Great video, tremendous! Them 47s worked hard, always to there limits! The virgin livery don't look that bad! Fantastic! Really enjoyed, thanks for sharing! Keep up the fabulous work! Take care, stay safe and well, keep up the fabulous, inspiring and enjoyable videos we all appreciate your time and effort into them!
Another great video! I remember Nuneaton drags, but the batch I travelled on were around 1974-5 when the NEC and International station were being built. Well worth the time spent shuttling to and fro a couple of times on my Railtourer.
Oh now I don't remember that bit about Birmingham International diverts, but I had only just got into the hobby in mid 1974, but I was there when the Queen opened the station.
@@antman09ful1 by 74 the diverts may have ended, I just can't remember that much detail of my early (wasted!) teen years. It probably wasn't 1972 because that was the year of my first summer Railtourers, it may then just have been 1973. I remember it being very hot one Sunday and the Nuneaton panel failing with us stuck just outside. We sat for a very long time - the 47 had no ETH so everybody was baking. I was hanging out of the window for most of the journey anyway so I already had my spot. There were very few enthusiasts around which looking back is quite surprising.
@@antman09ful1 Those 1970s Railtouring days were superb - no cares & no brain back then! Hopefully we'll be back to normal next year so I'll try to copy a few of my Railtourer days over the spring, summer or autumn (led by weather & family commitments) because that will be 50 years since my first ticket and I can see what's changed. A typical day in '72 was from hometown to New St, a quick trip to Solihull and back for a Western/Class 52 journey. Then possibly to Wolves/Shrewsbury-Hereford (Class 37 + 3 coaches because of DMU shortage)/ Worcester/Gloucester/New St (to check on the evening Western)/possibly Wolves & back (Class 81/86/85) then back home. There were a couple of side trips back then to Reading, Bristol and London Euston using Excess Fare tickets bought from the Guard. Me a youngster leaving home at 8am and returning at 10pm including a trip to London - no mobiles, no support & just enough cash for a cuppa or 2 and Underground tickets to Waterloo, Liverpool St., Kings X & Paddington
Great footage Antman09ful1, Back in the 1980's it seemed to be every Sunday the Euston trains would have a variety of locos hauling them to/fro Nuneaton, as mentioned below we would see class 20's (often twinned up)58's, 56's 47's, I am sure a couple of times we got rerouted via the Aston-Stetchford loop--we would leave toward Wolverhampton and turn off at Soho junction and go from there. At New Street it would be a guess what loco would be hauling and if it was unusual that ride to Nuneaton got crowded! I would stay on until Rugby and come back, so much extra fun with a WMPTE Daytripper ticket! Happy Days :-)
Yes mate they were very happy days indeed, I wish we still had loco hauled trains to travel on instead of these plastic units. These days they stick a bus on if there is any diverts around the Birmingham area. Thank you for your interest in my latest old unseen video.
Yes spent many Sundays behind class 50s, 56s, 58s, 37s, 47s from the mid 80s to the early 90s. I lived in Nuneaton so it was a bonus. You could get a normal return ticket to Birmingham & run up and down all day as the tickets were never checked between Nuneaton / New Street with it being diverted.
As long as Ray on the barrier didnt recognise you (he knew most of us locals) and shout across "oyyyycome ere" as you moved between platform 5 and platform 2 and grip you. LOL Les on the other hand when he was on duty didnt give a hoot
I remember the early to mid 80s when it was almost solid 56s and 58s. And a regular Sunday thing for years , major upgrades I assumed. That was the pre DVT days when the trains were mk 2fs with a mk 1 buffet and BG. Same era as occassional 40s on Sunday Manchester to Birmingham trains.
That's great mate, I remember them going past SY many times but in 80s I didn't have a video recorder, But I must have photos of them as I took photos of nameplates in them days. Thanks for watching my old footage.
@@antman09ful1 new street is a morgue now...In those days we were young. 56s on the cannock drags to new street for the nunny drags. It was a full time hobby in those days..
Very nice Mike, they literally don't make them like this anymore - when were the last Pendolino drags this way........? I remember back to the days of 58s on the drags(even the odd 40!), and filmed 47s on them back in the 1990s. What about Water Orton station though - the platform looked like a lawn with a tree in the middle!
Don't think a Pendo has ever been dragged Darren, I have seen many locos passing SY on a Sunday afternoon, but didn't have a camcorder in them days. I think Water Orton platform was better in the old days than it is now, and you can't get to the end of it.
Was that while the flyover was being built/improved to save the B'ham Leicester services crossing the WCML? I seem to remember something like this when playing rugby at the Old Ed's in Weddington
Remember those drags into London st Pancras,due to engineering around Euston, services from Liverpool lime St ran via Nuneaton,South Wigston curve onto mml dragged from Nuneaton by cl47 etc, then switched to the juice at Bedford, October 91',when this happened think also holyhead-euston hsts went this way,or not sure thought some sets came into Leicester, reversed???
How smart that all Virgin liveried rake on the first one looked. Second train (mot counting the Turbostar*) was interesting; EWS locos top & tail. * though it's nice to see Central Trains livery again isn't it 🙋♀️
Evening Mike. Really good look back especially with those 47’s working hard 🤣 Looking back the Virgin livery didn’t look that bad 🤔 I’m in Burslem tonight. Cheers Stevie.
Yes wish we still had times like that, these days they just put a bus on. Will have to look up Burslem, is it by Nottingham, will check to see if it is. Keep safe Stevie. Mike.
Is this on the XC Leicester - Birmingham route ? Also where is the first place ? Great video it’s nice to see the amazing locomotives that once ran the WCML. I remember them running but not them being dragged.
I’ve seen the locomotives and traction in service, but I never got to see them being dragged. So my last sentence was a bit strange, but yes, I’ve seen them in service.
@@antman09ful1 yes it was m8 I don't recall the 58s number as I was more of a basher back then .and it would be great if you could find the gen for the hst as I only live up the road from attenbrough Junction thanks for your time my friend its much appreciated 👍
4:12. The little toot and wave. Class.
Yeah I saw that myself, thanks for your interest.
Great video, tremendous! Them 47s worked hard, always to there limits! The virgin livery don't look that bad! Fantastic! Really enjoyed, thanks for sharing! Keep up the fabulous work!
Take care, stay safe and well, keep up the fabulous, inspiring and enjoyable videos we all appreciate your time and effort into them!
Thank you very much matey, so pleased you enjoyed this old footage of mine. Regards Mike.
@@antman09ful1 Anytime!
But there is no high speed country, therefore they could do the job ! Nice Video ! Regards from Germany !
Good to see your clips from over 20 years ago. Not many of us about " in those days" MORE PLEASE................Mike in Wales
OK Mike, will sort another for the weekend, I need to catch up with your last two uploads.
Great Mike, never heard of the Nuneaton drags before. Cheers. 👍
Oh well you are a long way from Midland David, thank you for taking a look David.
I sopped. I looked and I listened. And I quite enjoyed it. thank you
That is good Keith, I lov to find them signs.
excellent shots of nuneaton drag great horns too 👍
Cheers Barry, days we will never see again. Thanks Mike.
Certainly had a few for haulage back in the day Mike, with 37s too....great memories.
Yeah I remember you telling me of your early days of this hobby Matthew.
Great footage, thanks for sharing.
From the days before 'operation bus' when things were done properly.....
You are so right mate, thanks for a great comment. Mike.
Another great video! I remember Nuneaton drags, but the batch I travelled on were around 1974-5 when the NEC and International station were being built. Well worth the time spent shuttling to and fro a couple of times on my Railtourer.
Oh now I don't remember that bit about Birmingham International diverts, but I had only just got into the hobby in mid 1974, but I was there when the Queen opened the station.
@@antman09ful1 by 74 the diverts may have ended, I just can't remember that much detail of my early (wasted!) teen years. It probably wasn't 1972 because that was the year of my first summer Railtourers, it may then just have been 1973. I remember it being very hot one Sunday and the Nuneaton panel failing with us stuck just outside. We sat for a very long time - the 47 had no ETH so everybody was baking. I was hanging out of the window for most of the journey anyway so I already had my spot. There were very few enthusiasts around which looking back is quite surprising.
I have footage of the drags up to around 2001 I’m sure with the virgin class 57s doing the job.
@@pappakilo3965 It sounds like you had some interesting days.
@@antman09ful1 Those 1970s Railtouring days were superb - no cares & no brain back then! Hopefully we'll be back to normal next year so I'll try to copy a few of my Railtourer days over the spring, summer or autumn (led by weather & family commitments) because that will be 50 years since my first ticket and I can see what's changed. A typical day in '72 was from hometown to New St, a quick trip to Solihull and back for a Western/Class 52 journey. Then possibly to Wolves/Shrewsbury-Hereford (Class 37 + 3 coaches because of DMU shortage)/ Worcester/Gloucester/New St (to check on the evening Western)/possibly Wolves & back (Class 81/86/85) then back home. There were a couple of side trips back then to Reading, Bristol and London Euston using Excess Fare tickets bought from the Guard. Me a youngster leaving home at 8am and returning at 10pm including a trip to London - no mobiles, no support & just enough cash for a cuppa or 2 and Underground tickets to Waterloo, Liverpool St., Kings X & Paddington
More great archive stuff Mike.👍🏻
Cheers Paul, I call them the great days of our hobby.
@@antman09ful1 100% Dead on.
Excellent footage as always, enjoyed watching your catches from days we won't see again, glad you caught so much footage from this era 👍
Thanks mate I have more from other years of the Nuneaton drags.
Super archive footage Mike. Well done 🤓 stay safe 💙
Thank you Tony, I will be getting out out Jail on the 29/03.
Great footage Antman09ful1, Back in the 1980's it seemed to be every Sunday the Euston trains would have a variety of locos hauling them to/fro Nuneaton, as mentioned below we would see class 20's (often twinned up)58's, 56's 47's, I am sure a couple of times we got rerouted via the Aston-Stetchford loop--we would leave toward Wolverhampton and turn off at Soho junction and go from there. At New Street it would be a guess what loco would be hauling and if it was unusual that ride to Nuneaton got crowded! I would stay on until Rugby and come back, so much extra fun with a WMPTE Daytripper ticket! Happy Days :-)
Yes mate they were very happy days indeed, I wish we still had loco hauled trains to travel on instead of these plastic units.
These days they stick a bus on if there is any diverts around the Birmingham area. Thank you for your interest in my latest old unseen video.
I remember very well, 56's & 58's in the early 90's
That great Kevin, I was into taking photos of nameplates in them days, I never got a camcorder till 1995 so I missed the good stuff on the drags.
Nice video Mike i love a trip down memory lane thanks for sharing . syd :) stay safe mate .
Glad you enjoyed this old stuff Syd, think I might have said before that I have a lot more I've never shared. Mike.
Imagine a day at Water Orton with these coming through as well 😁
Wow the platform would be very crowded Ben. Cheers.
Yes spent many Sundays behind class 50s, 56s, 58s, 37s, 47s from the mid 80s to the early 90s. I lived in Nuneaton so it was a bonus. You could get a normal return ticket to Birmingham & run up and down all day as the tickets were never checked between Nuneaton / New Street with it being diverted.
Yeah I know what you mean Mark, brilliant days we will never see again. These days they put a bus on if you are lucky.
As long as Ray on the barrier didnt recognise you (he knew most of us locals) and shout across "oyyyycome ere" as you moved between platform 5 and platform 2 and grip you. LOL
Les on the other hand when he was on duty didnt give a hoot
August Bank Holiday 2001 - I was on a 'drag' going to Euston from New Street.
Good days Mark, thanks for comment.
Brilliant video! I really enjoyed this :)
Thank you so much mate.
Cracking! Would be nice to see & hear 47’s up this line on Sundays now.
That line has seen some amazing sights on the Sunday drags in the 80s and 90s
I remember the early to mid 80s when it was almost solid 56s and 58s. And a regular Sunday thing for years , major upgrades I assumed. That was the pre DVT days when the trains were mk 2fs with a mk 1 buffet and BG. Same era as occassional 40s on Sunday Manchester to Birmingham trains.
Now them were bloody great day Garth, with I had a camcorder in them days, I do remember seeing 58s doing the drags passing SY.
I remember the Nuneaton Drags from the mid-1980s. And at least once, I rode behind a 58
That's great mate, I remember them going past SY many times but in 80s I didn't have a video recorder, But I must have photos of them as I took photos of nameplates in them days.
Thanks for watching my old footage.
@@antman09ful1 Our paths definitely crossed! Went to SY regularly back in the day.
Had 20s,31s,37s,40s,50s,56s,58s on the nunny drags. Made the week after a mad week on the skegs. All so missed 😂😂
Yes they were great interesting days which we will never see again Paul. Thanks for viewing.
@@antman09ful1 spent many sat nites on new street for the first one Sunday morning which was usually a 56.
@@delticnapierdccsound4236 You was very dedicated to your hobby, sitting on New St all night, you can't do that these days I bet.
@@antman09ful1 new street is a morgue now...In those days we were young. 56s on the cannock drags to new street for the nunny drags. It was a full time hobby in those days..
Very nice Mike, they literally don't make them like this anymore - when were the last Pendolino drags this way........? I remember back to the days of 58s on the drags(even the odd 40!), and filmed 47s on them back in the 1990s. What about Water Orton station though - the platform looked like a lawn with a tree in the middle!
Don't think a Pendo has ever been dragged Darren, I have seen many locos passing SY on a Sunday afternoon, but didn't have a camcorder in them days.
I think Water Orton platform was better in the old days than it is now, and you can't get to the end of it.
Was that while the flyover was being built/improved to save the B'ham Leicester services crossing the WCML? I seem to remember something like this when playing rugby at the Old Ed's in Weddington
No Stuart Birmingham Rugby line closed.
I can even remember when they were dragged to Bedford then ran 'under the wires' in to St. Pancras.....
Now I don't know about them drags. Cheers.
@@antman09ful1 There are pictures of electrics at St. Pancras on the net....also sent you a message on a different video about 43 103....
Remember those drags into London st Pancras,due to engineering around Euston, services from Liverpool lime St ran via Nuneaton,South Wigston curve onto mml dragged from Nuneaton by cl47 etc, then switched to the juice at Bedford, October 91',when this happened think also holyhead-euston hsts went this way,or not sure thought some sets came into Leicester, reversed???
Yes I do recall them taking place now.
Decent footage 👌
Thanks mate.
How smart that all Virgin liveried rake on the first one looked. Second train (mot counting the Turbostar*) was interesting; EWS locos top & tail.
* though it's nice to see Central Trains livery again isn't it 🙋♀️
Yes I agree AT, we forget what Central trains did long distance services from Brum. I have always liked the virgin livery. Cheers Mike.
Nice spoon collection always strange to see an electric loco ‘off the wires’
Well it was the norm in the 80s and 90s for that line Tom, now you get a bus to take you from A to B.
Evening Mike. Really good look back especially with those 47’s working hard 🤣 Looking back the Virgin livery didn’t look that bad 🤔 I’m in Burslem tonight. Cheers Stevie.
Yes wish we still had times like that, these days they just put a bus on.
Will have to look up Burslem, is it by Nottingham, will check to see if it is. Keep safe Stevie. Mike.
Oh yes Stoke on Trent.
Nice video Mike :)
Thanks Simon.
I didn’t get too see these Mike, although I do remember when 47s dragged trains with 86s down to Gt Yarmouth.
That is right Bryan, I will share footage of that operation one day. Cheers Mike.
Great days. I covered some of those on my channel
Thanks Mark, I will have a look at your channel. Mike.
Saw a class 50 that had dragged an electric into trent valley and then took one out, happily snapping away only to find no film in the camera.
That was really bad luck Paul, I bet that was in the 70s or 80s.
Thanks for watching.
Is this on the XC Leicester - Birmingham route ? Also where is the first place ?
Great video it’s nice to see the amazing locomotives that once ran the WCML. I remember them running but not them being dragged.
Yes, it is on that said line George, and filmed just past Whitacre Junction. thanks for checking out this old footage.
I’ve seen the locomotives and traction in service, but I never got to see them being dragged. So my last sentence was a bit strange, but yes, I’ve seen them in service.
I can remember Central Trains, never forget the saying “Central Trains! Go!”
I do m8 I remember a 58 working them on a Sunday
Yeah I'm sure it was you who mentioned that not long back.
I've been informed its possible 43102 is working 1C15 tomorrow mate.
@@antman09ful1 yes it was m8 I don't recall the 58s number as I was more of a basher back then .and it would be great if you could find the gen for the hst as I only live up the road from attenbrough Junction thanks for your time my friend its much appreciated 👍
@@antman09ful1 ps I forgot to say another fantastic video 👍I'm jealous of your footage
I don't have anymore info about tomorrow mate, sorry.
@@antman09ful1 no worries m8 I be out on the prowl any ways tc m8
I've never heard of the Nuneaton drags before.. what was their purpose .?
The WCML from Birmingham to Rugby was closed on Sundays and the trains were diverted via Nuneaton.
Wheres abouts was this taken in nuneaton??
No filming was done in Nuneaton.
Is this Shustoke?
Yes Mark.
And that was Prince Harry lending a hand at the end wasn't it
Well he is in the news at the moment.