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1984 NLCS Gm5: Durham's error opens the door
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- Опубліковано 27 січ 2015
- 10/7/84: Leon Durham's error opens the door to a four-run inning as the Padres beat the Cubs 6-3
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By the way Excellent Play-Play Commentary by Don Drysdale. The tone of his voice as like Millions of TV Viewers watching of shock of this Durham play was spot on.
And the following year, the NLCS was changed from a 5 game series to a 7 game series.
They need to back to 5
That hacked me off to no end...I was a Toronto fan back then and they were up 3-1 before losing to KC.
I'm a long time Red Sox fan and this film clip brings back the memories of 1986 and Bill Buckner. Billy Buck and Bull Durham, two fine Cubs' firstbasemen. It could only happen in the movies! LOL!!! Slow or stop the film and look at how far Durham's glove is off the ground! Sometimes when you squat like that for a grounder your forearm hits your thigh and stops your arm and glove from getting down to ground level.
Leon Durham was a solid player 2 time All Star shame this one play is remembered it's like Bill Buckner solid career & remembered for 1 mistake
Drugs did in Durham's career...his error may have cost them a trip to the series, but- even if they got there, the Detroit Tigers were clearly the best team in baseball in 1984
@@tjplaya1156 Yup. No body was beating the Tigers in 1984. The Tigers are so disrespected in terms of "Lists of Best MLB Teams of All Time" for a single season. At best they are maybe ranked #9-#10 from lists I Have seen.
Buckner are better player than durham, durham came and was gone in no time!
1990 Cincinnati reds have to be top 3 at least ALL TIME@@americangiant1003
@@islander5858 The 1990 Reds are a great team. With that said, slow down on calling them “top 2-3 teams” in modern MLB history since WW2. Heard of in no order. 1)1974 Oakland A’s 2)1976 Reds 3)1961 Yankees 4)1998 Yankees 5)2012 SF Giants 6)1984 Tigers are all ahead of the 1990 Nasty Boys Era Champion Reds.
I haven't seen this for over 30 years and it still hurts to see it. Painful!
I wasn't a Cub's fan, and I found it a brutal play to watch, a ball player's worst nightmare come to life.
Between the '69 Cubs blowing they're 8 game lead late, this debacle losing Game 5 to the Padres after killing them in game 1 and 2, and the Steve Bartman loss to the Marlins in 2003, could there be any more travesty. Thank God the Cubs won it all in 2016 🤯
Why didn't Durham achieve 1/100th of the infamy Buckner did? If you mention this play to most baseball fans they won't recall it, yet Buckner is remembered by people who haven't seen a game in their life.
+Rylan Dawe I think it's because Bucker did it at a World Series game. I would be much more disappointed in a Championship blunder than a playoff one
how did he miss that ball?? like how????
Because Buckner's error in the 10th inning resulted in a walk-off win of a WS game, and Red Sox needed just 1 win to take it all.
Rylan Dawe big difference.
Durham's error allowed the Padres to tie the game. Buckner's error allowed the Mets to the win the game.
Leon Durham - the Bill Buckner before Bill Buckner.
Did Bill Buckner take fielding lessons from Leon Durham?
If you knew anything about baseball, Buckner was the Cubs 1B and Durham, who came up as a 1B, played in the OF. So if anything Buckner was giving Durham fielding lessons.
@@Lawomenshoops Yep, and I'll never forget them moving Leon over to 1B and trading Bucker to Boston. Buckner cried (and I did too as a 9 year old kid losing my 1st "favorite player") as his farewell press conference, he loved the Cubs. His first AB in Boston was a round-tripper.
Leon Durham took over from Bill Buckner at 1st base that season after Buckner was traded to the Red Sox.
Blue Skeptic Leon Durham was first
It's October 7, 2016...it was 32 years ago today that the ball went through Leon Durham's legs.
Disappointment? I'm a Padres fan. All the best to the Cubs this time though.
"Durham gets down on the ball..." Yes, that's good. Now it's just a simple matter of staying down as the ball arrives.
It's nice to get down on a grounder, but you also have to get the glove down with you.
Bill Buckner votes yes on your comment.
Painful, still painful
As of 2021 this statement remains true.
Jack Murphy Stadium had a tough infield due to the Padres sharing with The Chargers.
Leon Durham, Bill Buckner, Daniel Murphy.
...and Alex Gonzalez! 😟
...Jose Lind
That guy on 1st for Pittsburgh! He's still chasing Baez.
That opened the flood gates for the Padres. The Cubs never recovered.
Cubs still havent recovered since this happened 37 years ago. The count is now 113 years since their last World Series title. Indeed the Billy Goat Curse lives on.
@@musicman76enator The cubs won in 2016
@@bradyrhodess No they didnt. There wasnt a World Series that year dude.
@@musicman76enator WOW! Ha ha ha. 🤣
Even if the Cubs won that game to get to the World Series, the Tigers were on a role and they were going to roll over any NL team that made it in the World Series. The Padres ended up losing in 5 and I don't think the Cubs would have given the Tigers a good fight anyway.
Totally not the point. Just getting to the series would have been so huge for the franchise.
Wasn't going to happen with the newspaper owning the team
Poor “ Bull “ Durham took this play so hard after the game he tried to commit suicide by jumping in front of a bus . . . It went right thru his legs
worst moment in Chicago cubs history. Still painful to watch
Worse than the Bartman play?
This is part of the reason the Cubs havent won a World Series since 1908. 113 years and counting. The Billy Goat Curse lives.
@@americangiant1003 Both are bad. They're the reason the Cubs havent won anything in 113 years and why the Billy Goat Curse still exists.
@@musicman76enator You aware they won in 2016 right?
@@americangiant1003 There wasn't a World Series in 2016, so no one won. I think you're referring to either the EA Sports Gaming tournament that year won by Will The Autograph Guy Cooper or the commercial for the video game. In reality, the Cubs still haven't won a title since 1908.
This play happen to me back in my middle school years 😂😭
This was the predecessor to Bill Buckner’s “Behind the bag!” moment. Ironically, Buckner used to be a Cub.
Cubs replaced Buckner with Durham at first base early in the season, this created friction between Buckner and the cubs that caused the Cubs to trade him to the Red Socks mid season. This play that Durham failed at was much more routine then Buckner who barely got to where the ball was and the ball took a nasty bounce slightly to the left just as Buckner got his glove down. This ball rolled mostly strait and centered; Durham simply didn't get his glove down all the way.
Great points to bring up. I didn't know Buckner had been replaced by Durham at first. Buckner must have felt vindicated but only briefly. Cruel is life sometimes! Both these guys were great players and their accomplishments far outshine those two moments of agony. Real sports enthusiasts understand
@@cgraf69 Buckner also had no knees left in 1986.
worn out ankles as well
I remember watching this live, it made this White Sox fan so happy, mind you I was 12 at the time lol I miss the Garvey home run game. Sny chance anyone might have that one?
That was the moment that furniture somehow started flying around my living room. My wife just walked in from the kitchen and shook her head. We had been married two years at the time and will have our 42nd anniversary in August.
I love watching the Cubs lose. Makes me feel good.
Must be a freaking Cardinal fan...
Tj Playa Pirates fan.
🤣🤣🤣
You’re pure evil.
@@crowtservo Pirates fan? They have those ?
If they got past Padres and beat Detroit we will just be talking about the 1984 cubs
What I remember...Buckner gave some little tongue-in-cheek snide remark about this play. And then karma ruined his life for the next 20 years (until 2004)
Bill Buckner made the same error two years later in the World Series. His error led to the winning run for the Mets and forced a game seven. Leon's error opened the door for a rally by the Padres to help them win the NL pennant and is pretty much forgotten while Bill's error will live on forever. Ironic isn't it.
Yeah I forgot about Durham error, blame the media for always talking about Buckner error.
Actually, thanks to youtube, Leon's errot will be remembered. I'm sure he's thrilled about that.
Interesting that the Cubs and Red Sox both had their curses extended by misplays at first base.
Leon Durham's error was even worse Bill Buckner's.
How much coke are you taking dude? The Durham error helped get the Padres to the WS, but they didn't win it. Buckner's allowed the Mets to reach game 7 of the WS. The biggest difference, to me, was that Durham was 100% healthy. Buckner's ankles hurt so bad he had to wear high tops and ice them before and after each game. One was a player error (Durham) and the other a managerial error (not taking Buckner out of the game for a better defensive 1B).
Not really. The ball was going faster
@@AvrilAlvarez But Leon Durham's five-hole error was in a winner-take-all playoff game in the best-of-five NLCS at that time while Bill Buckner's saw the Red Sox have one more chance in the 1986 World Series in Game 7.
And wouldn't you know it Bill Buckner took the Durham course on how to field ground balls.
The curse of the goat
Cubs' fans did get their happy time though in 2017. Good things take time. I was 18 when the Red Sox lost in 1967 to the Cardinals, so I know how Cubs fans felt.
Durham's Glove Took Bath In Playoff Before Cubs Did
MESA, ARIZ. - Nearly four months after the Cubs lost the National League pennant to the San Diego Padres, a curious account of what went on in the Cubs' dugout before the fifth playoff game has spilled forth.
Here is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the soggy truth of the matter that left Cub fans with an unquenched thirst for a World Series:
There are 10 minutes left before game time, the fifth and deciding contest of the League Championship Series at Jack Murphy Stadium. The winner will meet the Detroit Tigers in the World Series.
Ryne Sandberg, who would be named the league's Most Valuable Player a month later, fumbles around in the dugout for a swig of Gatorade. Sandberg, the two-time Gold Glove second baseman who committed only six errors all season, accidentally knocks over the ice cooler filled with Gatorade, soaking Leon Durham's first baseman's mitt.
How did that ball get thru?
As a Padres fan, I just never get tired of seeing that...hehehe!
As a Cubs fan, I just never get tired of walking past the World Series trophy sitting in an office outside of Wrigley Field, while the Padres fans are still searching for a trophy and in appearance in the World Series for the first time since 1998...hehehe!
obiwan2112 as a tigers fan i never get tired of beating your Padres in five hehehe
The Great One --- very true! and maybe another tittle on the way! GO CUBS!!
Tim Flannery sent me here!
The Chicago Cubs won the 2016 World Series. It is too late to mention about Leon Durham's error.
Billy the goat 🐐
It's all forgotten now... THE CUBS ARE GOING TO THE WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORLD SERIES AND THEY DON'T NEED A TICKET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Travis Bickle second city no longer
The Infamous wee gonna have to get used to winning now.. ain't that a bitch!?!,
Thanks again Leon hahaha go Padres!
A foreshadow to Buckner error.
Curse of the Billy Goat
Ironically the cubs traded Buckner to make room for Durham
I was just a kid when this happened. It still stings! Thanks Leon Durham!
I think Durham gets a bum rap here. The Cubs probably would have lost anyway. Let's assume he makes the play - Flannery is out at first. Martinez moves to third, now there's two outs. Wiggins singles, Martinez scores, 3-3. Gwynn doubles, Wiggins scores, 4-3. Garvey singles, Gwynn scores, 5-3. So his error is the difference between 6-3 and 5-3. Either way, Cubs lose.
You absolutely, positively cannot assume that the plays would have happened in exactly the same way. How can you possibly know that?
terminat1 exactly, pitch selection changes depending on the situation
I guess my point is Durham gets blamed for everything. Yes his error was important. But Sutcliffe deserves some of the blame too. He gave up 2 runs in the previous inning - nothing to do with Durham. And in the fateful 7th, Sutcliffe gave up a walk, two singles, and a double, all when getting just one out (two if you count the play the Durham should have made). But no one talks about how Sutcliffe, who was 16-1 with the Cubs that season, fell apart in the 6th and 7th inning.
yeah but the cubs lose anyway. they were still cursed back then.
Perfect scripting of a game...back to sleep I go.
Murphy did it.
Too much pre-game coke.
GD!
Another fond memory of Cubs futility.
you hate the Cubs but still watch them? oh right...sox fans = cubs obsessed
famguy218 no no no. Only to see the hilarity and absurdity. We are seeing much of the same as I type this. The Past has told us....you don't wanna go game 5 in Chicago. It should be a good one. Good luck to you. 😂
Michael Penny then watch the Sox's regular season for absurdity and hilarity
😂😂😂 good one. I know a good parade rou....never mind you've heard that before. The time is NOW for you guys before free agency rip this team apart. We could go back and forth all night. I'll end it at that.
Michael Penny cuz the Sox are a well stacked team?
I like this as a Padres fan.
Buckner-esk
Hmmmm...not believable.
Cub busters