I always find it odd, watching reviews where the author puts in 100 times more effort (and thought) into the review than the team of "writers" put into the original product....
He didn't. And no, you just don't get it. I was rrwatching Episode 8 of last season and the details that went into it is more than you can ever think of in your lifetime
@@mattteomatei3610 Could you list several of those details? Must be nice to be able to find good things in such a dumpster fire of a show, honestly. It takes an insanely positive outlook to be able to ignore all the subhuman, negative IQ writing and direction.
@@pepincuatro2865 It just seems bad on a first watch but I hope you have a second watch and you'll notice a lot of details, was just noticing WHY the 3 Elven rings aren't under Sauton's corruption and why Galadriel said he never touched them. Also WHY season 2 started with Elrond and Galadriel the way it started, on the run towards Lindon, that entire Elven subploy seemed useless at first and I actually had problems with it. They should have explained it better why Galadriel chose not to tell Celebrimbor and Elrond who Halbrand was, but several people made it clear that she protected the secret for the rings yo just be made, they may have just stopped completely had she said the truth. But yeah, it needed more clarity in the show. Buy the relationships built between characters are lovely. I like that they made a Sauron-Galadriel connection, also between Elrond and Durin and the hobbits imo are great, they remind me of the Trilogy.
@@mattteomatei3610 you can find anything you want in it, since there are so many contradictory lines piled on top of each other. Meanwhile, the writing and acting are bad, and the production values low.
@@mattteomatei3610 Meanwhile, the rest of us are noticing that Sauron is instructing Celebrimbor on how to make alloys. Meanwhile, everyone in the show is using steel weapons and armor. Steel is not a naturally occurring metal -- it is an alloy. So presumably, since Celebrimbor has been responsible for keeping the elves well-armed for several thousand years, he would *already know* how to make alloys. I'm also noticing that, with Galadriel's daughter written out of the show entirely, Arwen can no longer exist. Isildur's brother Anarion has been replaced with a sister for no good reason that I can think of. Galadriel left her *custom made* armor and gear on the ship that she abandoned while sailing for Valinor, only to be outfitted in the *exact same armor* as she is leaving Numenor. People can survive a pyroclastic blast with no burns and only one person suffering permanent injury in the form of blindness. Time and distance are overlooked for plot convenience. Orcs can overthrow an immortal who can shapeshift into horrific creatures at a moment's notice. Honestly, the only thing in this show that feels at all genuine is the friendship between Elrond and Durin, and even that's soured by clunky dialogue and poorly concieved plot contrivance.
Of course this is subjective, but this is one of the most brilliant LOTR v rings of power pieces I have ever seen! The way you switch your descriptive verbiage from highbrow to anger and frustration is F**King FANTASTIC. I bet you aced every class in writing you ever took bravo sir. thank you for this sir, and all of your great videos
Rings of Power has been a perfect picture of what our dead on arrival version of modernity has done to the human spirit. Nobody wanted it, asked for it, or is enriched by it. The whole point of an old times fantasy is to remind us what we may have lost in our modern world. Rings of Power, defaces the purity of that vision and tries to remake “the past” to be as hollow, shallow, and meaningless as the vapid worldview of those that made it. It is a joy to have it presented with so much budget and hype because it shows that, even in its finest presentation, is rejected openly by anyone with any humanity at all. Thank you for these great videos that expose the emptiness of these attempts to appropriate meaningful IPs for ideological ends.
Indeed. I showed the first episode to my friend, who only watched the theatrical version of the trilogy once, and liked it, to see what was on the casual mind and he said: "Why did you show me this?". Myself, I lasted 2 episodes, just because I wanted to see the level of garbage we were dealing with. And it's a very deep level of garbage. Perhaps the deepest. I'm brazilian but I've been fascinated with the english language since I got stuck playing A Link to the Past when I was 6 and had to ask my much older brother how to progress because I didn't know the language. I found The Fellowship of the Ring book among my brother's collection once and asked to borrow it because the cover was cool and the name sounded cool. By age 10 I used to read Lord of the rings during my english classes in school with a dictionary by my side because by that time I knew the grammar and I'd learn so much more vocabulary from it and it was so interesting. I was lucky that the teacher didn't take it as an insult but spurred me on and even gave me an english copy of The Two Towers and said I had to move on instead of re-reading the same book over and over during the school year. That was the best teacher I've ever had.
The Elves work so much better in contrast to human characters rather than being the center of the narrative. The regal mystery they had in the Peter J. trilogy is entirely gone here. They just seem like another human faction
Exactly, elves and magic should be mysterious in Middle Earth. They shouldn't show us the forging of the rings. We shouldn't be privy to the councils of the High Elves. They need a view point character that is relatively normal, that we can experience the sense of wonder with him or her.
@@PeregrinTintenfish The hobbits were so good because the bigger world of middle earth was so utterly overwhelming and foreign to them. There is nothing wrong with a story about the forging of the rings, but literally walking through every step of it is pretty lame yeah
You can do an elf-focused story, if you care about the source material and are not a terrible writer. Read "The Silmarillion" and the "Book of Lost Tales", both are full of exciting stories with only elf characters.
Its not that, its because they no longer behave nor look anything near like the Elven race Tolkien created. I mean for gods sake, in the movies they were all tall, fair and beautiful. They were wise, patient, calm and seldom lost control of their emotions... Now you got short elves, obese elves, black elves, and grown elves with the emotional maturity of human teenagers. Like, i would not in a million years have guessed they were elves if the show didn't spell it out for me.
@@1112viggo I mean I read them as totally different in the Silmarillion, Feanor was full of emotion and thats the centre of the Noldor story where repeatedly ridiculous rash decisions were taken which led to death and the ultimate downfall of several kingdoms.
Most the money is spent on "equality" giving a huge cast of unknown diverse actors a pay that's equal to that of famous movie stars. Orlando was perfectly happy with "only" getting 175 k for playing Legolas for 3 years, he even said he would do it all over again for less. Now in contrast we got these entitled brats demanding Gandalf pay before even proving themselves, so in the end we have much less money for props.
Rings of Power is a historic as it is a sign of our times. Lord of the Rings was influenced by the horrors of World War I. The Rings of Power is influenced by modern writers who know more about shipping and situationships from Tinder, Bumble and Grinder than living a real life of purpose and contemplation. Write what you know, to quote/parapharase GOT “they know nothing”.
Yea its a rule of design. You never stray too fat from the trope. Like you could have cyber punk pirates In space. But they need eye patches and leg legs. We all know elves as skinny, long hair etc. If you venture away from thise tropes it's gonna bother people
I loved how Elron and Galadriel's little group that set off to Eregion looks like a random group assigned by the teacher for a group project. None of the 'extras' as far as the other elves look like elves! They didn't even bother to try to film Galadriel looking more regal. She legit looks like she's 5 feet tall*. 😂 *in SOME shots, I know it's not reasonable to make her look super tall but goodness they didnt even try to make any elves look ethereal. 1:57 like Echo said just now, lmao. These elves shouldn't be acting like this either.
I like how the main character embodies what modern feminists see as a strong, independent female woman. Arrogant, rude, a bit anry, and always wearing a sour face (except for riding horses). This is the type of women even the least capricious man runs away from. These characters are a brave advertisement for acting to be a lonely woman.
@@1112viggoThis is it as a woman I do not find Galadriel relatable in the slightest she most certainly is not a representation of who I am as a woman.
@@missdragonfire Very nicely put miss. imo only a narcissist could relate to her, she is the representation of nothing more than a bitter lesbian's wet dream and she needs to ride that horse off a cliff. Then there would finally be a scene were her battle-face might be artistically justified.
@@jamied1579 Less abusive towards Tolkien's characters (simply because there are fewer characters from the book), and less insulting towards the spirit of the book.
I've been a Lord of the Rings fan since 1967 - 57 yrs. This show is not Tolkien. It's more like a teen age soap opera. All you said was wonderfully phrased and well written. Thank you.
What weirds me out is that it feels like the writers don't understand the rings of power, like, the actual rings. In ThE bOoKs the three elven rings are made without Sauron's knowledge, after they made the 7 and 9 together. The only rings that should "act like the one ring" the intense desire to wear it, are the 9. The dwarves are immune to that kind of power, instead they just gained great wealth and greed which in turn attracted dragons. The rings themselves had no real power over them as seen in the show. This is because dwarves are specifically made by Aule to be resistant to evil control.
in the movies galadriel had no problem wearing her ring without it leading her to sauron, so that makes sense. she even withstood the 'one ring' while wearing her own. dwarves are made of the earth by aule, and then given independent life from aule by iluvatar. i did not know they where immune, but it does make sense, besides being made of earth they are simple people, straightforward, and accept no rule except the dwarven rule. and sauron as far as i know does have no power over the elements. that is more the privilege of the elves and the wizards.. or more accurately the eldar.. it is strange though, that saruman was still capable of affecting the mountain, would the eldar not want to prevent that? it is a strange thing, that caradhras was allready evil like, killing dwarves.. he was after all made by aule as well. there is a theory that orcs where made of heat and slime by morgoth (who like aule could also not create life), but that would contradict, the fact that the orcs lived on after morgoth was defeated, and had their individuality, their personalities, and a level of free will. they where controlled by sauron not through automatic obedience, but through him using their greed, and rage, and resentment, to his advantage. they were pulled to sauron just as people were pulled by the ring. just their resistance was way weaker, and to them, sauron just represented what they allready wanted, complete indulgence and total destruction of all those races who hunted for them and killed them in the past. (off course not that total that they would run out of food lol) . so i am more towards the idea that orcs are corrupted elves, and for this reason also where already easy to direct by sauron (in canon of course, rings of power i dont consider canon). tolkien himself was on the fence about it, but it seems clear to me. no ring for the hobbits though..
Perfect comment. The truth is - the Lord of the rings movies massively deviate from the source, but fans still love them because they feel right, we're made with passion and care, and they touch on the themes that were dear to Tolkien. Friendship, love, duty, honor, loyalty - themes that are completely alien, even antithetical to the dreaded "modern audience"😵💫
which is why every character betrays, keeps secrets, acts self-righteous, is fickle and pays no heed to respect. And they are all unlikable (cept for maybe Durin and Disa)
And the crux of the story is there. I stand by that. Frodo might not stay in the Shire for 17 years after Bilbo's birthday party but that's okay. With RoP not only is the lore off... It doesn't have that spark of ingenuity. It exists because Amazon wanted a LOTR series. There's an interesting story about the other rings besides the "one ring" but RoP isn't it. It's badass warrior Galadriel and the Harfoot sidequest.
I would like to say all the producers, script writers, directors, show runners and owners of trillion dollar companies; if you find Tolkien's writings racist, sexist and politically incorrect, please leave them alone and don't try to make any adaptations of them, don't try to rewrite them according your current identity and gender politics.
A hard-core of miserable 'woke' activists feels obliged to praise the RoP as it aligns with their warped worldview -- despite few of them liking or even watching the travesty.
Just like Witcher is for Poland, the LoTR trilogy is the pride of New Zealand. Those movies brought hundreds of millions of dollars in tourism to the country. And just like Witcher, out-of-touch Americans ruined their Middle Earth adaptation by stripping away everything people like about earlier adaptations. No one will go to the shooting locations of RoP. No one will buy special edition box sets of RoP and watch its countless hours of making-of videos. No one will buy replicas of the show's swords. None of the elves in the show will produce a mountain of cringey fanfic like Orlando Bloom's Legolas. This show will be forgotten even more than the Soviet TV version of the Hobbit which was airing as the Iron Curtain was falling.
You can blame Bezos/Amazon but not all Americans for this travesty. The showrunners are english. Don't forget Peter Jackson and warner bros botched the hobbit films, and apparently those films hurt NZ so they say.
I believe Tolkien himself pointed out that he rarely used the Elves as viewpoint characters, because they were either so inhuman that the reader couldn't really relate to them, or to make them relatable the writer had to take away everything that made them Elves rather than human.
one good thing about rings of power, is that some limited rights to parts of the silmarillion have been released for season 2.. peter jackson will allready make the hunt for gullum as part of a new movie series. it will be telling stories of the past of lotr characters.. so it is possible that silmarillion stories will be woven into that. for a full silmarillion movie or series, i am guessing that will be not within the next five years. getting the full rights will be pretty difficult, for monetary reasons and christopher tolkien is pretty attached to it. meanwhile there is 'war of the rohirrim' to look forward to. an anime movie with miranda otto (the eowin from the lotr movies) as voice actress. made by kenjii kamiyama.
@@SilenzioDiEsistenza Yes, the Hunt for Gollum might be a nice entry to the Jackson filmography. I just hope the studio let him do his magic and not force him to add things that would ruin the movie(s).
Ever since this show came out, it struck me that the elves lost the ethereal magic they had in Jackson's films and had transformed into petty squabbling politicians. They just feel like humans with big ridiculous ears. The diversity also makes no sense, which you have described well, and it takes you out of the fantasy. Also, Annatar's wig looks terrible.
Another missing element is any hint of genuine male friendships - like that between Gimli and Legolas in Lord of the Rings. There’s nothing like the scene before Helm’s Deep when Legolas and Aragorn have argued about how hopeless the fight is. Aragorn storms off and Legolas makes to go after him. “Let him go, lad, let him be,” says Gimli to his friend. Just an example of the bond between the three of them.
I was at the premier of the first two episodes of the second series. The first thing I noticed was that there were far too many writers, and no single clear vision of the story they were trying to tell. As a writer myself, the basic is having a beginning, middle, and end. This is almost set out for you as its a prequel. But somehow the characters that we know from the original films and books, were not the same as portrayed in this show. Perhaps what should have happened is to base the series on minor characters (think R2D2) who are able to be there when important events happen. That way you never know if they are going to survive. The tv series also lets itself down by way of geography. If everyone looks the same, the audience never knows where they are. The last point is socio-political. In a world of Kings and lords, having most incidents resolve with women just being better soon gets tiresome.
It worried me that you are associated with the people who wrote this trash enough to have you at the premier. This is perhaps the worst adaptation of a book or series in the history of cinema
Amazon doesn't understand that The Lord of the Rings is a Christian rooted fantasy. That there is no morally grey area, Tolkien was very black and white with his characters, and most important he didn't ship good with evil.
Tolkien was a not just a writer. He was a linguist, a philologist and a war veteran on top of having an amazing vision. Do people who work on rings of power has anything to match this?
@@PaIaeoCIive1684 No, that guy just hates the movies with a passion I can hardly comprehend. And he feels the need to comment this opinion at every opportunity (like when there is even a sliver of a hint someone might like the movies, he WILL be there to shame you lol ... or at least attempt it.) That said, he's basically saying both are shit. And he's half right.
@@nyx5376 Really? I thought he might just be a troll or, even worse, in the woke cult. Strange for him to dislike this trilogy out of all of them. You're right that he at least thinks the RoP is shite. LotR objectively isn't to most rational humans, hobbits or elves though. Maybe Peter Jackson or the bloke who plays Gimli killed his pet gerbil? Some weird folk comment online.
I'm looking forward to seeing this lovely New Zealander on the Open Bar again. I feel that if a New Zealander talks about Lord of The Rings, we should all listen.
The main problem is that LoTR have the books to base their story on, too much to the point that that they makes some cuts. The Ring of Power does not have that luxury, so the creator don't have anything of substance to backpiggy on, the fact that they are woke and like to inject their moralities on entertainment are just cherry on top.
What a succinct breakdown and comparison between the Rings of Power and the LOTR movie trilogy. I watched episode 6 of Rings Of Power this evening, I cannot take no more, it’s shite
In it's purest essence, the Lord of the Rings is a reverse fetch quest infrequently dropping side quests but it all works because the characters are likeable and their motivations are relatable or understandable. Rings of Power couldn't do any of this because in current times evil has to be given a chance to explain their side, turning everything into a post modern nightmare which might work for a contemporary corporate/political drama but sucks in fantasy.
I watched the whole first season with my son and we suffered through it. We just have far better things to do than commit to another time suck for this go-round.
You certainly can. What you can't do is buy ratings for less than they are worth. Like, you can always increase the sales of even the worst products through advertisement, but unless the product actually delivers something to people the increase in profits won't outweigh the cost in advertisement, giving you a net loss.
Excellent video!!! Thank you for summing up so well how I feel inside about the show and this whole trend of empty story telling, or the lack there of!!!!
Future generations will be as fortunate to have Peter Jackson’s trilogy of lotr bequeathed to them as to have rings of power forgotten. Time weeds out all douchbaggery.
to be fair Peter Jackson's portrayal of Legolas was a pretty relatable elf (meant to be younger than many of the others shown onscreen)... well, when he wasn't blatantly defying the laws of physics ;)
I was trying to work out what exactly makes this show so impossible to watch … and then I realised I just don’t care, I loathe pretty much everything about “modern” Hollywood, so I’ll just enjoy watching it being cast into the fire 👌
In juxtaposition to your eloquent presentation, 'You nailed it.' Especially how there are literally greater geographical transitions than character ones and how a diverse looking population is always a brand new population, as after 50, 100, 500 years, the visual appearance of a community is increasingly homogenized.
A little off topic, but I greatly appreciate the Flight of the Conchords clip in the beginning of the video. That show has become a major obsession for me as of late, and any reference to it makes me happy.
I know lots of people won't agree with me here but I actually would have respected them more if they'd made the thing their own more, like a complete re-imagining of the world (how the elves + dwarves look for example). But I just see it as a copy of the PJ film-world. I wish they'd stop putting in words from the LOTR films / books into this too as some of them are so well known it jolts me out of whatever is happening. It feels wrong to place these words in this way, although also a lot of the new dialogue is very cringy + trite ("The sea is never wrong" for example). Why did they get two really, really inexperienced people to head this up I wonder? Is it somehow because no-one else wanted it?
Jesus... This abysmal comparison you did here is epic. You can really witness the difference between LOTR and ROP (Rings On Powders). Well done good sir.
2:38 Great point. Humans learn not to get pissed at little stuffs around 30, dogs learn not to bark at everything in a couple years. Rings of Power elves are still petty after thousands? Yikes.
I think you perfectly described how off putting it looks to see randomly multi-ethnic communities in seemingly isolated areas. These questions seem reflexive for the audience to ask because we can recognize just how unreal such a situation can be. That is where the suspension of disbelief disappears, because of how specific the ethnic breakdown is and how oddly out of place it seems. It is too ideal and too obvious.
Good work on this comparison! This video is all you'd have to show someone who doesn't care about what Rings of Power has done, due to their sense of discernment or knowledge of pre-deconstructive/propagandization media has been dullened or forgotten. The only difference between changing and manipulating religious texts for political gain, say coming out with a series about what Jesus did for the first 30 years of his life turns out that he was an intersectional communist, that compared to what's happened here is that the pro bible camp believe that the bible is actually true. The part that the two stories play in society is the same. The effect resulting from that manipulation is intentional and still the same: political zealots take a true work of art and symbolism and use the vast political and media power to gaslight concepts that, if people were to come to believe, would aggregate power to the zealot's political position. The fundamental societal part that these texts and stories play in society runs deep organically and naturally, and people will lose their ability to communicate and relate on things like goodness, masculinity, leadership, sexuality, etc without transmitting these thought parasites and allowing them to burrow further into the psyche.
Rings of Power isn't fantasy. They probably doesn't even know what that means. It's a crime against imagination, a product created in a industrial pipeline
Peter Jackson in his time top committed a hersey against the Lore. But his efforts were very sincere. Tolkien isn't about how a character looks. It's the motive, the actions, the emotions that the characters undertake. There is an overarching theme of Good vs bad. And there is clear cut silhouette of what good is and what bad is. Peter Jackson was faithful to all of it. Second is story telling and general common sense. He sees the reality in the world. And bring those fantasy characters in a fantasy world, which still follow the reality of our world, so that we could easily relate and understand how pieces in the story are moving. Young Captain of Gondor trying to do what's best for his kingdom, the strider has lost his ancestry and doesn't want the responsibility and is happy with his aloof life, the hobbit, simpletons yet rising to the ocassion etc etc. Every body is that story had a chacater. So even though Gondor wasn't exactly like how Tolkien had described, or Gladriel wasn't exactly like how Tolkien had written or the maybe any of the places weren't exactly like how Tolkien had described but yet the places had the essence of what Tolkien described. Blue and Green Gladriel was widely criticized back then. But it was a perfect way to showcase the inner turmoil of Gladriel. And it worked because everything else about her was near about how Tolkien had described. Rings of power people have exactually nailed many casting choices. But they shat all over it by lack Lustre character development. Gladriel is powerful, but there is a difference between an Elf warrior and a Human warrior. Aragirn, Bromir, Gimli, Legolas all were great warrior. But you could exactly tell each of their fighting style was different. Legolas fighting style was otherworldly because he was an Elf, but He could not overshadow any of the other warriors because the fellowship fought to their strengths. Aragorn being a great leader used his various tools at the correct time. Legolas being told to take down the elephant. Gimli fighting the horde on the ground below, Aragorn ploughjng the field with his sword on a horse back. You Remember these even. And in ROP you Gladriel contorting her body on a horse. And in a very stupid way. I mean what? Do you want us to feel amazed by it? Yeah the actress is great rider. But that whole scene looks so ridiculous. Again suspension of belief. Why would any warrior try to make that pose while charging on a horse back.
Rings of Power would have needed to be very good to have a chance of comparing to the Jackson' trilogy. As it is we got endless tropes that mean nothing, inspire no-one. The best that can be said about it is it keeps some shitty writers and crappy actors in employment for a few years. It will be forgotten quickly and I will still be giving Jackson's trilogy a watch long after Amazon's montrosity has disappeared.
The writers of Rings of Power admit that they only used 200 elves for the battle, so they failed so miserably. On the other hand, the Uruk sends legions to defeat Eregion, and capture Sauron. I still plan on watching the whole series, as I still have hopes that they will now and then stick to Canon. I realize that Peter Jackson's version couldn't completely stick to Canon, but believe that he did a wonderful job with the limited budget and staff that he could find.
best review ive seen. so much hate for clicks on other channels, but this was a very dissected breakdown of why it is shit. the show is subtle as a sledge hammer, doesnt build worlds, doesnt build characters. and just feels tiny.....remember once amazon fk this up, thats it we wont see making of the rings for decades (for all those ppl that say anything is better than nothing).
sharp analysis. Youre so right. It seems like it wasnt made of folk who really is into the lord of the rings. The characteristics dont come through at all. The elves dont seem wise or prudent. the dialogues are flat with no poetry. They try to warm up the lord of the ring lore instead of telling a new story. Damn i was wishing for that series for so long, there was so much potential it really is a pity. I am sure with the right people with that high budget i could have been such a treat. Also the colorgrading and visuals, everything looks like too much.
On the diversity topic (aspiring screenwriters take note): You must bring it right back to basics and ask - why are we creating this piece of media. Is it to sell a product? (ad campaign) Is it to promote a cause? (Vote for me) is it to tell a story? (LOTR) If the goal is to tell a story, tell the story. Make the story damn good and tell the story. Nothing else matters. What you'll often find is that when the story is well written, diversity IS present and it's also REALISTIC. Amazon worked backwards. They started with diversity and all of the other things they felt they needed to include (e.g. a shire population in the desert that resembles central London on a Wednesday afternoon) and then tried to create their story around it. The output - this failure.
But I don’t understand though. Bezos isn’t a woke guy. He’s about making money and that’s his choice. So why has he done this to him self. Why isn’t he stepping in and saying I’m firing you, I’m getting good writers, I’m getting better actors. He can afford to pay for the best. So Why not do it. I don’t understand
The show runners did it deliberately to stir up the fandom and make news. But they pretended that they thought it was a delightful (their word) way for Elrond to show that he forgives Galadriel and that elves don't look at kissing the same as humans do. BS, Tolkien never discussed elvish kissing. 🤢
I always find it odd, watching reviews where the author puts in 100 times more effort (and thought) into the review than the team of "writers" put into the original product....
He didn't.
And no, you just don't get it. I was rrwatching Episode 8 of last season and the details that went into it is more than you can ever think of in your lifetime
@@mattteomatei3610 Could you list several of those details?
Must be nice to be able to find good things in such a dumpster fire of a show, honestly. It takes an insanely positive outlook to be able to ignore all the subhuman, negative IQ writing and direction.
@@pepincuatro2865 It just seems bad on a first watch but I hope you have a second watch and you'll notice a lot of details, was just noticing WHY the 3 Elven rings aren't under Sauton's corruption and why Galadriel said he never touched them. Also WHY season 2 started with Elrond and Galadriel the way it started, on the run towards Lindon, that entire Elven subploy seemed useless at first and I actually had problems with it.
They should have explained it better why Galadriel chose not to tell Celebrimbor and Elrond who Halbrand was, but several people made it clear that she protected the secret for the rings yo just be made, they may have just stopped completely had she said the truth. But yeah, it needed more clarity in the show.
Buy the relationships built between characters are lovely. I like that they made a Sauron-Galadriel connection, also between Elrond and Durin and the hobbits imo are great, they remind me of the Trilogy.
@@mattteomatei3610 you can find anything you want in it, since there are so many contradictory lines piled on top of each other. Meanwhile, the writing and acting are bad, and the production values low.
@@mattteomatei3610 Meanwhile, the rest of us are noticing that Sauron is instructing Celebrimbor on how to make alloys. Meanwhile, everyone in the show is using steel weapons and armor. Steel is not a naturally occurring metal -- it is an alloy. So presumably, since Celebrimbor has been responsible for keeping the elves well-armed for several thousand years, he would *already know* how to make alloys.
I'm also noticing that, with Galadriel's daughter written out of the show entirely, Arwen can no longer exist. Isildur's brother Anarion has been replaced with a sister for no good reason that I can think of. Galadriel left her *custom made* armor and gear on the ship that she abandoned while sailing for Valinor, only to be outfitted in the *exact same armor* as she is leaving Numenor. People can survive a pyroclastic blast with no burns and only one person suffering permanent injury in the form of blindness. Time and distance are overlooked for plot convenience. Orcs can overthrow an immortal who can shapeshift into horrific creatures at a moment's notice. Honestly, the only thing in this show that feels at all genuine is the friendship between Elrond and Durin, and even that's soured by clunky dialogue and poorly concieved plot contrivance.
Of course this is subjective, but this is one of the most brilliant LOTR v rings of power pieces I have ever seen! The way you switch your descriptive verbiage from highbrow to anger and frustration is F**King FANTASTIC. I bet you aced every class in writing you ever took bravo sir. thank you for this sir, and all of your great videos
I agree. He really is on point every time - and his humor conveys the point.
Rings of Power has been a perfect picture of what our dead on arrival version of modernity has done to the human spirit. Nobody wanted it, asked for it, or is enriched by it. The whole point of an old times fantasy is to remind us what we may have lost in our modern world. Rings of Power, defaces the purity of that vision and tries to remake “the past” to be as hollow, shallow, and meaningless as the vapid worldview of those that made it. It is a joy to have it presented with so much budget and hype because it shows that, even in its finest presentation, is rejected openly by anyone with any humanity at all. Thank you for these great videos that expose the emptiness of these attempts to appropriate meaningful IPs for ideological ends.
Eloquently put Sir.
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@@MisQot merci beaucoups!
@@benstanbridge763 thank you!
Damning and very accurate tear-down
As a Tolkien aficionado for over 40 years, there is no reason whatever that I should watch that show.
It is not even Tolkien from what I have heard.
Exactly. Why would i have to watch a fanfiction written by some unknown kids? That's what rings of power is
There is no reason to watch any of the 'adaptations' of the past 25 years.
Indeed. I showed the first episode to my friend, who only watched the theatrical version of the trilogy once, and liked it, to see what was on the casual mind and he said: "Why did you show me this?". Myself, I lasted 2 episodes, just because I wanted to see the level of garbage we were dealing with. And it's a very deep level of garbage. Perhaps the deepest.
I'm brazilian but I've been fascinated with the english language since I got stuck playing A Link to the Past when I was 6 and had to ask my much older brother how to progress because I didn't know the language. I found The Fellowship of the Ring book among my brother's collection once and asked to borrow it because the cover was cool and the name sounded cool. By age 10 I used to read Lord of the rings during my english classes in school with a dictionary by my side because by that time I knew the grammar and I'd learn so much more vocabulary from it and it was so interesting. I was lucky that the teacher didn't take it as an insult but spurred me on and even gave me an english copy of The Two Towers and said I had to move on instead of re-reading the same book over and over during the school year. That was the best teacher I've ever had.
at least the theme by Howard Shore is good, that's about it.
The Elves work so much better in contrast to human characters rather than being the center of the narrative. The regal mystery they had in the Peter J. trilogy is entirely gone here. They just seem like another human faction
Exactly, elves and magic should be mysterious in Middle Earth. They shouldn't show us the forging of the rings. We shouldn't be privy to the councils of the High Elves. They need a view point character that is relatively normal, that we can experience the sense of wonder with him or her.
@@PeregrinTintenfish The hobbits were so good because the bigger world of middle earth was so utterly overwhelming and foreign to them. There is nothing wrong with a story about the forging of the rings, but literally walking through every step of it is pretty lame yeah
You can do an elf-focused story, if you care about the source material and are not a terrible writer. Read "The Silmarillion" and the "Book of Lost Tales", both are full of exciting stories with only elf characters.
Its not that, its because they no longer behave nor look anything near like the Elven race Tolkien created. I mean for gods sake, in the movies they were all tall, fair and beautiful. They were wise, patient, calm and seldom lost control of their emotions... Now you got short elves, obese elves, black elves, and grown elves with the emotional maturity of human teenagers.
Like, i would not in a million years have guessed they were elves if the show didn't spell it out for me.
@@1112viggo I mean I read them as totally different in the Silmarillion, Feanor was full of emotion and thats the centre of the Noldor story where repeatedly ridiculous rash decisions were taken which led to death and the ultimate downfall of several kingdoms.
Bad writing, bad casting & bad acting VERSUS good writing, good casting and good acting. No contest.
But it IS so stunning and brave LOL
Except for Orlando Bloom.
@@zeroman614 That's an outrageous slur against the Bloomster. He can portray all the emotions from A to... er A
A billion dollars... and they still have costumes that look like a high school play.
Most the money is spent on "equality" giving a huge cast of unknown diverse actors a pay that's equal to that of famous movie stars.
Orlando was perfectly happy with "only" getting 175 k for playing Legolas for 3 years, he even said he would do it all over again for less.
Now in contrast we got these entitled brats demanding Gandalf pay before even proving themselves, so in the end we have much less money for props.
Agreed, they could have literally pulled a lotr Fandom user and had better plot writing as well
Rings of Power is definitive proof that money can't buy talent nor passion.
Just throwing money at a problem and expecting it to get fixed is a distinctly American idea.
True. We have had three examples in the past 25 years.
Don't know where you shop, but money can buy talent...and it can definetely fuel passions.
However, $$ can apparently buy copious amounts of doucheness. 😂
It's proof that it can buy hate and apathy though
Rings of Power is a historic as it is a sign of our times. Lord of the Rings was influenced by the horrors of World War I. The Rings of Power is influenced by modern writers who know more about shipping and situationships from Tinder, Bumble and Grinder than living a real life of purpose and contemplation. Write what you know, to quote/parapharase GOT “they know nothing”.
Absolutely spot on.
The Elves beeing just normal humans with pointy ears and blow-dry hairstyles is something I disliked immediately the short time I watched season 1.
You watched season 1?
Yea its a rule of design. You never stray too fat from the trope. Like you could have cyber punk pirates In space. But they need eye patches and leg legs. We all know elves as skinny, long hair etc. If you venture away from thise tropes it's gonna bother people
@@mabusestestament 3 Episodes, than I stopped
I loved how Elron and Galadriel's little group that set off to Eregion looks like a random group assigned by the teacher for a group project. None of the 'extras' as far as the other elves look like elves! They didn't even bother to try to film Galadriel looking more regal. She legit looks like she's 5 feet tall*. 😂
*in SOME shots, I know it's not reasonable to make her look super tall but goodness they didnt even try to make any elves look ethereal.
1:57 like Echo said just now, lmao. These elves shouldn't be acting like this either.
The reason why people love elves because of lotr is the very reason why people hate RoP
I like how the main character embodies what modern feminists see as a strong, independent female woman.
Arrogant, rude, a bit anry, and always wearing a sour face (except for riding horses). This is the type of women even the least capricious man runs away from. These characters are a brave advertisement for acting to be a lonely woman.
Well, at least we know its not what the average modern woman want in a female hero, cause none of them are buying tickets for the girl boss movies.
@@1112viggoThis is it as a woman I do not find Galadriel relatable in the slightest she most certainly is not a representation of who I am as a woman.
@@missdragonfire Very nicely put miss. imo only a narcissist could relate to her, she is the representation of nothing more than a bitter lesbian's wet dream and she needs to ride that horse off a cliff. Then there would finally be a scene were her battle-face might be artistically justified.
Completely ignore "The Rings of Power", it's garbage. Treat yourself to the original Tolkien books, they are pure gold👍
not everyone enjoys reading books tho lmao. its safe to say infact that most dont. books arent a substitude for watching movies or tv shows.
@@Uncivil_Dreams how about "whatever format that stays true to Tolkien's original source material?"
It's bad on it's own merits. You don't even need to compare it to anything. It's just bad.
Quite. The terrible adaptation is our horror show of a beloved world and values. Tolkien-lite for the Tik Toks.
Everything woke turns to shit. Rings of power turned shit into to explosive diarrhea.
And some explosive diarrhea floats. We now know why things float in the RoP.
"For the turd, her gaze is upwards..."
Still better than the Jackson films.
@@reek4062 How, exactly?
@@reek4062 is that you Jeff?
@@jamied1579 Less abusive towards Tolkien's characters (simply because there are fewer characters from the book), and less insulting towards the spirit of the book.
The root of all comedy is honesty. Propaganda has no comedy cause it has no honesty.
I've seen some pretty funny propaganda pieces from WWII.
But you could say, they are funny now because we see through the properganda, turning it honest...
''The Canon Is Closed. It Was Made By One Who Is Dead. And The Fans Keep It.''
The woke mocking the dead by "speaking for them"
much like how they cast ballots for them in elections.
"Now you must die."
Nicely said sir.
I've been a Lord of the Rings fan since 1967 - 57 yrs. This show is not Tolkien. It's more like a teen age soap opera. All you said was wonderfully phrased and well written. Thank you.
Except way worse...like substantially worse than a teen age soap opera. The writing and characters are just trash.
It's almost as if compelling storytelling is a combination of passion, insight, and competence.
Nah just put a chick in it and make it lame.
What weirds me out is that it feels like the writers don't understand the rings of power, like, the actual rings. In ThE bOoKs the three elven rings are made without Sauron's knowledge, after they made the 7 and 9 together.
The only rings that should "act like the one ring" the intense desire to wear it, are the 9. The dwarves are immune to that kind of power, instead they just gained great wealth and greed which in turn attracted dragons. The rings themselves had no real power over them as seen in the show. This is because dwarves are specifically made by Aule to be resistant to evil control.
in the movies galadriel had no problem wearing her ring without it leading her to sauron, so that makes sense. she even withstood the 'one ring' while wearing her own.
dwarves are made of the earth by aule, and then given independent life from aule by iluvatar. i did not know they where immune, but it does make sense, besides being made of earth they are simple people, straightforward, and accept no rule except the dwarven rule. and sauron as far as i know does have no power over the elements. that is more the privilege of the elves and the wizards.. or more accurately the eldar.. it is strange though, that saruman was still capable of affecting the mountain, would the eldar not want to prevent that? it is a strange thing, that caradhras was allready evil like, killing dwarves.. he was after all made by aule as well.
there is a theory that orcs where made of heat and slime by morgoth (who like aule could also not create life), but that would contradict, the fact that the orcs lived on after morgoth was defeated, and had their individuality, their personalities, and a level of free will. they where controlled by sauron not through automatic obedience, but through him using their greed, and rage, and resentment, to his advantage. they were pulled to sauron just as people were pulled by the ring. just their resistance was way weaker, and to them, sauron just represented what they allready wanted, complete indulgence and total destruction of all those races who hunted for them and killed them in the past. (off course not that total that they would run out of food lol) .
so i am more towards the idea that orcs are corrupted elves, and for this reason also where already easy to direct by sauron (in canon of course, rings of power i dont consider canon). tolkien himself was on the fence about it, but it seems clear to me.
no ring for the hobbits though..
it's like the show runners didn't gen up on Tolkien's writings and themes a all........oh, wait.
Echo has taken the gloves off.
Did he ever put them on?
Perfect comment. The truth is - the Lord of the rings movies massively deviate from the source, but fans still love them because they feel right, we're made with passion and care, and they touch on the themes that were dear to Tolkien. Friendship, love, duty, honor, loyalty - themes that are completely alien, even antithetical to the dreaded "modern audience"😵💫
"Modern audiences" seem to be hollypoop and their shills only, doesn't it?
which is why every character betrays, keeps secrets, acts self-righteous, is fickle and pays no heed to respect. And they are all unlikable (cept for maybe Durin and Disa)
And the crux of the story is there. I stand by that. Frodo might not stay in the Shire for 17 years after Bilbo's birthday party but that's okay. With RoP not only is the lore off... It doesn't have that spark of ingenuity. It exists because Amazon wanted a LOTR series. There's an interesting story about the other rings besides the "one ring" but RoP isn't it. It's badass warrior Galadriel and the Harfoot sidequest.
I would like to say all the producers, script writers, directors, show runners and owners of trillion dollar companies; if you find Tolkien's writings racist, sexist and politically incorrect, please leave them alone and don't try to make any adaptations of them, don't try to rewrite them according your current identity and gender politics.
"Pompous". The perfect word to describe this show.
Superb EC! One of your best yet! Thank you 🙏🏼
This is the single best and most thorough breakdown of what is wrong with Rings of Power and what is right about the LotR.
Unpopular opinion: Rings of Power is better than Lord of the Rings.
Its unpopular because no one thinks that.
A hard-core of miserable 'woke' activists feels obliged to praise the RoP as it aligns with their warped worldview -- despite few of them liking or even watching the travesty.
For a second there, I thought that was your actual opinion on it! Made me double take for sure
Hahahaha, you had me in the first half, not gonna lie.
nice one
The Rings of Power is the post-modern assination of mythology and the classical world.
Just like Witcher is for Poland, the LoTR trilogy is the pride of New Zealand. Those movies brought hundreds of millions of dollars in tourism to the country.
And just like Witcher, out-of-touch Americans ruined their Middle Earth adaptation by stripping away everything people like about earlier adaptations.
No one will go to the shooting locations of RoP. No one will buy special edition box sets of RoP and watch its countless hours of making-of videos. No one will buy replicas of the show's swords. None of the elves in the show will produce a mountain of cringey fanfic like Orlando Bloom's Legolas. This show will be forgotten even more than the Soviet TV version of the Hobbit which was airing as the Iron Curtain was falling.
The people of New Zealand shouldn't be proud of the awful Peter Jackson films.
You can blame Bezos/Amazon but not all Americans for this travesty. The showrunners are english. Don't forget Peter Jackson and warner bros botched the hobbit films, and apparently those films hurt NZ so they say.
Americans should not be allowed to adapt other countries stories, they always ruin them by setting them in Fantasy America.
@@reek4062 But they are, which is why they aren't awful, only awful for you.
Pet peeve: RINGS OF PRIME
Guilty pleasure: Hilarious reviews of R of P
I believe Tolkien himself pointed out that he rarely used the Elves as viewpoint characters, because they were either so inhuman that the reader couldn't really relate to them, or to make them relatable the writer had to take away everything that made them Elves rather than human.
They should have just given Peter Jackson the oportunity to consider making The Silmarillion. That alone would have been more entertaining.
one good thing about rings of power, is that some limited rights to parts of the silmarillion have been released for season 2..
peter jackson will allready make the hunt for gullum as part of a new movie series. it will be telling stories of the past of lotr characters.. so it is possible that silmarillion stories will be woven into that. for a full silmarillion movie or series, i am guessing that will be not within the next five years. getting the full rights will be pretty difficult, for monetary reasons and christopher tolkien is pretty attached to it.
meanwhile there is 'war of the rohirrim' to look forward to. an anime movie with miranda otto (the eowin from the lotr movies) as voice actress. made by kenjii kamiyama.
He doesn't have the rights to "The Silmarillion". The Tolkien family have not sold that. Thankfully. So no-one can spoil it for now.
@@mituhemant I see. Well, if that ever comes to be sold, let's hope it falls into the right hands.
@@SilenzioDiEsistenza Yes, the Hunt for Gollum might be a nice entry to the Jackson filmography. I just hope the studio let him do his magic and not force him to add things that would ruin the movie(s).
Ever since this show came out, it struck me that the elves lost the ethereal magic they had in Jackson's films and had transformed into petty squabbling politicians. They just feel like humans with big ridiculous ears. The diversity also makes no sense, which you have described well, and it takes you out of the fantasy. Also, Annatar's wig looks terrible.
Haahhah! Annatar's wig! Brilliant.
This is the most insightful analysis of the show I’ve seen so far.
Indeed.
Sarcasms, insults or lame nicknames (hi Nerdrotic) are by no means needed to provide a sharp criticism of the series.
@@nuwandalton Exactly.
Another missing element is any hint of genuine male friendships - like that between Gimli and Legolas in Lord of the Rings. There’s nothing like the scene before Helm’s Deep when Legolas and Aragorn have argued about how hopeless the fight is. Aragorn storms off and Legolas makes to go after him. “Let him go, lad, let him be,” says Gimli to his friend. Just an example of the bond between the three of them.
I was at the premier of the first two episodes of the second series. The first thing I noticed was that there were far too many writers, and no single clear vision of the story they were trying to tell. As a writer myself, the basic is having a beginning, middle, and end. This is almost set out for you as its a prequel. But somehow the characters that we know from the original films and books, were not the same as portrayed in this show. Perhaps what should have happened is to base the series on minor characters (think R2D2) who are able to be there when important events happen. That way you never know if they are going to survive. The tv series also lets itself down by way of geography. If everyone looks the same, the audience never knows where they are. The last point is socio-political. In a world of Kings and lords, having most incidents resolve with women just being better soon gets tiresome.
It worried me that you are associated with the people who wrote this trash enough to have you at the premier. This is perhaps the worst adaptation of a book or series in the history of cinema
Cate Blanchett as Galadriel was perfect
People without wisdom can’t write wise characters
Amazon doesn't understand that The Lord of the Rings is a Christian rooted fantasy. That there is no morally grey area, Tolkien was very black and white with his characters, and most important he didn't ship good with evil.
Tolkien was a not just a writer. He was a linguist, a philologist and a war veteran on top of having an amazing vision. Do people who work on rings of power has anything to match this?
You can hardly even compare them.
The Amazon show is on par with the Peter Jackson films
@@reek4062 Disgruntled 'Woke' infiltrator detected.
@@PaIaeoCIive1684 No, that guy just hates the movies with a passion I can hardly comprehend. And he feels the need to comment this opinion at every opportunity (like when there is even a sliver of a hint someone might like the movies, he WILL be there to shame you lol ... or at least attempt it.)
That said, he's basically saying both are shit. And he's half right.
@@nyx5376 Really? I thought he might just be a troll or, even worse, in the woke cult. Strange for him to dislike this trilogy out of all of them. You're right that he at least thinks the RoP is shite. LotR objectively isn't to most rational humans, hobbits or elves though. Maybe Peter Jackson or the bloke who plays Gimli killed his pet gerbil? Some weird folk comment online.
@@reek4062 rage bait 😂
Bro you walked the line between excellent scholarly analysis and irreverent humor so well. I laughed out loud when you call the men “toss pots”
-I wish this show had never come to me.
- So do all who live to see such shows.
I'm looking forward to seeing this lovely New Zealander on the Open Bar again. I feel that if a New Zealander talks about Lord of The Rings, we should all listen.
Some of the stuff is just laughable. No elf would have dared to disobey the High King.
A concise evaluation to the point! Congratulations!
Let's hope this Celebrimbor meets the same end as he does in the books. His mutilated body used as Sauron's banner as Sauron attacked the Grey Havens.
Thank you for this beautiful and insightful essay. Spot on!
The main problem is that LoTR have the books to base their story on, too much to the point that that they makes some cuts. The Ring of Power does not have that luxury, so the creator don't have anything of substance to backpiggy on, the fact that they are woke and like to inject their moralities on entertainment are just cherry on top.
Perfection! I love how elegantly but also hilariously you express your ideas - an absolute pleasure. Thank you 🙂
What a succinct breakdown and comparison between the Rings of Power and the LOTR movie trilogy. I watched episode 6 of Rings Of Power this evening, I cannot take no more, it’s shite
In it's purest essence, the Lord of the Rings is a reverse fetch quest infrequently dropping side quests but it all works because the characters are likeable and their motivations are relatable or understandable.
Rings of Power couldn't do any of this because in current times evil has to be given a chance to explain their side, turning everything into a post modern nightmare which might work for a contemporary corporate/political drama but sucks in fantasy.
"There is nothing charming or ethereal about these elves - they have no wisdom, they all suck-!!!"
LMAO Great line-!!! 😜
I watched the whole first season with my son and we suffered through it. We just have far better things to do than commit to another time suck for this go-round.
the thing is, feces has yellow-ish color and no one would ever compare it with gold, which is also yellow in color
I'm stealing this 😂😂😂
the most expensive turd that has ever been polished!
"You certainly can't buy rating." Is the thing that Amazon apparently miscalculated.
You certainly can. What you can't do is buy ratings for less than they are worth.
Like, you can always increase the sales of even the worst products through advertisement, but unless the product actually delivers something to people the increase in profits won't outweigh the cost in advertisement, giving you a net loss.
2:42 -That one core of Lord of the Rings. Chivalery against the industrial meat grinder.
I like how the narration switches between Tolkienish expressiveness and Modern Assholery. Excellent!
Excellent video!!! Thank you for summing up so well how I feel inside about the show and this whole trend of empty story telling, or the lack there of!!!!
Best comparison of the two shows on the Web.
"Do you know why the boat floats and the rock do not?" - Some lazy overpaid writer
Because any object with a density greater than the density of water looks down, while any object with a lower density looks up.
Future generations will be as fortunate to have Peter Jackson’s trilogy of lotr bequeathed to them as to have rings of power forgotten. Time weeds out all douchbaggery.
Hay COUZIN - "Her"story vs HISTORY
... Turns to legend than Myth & the balance of genders was forgotten..
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Brilliant use of English language. Admirable critical insight and presentation. Just an excellent essayist and critic. Will watch this more than once.
A preposterous Middle Earth Jean-Claude Van Damme. Hilarious. Thank you.
to be fair Peter Jackson's portrayal of Legolas was a pretty relatable elf (meant to be younger than many of the others shown onscreen)... well, when he wasn't blatantly defying the laws of physics ;)
I was trying to work out what exactly makes this show so impossible to watch … and then I realised I just don’t care, I loathe pretty much everything about “modern” Hollywood, so I’ll just enjoy watching it being cast into the fire 👌
You have articulated all of my thoughts! Truly brilliant video! 🙏🌟
In juxtaposition to your eloquent presentation, 'You nailed it.' Especially how there are literally greater geographical transitions than character ones and how a diverse looking population is always a brand new population, as after 50, 100, 500 years, the visual appearance of a community is increasingly homogenized.
Actualy I quit Amazon for that last Mistake.
true. the biggest disappointment in the history of tv shows for me.
This video is thousands time much better written than The Rings of Power
A little off topic, but I greatly appreciate the Flight of the Conchords clip in the beginning of the video. That show has become a major obsession for me as of late, and any reference to it makes me happy.
Well articulated, esp the bit about not enjoying the forced diversity.
I know lots of people won't agree with me here but I actually would have respected them more if they'd made the thing their own more, like a complete re-imagining of the world (how the elves + dwarves look for example). But I just see it as a copy of the PJ film-world.
I wish they'd stop putting in words from the LOTR films / books into this too as some of them are so well known it jolts me out of whatever is happening. It feels wrong to place these words in this way, although also a lot of the new dialogue is very cringy + trite ("The sea is never wrong" for example).
Why did they get two really, really inexperienced people to head this up I wonder? Is it somehow because no-one else wanted it?
Lol, the sea is never wrong! Even when it drowned your beloved wife?? The writers are the worst. I see that lots of them won't be returning.
Jesus... This abysmal comparison you did here is epic. You can really witness the difference between LOTR and ROP (Rings On Powders). Well done good sir.
Rangs of Girl Powah is to Lord of the Rings as excrement smeared onto driftwood is to the Mona Lisa......
Excellent overview Mr Chamberlain.
This is a fantastic summary. Well done!
2:38 Great point. Humans learn not to get pissed at little stuffs around 30, dogs learn not to bark at everything in a couple years. Rings of Power elves are still petty after thousands? Yikes.
Sums it up very well.
I think you perfectly described how off putting it looks to see randomly multi-ethnic communities in seemingly isolated areas. These questions seem reflexive for the audience to ask because we can recognize just how unreal such a situation can be. That is where the suspension of disbelief disappears, because of how specific the ethnic breakdown is and how oddly out of place it seems. It is too ideal and too obvious.
Exactly right. However, it's so hard to raise that as an issue in this day and age without appearing as a "racist."
They want everything to have the same perceived demographics as the US and it’s weird
Good work on this comparison! This video is all you'd have to show someone who doesn't care about what Rings of Power has done, due to their sense of discernment or knowledge of pre-deconstructive/propagandization media has been dullened or forgotten.
The only difference between changing and manipulating religious texts for political gain, say coming out with a series about what Jesus did for the first 30 years of his life turns out that he was an intersectional communist, that compared to what's happened here is that the pro bible camp believe that the bible is actually true. The part that the two stories play in society is the same. The effect resulting from that manipulation is intentional and still the same: political zealots take a true work of art and symbolism and use the vast political and media power to gaslight concepts that, if people were to come to believe, would aggregate power to the zealot's political position. The fundamental societal part that these texts and stories play in society runs deep organically and naturally, and people will lose their ability to communicate and relate on things like goodness, masculinity, leadership, sexuality, etc without transmitting these thought parasites and allowing them to burrow further into the psyche.
Rings of Power isn't fantasy. They probably doesn't even know what that means. It's a crime against imagination, a product created in a industrial pipeline
Spot on, The rings of power is just no fun at all.
I think you have summed this series up perfectly. I could not have said it better.
The tongue behind this echo speaks silver, featuring a nice, firm yet fluid dispensary of diction and syntax. Doubleplusgood in any dystopian epoch!
This criticism is spot on and should be watched very closely by the ROP cast and producers.
Peter Jackson in his time top committed a hersey against the Lore.
But his efforts were very sincere. Tolkien isn't about how a character looks. It's the motive, the actions, the emotions that the characters undertake. There is an overarching theme of Good vs bad. And there is clear cut silhouette of what good is and what bad is. Peter Jackson was faithful to all of it.
Second is story telling and general common sense. He sees the reality in the world. And bring those fantasy characters in a fantasy world, which still follow the reality of our world, so that we could easily relate and understand how pieces in the story are moving. Young Captain of Gondor trying to do what's best for his kingdom, the strider has lost his ancestry and doesn't want the responsibility and is happy with his aloof life, the hobbit, simpletons yet rising to the ocassion etc etc. Every body is that story had a chacater. So even though Gondor wasn't exactly like how Tolkien had described, or Gladriel wasn't exactly like how Tolkien had written or the maybe any of the places weren't exactly like how Tolkien had described but yet the places had the essence of what Tolkien described. Blue and Green Gladriel was widely criticized back then. But it was a perfect way to showcase the inner turmoil of Gladriel. And it worked because everything else about her was near about how Tolkien had described.
Rings of power people have exactually nailed many casting choices. But they shat all over it by lack Lustre character development. Gladriel is powerful, but there is a difference between an Elf warrior and a Human warrior. Aragirn, Bromir, Gimli, Legolas all were great warrior. But you could exactly tell each of their fighting style was different. Legolas fighting style was otherworldly because he was an Elf, but He could not overshadow any of the other warriors because the fellowship fought to their strengths. Aragorn being a great leader used his various tools at the correct time. Legolas being told to take down the elephant. Gimli fighting the horde on the ground below, Aragorn ploughjng the field with his sword on a horse back. You Remember these even.
And in ROP you Gladriel contorting her body on a horse. And in a very stupid way. I mean what? Do you want us to feel amazed by it? Yeah the actress is great rider. But that whole scene looks so ridiculous. Again suspension of belief. Why would any warrior try to make that pose while charging on a horse back.
Another excellent dissection by Echo, about this steaming pile of cultural toxic waste.
Rings of Power would have needed to be very good to have a chance of comparing to the Jackson' trilogy. As it is we got endless tropes that mean nothing, inspire no-one. The best that can be said about it is it keeps some shitty writers and crappy actors in employment for a few years. It will be forgotten quickly and I will still be giving Jackson's trilogy a watch long after Amazon's montrosity has disappeared.
The writers of Rings of Power admit that they only used 200 elves for the battle, so they failed so miserably. On the other hand, the Uruk sends legions to defeat Eregion, and capture Sauron. I still plan on watching the whole series, as I still have hopes that they will now and then stick to Canon. I realize that Peter Jackson's version couldn't completely stick to Canon, but believe that he did a wonderful job with the limited budget and staff that he could find.
best review ive seen. so much hate for clicks on other channels, but this was a very dissected breakdown of why it is shit.
the show is subtle as a sledge hammer, doesnt build worlds, doesnt build characters. and just feels tiny.....remember once amazon fk this up, thats it we wont see making of the rings for decades (for all those ppl that say anything is better than nothing).
I agree with everything you said.
God! Just got to your description of the elves (2:6). Had to stop the vid as i was crying with laughter. Hilarious and spot on!
sharp analysis. Youre so right. It seems like it wasnt made of folk who really is into the lord of the rings. The characteristics dont come through at all. The elves dont seem wise or prudent. the dialogues are flat with no poetry. They try to warm up the lord of the ring lore instead of telling a new story. Damn i was wishing for that series for so long, there was so much potential it really is a pity. I am sure with the right people with that high budget i could have been such a treat. Also the colorgrading and visuals, everything looks like too much.
This was informative Thank Yoo 💯
On the diversity topic (aspiring screenwriters take note):
You must bring it right back to basics and ask - why are we creating this piece of media. Is it to sell a product? (ad campaign) Is it to promote a cause? (Vote for me) is it to tell a story? (LOTR)
If the goal is to tell a story, tell the story. Make the story damn good and tell the story. Nothing else matters. What you'll often find is that when the story is well written, diversity IS present and it's also REALISTIC.
Amazon worked backwards. They started with diversity and all of the other things they felt they needed to include (e.g. a shire population in the desert that resembles central London on a Wednesday afternoon) and then tried to create their story around it.
The output - this failure.
But I don’t understand though. Bezos isn’t a woke guy. He’s about making money and that’s his choice. So why has he done this to him self. Why isn’t he stepping in and saying I’m firing you, I’m getting good writers, I’m getting better actors. He can afford to pay for the best. So Why not do it. I don’t understand
Elrond kissing his mother in law was so disgusting to see. And Celebrimbor was more acurate in the shadow od mordor game, than in the rings of power.
The show runners did it deliberately to stir up the fandom and make news. But they pretended that they thought it was a delightful (their word) way for Elrond to show that he forgives Galadriel and that elves don't look at kissing the same as humans do. BS, Tolkien never discussed elvish kissing. 🤢