Yes, I saw them with my own eyes there in EICMA , and I was truly amazed by the identical copies with Harley Davidson and Can-Am... with unbelievable prices. I asked the man about the price of the Musatti and he told me that it was only three thousand dollars. Truly amazing. These bikes are a solution for low-income people who dream of riding famous brands.
First they come and you laugh, then they come with good quality and you still laugh, then they come for the third time with equal or better quality for a lower price, then you lose. It’s happening in front of our eyes. CFMoto, Kove, Benelli, Moto Morini. Time to take it seriously has nearly passed.
Anything luxury is bought with emotion, including these kind of bikes. I would admit, I bought one of these Chinese bikes before the quality is good, the difference is, you won’t feel there is soul and no heritage, no emotion at all. I sold it after a year and pretty sure never gonna buy again.
You’re burning EICMA 24 up, Alex‼ GREAT COVERAGE! New looks, now products, new ideas, it’s been GREAT, (to repeat ourselves). NOBODY “is” or has done it better, fact is NO ONE is even close to providing all the information you have given us. Can’t thank you enough. Best, Rola (Oregon / USA).👍🏻
Brother, I'm riding a Zontes 310T1. Single swingarm makes no sense, sport touring is just reving in S mode and forget E (E for Eeewww). Bucket of gasoline did last for over 350km in heavy traffic, and I was sold! Will consider a straight pipe, cheap free flow air filter and a remap. 29hp is more than enough for everything, but if those mods can crank 3 to 4 more ponies then I'm keeping that bike for a long time.
Good day, i watch your channel regularly, i was going to attend there, but didnt. I have a new sym joymax Z plus, before i had a nmax 125. Also are you going to do a video on the harley davidsons, would greatly appreciate if you could. Regards from pescara
The Wyche big twin is not a copy of an HD engine. If you look at the pushrod tubes it's not like an evo, a twin cam or M8. They look like the tubes on an old sportster (4 cams) but it doesn't look as if it's in unit with the gearbox. It would have helped if you had spent time not whizzing around with the camera like a demented fly but showing steady close-ups of the engine, primary and timing sides.
It's shot in 50fps you can get some clear stills quite easy from the video. I can confirm they don't look like any Harley engine I've ever seen. Similar in concept but no part was recognizable. And on the specs sheet it said they were 121ci or ~2000cc
@slacker2101 Yea no problem, when I filmed the video I didn't think anyone would be interested in these. I thought it would barely get any views. How wrong I was 😂
Like 80% of the CN bikes are exact copies of other already established bikes 🤣 Even the Engines used to be knockoffs of old Japanese engines, at least now they either make their own engines or kinda license it from the EU brand.
@@jpshollandHD: If we cannot innovate, then just let's increase the size. Or the price. Or change the color.: So many marketing options to chose from... 😄Milk that legacy cow while we still can😅
I‘m not surprized … I just wonder what’s inside the engine, they look like a carbon copy, yeah, but it would be interesting to know for how long they are going to build these … godd luck with finding parts … I would NOT buy any of these … I‘m not saying they are junk, but once they stop production of these models, where do you get the spare parts, for an engine that has been discontinued ? tell me …
I'm not familiar with the company. Some manufacturers like QJ, Zontes, and CF Moto are getting better and better with keeping parts in stock and supporting even discontinued models.
We said that in the 60s and early 70s in the UK.... Look what happend to the British bike industry. The Japanese just copy copy and they are no good.... 12v electrics oil tight engine electric start then the cb750 landed.... Game over.
Actually looks better than a HD Probably better quality for a faction of the price.
Great video Alex as always 🙏🇹🇭
Yes, I saw them with my own eyes there in EICMA , and I was truly amazed by the identical copies with Harley Davidson and Can-Am... with unbelievable prices. I asked the man about the price of the Musatti and he told me that it was only three thousand dollars. Truly amazing.
These bikes are a solution for low-income people who dream of riding famous brands.
First they come and you laugh, then they come with good quality and you still laugh, then they come for the third time with equal or better quality for a lower price, then you lose. It’s happening in front of our eyes. CFMoto, Kove, Benelli, Moto Morini. Time to take it seriously has nearly passed.
Anything luxury is bought with emotion, including these kind of bikes. I would admit, I bought one of these Chinese bikes before the quality is good, the difference is, you won’t feel there is soul and no heritage, no emotion at all. I sold it after a year and pretty sure never gonna buy again.
@@scalemodeltutor9841chính xác
You’re burning EICMA 24 up, Alex‼ GREAT COVERAGE! New looks, now products, new ideas, it’s been GREAT, (to repeat ourselves). NOBODY “is” or has done it better, fact is NO ONE is even close to providing all the information you have given us. Can’t thank you enough. Best, Rola (Oregon / USA).👍🏻
Thank you for watching the videos, glad my work is useful to so many :D
very nice
Brother, I'm riding a Zontes 310T1. Single swingarm makes no sense, sport touring is just reving in S mode and forget E (E for Eeewww). Bucket of gasoline did last for over 350km in heavy traffic, and I was sold!
Will consider a straight pipe, cheap free flow air filter and a remap. 29hp is more than enough for everything, but if those mods can crank 3 to 4 more ponies then I'm keeping that bike for a long time.
quiero que me regalen esta moto ¡
They change the name from Cross Wedge to Wyche 😂
With a motorcycle, you don't buy a product - you buy a relationship. And like any relationship, it eventually needs maintenance.
Yes! Especially with Harley Davidson 😂you have a one way relationship . You pay the dealership and pay pay pay 😂😂😂
Some cruiser/chopper motorcycles that are beautiful ,like Mitt and QJ ones ,idc if they are HD or not , cheapest HD in Greece starts at 19000€ 😂
Why can’t you hold the damn camera still so we can see it properly?
Good day, i watch your channel regularly, i was going to attend there, but didnt. I have a new sym joymax Z plus, before i had a nmax 125. Also are you going to do a video on the harley davidsons, would greatly appreciate if you could. Regards from pescara
1:39, 2:23 name
The second one said ROVER RL2000 on the sheet next to it.
The Wyche big twin is not a copy of an HD engine. If you look at the pushrod tubes it's not like an evo, a twin cam or M8. They look like the tubes on an old sportster (4 cams) but it doesn't look as if it's in unit with the gearbox. It would have helped if you had spent time not whizzing around with the camera like a demented fly but showing steady close-ups of the engine, primary and timing sides.
It's shot in 50fps you can get some clear stills quite easy from the video. I can confirm they don't look like any Harley engine I've ever seen. Similar in concept but no part was recognizable. And on the specs sheet it said they were 121ci or ~2000cc
@RideWithAlex thankyou for that. Sorry I was rather tetchy; it's a function of age and aches.
@slacker2101 Yea no problem, when I filmed the video I didn't think anyone would be interested in these. I thought it would barely get any views. How wrong I was 😂
I don't think the Italian air is doing you any good Alex, you are seeing 'mutton dressed as lamb', Old English quote!
Tout dépendra des tarifs aux states ou en Europe !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Uau …..
Like 80% of the CN bikes are exact copies of other already established bikes 🤣 Even the Engines used to be knockoffs of old Japanese engines, at least now they either make their own engines or kinda license it from the EU brand.
Harley on EICMA 2025: 3 liter V-twin.
😂😂😂
@@jpshollandHD: If we cannot innovate, then just let's increase the size. Or the price. Or change the color.: So many marketing options to chose from... 😄Milk that legacy cow while we still can😅
they do look smart =- that black one halfway through was as a fatboy copy ;;
it would not surprise me another American brand that has sold out to China !
It looks like a Harley but made out of Chinesium. Would not trust it not to snap...
I‘m not surprized … I just wonder what’s inside the engine, they look like a carbon copy, yeah, but it would be interesting to know for how long they are going to build these … godd luck with finding parts … I would NOT buy any of these … I‘m not saying they are junk, but once they stop production of these models, where do you get the spare parts, for an engine that has been discontinued ? tell me …
I'm not familiar with the company. Some manufacturers like QJ, Zontes, and CF Moto are getting better and better with keeping parts in stock and supporting even discontinued models.
Total copycats, American bikers/motorcyclists would never buy.
We said that in the 60s and early 70s in the UK.... Look what happend to the British bike industry. The Japanese just copy copy and they are no good.... 12v electrics oil tight engine electric start then the cb750 landed.... Game over.
@@cedhome7945spot on. It's happening again
Chinese copy oh HD 😂😂😂😂😂
Greatest form of flattery is a copy. Maybe all HDs were really made in China 🇨🇳 all the time.
Why the hell Chinese copy everything from USA.. ... In this case it looks like Honda goldwing......