BYU's New Office of Belonging
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- BYU's New Office of Belonging
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Unlike most other universities that have put into place a "Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion" office, the Office of Belonging at BYU seems to want to be different. Time will tell.
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Instead BYU needs an office of "faith, hope, charity and love. With an eye single to the glory of God."
We dont need an "office" we already have The Holy Temple.
@@rconger384 And yet, with that temple on campus, BYU is failing - miserably, in regards to spirituality in certain departments. Clearly, a spiritual building is insufficient to lead a worldly institution to fulfill its spiritual roles.
BYU needs an office of edemas to get rid of all the SJWs... Guess who was on this committee.... SJWs... Fire all of them.
@@rconger384 You have more temples per capita of membership than any where else in the world... obviously that's not the answer.
They can start with the name change of BYU.
The Holy Temple is our "office of belonging." We are empowered there. That is OUR way.
Thank you for staying up to date on the latest news, and providing informative, hopeful news. After seeing so much negative press towards Elder Holland, I'm so happy to watch real, truthful, intelligent insights on current events within the church. So glad we have individuals like yourself that seek truth and honor our precious church leadership. Such great, dedicated men. Thank you for being an scholar while humbly honoring and sustaining our Church Leadership.
I really appreciate your viewpoints! Thank you! My concern is that a university is an academic institution. I don't send my sons to the BYU educational system for their social and emotional learning. I feel this is to be done in the home where we are taught how to include others or handle those times when we all have felt excluded. This is further to be taught through the gospel of Jesus Christ. I am concerned we are not developing emotionally resilient young adults. BYU University system is a place for academic learning and for preparing students to obtain knowledge, critically think and to achieve career goals. The office of belonging is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints! Thank you.
As I perused Twitter, Instagram, UA-cam and media articles today, I was more shocked than I can ever remember being. The mists of darkness are swirling and blinding. Members need to hold fast to the iron rod and it helps to have voices of reason penetrating that darkness. First and foremost, the Lord's anointed prophets, but it nice to have other strong examples. Thank you.
We are living in a world where it is acceptable to call for the extermination of the unvaccinated and politicians openly saying they are a risk to society so they better not thing they’re gonna get on trains and planes with the rest of the clean people that stepped up. And most of the people calling for equity and inclusion are totally for this attitude towards the unvaccinated. Honestly thise who claim to be the most tolerant are the least tolerant at all. I never felt discriminated against for my skin colour or country of birth but I have already experienced discrimination based on my health status. The world has gone absolutely crazy
@@PunsandPixels I'm so sorry you are experiencing such judgment. I wonder how people are allowing themselves to be so polarized about this that they can't see the danger of our country being torn even more in half. It's fine for people to have differently strongly held opinions but the rudeness and outrage being spewed out is shocking. Here we are trying to abolish any taint of second-class citizens but this is creating that very thing. We have kids on both sides of this issue but we have agreed to respect each other's rights to differ and not let it tear our family apart. Good luck.
Equity, is all you need to know.
Equity is not equality, equality allows for freedom, equity requires everyone to be chained down to the lowest denominator.
Definition of equity
1a : justice according to natural law or right specifically : freedom from bias or favoritism
b : something that is equitable
2a : the money value of a property or of an interest in a property in excess of claims or liens against it
b : the common stock of a corporation
c : a risk interest or ownership right in property
d : a right, claim, or interest existing or valid in equity
3a : a system of law originating in the English chancery and comprising a settled and formal body of legal and procedural rules and doctrines that supplement, aid, or override common and statute law and are designed to protect rights and enforce duties fixed by substantive law
b : trial or remedial justice under or by the rules and doctrines of equity
c : a body of legal doctrines and rules developed to enlarge, supplement, or override a narrow rigid system of law
Equity leads to racism.
Definition of equality
1 : the quality or state of being equal
2 : equation sense 2a
Clearly, the leadership of the church are becoming more focused on these concerning issues. Elder Holland put the “questionable faculty” on notice. Let’s see what the leadership of the church does next. I sense a bumpy ride upcoming. Hold on to your faith!
Wouldn’t it be nice if BYU would root out professors who seek to destroy faith in the church.
IMO Anyone wanting a "space" for only their race or other personal leanings, should not attend BYU. I don't recall Jesus limiting attendance to anyone, all are welcome to come unto Christ.
Makes me wonder if they are just creating a solution to a problem that does not exist. I remember a BYU talk by Elder Oaks on diversity where he said that diversity for diversity’s sake is not a worthy goal. I attended BYU nearly 40 years ago and the only prejudice or racism I saw was against me. Guess what, I put on my big boy pants, shrugged it off, moved on and never let it hamper my experience at BYU. I wonder what has changed. Is BYU responding to outsiders unfounded accusations of racism and intolerance?
Too much Babylon, not enough Christ, on campus. This is a perfect example of bending to the arm of the flesh in trying to be competitive with Ivy League Schools.
Yep.
Because racism happened to you and it's good you put ya big boy pants on, the issue is that racism shouldn't be happening or tolerated. Hopefully this office deals with persons who hold racist views.
@@Apbt-rv7zw the office recommended that BYUs race-neutral admittance policy be removed. They want prejudice.
@@537537 or like The Good Samaritan they want to support, encourage, lift up show charity toward the disadvantaged, the poor, the marginalized irregardless of race. Expressing gospel qualities in an education institution run by an Ecclesiastes would be of paramount priority.
In regards to safe spaces, I would love to see evidence of their effectiveness on fostering a more unified and equitable campus. I suspect that it hasn't produced those kinds of results.
I highly recommend reading “Coddling of the American Mind”. Safe Spaces have not had their intended effect, unless making students weaker was what they were meant to do.
The Holy Temple is a "safe place." We have many near BYU. Many testimonies say it is uplifting to go there, even empowering.
Excellent book!
Amen
Did anyone see the ‘meditation’ pods in the Mesa, AZ visitor center? Am I the only one who thought that was strange? I immediately thought of a safe space. The temple is literally outside…that’s where you should meditate. I suppose it’s a good alternative for nonmembers to sit in a cool place, instead of the temple grounds in the summer. But it still puzzles me.
I didn’t say this yesterday on your video about the speech given, but after watching it, I feel like I saw the pure power and authority and expression of the priesthood.
That speech is the kind of speech I imagine Joseph Smith received when he was chastened by the Lord for 3.5 hours.
A love I cannot yet duplicate was blinding in the 40 minute speech.
I would love if Andrew could/would talk about what it was like to be in those moments.
I found it very interesting that Elder Holland would have his friend present as he dealt with some of the churches laundering duties at BYU.
What does Andrew think of the mission of the school and how the troubles presented affect its performance?
What of the staff that may have felt the piercing of the words Elder Holland spoke? Would they speak of their mistakes, as Alma did, to reclaim some few whom they led astray?
If Elder Holland feels so deeply about BYU, then how deeply must the Lord feel about each of us?
Elder Holland set a standard for me to seek to obtain.
I hope others felt the same thing.
Well said!
I have a seemingly novel idea. How about people just go to school.
There's people who mean well, and there's people who don't. The Board of Trustees certainly means well. The enforcers on the ground at the school are who I'd be a little more skeptical of.
There are always people that don't mind, and some even eagerly, put on The Brown Shirt.
We have a place prepared for us in heaven. God wants us to feel we belong with Him. He expects us to do certain things to show we want to be there. He doesn’t lower His standards. I hope BYU isn’t planning on lowering their standards for diversity’s sake. I’m a Latina woman and a BYU alumni. I worked hard to get there and I worked hard to graduate. I don’t like the Marxist language we seem to be adopting from CRT. The principle behind CRT is divisive; Zion calls for unity. Please see that it’s Satan’s counterfeit.
Amen
I have very little confidence this new office won't morph over the years, adopt increasingly more destructive ideas and eventually embrace all of the committee's suggestions. This office is unnecessary.
Yes and yes!
The word safe means freedom from threats, whether it be physical, mental, emotional or spiritual. So, to see a need to create a safe space is to acknowledge there is a threat to these students and the action should be to address the threat, not to hide the students from it while the threat continues unabated.
I have tried my level best to refrain from commenting on this subject. Today in Kabul 13 American Soldiers were killed and many more people died and were injured. These brave warriors gave their lives so that students at BYU can have their save places. So they can complain about how hard their lives are. How unjust America and Americans are. These few students and liberal faculty members should look at Afganistan and see what life would be like in America if we become a Marist/Communist Country. You think it bad now? Look again. While you are sitting in your safe place why don't you thank those 13 Soldiers who gave the ultimate sacrifice so you can enjoy another day in America, The Promise Land.
I share you're thought on the resulting committee. My concern is that if it lives up to it's stated mission, it will not be enough for the progressive marxists. Utimately, belonging is the responsibility of the person - no one can make someone feel any way - belonging or not. The social justice warriors are not interested in belonging, but in power and control. I am concerned this is more of the appeasement philosophy.
You are rightly "concerned".
God is no respecter of persons .
So we've found something new in the gospel of Jesus Christ? "Belonging" Its been hidden all these years
I would say it is like Paul talking to the Greeks.
Michael you're a genius. It's like the difference between king James version and new international woke version.. of the Bible
Nope hasn't been hiding, it's just that racist tendencies haven't ceased so as an active step(s) toward handling generational racism an office has been formed.
@@Apbt-rv7zw you’re right - racist policies persist at BYU. BYUs Race, Equity & Belonging report recommends judging individuals for admittance based on their skin color.
@@537537 so if BYU is racist which is sanctioned and run by the LDS church then that would support the criticism by many that LDS theology/culture has been racist toward Blacks over the priesthood ban.
I just do not see the value of lowering standards to garner more diversity...everywhere it has been implemented, it has not worked well. On the other hand, I disagree with testing, and I work in the education field I see firsthand how badly testing affects students. There has to be a better way...maybe a change in the admissions structure.
"Equity" is very different than "equality". Equity is looking for equal results irregardless of input, it's socialist at it's core. Check the website, equity is still part of the name
Equity will only be achieved when the One who knows our true hearts becomes the Judge . It is NOT possible to achieve the so called “fairness “ some blindly demand in this life . Sadly one of the best part of being a Child of God is the differences amongst Us , which has now been turned against Us . No Civilization needs the same person in thought and deed , except when obedience to gospel principles is concerned . The outcome in Eternity will not be the same but gratefully it will NOT be based on Race and the decisions will be made by The One who has earned the right to judge .
CRT - Communist Rebranding Tactic
Why are they taking attention away from The Holy Temple?
Why is our tithing being spent for this?
I appreciate all you are doing to stay (and keep us) informed about the issues that are a part of the war between good and evil. It helps to parse out what is happening, especially in the light of truth - things as they really were, are, and will be.
You are welcome!
They are trying to appease both sides.... by doing so they will probably please neither. This is what happens when you walk in the middle.
Why is it needed to bring in the current Marxist theories at BYU ? Some of the concern is good …high school prep etc . But some of the ideas are extremely divisive Not uniting . Where did the “demand “ for these programs originate ? If there is someone I would look to for truth it is Bro. Holland but once again I prefer my grandchildren go elsewhere along with my tithing money . I pray good comes from these changes and All can comfortably attend BYU going forward .
The church needs to stop with the universities. Instead, give our scholarships.
There’s no way the church can stay neutral with what’s happening in the universities.
Seems the Hegelian dialectic in action to me. Holland gives the Abstract, the histrionics of the Equity activists negate, office of belonging is the concrete. Start the process again. It moves in the same direction.
Definitely some truth to this
Thanks for the breakdown! I was curious, and now I have some answers.
Any time!
Perhaps they can encourage diversity of thought as well... Nevermind, that will never happen
I can see why so many want to attend BYU. Council onward as The Lords children learn together preparing for The Lords 2nd Coming, even in painful learning
The purpose of the office seems fine, but it seems to be the nature of most institutions that once they have some power, they want to grow and expand their power. And the individuals within it will still be in perfect and self-serving. So while I think this will be far less problematic than similar offices in other institutions, it's still not going to be perfect (though if perfect is our standard, everything and everyone falls short of that save Christ himself).
If there are problems with discrimination in a lack of belonging, that problem exists in the heart of individuals. And other than continuing to preach the gospel, no top-down approach is going to address the real causes.
On the whole this still may be a good thing, just to show the world that we are willing to extend an olive branch and that our goals are for unity of the whole human race, can we back that up with our actions.
All the Orwellian doublespeak and doublethink causes me to feel threatened. Switching words around does not alleviate mine apprehension. Whom I like more and whom I like less and whom I want away from me entirely I consider to be mine own business and mine own choice. For that, I could be branded as a "racist" and a social pariah. Forced or coerced social engineering works only on surface levels. I would recommend that the LDS culture pay more attention to alleviating its blind and stupid prejudices against single adults of all races and nationalities. They are the latter day poor Zoramites of latter day Zion.
I’m really very confused…When did the church begin having prejudices? Particularly the young adults? I’ve been a young adult in this church, so we’re my children and some of my grandchildren. I don’t recall a time that the church as a whole had prejudices against anyone.
It is helpful to remember there is a HUGE difference between church doctrine and church culture.
@@karyncurr28 The Church is made up of people. It is the people who have prejudices. The prejudices of people and animals are based on education and experience, especially experiences. Show unto me a person with no prejudices, I will show unto you a little baby who can not remember very many experiences. There are positive and negative prejudices just as there are positive and negative experiences. Like begets like. To me, the only bad prejudices are those that do not reflect reallity very well or at all. Probably the biggest problem with prejudices in general comes about when they are over-relied upon. People follow prejudices when they have other more reliable ways to assess individual people, animals, things, and situations.
@@karyncurr28 It may go back to the time when President Young declared me to be a menace to the community for being over the age of 25 and not married. Prejudices are harder to recognise when you are not the object of negative prejudices. As a family woman, you would be very much less apt to notice the way that young single adults are made to feel when they are denied a temple recommend through no fault of their own just because they are single or all of the other numerous slights that they are habitually the victims of. You may have not even noticed single people at all.
Have you ever noticed that almost everyone who rises to positions within bishoprics and stake presidencies or higher levels are family men? What does it take to become a family man and remain one? Among many other things, it takes gobs of money. If a man does not have at least the appearance of one day becoming so pecunious as to be able to support a family in modern times, he is not part of the LDS girl's dream of family and children. Then he will be a dating game reject. Non-LDS women will reject him for being LDS.
Now think back to the story of the Zoramites in the 28tjh and 29th chapters of the Book of Alma. That story, just like every other part of the Book of Mormon, was prophetically selected to benefit us. The story of the Zoramites is a case in point. Single people are the latter day poor Zoramites of latter day Zion. Their talents and their virtues are overlooked when an opening occurs to be filled. I have frequently seen deadbeats and egocentric narcissists appointed to positions based on nothing save for money, family, and career status. i found that very painfully and starkly obvious in a rural small town environment where I knew everyone and knew that some of those appointees had nothing going for them except money and family.
@@barb8255 Forsooth.
BYU needs to not use tithing money to subsidize tuition. A poor Bolivian family struggles to pay tithing and that goes to subsidize some trust fund kids who's parents went to BYU. Having poor people pay for the education of rich people makes zero sense.
I get what they are trying to do but we all know when it comes down to it, it’s like Elder Holland said, they will still say “BYU who?”
What is the reference for Pres Oaks talking about equal opportunity vs equal outcome?
"The equality of God is not equal outcomes for all, but equal opportunity for all."
www.thechurchnews.com/leaders-and-ministry/2018-06-01/president-oaks-full-remarks-from-the-lds-churchs-be-one-celebration-10994
Sounds like BYU really means, the Office of Diversity, ie all who are breaking the commandments.
Thanks keep the GoodWork
I went to the Y, in part, because it was different than other universities. It's a sad day when a life-long, practicing member like me is embarrassed to be a BYU alumna.
"Office of what" ???!!!!! Oh, please! This is becoming worse and worse...
so much waste of resources to appease the woke social justice factions within the university. How about promote the doctrines and beliefs of the church. Nothing more required.
When the video or article gets a hole in it; it no longer holds water!
The most academic thing I can say about this is "stupid." We've fallen into the dialectic trap. It's just a little communism... no big deal.
My instinct has never felt good about president Worthen. Am I the only one suspicious of him?
The question is , how does ( the university powers that be ) this institution avoid that perisitacl religious principle and act of tranicalizim ?
I hope you are correct, but I have severe doubts.
Thank you for your updates!
My pleasure!
2:25- For crying out loud, the report clearly says, "Our discussion uses a *placeholder* name for this central office, the Office of Diversity and Belonging. If the recommendation is adopted, naming the office would be an important point of discussion." This is not a suggestion, and it is dishonest to claim otherwise.
8:45- Why are you framing this dishonestly? The committee did not recommend a mission statement for the proposed office.
10:20- Again, this is a dishonest claim. The report is extraordinarily clear that this was a placeholder name. Why isn't this video?
14:15- This is not what the report describes. This is another dishonest claim.
15:35- The committee does not once discuss lowering standards for university admission. *Again,* this is a dishonest claim.
17:15- Oh. my. gosh. The report literally says, "To be clear, this recommendation is not intended to isolate, segregate, or silo BIPOC students. Rather, ensuring available gathering space would serve to offer critical social connections for BIPOC and other underrepresented students free of the burdens of feeling isolated and otherized." They offer examples of how other universities have done something like this, with links. This was a stated desire of students: "[N]umerous BIPOC students from our focus groups advocated for a dedicated gathering space to facilitate connection and belonging." It's like you didn't bother to read beyond the executive summary.
Hey Nathan! Thanks for watching and commenting. I want to respond to this but it will probably be next week. Too much going on including heading out of town for our anniversary!
@@CwicShow No rush, take your time. Happy anniversary! Hope the weekend is wonderful!
BYU "Office Of Belonging" WOW! It took till now to get BYU understanding the meaning of belonging? They do seem a little SLOW to me. I was about 13 when I started being friends with the Catholic kid in my neighborhood (no other kids in the neighborhood would play with the one who was not LDS.) NOW ya put up an office? Slow, and it shouldn't be praised. This is way easier than elementary grade smarts. Grow up.
I have come to realize "gay" members of the church fel like the odd man out. And I feel for them. However, I also feel that their constant need for validation tiresome. A family member, who's "out", regularly posts to social media stuff critical of the church and the Brethren. But, moreover he daily posts stuff spotlighting himself and his lifestyle. It's narcissism on a grand scale. And I've noticed this before with other gay men.
I also have a friend who never expresses his orientation, though I suspect he's gay. He just serves and goes forward in life without fuss.
I would like to talk to this particular family member about his constant harping, but that would blow up. So I can either unfriend him on FB or just endure.
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