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LUKAS 1862 vs LUKAS Studio Watercolor Review & Comparison
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- Опубліковано 16 тра 2016
- LUKAS 1862 vs LUKAS Studio Watercolor Review & Comparison
In this video I will compare the LUKAS 1862 Artist quality watercolor paints with the LUKAS Studio student grade line of paints. I am using the 12 half pan travel sets which happen to contain the same colors.
Please note: I was not asked or compensated by Lukas or Jerry's Artarama to post this review. These findings and opinions are my own.
I am comparing the Lukas Aquarelle Studio set of 12: www.jerrysartar...
With the LUKAS 1862 artist grade set of 12 half pans: www.jerrysartar...
Price: (12 half pan travel sets)
LUKAS Studio retail: $23.05 (Sale $11.99)
Lukas 1862 retail: $87.50 (sale: $42.29)
I found both sets of paint comparable. I decided to investigate their lightfastness and both lines of paint had excellent or very good lightfast ratings on their paints. I will post links to the LUKAS info with light-fast/transparency/pigment compisition info below. Please note they use a sale of ***=excellent and **=very lightfast
The major difference between the lines is the 1862 has more colors. Also I reckon that the studio like must have more fillers to justify the price difference and I did see a bit more chalkiness on the black on some of the studio colors (magenta, viridian, cad yellow, cad red) but honestly not a lot. Also some of the colors between the sets were a bit different so maybe lesser expensive pigments were used on the studio version, for instance the 1862 lines uses real cadmium pigments in CAd. red and cad. yellow but those colors in the studio line are hues (synthetic replications of the pigments.) It does not worry me though with the high lightfast ratings. Upon further investigating I found that both the studio ad the 1862 lines use the same pigments except for the cadmium colors but the pigments used in the hues are the same as the pigments in permanent red and permanent yellow light in the 1862 line respectively.
Both of the LUKAS sets were more opaque than I prefer in a watercolor paint. If you look at the color charts I linked below you will see that few of the colors claim to be a truly transparent color, come are semi transparent, semi-opaque and opaque. You might prefer this, it is personal preference but I generally like a very transparent watercolor. Still, these are a great buy and the next time I need to order watercolors for a class I will buy the studios without hesitation.
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Lukas 1862 Artists watercolor:
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I would more than likely opt for the Studio set and then replenish as time goes by with the 1862 colors. Thanks for an in-depth review.
Hey Lindsay, i am soooo happy ypu finally did a review on these, i have lots of top notch brands and these may just be my favorite! My love affair with these started when my husband bought me the 72 count LUKAS 1862 aquarelle anniversary set in the wooden box! if anyone is on the fence about buying these, dont be they are AMAZING!
"La-di-da ... there I go ... painty-painty"
I can almost picture that. 😆😆
This was the best line of any art video ever.
I love Lukas 1862 watercolour paint!
I love the review videos. I always learn so much from you. I did not know to use black paper to test opacity. I find that helpful.
Finally the comparison I've been looking for! So very helpful! Thank you!
I bought the Lukas Studio set for a travel palette, and it is my favorite student grade palette! The colors are creamy and very pigmented. I just bought some of the 1862 tubes....maybe I shouldn't have!
I don´t know how lightfast all these colors are - but I´m thinking the study grade is realy not bad for beginners ...
you can have a lot fun with both lines because both palettes contains all what you need to create pretty artworks.
Hullo Lindsay, I love how your videos hold up even as time marches on! I just watched a watercolor comparison video and this video popped up in next and I thought I should get you some more minutes viewed for your channel too! Thank you for sharing your expertise and knowledge with your viewers, well done!
Glad you like them!
Thank you so much for your reviews Lindsay. I had to decide between the Lukas Studio and W&N Cotman set and prefer this. Wanted a set to play around with mixing colours so I don't waste my Schmincke while I'm still learning. Your videos are very informative. Great job x
Thanks for another great tutorial Lindsay.. I use the 1862 tubes to fill my pans.. and they are MUCH less expensive.. and have terrific properties as you have noted. Appreciate you Sis!
For student colors I put Cotman below Lukas or Van Gogh. And I also despise Chromium Green. I would have preferred another blue or yellow (cerulean or a warm transparent yellow like Indian yellow)
Loved your review....comparing both as genius. Marty Owens did a review on the 1862 that was really good too. I think I would get the studio set if I had to choose, didn't find enough of a difference in them. TFS
Phthalo Green and Viridian are totally separate colours. The former is an organic dye and comes in BS and YS flavours. The latter is a chromium hydroxide mineral pigment and is much more of a blue undertone. Oxide of Chromium Green is chromium oxide so very similar to Viridian but more green and less blue. It is very opaque as you say - but if one uses a lot of water it's fine - a drop of granulating medium and one can end up with a very similar effect to a good Ultramarine, just green.
+Rich Boden I think it's so cool that you can work both left-brained as a scientist & right-brained as an artist.
I have never had much luck with oxide of green chromium. It is a very dense color. I have never tried any medium with it though. I may try your suggestion.
+Adam Wallen Really dilute it down and put some flow enhancer into your water (dish soap...) or try gum Arabic with it - you can get some pretty effects painting en verdaille with it mixed with water to give tones. In acrylic it can be useful for opacifying green mixes - I made a lovely sage green out of Naples yellow and sap green to paint a the edge of a mixed media piece with but it just wouldn't cover it - a bit of OoC Green and it worked wonders and didn't change the shade too much.
+Joe Maysky I'm not sure if the two brain halves theory still holds up tbh but I feel totally unfulfilled if I cannot be creative - which is why a research career works well for me - but I have to be able to make things too.
I'm still considering a Ph.D. in the social sciences, but if I do I will NEED to make time for creativity. It's in my soul.
So glad the gentleman at my small art store recommended this studio set to me. I've been looking for a review/comparison of these for awhile and seeing this makes me even happier with my set.
I checked the lukas 1862 color chart for info on the artist ultramarine. Apparently they sell it in 2 versions, a light and a deep. Maybe the 1862 set has the light version, which looks a little cool biased.
Yes, the 1862 set uses Ultramarine light. I replaced it with the dark hoping to get darker darks but the difference isn’t that great. Well, I haven’t actuall’y painted a picture with it mixed in. I’ve just done swatches.
I am a beginning watercolor hobbyist(?) and I didn't really know which paint to buy, especially with a limited fun budget. I bought a LUKAS Studio watercolor set based on this review. I absolutely love them! They are perfect. Now my paints are better than my skill level and I didn't spend a ton. I can have a lot of fun trying to raise my skill level without feeling that my paint is holding me back. I certainly feel that this is a great beginner set. Thank you so much.
The travel set is less than 12 dollars at Jerry's currently. Awesome deal! I bought the more expensive metal box set and love the metal box too. Love it!
+Debbie S yay! The are great, I wish I had tried them before buying the cotman sketcher boxes for my library students because they are such a great value and nearly as good as the pro range. Happy painting;)
Hi Lyndsey
Found your review to be very informative. So much so that I went to the links to further investigate. The only 1862 set I could find contains the dreaded white and black pans. Ugh! Can you provide the item numbers that you reviewed because like you, a big no thanks to those two pans. And I'm curious as to what color pans you would pick instead of any of the standards that are included in this set (besides the ever-popular sap green.) Thanks to you and love ALL of your videos. Can't get enough of your watercolors especially your live shows.
Lindsay, I love your comparison reviews...you've saved me lots of time and money! I'm not an artist by any means, but for what I do and the price differential I'd go with the student grade...I (at least on the computer screen) don't see enough difference to justify the price jump.
+rufus1931 and both lines are extremely lightfast so you have noting to lose if you create a masterpiece with the student set:)
Thank you for y first laugh of the morning.
I have purchased the empty pan and glued pieces of magnet on the bottom and use a metal box to hold them. I can lift them out of order when using them and then put them back when done.
I'm happy that the student grade watercolors stand up to the professional grade because I recently bought those when they went on sale at Jerry's and I'm using them right now as I was watching your video. I don't know much about watercolors, but thank you for making this video. You made me feel even better about my impulse buy (I have a terrible addiction to buying art supplies without consulting my budget), and I intend to make the most out of them and actually attempt to learn how to use watercolors.
Wow some great colors here.that cyan is my favorite out of these collections. The Viridian looks like a forest green to me, but that may be because it's onscreen? I love swatch videos, I actually learn quite a bit about colors and application that way. It's interesting too how different manufacturers produce different hues of the same colors. I agree so much with not appreciating when manufacturers using cutesy names for paint colors. Because if you run out and need to get more, you end up wasting so much money trying to find a replacement.
I ended up inheriting a set of Cotman tubes, so I got a nice metal palette and some full pans, but after a while I decided to redo the palette with half pans and bought some additional colors to have a bigger color selection. I do need to learn color mixing but I also wanted a bigger selection to run with. In my area at the time, that was the cheapest option for me to give watercolors a go. I like a lot of the sets you have reviewed but I don't want to invest a lot of money until I know I'm going to enjoy the medium and use it often enough to warrant the expense. I do have some notes though for half pans done by other manufacturers, like this cyan and magenta if I can find them separately. I sometimes forget that I don't have to strictly use the same manufacturers as long the makeup of a different brand allows a good working relationship. Lol sounds goofy but can't think of a better way to say it. For instance I have the Bob Ross oils (first experience with oils) and some of Gary Jenkins own brand, and they both work well together. I ran out of white so bought a WN tube I found on sale, and that worked ok. So it is less expensive brands of paint, but as I'm a total beginner, I don't want to spend hundreds on paint if it's gonna sit there unused. If I really get into it, then I can look at pricier brands.
I also like the way you did your swatch with strips, it saves so much paper and cardstock. Thank you!
The studio set looks lovely! I have been looking for a cyan and magenta to add into my collection, and I may pick that set up since it has a few other colors my Cotman set does not have. And they did replace the chromium green with an olive green in the set I found, which maybe is a good thing? I am with you on not liking the more opaque colors, if that's what I was after I'd just use my gouache.
Thanks Lindsey. The review videos are pure gold! You know, for the money I really like the student grade . 😘 Have you done a Turner watercolor review? I don't see one specifically in the playlist. Maybe you did a tutorial painting in Turner?
I have done many paintings with Turner paints but I have not done a review per se. I should though as I've used them for years! I like them, great value for money. I don't care for their Mayan colors but the rest are great!
I would love to have your black and white paint collection because I love painting in greyscale. 💖😊
I use LUKAS acrylic paints the cheeper ones and don't know if I should get the artist ones next time. Has someone tried the acrylic paints before and knows which ones I should get?
do you use the "studio" or the even cheaper "terzia"? I like the studio and as far as I know the only artist grade acrylics by lukas are the "cryl pastos", which i haven't tried yet. If you looking for nice artist grade acrylics, which are still not too expensive, try the talens "amsterdam expert" , not the "amsterdam" without the expert ;) these are really nice.
just bought the Lukas studio palette from Jerry's! (its funny because my husbands name is Jere) I loved this review, crazy how similar they are. So worth it - only spent 15$ including shipping. So thank you so much! I hope youre sponsored by them !
In just got the studio set too, I might replace a few of the colors with the 1862 version.
Very cool! I'd buy either of the sets for travel. The Germans seem to know how to make great art supplies don't they-- Faber Castell, Schmincke, Lukas. Danke Deutschland! lol
I'm also eying this up as a travel set - but I love 24 colours for en plein air to cut mixing down a bit. Bit of a tough call!
+Rich Boden no burnt sienna is tough too, though I suppose a mix of red iron oxide and raw umber could match it closely
+Joe Maysky Yes - I like Raw Umber for muting down tints too and find it impossible to cope without a decent vivid purple (Cobalt Violet and Ultramarine Purple) or a true clean Cadmium Orange if I am doing botanicals. For seascapes en plein air I need Indanthrene Blue and Perylene Green, really.
***** I love W&N for quality and - down here - availability (we only have a tiny art shop in the city and then Hobbycraft of course - both stock it). I have got 55 of the 97 regular colours and I want to get the 12 limited editions (Twilight and Desert sets - you can still get both on Amazon). I use 24 colours for en plein air (I'd like to add some more greens, pinks etc to make mixing in the field much faster), which I really want to try more of this summer. The 24 I use the most are pictured here: www.the-spin-doctor.co.uk/2016/05/going-pro-moving-from-student-grade-to.html and a few palette set-up recommendations. I have a few really unusual colours I don't use a lot of - do you have Caput Mortuum or Potters' Pink btw? Do you find much to use them for? They don't mix into anything other than mud really.
***** PS: the columns on that image on that page should read Neutral, Yellow, Red, Blue, Green, Extra - I've now split "Extra" into a second set of greens and a set of purples and a set of oranges which makes 32 and that's the en plein air set I intend to use this year. The rows are (from top) Cool, Warm, Earth, Dark, as I see there to be 4 split primaries (etc), not 2.
The studioline comes also in a metal tin as the 1862 line but maybe its only available in germany.
I SO want to try these!! I'd probably go for the Student grade just because they're so similar and I'm a broke college student, haha! Thank you SO much for sharing! Very thorough watercolor review, loved it!
Is there information about the pigment content of each and How is there fugitive ratings? Very often fading is the difference between artists and students grade paints, not the apparent hue.
+Suzala Suzala yes, i linked the info PDFs on these paints below, the student grad lukas paints ARE as lightfast as the artists ones, the cadmiums are hues (the actually are the same pigments as permanent read and permanent yellow in the 1862 line and phthalo is used instead of a true viridian) but all are excellent or very good in lightfastness.
I always enjoy your watercolor swatching/reviews!
Thanks this was a great help. just saw that the tubes are on sale but didn't know anything about brand.
Am I the only one who likes Black? I usually paint Anime characters and some of them wear white clothing and for White, I use Grey as a shading colour. Black is really useful sometimes for me! :) (I usually paint AOT or Hetalia and most characters wear uniforms)
black is always great, no matter about which paints we're talking ;)
There's really no problem with using black, but a lot of people, myself included, prefer using different colors like purple or sometimes even brown to shade white because it looks less flat and makes a more consistent color palette, that is to say the shading and lighting is done with the same colors to make objects of different colors look like they're in the same environment.
I take out the black from my schmincke set and replace it with an Aquafine Sap green, to learn how to not use black in watercolor .
i like to have black in my palettes but i don’t use it a lot
Hi Lindsay, the black strips are a good idea, thanks. I'll buy some Lukas watercolor today but they look nice. Thank you for the review :)
I absolutely LOVE this review if for no other reason than the side-by-side swatch comparison. Would you ever consider doing side-by-side comparisons of individual colors across brands? Like comparing all the different ultramarine blues you have in various palettes, etc.?
Maybe, otto kane does that on her UA-cam channel
I got mine from jerry's too for 11 something close to twelve. I'm so glad they were cheep I've been wanting to try out gouache
These paints are vegan so no animal cruelty for these which is a BIG pro! Thanks for the review Lindsay!
I just Love you....."painty painty" Thanks for a great video!! Alice
What kind of watercolor paper do you use?
Hi! Could you add some videos where shows the classes to the kids that you said you teach? I have a little group and I'm learning different ways to teach art to kids 6-9 years old.
Love everything you do! Thanks so much!
Hello Lindsay, I wanted to ask what brush you were using, I truer looking in the description but I may have missed it. :)
Of all the artist grade watercolors, the 1862 are about the cheapest. The Soho watercolors that Jerry's sells are terrible. They make terribly muddy mixes, they dry out and crack in the palette, and they harden in the tube. The Lukas 1862 are very nice paints. I did find they were a little more opaque than some of the other artist grade paints. Nice review as always!
We don't get Lukas widely available in the UK but I want to try them now. For watercolour I only use W&N artist grade as I know what I'm getting and I trust them (even if I hate their almost brown gamboge...). I use student paints to practice techniques with and do studies - Cotman were my favourite but these look great. Royal & Langnickel Essentials are scarily good for £3.99 for a set of 12 with 2 decent brushes.
Try their transparent yellow. I have used it to pretty well replace the Gamboge, since it is now a mixed version. I love transparent yellow WN.
+Adam Wallen I moved to their Hansa Yellow (aka Winsor Yellow) as my main alternative but it isn't as warm as a gamboge should be really.
+Rich Boden can you get Da Vinci paints in the UK?
+Adam Wallen Not in big box stores. Amazon yes and in probably a few very specialist art stores. I tend to only buy what I know I can get in person rapidly - both shops in my city have W&N but only 40/90 colours so I buy the rest online.
Hi Lindsay I am looking at the Lukas 1862 and Jane Davenport which would you say is the better set quality wise.
Im new to watercolor and am looking for a quality student set. I would like to be able to do repeated glazes. I heard on the Sennelier la petite aquarelle review that they were good for this, but Im liking the colors in this Lukas studio set. Im wondering if they would perform just as well without lifting the layers underneath?
Since I am just starting to get into watercolor I would buy the artist Pallette of these paints even though the student one is cheaper. I have,already purchased some MGraham Paints separately so I would stick with the professional grade. Give me your advice on this. Also if I have purchased the Alizarin Crimson in the MGraham paint would I need to purchase the Quinacidome Rose paint? Please advise me on this. Dana
14:58 When I got my studio Lukas watercolors I was just looking for the cotman watercolors since I saw they were on sale at my nearby art store, HOWEVER they of course had run out so I wound up getting the Lukas ones which were cheaper than the other on sale so it's quite funny to hear you like those ones better.
yeah, I debated on ordering these when I had to outfit my local libraries watercolor class but I did not dare try them if they were bad and waste my libraries money. That siad I have use the pro paint a bit more and I honestly would recommend the student line still, they are very comparable, the only difference being the more expensive cadmium colors in the artist grade. Lightfastness if great on both.
Great video Lindsay, thanks!!! I have just gotten the studio set from the same place as you. 😉 I was wondering if there was any difference in sets. Jerry's does sell the half pans for the studio version, they are $2.99 a pan. I definitely really like these comparative reviews. 😆
+Valarie Connell I think the half pan artist (1862) start at $3.49 at jerrys too! I just filmed my tutorial for the new box, fun stuff!
+thefrugalcrafter Lindsay Weirich I look forward to the next video 😃 I could of sworn all of the 1862 pans were $3.49...I am going to have to check again. 😉 I have to say I was a little disappointed in what you are doing the video on. It seemed less then the value. Did you feel that way?
+Valarie Connell it depends, if you add the retail value of the box it would be about $40 then shipping (which is free in the US and priority mail) would be $50 so in that case yes but not if you bought the items on sale and knew what you wanted. I usually find that the contents of the box equal $40-$50 retail, of course they have to absorb shipping costs too so I think as far as art subscription boxes go this one is pretty fair. I would have rather a better/larger round brush and skip the flower palette personally tho:) I hope the Yupo isn't too challenging for beginners because it might turn someone off to watercolor as it is a really unusual paper.
+thefrugalcrafter Lindsay Weirich I was wrong! The $2.99 is for 10ml tubes no pans. Also, all (except for 7) of the 1862 half pans are $3.49, whole pans $4.69, and the 24ml tubes are $8.39...except for 7 of the expensive colors which are $10.99 (tubes). I will say that Lukas does have great prices and the quality seems great. Oh and the magenta that you love at least for the studio set is a 6-7 on the B.S. scale. None of their colors appear to be below this...so all are lightfast! 😃
Here is what Jerry's says the difference is between 1862 & studio: "The only difference between LUKAS Aquarell Studio watercolors and artists' grade paint is the use of high quality substitutes in place of some traditional (and often toxic) pigments". This was from their studio paints page
+Valarie Connell Cool! I was impressed with the studio set, did you use the kit yet?
I found these on CyberMonday sale at Jerry's and really love them.
Thank you for this review
What is the difference between student grade paint and artiest paints.
"la-dee-da, there you go, painty painty" I put this comment onto my wall. 😂💖
I love Lukas, but it's soooo hard find here in Brazil. 😞
Which one would you choose from: VanGoh (12), Lukas studio, Sonnet??
they are all great choices, the lukas studio it s atouch more opaque, the sonnett is most transparent. All are good, see what is the best value where you live:)
Lindsay............Thanks as always. You are so versatile. I always send newbies to you so that they can have a full experience of an art lesson or product.,.............Now, I just checked out the Jerry's set and the color names they use don't match what you were reading. Have they changed and Jerry's hasn't caught up? The black strip helped me see the color opacity beautifully.
+Judith A Rowland were the student or the 1862 colors different?
+thefrugalcrafter Lindsay Weirich . Hi Lindsay, They are the 1862. Look them up at Jerry's.
That was an excellent review. well done.
Thank you! So nice video!
Hi Lindsay! Just wanted you to know.. I got the small wc set, Lukas 1862, on your recommendation, from Jerry's who I had never bought from online before. .. I want you to know that their website is just great, and so are their prices. I got free shipping bc I spent a certain amount. AND, they included some freebies that I had looked at but didn't purchase. The Lukas set has just the right colors for travel. I do hope they're lightfast but, if not, well, I had fun!! Thx!! Lucille (Beadwyfe)
they are very lightfast, even the student line has good ratings. They really are a fantastic value!
Thanks. I researched them later and found a blogger (her name I forget) who tested them in the harsh sunlight of Phoenix... and they didn't change. I'm now testing their chroma against WN and Holbein, my (normally) fave colors. But it's not that important; it's a great little set.
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Totally off-topic, I'm playing with some colours I don't use often enough. Love Potters' Pink but I wasn't sure how well it mixes - ditto Caput Mortuum. The best use I found for the latter was muting down other colours in the same way adding Raw Umber works, giving an almost chalky tint. Potters' Pink I'm more stuck with (normally I don't even mix it) - wondered if you'd ever found a use for either of them other than "as is"?
+Rich Boden I don't have that color. Sounds like it might be a nice flesh tone.
+thefrugalcrafter Lindsay Weirich It's much more like a cement-y pink and very, very granulating. If you mix it with Naples Yellow for example you can end up with pink granules on a yellow ground as it separates out when it granulates. If you mix well it looks great though and makes warm, creamy oranges/beiges but too granular to be of much use. Caput Mortuum is beautifully dark - it is just iron oxide but big grains so it is almost burgundy and very dense and granular.
I would buy the student set for 12 dollars if lightfast ratings are not much different and I was in USA. The 1862 cyan actually looks more chalky on camera than the student version!
+Kyomii Brown the light fast is the same, there are a couple colors that use a hue rather than puigment but other than that they are very similar!
Great video thanks for uploading this!
Btw, the student grade ones look more like a "gel" then the artists grade
well, they are going to have more extenders to keep the price down, currently the student set is on sale for $10 and the artists for $25 a 12 halfpan set, not a bad buy either way. Buy you will get more of that gel feeling on a student grade, an upside is that the student grade paints will lift better if you make a mistake when painting.
thefrugalcrafter Lindsay Weirich Cool,good to know. Thanks :D
La-di-da, there you go. Painty, painty 😁. Amused me.
Lol i just got a cotman set a few days ago... If only i seen this first ..anyway....Lindsey do you think you would start doing some "watercolor school" for us beginners like you do with your stamp school vids??? Id love to see some very easy step by step paintings to do
+Sydney Doe good idea, I'll think about it!
Awesome
Thanks for your informative videos.
If I was interested in the Jane Davenport brights or the Prima Marketing Classics, would this Lukas studio be a better choice of all three?
+Katrianna Rezende I think so because the colors are just as vibrant and more lightfast. Prima dies not list pigments, Jane does and many of her pigments are fugitive. But her teal and gold time sucked me in lol;)
Thanks for your quick response! Hmm I'm new to this whole watercolor world (your stuff is BEAUTIFUL by the way!) fugitive means the lightfastness isn't high? lol
Lindsay, maybe you could give me some advice on my next watercolor purchases! I bought a cotman 48 half pan set, which I am loving so far, and as my colors run low, I will start replacing them with artist grade watercolors. I am starting to discover that I really love highly transparent yet very vivid colors. I am looking at the tubes of Schminke, Daniel Smith and Maimeriblu, to fill my empty half pans with. Considering transparency and vivid colors, could you recommend one?
+Tessa Reed I have used the Merimi Blu and they are great, I have not tried the others but I don't think you can go wrong, they are all good brands
+Tessa Reed I have used the Schminke and DS, both are really lovely and wet up easily. Get whichever is easiest for you to replace.
Thanks for the review.
I always found it funny that Lukas calls that red English Red while almost all of the other brands call it Indian Red. Both are nicer than I expected though.
I did check this out a while ago and technically they are separate colours (as is Venetian Red) but all 3 generally seen identical to me ;)
Rich Boden as you said you are a chemist also i wanna know from you if u have ever done any research about indian/tibetan paints?
Thank you!
I find it funny that their cadmium red light is in fact PO20 - O for orange.
I like mixing primary colors in cool, and warm groups- 6 colors to make many.
Orange is not a primary so... substitute Lucas 1862 with another " real " red cad.light. I add honey to the Lucas when I fill pallets.
If anyone is looking for a single pigment paint, I recommend Mijello's Pure Pigment line, 26 single pigments to make a clean 54 color palett.
thanks lindsay, very informative
Have you used water soluble oil paint? If so what is your opinion?
It depends, I really like the lukas Berlin line and honestly the inexpensive Reeves brand was pretty good. The first time I tried wm oils I got the winsor and newton artisan line and I hated them. They will thin and kinda streaky and gummy. The Lukas Berlin is buttery and smooth, just like traditional.
@@thefrugalcrafter thank you. I've heard that before about N&W wm oils. Again, ty
Super helpful. Thanks!
love the review videos!
...you can't carry grudges on colours, yo :) -- thank you for the comparison. Will source out the tin version
what does granulation mean? sorry if this is a stupid question?
+Lisa T not stupid at all:) it means the paint dries with a splotchy texture in stead of a smooth one.
Honestly, I can't imagine why anyone would buy artist professional grade paints anymore. Student grades are amazing now and no one is selling original works of art. Everyone is making money off UA-cam. They get paid thousands to paint it. Then get paid again to sell little prints of it. The original peice never sees sunlight. Artists whom are selling their originals aren't on social media because they are way too busy and profitable to be selling stickers to children. That isn't a knock on youtubers. It's just the truth.
Your not wrong...
What would you consider the best paint if lightfastness wasn’t a factor? Honestly, I have been using crayola marker as watercolor for ages and I’d really like a true paint vibrant alternative.
@@jendubay3782 if you like using Crayola then by golly use it. Don't let anyone tell you different. The important thing is that you improving your drawing skills. If you are looking for inexpensive watercolor paint with high vibrancy art whale is a good choice and so too camlin kokuyo artist grade watercolors from India. The art whale paints I purchased for 24 15ml tubes for $10.59 USD. The camlin I purchased 24 tubes for $9.00. The second time for $11 USD. I purchased both while on sale and was extremely impressed with both. Which is saying a great deal since I was strictly winsor & Newton until Daniel smith hit the market. Then I've been strictly Daniel smith. That was until this whole scanning and selling prints business became popular. Now one need not spend so much. Which makes for happier customers. That's just my opinion however. I'm sure everyone you ask will have their opinions as well. Just remember, keep arting. That's more important than the materials you use. In my opinion anyway.
@@phillipstroll7385 thank you for the detailed answer. Yeah, I like the crayola- but only because I like the large variety of colors on a tight budget. And clearly, these paints are also those things. I have been long been thinking why bother buying expensive artist grade if I don’t care about lightfastness, and then I saw your comment and figured you might know where to start looking. Thank you!
@@jendubay3782 anytime. The frugal crafter knows way more about watercolor than I do, for sure, but in my opinion those two products are a great place to start. I don't know any other brands where you'll get more for less.
Thank you 🤗
exactly what I was looking for, thanks, now im getting the cheap one, is 12 us dollars in my contry, good video
+Juan Morales enjoy!
thanks, literally I just got back from the store, lol
Love love loved this...thanks.
No rush to answer me as I know you are trying to recover from being sick. When you are up to it, do you know how I find out what the pigments are for the 24 set of colors here? I’m not sure if you ever got around to getting the 24 set and the box I just received only has the pigment names. It’s a pretty “no-frill” package! Lol
If you go to Jerry's Artarama and click the note icon next to the product it should have the info if available.
@@thefrugalcrafter I tried that but it just gave the shades. Not the pigments. I’ll keep digging, thanks Lindsay! 🥰
@@thefrugalcrafter oh, I found it! Yay, thank you! Even sick you’re a lifesaver. 😘😷
I have the 16 color lukas aquarell studio how come the website says it's artist grade?
+Alex serra huh. Maybe because it is a solid lightfastness brand? The studio is nice and quite similar to Lukas 1862 but "artists" is a loosey-goosy term that can be put on any paint regardless of quality.
thefrugalcrafter Lindsay Weirich thank you...i figured as much. would you say it's worth grabbing the 1862 as well or waiting until I run out? Or would you invest in another paint all together? maybe your favorite m Graham? ;)
I recommend try a tube from all the companies you are considering (get different colors though as they all work together:)
very helpful Shann
Great review!
Thanks!
what does fugitive colours mean? and also if something is a hue is that a bad thing. I'm not understanding the lingo. thanks Lindsay!
+kim ryan A fugitive color is one of very low lightfastness, which technically just means, the pigment in the paint will fade or discolor very fast. For example, Alizarin Crimson PR83 (Pigment red 83) is a fugitive pigment. It will fade terribly within 300 hours of sunlight. most lightfast paints can withstand 800+ hours of sunlight with relatively small change, or even none at all. A hue is typically a paint made with several pigments to make a near match of a single pigment paint. For example, Winsor and newton cotman Cobalt blue hue is a mix of 2 pigments PB29 (Ultramarine blue, likely a green shade) and PW5 (Chinese white)It's not nessecarily bad, but single pigment paints are preferred by many artists. Generally as well, the more pigments in a mixture, the less lightfast, even if it is marginal change. Some pigment mixtures degrade themselves more than others. I cannot profess to know which combinations do this.. However there are two which are known to me. PV19 (Quinacridone rose) And Ultramarine Blue (PB29) Are two lightfast pigments, but when mixed they lose a lot of their integrity as a lightfast mixture. Also, do not mix any cadmiums (PR108 Cadmium red, PO20 Cadmium Orange & PY35 Cadmium Yellow) with Iron oxides ( PBr7 Raw & Burnt sienna, as well as raw and burnt umber & PR101 venetian red, indian red, transparent red, transparent brown,) This is because cadmium darkens in the presence of iron based paints. For that matter, do not mix cadmiums with Prussian blue ( PB27) It is also an iron based pigment. handprint.com/HP/WCL/waterfs.html This site is a wonderful resource for watercolor topics in general, but this section will show you all about pigments, listed by Pigment Color Index names, marketing names, and chemical names. The most reliable way to find a paint is the Color Index Name. Marketing names can often be nonsense made up of marketing romance, and will not tell you what is in your paint.
+AntiFormKeyblade thank you so much for taking the time to give such an informative response. I really appreciate it.in thinking of the Daniel smith natural rock/mineral pigments because I fell in love with the process of how they are made. as well as how beautiful and unique they look. I love their granulation. I know they are called something different bit it evades me right now. will probably pop into my head the minute I post this. lol. anyway, truly, that is a great answer!
kim ryan
Ah are you reffering to the primatek line? Handprint does have a review of those incidentally enough! I hope it is of help to you handprint.com/HP/WCL/primatek.html
In any case! I'm glad it was of help. Good luck to you in the future, and may you improve on your practice of this most wonderful medium.
Oh I also forgot to include PY 42 & PY 43 (Natural and synthetic yellow iron oxides respectably) They also affect the cadmiums. See here in this section, if you click on the right hand side of the page to get to the cadmiums, and the iron pigments www.handprint.com/HP/WCL/pigmt1b.html#cadmium The Iron pigment section will list the various pigments which fall under this category, and the cadmium section will explain shortly not to mix Cadmiums and iron or (Now no longer manufactured lead pigments)
Be a little careful - something not being "lightfast" and having a low rating for it doesn't make it fugitive - fugitive comes from "that which disappears" in Latin (just like the other meaning of the word!) but some non-lightfast colours don't fade: they change colour. Some (true Prussian Blue is one) change colour in sunlight but revert back when in dim light, so whilst they would not call that lightfast, it isn't truly fugitive in the stricter sense - so always find out what light does to a paint if it isn't lightfast - you may be able to live with it. Opera Rose has a pigment in it as well as a fluorescent dye (Rhodamine B) which they don't always list as a pigment on the tube. The Rhodamine is fugitive but the main pigment isn't - so it does lose the vivid brightness but the general pink stays behind - that's one example of where you might want to still use it.
Rich Boden
You are correct, not being considered to be permanent or "Very good-Excellent" in lightfastness does not make it fugitive. But I did not say all impermanent paints were fugitive, I said a highly impermanent paint "Like alizarin crimson" are considered fugitive. A rating of 8 and 7 are Category (I) Excellent, 6 is Category (II) Very good, 4 & 5 are impermanent at category (III) or "Fair" Poor is categorie (IV) Where we reach fugitive with 3 & 2 ratings. Finally with A 1 in ratings, we are still at fugitive, Category (V) Very poor. Under this section you will find the blue wool scale and categories www.handprint.com/HP/WCL/pigmt6.html#lightfast
While the roots of the word may be fading, please take note in art supplies this definition is extended to "Change" in general, whether it be fading, discoloration or other. Lightfast pigments will "Remain unchanged" For example PR106 does not technically fade, instead it begins to take on a blackened appearance (Losing Chroma) within two weeks. It does not lighten in value and fade, but it does change, and it is still considered fugitive. handprint.com/HP/WCL/waterr.html#PR106
As far as is known, the change of PB27 in strong sunlight, and reverting in dim conditions is myth passed down and made reputable. www.handprint.com/HP/WCL/pigmt1b.html#iron (See iron blue) handprint.com/HP/WCL/waterb.html#PB27 It is shown in some samples there is clear fading, and I don't think they changed back as they were taken back indoors (To dim light) for the scans to be taken. I myself have taken out a swatch of PB27 on a strongly lit day (Easy because the state I live in is practically a desert) and it did not have this immediate change, or change back exposed to light, and then dull conditions. If you try it yourself I'm sure you'll see it as well.
Finally while you are correct, the artist can assess what is acceptable "Change" in their paint or not, it is important for them to know about it in the first place,
As shown in the sample of "Opera" handprint.com/HP/WCL/waterc.html#PR122 PR122 + BV10, it did not just lose chroma showing the original pigment as the dye faded, it lightened and faded while losing the chroma boost from the dye, especially in tints. Generally, a mixture is only as permanent as the least lightfast addition to it, sometimes even less, as I mentioned earlier in the case of mixtures of PB29 + PV19 handprint.com/HP/WCL/waterv.html#PV49 Scroll down a little bit to reach the convenience mixtures of PB29 & PV19. It's not just the blue or the red that fades in this mixture, theres not a noticeable hue shift as it changes, it simply fades together.
in Germany they are less expensive, the left one 15€ and the right one only 10€
wow, great deals!
here in el salvador $34 (metalic black) and $12 (plastic white) US dollars
Given it would be a domestic product, it certainly would go for cheaper prices than selling it overseas like here in the states!
My god! Here in Brazil it’s R$1300,00, it’s like $320,00/ €285,00. Everything here is so expensive...
Nope. The student grade is around that price yes, but the 1862 is more expensive here in Germany, too. One of the cheapest places for getting supplies in Germany is Gerstaecker or kreativ.de (which belongs to Gerstaecker as well) , and they don´t currently have the 1862 in 12 half pans, only in 16, but the 16 half pan set in the metal box costs 57,98Euro. Interestingly, you will save big if you buy the 24 set because you can have that for 68,53Euro, which is a wicked deal when compared to the 16 set. If you buy single half pans, the 1862 will vary between 3,31 and 4,89 per color, most of them being on the lower side of that. Just thought I´d mention it because we ARE lucky here when it comes to the pricing of many art supplies, as many of them are made here or in our neighbouring countries, but we are not THAT lucky. Artist grade watercolors for 15Euro? Who would be buying the student grade then? 😉
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Thank you very muchh ♡♡♡♡
Popping on over to Amazon…
for some bizarre reason all your videos i liked through the years disappeared from my liked and playlists. youtube getting stranger by the day. the mind of watercolor and several others as well...
Oh no, did you recently clear your history?
give me the black you dont use, bc i use all the time hahahahahaha very good reviw ^^
helpful!
Sorry, too much talk, actually very hyper and fast, can make one anxious especially in these times, we need more calming not super hyper. This is not calming at all, even if the reviews are great, but a little more toned down would be a lot more pleasant.sorry
hi 2ad
Bravissima!
You speak too quickly.
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Thanks for the review.