We are 100% getting overwhelmed, the disease would be an unknown to us and we wouldnt be sure how to properly quarantine something like that as quickly as it would require
My thoughts exactly Papa Roanoke. I'd give it a week, maybe two, before total assimilation. Astronauts be boned for sure, all they'd get to see is the scathing grotesque mass overtake the planet.. while waiting for the parasite to turn their attention to them.
@@lordnord8934 I know, but the purpose of burying myself is so my body is rotten to the point that I'll be used for biomass instead of being revived and have to experience the pain and my memories being deleted, lol
Dragons breath rounds are a low pressure round which doesn't have the force to cycle an automatic weapon, you would have to use a manually cycled weapon like a pump action or lever action. Sorry mate, I was disappointed when I learned this too. If you ask me the best weapon to use against the Flood it White phosphorus.
I always thought an ODST 2 flood game would be so sick with flood hunting specific weapons like flame shotguns, hollow point silenced SMGs, and human versions of energy swords since theyre allied with the swords of sanghelios
Why is this even a thing? The answer is quite simple: We’re believably fucked beyond all comprehension unless the meteor/pod containing the flood spore that would start it all lands in a volcano, or if we are informed beforehand about the meteor/pod containing the spore and take immediate steps to annihilate it in its entirety even if it means scorch earthing the area. End of story. What I would like to see is a “The Flood invades your favorite universes/games/fictional stories. How well do they fair?” type of videos.
Not so fast mate, modern militaries could literally just saturate the infected area with artillery and missiles, preferably with white phosphorus warheads, assuming the infected area hasn't gotten too big then we could probably wipe out the outbreak within a week. Of course we would have to act fast to prevent it from getting too big but we would definitely have a fighting chance.
@@j-wolf7209 That depends, if there’s spores in the air it’s over. If it’s like 30 infected forms or even 40, then yes we MIGHT have a chance. But anything beyond that is unstoppable. If the forerunners couldn’t do it, we sure as shit don’t stand a chance in hell. Let’s say we do successfully destroy all the forms. If a single spore the size of a microbe survives and is breathed in be wildlife or god forbid any human, there is no prepping or weapons (aside from halos, or blowing up the planet) that would be capable of stopping the flood.
@@reclaimeddead I disagree, I believe flood spores only start spawning at a certain point in like a heavily infected area, could be wrong tho. However, white phosphorus would most likely destroy any flood spores in the air, it is a chemical incendiary gas after all. Modern military's could probably take out a few tens of thousands (of infected forms) with little issue using this method. possibly much more depending on how concentrated they are.
@@j-wolf7209 Isn’t that the scenario we’re discussing? A heavily infected area? If that’s the case then there is no chance in stopping the flood whatsoever. By that time the flood would be far more intelligent than in the early stage where it is POSSIBLE, and this is if we are given prep time. If not, your scenario would fail miserably. The flood really aren’t all that weak to gasses, but they are weak to fire and extreme cold. So, if it’s in the early stages, we might and that’s a huge ‘MIGHT’ be able to fend it off in time.
@@j-wolf7209 We wouldn't. The Flood spread far too fast for that kind of saturation bombardment to be arranged. By the time they are ready to shell one infected area the Flood will have already spread to 4 other places.
Honestly I think you should do more what if scenarios in halo. For example, could lord hood in halo 3 actually survive a flood infected high charity coming to earth alongside whats remains of the unsc at that time.
Well by the time of the Battle of Installation 00, the UNSC was on its last legs so there's no chance they could contain it outside of WMD's. Now they could entirely stop even high charity infesting Earth by NOVA bombing it. Butttt...... they would entirety destroy Humanities homeworld so it would be a cataclysmic sacrifice
@@Mayflower-Yev Yeah I mean if people know the nature of the flood they would absolutely agree. Even if it was brand new to us, we would completely freak out upon seeing the transformation process of combat forms and just say Hammerdown and scorch earth the outbreak
I think something overlooked is how the outbreak will effect nature, plant life, certain insects, aquatic creatures, Even ones that dig underground. That would be utterly terrifying what they could infect and new Forms that would be created. Not mention their ability to make use of the hosts memories
@whensomethingcriesagain nope it can convert an entire plants ecosystem, it will still try to go for sentient life as a priority but it call still munch on anything around its environments to gather resources and energy. after all any other animals and plants are just biomass that can be collected to make more flood.
I have my doubts about my survival against the flood, just regular zombies would be stiff competition for me, the flood are just so unstoppable though I don’t think I would last long.
Our weapons might be somewhat effective but i think we are grasping at a dream if we think the world will instantly work together would be surprised that the superpowers would wait to help until one of them is taken out but at that point its way to late
You have to remember Halo takes place 500 years in the future, the bullets (the metal bits fired from the cartridge) are likely heavier than their modern day counterparts leading to higher stopping power. As well being fired at higher velocities due to potential advancements in powders and gas.
@@jaredgaines4279i dont think you understand the concept of how long 500 years is, cause in this amount of time, around 500 years ago we had crappy gunpower that was wasy less effective and efficient compared to todays, the rounds fired were slow, and guns were beginning stages. Now look at today where our quality if materials and such have stopping power and piercing hundreds of times more efficient and effective
Omg. I've never realized how much I need a flood analog horror based around a strike team or something stumbling onto the Flood. Please someone make a halo analog horror 😫
Mk 211 Raufoss would most likely be the best HMG round for combating the flood. It has a small HE filler. Also, modern AFVs and aircraft are fully sealed against CBRNE threats.
@@matmart33they use múltiple types of vehicles and Weapons, the games simplify that, AA Missiles, Artillery, they have drone Aircraft, preety much everything we have and more. And we play as a Uber Spec Ops Soldier that generally goes behind enemy likes and does infiltration.
Certainly it it a lot more prevalent than sealed vehicles in halo. The scorpion and wraith are two of the only vehicles that are sealed up properly, but their hatches are not particularly well sealed compared to the more comprehensive locks on modern tank hatches. Air vehicles are a little better in this respect, pelicans are a good comparison to the osprey and chinook.
Hey Luc! I don't normally comment on your videos but I love em all the same! I just wanted to make some corrections and additions to this. First off 5.56, it depends on the 5.56 round quite honestly. Not all 5.56 rounds are meant to penatrate body armor and there a lot of variants out there. The current standard issue variant of 5.56 over here in the the states is the M855A1 Enhanced Performance Round, a 62 Grain Bullet which uses a steel penatrator and can operate at higher chamber pressures from carbines and short barreled rifles like the M4A1. However, more common variants like the standard issue M855/SS109 version (known as Green Tip), also a 62-grain bullet used everywhere else in the world is not as effective and has been tested to not perform as well as the M855A1 due to M855/SS109 being yaw dependent for maximum effect (this means the bullets has to spin in the air a certain way for it to be fully effective). The A1 has less copper and lead in the bullet, meaning the length of the actual bullet inside the brass casing is longer giving a more consistent performance against soft targets and not having this issue. The last most common variant would be the US M193 round, a 55-grain bullet that was the first iteration that's a common civilian round here in the states. These bullets were known to leave nasty wounds in Vietnam because they were going so fast and being so accurate due to their lighter weight, meaning they would spin much easier (granted this would be dependant on the rifle's twist rate, meaning the how fast the rifleing inside the barrel would spin the bullet), but because of the lighter weight they wouldn't pack as much of a punch. Now 5.56 isn't meant to necessarily penatrate body armor perse (unless you used Black Tip Rounds which have a Tungsten Core bullet) but rather enter a target tumble within the targets body and do as much internal damage as possible. Would this be effective on the Flood? Kinda hard to say really, but I'll let you or any others in the comments be the judge of that. I'd like to point out that 5.45x39mm, the Russian version of the 5.56 acts in a very similar way, but with the actual bullet tip being quite a bit larger than 5.56. However generally speaking 5.56 is known to outperform 5.45 in most aspects. A bit of a correction, 7.62x39mm is NOT considered a Battle Rifle cartridge by any means, and is considered an intermediate cartridge much like 5.56 and 5.45. Now on to how this bullet works. The normal M43 variant of the bullet which is the most common variant is made to basically dump all of its energy on a target. While it does spin, unlike 5.56 and 5.45, it's less of a concern. This bullet is made to hit you and hit you hard while making sure you don't get up. However the downside of this bullet is that this bullet is solid, even while traveling through a human body mean there is less internal wounding. Would this be as affect against the Flood, I personally don't think so but that's up to you to decide. Yugoslavia made their own variant of the 7.62x39mm called the M67 which removes the mild steel insert the regular M43 variant has to make the bullet do more internal damage by shifting its center of gravity. However this has had limited effectiveness. Both 7.62x51mm NATO and 7.62x54mmR (the R standing from Rimmed) ARE Battle Rifle rounds. However in most scenarios 7.62 NATO has been shown to outperform 7.62x54mmR. However much like 5.56, 7.62 NATO has it's own number of variants, including hollow points, most of which kind of depend on the country your in with the standard being M80 Ball (at least thats what its called here in the states). An addition here, Russia has its own crazy shotgun that might be even more powerful than the Halo Shotgun called the KS-23. It was developed in the 70s and uses 4 GAUGE SHOTGUN SHELLS (I highly recommend watching Garand Thumb's video on it). However even within Russia it is quite rare to see. Now as you said in the video the best types of ammo would 12 Gauge, RIP Rounds (which can probably be easily loaded into most SMGs), big boi rounds like 7.62 NATO, and hollow points, while bullets meant to penatrate barriers like body armor would be a no go. Well there is one more variant of 5.56 I forget to mention. Mk262, a 77-Grain match grade open tipped hollow point projectile. While these were made specifically for long range shooting out of the Mk. 12 SPR, work perfectly fine in rifles as well that take 5.56 (like the M4A1) and are far superior to the standard M855/SS109 the world currently uses, probably almost on par with M855A1, and also are available on the civilian market (at least here in the US). It's not a be all end all round, but considering that most of the world is running some kind of 5.56 rifle as their standard issue rifle, I would think this round would make logical sense. So what do you think? And ppl in the comments are free to roast me if ya'll want. But Luc I wish ya the best, and stay iconic broham.
A day. At most, three. If it starts in a major city, it will be worldwide that day. If it starts in a secluded area with no people, it'll infect an animal, then go to a city and infect people. If there's no animals and no humans, it'll stay put until it gets what it needs, anything that's alive that can move.
What about the Flood in the oceans or any body of water where an initial crash most likely would happen or the infection spreads to? We only see the Flood on land as far as I know so I wonder about aquatic versions, like Flood sharks, squid or any fish.
There's ships that go overseas that they can board/hijack, or hop on cargo or passenger plane, and oh look, a load of fresh combat forms to start fighting with the instant they land the plane.
If you ask me, No. Even if the outbreak was contained to a small region and then have a thermonuclear bomb wiping the area out like the Epsilon Protocol, good luck surviving the nuclear fallout that would block the Sun and cause a Nuclear Winter (10 Modern Nuclear Bombs today to is all it would take to kill Humanity). Plus you have to remember, this is The Flood. The flood infection can spread via airborne methods. Then you also have the issue of the combat forms themselves, even just one bite or even get scratched by the flood, you can get infected even then. And once you keep adding more biomass to the flood, that is how they eventually create a Gravemind and it just keeps getting worse the longer it is not contained. Remember as our friend Ratas Vadum said it best “One Single Flood Spore Can Destroy A Species.”
I think there’s two scenarios for a Flood outbreak. Either humanity steps in early and snuffs it out before it ever becomes that big of an issue, or it experiences exponential growth and quickly takes over the planet while eliminating all the opposition
The superbowl intro gave me big time nostalgia since the team I support was there for the AFC. Cincinnati. Besides that Flood arriving NOW would be our end.
Oh my God Luc, that intro was the best intro you or any other Halo UA-camr has ever made with the way it ended. That was the best intro I've seen in years on all of UA-cam.😂
Frag rounds would be a great ammo type as well, us Americans love to experiment with our ammo and some crazy bastard found a way to make a bullet explode on impact.
Out of everyone you could choose you choose the fake Hollywood roid junkie? He's got a contract that says he can't lose fights in his movies, that's the most "don't challenge me I'll cry" thing I've ever seen, kevin hart is the most dangerous person in that duo.
@@bofasofa9399 I’m just saying 6’2 isn’t that tall, the flood will utilise a taller frame better, you’re more likely to kill a human infection form than a Sangheli one. Sounds like ur a short dude who is insecure.
Remember on Game of Thrones when Robert Baratheon asks "what is the greater number, 5 or 1?" And Cersei guesses 1, and Robert then holds up 5 fingers and then closes it into a fist saying 1, "one army, one purpose." That is the Flood, completely unified into one goal and willing to do anything to achieve it. Even if we were more unified than we've ever been we still wouldn't be able to stop the Flood
Actually 5.56 could be very effective if fired out of proper barrels. These projectiles tend to tumble inside flesh and will leave quite a big crater at the exit point ripping big chunks of meat.
That be super hard to deploy lmgs given standard platoons have only 2-3. You also move much slower given how heavy they are. They would definitely have to set up defensive perimeters rather than assault the flood. You just can’t move as fast.
Depends on the force and type of infantry. US Marines don't really like lmgs and don't have a lot, while an Army bradley platoon has 8 lmgs, 4 25mm cannons, and the co-ax m240s. But yes, set a defensive with really long site lines and pound the infestation with air and artillery.
One thing id like to mention about air power against the flood A lot of aircraft including the A10 are capable of using standoff weaponry like mavrick air to ground missiles or for the russians, the KH38 which is a 30+ km range missile Nowadays jets could also drop bombs from extremely high altitude likely safe from flood anti air
if a flood outbreak was to happen the biggest test would be where it first lands, depending on which country is first hit we could be overwhelmed in days, the other issue is civilians no matter how well armed do not make good combat units, people panic, get emotional, do not follow logic or sense and despite how many fantasies people have of being effective in a zombie outbreak, most would be overwhlemed quickly and with the flood, any biomass left can be sued in some way so we would see rapid expansion regardless of how fast we act, the odds would not be in our favour and our best defence would basically be hitting hard and fast in infected areas from above whilst forming border points with incendiary and impact weapons to prevent further sppread, although another issue we have then is the number of cave and tunnel systems that exist below ground in most countries where they could harbour in wait. I persoonally dont favour our chances mainly due to human nature, but I also wouldn't say our chance is zero, we would just need some good old MC luck on our side.
the same situation happened in the half life universe where a species like the flood called the combine destroyed all of earths military in only seven hours. (the seven hour war) the combine is basically the flood but isnt feral and is smart and tactical.
I would attempt to actively have a conversation about a potential compromise like we give them all people who make it to the age of 50-60 for peak biomass quantity
Yo Luc! If you haven't already, ya might consider trying out the Gravemind mods for L4D2. There's a ton of great work done by the mod authors and it was pretty cool to give a Flood Outbreak vibe to an already awesome game.
Hallow poi ts are used in hunting shooting to get a kill while full metal jackets are used in military are actually shooting to immobilize not necessarily meant to kill if that makes senses
This kind of video which goes into the nerdy stuff like weapons and vehicles is amazing… if done right, which you my sir have pulled this off in a fashion that I would say you have done perfectly. From the little things like caliber to the specific guns to the larger things like tactics that we should use, this is perfect. I’m a big gun nerd and it really makes me feel amazing when UA-camrs that are not guntubers go into specifics. I remember when you uploaded 2 videos that went over weapons during halo CE and those were astounding to me how the UNSC sniper rifle fires a round that is used in stuff like the PTRD and the PTRS. Both of those weapons are designed to be anti tank weapons, the crazy part about it though is that those rounds are bigger and penetrate armor better than something like 20mm, and yes the ptrs fires 5, 14.5 rounds but the halos sniper is so much better and it shocks me that the UNSC uses a caliber that old. Thank you so much and I would love to see stuff like halo 2 UNSC and covenant weapons in the same style as the halo CE series!
If it was just combat forms then we would probably be ok eventually. The infection forms i think would be a significantly bigger problem. Plus like has been mentioned before, we would need to respond damn near instantly and we would not be able to come up with a good enough plan fast enough.
What If on Halo 3's final mission the portal on the Ark sends the Forward unto Dawn (intact or split) carrying Master Chief, Cortana and Arbiter (all together, two or one depending if the ship splits or not) A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away . . . . Star wars (or to be more specific at the start or little before the Phantom Menace or New Hope) let the debate begin !?! Warning this is a work in progress! but feel free to take, edit and use in your final draft if you wish, just a small mention/credit of what I may have contributed will be fine with me :) Option 1, Arbiter solo: The front half of the Forward unto Dawn carrying Arbiter teleports into the Star Wars galaxy at speed, passes the CIS blockade, who are left wondering WTF was that, but of course turn their attention to another approaching ship ( Qui Gon Jinn / Obi Wan kenobi journey stays the same for now ... ) Arbiter crashes into the ocean or large lake on the planet of Naboo, after salvaging what he can and escaping the sinking wreck Arbiter sets off in search of civilization ... only at first to find Jar Jar Binks !?! ... After setting up camp for the night and having something to eat ( either human ration packs salvaged from the F.U.D | or some form of creature that Arbiter would be able to cook/eat ) lured by the smell of food Jar Jar " Attempts " to sneak up! ... Only to get caught (detected via Arbiters hunter/warrior senses ... that or his motion tracker) after a lot of begging/bargaining Arbiter takes pity on him and offers Jar Jar a deal, guide him to the " Human " capital of Naboo in exchange for food/protection (Jar Jar of course would accept this offer, what with being banished from going home for being clumsy) along the way perhaps they'll find a crashed but still operational warthog (which is worse, trusting Jar Jar to drive or shoot !) after some driving they come under attack from scouts of the droid invasion followed by the JEDI who come to their aid and ... could also appreciate a ride ... ( JJ will likely call Arbiter " Arby " for short throughout the story ) Option 2, Chief / Cortana: The back half of the Forward unto Dawn carrying Chief / Cortana teleports into from their perspective a unknown region of space! Cortana of course will start running scans of the area and drop a beacon for potential rescue (for about 4 years, 7 months, 10 days she won't be suffering from rampancy yet) ... oh would you look at that its the ship that Qui Gon Jinn/ Obi Wan kenobi are traveling on, after some basic introductions / explanations the JEDI will ask if MC/C would like to accompany them to the planet of Naboo or wait for another ship to give them a tow 1a) if they stay some time later the JEDI will send a message saying the CIS have just attempted to kill them, rather than being sitting ducks, Cortana uses what control they have over the F.U.D to steer it to Naboo for a controlled crash landing then using a escape pod. 1b) if they leave with the JEDI, the F.U.D will be left behind for now, will it stay adrift in space, get caught in Naboo's gravitational pull and crash there!) When arriving at the CIS blockade MC/C will have another two choices 2a) Stay in ship until what should be " short negotiations " are over! ... outcome: ship gets blown up with MC/C just about escaping the blast or rises from the wreckage like a Demon to the bewilderment of the battle droids 2b) Join the JEDI in the meeting to introduce themselves to this new galaxy or pretend to be acting security! ... outcome: oh boy, if the CIS were spooked about JEDI showing up in the original story, what are going to think Chief is ... Mandalorian perhaps ( they won't know anything about Cortana yet ) When Lord Sidious gives the order " kill them immediately " so the CIS blows up the horse they rode in on and " try " to gas the JEDI / Chief ... pfffft ha ha ha ha HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA cue the song ( Unyielding Soul ) | whichever scenario plays they link up and fight their way to the bridge (next question is can Cortana interface/hack the doors for the bridge e.g. is there a control panel they can hack? ... also don't forget the blast doors) still even after all that the droidika's with their shields may still be problematic leading to the group needing to sneakoff the ship! Option's 1/2 combined: When combining these perspectives most details stay the same, with the exception of Chief / Cortana telling the JEDI that Arbiter is about to crash-land on the planet of Naboo (or already has) they'll also be able to keep in contact with Arbiter via COM's until the CIS blocks communications
I want to see a video of the necromorphs from dead space vs the flood. How would it work and who would win ? Also what would happen if somehow they joined themselves together
The only reason FMJ is standard instead of hollow point is because of the Geneva Convention. This would not apply to combat with non-native combatants or arguably any combatants from countries that didn’t sign such conventions.
This was an amazing video, and I think Earth wouldn’t last a week without a country getting fully infected. I think it would be a cool idea to do a video like this but what if we discovered hell from Doom in 2023, and if we could survive or not, and what would happen
Well considering how some of the weapons aren't really available here in the UK for most of the population, I don't think my chances of survival are very high that said it wouldn't be hard to make Molotovs to use against the flood.
the 5.56 fmj isn't necessarily all about penetration. the 5.56 and even 5.45 are designed specifically to yaw inside the target at certain speeds. a 20" barrel (which is used by the M16 and many civilian owned ar15s) with 5.56 will speed that round up to at least 3100 fps, which is more than enough speed to cause the round to yaw and create a wide wound cavity. so 5.56 and 5.45 will be really good actually, even if they are fmj. We're still screwed, but not due to our ammo choice. it's the spores that'll get us. and if youve never used dragon's breath, that stuff really gunks up your gun. very dirty ammo. will jam your stuff eventually.
Imma be that guy, but the East used the 7.62x54R round as its "Full Power" rifle round not the 7.63x39 which technically is still a intermediate round between the larger rifle round and handgun rounds. (I shoot weapons in both 7.62x54R and 7.62x39) the difference is pretty big if you have shot either before.
This video is super well produced, but it falls into the same trap that a lot of videos on this topic do: Assuming that it would begin as a full on outbreak and get an immediate military response. Cabezon did a great video that goes in depth about a more realistic scenario where the Flood does what it originally did in canon. Lies dormant as a vague sickness, spreading as much as possible while keeping symptoms to a minimum. Slowly building up strength before finally beginning to mutate victims, purposefully and deliberately making itself seem like a bacterial infection up until the most opportune moment. Either way, we're still fucked.
We would be screwed no matter what as soon as Proto Grave Minds started forming, They would just be able to Splinter off and hide in the mass amount of underground caves Earth has to offer
For all those wondering, you can get your very own "Flame projection device" for around $600. Perfectly legal in most states in the U.S and can be shipped right to your door! Never you mind those Geneva suggestions! Congress never agreed to them!
Actually, one important counterpoint... We know the lore explicitly states that flood spores were capable of bypassing the most advanced filtration systems either the Forerunners, or ancient humanity had to offer.... That is to say, that there's nothing remotely close we could offer that would actually filter out the flood via gas masks, etc. Our only option in such situations would be full HAZMAT suits with self-isolated oxygen tanks and... yeah. Long story short, airborne flood would be an instant game over for the entire planet, virtually no questions asked... But it's still fun to speculate ;)
Concerning civilian flamethrower ownership: my neighbor has one for clearing brush on his property. Using it as a weapon is illegal afaik, but I'm sure an exception could be made for Flood
Fmj might not be that much of a issue since the BR could pop the infection form inside if a combat form in halo 2 or 3 can't rember accuracy and burst fire is the best way for standard troops to fight
Honestly if flood spores are anything like mushroom spores we're fucked. You just can't completely destroy them. Once an area is infected they're there forever short of nuclear bombs. Even then I'd be concerned that infected areas at the edges of blast would suck spores up into the vortex and spread them way further out in the atmosphere.
Bro bro bro hold up my guy you just informed me after being a halo lover and vet from day 1 of CE that the SNIPER ROUNDS GO RIGHT THROUGH THE FLOOD IN CE. I’m blown away.
The flood are only as strong as what they're made out of. Bones aren't bulletproof, and the flood swarm in hordes. I think that alone validates the use of penetrating weapons. I think a healthy mix in a squad of penetrating weapons and impact efficient weapons would be best. That way you aren't just hitting the front-most combat forms, otherwise their buddies will just use them as meat shields.
Anyone who knows the floods true capability’s knows that we wouldn’t even stand a chance with 1 single flood spore on earth right now we could barley handle COVID 🤣
5.56 fmj ammo is designed not to leave the body and to bounce around inside of the body of the target. The are lead based with a copper jacket. Now they do make ammo that isn't lead based that is designed for pen but nato 5.56 ammo isn't designed to do that.
Answer me honestly - Could you survive a Flood outbreak were it to happen today?
If I was in america. Maybe.
In europe/france? No.
Honestly, nope. One spore and it's over.
Nah we're fucked. Well maybe not me, I'm built different.
Nice we can't have to much flood video's
I'm in Ireland lol, we have one tank from 100 years ago
We are 100% getting overwhelmed, the disease would be an unknown to us and we wouldnt be sure how to properly quarantine something like that as quickly as it would require
Always fun to see other youtubers I enjoy out in the wild
My thoughts exactly Papa Roanoke.
I'd give it a week, maybe two, before total assimilation.
Astronauts be boned for sure, all they'd get to see is the scathing grotesque mass overtake the planet.. while waiting for the parasite to turn their attention to them.
Love seeing my boy papa Roanoke out enjoying the same content as I am
Here's a better one, why the techno organic life form known as the ELS would completely beat the life out of the Flood.
Look how dumb we got during covid lol, we'll be obliterated
I think I'd rather die buried deep within the ground than even attempt to fight a flood outbreak
we have better odds fighting the covenant then the flood
even with your body buried underground they'd still get your corpse and repurpose it
@@lordnord8934 I know, but the purpose of burying myself is so my body is rotten to the point that I'll be used for biomass instead of being revived and have to experience the pain and my memories being deleted, lol
@@Ghostlyslime ah no yeah fair point, I get what you mean now
@@GhostlyslimeWait, do they still do that even if you’re dead? Shouldn’t that be impossible since at this point your brain ain’t working?
So it looks like the best weapon to use against the Flood is:
A fully automatic AA12 with Dragons Breath shells
Coincidentally, it’s probably the best weapon to use against any form of life.
Dragons breath rounds are a low pressure round which doesn't have the force to cycle an automatic weapon, you would have to use a manually cycled weapon like a pump action or lever action.
Sorry mate, I was disappointed when I learned this too.
If you ask me the best weapon to use against the Flood it White phosphorus.
Why not the mini grenade option for the AA12
a revolving grenade launcher with fragmentation or incendiary?
Sadly, the AA12 is no longer produced and is not available. I believe only 2 exist right now.
I always thought an ODST 2 flood game would be so sick with flood hunting specific weapons like flame shotguns, hollow point silenced SMGs, and human versions of energy swords since theyre allied with the swords of sanghelios
Yes, please. 😊
So dragon breathe slugs, sub-sonic 9mm rounds and plasma swords.
Good god that emergency alert was amazing "Do not be afraid... I am peace... I am salvation" fantastic!!!
Why is this even a thing? The answer is quite simple: We’re believably fucked beyond all comprehension unless the meteor/pod containing the flood spore that would start it all lands in a volcano, or if we are informed beforehand about the meteor/pod containing the spore and take immediate steps to annihilate it in its entirety even if it means scorch earthing the area. End of story. What I would like to see is a “The Flood invades your favorite universes/games/fictional stories. How well do they fair?” type of videos.
Not so fast mate, modern militaries could literally just saturate the infected area with artillery and missiles, preferably with white phosphorus warheads, assuming the infected area hasn't gotten too big then we could probably wipe out the outbreak within a week. Of course we would have to act fast to prevent it from getting too big but we would definitely have a fighting chance.
@@j-wolf7209 That depends, if there’s spores in the air it’s over. If it’s like 30 infected forms or even 40, then yes we MIGHT have a chance. But anything beyond that is unstoppable. If the forerunners couldn’t do it, we sure as shit don’t stand a chance in hell. Let’s say we do successfully destroy all the forms. If a single spore the size of a microbe survives and is breathed in be wildlife or god forbid any human, there is no prepping or weapons (aside from halos, or blowing up the planet) that would be capable of stopping the flood.
@@reclaimeddead I disagree, I believe flood spores only start spawning at a certain point in like a heavily infected area, could be wrong tho. However, white phosphorus would most likely destroy any flood spores in the air, it is a chemical incendiary gas after all. Modern military's could probably take out a few tens of thousands (of infected forms) with little issue using this method. possibly much more depending on how concentrated they are.
@@j-wolf7209 Isn’t that the scenario we’re discussing? A heavily infected area? If that’s the case then there is no chance in stopping the flood whatsoever. By that time the flood would be far more intelligent than in the early stage where it is POSSIBLE, and this is if we are given prep time. If not, your scenario would fail miserably. The flood really aren’t all that weak to gasses, but they are weak to fire and extreme cold. So, if it’s in the early stages, we might and that’s a huge ‘MIGHT’ be able to fend it off in time.
@@j-wolf7209 We wouldn't. The Flood spread far too fast for that kind of saturation bombardment to be arranged. By the time they are ready to shell one infected area the Flood will have already spread to 4 other places.
Honestly I think you should do more what if scenarios in halo. For example, could lord hood in halo 3 actually survive a flood infected high charity coming to earth alongside whats remains of the unsc at that time.
Well by the time of the Battle of Installation 00, the UNSC was on its last legs so there's no chance they could contain it outside of WMD's. Now they could entirely stop even high charity infesting Earth by NOVA bombing it. Butttt...... they would entirety destroy Humanities homeworld so it would be a cataclysmic sacrifice
@@I_dcdAt that point it’s practically the only course of action that does anything positive.
@@Mayflower-Yev Yeah I mean if people know the nature of the flood they would absolutely agree. Even if it was brand new to us, we would completely freak out upon seeing the transformation process of combat forms and just say Hammerdown and scorch earth the outbreak
I think something overlooked is how the outbreak will effect nature, plant life, certain insects, aquatic creatures, Even ones that dig underground. That would be utterly terrifying what they could infect and new Forms that would be created.
Not mention their ability to make use of the hosts memories
Doesn't the Flood only infect sapient life due to the way its collective intelligence works?
@whensomethingcriesagain nope it can convert an entire plants ecosystem, it will still try to go for sentient life as a priority but it call still munch on anything around its environments to gather resources and energy. after all any other animals and plants are just biomass that can be collected to make more flood.
I have my doubts about my survival against the flood, just regular zombies would be stiff competition for me, the flood are just so unstoppable though I don’t think I would last long.
Our weapons might be somewhat effective but i think we are grasping at a dream if we think the world will instantly work together would be surprised that the superpowers would wait to help until one of them is taken out but at that point its way to late
You have to remember Halo takes place 500 years in the future, the bullets (the metal bits fired from the cartridge) are likely heavier than their modern day counterparts leading to higher stopping power. As well being fired at higher velocities due to potential advancements in powders and gas.
Not really, I believe the ma5b is chamber in 7.62 x 54. Basically 308 same as now
@@jaredgaines4279i dont think you understand the concept of how long 500 years is, cause in this amount of time, around 500 years ago we had crappy gunpower that was wasy less effective and efficient compared to todays, the rounds fired were slow, and guns were beginning stages.
Now look at today where our quality if materials and such have stopping power and piercing hundreds of times more efficient and effective
Omg. I've never realized how much I need a flood analog horror based around a strike team or something stumbling onto the Flood. Please someone make a halo analog horror 😫
Mk 211 Raufoss would most likely be the best HMG round for combating the flood. It has a small HE filler. Also, modern AFVs and aircraft are fully sealed against CBRNE threats.
I was just thinking that. Vehicles have NBC equipment. Also Halo doesn’t really use combined arms warfare
@@matmart33they use múltiple types of vehicles and Weapons, the games simplify that, AA Missiles, Artillery, they have drone Aircraft, preety much everything we have and more. And we play as a Uber Spec Ops Soldier that generally goes behind enemy likes and does infiltration.
Certainly it it a lot more prevalent than sealed vehicles in halo. The scorpion and wraith are two of the only vehicles that are sealed up properly, but their hatches are not particularly well sealed compared to the more comprehensive locks on modern tank hatches. Air vehicles are a little better in this respect, pelicans are a good comparison to the osprey and chinook.
Yeah, lots of soldiers in Halo were wearing sealed armor and still got infected, and we should presume their seals are better than ours.
5:54 we will all be dead by then, impressive that you did the math though
5:49 and it's then u see the tentacles coming out of his chest confirming that he's already one of them XD
Hey Luc! I don't normally comment on your videos but I love em all the same! I just wanted to make some corrections and additions to this.
First off 5.56, it depends on the 5.56 round quite honestly. Not all 5.56 rounds are meant to penatrate body armor and there a lot of variants out there. The current standard issue variant of 5.56 over here in the the states is the M855A1 Enhanced Performance Round, a 62 Grain Bullet which uses a steel penatrator and can operate at higher chamber pressures from carbines and short barreled rifles like the M4A1. However, more common variants like the standard issue M855/SS109 version (known as Green Tip), also a 62-grain bullet used everywhere else in the world is not as effective and has been tested to not perform as well as the M855A1 due to M855/SS109 being yaw dependent for maximum effect (this means the bullets has to spin in the air a certain way for it to be fully effective). The A1 has less copper and lead in the bullet, meaning the length of the actual bullet inside the brass casing is longer giving a more consistent performance against soft targets and not having this issue. The last most common variant would be the US M193 round, a 55-grain bullet that was the first iteration that's a common civilian round here in the states. These bullets were known to leave nasty wounds in Vietnam because they were going so fast and being so accurate due to their lighter weight, meaning they would spin much easier (granted this would be dependant on the rifle's twist rate, meaning the how fast the rifleing inside the barrel would spin the bullet), but because of the lighter weight they wouldn't pack as much of a punch. Now 5.56 isn't meant to necessarily penatrate body armor perse (unless you used Black Tip Rounds which have a Tungsten Core bullet) but rather enter a target tumble within the targets body and do as much internal damage as possible. Would this be effective on the Flood? Kinda hard to say really, but I'll let you or any others in the comments be the judge of that.
I'd like to point out that 5.45x39mm, the Russian version of the 5.56 acts in a very similar way, but with the actual bullet tip being quite a bit larger than 5.56. However generally speaking 5.56 is known to outperform 5.45 in most aspects.
A bit of a correction, 7.62x39mm is NOT considered a Battle Rifle cartridge by any means, and is considered an intermediate cartridge much like 5.56 and 5.45. Now on to how this bullet works. The normal M43 variant of the bullet which is the most common variant is made to basically dump all of its energy on a target. While it does spin, unlike 5.56 and 5.45, it's less of a concern. This bullet is made to hit you and hit you hard while making sure you don't get up. However the downside of this bullet is that this bullet is solid, even while traveling through a human body mean there is less internal wounding. Would this be as affect against the Flood, I personally don't think so but that's up to you to decide. Yugoslavia made their own variant of the 7.62x39mm called the M67 which removes the mild steel insert the regular M43 variant has to make the bullet do more internal damage by shifting its center of gravity. However this has had limited effectiveness.
Both 7.62x51mm NATO and 7.62x54mmR (the R standing from Rimmed) ARE Battle Rifle rounds. However in most scenarios 7.62 NATO has been shown to outperform 7.62x54mmR. However much like 5.56, 7.62 NATO has it's own number of variants, including hollow points, most of which kind of depend on the country your in with the standard being M80 Ball (at least thats what its called here in the states).
An addition here, Russia has its own crazy shotgun that might be even more powerful than the Halo Shotgun called the KS-23. It was developed in the 70s and uses 4 GAUGE SHOTGUN SHELLS (I highly recommend watching Garand Thumb's video on it). However even within Russia it is quite rare to see.
Now as you said in the video the best types of ammo would 12 Gauge, RIP Rounds (which can probably be easily loaded into most SMGs), big boi rounds like 7.62 NATO, and hollow points, while bullets meant to penatrate barriers like body armor would be a no go. Well there is one more variant of 5.56 I forget to mention. Mk262, a 77-Grain match grade open tipped hollow point projectile. While these were made specifically for long range shooting out of the Mk. 12 SPR, work perfectly fine in rifles as well that take 5.56 (like the M4A1) and are far superior to the standard M855/SS109 the world currently uses, probably almost on par with M855A1, and also are available on the civilian market (at least here in the US). It's not a be all end all round, but considering that most of the world is running some kind of 5.56 rifle as their standard issue rifle, I would think this round would make logical sense.
So what do you think? And ppl in the comments are free to roast me if ya'll want. But Luc I wish ya the best, and stay iconic broham.
Thank you for that comment. I enjoyed reading it.
When it comes to stuff like this the question isn’t “will we survive?” The question is “how much time do we have left?”
A day. At most, three. If it starts in a major city, it will be worldwide that day. If it starts in a secluded area with no people, it'll infect an animal, then go to a city and infect people. If there's no animals and no humans, it'll stay put until it gets what it needs, anything that's alive that can move.
What about the Flood in the oceans or any body of water where an initial crash most likely would happen or the infection spreads to? We only see the Flood on land as far as I know so I wonder about aquatic versions, like Flood sharks, squid or any fish.
Imagine that one Junji Ito manga but with the Flood instead of whatever funky thing Japan was experimenting on
There's ships that go overseas that they can board/hijack, or hop on cargo or passenger plane, and oh look, a load of fresh combat forms to start fighting with the instant they land the plane.
If you ask me, No.
Even if the outbreak was contained to a small region and then have a thermonuclear bomb wiping the area out like the Epsilon Protocol, good luck surviving the nuclear fallout that would block the Sun and cause a Nuclear Winter (10 Modern Nuclear Bombs today to is all it would take to kill Humanity).
Plus you have to remember, this is The Flood. The flood infection can spread via airborne methods. Then you also have the issue of the combat forms themselves, even just one bite or even get scratched by the flood, you can get infected even then. And once you keep adding more biomass to the flood, that is how they eventually create a Gravemind and it just keeps getting worse the longer it is not contained.
Remember as our friend Ratas Vadum said it best “One Single Flood Spore Can Destroy A Species.”
I think there’s two scenarios for a Flood outbreak. Either humanity steps in early and snuffs it out before it ever becomes that big of an issue, or it experiences exponential growth and quickly takes over the planet while eliminating all the opposition
Ahhh yes, the Coughing baby (Modern day Humanity) vs The Heat death of the Universe (The Flood)
The superbowl intro gave me big time nostalgia since the team I support was there for the AFC. Cincinnati. Besides that Flood arriving NOW would be our end.
Oh my God Luc, that intro was the best intro you or any other Halo UA-camr has ever made with the way it ended. That was the best intro I've seen in years on all of UA-cam.😂
Frag rounds would be a great ammo type as well, us Americans love to experiment with our ammo and some crazy bastard found a way to make a bullet explode on impact.
Okay just that intro, listening to the A.I of the televised system, turning its speech into quotes from the gravemind. That's actually pretty creepy.
Can you imagine the Rock as a Flood combat form? 0_0
He’s only 6’2 he’s not fucking giant
@@deitchj0036’2 is tall
Out of everyone you could choose you choose the fake Hollywood roid junkie? He's got a contract that says he can't lose fights in his movies, that's the most "don't challenge me I'll cry" thing I've ever seen, kevin hart is the most dangerous person in that duo.
@@deitchj003 why does height matter? dude is ripped, that's the point they were making. Its just like Brock Lesnar, who cares if they aren't 6ft 10
@@bofasofa9399 I’m just saying 6’2 isn’t that tall, the flood will utilise a taller frame better, you’re more likely to kill a human infection form than a Sangheli one. Sounds like ur a short dude who is insecure.
Remember on Game of Thrones when Robert Baratheon asks "what is the greater number, 5 or 1?" And Cersei guesses 1, and Robert then holds up 5 fingers and then closes it into a fist saying 1, "one army, one purpose."
That is the Flood, completely unified into one goal and willing to do anything to achieve it. Even if we were more unified than we've ever been we still wouldn't be able to stop the Flood
Actually 5.56 could be very effective if fired out of proper barrels. These projectiles tend to tumble inside flesh and will leave quite a big crater at the exit point ripping big chunks of meat.
That be super hard to deploy lmgs given standard platoons have only 2-3.
You also move much slower given how heavy they are.
They would definitely have to set up defensive perimeters rather than assault the flood. You just can’t move as fast.
Depends on the force and type of infantry. US Marines don't really like lmgs and don't have a lot, while an Army bradley platoon has 8 lmgs, 4 25mm cannons, and the co-ax m240s.
But yes, set a defensive with really long site lines and pound the infestation with air and artillery.
One thing id like to mention about air power against the flood
A lot of aircraft including the A10 are capable of using standoff weaponry like mavrick air to ground missiles or for the russians, the KH38 which is a 30+ km range missile
Nowadays jets could also drop bombs from extremely high altitude likely safe from flood anti air
if a flood outbreak was to happen the biggest test would be where it first lands, depending on which country is first hit we could be overwhelmed in days, the other issue is civilians no matter how well armed do not make good combat units, people panic, get emotional, do not follow logic or sense and despite how many fantasies people have of being effective in a zombie outbreak, most would be overwhlemed quickly and with the flood, any biomass left can be sued in some way so we would see rapid expansion regardless of how fast we act, the odds would not be in our favour and our best defence would basically be hitting hard and fast in infected areas from above whilst forming border points with incendiary and impact weapons to prevent further sppread, although another issue we have then is the number of cave and tunnel systems that exist below ground in most countries where they could harbour in wait.
I persoonally dont favour our chances mainly due to human nature, but I also wouldn't say our chance is zero, we would just need some good old MC luck on our side.
the same situation happened in the half life universe where a species like the flood called the combine destroyed all of earths military in only seven hours. (the seven hour war)
the combine is basically the flood but isnt feral and is smart and tactical.
I would attempt to actively have a conversation about a potential compromise like we give them all people who make it to the age of 50-60 for peak biomass quantity
Saw the title, initial response:
"The short answer is No".
-watches the breakdown because I love your energy and all of your videos-
Yo Luc! If you haven't already, ya might consider trying out the Gravemind mods for L4D2. There's a ton of great work done by the mod authors and it was pretty cool to give a Flood Outbreak vibe to an already awesome game.
Hallow poi ts are used in hunting shooting to get a kill while full metal jackets are used in military are actually shooting to immobilize not necessarily meant to kill if that makes senses
As opportunistic as I am normally, uh - I think we'd be better off giving the covenant keys to their rings than trying to stop the flood
That beginning message was down right terrifying, not going to lie, and modern military would not last long.
bro i would honestly submit myself because like that one elite in halo 3 said "One single flood spore could end a species"
"I am a timeless chorus; join your voice with mine, and sing victory everlasting!"
Any zombie apocalypse scenario, the Tried and true Shotgun never Fails to be reliable and Scattering brains and Body mass against a Wall
This kind of video which goes into the nerdy stuff like weapons and vehicles is amazing… if done right, which you my sir have pulled this off in a fashion that I would say you have done perfectly. From the little things like caliber to the specific guns to the larger things like tactics that we should use, this is perfect. I’m a big gun nerd and it really makes me feel amazing when UA-camrs that are not guntubers go into specifics. I remember when you uploaded 2 videos that went over weapons during halo CE and those were astounding to me how the UNSC sniper rifle fires a round that is used in stuff like the PTRD and the PTRS. Both of those weapons are designed to be anti tank weapons, the crazy part about it though is that those rounds are bigger and penetrate armor better than something like 20mm, and yes the ptrs fires 5, 14.5 rounds but the halos sniper is so much better and it shocks me that the UNSC uses a caliber that old. Thank you so much and I would love to see stuff like halo 2 UNSC and covenant weapons in the same style as the halo CE series!
This is possibly the most goated remake you could have done
Depends on the flood stage. At the feral stage, we might stand a chance if we respond quickly with nuclear weapons and containment
small nitpick - 7.62x39 is still an intermediate cartridge rather than a full power rifle round, such as 7.62x51
“One single flood spore can destroy an entire species” Rtas vadum
We'd be lucky to last a week, the moment the Flood acquires the knowledge of a pilot or using boats, we're so boned.
If it was just combat forms then we would probably be ok eventually. The infection forms i think would be a significantly bigger problem. Plus like has been mentioned before, we would need to respond damn near instantly and we would not be able to come up with a good enough plan fast enough.
Spewing flamethrower until you're out of fuel, Swinging blade until it breaks, swinging fist until you're infected
Quite the way to die
What If on Halo 3's final mission the portal on the Ark sends the Forward unto Dawn (intact or split) carrying Master Chief, Cortana and Arbiter (all together, two or one depending if the ship splits or not) A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away . . . . Star wars (or to be more specific at the start or little before the Phantom Menace or New Hope) let the debate begin !?!
Warning this is a work in progress! but feel free to take, edit and use in your final draft if you wish, just a small mention/credit of what I may have contributed will be fine with me :)
Option 1, Arbiter solo: The front half of the Forward unto Dawn carrying Arbiter teleports into the Star Wars galaxy at speed, passes the CIS blockade, who are left wondering WTF was that, but of course turn their attention to another approaching ship ( Qui Gon Jinn / Obi Wan kenobi journey stays the same for now ... ) Arbiter crashes into the ocean or large lake on the planet of Naboo, after salvaging what he can and escaping the sinking wreck Arbiter sets off in search of civilization ... only at first to find Jar Jar Binks !?! ... After setting up camp for the night and having something to eat ( either human ration packs salvaged from the F.U.D | or some form of creature that Arbiter would be able to cook/eat ) lured by the smell of food Jar Jar " Attempts " to sneak up! ... Only to get caught (detected via Arbiters hunter/warrior senses ... that or his motion tracker) after a lot of begging/bargaining Arbiter takes pity on him and offers Jar Jar a deal, guide him to the " Human " capital of Naboo in exchange for food/protection (Jar Jar of course would accept this offer, what with being banished from going home for being clumsy) along the way perhaps they'll find a crashed but still operational warthog (which is worse, trusting Jar Jar to drive or shoot !) after some driving they come under attack from scouts of the droid invasion followed by the JEDI who come to their aid and ... could also appreciate a ride ... ( JJ will likely call Arbiter " Arby " for short throughout the story )
Option 2, Chief / Cortana: The back half of the Forward unto Dawn carrying Chief / Cortana teleports into from their perspective a unknown region of space! Cortana of course will start running scans of the area and drop a beacon for potential rescue (for about 4 years, 7 months, 10 days she won't be suffering from rampancy yet) ... oh would you look at that its the ship that Qui Gon Jinn/ Obi Wan kenobi are traveling on, after some basic introductions / explanations the JEDI will ask if MC/C would like to accompany them to the planet of Naboo or wait for another ship to give them a tow
1a) if they stay some time later the JEDI will send a message saying the CIS have just attempted to kill them, rather than being sitting ducks, Cortana uses what control they have over the F.U.D to steer it to Naboo for a controlled crash landing then using a escape pod.
1b) if they leave with the JEDI, the F.U.D will be left behind for now, will it stay adrift in space, get caught in Naboo's gravitational pull and crash there!) When arriving at the CIS blockade MC/C will have another two choices
2a) Stay in ship until what should be " short negotiations " are over! ... outcome: ship gets blown up with MC/C just about escaping the blast or rises from the wreckage like a Demon to the bewilderment of the battle droids
2b) Join the JEDI in the meeting to introduce themselves to this new galaxy or pretend to be acting security! ... outcome: oh boy, if the CIS were spooked about JEDI showing up in the original story, what are going to think Chief is ... Mandalorian perhaps ( they won't know anything about Cortana yet ) When Lord Sidious gives the order " kill them immediately " so the CIS blows up the horse they rode in on and " try " to gas the JEDI / Chief ... pfffft ha ha ha ha HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA cue the song ( Unyielding Soul ) | whichever scenario plays they link up and fight their way to the bridge (next question is can Cortana interface/hack the doors for the bridge e.g. is there a control panel they can hack? ... also don't forget the blast doors) still even after all that the droidika's with their shields may still be problematic leading to the group needing to sneakoff the ship!
Option's 1/2 combined: When combining these perspectives most details stay the same, with the exception of Chief / Cortana telling the JEDI that Arbiter is about to crash-land on the planet of Naboo (or already has) they'll also be able to keep in contact with Arbiter via COM's until the CIS blocks communications
should sumulate the flood with Plague inc the game, allows u to truly simulate multiple plagues how ever u make it on a world wide scale
I want to see a video of the necromorphs from dead space vs the flood. How would it work and who would win ? Also what would happen if somehow they joined themselves together
It's terrifying how the public can own weapons like that!!!
An incinary gun?!! No wonder the world is the way it is!!!
Coastal bombardment from Navy would also be crazy against the flood though imagine the flood infect the ocean it's game over
*Me running around with the MA5B in infinite* reach assault users " That's...th..THATS CHEATING HE'S CHEATING YOUR NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE THA-" *dies*
"Flamethrowers arent exactly srandard issue"
*laughs in commercial availability of fmalethrowers in america*
This auto played on me at 7 in the morning. Alarm blaring scared the piss out of me 🤣
LMAO
The only reason FMJ is standard instead of hollow point is because of the Geneva Convention. This would not apply to combat with non-native combatants or arguably any combatants from countries that didn’t sign such conventions.
i feel like you also have to consider whether the government would be competent enough to deal with it
This was an amazing video, and I think Earth wouldn’t last a week without a country getting fully infected. I think it would be a cool idea to do a video like this but what if we discovered hell from Doom in 2023, and if we could survive or not, and what would happen
Living in Montana I can attest flamethrowers are used quite a lot to burn off crops
Well considering how some of the weapons aren't really available here in the UK for most of the population, I don't think my chances of survival are very high that said it wouldn't be hard to make Molotovs to use against the flood.
the 5.56 fmj isn't necessarily all about penetration. the 5.56 and even 5.45 are designed specifically to yaw inside the target at certain speeds. a 20" barrel (which is used by the M16 and many civilian owned ar15s) with 5.56 will speed that round up to at least 3100 fps, which is more than enough speed to cause the round to yaw and create a wide wound cavity. so 5.56 and 5.45 will be really good actually, even if they are fmj. We're still screwed, but not due to our ammo choice. it's the spores that'll get us. and if youve never used dragon's breath, that stuff really gunks up your gun. very dirty ammo. will jam your stuff eventually.
Imma be that guy, but the East used the 7.62x54R round as its "Full Power" rifle round not the 7.63x39 which technically is still a intermediate round between the larger rifle round and handgun rounds. (I shoot weapons in both 7.62x54R and 7.62x39) the difference is pretty big if you have shot either before.
Another fascinating question of the same caliber, can i survive a train hitting me directly going mach-*NO*
This video is super well produced, but it falls into the same trap that a lot of videos on this topic do: Assuming that it would begin as a full on outbreak and get an immediate military response. Cabezon did a great video that goes in depth about a more realistic scenario where the Flood does what it originally did in canon. Lies dormant as a vague sickness, spreading as much as possible while keeping symptoms to a minimum. Slowly building up strength before finally beginning to mutate victims, purposefully and deliberately making itself seem like a bacterial infection up until the most opportune moment.
Either way, we're still fucked.
Imagine how easy Gravemind would already affect our devices and the internet. Communications on devices might not be the best thing to use.
I see it one of two ways.
1. Military catches it early and 99.9% of the world never knew it happened.
2. We all die.
So long story short, humanity would need to get on board with multiple war crimes very quickly in order to survive. I have my doubts.
We would be screwed no matter what as soon as Proto Grave Minds started forming, They would just be able to Splinter off and hide in the mass amount of underground caves Earth has to offer
For all those wondering, you can get your very own "Flame projection device" for around $600. Perfectly legal in most states in the U.S and can be shipped right to your door! Never you mind those Geneva suggestions! Congress never agreed to them!
Actually, one important counterpoint... We know the lore explicitly states that flood spores were capable of bypassing the most advanced filtration systems either the Forerunners, or ancient humanity had to offer....
That is to say, that there's nothing remotely close we could offer that would actually filter out the flood via gas masks, etc.
Our only option in such situations would be full HAZMAT suits with self-isolated oxygen tanks and... yeah.
Long story short, airborne flood would be an instant game over for the entire planet, virtually no questions asked...
But it's still fun to speculate ;)
Concerning civilian flamethrower ownership: my neighbor has one for clearing brush on his property. Using it as a weapon is illegal afaik, but I'm sure an exception could be made for Flood
Fmj might not be that much of a issue since the BR could pop the infection form inside if a combat form in halo 2 or 3 can't rember accuracy and burst fire is the best way for standard troops to fight
Right off the bat, a brief super bowl commercial?
Wasn’t the boog I was expecting, but this will do.
On a scale of 1 to Gravemind, we'd be at Keymind levels of screwed.
* Flood opens door to my house seeing me with a gas mask and a ready flamethrower * screeching noises me URAH MF'S!
The moment flood spores are in the air, humanity is boned. There's not much you can do about spores
Dude at that point I'd volunteer to the sweetness, to hell with fighting a hopeless battle lmao
Honestly if flood spores are anything like mushroom spores we're fucked. You just can't completely destroy them. Once an area is infected they're there forever short of nuclear bombs. Even then I'd be concerned that infected areas at the edges of blast would suck spores up into the vortex and spread them way further out in the atmosphere.
Bro bro bro hold up my guy you just informed me after being a halo lover and vet from day 1 of CE that the SNIPER ROUNDS GO RIGHT THROUGH THE FLOOD IN CE. I’m blown away.
Using the song blow me away by Breaking Benjamin was a nice touch.
I wanna ride a refitted Castle Bravo down to ground zero like it's a nuclear bull
Exlposive Rounds would be too good in this situation
7:26 hell yeah they are allergic to 8 gauge lol.
I hope you mention tank canister rounds. Basically shotgun shell, but tank round size. Lol
So what you're saying is my 12 Gauge with Buck and PC 9MM carbine with hollow points. Gotcha.
Long answer ; We die
Short answer :we die fast
This was a really cool video idea! I'd love to see one about how we could handle the covenant, how long could we last against each type of unit
You would think the shockwave around a sniper round would still rip apart the flood just like they do I'm real life.
The flood are only as strong as what they're made out of. Bones aren't bulletproof, and the flood swarm in hordes. I think that alone validates the use of penetrating weapons. I think a healthy mix in a squad of penetrating weapons and impact efficient weapons would be best. That way you aren't just hitting the front-most combat forms, otherwise their buddies will just use them as meat shields.
The flood will be here in "one hundred thousand something days" my bones will be ready🫡
5:52 lol :)
We would certainly put up a valiant effort to the bitter and tragic end
From the moment it said "Do not be afraid", my autistic echolalia kicked in 🤣
Anyone who knows the floods true capability’s knows that we wouldn’t even stand a chance with 1 single flood spore on earth right now we could barley handle COVID 🤣
5.56 fmj ammo is designed not to leave the body and to bounce around inside of the body of the target. The are lead based with a copper jacket. Now they do make ammo that isn't lead based that is designed for pen but nato 5.56 ammo isn't designed to do that.
It there was a scale of 0-gravemind on how screwed we are. It would definitely be keymind