Why it's so hard to get unemployment benefits
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
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Millions of Americans across the country have lost their jobs. But whether or not those people can get the unemployment benefits they deserve actually depends on where they live. In some states, more than two thirds of jobless people typically collect unemployment benefits. But in others, like Florida, fewer than one in 10 unemployed people get those benefits.
That massive difference has often been blamed on technology; Florida’s unemployment system is notoriously difficult to use. But technology doesn’t build itself. The real explanation requires a look at the ideology of the people who did.
Sources/further reading:
Ain’t No Sunshine: Fewer than One in Eight Unemployed Workers In Florida Is Receiving Unemployment Insurance (National Employment Law Project, 2015) s27147.pcdn.co...
Long Lines for Unemployment: How Did We Get Here and What Do We Do Now? (National Employment Law Project, April 2020) s27147.pcdn.co...
Reemployment Assistance Claims and Benefits Information System (State of Florida Auditor General, March 2019) flauditor.gov/...
The Automation of State Unemployment Systems (Corporate Cost Control, 2014) www.corporatec...
Florida blames troubled unemployment website entirely on vendor; feds heading here to help (Tampa Bay Times, 2014) www.tampabay.c...
Not all unemployed people get unemployment benefits; in some states, very few do (Pew Research Center, April 2020) www.pewresearc...
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If less than 10% of people are receiving benefits then the systems isn’t working. This should be a massive scandal
We’re trying.
It is a massive scandal
Big banks: “Too big to fail.”
Unemployment benefits policy: Designed to fail.
Rad Derry, it’s a reference to bill wurtz. He has a video called history of the world and at the Great Depression part he’s like they’re too big to fail, then it fails.
For those who don’t understand what “The system is rigged against us” means, here is one perfect example.
See also: Yesterday's elections in Georgia
@@AisuruMirai Voter suppression and Jim Crow laws still chugging in the southeast.
exactly
Nothing will be done but charities and funding the government just looks the other way
In Virginia...about $335 a week.
Because America has a messed up political system that doesn't cear for its citizens.
No government cares for its citizens
@@sudarshan3965 Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Finland?
@@Gabriel-pj2fc all comunist and extremely high taxes
not true
@@dylan.s4898 Paying high taxes creates a country where a lot of money can be put into education, healthcare, and a solid safety net in case someones business fails or if they lose their job. This creates a system where a person doesn't have to live every day in fear that their life will get ruined by a system where it's "everyone for themselves". Even though you might not agree with that, it's definitely examples where a government is set up to benefit the people, and not corporations.
How is the US still a first world country? The whole system is so broken there, I don't understand.
Because you they’ve got apple, Microsoft and Elon Musk I guess 😂
It's not lol, but they'll keep telling themselves that they are
Every country faces certain kinds of problems. There are good aspects of USA and then there are bad, like everything else in life
It's upto you what you focus on
The US is a massive country with a massive population. There are bound to be problems along the way. It's still a great country, it just has huge problems. Kind of like a mansion with mold. It's still a mansion... sure it'll make you sick if you don't fix it, but have you seen the view?
@@alexs1640 the problem is we know these problems and you have the resident caretaker of your mansion analogy refuses to listen. Then again some of these problems are by design. As they say not a bug but a feature.
As a Canadian student I've already received my second round of student unemployment benefits. Pains me to see how so many of our neighbours down south are struggling to even register.
USA EAGLE
Actually Neighbour is correct.
B Babbich
I’m thinking of moving to Canada. How are they people? Are people friendly and respectful?
ALL LIVES MATTER they spelled neighbours correct
@@God.sDaughter it depends where you go, who you are, and what you do. Overall I'd say we are a bit nicer.
Short answer: Politicians don't care about the majority.
Financial Shinanigan- True Story, it's just sad
@Milo The Dilophosaurus you make promises
Politicians don't care about bums! Why should they!
@@underdogtv2855 haha
As a Marylander I love my governor, but I’ve been waiting a month and have been approved.
I live in Canada and they set up a fund where recent post-secondary graduates can apply to get $1250 a month if COVID prevented them from being able to find work. The form took 5 minutes to fill out and was so simple and straightforward. Got my money no problem.
In Chile we get a box of food (only if you are really poor). The unemployment benefits are to keep your job but with a fraction of the pay and it get smaller every month.
Most of the people in the US are getting $900 per WEEK in unemployment which is more than alot of people would make at there jobs.
@@Vii905 yeah exactly.
That $1250 is very low considering how expense things are in Canada. In texas they provide you about $1000 a week with the cres act.
@@aaronrichards19886 is this mean, as a result, they chose to pay %10 of the people that unreasonable amount (according to you) than to pay all the people who deserves that help a fair amount?
Moral of the Story: "They don't care about us." -- Michael Jackson
The issues because they didn't want everyone to get the unemployment. I was on my first day trying to get it to 15 hours had to reapply every and correspond to all the random emails. Some weeks it was like I was working a full-time job
Daniel Jones yeah. I hav atleast 500-700 call attempts that I made trying to call unemployment benefits line for nearly 5 months in a row, JUST to get my unemployment benefits correct.
At least you got emails. This system in my state just leaves us in the dark.
lol I got my benefits almost instantly and I hardly even need them. whats even better is that the benefits are paying me almost double my paycheck for just trying to find a job haha
Being poor is a full time job. It’s expensive to be poor.
So that's what happens when "Florida man" designs a website
"Florida man" is from Ohio.
LikeUnto Buddha Ohio Man is from Pittsburgh
@@warrcoww6717
Florida man not even from Florida. Typical Florida man, always gotta be difficult.
@@LikeUntoBuddha Did he build Ohio's unemp site, too? If so, that would explain the troubles we have here with it.
for 70 MILLION dollars !
Americans: "So hard to get unemployment benefits."
Unemployed in Denmark: * Laughs in hygge *
Meanwhile in New Zealand, daughter comes home to avoid Covid in Europe. 4 days for new SIM card to be delivered during lockdown. Then she can phone Work and Income New Zealand. Gets benefit 2 days later.
Same with Canada. cerb is so easy to apply for. And if you set up to get your tax refund automatically deposited into your account you get cerb within a week. And they made it east 2000 per eligible person.
Comparing Europe to the US is an insult at this point.
@@idyllsend6481 an insult to the US
@YoshiPeach Mario And? They live better than US :)
Long answer: Watch the vid
Short answer: politics.
Long answer: Watch the vid
Short answer: Republicans
Long answer: watch a 6 minute video
Short answer: watch a 6 minute video
Golly, just don't have the attention span to watch something that long!
Mark Clayton wrong
Capitalism is the answer you were looking for.
Short answer... Crapitalism.
i still haven't received a unemployment check in over 3 MONTHS!!!!
Praying for u🙏🏼
Im in the same boat. I finally got to actually talk to someone with unemployment and I was told I wouldnt get paid until August or September. Week 12 of pending and told Id have to wait another 2-3 months. All the people who have had to wait has long has me will probably get the same message.
Same
Same here.
Get a job
When I thought you couldn't convince me that Florida would be any worse than I already perceived.
moral of the story: if you’re poor in america, have fun
If you're poor in a 2nd or 3rd world country you will live in a bridge eating garbage.
@@goldiortm5351
Yea that happens here too I've seen it.
@@goldiortm5351 the same thing happens in america
america isnt only nyc, la and san francisco like what people show you on the news. the poor in america live paycheck to paycheck and are typically one illness away from a lifetime of debt
@@kayharukawa youtube keeps deleting my comments these sickos.
If you're poor in America you can just pull yourself up by the bootstraps
Meanwhile in Canada: *Gives $2K every month to every unemployed citizen who applies for the emergency benefit*
Also, you'll be keeping the same healthcare. Most of our workers laid off here will not be doing so.
And it keeps people fed, housed and safe. We also don't lose access to healthcare if we lose our job. USA has to do some serious rethinking because this pandemic has proved that the GOP idea of small government, for profit healthcare and every man for himself at the expense of society cant work in a time like this.
While this is true, there a many exclusions to this financial aid. You can apply for it, get the money, but once the government will start checking who is really eligible in a couple of months/years, people will have to give it back + interest. It solves the problem for the moment, but it only delays the problem to a later date.
@@hobo101101101 isnt most of the aid a grant?
Florida is extremely broken.
Imagine being disabled, but unable to collect ANY disability benefits because you haven't worked before ... because of your disability.
During my time as an emergency worker, it was startling to find so many people without insurance because they couldn't afford the bare minimum.
And sadly, this affects POC more on average.
Again, Florida is EXTREMELY broken.
Pls , make a video about "how to remove dictatorship from power"
VOTE
Asking for a country 😅
We tried that, it failed, so we must vote for Biden.
Hi check or research about philippines EDSA revolution.
It will cost lives. If you ready to sacrifice. Then reply me. I'll instruct you further.
Applied for Unemployment in Florida 2 months ago, still have yet to receive it.
Watching this as I still have no employment or any unemployment to fall back on lol. America needs total reform.
Save up some money and move to Canada, Australia, Ireland... or if you’re lucky enough to be fluent in another language you could move to that country. I’m moving to Toronto as soon as I get my FAA aircraft mechanic certification. I love the culture where I live (New York) but I don’t think I can stand the United States anymore.
USA is a democratic country. The people wanted and voted for this life. They have no else but themselves to blame.
@@jjia6304 no we are a republic and our representatives have been bought out and no longer represent us. Money is politics has corrupted our government.
It needs a revolution, reform is impossible at this point
I really hope after trumps act the American people will wake up and realize their democracy is melting away.
No one:
Florida: hibbity hoppity your jobs are my property.
That what happens when we elect an alien as our governor.
Florida doesn't have their act together? SHOOOOCKKKINNNGGG
Found the BB fan
Everybody in the comments is saying the US’ welfare system is broken, but they fail to realize it was built to be difficult. If welfare was easy to obtain, more people would feel less of a need to get a job, this explains why welfare is hard to get and payments are low, and it also explains why the US’ poverty rate is lower then the “developed” countries it’s compared to. The poverty rate in the US is only 12%, compared to 20% in the UK and 15% in Germany. Considering the US’ size and population, these numbers are amazing, the welfare system is not broken, but instead effectively encouraging people to get jobs.
As a software developer, the bad experience achieved described about Florida's unemployment form is very likely to come from an unexperience team and not by design. Delloite has multiple teams, some are good and others are bad, there are differences withing this team about the UX they want to implement and the programming skills and features that are needed in order for the UX to be actually good and usable. I've seen teams made this kind of errors a lot and I guarantee they were trying to suceed, but weren't ready for their goals
Did this video explain how the problems with the site were political and not due to programming errors?
And then they launch before testing it?
I wish I didn’t have to scroll so far to see the screaming flaw in this piece. Deloitte and other contracting firms are infamous for subpar developers. The way media reports things, it’s no wonder we have such divisive politics. This video was the liberal equivalent to a Fox News panel.
@@matrinoxtm it showed typical programming errors caused by bad practices and unsuccessful projects and then said that it had to be proposital to be so bad. Kinda like job shamming
@@Hamzahyn4 I don't know, maybe, probably actually. Forms can be very complex and it seems they went for the fancy version without having the experience of knowing most of their edge cases to test. I am just saying, this stuff happens all the time with a lot of companies, it is not conclusive as pictured that it was on purpose
US be like: “we don’t need unemployment benefits”
Canada be like: “sorry, government is paying me too much money”
Any other developed country too
@B Babbich cause its 1 country.
Video: Why it's so hard to get unemployment benefits
Reality: Spend entire video talking about Florida
Because Florida is the worst.
Actually good point. Title should be more precise
The title is wrong, "Why government don't want to spend money" seems more accurate for me...
good joke
Lol
They can just PRINT THEIR OWN MONEY I DONT GET IT!!!!!
@@skyforce2132 this will cause inflation
Skyforce 213 the prices will be higher in goods and items because there’s no other things to spend the printed money on. It would also make money even more useless the more you have of it.
It was surprisingly easy in California. Just sign up and about two weeks later I get a card in the mail.
True it is very easy in California. But it dont pay much considering it barely will cover rent and I'm in the central valley.
Its terrible in Oregon 😂
For the website not to work either two things have happened:
The contractors cut corners on the code of the website creating a vast amount of issues that could occur.
The contractors were deliberately told go make sure the system was not smooth making it much harder to apply online.
"united" states.
Ikr?
clever....
every country goes through stuff its normal
Divide states makes more sense
Hugh G. Rection not like the us thoufh
thank you so much for covering this, as a Florida resident it means a lot to us. The state has completely abandoned us.
My daughter returned to New Zealand to avoid Covid 19 in Europe. It took 4 days for her new SIM card to be delivered during lockdown, so she could phone Work and Income New Zealand. Got her benefit 2 days later.
We have competent government in New Zealand. We also have no Covid 19 anymore. You all need to vote better
Vote better in an bipolar system
New Zealand benefit system isn't that good really. Mainly thanks to National gutting the system and imposing more restrictions. I would say she was lucky, but many people with health issues have issues getting the benefit or even help finding jobs suitable for them. So many people can't get benefit cause their partner earns "enough" (not really). So they are potentially trapped in that relationship...
@@YamiHoOu LOL. Can I just point out the irony of saying NZ benefits are not good enough. Where the video was about a system set up so they can't get any?
@@namenlos4198 LOL. I'd never thought of describing it as "bipolar". Well done - and true!
Forget about the application processes. The narrow definition to qualify in the first place is ridiculously high. I got laid off before it reached Oregon's minimum base hours period and it wasn't related to COVID so I qualify for $0 from both Oregon's UI and the PUA. Wheres the law that helps us?!?!?
it's just typical US
Yep, doesn’t even surprise me
The US = Plutocracy
Had to call the NM unemployment office 150 times over the course of 2 days JUST to get on hold to talk to an agent. Last time we called a month ago, we had to wait 8.5 HOURS on hold to talk to an agent.
This is why some states wanted to reopen early
In Ireland we’re getting 350 a week and my part time job only earned 150 a week so I’ve hit the jackpot haha all college students are rich now as we’ve gotten around 5.5k since it started
same in Australia $550 from work $750 covid benefit
Nice! Here in US I made $260 on UE. Not including the extra $600 which would make it $860 every week. My job I only make about $3-400 a week. This has put me and my lady in a better situation for when we go to find our first home together
In Canada we’re getting 2000$ a month which is nice since I’m only 17 and was making around 500 a month before
That is horrible
@Granpda Corey that is awful.
Why is there so many problems with America’s governance. Y’all haven’t had an update in like 250 years
Took me 2 months and endless hours of phone calls to get my unemployment in florida
In Minnesota, all it took was to answer 6 multiple choice questionnaires online.
The American Dream is a killing machine.
American dream is an illusion that the Government place to control their population
The American Dream is the greatest concept of mankind, socialism and welfare is a killing machine
God this country is a mess
It's more fuked that the school system it's self.
The Great Depression 2
The even greater depression
Oh that started back in the Mid 70's.
it should be called the GOP Recession because their policies or lack thereof is making it worse
@@imisstoronto3121 Not for the "right" people it isn't sadly.
Again, so happy I'm European
where in the EU tho ?
@@PHlophe Anywhere is better than in the USA. I come from Greece and I lived in the USA for years. I feel much safer living in Greece than in the USA.
@@dimiathan ❤
What is the Different
Stay in Europe!
This should be called "Why it's so hard to get unemployment benefits in the United States".
More like "Why It's So Hard to Get Unemployment Benefits in Florida"
I live in New York State, and it only took me three weeks to get my benefits. I applied the Tuesday after I lost my job, as recommended due to the first letter of my last name. I then certified for my benefits weekly until my claim was processed and I started to get my payments. Michael Zeita is right, it's more of a Florida/conservative state issue than an all over America thing. I'm actually pulling in much more money on this unemployment claim than I was working. I was able to pay for an online course, and a new computer to take it with, which will help me get a work from home type job when I'm finished with the course. Not all of America us heartless.
"They got money for war, but don't have money to feed the poor" - 2Pac
PRINT OUT THE FORMS and mail them in!! It worked for me. In the U.S. youll get an extra 600 a week from the start of pandemic till end of July. That helps alot. Dont do it online!!! PS. itll take about a month to get anything in the mail. So be patient..those 600 a week are worth it
Please do a show on how Washington has frozen unemployment for five weeks now. There is no way to get a response from them. They said they needed to verify identity of everyone. I complied within 24 hours. I am now homeless due to this. I dont know if I will ever be able to get off the streets of Seattle now.
What a coincidence that's exactly how Tennessee unemployment website is. I lost my job April 5th the following morning I started filing or trying to file on the website and I spent 60 of the next 72 hours attempting to finish the application. Now it has been almost 10 weeks and I still haven't received any of my benefits or even an update on my claim. People are suffering and politicians are playing mental gymnastics with the raw data
U = United
S = States
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A = aay we are greedy
Greed is good
"Greatest country in the world" lololololoolololol
Yea that just delusional nationalism.
I've been waiting over a month and not heard anything not even an email
Glad i dont live in the us
We are too
Terrified I live in Florida.
@@ForAnAngel sorry to hear that, best of luck buddy
Vito Lebommil America isn’t that bad you guys are overreacting
Yeah because you're lazy and don't want to work and rather steal people's money, I understand
I live in Florida and have been unemployed since December 31st of last year. I have been never able to figure out the unemployment website so I have not been able to get the resources I need. I luckily have a good family member that is able to financially support me in these times.
I and most of my friends and coworkers are living this nightmare right now.
It’s Oky. Don’t worry all will be well soon. Hold on. Don’t give up. It’s going to be alright. We all are in this together.
I got kicked off the Florida unemployment site at least 30 times over the course of a week when I was first trying to file. It was absolutely not designed to help anyone but the state.
In India, nobody gets even a single penny.
I used to complain about my country´s way of work, believing that it was like that because we are a developing country. I used to believe that if I lived in, the USA, for instance, my life would be a lot easier and that would fix my life. Turns out, even in the US and european countries are having difficulties with these things. I stopped despising my country and think of it as a world problem, instead.
Last time I was this early, Vox never yet existed.
Can confirm, it took me 2 months and filling out the same 30 page form 4 times before I could get my unemployment :/
Wait it is? It was extremely easy for me in CA. It was actually harder for me to tell them I don't need it anymore
Edit: For a bit (might still be true) you didn't even need to submit a biweekly paper or online report
In my state you can be denied for making too little money. Happened to my son, he didn’t earn enough in the fall of last year . ( and he’d been out of work for a couple of months , thankfully he found a better job than the one he left)
Once again, this is a bruh moment
Bruh
We have 42 million applying for unemployment benefits and Trump is out here pretending the country is the best it has ever been
no he isn't
Imagine working hard for your money and then the government takes it so they can give it to someone who refuses to work.
So many new jobs in the last 4 years but liberals and their victim status are as lazy as ever
I hope i dont lose my job, the thought of losing the one thing that keeps me alive and puts a roof over my head scares me
is it just me or is Vox becoming the new OG discovery channel?
Idk but I like it.
They could be, but they focus on the US too much
@@kubilius11 it's the only country that matters
Discovery is also an American media company, but they cover a variety of topics from all around the world
It's happening in New Jersey too! There is such a burden and challenge in accessing unemployment benefits. I know people who are months behind on payments and accessing those services and no way to contact a representative, no follow up via email and no way to navigate the online system because of outstanding claims and applicants.
For me it’s because I’m employed
what if you lost your job?
I was just saying how the unemployment system in this country is rooted in Victorian era thinking and this video only reinforces that.
Best country in the world (only if you're a billionaire).
It's not any better two years later. The website where I'm at is still broken and you only get one hour in one day to call for an interview. Doors are closed to anyone who tries to contact anyone in person.
I live in Pennsylvania which has been 100% Democrat run for years now.
This is on purpose. They get to wave around unemployment is down when nobody can get on unemployment.
Corona infecting people be like: 1:30
The more i learn about America, the more I realized the system is broken. I always admire, US, compared to where I live.. But seeing this.. This is just pretty sad, so deeply saddened me.
haha money printer goes brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
When has government ever simplified, streamlined or made anything cheaper and more efficient?
They don't want you on the dole, they don't make money that way.
The government doesn't make money anyways? You do understand how Treasury bonds and the deficit work, correct?
Is this some sort of American joke I'm too German to understand?
So that's why Illinois unemployment system (IDES) asks each time you use it "please rate the ease/difficulty..." If it's easy, they fix it to be difficult.
Vox video #245 on why America is in fact not the best nation on Earth.
It’s not.
NC's unemployment website is JUST like this! Reloads with every click and crashed at a different point every time I've tried to fill it out.
Thanos, just cleanse the US already. It's messed up here, we need a re-do.
So glad I live in Canada where there is one unemployment system that is very easy to apply and access, speaking from experience.
They should have done it like in the UK
Amen 🇬🇧
Unemployment is a joke. I don’t even know why I even try to apply for unemployment anymore. Get denied every time even though I’ve been denied for the business lying to the unemployment office. Then if you appeal, they set a date so far out ahead that you often forget the date.
It’s a legit waste of time anymore to file for it. Get denied for calling in sick to work when it’s a health violation to serve food while sick yet you can’t even get a sick day.
The government should make it easier!
YES! YES! PREACH IT!
nowhere in this world, you'll find someone giving you money easily. but it's always fast as lightning when they take our money.
My dad once said, "it's true money is not everything in this world, but everything needs money".
ive never been this early thanks vox
In Poland to get an unemployment benefit you need to work at least one year straight without any breaks, and only on a specific kind of agreement, and you still ate guaranteed to get about $100-150 per month.
Can y'all make a video on police reform and defunding the police?
It would be really helpful.
Check the new John Oliver video om this topic.
Applied and got rejected for my last job but somehow got accepted for the job before that now I'm getting 1502 every 2 weeks
God bless America
Stay strong everyone ✊🏾✊🏽✊🏼
Same to you, I hope you have a great day.
❤️
NJ is a mess too! Wasted funds, bloated govt worker salary/benefits, neglect in modernizing essential systems, etc.
Now do the billion-dollar Obamacare website ...
how do americans stand up every day without vomiting of frustration over the garbage system they live in? seriously, stand up for yourselves, big corporations and lobbying controling your live is NOT normal
Boy am I glad I live in the EU.
Us in the USA are too, Stay there!
Imagine being glad you live in a nanny state that taxes half your income to pay for your lazy neighbors
@@johngivsosi3905 interesting, the country I live in taxes 30% of my income and I have free healthcare, complete safety, very good public transport and all that. It's the same in the US right?
Should be illegal to ever ban paper or in-person as an option
When I see this I am really happy that I live in Belgium cuz we do have good healthcare and unemployment help.
Good, stay there
You also get taxed half your income because you live in a dystopian welfare state hellhole
John Givsosi the irony in this statement 😂😂😂
So glad that we have it so much simpler here in Singapore
They just need to close their internet browser, then reopen it and log back in. They may need to try this once or twice to be successful.
Also if it's a runtime error, details can be enabled by setting the customErrors tag to "Off" in the Web.Config file.
All very clear and it's users' fault.™ 😁
Of course... somebody always profits from someone else's hunger...