This video is kindly sponsored by Brooklinen. Get $20 off your Brooklinen order over $100! Just click here bit.ly/VBirchwood_BrooklinenJan24 and enter my promo code VBirchwood. Thank you soooo much for watching! This video was such a joy to put together. What do you think, should I dye the final garment a deeper blue colour or keep it as it is? Do you think you'll make your own chiton?
Historical fashion _must_ have aspects that are suited for hot weather, because people in hot climates had to dress for the weather in the past as well. Historical fashion is far more than Northern Europe during the little ice age.
Definitely. A lot of layers would just not be used. Nudity was often an option but sunscreen wasn't a thing so covering up was more used but light layers.
I started looking into historical clothing, and more specifically materials, some years ago. I swear it's gotten so much easier to handle both summer and winter after I started using more historical methods. Getting clothes in natural fibers might be a bit more expensive, but the quality has been way better and definitely worth the investment in my opinion 😊
@@linroos5252 It will also be cheaper long term as well to get better quality natural fibre fabrics because they don't wear as quickly as modern fast fashion poly cotton cloths. So you end up buying fewer replacements, thus saving you money.
17:09 I can imagine young Greek girls laughing trying to do their hair without their mothers for the first time. I imagine one girl, holding up a beautiful polished metal mirror her grandmother gifted to her, saying “No, like this!” and the other getting frustrated and then excited when she finally figures out how to hold the hair and pin it correctly.
In Greece Proper, Ionia and Magna Grecia this would have been a realistic scenario. In Hellenistic Kingdoms (331-31BCE), where the Greeks were the upper middle class or rulling elite and were about 10% of the population (Egypt, Syria, Cyrenaica, Mesopotamia, Afganistan, Indus Valley) this would have been done by local slave women with the instructions of the mother.
If you're interested in historic warm weather clothing, I would strongly suggest looking into what we wear in Eastern Europe. The blouses in particular. In Romania we call them "iie", in Ukrainian they're "vyshyvanka", there's Bulgarian versions, and even Hungarian versions. They're so light and airy and breathable and I bet they would fit right into your wardrobe. And making one would probably be a wonderful project to work embroidery and smocking.
I love Romanian blouses with all that embroidery. A few years ago I found the youtube channel the Pretty Shepherd /Remeny Farm of Anna (she is Hungarian but she mixes in Romanian Transylvania clothing into her wardrobe besides Hungarian folk clothing) and it sparked my interest in those type of blouses and folk clothing from these 2 countries.
YES! All the yes! I love my vyšyvankas! Can't imagine going through summer without them, really. How do people do it?..😂 The embroidery on those is brilliant as well, no matter the culture; they're almost never plain! Historically it was basically considered bad luck if they were lacking embroidery, at least in my culture. (I'm Belarusian, just for context)
It's both! The proper is your first pronunciation and the other is the anglicized pronunciation. the CH is always aspirated in Greek as is Slavic and Hebraic languages.
Timeless joy: A young women carefully prepares herself for the day and looks into a bronze mirror, or asked her sisters. Suddenly that woman steps in front of us, alive again.
In terms of later historical fashion, people forget how light and cool many layers of starched cotton or linen can be - many petticoats and farthingales/hoopskirts, etc would act like fans and conduct breezes. They took inspiration from Ancient Greek clothing also for hot weather, just adapted it to their own needs. Glad you have a summer wardrobe you really enjoy!
Anyone who thinks that period clothing wouldn't suit hot weather (like here in Australia), forgets that our ancestors *lived* in these clothes. I can't remember the vintage fashion site, but I'm remembering I once saw an Edwardian dress that had been adapted to 1920's- the site noted they could tell it was period, & not a reproduction due to things like the period neckline (it was long-sleeved, & high-necked), the Art Deco-style rhinestone-buckle belt, & the shortened hem - it also noted that it didn't have the under-layers, that it would have had in the past- so it actually looked quite risqué! (as a lacy Edwardian era tea dress would...)
Nothing modern is as comfortable in hot weather then a chiton or caftan made from lightweight wool, linen or hemp! Covered skin does not heat up in the sun, swat gets soaked up and gets a big surface area to dry of which is cooling, and feels a lot less wet and gross . . .it really should be commen sense to look at how people in the past dealt with a struggle. It is such an immense fallicy to assume modern means more practical/efficient/better . . . Only for production
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Love this. We've made a Roman toga and a Ancient Greek peplos. We were too intimidated by the Ionic chiton. Looks like it's worth revisiting. Happy sewing!
I loved this video! I'm actually a hair and makeup artist with experience doing historical work like this. Your hair didn't stay because it needed to either be in twists or plaits before going into the chignon, and then you needed to do a lot of stitches to attach the chignon to the hair on your head. A better resource is the channel Janet Stephens. She's a hair historian who has really deciphered the hairstyles of statues, and really walks you through the process. It is easier if you have someone to help you (a la a visatrix), but there are some basic ones you can do on yourself.
I loved this! Also, my boyfriend's father actually reads and speaks ancient greek (he studied anciet literature). So I sent him χιτών (the garment) and asked how to say it! He had to explain via text so it might not be perfect, but he said its something along the lines of ki-TOhn. But not so hard on the oh... Almost like the o in open, but softer/rounder on the emphasized second syllable (edit: orignally said first). Also, ionian/ionic isn't said like the chemistry terms, but like eye-OH-nee-en. I'm gonna go make myself one now, yours is so gorgeous! ❤
am I the only one that got a giggle out of the sponsor being bedding? All I can think of is the 80's movies where they had Toga parties and people ran around in sheets! LOL
Pretty! As someone who has done more costume-y Ancient Greek things, the key to the buttons in the sleeves is to use ones with shanks and just sew them on inbetween the 2 sides as you sew the sleeve tops together in those specific spots. No extra sewing, no buttonholes.
You look so good in this Greek style! My favourite part of this era is how the fabric was so ruffled and baggy, it just looks so loose and comfortable but also super pretty and delicate.
its fascinating how the "monobrow"(or bodyhair in generell) changed its "value" in fashion all the time... like so much... thanks for your videos and the immense research behind it!!!
Your transformation was gorgeous! I love the freedom and vigor in your videos lately, since your big confessional video a few months ago. You seem so much happier and liberated! I feel like we are getting to know you better. Great work and thank you for sharing!
“Kh” probably indicates the sound most clearly to modern people, as the sound has softened a lot since ancient times (this is also a difference between Old Norse and modern Icelandic, by the way).
Check out Janet Stephens or Morgan Donner’s channels - I think they have some good hairstyle tips for the look you want. Morgan did a whole video on ancient pins. Also, with your length of fabric, start with holding up your bun in the back and then tightly crossing the long ends over the top and tucking the ends in the back under the bun might give both the look and support your hair, as well.
(Commenting before watching this during my break) Years ago, I once went into this rabbit hole reading through endless books on the Internet Archive (Spartan women were the undisputed queens IMO), and, someway, somehow, it led me to a lady called Janet Stephens, she’s dedicated her craft to faithfully recreating ancient Greco-Roman hairstyles, to see you also taking that part into account is great and I hope you further explore this type of topic because it’s such a complementary part of the outfits; so glad to see some love for the Greeks! Edit: skipped to the hairstyle portion of the video and heard the Silvousplaits shoutout, I miss when she uploaded frequently, her Viking hairstyles were unmatched!
MAD respect for Janet Stephens!! It was my entire privilege to attend a talk she gave (with live models!) on the Flavian (?) "orbus comarum hairstyle at the Getty Villa. She talked about how the images on an ancient woman's tombstone were most likely of makeup tools, based on her own experiments with how various animal bones shattered to produce the tools. I'm not remembering this quite accurately, but WOW I respected the research.
I tried some of those tutorials, and it's pretty easy after some practice (I filed down a large sewing needle's tip and got some thicker black thread). It's nice because the weight of the hair is distributed evenly and there are no pins that might pull on it. It's a good way to secure a crown braid, too.
Omg this would be perfect for where i live! I'm an Aussie so alot of clothes are too hot for here, i would love to make so many historical clothes but i overheat really easily😅 Honestly this looks perfect for an Aussie summer, light soft and breathable😊
I'm a guy and I don't sew or know anything about sewing for that matter however I found your channel a while back when I was watching a video from Karolina. Been watching you ever since awaiting for videos. It's just very chill and relaxing even if I don't understand much of what you do. :)
I love the color! It's very springtime and refreshing from bold dark colors we typically wear in the winter. I'm not sure if I'm brave enough to wear something like this but it looks fun. I hope you enjoy it this coming summer.😊
Ancient and Modern Greek both use the same vowel as in the word "key". The initial consonant in Ancient Greek was the way you said it, while in Modern Greek the initial vowel is like Russian х, but a bit more forward in the mouth, like the y in yes, but it's also a somewhat different word (chitonas) so you might as well stick with the pronunciation you were using.
I was already deeply hooked to your style of videos (your filming skills, music, realisation, etc), your style of sewing, and your personality. Now, with this video I think that I am in love. Such a beauty, such a wonderful smile and communicative laugh! I can see that you really love what you are doing, and it bring joy and light in my heart. What a beautiful person! ❤
Not all the way through the video, but for the past couple of videos you have had this small smile of happiness on. Just makes me think that the last couple of pieces you have done are hitting a more happiness and fulfilling feeling from the look of it.
As an art historian I love to see people add colour into history. All the now white statues used to be colourful, but the original colour faded over time and gave us the image of white statues. An aesthetic that came back into fashion again in the classic period, when some churches where drained of most colour (especially the statues) to match this ideal. I once went to a church with almost no colours on the inside. I wondered why it was that way, when I found out, that the original gothic statues where colourful, until the colours came out of style and the layer of colour was removed, until the only colour remaining was the grey of the stone. If we only could time travel and see all the colours of the past.b
What a Talent you are! ⚘Your presentations are so appealing and this one is is very .. educational, historic, transforming too. Lovely. You're such a beauty! Thank you!
I live in a very hot climate and think this would be an excellent and fairly easy solution. Do you wear a chemise underneath the chiton? Also, yes, as someone with curly hair, I completely understand the time involved in a curl refresh. Your final creation is beautiful!
I’ve often been tempted to make myself some loose Early Medieval wool gowns for winter, and silk shifts to wear under them (a rare luxury then, I know, but it feels better than linen). So many winter clothes nowadays are made of plastics (synthetic fibers), which I can’t stand. I prefer wearing dresses, especially at home, they don’t ride up or pinch like pants do.
YESSS I love it! Another chiton convert! These and stolas are truly the best and most comfy things to wear in the heat. Love the color, too! Hope you get lots of use out of it 🧡
Absolutely no worries with the colour - it looks lovely on you, as does the dress! I'm not sure I'd describe Alkanet root as 'extremely toxic' (as white lead obviously is) - yes, it needs to be used with caution, taken internally it can damage the liver, but it also has many healing properties too - as with many medicinals, it's all about the dosage - I've never found much about topical applications, and so always advised people with dodgy livers, or who are pregnant to use beetroot powder instead.
I agree it's an ee sound. In Ancient Greek χιτών would also have the 'o' sound double the length of the 'i' sound. χ - 'ch' as in 'loch' ι - 'ee' as in 'meet' τ - 't' as in 'coat' ώ - 'ou' as in 'thought' ν - 'n' as in 'tone'
@@patrickbateman3146 Yes, it's different in Modern Greek and there were a lot of local variations, not to mention temporal since Ancient/Classical Greek covers many, many centuries, but the reconstruction I think is most reliable, not that I'm an expert, has it that way. Video here on YT is called Lucian Pronunciation of Ancient Greek and omega is pronounced at 1:48
That sponsorship talk about your bedroom decor actually for me a little excited. I would totally love to see some interior/decor/season-udate videos! Maybe with some thrifting or upcycling...
QUESTION. In ypur opinion, would this garment be similar to perhaps the 'higher-born' women of ancient Egypt? Wonderful and fascinating, your Reveal. Well-done, well-researched.
Most paintings, and thus images of historical clothes, is probably from around the time of what we call the little ice-age. But if we're talking history, Rome and Greece are still Mediterranean. They did not just invent warm summers of late. Archaeologists have been doing experiments with things such as stone tools to get a better understanding of stone age cultures. People like you, who are into historical fashion can help a great deal, simply by doing what you love and making the experience of history available today.
I took 3 semesters of Ancient Greek as my foreign language in college. The ancient Greek word χιτών (chiton) has the harder K sound. I pronounce it "kai-ton". The pronunciation that sounds like "key-ton" is likely from the way American sororities and fraternities pronounce the Greek alphabet (which is generally regarded as not historically correct). The accent mark above the omega is an acute mark, which just indicates a rise in pitch. This makes the ending syllable have a slight stress on it. Accent marks in ancient Greek generally are integral parts of the word. However, it changes depending on the sentence sometimes. Also, Ancient Greek and modern Greek are different languages, similar to how middle English and modern English are different languages.
Is there any sewing to a chiton? It's literally just a hank of fabric, you fold in half, open side to your side, and you pin the upper opening to create sleeves and a head opening, then wrap the rest around you with a belt.
WOW! I do not know how you appeared in my algo, but holy cow. I have never sewn any clothes, but I am a huge fan of history, and you made this so fascinating and fun that I watched the whole thing and now I am watching your whole catalogue of videos. I love them! Thank you for making these so we can glimpse a slice of life in historical times. Very much appreciated! Love from Canada!
Love this video! Alkanet isn't toxic, and is still used in some cosmetics today. I wonder if you were thinking of aconite, which was also used in cosmetics but is VERY toxic.
Some things I like: old things, quiet things, slow things, durable things, things from different cultures, people who talk calmly, carefully and purposefully, women's hands and nails that are taken care of and presented in a tasteful manner (it's mostly an aesthetic preference but sometimes it speaks to deeper aspects of the person). I just found a new 'happy place' in this channel.
Absolutely beautiful! I might have to try making one of these. Everything came together so well. I think you did a good job with the hair and makeup. ❤
Wow.. absolutely stunning! What treat it would be to see someone wearing that & to have hand sewn it! Just incredible V & you look so beautiful. Well done.
I loved the way you put everything together! The crossed wrap with the belt was especially interesting as I had always assumed the ancient Greeks just did a simple belt around the waist. Your version was much more fun!
i used to think that everything ancient greek just faded over time, it's partially true (really sunny mediteranean weather and hand made paint don't mix well) but it's a bit more interesting, from what I understand : - I heard online (if it's online it must be true lol) that the marble statues acossiated to ancient greece are mostly reproduction because ancient greek people mainly make bronze statues (alledgedly) and the roman invadors ended up melting most of them to make coins out of - more so than mistaken by years of decay like i originally thought, the peope who rediscovered those statues actively removed the painting from these statues, either because they found them ugly and it's around the point where white is associated with purity and godly perfection in the western world so making the statues white to fit in with that idea and with the new current style of making marble classical looking sculptures truth is probably more nuanced than that but it really shifted my perspective and reminds me that the idea that something really old should be kept as unchanged by modern people as possible is definitly a modern sensibility
From what I have read about the existance of polychrome on statues and early European archaeologists, they would "clean" the statues and remove any pigments. They had cultural biases about whiteness/lightness and purity and the like. Its only been much more recently that Archaeology as a whole has learned to keep and analyze residues on and in artifacts. No more "sparkling clean" for putting on display!
There was an art dealer called Duveen associated with the British Museum during the early 20th Century. He wax discovered to be paying people to bleach classical Greek and Roman statues because he believed that was the "purest" look. Unfortunately he was far from unique in this attitude
Love seeing you explore other time periods, this is stunning 😮 Makes me think I want to do something like this, even though I'm originally not interested in ancient Greece
its actually called a Hitona or Chitona. My father told me that s what used to wear, Hitona means a garment in Ancient Greek. Can also be pronounced as Hiton or Chiton to make it sound more ancient greek.
In fact, if you study the vase paintings, in the late archeic/early Classical period around 500BC, Athenian woman's clothing, in particular could be highly railored. Multiple, bi-directional pleating groups combined with dagged hems and sheer fabric are in evidence over this might be a loose woolen poncho woven in the sprang meathod.
Love the diadem, or whatever it is. You wouldn’t have to stitch the shoulders, you know. Mostly they just pinned the shoulders with brooches. My mother and I put together a chiton for me for the Roman Club Banquet my senior year from an old pink sheet, tied at the waist with a pink velvet cord (although I don’t think velvet had been invented yet), and the shoulders pinned with dime-store brooches. It was really fun! Your makeup looks really good. The brunette on the vase is very swarthy and you are fair, so your more restrained version suits you. I think you can still find those enormous hairpins from a catalog or online; they’re plastic, but the 5th century versions would have been carved from ivory, horn, or wood.
Hi, I am currently learning both Ancient (Attic) and Modern Greek. Thank you for making this video - very fun and informative. Regarding pronunciation, in Modern Greek the letter khi (or chi) represents a sound we don't formally recognize in English, but sounds closest to an h - but a rough h, more like in Scottish "loch" or German "ich." This sound is called a voiceless velar fricative, so you can look it up for audio samples. The vowel i will always be pronounced like -ee- in English "seen" and o like in in English "tone." Since the accent mark is over the o, the stress should be on the second syllable. The reconstructed Ancient Greek pronunciation would be mostly the same, except in the first syllable: kh, in Ancient Greek, probably sounded closer to English k (just a little breathier, maybe) and the i could have been like in "kit." Hope that doesn't make things even more confusing. Thanks again.
I just thought you might like to know that the earrings are not blown glass but lampworked glass. The pattern is millefiori (meaning 1000 flowers in Italian) and is a process from ancient Greece. So they really match the outfit! 😊You look lovely!
i made myself a peplos (for early anglo saxon dress) wearing a peplos with a nice drapey fabric and a lot of heavy jewelry really makes me feel like i'm ~~The Sh*t ~~
After watching your summer wardrobe video, I bought myself some cotton sheets at the thrift store to give this a try!! I feel that is the most accessible method when this simply HAS to be natural fibers and a TON of fabric to work, especially for my 6’4” self 😭 I can’t wait to make this, but I think I’ll go to the fabric store and invest in a nice tape/ribbon to tie it up for wearing. I don’t wear historical fashion every day (although I wear a LOT of vintage-inspired clothing), but I will be making this for daily wear! I have been dying for a good 70’s kaftan this summer. Why buy a kaftan when I can make a kiton which can serve that function too!!!
Absolutely beautiful!!! All of it! I’ve been creating historical costumes for my music students for years but have never done this time period because we know so little about their music. But now I’m gonna make a chiton and we will explore the music of Greece this summer at camp. Thank you so much for the idea and inspiration🥰
I actually made an ionic chiton from a Sari that I purchased from etsy that had a very fun woven fish pattern in it! I then just cut it to size and sewed on medusa-head buttons!
In the medieval period, kohl was produced in the heart of the Khazarian Empire in their capitol city Atil. Atil was located at the mouth of the Volga River on the western coast of the Caspian Sea. There is a city named "Khol" in Azerbaijan. It is located in the Neftchala District, which is situated along the Caspian Sea coast in southeastern Azerbaijan. There were many people of Ashkenazi-Jewish descent who migrated from there into Ukraine and Germany. Some took the name Kohl as their surname. One notable individual who happens to have been a Jewish American was Maxwell Kohl who founded the department store Kohl's. He opened the first Kohl's department store in Brookfield, Wisconsin, in 1962. I discovered all this a year ago while researching cultural migrations out of the Iberian Caucus region.
I really admire your work and hope you keep it up! I follow several channels seeking to recreate various aspects of historical settings and yours is quickly becoming one of my favorites!
@@VBirchwood ok, I finished watching, this looks amazing!!!! Now I want the same thing. I made a similar dress, modern, last summer, it's like a peasant dress style with the raglan sleeves and the gathering at the neckline. But I'm still working on my winter and mid season wardrobe, I feel like I still have time ^^ My current plan is to knit a skirt.
the final look is just so beautiful and elegant yet looks extremely comfortable! I definitely must make myself a chiton for next summer, even if only for the purpose of cosplay and wearing around the house (I'm not nearly brave enough to wear it outside). I did make myself a summer dress inspired by a chiton though, but with set on sleeves and big pockets, and I love it very much. Maybe next step is a more accurate chiton?
According to Wikipedia the ancient Greek pronunciation of χιτών (chiton) is [kʰitɔ̌ːn] - the /i/ sound is an i as in the word "it", the tiny h after the k indicated an aspirated k sound, and the diacritic on the ɔ̌ indicates a rising tone, plus the : after would suggest a lengthening of the o sound, an open o like in the word "body" or "lobby" perhaps. It's been a while since I studied IPA in linguistics. I'm rusty!
I discovered your channel long ago for unknown reasons (thanks UA-cam algorithms) and have always enjoyed your enthusiasm, attention to detail, cheery attitude and always positive vibes when talking about your passion, and simply watching you work as you skillfully recreate history. After a long day at work and as I am trying to wind down for the night, your voice is as about as relaxing as one can hope to hear from another human being. You're just a joy to watch and listen to. You looked amazingly beautiful as always, but to be honest with you, this Greek style suits you in a way I can't explain. 23:16 I'm pretty sure there's a marble statue of you somewhere in Greece.
You're correct in that the chiton is one of the best for beginners to drape. When I did my bachelor, it was the first garment we were taught to drape and make and it really helped to start there. It gives an excellent introduction to manipulating fabric on a dress form or a human body, as you showed here, and is very forgiving when it comes to corrections.
With or without make-up, you are stunning. I am new here and really love your content. You looks and clothing are truly beautiful. It shows that modesty is magical. Thanks
You look amazing! I think this colour suits you. I also love how happy you look in your recent videos, you seem to have so much fun making stuff! ❤ And with the chronic health issues, I hope you feel better and will feel better for long time, preferably always ❤
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Thank you soooo much for watching! This video was such a joy to put together. What do you think, should I dye the final garment a deeper blue colour or keep it as it is? Do you think you'll make your own chiton?
Your beauty is remarkable, dear Birchwood. I am in love. My heart is melting. God bless you and good luck with everything!
I think the colour suits you very well as it is, it's such a pretty look.
Don’t you mean 2024?
Middle Eastern clothing was also designed for a hot climate.
I’d prefer a darker blue, but that’s just for me!
Historical fashion _must_ have aspects that are suited for hot weather, because people in hot climates had to dress for the weather in the past as well. Historical fashion is far more than Northern Europe during the little ice age.
Completely agreed! It is such a broad term that encompasses so many unique cultures and time periods.
Definitely. A lot of layers would just not be used. Nudity was often an option but sunscreen wasn't a thing so covering up was more used but light layers.
I started looking into historical clothing, and more specifically materials, some years ago. I swear it's gotten so much easier to handle both summer and winter after I started using more historical methods. Getting clothes in natural fibers might be a bit more expensive, but the quality has been way better and definitely worth the investment in my opinion 😊
@@linroos5252exactly I started buying linen shirts and wool pants/sweaters and now the extreme heat and cold is easy to tolerate
@@linroos5252 It will also be cheaper long term as well to get better quality natural fibre fabrics because they don't wear as quickly as modern fast fashion poly cotton cloths. So you end up buying fewer replacements, thus saving you money.
17:09 I can imagine young Greek girls laughing trying to do their hair without their mothers for the first time. I imagine one girl, holding up a beautiful polished metal mirror her grandmother gifted to her, saying “No, like this!” and the other getting frustrated and then excited when she finally figures out how to hold the hair and pin it correctly.
In Greece Proper, Ionia and Magna Grecia this would have been a realistic scenario. In Hellenistic Kingdoms (331-31BCE), where the Greeks were the upper middle class or rulling elite and were about 10% of the population (Egypt, Syria, Cyrenaica, Mesopotamia, Afganistan, Indus Valley) this would have been done by local slave women with the instructions of the mother.
If you're interested in historic warm weather clothing, I would strongly suggest looking into what we wear in Eastern Europe. The blouses in particular. In Romania we call them "iie", in Ukrainian they're "vyshyvanka", there's Bulgarian versions, and even Hungarian versions. They're so light and airy and breathable and I bet they would fit right into your wardrobe. And making one would probably be a wonderful project to work embroidery and smocking.
Yes - I have a Hungarian one and it is very light and pretty.
I love Romanian blouses with all that embroidery. A few years ago I found the youtube channel the Pretty Shepherd /Remeny Farm of Anna (she is Hungarian but she mixes in Romanian Transylvania clothing into her wardrobe besides Hungarian folk clothing) and it sparked my interest in those type of blouses and folk clothing from these 2 countries.
YES! All the yes! I love my vyšyvankas! Can't imagine going through summer without them, really. How do people do it?..😂
The embroidery on those is brilliant as well, no matter the culture; they're almost never plain! Historically it was basically considered bad luck if they were lacking embroidery, at least in my culture. (I'm Belarusian, just for context)
We actually have similar blouses in Greece with gauzey cotton and embroidery
“there you are little pin. come back to mummy!” i’m going to say this everytime i find a pin now😂
Hahahaha 😂
Me too
It's both! The proper is your first pronunciation and the other is the anglicized pronunciation. the CH is always aspirated in Greek as is Slavic and Hebraic languages.
Timeless joy: A young women carefully prepares herself for the day and looks into a bronze mirror, or asked her sisters. Suddenly that woman steps in front of us, alive again.
In terms of later historical fashion, people forget how light and cool many layers of starched cotton or linen can be - many petticoats and farthingales/hoopskirts, etc would act like fans and conduct breezes. They took inspiration from Ancient Greek clothing also for hot weather, just adapted it to their own needs. Glad you have a summer wardrobe you really enjoy!
Anyone who thinks that period clothing wouldn't suit hot weather (like here in Australia), forgets that our ancestors *lived* in these clothes.
I can't remember the vintage fashion site, but I'm remembering I once saw an Edwardian dress that had been adapted to 1920's- the site noted they could tell it was period, & not a reproduction due to things like the period neckline (it was long-sleeved, & high-necked), the Art Deco-style rhinestone-buckle belt, & the shortened hem - it also noted that it didn't have the under-layers, that it would have had in the past- so it actually looked quite risqué! (as a lacy Edwardian era tea dress would...)
Nothing modern is as comfortable in hot weather then a chiton or caftan made from lightweight wool, linen or hemp! Covered skin does not heat up in the sun, swat gets soaked up and gets a big surface area to dry of which is cooling, and feels a lot less wet and gross . . .it really should be commen sense to look at how people in the past dealt with a struggle. It is such an immense fallicy to assume modern means more practical/efficient/better . . . Only for production
Love this. We've made a Roman toga and a Ancient Greek peplos. We were too intimidated by the Ionic chiton. Looks like it's worth revisiting. Happy sewing!
Thank you! Definitely revisit it - it’s simpler than it looks!
I loved this video! I'm actually a hair and makeup artist with experience doing historical work like this. Your hair didn't stay because it needed to either be in twists or plaits before going into the chignon, and then you needed to do a lot of stitches to attach the chignon to the hair on your head. A better resource is the channel Janet Stephens. She's a hair historian who has really deciphered the hairstyles of statues, and really walks you through the process. It is easier if you have someone to help you (a la a visatrix), but there are some basic ones you can do on yourself.
I loved this! Also, my boyfriend's father actually reads and speaks ancient greek (he studied anciet literature). So I sent him χιτών (the garment) and asked how to say it! He had to explain via text so it might not be perfect, but he said its something along the lines of ki-TOhn. But not so hard on the oh... Almost like the o in open, but softer/rounder on the emphasized second syllable (edit: orignally said first). Also, ionian/ionic isn't said like the chemistry terms, but like eye-OH-nee-en. I'm gonna go make myself one now, yours is so gorgeous! ❤
Thank you for the pronunciation help! 😊 I’m so glad you loved the video. I hope you enjoy your future chiton as well!
He just corrected himself, the emphasis is on the second syllable!
Is the Ki like Kite or Key or Kill?
I second the pronunciation of the i (which is it, please).... short, long, or something else?
@@LaineyBug2020neither, it's like chi (hi), like the same sound as he
So heton
am I the only one that got a giggle out of the sponsor being bedding? All I can think of is the 80's movies where they had Toga parties and people ran around in sheets! LOL
Pretty! As someone who has done more costume-y Ancient Greek things, the key to the buttons in the sleeves is to use ones with shanks and just sew them on inbetween the 2 sides as you sew the sleeve tops together in those specific spots. No extra sewing, no buttonholes.
That is such a simple and clever idea!!
Good idea!!!👍
You want ancient Egypt, and use linen. Cotton is hot.
It’s 95 F with 90% humidity here in summer now.
You look so good in this Greek style! My favourite part of this era is how the fabric was so ruffled and baggy, it just looks so loose and comfortable but also super pretty and delicate.
its fascinating how the "monobrow"(or bodyhair in generell) changed its "value" in fashion all the time... like so much... thanks for your videos and the immense research behind it!!!
Your transformation was gorgeous! I love the freedom and vigor in your videos lately, since your big confessional video a few months ago. You seem so much happier and liberated! I feel like we are getting to know you better. Great work and thank you for sharing!
Thank you so much! I definitely feel a lot more free and liberated, especially as I continue healing 😊
You look absolutely lovely. That mint green linen is beautiful. The final look is really elegant.
Thank you so much!
The Chiton is proounced in Greek with "H"iton. Foor some reason the Greek h letter is usually translated to "ch" in english.
English doesn’t really have the “chi” sound.
Thank you for letting me know! So even all the online pronunciation guides were incorrect too 😅
“Kh” probably indicates the sound most clearly to modern people, as the sound has softened a lot since ancient times (this is also a difference between Old Norse and modern Icelandic, by the way).
@@VBirchwood Yes, tho they were correct on the "I". If in doubt go with the non-English "I", as the English "I" is very much an outlier.
@@ragnkjanot really, as modern people pronounce it with too much k and not enough h (or aspiration). The closest sound is h.
Check out Janet Stephens or Morgan Donner’s channels - I think they have some good hairstyle tips for the look you want. Morgan did a whole video on ancient pins.
Also, with your length of fabric, start with holding up your bun in the back and then tightly crossing the long ends over the top and tucking the ends in the back under the bun might give both the look and support your hair, as well.
As a Indian Caribbean 🇬🇾🇹🇹🇮🇳 I have connections to indo-Greeks and Himalayas but I love the Greek makeup I love how historical it is ❤
(Commenting before watching this during my break)
Years ago, I once went into this rabbit hole reading through endless books on the Internet Archive (Spartan women were the undisputed queens IMO), and, someway, somehow, it led me to a lady called Janet Stephens, she’s dedicated her craft to faithfully recreating ancient Greco-Roman hairstyles, to see you also taking that part into account is great and I hope you further explore this type of topic because it’s such a complementary part of the outfits; so glad to see some love for the Greeks!
Edit: skipped to the hairstyle portion of the video and heard the Silvousplaits shoutout, I miss when she uploaded frequently, her Viking hairstyles were unmatched!
MAD respect for Janet Stephens!! It was my entire privilege to attend a talk she gave (with live models!) on the Flavian (?) "orbus comarum hairstyle at the Getty Villa. She talked about how the images on an ancient woman's tombstone were most likely of makeup tools, based on her own experiments with how various animal bones shattered to produce the tools. I'm not remembering this quite accurately, but WOW I respected the research.
I tried some of those tutorials, and it's pretty easy after some practice (I filed down a large sewing needle's tip and got some thicker black thread). It's nice because the weight of the hair is distributed evenly and there are no pins that might pull on it. It's a good way to secure a crown braid, too.
Omg this would be perfect for where i live! I'm an Aussie so alot of clothes are too hot for here, i would love to make so many historical clothes but i overheat really easily😅
Honestly this looks perfect for an Aussie summer, light soft and breathable😊
I'm a guy and I don't sew or know anything about sewing for that matter however I found your channel a while back when I was watching a video from Karolina. Been watching you ever since awaiting for videos. It's just very chill and relaxing even if I don't understand much of what you do. :)
The final reveal is SO beautiful! I can definitely see were Europeans in the early 1800s Regency period took inspiration from ancient greek fashion
I love the color! It's very springtime and refreshing from bold dark colors we typically wear in the winter. I'm not sure if I'm brave enough to wear something like this but it looks fun. I hope you enjoy it this coming summer.😊
Thank you!! I hope your winter is going well 🥰
Ancient and Modern Greek both use the same vowel as in the word "key". The initial consonant in Ancient Greek was the way you said it, while in Modern Greek the initial vowel is like Russian х, but a bit more forward in the mouth, like the y in yes, but it's also a somewhat different word (chitonas) so you might as well stick with the pronunciation you were using.
I have a degree in ancient history so it is really exciting to see your final look, a glimpse into the past !!! Fantastic video as always :')
I was already deeply hooked to your style of videos (your filming skills, music, realisation, etc), your style of sewing, and your personality. Now, with this video I think that I am in love. Such a beauty, such a wonderful smile and communicative laugh! I can see that you really love what you are doing, and it bring joy and light in my heart. What a beautiful person!
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Not all the way through the video, but for the past couple of videos you have had this small smile of happiness on. Just makes me think that the last couple of pieces you have done are hitting a more happiness and fulfilling feeling from the look of it.
Nothing to do with the content itself, my ongoing therapy treatment is just helping me immensely.
@@VBirchwood Happy to hear that it is doing wonders for you.
As an art historian I love to see people add colour into history. All the now white statues used to be colourful, but the original colour faded over time and gave us the image of white statues. An aesthetic that came back into fashion again in the classic period, when some churches where drained of most colour (especially the statues) to match this ideal. I once went to a church with almost no colours on the inside. I wondered why it was that way, when I found out, that the original gothic statues where colourful, until the colours came out of style and the layer of colour was removed, until the only colour remaining was the grey of the stone.
If we only could time travel and see all the colours of the past.b
It would be so amazing to see all the rich and vibrant colours of the past!
What a Talent you are! ⚘Your presentations are so appealing and this one is is very .. educational, historic, transforming too. Lovely. You're such a beauty! Thank you!
STUNNING! Absolutely a Wow! Your choices in background music are exquisite too.
Look at you! Almost 100K subscribers!!! I'm so proud of you!
Thank you!! It feels a bit surreal 😊
You look SO beautiful, like a real Greek Goddess!! Love that whole look on you. I think the fabric and sewing design are perfect 😮❤
I live in a very hot climate and think this would be an excellent and fairly easy solution. Do you wear a chemise underneath the chiton? Also, yes, as someone with curly hair, I completely understand the time involved in a curl refresh. Your final creation is beautiful!
Janet Stephens has great video’s on classical hairstyles! Btw the make-up really suits you
This is so pretty! As someone who doesn’t wear makeup myself, I think yours came out great. Happy creating💚 🪡🧵💚
I’ve often been tempted to make myself some loose Early Medieval wool gowns for winter, and silk shifts to wear under them (a rare luxury then, I know, but it feels better than linen). So many winter clothes nowadays are made of plastics (synthetic fibers), which I can’t stand. I prefer wearing dresses, especially at home, they don’t ride up or pinch like pants do.
YESSS I love it! Another chiton convert! These and stolas are truly the best and most comfy things to wear in the heat. Love the color, too! Hope you get lots of use out of it 🧡
Looks great! One accessory that any greek lady would have had would have been a loooooooong almost transparent veil which would help keep the sun off.
Absolutely no worries with the colour - it looks lovely on you, as does the dress! I'm not sure I'd describe Alkanet root as 'extremely toxic' (as white lead obviously is) - yes, it needs to be used with caution, taken internally it can damage the liver, but it also has many healing properties too - as with many medicinals, it's all about the dosage - I've never found much about topical applications, and so always advised people with dodgy livers, or who are pregnant to use beetroot powder instead.
It looks sooo comfortable and breezy! I like how easily you can change up the look of this garment, simply by tying the ribbon in different styles.
Chiton is more like "hee-TONE". Accent on the second syllable.
I agree it's an ee sound. In Ancient Greek χιτών would also have the 'o' sound double the length of the 'i' sound.
χ - 'ch' as in 'loch'
ι - 'ee' as in 'meet'
τ - 't' as in 'coat'
ώ - 'ou' as in 'thought'
ν - 'n' as in 'tone'
Thanks to the both of you!!!! I always thought it was cheet like cheetah un like onion! Geez I was so far off but now I can say it right!!!
@@johannesgh90 are you sure it's like the vowel in "thought"? I know in modern Greek it's more like "tone" than "thought"
@@patrickbateman3146 Yes, it's different in Modern Greek and there were a lot of local variations, not to mention temporal since Ancient/Classical Greek covers many, many centuries, but the reconstruction I think is most reliable, not that I'm an expert, has it that way. Video here on YT is called Lucian Pronunciation of Ancient Greek and omega is pronounced at 1:48
@@johannesgh90 oh cool. Thanks
That sponsorship talk about your bedroom decor actually for me a little excited. I would totally love to see some interior/decor/season-udate videos! Maybe with some thrifting or upcycling...
QUESTION. In ypur opinion, would this garment be similar to perhaps the 'higher-born' women of ancient Egypt? Wonderful and fascinating, your Reveal. Well-done, well-researched.
This enture ensemble turned out so fabulous!!!
I absolutely love the historical detail you put into your videos. Also the final reveal was not at all what I was expecting. It turned out great.
wow, gorgeous!! i so want to try out this look now!
Most paintings, and thus images of historical clothes, is probably from around the time of what we call the little ice-age. But if we're talking history, Rome and Greece are still Mediterranean. They did not just invent warm summers of late. Archaeologists have been doing experiments with things such as stone tools to get a better understanding of stone age cultures. People like you, who are into historical fashion can help a great deal, simply by doing what you love and making the experience of history available today.
Such a gorgeous simple look! You did a fantastic job! Though I think you could have gone even more heavy on the eye makeup!
Thank you! I was so terrified because it's been years since I've applied black eyeliner 😂
Dark eye makeup actually had practical origins, since it makes sun glare slightly less bad.
@@ragnkja trueI I wore super heavy eyeliner top and bottom when I visited spain because of this!
Wonderful idea! I'm so trued of shorts, jeans etc. Back to feminine clothes. Thank you😊
Why isn't this garment more popular, its so good and it makes you look fantastic!
Because the modern siluette is skin tight and something that flawy is seen as unflattering . . .
The dress looks beautiful and the smoky eye look suits you so well!!
The end result is so pretty and suits you so well 🥰
Beautiful. I love the whole look.
I took 3 semesters of Ancient Greek as my foreign language in college. The ancient Greek word χιτών (chiton) has the harder K sound. I pronounce it "kai-ton". The pronunciation that sounds like "key-ton" is likely from the way American sororities and fraternities pronounce the Greek alphabet (which is generally regarded as not historically correct). The accent mark above the omega is an acute mark, which just indicates a rise in pitch. This makes the ending syllable have a slight stress on it. Accent marks in ancient Greek generally are integral parts of the word. However, it changes depending on the sentence sometimes. Also, Ancient Greek and modern Greek are different languages, similar to how middle English and modern English are different languages.
Is there any sewing to a chiton? It's literally just a hank of fabric, you fold in half, open side to your side, and you pin the upper opening to create sleeves and a head opening, then wrap the rest around you with a belt.
WOW! I do not know how you appeared in my algo, but holy cow. I have never sewn any clothes, but I am a huge fan of history, and you made this so fascinating and fun that I watched the whole thing and now I am watching your whole catalogue of videos. I love them! Thank you for making these so we can glimpse a slice of life in historical times. Very much appreciated! Love from Canada!
Thank you so much!! Welcome to the channel ☺️
woow the end result looks soo good! The accessories definetly put the whole look together!^^
Love this video! Alkanet isn't toxic, and is still used in some cosmetics today. I wonder if you were thinking of aconite, which was also used in cosmetics but is VERY toxic.
Thank you for the correction! I got it confused with Alkanna root in my research 🥲
Some things I like: old things, quiet things, slow things, durable things, things from different cultures, people who talk calmly, carefully and purposefully, women's hands and nails that are taken care of and presented in a tasteful manner (it's mostly an aesthetic preference but sometimes it speaks to deeper aspects of the person). I just found a new 'happy place' in this channel.
Absolutely beautiful! I might have to try making one of these. Everything came together so well. I think you did a good job with the hair and makeup. ❤
Thank you!! 😊
“I actually feel really beautiful “ you ARE beautiful! And the whole look you pulled off suits you perfectly! ❤💐
K’Ton with the accent on the second syllable was how I learned it. And I think prefinity is a great word … even implies preference in the mix!😂
Wow.. absolutely stunning! What treat it would be to see someone wearing that & to have hand sewn it! Just incredible V & you look so beautiful. Well done.
Thank you! 🥰
I loved the way you put everything together! The crossed wrap with the belt was especially interesting as I had always assumed the ancient Greeks just did a simple belt around the waist. Your version was much more fun!
i used to think that everything ancient greek just faded over time, it's partially true (really sunny mediteranean weather and hand made paint don't mix well) but it's a bit more interesting, from what I understand :
- I heard online (if it's online it must be true lol) that the marble statues acossiated to ancient greece are mostly reproduction because ancient greek people mainly make bronze statues (alledgedly) and the roman invadors ended up melting most of them to make coins out of
- more so than mistaken by years of decay like i originally thought, the peope who rediscovered those statues actively removed the painting from these statues, either because they found them ugly and it's around the point where white is associated with purity and godly perfection in the western world so making the statues white to fit in with that idea and with the new current style of making marble classical looking sculptures
truth is probably more nuanced than that but it really shifted my perspective and reminds me that the idea that something really old should be kept as unchanged by modern people as possible is definitly a modern sensibility
Seriously as a Greek person myself I don't understand your comment ..
From what I have read about the existance of polychrome on statues and early European archaeologists, they would "clean" the statues and remove any pigments. They had cultural biases about whiteness/lightness and purity and the like. Its only been much more recently that Archaeology as a whole has learned to keep and analyze residues on and in artifacts. No more "sparkling clean" for putting on display!
There was an art dealer called Duveen associated with the British Museum during the early 20th Century. He wax discovered to be paying people to bleach classical Greek and Roman statues because he believed that was the "purest" look. Unfortunately he was far from unique in this attitude
Love seeing you explore other time periods, this is stunning 😮 Makes me think I want to do something like this, even though I'm originally not interested in ancient Greece
its actually called a Hitona or Chitona. My father told me that s what used to wear, Hitona means a garment in Ancient Greek. Can also be pronounced as Hiton or Chiton to make it sound more ancient greek.
Ok. This suits you so well!
In fact, if you study the vase paintings, in the late archeic/early Classical period around 500BC, Athenian woman's clothing, in particular could be highly railored. Multiple, bi-directional pleating groups combined with dagged hems and sheer fabric are in evidence over this might be a loose woolen poncho woven in the sprang meathod.
Love the diadem, or whatever it is. You wouldn’t have to stitch the shoulders, you know. Mostly they just pinned the shoulders with brooches. My mother and I put together a chiton for me for the Roman Club Banquet my senior year from an old pink sheet, tied at the waist with a pink velvet cord (although I don’t think velvet had been invented yet), and the shoulders pinned with dime-store brooches. It was really fun!
Your makeup looks really good. The brunette on the vase is very swarthy and you are fair, so your more restrained version suits you.
I think you can still find those enormous hairpins from a catalog or online; they’re plastic, but the 5th century versions would have been carved from ivory, horn, or wood.
Hi, I am currently learning both Ancient (Attic) and Modern Greek. Thank you for making this video - very fun and informative.
Regarding pronunciation, in Modern Greek the letter khi (or chi) represents a sound we don't formally recognize in English, but sounds closest to an h - but a rough h, more like in Scottish "loch" or German "ich." This sound is called a voiceless velar fricative, so you can look it up for audio samples.
The vowel i will always be pronounced like -ee- in English "seen" and o like in in English "tone."
Since the accent mark is over the o, the stress should be on the second syllable.
The reconstructed Ancient Greek pronunciation would be mostly the same, except in the first syllable: kh, in Ancient Greek, probably sounded closer to English k (just a little breathier, maybe) and the i could have been like in "kit."
Hope that doesn't make things even more confusing. Thanks again.
This was so much fun to watch! You look glowy and suit this ancient Greek style so much
I just thought you might like to know that the earrings are not blown glass but lampworked glass. The pattern is millefiori (meaning 1000 flowers in Italian) and is a process from ancient Greece. So they really match the outfit! 😊You look lovely!
So cool! Thank you for the information and the compliments! ☺️
i made myself a peplos (for early anglo saxon dress) wearing a peplos with a nice drapey fabric and a lot of heavy jewelry really makes me feel like i'm ~~The Sh*t ~~
After watching your summer wardrobe video, I bought myself some cotton sheets at the thrift store to give this a try!! I feel that is the most accessible method when this simply HAS to be natural fibers and a TON of fabric to work, especially for my 6’4” self 😭 I can’t wait to make this, but I think I’ll go to the fabric store and invest in a nice tape/ribbon to tie it up for wearing. I don’t wear historical fashion every day (although I wear a LOT of vintage-inspired clothing), but I will be making this for daily wear! I have been dying for a good 70’s kaftan this summer. Why buy a kaftan when I can make a kiton which can serve that function too!!!
Absolutely beautiful!!! All of it! I’ve been creating historical costumes for my music students for years but have never done this time period because we know so little about their music. But now I’m gonna make a chiton and we will explore the music of Greece this summer at camp. Thank you so much for the idea and inspiration🥰
This looks so gorgeous I’m in awe! I never thought Ancient Greek clothing looked pretty but now I want one!
Well, me and my scorching summer are thanking you. A lot !!!!
I actually made an ionic chiton from a Sari that I purchased from etsy that had a very fun woven fish pattern in it! I then just cut it to size and sewed on medusa-head buttons!
I can't concentrate on what you're making because I love the garment you're wearing, the fit is gorgeous
In the medieval period, kohl was produced in the heart of the Khazarian Empire in their capitol city Atil. Atil was located at the mouth of the Volga River on the western coast of the Caspian Sea. There is a city named "Khol" in Azerbaijan. It is located in the Neftchala District, which is situated along the Caspian Sea coast in southeastern Azerbaijan. There were many people of Ashkenazi-Jewish descent who migrated from there into Ukraine and Germany. Some took the name Kohl as their surname. One notable individual who happens to have been a Jewish American was Maxwell Kohl who founded the department store Kohl's. He opened the first Kohl's department store in Brookfield, Wisconsin, in 1962. I discovered all this a year ago while researching cultural migrations out of the Iberian Caucus region.
Fantastic look.
I really admire your work and hope you keep it up! I follow several channels seeking to recreate various aspects of historical settings and yours is quickly becoming one of my favorites!
OK PAUSE!
I kinda, really, like more your stuff, since you started broadening your eras and cultures and styles.
OK, now I watch the rest ^^
Thank you!! I think it's because it's more "me" 😊
@@VBirchwood ok, I finished watching, this looks amazing!!!! Now I want the same thing. I made a similar dress, modern, last summer, it's like a peasant dress style with the raglan sleeves and the gathering at the neckline.
But I'm still working on my winter and mid season wardrobe, I feel like I still have time ^^ My current plan is to knit a skirt.
Here I sit in over 30C heat - and I have not made my Chiton while it was winter.... Thank you for this video!
the final look is just so beautiful and elegant yet looks extremely comfortable! I definitely must make myself a chiton for next summer, even if only for the purpose of cosplay and wearing around the house (I'm not nearly brave enough to wear it outside). I did make myself a summer dress inspired by a chiton though, but with set on sleeves and big pockets, and I love it very much. Maybe next step is a more accurate chiton?
So soft and pretty.
Wow that makeup looks amazing on you!
You look beautiful!
According to Wikipedia the ancient Greek pronunciation of χιτών (chiton) is [kʰitɔ̌ːn] - the /i/ sound is an i as in the word "it", the tiny h after the k indicated an aspirated k sound, and the diacritic on the ɔ̌ indicates a rising tone, plus the : after would suggest a lengthening of the o sound, an open o like in the word "body" or "lobby" perhaps. It's been a while since I studied IPA in linguistics. I'm rusty!
I discovered your channel long ago for unknown reasons (thanks UA-cam algorithms) and have always enjoyed your enthusiasm, attention to detail, cheery attitude and always positive vibes when talking about your passion, and simply watching you work as you skillfully recreate history. After a long day at work and as I am trying to wind down for the night, your voice is as about as relaxing as one can hope to hear from another human being. You're just a joy to watch and listen to.
You looked amazingly beautiful as always, but to be honest with you, this Greek style suits you in a way I can't explain. 23:16 I'm pretty sure there's a marble statue of you somewhere in Greece.
You're correct in that the chiton is one of the best for beginners to drape. When I did my bachelor, it was the first garment we were taught to drape and make and it really helped to start there. It gives an excellent introduction to manipulating fabric on a dress form or a human body, as you showed here, and is very forgiving when it comes to corrections.
Thanks for a great and interesting (as always) video💛💙
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching!
That does look comfortable. Thanks!
With or without make-up, you are stunning. I am new here and really love your content. You looks and clothing are truly beautiful. It shows that modesty is magical. Thanks
You look amazing! I think this colour suits you. I also love how happy you look in your recent videos, you seem to have so much fun making stuff! ❤ And with the chronic health issues, I hope you feel better and will feel better for long time, preferably always ❤