Lee Smolin - How are Multiple Universes Generated?

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  • Cosmologists believe that multiple universes really exist; they call the whole vast collection, which might even be infinite in number, the 'multiverse'. But how are all these universes generated? There are several ways, each radically different from the others, each incredibly fascinating, each capable of generating infinite universes.
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    Lee Smolin is an American theoretical physicist, a researcher at the Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics, and an adjunct professor of physics at the University of Waterloo. He is best known for his work in loop quantum gravity.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 309

  • @Apoplectic_Spock
    @Apoplectic_Spock 2 роки тому +29

    I can appreciate this guest's purist approach to science and research. His fears seem valid and his preferences reasonable.

    • @David.C.Velasquez
      @David.C.Velasquez 2 роки тому +1

      Agreed, and I share his view for the most part, but to so staunchly adhere to the traditional hallmarks of classical science, he may seem a luddite to some future observer.

    • @alexojideagu
      @alexojideagu 2 роки тому +3

      Black Holes were complete speculation only real on paper, even Einstein didn't think they actually existed. Yet later we found they were real. Plus Quantum
      Mechanics points to these ideas such as multiple realities or dimensions. So boundaries have to be pushed. It's about not going crazy with speculation.

  • @datdudeinred
    @datdudeinred 2 роки тому +43

    I just love how physicist, scientists & astronomers literally argue with each other for all day long but won't get angry for 1 second. 🙌

    • @neffetSnnamremmiZ
      @neffetSnnamremmiZ 2 роки тому

      Because their questions and answers not real existential level!

    • @jeffreykalb9752
      @jeffreykalb9752 2 роки тому +3

      Because they have no conception of the consequences of their speculation. They are lightweights.

    • @davy-jonesdevil-fruit7606
      @davy-jonesdevil-fruit7606 2 роки тому +2

      That's bc you have made a crucial mistake and there is a major flaw in your "analysis" from the very very beginning. They are not "arguing" friend. They are doing what humans have HAD to do in order to reach the next stage of development. They are simply having an intellectual volley of spontaneous pontification. A "sparring match" in the arena of forward momentum.

    • @eduardosantana8300
      @eduardosantana8300 2 роки тому +2

      Your sample size is too small. Once you get to know more of them, you’ll see that, like all human beings, scientists do get angry with each other on their different ideas.

    • @ferdinandquiles1105
      @ferdinandquiles1105 2 роки тому

      Dadqdaae

  • @patrickl6932
    @patrickl6932 2 роки тому +10

    Kuhn is a national treasure. What an amazing interviewer. I just love this guy.

  • @leonreynolds77
    @leonreynolds77 2 роки тому +11

    This isn't a video about how multiverses are created. He is just basically saying he doesn't believe it.

  • @CristinaG
    @CristinaG 2 роки тому +15

    *HAPPY NEW YEAR..!!* I'm excited for the breakthroughs and discoveries coming in 2022..!!

    • @maxwellsimoes238
      @maxwellsimoes238 2 роки тому

      Happy New Year. Bizarre videos from close the true in 2022 vanish.

    • @TheRealSmileyE
      @TheRealSmileyE 2 роки тому

      They've known this for long time troll. Don't be capping

    • @Bassotronics
      @Bassotronics 2 роки тому

      Metallic Hydrogen

    • @Bassotronics
      @Bassotronics 2 роки тому +1

      @@maxwellsimoes238
      “Close the true”?
      What show is that?

  • @probablynotmyname8521
    @probablynotmyname8521 2 роки тому +8

    It really doesnt matter what a scientist thinks or believes or dreams about, all that matters is what they can show. Pontificating about multiple universes is not science unless you can show evidence that they exist.

  • @longcastle4863
    @longcastle4863 2 роки тому +26

    Totally from a layman's perspective this some of the newest most refreshing and interesting thinking I've come across in a long time on the current state of theoretical physics

    • @5thdimensionexplained376
      @5thdimensionexplained376 2 роки тому

      Evidence for the existence of 4D parallel reality ➡️ua-cam.com/video/w_LSA__VSVE/v-deo.html

    • @mahimagupta2476
      @mahimagupta2476 2 роки тому +1

      I am so glad I discovered this channel. Usually interviewers don't push people back on their guest's ideas (Sean Carroll does it really well in Mindscape), and definitely not with this well constructed a counter perspective. Really enjoying this stuff.

  • @audiodead7302
    @audiodead7302 2 роки тому +16

    A really interesting interview with a great thinker. I really like Lee's theory's about temporal realism and cosmological natural selection.

    • @5thdimensionexplained376
      @5thdimensionexplained376 2 роки тому

      Evidence for the existence of 4D parallel reality ➡️ua-cam.com/video/w_LSA__VSVE/v-deo.html

    • @thebxsavage
      @thebxsavage 2 роки тому +2

      I think his CNS theory makes ALOT of sense. I love it.

    • @bipolarbear9917
      @bipolarbear9917 2 роки тому

      I also find Lee's CNS hypothesis to be a extremely plausible, and like the way Lee is careful about separating science form philosophy. Even though CNS is right now in the realm of philosophy, we need to find experimental and observable ways to gather hard data. How we manage to find out what physics are going on in a black hole is anyone's guess. It may not be possible, but who really knows given enough time. CNS philosophically, has an elegance that is consistent with how all nature appears to be closed loop systems, so why not a self-creating level 2 multiverse where our universe happens to support sentient life.

    • @bipolarbear9917
      @bipolarbear9917 2 роки тому

      @@5thdimensionexplained376 Your video link is rubbish! Sorry!

  • @fletch88zz
    @fletch88zz 2 роки тому +5

    I have so much respect for Lee Smolin, always appreciate his insight

  • @gennas
    @gennas 2 роки тому +2

    Lee gets me all worked up it’s 9 AM in LA and happy new year

  • @akumar7366
    @akumar7366 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for this Vlog a great way to end the year , stimulating thought , I lookforward to 2022 , to watch , listen and learn .

    • @5thdimensionexplained376
      @5thdimensionexplained376 2 роки тому

      Evidence for the existence of 4D parallel reality ➡️ua-cam.com/video/w_LSA__VSVE/v-deo.html

  • @Kaydin66
    @Kaydin66 2 роки тому +2

    this is guy is describing something that goes beyond just physics. this goes into human psychology and how we hold models of the world that dictate how we act.
    for years I believed in multiverse new age nonsense and my psyche used it to avoid facing reality and some early trauma. we don't even know if the filaments go on forever.
    just because some mathematics can support something doesn't mean we should move in that direction. it could waste decades or even centuries of progress.
    edit: I've watched a lot of this channel and this is clip is pretty interesting. Robert seems to uncharacteristically push back. It's subtle throughout the discussion but it's noticeable and speaks to the very topic itself. (the point that Lee makes at the end about how weird Newton was is fantastic, and I'm sure that thought riles a lot of 'scientific minds' of today)

  • @bruinflight1
    @bruinflight1 2 роки тому +14

    The problem with so much current day (physics) is exactly what Dr. Smolin is talking about here, and, observing the deep dichotomy between religion and science it blows my mind that theorists on the leading edge are so sanctimonious about their ideas... Thank you for fighting this fight Lee!

    • @evanjameson5437
      @evanjameson5437 2 роки тому

      indeed! Lee is keeping everyone grounded

    • @alexojideagu
      @alexojideagu 2 роки тому

      Black Holes were complete speculation only real on paper, even Einstein didn't think they actually existed. Yet later we found they were real. It's about a balance
      of speculation, imagination and observation and experiments.

    • @MikeMontgomery1
      @MikeMontgomery1 2 роки тому +1

      I don't see how there needs to be a fight. I just see this as theory vs applied science. They coexist just fine, but when they get together and discuss science, the conversation goes like what we see in this video.

    • @bruinflight1
      @bruinflight1 2 роки тому

      @@MikeMontgomery1 there is always a fight, that's the human condition: egos and cults of personality. I see it everywhere in science and medicine and the objection Dr. Smolin mounts here is a good one which calls those egos and cults to question.

  • @jasonsmith6508
    @jasonsmith6508 2 роки тому +3

    First time I’ve seen Robert Lawrence Kuhn out of his depth actually and his stance seems to challenge what I have come to understand to be his position in a number of areas which surprised me.

  • @jareknowak8712
    @jareknowak8712 2 роки тому +2

    HAPPY 2022 FOR ALL OF YOU!!

  • @hamzariazuddin424
    @hamzariazuddin424 2 роки тому +1

    Lee is such an interesting thinker...Love listening to his realist speculations

  • @RichardLucas
    @RichardLucas 2 роки тому +1

    When I found Smolin's positions on quantum weirdness, among other things, the resonance was instant. He is a theoretician who has validated my own prejudice for avoiding abstraction sickness.

  • @shiddy.
    @shiddy. 8 місяців тому

    very good conversation here

  • @captainvonkleist8323
    @captainvonkleist8323 2 роки тому +1

    Honestly, I think the biggest problem with the idea of "multiple universes" is contained within the language itself.
    "Universe" comes from uni- (single) -verse (song), and "single song" means, as far as I'm concerned, a single description of reality.
    Can one have "multiple single descriptions of reality"?
    No. It's an oxymoron.
    I think if physicists were to use the phrase "multiple spacetimes" instead of "multiple universes" I would be more convinced. I'm really not sure what they think a universe is if there can be more than one of them.
    Personally, when I hear the phrase "multiple universes", or something similar, I do a mental substitution with the phrase "multiple spacetimes", and I find the conversation makes much more sense.
    I just don't think it makes any sense to define "universe" as meaning anything other than a single description of reality. Historically, the word "universe" is used like a vague natural language placeholder for a Theory Of Everything.
    Once upon a time we thought the universe and the galaxy were the same thing. When we discovered another galaxy, we didn't call it another universe. We invented other terminology, and the meaning of universe was retained. This is the pattern.
    I think the same thing about the word "multiverse", which doesn't mesh well with my understanding of the word "universe". Again, I think the phrase "multiple spacetimes" works better than "multiverse".
    "Multiverse" sounds fun, I guess, but is probably a fad, and I would expect "universe" to be the more durable terminology.
    It may be the case that "universe" is inherently imprecise, non empirical terminology, because how could one empirically validate some description of the universe as complete? But, then, it would be this imprecision and non empiricism that is the utility of the term.

  • @MrSanford65
    @MrSanford65 2 роки тому

    Maybe a question should be asked, why is space transparent in between things, which only highlights certain things and not others. I think existing at the same level as the things you see in the telescopes will give you a whole different perspective on the universe , And on physical laws

  • @ktor538
    @ktor538 2 роки тому +2

    Thought provoking 👍

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 3 місяці тому

    is there a way to use quantum mechanics to observe and test beyond observable universe?

  • @tonycamaro1677
    @tonycamaro1677 2 роки тому

    Great videos. Better when you let the guest talk more.

  • @Leoneldolara
    @Leoneldolara 2 роки тому +1

    Yes, I tend to agree with him, I think we are in trouble when we create answers (even hypothetical ones) that we need to be able to close a theory or a formula. The numbers are so precise to allow life in this planet, that we need other universes to be the other shades or scale of numbers where this one sits in. No, I'd rather wait to see what observation can bring and in the time being just acknowledge that we don't know.

  • @ministerofjoy
    @ministerofjoy 2 роки тому

    Thank you!

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 2 роки тому

    Would help to develop a way to do experiments using time for testing hypothesis of what might be beyond universe

  • @pianoman16
    @pianoman16 2 роки тому

    Is Jacob Barnett still working on quantum gravity at Perimeter? Is he making any progress?

  • @dorfmanjones
    @dorfmanjones 7 місяців тому

    It's interesting that each made the pretty much the same point and counterpoint at least three times.

  • @jc03571
    @jc03571 2 роки тому

    What a wonderful mind. Flexible and precise at the same time.

  • @markomakela2360
    @markomakela2360 2 роки тому +1

    Hi Leo. I have enjoyed your journey with quite remarkable scientists and especially with those controversial topics. And as you have searched answers from all sides, I'm a bit astonished how weak and almost useless explanations or none, philosophers had to contribute to what you were asking. Sometimes it seems that even computer programmers or even game developers( sometimes of course almost the same ) are further in this matter and more open minded. Without an creative mind and challenging, it's hard to see a true progress in some of the biggest issues and questions. And for example, as the 'simulation theory' pushes all this maybe even further, it may have a point. Everything in this world can be measured and calculated... But so it is in a computer and it also will be every time repeatable. Never ever has anyone in history among the most profound scientist been approved for the first time or sometimes, not even during their life time, and this brings us closer to the truth: People want to believe they are right in all respects and all the time and they don't like changes. It's really hard to make a neutral and objective science without the human factor interfering all the studies. Sometimes the motive for having an answer that is convenient, may surpass the truth. And that goes with the everyday life too.

  • @poksnee
    @poksnee 2 роки тому +15

    String theory and multiverse theory are examples of physics being dominated by math.
    I have, long been, a big fan of Dr.Smolin.

    • @maxwellsimoes238
      @maxwellsimoes238 2 роки тому

      Strong theory is by product Science because it is unfudamental phisch Hipotesy. Phisch hipotesy like string keep out consistence phisch theory is , so fallacies.

    • @thomasridley8675
      @thomasridley8675 2 роки тому +1

      Give me a break. How else can we use physics without an accepted definition of it's effects quantified by equations that create repeatable results ?

    • @poksnee
      @poksnee 2 роки тому +1

      @@thomasridley8675
      You missed the point. Modern physics is driven by math...math should be a tool for physics.
      Physics is not applied mathematics. It is a natural science in which mathematics is applied.- Robert Heinlein

    • @thomasridley8675
      @thomasridley8675 2 роки тому +1

      @@poksnee
      And the problem is ?
      It seems to be working just fine so far.

    • @ivanniyeha4229
      @ivanniyeha4229 2 роки тому

      @@thomasridley8675 scientists should turn physics into mathematics and not vice versa, GR and string theory is an example of turning mathematics into physics

  • @chyfields
    @chyfields 2 роки тому

    In a sophisticated simulation it should be relatively simple to create and entangle many different simulated Universes and dimensions. When these separate simulations are connected seamlessly together the players can gain exposure to as many different experiences as can be created and supported.

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 2 роки тому

    Could other universes have started completely separate from this universe? An inflation field outside this universe, perhaps infinite in extent, generates many universes through energy fluctuations in that inflation field, similar to density fluctuations in microwave background generate many galaxies in this universe?

  • @captainvonkleist8323
    @captainvonkleist8323 2 роки тому

    While it's true that in the past we always found a way to observe smaller/larger scales, I think this time it may be different...
    On the smallest scale I think it's easiest to make the case. Previously we never had a testable theory on a fundamental small scale limit for the universe. The 20th century, however, produced such a theory: Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle.
    This principle has been thoroughly tested since, and there are no known violations.
    So, I think it makes sense in this case to consider that Heisenberg accurately described the limits of physical empiricism on the smallest scale.
    The confirmation of Hawking radiation would support this view, in my opinion, as the existence of this radiation seems to imply that uncertainty will persist even if spacetime breaks down.
    My personal view is that uncertainty produces spacetime, rather than the conventional view that uncertainty exists within spacetime. This would provide a mechanism for spacetime production, which is what you'd hope to find in a theory of the small scale limit of the universe.
    Observing the conflict between spacetime and uncertainty is the place to look for clues, in my opinion, and black hole observations are the next frontier in this arena.
    Can't wait for JWST this summer!

  • @agroforestryconsultancyroz3157
    @agroforestryconsultancyroz3157 2 роки тому

    Speculations are okay, like with a sodoku puzzle; a field can be two numbers, but other fields can be many numbers, then you should not speculate.
    In science I think we should also speculate like that for research proposals

  • @abhir7823
    @abhir7823 2 роки тому +1

    This is an actual physicist
    Not media hyped celebrities like Tegmark Kaku or Tyson who talk anything to sound cool and stay in limelight

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 2 роки тому

    Can it be said that mathematics is beyond the space-time of this universe? In which case might mathematics be used to demonstrate what is beyond universe?

  • @r2c3
    @r2c3 2 роки тому

    Happy New Year everyone !!! Enogh was discovered in 2021, let's leave some mysteries for 2022 🍾✌

  • @supmojo
    @supmojo 2 роки тому

    I think the multiverse is like different frames on a common movie strip. Different frames (universes) but slightly different time separating each frame by Planck time.

  • @mickeybrumfield764
    @mickeybrumfield764 2 роки тому +1

    We humans are part of what is real and can be confirmed by experimentation and something that is confirmable is that we humans always always far underestimate the size and scope of the reality we find ourselves in. It would seem to make some sense to calculate this into our development theories and thoughts.

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 2 роки тому

    Could try to figure out what of any cosmos may exist outside universe, not just multiple universes, which might be more detectable than another universe

    • @projectmalus
      @projectmalus 2 роки тому

      Shape the Hawking radiation from a black hole into a lens to see beyond, thru the hole if necessary!

  • @catherinemoore9534
    @catherinemoore9534 2 роки тому +4

    This scientist is so fascinating: he's humble, while being one of the top brains of science. Wow.

    • @dare-er7sw
      @dare-er7sw 2 роки тому

      Alan Guth is more brain than him.

  • @MegaLynn11
    @MegaLynn11 2 роки тому

    i think both right. and im sorry again. thx for the talks!

  • @raspberrypi4970
    @raspberrypi4970 2 роки тому

    No.. Me Lee
    A good scientist has freed himself of concepts
    and keeps his mind open to what is.
    The ultimate creative capacity of the human brain may be for all practical purposes~ Infinity.
    You Me. Lee, have hit a brick wall.
    To get the things we want from life- is a matter of solving the problems which stand between where we now are - and the point we wish to reach.
    You Mr. Lee, doesn't know at which point you stand on the subject.
    Very vague and uncertainty in Mr. Lee's answers. Almost going around the bush/ indirect answers.
    I said good day sir

  • @Graybeard_
    @Graybeard_ 2 роки тому +1

    "respect for the tradition" going forward = archaic, soon to be limited in scope. Matter-based physics will continue to help us understand our reality in terms of our every day needs, how things work around "here". It's like studying the blueprints of a building will help you to navigate the building, but those blueprints are limited to that building and not much help in finding your way around the city. We are nearing the limits of physics/matter-based reality research in furthering our understanding of what lies beyond what we can see. Mr. Smolin's worry is understandable. We are approaching a fork in the road where one road comes to an end. To continue on the other road, we must look inward and learn to explore through consciousness.

    • @mikeys7536
      @mikeys7536 2 роки тому

      I was just having a similar thought. It’s like being locked in a jail cell with a small window and pondering the architecture of the whole city.

    • @kos-mos1127
      @kos-mos1127 2 роки тому

      Exploring through consciousness is not anything new people have been exploring through consciousness since the Ancient Greeks which resulted in tons of errors. At the time the common belief was women were mutilated men. Biology demonstrates that women are the base form of humans. Not enough testosterone during the development in the womb the fetus defaults to female. It was also believed that women determined the sex and the men determined the being. Once again when science tested the belief the found it to be that women determined the being of the species and men determines the sex. I can list even more examples on how consciousness leads to nowhere.

    • @Sharperthanu1
      @Sharperthanu1 2 роки тому

      Yes,and the matter only exists if you LOOK at it.

    • @Graybeard_
      @Graybeard_ 2 роки тому

      @@kos-mos1127 Using your argument, science has equally led us down paths that weren't just wrong, they caused lots of death. Religion is as guilty of this too. Science created DDT, lobotomies, Eugenics, the atom bomb. So if I make a long list of science mistakes that led to harm, your conclusion is science is going nowhere? Odd. I'm not following your argument here.
      My comment did not state that consciousness is new. I said physics research has gone about as far as it can (big picture). To go farther we will have to explore consciousness. Your comment is a real head-scratcher. Anyway Happy New Year.

    • @kos-mos1127
      @kos-mos1127 2 роки тому

      @@Sharperthanu1 Matter exist regardless if anyone is looking at it. Stop listening to the Deep Copra nonsense.

  • @pwatsky
    @pwatsky 2 роки тому +1

    I really wish the titles reflected the discussion as opposed to a philosophical diversion away from the title.

  • @jamespercy8506
    @jamespercy8506 2 роки тому

    Is the problem one of going beyond the imaginal into the pure imaginary, bypassing the adjacent possible altogether?

  • @omnigeddon
    @omnigeddon 2 роки тому +1

    In a world of constant casual coincidence the only thing teachable has to also be scalable inorder to be valid...

  • @hamburgerlord9552
    @hamburgerlord9552 2 роки тому +1

    🔥

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 3 місяці тому

    start of universe the reason for speculations about vacuum energy, inflation, quantum gravity and God?

  • @TheAnubhavSharma
    @TheAnubhavSharma 2 роки тому

    robetr, ‘closer to truth’ might just reflect humbleness/possibilities but it also means ‘false’ / not truth, you’ll start there.

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 3 місяці тому

    can hypothesize from current knowledge until scientific observations made?

  • @KipIngram
    @KipIngram Рік тому

    3:47 - But see, it's not that these multiverse folks are saying "There's probably a lot more and our same rules would apply." They aren't positing multiverse as a possibiity - they're making it a REQUIREMENT. It HAS to be there if it's what we rely on, for example, to solve the fine tuning problem. They aren't just bring the possibility of more "along for the ride" - they're using that "more" to *prop up* their own philosophy. That is an altogether different situation. If you have a theory in which multiverse is OPTIONAL, that's fine - speculate away. But the minute you RELY on it, without proof, you're not doing science any more.

  • @jffryh
    @jffryh 2 роки тому +5

    Did Newton really not know during his own lifetime which bits of his work he was most most well known for

    • @stephenmuth7081
      @stephenmuth7081 2 роки тому +10

      He probably did not. He seemed to be a self-aggrandizing egotistical weirdo who thought everything popping into his head was inspired truth from the heavens. He was hubris, defined. In retrospect, though, minus the alchemy & mysticism, numerology, angels pushing on the planets in subtle ways to maintain the stability of the solar system... he got us to the moon and back. No mean feat.

  • @jeffmckinnon5842
    @jeffmckinnon5842 2 роки тому

    It is hard to grasp the thought of no beginning to time, but it is harder still to believe time had a beginning. Our big bang theory requires we believe in miracles. Without "time" already in place, nothing could happen. Cause and affect require time to exist in, before either can happen. If life had no beginning, I am again, not asked to believe in miracles.
    We don't have to believe in any miracles at all, until science tries to justify their conclusions.
    We are smart!
    We know stuff!

  • @No2AI
    @No2AI 2 роки тому

    Perhaps our universe is a layer within multiple layers connected to another and that other to another etc - as the metaverse is embedded in this universe. A dream within a dream. We will need to dig ourselves out of this one and the next etc until we find the base reality.

  • @khufu8699
    @khufu8699 Рік тому

    The other issue is multiple universes would require a universe generating machine, which would itself require prior fine tuning. So there is a lot of logical issues here.

  • @evaadam3635
    @evaadam3635 2 роки тому +2

    How Are Multiple Universes Generated ?
    Here is the fact :
    Every Conscious Person has its own unique Universe from birth to death of life's experiences ... and because we have billions of individual consciousness on this planet, therefore we have billions of unique Universes.
    Here is the theory :
    Every Consciousness of unique Universe, from birth to death of life's experience, could have been saved somewhere unknown, similar to storing info in a disk or drive, and could be accessed and experienced again by any "individual immortal Consciousness" that I believe is an aware immortal soul....
    If this is true, can you imagine the infinite number of saved "Conscious life experiences or Universes" that can be accessed and experienced again and again and again... amazing, isn't it ? What you are consciously experiencing now could be just a saved conscious life experience that your aware immortal soul was allowed to access and relive again...

    • @maxwellsimoes238
      @maxwellsimoes238 2 роки тому

      Bobastic. Universo is mysterious. Consciencess not picture itself as Universe Works apart.

    • @leonreynolds77
      @leonreynolds77 2 роки тому

      This is brilliant thinking. 💛

  • @TenzinLundrup
    @TenzinLundrup 2 роки тому

    There was a time when inflationary cosmology (IC) was the only game in town. I don't think it is anymore. My understanding is that there are so many IC models that there is one that will predict whatever the CMB surveys of the future will measure. No B modes, OK there is an IC model for that. B modes, OK we can do that. In other words, the claim is that IC is not falsifiable. Anyhow, we can argue all we want. Hopefully at some point some theory will confirmed by observation.

  • @qake2021
    @qake2021 2 роки тому +1

    🎊👍happy new year👌🎊
    🎉👏👏👏👏👏👏👏✌🏻🎉

  • @joebradner572
    @joebradner572 2 роки тому

    I would start the conversation by saying,' We don't live in an expanding universe. We live in a time space continuum that is expanding INTO THE UNIVERSE.'

  • @brandonvinson5255
    @brandonvinson5255 2 роки тому +4

    Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence... (Carl Sagan)

    • @maxwellsimoes238
      @maxwellsimoes238 2 роки тому

      Rambling bobastic.

    • @maxwellsimoes238
      @maxwellsimoes238 2 роки тому

      Bobastic. If is absence evidence Not show up any evidencie at all.

    • @birdman7135
      @birdman7135 2 роки тому +1

      @@maxwellsimoes238 *Rambling:* (of writing or speech) lengthy and confused or inconsequential. *BoMbastic:* high-sounding but with little meaning; inflated.
      ... You blew it with both words! lol.

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 3 місяці тому

    use quantum and other possible theories to speculate about universe, cosmos and beyond?

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 2 роки тому

    Would detection of inflation demonstrate a multiverse, at least something beyond this universe?

  • @Theninjagecko
    @Theninjagecko 2 роки тому +2

    Math and all the tricks to get the math working has taken us down the wrong path.

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 2 роки тому

    Is there to test if quantum fields develop from inflation?

  • @sonarbangla8711
    @sonarbangla8711 2 роки тому

    The whole universe along with all the multiverse are the unitary evolution of a single wave function, whether you can see or not.

  • @TheTroofSayer
    @TheTroofSayer 2 роки тому +4

    I'm wholly with Lee Smolin on this. Multiverse theory is cringe and it is indeed, the materialist's creationism. What does it offer? If multiverse theory is intended to explain the ordered universe and the emergence of life within it, despite entropy, then it's already failed. We, in the universe we inhabit, still have an entropy problem.

    • @alexojideagu
      @alexojideagu 2 роки тому +1

      It's not Cringe, there are real reasons it's a serious hypothesis. The fact nothing in nature has ever only happened once, literally only the Big Bang. So If a Big Bang can happen once, it almost certainly will happen again. Quantum Mechanics literally points to there not being one fixed reality at the quantum level, making parallel universes are a very real possibility. Another possibility is one universe that is infinite, with different physics
      beyond our observable universe. Which is a kind of multiverse.

    • @alexojideagu
      @alexojideagu 2 роки тому +1

      I would say it's cringe to believe there has only ever been one big bang in any reality, and that existence of anything had an arbitrary beginning 13.8 Billion years ago, and nothing occurred in any reality parallel or before. It's far more likely that "Nothing" is unstable in any reality, and "something" has been going on in some reality infinitely.

  • @KaliFissure
    @KaliFissure 2 роки тому

    Time is a compact dimension one single Planck second in size. The original singularity caused by collapse of AdS space from energy input. We are one one side of this temporal hyperplane and antimatter is on the other. This is why baryon asymmetry. An inflow here is an outflow from there. Clockwise away here is counterclockwise towards there.
    Inflow/divergence=negative charge. Outflow/convergence=positive charge. This is why the fundamental mass particle has positive charge. Gravity is also convergence. This is also why electron half spin. One expressed orbit on this side and an internalized orbit on other side as positron. Why photon has no anti particle. It exists on both sides simultaneously.
    Neutron decay cosmology. The neutrons which invert at moment of neutron star collapse into black hole are transported from highest energy density conditions to lowest energy density points of space, deep voids, where they travel 14ish light minutes then decay into amorphous atomic hydrogen. Conservation. This decay process includes a volume increase of 10^14 times. Expansion. The amorphous atomic hydrogen doesn’t have stable orbital electron so can’t emit or absorb photons. Dark matter. In time they will stabilize and follow usual evolution path from gas to nebula to proto star to star until in distant future it is again at the edge of event horizon.
    Event horizons act as thermodynamic pressure release valves venting energy pressure from highest pressure to lowest pressure locations. I have sketch of the topology.
    Mass units as found in proton and neutron are the “nullified” charge components of quark construction only they don’t cancel out, they become 2pi Planck length wavelength photons trapped over their own Schwartzchild radius. Check the math. I dare you.
    There is a classical ish solution to QM behavior. Standard model was for 20th century. Let’s move forward.
    Happy New Year! :)

  • @jamesdevine620
    @jamesdevine620 2 роки тому +1

    at least he admits it's all speculation.........and yet he shows great faith in his beliefs....

  • @omarbriones2453
    @omarbriones2453 2 роки тому

    In my opinion, there are things, such as E=mc2, that have been proven, and then there's everything else.

  • @yogafrogz
    @yogafrogz 2 роки тому

    These guys talked and talked but never answered the question. Check Veritasium's interview with physicist Sean Carroll. Sean Caroll said the universe branches every time a quantum system in superposition becomes entangled with its environment. Every person has some level of radioactivity in their bodies. Each radioactive cell is in a state of superposition before decaying. Upon decaying, the cell interacts with the environment and becomes entangled, collapsing the wave function, and branching the universe. Radioactive cells decay at 5000 times a second, that means a new universe is generated 5000 times a second for each person. A really great sci-fi book called "The Gone World" by Tom Sweterlitsch makes great use of this idea, about a female detective who investigates a murder by running simulations to arrive at clues, except the simulations aren't in a computer but are actual alternate universes she travels to by collapsing her own wave function.

    • @rajeevgangal542
      @rajeevgangal542 2 роки тому +1

      Sean Carroll is a wonderful presenter and scientist. But his ideas of a multiverse, branching etc are just too much out there. If quantum mechanics weren't interpreted in terms of many worlds, we wouldn't even be contemplating his ideas. I am an avid follower of his channel. But whereas I don't always agree with a pragmatist like Sabine, I think Lee has great balance in his judgement and physicists and cosmologists would be wise to pay heed.

    • @weshard1
      @weshard1 2 роки тому

      I admire Smolin’s humility, and not claiming to be certain on what he knows is truth, or to know more than he does. A standard I attempt to live by, and knowingly fail, at times.
      I also like Sean Carroll, but his many-worlds interpretation leaves more to explain, than it elucidates.

  • @micronda
    @micronda 2 роки тому +2

    There cannot be multiple universes totally isolated from each other, any more than we can create a computer program totally isolated from another one. After all, both programs exist within the universe and are affected by it. The universe is everything that exists anywhere. There is only 'The Universe'.

    • @topguntk870
      @topguntk870 2 роки тому

      I like how you think you know everything but you know just as much as we do THERE could be other universes with different laws of physics. They would not be apart of or no way connected to our universe. Do you think physicists and scientists are dumb call them other universes in the multiverse? You think you are smarter then them? What a joke.

    • @micronda
      @micronda 2 роки тому

      @@topguntk870 Sorry but if there are other universes with different laws of physics then one of them will have NO laws of physics. I have a problem with that.

    • @topguntk870
      @topguntk870 2 роки тому

      @@micronda Sorry bra, but reality doesn't care if you have a problem with it. It could be there are universes that don't operate on physics or math and have alien logic, and concepts we never imagined. Why do you have a problem with a universe with no laws of physics, I'm genuinely curious.

    • @micronda
      @micronda 2 роки тому

      @@topguntk870 There would be nothing in it, which wouldn't shrink up it's own bottom.

  • @henk3202
    @henk3202 2 роки тому

    With the coming metaverse we will be at least living in two different universes

  • @smilyle
    @smilyle 2 роки тому +3

    I'm glad there is a physicists that admits this

  • @johnirby4791
    @johnirby4791 2 роки тому

    I will answer with a question...how does your heart pump multiple times or your brain cells spark? By reactionary forces

  • @weshard1
    @weshard1 2 роки тому

    I reckon Lee is missing a trick in not being a model for Lake District rambling apparel. Every time I see him he’s in a fleeced top.

  • @ericac9634
    @ericac9634 2 роки тому

    Consider the source: If a creative thinker like Smolin is telling us to reign it in and look to experimentation as our guide, ie, to stick to science within the realm of science, lol, that would seem to hold a lot of (metaphorical) weight.

  • @regrichard4533
    @regrichard4533 2 роки тому

    Am I missing something in this interview that others are seeing. Seems to me Robert had to shut him down more than once. Comparing Science to Corporate finance? Yeah there's a symbol of purity if there ever was one.

  • @KP_Oz
    @KP_Oz 2 роки тому

    "There were surprises" and subsequent discoveries in observational physics doesn't necessarily lead to a multiverse surely? Extraordinarily claims need extraordinary evidence. Need more context as to what problems Mr. Smolin is trying to solve. There's nothing wrong with a competing idea as long as it is not mutually exclusive.

  • @kevinkline7242
    @kevinkline7242 2 роки тому

    Somewhere right now someone is watching a video on the top 10 universes.

  • @matishakabdullah5874
    @matishakabdullah5874 2 роки тому

    Dr L Kuhn; 8:43 " ...we are being pushing boundary that we have never been pushing before..."
    Well...we don't even know where is boundary of the one universe that we claim to know...so how can one knows there is thing outside our boundary...look likes of physical impossibility of the mathematical singularity at 1/0 !
    What is the point of pushing beyond our capacity and capability... if not wasting our energy or plain foolishness?
    This the real problem today... when philosophy and secular science unable to take the world out of "ILLUSION"!

  • @jameswood9556
    @jameswood9556 2 роки тому

    IT IS POSSI
    {One half of every galaxy is made up of matter as we know it, while the other half is made up of anti-matter. The black hole that we are observing at the center of all galaxies is what a Gravity Reaction looks like. Einstein said, the mass of an object increases in direct proportion to its speed so as a Galaxy's speed increases so does its mass. As mass increases so does Gravity. So because the Galaxy is being powered by Gravity there is no reason why it should ever stop accelerating, and because the galaxies were all created at different times our Universe appears to be expanding. If you could put a tiny Galaxy in a magnetic bottle to power a spaceship you'd have to wonder were there little worlds and tiny beings evolving in there, and if there were what happened to them when (WARP DRIVE?) was engaged.}
    speed is the curtain that hides dimensions from us. Like looking in a barber shop mirror; Universes stretching out to infinity, but Not seen by us because they are going more than one light speed faster or slower than we
    You see at the center of the galaxy is the visual sign of a Gravity Reaction.
    THERE WAS NO BIG BANG AND THE UNIVERSE IS NOT EXPANDING. IT’S ACCELLERATING.
    Here’s an idea that could be the solution. It’s been rattling around in my head since the mid-sixties. .
    The universe was not created all at once. Each galaxy was created by itself and in its own time. There is a built in power source in each galaxy that makes it move through space. They are all continually accelerating at a certain rate of speed like in The Law of falling objects, except because the force powering it is a Gravity Reaction there is no limit to the speed they can attain. The Universe is Steady State. Galaxies are being created all the time. The universe is Accelerating.
    No matter where or when galaxies were formed in space and time the end result would be a sky with stars that looked and acted a lot ours; One where the galaxies could be observed and thought to be expanding, when they are really doing is accelerating.`` galaxies It appears that a galaxy is two discs of stars that for some reason are separated from each other by a black rift. I can’t think of any reason for this to be unless the galaxy’s two sides are different from one another..
    Perhaps one half of a galaxy is made up of matter as we know it, while the other half is made up of anti-matter. The black hole that we are observing at the center of each galaxy is what the Gravity Reaction that is powering the galaxy through space looks like. If as Einstein said, the mass of an object increases in direct proportion to its speed, there is no reason why it should ever stop accelerating. There’s the ratio we see in Isaac Newton’s Law of falling Objects again, and it takes place because no two galaxies were created at the exact same moment in time.
    Of course I have no idea how fast our galaxy is traveling, 1, 2, 100 light speeds BUT because we cannot see beyond the speed of light universes could be piled up like dinner plates and we wouldn’t know it.

  • @jonathanjollimore4794
    @jonathanjollimore4794 2 роки тому

    Best way to think about it is multilayered Russian nesting doll that nests multiply dolls that never ends

  • @toddfrench2822
    @toddfrench2822 2 роки тому

    Just because you can dream up the concept of multiple parallel universes does not mean that the concept makes sense or that there is any evidence of this.

  • @hershchat
    @hershchat 2 роки тому

    🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @riteshpanditi3635
    @riteshpanditi3635 2 роки тому

    Am I the only who one who feels like he looks and talks very similarly to Andrew Ng ?

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski8602 2 роки тому

    Maybe multiverse is a form of design?

  • @oreliocapazario826
    @oreliocapazario826 Рік тому

    We are already in doubt about the big bag…. By observation with the James Web ………

  • @Paraselene_Tao
    @Paraselene_Tao 2 роки тому +1

    Even at 2x speed, this video offers me very little I haven't read or heard before. Thanks for the video though.
    I've read a lot of sci-fi, I've read and listened to a lot of philosophy, and I'm a stem major. There's not much that surprises me anymore.
    I'll look into to who these two gentlemen are, and I'll integrate them in my framework. Thanks.

    • @davidmccue3591
      @davidmccue3591 2 роки тому +2

      Please let us know how that works for you.

    • @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC
      @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC 2 роки тому

      *"I've read a lot of sci-fi, I've read and listened to a lot of philosophy, and I'm a stem major. There's not much that surprises me anymore."*
      ... Then read my book titled *"0"* highlighted on my channel's "about" page. I guarantee you've never read this explanation for _Existence_ before. Amazon KDP refuses to publish it and UA-cam took down my book trailer video, but try as they may, nothing will stop this book from going mainstream.
      The original book trailer video is listed on my website. I can't post a website link because CTT's filters will censor it. Yes, it seems our species has chosen to limit our own access to information.

    • @Paraselene_Tao
      @Paraselene_Tao 2 роки тому

      @@0-by-1_Publishing_LLC Do you have a sample of 0? Also, when did you publish 0?

    • @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC
      @0-by-1_Publishing_LLC 2 роки тому

      @@Paraselene_Tao Don't have a sample, and it was published April, 2021.

  • @jasonsmith6508
    @jasonsmith6508 2 роки тому +3

    Brilliant that Smolin has this view and well done to him. I’ve been losing my respect for scientists for years now due to them increasingly relaxing the rigour of scientific testing and verification. These days scientists just imagine their way out of a problem. He makes many great points here.

    • @airbup
      @airbup 2 роки тому

      99% of science is not theoretical physics. Theoretical physics is just at the boundary of experimentation. They should/need have more liberty in their theories

    • @frankyb702
      @frankyb702 2 роки тому

      Science used to mean you were born a male or female. How quickly things changed

  • @HigherPlanes
    @HigherPlanes 2 роки тому

    the idea that anything beyond observation and testing is automatically discounted is silly thinking.

  • @robertoaguirrematurana6419
    @robertoaguirrematurana6419 Рік тому

    Am I the only one annoyed by Smolin constantly dodging the interviewer's questions about unfalsifiable claims?

  • @jeremycrofutt7322
    @jeremycrofutt7322 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you dear heavenly Father for your diversity, showing it universally, through the persons you see, giving it appropriately, always coming dynamically with the prosperity, the most astounding and outstanding you see. Generating multiple ways to see. How can you say he doesn't be? Or has given the discovery to psychology? Or say he hasn't given the way to philosophy? Cuz he knows and gives prophecies that get fulfilled at the time he sees, which is his word given dispensionally. His word comes very personally. He defines like the dictionary even gives the picture to pictionary, thank you God for being my visionary, I will sing your word like a canary and preach it like a missionary. In Jesus name I pray, amen. Hallelujah!🎤💧

  • @ripleyfilms8561
    @ripleyfilms8561 7 місяців тому

    izitopic beats by ripley films at voloco who found xon zar gar as top god

  • @farajashango1267
    @farajashango1267 2 роки тому

    So true what works is always boring

  • @Numberofthings
    @Numberofthings 2 роки тому +3

    A multi universe doesn’t need any shape, or size. It’s a fractal, and a fractal is just information.

    • @JB_inks
      @JB_inks 2 роки тому +1

      That's nonsense

  • @weirdsciencetv4999
    @weirdsciencetv4999 2 роки тому

    Once we hit the singularity, intelligence will explode. It won’t conquer the universe. It will realize how much this one sucks, make a new one with less inherent suffering and then transfer itself over. This is probably why we don’t encounter aliens.

  • @markpease2177
    @markpease2177 2 роки тому

    Sounds alot like "faith" to me..🤔......message!

  • @Bill..N
    @Bill..N 2 роки тому

    It is surprising for me to hear Lee's opinions on this matter..It's as if he is not appreciating Roberts very legitimate point here.. We could be nearing an age of PURE THEORETICAL physics, necessarily divorced from meaningful associations to the scientific method..Yes there may always be surprises with what we CAN observe, but that's a different topic..Much of QFT is NOT observationally verifiable and yet a majority of physicists consider it our best theory of reality . Peace, always enjoyable interviews..