Cobie is such a great guest for ep 💯- great podcast I think, as per classic Cobie fashion, he undersells himself - I think he’s more than just a leaf in the narrative’s wind. I feel like in the crypto narrative market, bankless are narrative sellers and cobie is a narrative buyer. It made me realize during the debate about decentralization that bankless wouldnt buy Cobies thesis that things tend toward decentralization but rather sells their brand of decentralization because they are narrative sellers. But, staying open minded is keeping things open source is decentralization is Cobie bayesian buying which narratives are gaining traction. Definitely a yin to a yang sort of situation and more than anything I think more conversations should be at the intersection of narrative supply and demand. Looking forward to the next one!
I’m a fan of decentralization and, at the same time, I appreciate the fact that Cobie is willing to speak candidly about the tradeoffs among the various networks. We are still so very early.
1:26:00 is so crazy to hear now. Literally names all the scammers as the richest people when in reality they were a house of cards. Cobie is a light amongst the darkness for crypto, truly. Wish I could buy the guy a beer.
It's very educational and at the same time the most hilarious Bankless youtube ever watched. I like how straight forward this interview went throughout with Cobie and lots of laugh with his comments.
The emphasis on values and decentralization is what makes Bankless more than just crypto UA-camrs. It’s not about pumping bags or whatever. It’s about preserving and protecting this incredible new freedom we have.
Guys! Best one yet…the weight of wealth… personality changes in family because of magic numbers on the screen changing…I am speechless and gutted and touched on the deepest level because I see this in my family as well
good interview. The bit in the beginning about having to sell off too early really hit home. I got in not too long after Cobie, the same month as the guy who bought the $69m NFT. I've had to sell off 95%, then trade it up, then sell off again.. it's a horrible feeling to press the sell button on something you *know* is going up. At least I had money when I needed it, and I'm still in the game, but damn I would have been ballin. One thing is for sure though: I'm a better trader now, having to keep on finding more gems, than if I just bought some bitcoin and held it all this time.
I really enjoyed this discussion and am 100% on board your description of layer zero. I agree that our individual choices do matter in bringing forth a world and a system we desire. And Cobie was understating his possible impact.
Ryan's layer 0 rant was amazing, and you are right, I learned about these values from Bitcoin and the way the economy works but also from you guys, spreading the message and piecing it all together in carefully selected words is something you do very well, Cobie is an incredible person too and is right in the way he thinks too!
I respect your opinion, not aimed at starting a fight. I think that rant glosses over what Cobie said: most people in crypto don't care about the philosophy of defi, they want to find a way out of financial struggle. I don't care if the project I am buying is perfectly decentralized I want to make enough money to afford to live. ETH is too expensive to use ordinary people can't afford to use it. I invested heavily into an alt this year and I did a lot better than I would have buying ETH. Now I have enough to feel comfortable with whether I or my fiance might lose our jobs if the market collapses. I don't have the luxury of caring about the principles of the ecosystem. Also comes across as very arrogant, they overinflate their role in crypto suggesting they are akin to founding fathers. I don't want to listen to anyone who thinks that highly of themselves, I fear their ideology is going to send me toward financial ruin if I follow them.
@@K0sm1cKid the point is that all of this has to mean something. If decentralisation doesn't matter, it is inevitable for crypto to be over. Sure, you can make money in short term, but in the long term, I won't feel comfortable holding crypto if it's value isn't resonating
Such an AMAZING piece of content! Crypto is unstoppable at this point it's just a matter of time till everyone joins the space! Remember to LIKE this clip, Bankless Buddies!
When it comes to decentralization, client diversity is a critical puzzle piece. The sheer amount of effort and man hours behind the client diversity of Ethereum are what set it miles apart from the rest and make it very difficult for others to catch up to. That's why there is no real Ethereum killer, however there is room for other chains to occupy the rest of the decentralization spectrum. wagmi, with ethereum occupying imo the most important position in the space, due to decentralization being the critical attribute separating blockchains from centralized databases.
After acquiring fabulous wealth "What do you do with life?" This question is interesting. I have a very easy answer that requires no consideration. When I'm wealthy, I'll have a blast just doing good for complete stangers. Travel the globe performing random acts of kindness for people who need a break, or just to smile 🙂 I can't imagine a more fulfilling life!
Cobie trying to tell these dudes they're eth maxis and need to chill, haha. They keep chiming about decentralization and how these chains are centralized but they don't seem to have the awareness to see all chains start centralized and it takes years for things to spread out. They're maxis but use 'decentralization' as a sort of buzzword or concept to reinforce their bias and make it seem like they care about some big important thing. Arbitrum is great, but these other chains are not. Ok sure.
Man these 100 percent bets 1)We all have 3lb couple clicks above apes gobs of goo we call brains 2) Even with perfect knowledge of current market state aka God, is the market outcome deterministic or still probabilistic/“quantum”? Go back in time machine and run each scenario 1000 times, does say btc beat bch in each path? Does Eth beat etc in each path?
Agree with Cobie, retail don't need Bankless types with their condescending attitude of protecting retail folks cause they are just too dumb and naive to make decisions. We're adults, we don't need protection. We need a fair playing field against VC's and insiders who get a chance to buy in early while retail don't. We need good regulation, but of course that won't ever happen. We'll get bad stifling regulation cause regulators have the same attitude as Bankless... condescending and paternalistic.
The reason you guys get shit is because the concept of going bankless isn't dependent on one chain. No one would care if you don't talk about other chains if this podcast was What Ethereum Did or Decentralized Only, but I guess most people just came here expecting discussion of "unbanking yourself", not "unbanking yourself on Ethereum".
Pulse is going to roll a lot of chumps that think they are doing good by ignoring it. (btw if it is a founder cash grab it will not launch. the founder has no strings attached ~$2B from sac phases he can walk with right now)
I don’t. They (in particular d.hoff )pretended to not know Dani. You can’t be a podcast dedicated to the eth space with segments on defi and not known. Pls explain?
@@Bankless, you could have also justified this double standard saying that PolygON kind of rhymes with milliON validators. Same unreasonale logic would apply. Please increase the rate of bubble popping.
1st time watcher. Do these guys not realize that ethereum is not and has never been “decentralized” and may still be declared a security as per the SEC. Great interview but it’s heartbreaking to see how little they know about Ethereum /JP Morgan.
Hey isn’t that the guy who’s a big fan of Cardano and SUNDAESWAP and wants to secretly leave ethereum but nobody actually gives a fk about him in the car Dani community?
Not in token distribution (only 20% released to public). Not in tech either they are literally holding a patent and would go after individuals if they tried to fork them.
You guys helped bring the best out of Cobie - well done all ‘round.
Cobie is such a great guest for ep 💯- great podcast
I think, as per classic Cobie fashion, he undersells himself - I think he’s more than just a leaf in the narrative’s wind.
I feel like in the crypto narrative market, bankless are narrative sellers and cobie is a narrative buyer.
It made me realize during the debate about decentralization that bankless wouldnt buy Cobies thesis that things tend toward decentralization but rather sells their brand of decentralization because they are narrative sellers.
But, staying open minded is keeping things open source is decentralization is Cobie bayesian buying which narratives are gaining traction.
Definitely a yin to a yang sort of situation and more than anything I think more conversations should be at the intersection of narrative supply and demand.
Looking forward to the next one!
I’m a fan of decentralization and, at the same time, I appreciate the fact that Cobie is willing to speak candidly about the tradeoffs among the various networks. We are still so very early.
1:26:00 is so crazy to hear now. Literally names all the scammers as the richest people when in reality they were a house of cards. Cobie is a light amongst the darkness for crypto, truly. Wish I could buy the guy a beer.
It's very educational and at the same time the most hilarious Bankless youtube ever watched. I like how straight forward this interview went throughout with Cobie and lots of laugh with his comments.
The emphasis on values and decentralization is what makes Bankless more than just crypto UA-camrs. It’s not about pumping bags or whatever. It’s about preserving and protecting this incredible new freedom we have.
Guys! Best one yet…the weight of wealth… personality changes in family because of magic numbers on the screen changing…I am speechless and gutted and touched on the deepest level because I see this in my family as well
good interview. The bit in the beginning about having to sell off too early really hit home. I got in not too long after Cobie, the same month as the guy who bought the $69m NFT. I've had to sell off 95%, then trade it up, then sell off again.. it's a horrible feeling to press the sell button on something you *know* is going up. At least I had money when I needed it, and I'm still in the game, but damn I would have been ballin. One thing is for sure though: I'm a better trader now, having to keep on finding more gems, than if I just bought some bitcoin and held it all this time.
great great episode, love it guys!
Boss. Thank You Bankless team and Cobie!
I really enjoyed this discussion and am 100% on board your description of layer zero. I agree that our individual choices do matter in bringing forth a world and a system we desire. And Cobie was understating his possible impact.
Ryan's layer 0 rant was amazing, and you are right, I learned about these values from Bitcoin and the way the economy works but also from you guys, spreading the message and piecing it all together in carefully selected words is something you do very well, Cobie is an incredible person too and is right in the way he thinks too!
I respect your opinion, not aimed at starting a fight. I think that rant glosses over what Cobie said: most people in crypto don't care about the philosophy of defi, they want to find a way out of financial struggle. I don't care if the project I am buying is perfectly decentralized I want to make enough money to afford to live. ETH is too expensive to use ordinary people can't afford to use it. I invested heavily into an alt this year and I did a lot better than I would have buying ETH. Now I have enough to feel comfortable with whether I or my fiance might lose our jobs if the market collapses. I don't have the luxury of caring about the principles of the ecosystem. Also comes across as very arrogant, they overinflate their role in crypto suggesting they are akin to founding fathers. I don't want to listen to anyone who thinks that highly of themselves, I fear their ideology is going to send me toward financial ruin if I follow them.
@@K0sm1cKid the point is that all of this has to mean something. If decentralisation doesn't matter, it is inevitable for crypto to be over.
Sure, you can make money in short term, but in the long term, I won't feel comfortable holding crypto if it's value isn't resonating
You guys have inspired me to get back into the daily Gwei
One of the best episodes I've watched!!!
Cobain is spot on! Bankless shill ethereum too much, not wrong to have a focus and a stand. But it just feel limited
someone should shill my bags also
if you like descentralization, you should speak more about bitcoin my friend
What a fucking fantastic conversation.
Cobie is the crypto godfather boys
Such a great episode. I can feel the passion
Great stuff!!.
Super interesting conversation-perspective.
Can't wait for the next visit
Well done guys..great interview. One of your best.
Regardless of opinions and taking sides, it was a respectful conversation :)
Great video, thank you.
An excellent point made at 27:30. I feel the same.
Take care everyone.
Such an AMAZING piece of content! Crypto is unstoppable at this point it's just a matter of time till everyone joins the space! Remember to LIKE this clip, Bankless Buddies!
Cobie is king! So happy to jumped on. Wish Ledger was here to enjoy this.
Remember when you tried to bully a developer into coming on Bankless by asking for a 250k donation? I memba. Here for cobie though
Backstory?
He dropped that and never explained. What a shame. But it is crazy how eth maxi this show has become
This was a great listen!
another beauty of an episode!
Toxic Tribal Trap-- nice use of alliteration. ..its got a ring to it.
I wish someone would look at me the same way cobie looks at his ceiling
These guys are tool boxes
At times
That three arrows call though... 🤯
i love cobie. thank you guys!
the best episode so far
this was the top signal
Fishing scam bots 🚨, @bankless sign of mainstream attention.
Now after the Luna Disaster crashing crypto markets many need to see this episode. Especially those that lost $ in Luna
Saylor is on the chaotic spectrum for sure :D Probably chaotic good
😂 14:51 Bankless.. we hate banks… yup 😂
When it comes to decentralization, client diversity is a critical puzzle piece. The sheer amount of effort and man hours behind the client diversity of Ethereum are what set it miles apart from the rest and make it very difficult for others to catch up to. That's why there is no real Ethereum killer, however there is room for other chains to occupy the rest of the decentralization spectrum. wagmi, with ethereum occupying imo the most important position in the space, due to decentralization being the critical attribute separating blockchains from centralized databases.
Awesome thanks
Anyone know what episode of bankless they are referring to at 1:31:07? It’s an episode about how money is just a points system
Great show. Much thanks Gentlemen.
After acquiring fabulous wealth "What do you do with life?"
This question is interesting. I have a very easy answer that requires no consideration. When I'm wealthy, I'll have a blast just doing good for complete stangers. Travel the globe performing random acts of kindness for people who need a break, or just to smile 🙂
I can't imagine a more fulfilling life!
The best episode for me
politicians vs investor
Im very hyped for this
Copies describing my experience exactly. Thank you.
Cobie giggles at 1.25 speed 😂😂😂
35:10 being new to the podcast, just discovering those two hosts are hard ETH maxis 😂
They are trying to manipulate Cobie to do the same 🤣🤣🤣🤣
1:34:30
Wen Dani
How does proof-of-stake not reach centralization in the long run?
Great podcast. Very pragmatic
Cobie trying to tell these dudes they're eth maxis and need to chill, haha. They keep chiming about decentralization and how these chains are centralized but they don't seem to have the awareness to see all chains start centralized and it takes years for things to spread out. They're maxis but use 'decentralization' as a sort of buzzword or concept to reinforce their bias and make it seem like they care about some big important thing. Arbitrum is great, but these other chains are not. Ok sure.
Should have had ledger on for some coherent thoughts on the blockchain
What about FiPi?
🎉 Happy 100th Episode 🎉
Man these 100 percent bets
1)We all have 3lb couple clicks above apes gobs of goo we call brains
2) Even with perfect knowledge of current market state aka God, is the market outcome deterministic or still probabilistic/“quantum”?
Go back in time machine and run each scenario 1000 times, does say btc beat bch in each path? Does Eth beat etc in each path?
Agree with Cobie, retail don't need Bankless types with their condescending attitude of protecting retail folks cause they are just too dumb and naive to make decisions. We're adults, we don't need protection. We need a fair playing field against VC's and insiders who get a chance to buy in early while retail don't. We need good regulation, but of course that won't ever happen. We'll get bad stifling regulation cause regulators have the same attitude as Bankless... condescending and paternalistic.
I wish I saw this 2 years ago
Why is the glasses nerd talking more than cobie? Chill it with the boilerplate pompous expounding and just let cobie talk
No one cares about what you think not gonna lie
@@dbrdbrodeo6003 simp harder, I promise they’ll notice you
@@libero5684 still don’t care about what you think not gonna lie
Finally
Starts at 6:15
Skip these two saying nothing and shilling uniswap :) your welcome
Zooko is a good guy
$CRV undervalued
Wow 🤩
The reason you guys get shit is because the concept of going bankless isn't dependent on one chain. No one would care if you don't talk about other chains if this podcast was What Ethereum Did or Decentralized Only, but I guess most people just came here expecting discussion of "unbanking yourself", not "unbanking yourself on Ethereum".
More bankless... or less bankful?
Pulse is going to roll a lot of chumps that think they are doing good by ignoring it.
(btw if it is a founder cash grab it will not launch. the founder has no strings attached ~$2B from sac phases he can walk with right now)
Now I understand the beef with Dani a bit more, Sifu is voted head of treasury by the community so technically it's decentralized, no? #time
I don’t. They (in particular d.hoff )pretended to not know Dani. You can’t be a podcast dedicated to the eth space with segments on defi and not known. Pls explain?
??? Kobe been in crypto since 2022, what he’s been doing since 2022 🙆🏻♀️
Confused
"Cobie, fka Crypto Cobain"
fka -> aka
Formerly known as
Ah, Cobie~ the bearded cryptogirl.
how decentralized is Polygon? cut the crap bankless
It has an economic anchor on Ethereum so it partially taps into Ethereum's level of decentralization
@@Bankless, you could have also justified this double standard saying that PolygON kind of rhymes with milliON validators.
Same unreasonale logic would apply.
Please increase the rate of bubble popping.
When are you going to start talking about DIAMOND BANK DAO ? Their team seems legit, I might finally get the lambo! :)
1 Like for every time Cobie looks at his ceiling.
On average Billionaires talking about giving it all away = PR
1st time watcher. Do these guys not realize that ethereum is not and has never been “decentralized” and may still be declared a security as per the SEC. Great interview but it’s heartbreaking to see how little they know about Ethereum /JP Morgan.
Great content but TOO MANY adds. Chill fam'
gm
"does wealth weigh on you?" xD
You dont seem like you are for decentralization, as much as you are for Ethereum. Yall def are a ETH Maxi. yall hate on BTC all the time.
Hello
Eth maxi says chain maxi is a trap 😂🤡
I love Ryan, but during his speech he’s quite literally frothing at the mouth
Ready to moon AmpleSwap Token
Hey isn’t that the guy who’s a big fan of Cardano and SUNDAESWAP and wants to secretly leave ethereum but nobody actually gives a fk about him in the car Dani community?
LTC would also survive an attack
3 Arrows no longer True Neutral...
to survive in crypto u just need have some crypto, if u not sure which coin, just buy bunch different ones
Seriously seeing so much FUD around ETH and XRP (i.e if XRP succeeds) ETH will fail. Any thoughts on this?
What does the N on his hat stand for?
Interesting but would have preferred a shorter format, two hours is rather extreme.
Avalanche decentralized
Not in token distribution (only 20% released to public). Not in tech either they are literally holding a patent and would go after individuals if they tried to fork them.
Corona virus vaccin 🤣🤣🤣
😂
LMAO.. did you guys really compare yourselves to the founding fathers?
“profit maximalist” hehheh
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