Who Buffs Ayaka the Most || Damage Comparison [ Genshin Impact ]

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  • @_grainos
    @_grainos  9 місяців тому +4

    ua-cam.com/video/AzQpnkhAgis/v-deo.htmlsi=eUCJZ6WI_C0iRk4e
    This video for Furina burst lvl 10 max fanfare buff DMG.. (if you are dissatisfied in this one..😅)

  • @f4llenleaves
    @f4llenleaves 9 місяців тому +41

    Someone was kind enough to bring shenhe to a domain for my ayaka. Still shocked how they effortlessly turned ayaka into a beast (w my c2r1 kazuha). Hopefully I can get shenhe because I've been missing her for years 😭 her weapon is waiting for her

    • @_grainos
      @_grainos  9 місяців тому +1

      Haha.. ikr... She is made for Ayaka.... I missed her in my own account too..🥲 got Diluc...
      Hope you get her when she comes next... We will probably have triple banners from 4.5.. so she might have a rerun after lantern rite.. in April I guess...

    • @kausaru._
      @kausaru._ 7 місяців тому

      exact same situation here, i hsve her weapon when trying to get mistplitter ;-; good luck for you

    • @IgorBehling
      @IgorBehling 6 місяців тому

      @@_grainos I came from to future to say. No

    • @sheberhrbbr2388
      @sheberhrbbr2388 3 місяці тому +1

      I have 3 cryo dps (wriothesley/ayaka/ganyu) and I don’t even have shenhe I really need her idk why she never got a banner yet 😭

  • @hynex1886
    @hynex1886 2 місяці тому +7

    For anyone wondering why furina gives very little dmg increase compared to mona even tho she buff 75% dmg bonus and mona only buff 50%, its because mona is on supportive build. Ttds gives 48% atk at r5 and noblesse buff 20% atk. Mona simply gives more value to ayaka because she buffs both atk and dmg bonus

    • @dmitri970
      @dmitri970 Місяць тому

      Ayaka, Mona(ttds),Charlotte (fav codex) and Kazuha or Ayaka, Furina, Charlotte (ttds or fav codex) and Kazuha.

    • @hynex1886
      @hynex1886 Місяць тому

      @@dmitri970 personally i like furnina charlotte team more than mona. charlotte can use ttds for more dmg and favonius for more energy and better rotation, dmg may be fall off a bit but furina can cover it with her summons dmg. and if kazuha in the the team maybe you can try using atk goblet on ayaka, because she already got so much dmg% from furina and kazuha (and mistsplitter if you have one)

    • @BloodReaper95
      @BloodReaper95 Місяць тому

      Monas damage bonus scales with her talent level. At talent level 8 like in this video, it's a damage bonus of 56%, not 50%. At talent lvl 10, it's 60%.
      There's no "only buff 50%". Fun fact, the damage bonus starts at 42% for talent level 1.

    • @BloodReaper95
      @BloodReaper95 Місяць тому

      Monas damage bonus scales with her talent level. At talent level 8 like in this video, it's a damage bonus of 56%, not 50%. At talent lvl 10, it's 60%.
      There's no "only buff 50%". Fun fact, the damage bonus starts at 42% for talent level 1.

    • @hynex1886
      @hynex1886 Місяць тому

      @@BloodReaper95 i know it still 50 ish %, not that big of difference.

  • @Takatou__Yogiri
    @Takatou__Yogiri 10 місяців тому +90

    benny is 6 star. you shoundn't compare him with weakling 5 star characters.

    • @_grainos
      @_grainos  10 місяців тому +15

      Hahaha.. can't deny that...😂😂

  • @ayeintro
    @ayeintro 9 місяців тому +97

    furina's simps are dying in comments😂

    • @_grainos
      @_grainos  9 місяців тому +5

      😅

    • @Pepepepmls
      @Pepepepmls 9 місяців тому +7

      So Toxic 😂😂😂

    • @ammarnk9260
      @ammarnk9260 9 місяців тому +2

      Where?

    • @sheberhrbbr2388
      @sheberhrbbr2388 9 місяців тому +9

      @@ammarnk9260in the comments, I scrolled for 2s and found 3 comments whining

    • @_grainos
      @_grainos  9 місяців тому +1

      😅

  • @arvinder4you452
    @arvinder4you452 4 місяці тому +10

    The problem with shenhe is only 5/7 hits are buff,

  • @basedalex
    @basedalex 9 місяців тому +32

    Biggest ayaka buff = mistsplitter

    • @_grainos
      @_grainos  9 місяців тому +3

      Can't deny that...
      However "the finale of the deep R5" deals almost similar DMG as R1 mistsplitter .. it's just that the Play Style of that sword can be annoying to some..😅

    • @_datsu
      @_datsu 3 місяці тому

      It’s better than the anemona kageuchi?

    • @basedalex
      @basedalex 3 місяці тому

      @@_datsu Yes, but I don't want anyone feel like they have to get it

    • @_datsu
      @_datsu 3 місяці тому

      @@basedalex
      Oops, i replied to the wrong comment. I was going to ask if the finale of the deep was better than kageuchi

    • @basedalex
      @basedalex 3 місяці тому

      @@_datsu With enough ER and a Healer like Diona/Kokomi yeah its better

  • @eva_mv
    @eva_mv 9 місяців тому +14

    im sure u only got like 11%/75% elemental dmg bonus from furinaa

    • @_grainos
      @_grainos  9 місяців тому +5

      Check the video in pinned comment, you will see that even with max fanfare the damage reaches around 18k... It's just how furina's buff work...

    • @Dilschod88
      @Dilschod88 9 місяців тому +4

      ​@@_grainos длительность ульты Фурины 18 секунд это время компенсирует не достающий урон, в общем с Фуриной общий ДПС повышается на много чем с Моной

    • @_grainos
      @_grainos  9 місяців тому

      ​@@Dilschod88that is a very good point.. I never thought of it like this..👌👌

    • @Arcomuss
      @Arcomuss 9 місяців тому +7

      ​@@_grainosбафф Моны 4 сек, бафф Фурины 18 сек. Мона из кармана не наносит урон, петы Фурины при правильной раскачке по урону могут обгонять основного ДД по урону. Для примера, крабаллета моей Фурины под фанфарами наносит 79к урона без вейпа, а при реакции пар около 159к. Без фанфар 33к.
      Ну и если у основного ДД полностью убрать любые аффиксы, то да, ульта Фурины будет увеличивать урон на 75-124%

    • @_grainos
      @_grainos  9 місяців тому +1

      @@Arcomuss That damage is insane... My Furina's Skill level is 6 only, still she deals decent damage... For abyss Furina will definitely be the go-to option...

  • @humzahussain8596
    @humzahussain8596 9 місяців тому +8

    Whats the name of the background music here

    • @_grainos
      @_grainos  9 місяців тому +2

      It's called "Rex Incognito" , Zhongli's theme music..
      I have put the link in the description..👌👌

  • @He_yzekb67
    @He_yzekb67 9 місяців тому +14

    Furina simps r furious😭

    • @_grainos
      @_grainos  9 місяців тому

      Yes they are..😅😅

  • @RayeedTua-vj8cp
    @RayeedTua-vj8cp 9 місяців тому +4

    You didn't use mona elemental skill for tenacity

    • @_grainos
      @_grainos  9 місяців тому +5

      I used Noblesse Oblige on Mona.. so elemental skill was not needed... And the buff provided by it, is the same as tenacity...

  • @remnakano4984
    @remnakano4984 10 місяців тому +8

    I am new and I don't understand anything if we use cryo character and use again Ayaka we can get more damage,?

    • @_grainos
      @_grainos  10 місяців тому +8

      I didn't fully understand what you said there.. but if by "cryo character" you meant "Shenhe" then : YES.. Shenhe's skill and ultimate helps increase your cryo damage.. so use Shenhe first.. then swap to Ayaka and use everything..
      And if not then :
      It's not always about which element we are using to buff Ayaka.. some characters have unique skills that increase the damage of your main dps.. like :
      Shenhe makes enemies weaker to cryo.. and increase your cryo DMG..
      Bennet increases your attack
      Mona, furina & kazuha increases your elemental DMG..
      That way you need specific characters and teams to maximize your DMG..
      Since you are new.. you might not fully understand the value of rotation in a team yet.. but it's fine as long as you have either one of the characters shown in the video that buffs Ayaka's (or any other dps's) dmg...

    • @MK-qf3ve
      @MK-qf3ve 9 місяців тому +3

      no it's shenhe skill that buffs cryo damage

    • @_grainos
      @_grainos  9 місяців тому +3

      Yeah.. but giving cryo DMG bonus and shredding enemy cryo resistance ultimately lead to increasing your cryo DMG... That's why I said that to make it easier to understand..

  • @iamreyo5131
    @iamreyo5131 9 місяців тому +7

    What if my party ayaka,shenhe,bennet and kazuha? Would be triple buff?

    • @_grainos
      @_grainos  9 місяців тому +3

      Yeah... That team actually deals the most damage... I have shown it in this video..
      ua-cam.com/video/73TXtf9krz8/v-deo.htmlsi=n9NkLTzK19mdte50
      Check it out if you want... The damage numbers are insane... 🔥🔥

    • @aceofpurity
      @aceofpurity 9 місяців тому +1

      If you have good crit rate it is, but if you rely on 4pc blizzard strayer then Bennett will ruin freeze

    • @iamreyo5131
      @iamreyo5131 9 місяців тому

      @@aceofpurity what other artifact is good if using bennet?

  • @cehin5916
    @cehin5916 9 місяців тому +8

    I think if you use Furina's buff, you should be using an atk percent goblet

    • @_grainos
      @_grainos  9 місяців тому +5

      Yeah I actually tried that... But Atk percent was performing better only when I was using Kazuha and Furina in the same team.. with just Furina Cryo Goblet was dealing more DMG...

    • @Msaber2012
      @Msaber2012 9 місяців тому +3

      I think the atk goblet is good in a fully buffed team. I'm assuming furina by her self doesn't give diminishing returns on the elemental dmg buff area@@_grainos

    • @_grainos
      @_grainos  9 місяців тому +5

      Exactly... In a fully buffed team, ATK % goblet performs better... Since you won't generally have Bennet with furina and mostly all other supports will give cryo DMG buff... So it's effectiveness falls off..

  • @AscenderGrey66
    @AscenderGrey66 10 місяців тому +8

    Why did furina give so little dmg buff
    She has the chance for a 75% atk bonus at full stacks

    • @_grainos
      @_grainos  10 місяців тому +27

      Almost every stat and effect that uses the term "DMG" is additive with each other except for CRIT DMG.. so furina's 75% buff is added on top of her base damage.. that is without the buff from her goblet, passive and Blizzard Strayer set effect..
      So Ayaka's solo damage was = 13063
      Goblet gives : 46.6% bonus, passive : 18%, artifact : 15%
      So total DMG bonus in the solo run = 79.6% ( 80% )
      That means 180% of her base damage adds up to 13063 when it crits..
      Thus base damage is : 13063 / 1.8 = 7257
      In this case the regisvine died too quick and her talent level was 8.. so she could barely buff for about 50%..
      So DMG bonus after furina buff is : 180 + 50 = 230%
      So burst damage should be : 7257 x 2.3 = 16691
      It's not exact.. but that's how furina buff is calculated...

    • @_grainos
      @_grainos  9 місяців тому +1

      Yep.. couldn't explain in a simpler way..👌👌

    • @allhaillelouchvibritannia7494
      @allhaillelouchvibritannia7494 9 місяців тому

      if you really are curious look for genshin optimizer its a bit close from what my damage is from my ayakas cutting damage not including my furinas buff but basically its like this 202.1% * Total ATK 2194.5 * ( 100% + Total DMG Bonus 79.6% ) * ( 100% + Total Crit DMG 217.4% ) * Enemy DEF Multiplier 50% * ( 100% - Total Enemy Cryo DMG RES 10% ) note that its raw damage and I do the sprint thats why I get 79.6 cryo dmg bonus and my overall damage is around 11k its a raw damage with amenoma

    • @_grainos
      @_grainos  9 місяців тому +1

      @@allhaillelouchvibritannia7494 damm.. that's pretty good... Getting raw damage above 10k with 4 star weapon is awesome👌👌

    • @drekhunter
      @drekhunter 9 місяців тому +3

      Didn't fully stack, she is using Golden troupe while the others are using support sets and weapons and the talents are low, overall this one is poorly done, he should give her Noblesse or ToTM for the test or just test everyone buffs in a vacuum or count the damage she deals with the summons since she was build for that.
      Furina is an amazing character but judging her by regular supports standars isn't gonna work.

  • @Elit35nip3r
    @Elit35nip3r 9 місяців тому +5

    The Kazuha test was a bit unfair. You normal attacked the regisvine with an elemental infusion. For mistsplitter you need to normal attack, and use your burst to get all 3 stacks. You get one for normal attacking with an elemental infusion, and you get 2 for using your burst. One for casting, and one for not being at 100% energy. It wouldn't have changed the results much, but it still invalidates the rest, seeing as you only got all 3 stacks of mistsplitter with one test. You only got a 28% elemental damage increase with every character besides Kazuha, when you should have been getting the full 40%. 12% for just having it, and 28% for doing all three actions to get the 3 stacks = 40%.

    • @_grainos
      @_grainos  9 місяців тому +1

      Yeah I thought I paused for 5 second before pressing ult... But just noticed that it was around 4.5 sec.. my bad... Thanks for pointing it out... Will keep these details in mind while doing next comparisons.. 😅

    • @Elit35nip3r
      @Elit35nip3r 9 місяців тому

      No problem ! :D @@_grainos

    • @tuxidokamen
      @tuxidokamen 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@Elit35nip3r so IS shenhe or Kazuha better? And since Cryo is the last Swirl and Infusion priority how to navigate against inate auras?

    • @_grainos
      @_grainos  9 місяців тому

      Shenhe is the best support for any cryo character....
      As for the infusion, it can be a bit tricky but since Kazuha can swirl two elements at the same time.. so suppose you are standing at bennett's ult and the enemy is inflicted with cryo... Then if you Hold E skill for Kazuha.. then he will swirl cryo when jumping and swirl pyro after the plunge... Or if you use burst.. then the first slash of the burst will swirl cryo after that it will swirl pyro...( In this case the cryo DMG bonus will be available only for 6 sec but the pyro one will be available for as long as Kazuha burst is active)
      As I said, it can be tricky if you are not proficient with the rotations ( like me 😖 ) then first apply some strong cryo then use Kazuha skill or burst... This is the reason I had to do basic atk in the Kazuha buff in this video... Since just by dashing in the enemy with Ayaka applies weak cryo so Kazuha was always swirling pyro somehow..🥲

  • @Arjun_Vasudevan
    @Arjun_Vasudevan 8 місяців тому +2

    Does Shenhe's buff have a limit, it only buffs burst for 4 tics

    • @_grainos
      @_grainos  8 місяців тому +1

      Yes Shenhe's skill grants Ice Quills to the Active Cryo Character... 5 for tapping the skill and 7 for holding...
      You consume 1 quill for each instance of cryo DMG dealt to the enemy...
      But aside from that she also shreds enemy cryo resistance...

    • @ALEXANDER6888
      @ALEXANDER6888 5 місяців тому

      Yes, but usually you have a rotation with her to use her E twice. And if you have C1, you can use it three times, making Ayaka a beast!

  • @d-godfather
    @d-godfather 9 місяців тому +5

    For nuke Shenhe Benett Mona on TTDS for Single target

    • @_grainos
      @_grainos  9 місяців тому +2

      Yeah.. that's the best team for nuke..👌👌

  • @marupurusaivamsi4802
    @marupurusaivamsi4802 9 місяців тому +1

    Bro that jean didn't seirl cryo . So maybe thats why dmg loss?

    • @_grainos
      @_grainos  9 місяців тому

      Yes I didn't do that Intentionally since this was calculating only furina's buff... Jean was there just as a healer..
      The DMG is low since Furina's talent level was 8.. I crowned her and then compared the DMG in another video.. now Ayaka is dealing around 19k DMG with only furina buff..

    • @marupurusaivamsi4802
      @marupurusaivamsi4802 9 місяців тому +1

      @@_grainos and with vv shred she surpasses kazuha and atk gob.

    • @_grainos
      @_grainos  9 місяців тому +1

      That's true.. but it feels like Furina and Jean ganging up on poor Kazuha... 😄😄

  • @killab1511
    @killab1511 9 місяців тому +4

    I dont think furina burst was full stack

    • @_grainos
      @_grainos  9 місяців тому +3

      it was close actually... But Talent level was 8.. watch this one.. here the burst level is 10 and she has max fanfare..
      ua-cam.com/video/AzQpnkhAgis/v-deo.html

  • @sggamerx8616
    @sggamerx8616 3 місяці тому

    C0 furina is not that good while comparing with raiden , nahida , zhongli her buff is very less

  • @0ganay02
    @0ganay02 9 місяців тому +2

    Wich one better?
    Ayaka with shenhe kazuha kokomi
    Or
    Ayaka with furina kazuha and Charlotte

    • @_grainos
      @_grainos  9 місяців тому

      The first team is mostly for speed runs... However now in spiral abyss enemies often come in waves.. so just doing 1 ult with full setup is not good enough.. that's why the 2nd team's performance will be better overall... Since furina is an amazing damage dealer as well..

    • @0ganay02
      @0ganay02 9 місяців тому +1

      @@_grainos im building ayaka premium with shenhe and kokomi with all sign for 2 years and now she got power creep
      "Wa da hell"🗿👍

    • @_grainos
      @_grainos  9 місяців тому

      😂😂 that's sad.. though if your Ayaka is dealing enough DMG then who cares about meta... Just use her however u like..👌❤️

    • @soujiokita6062
      @soujiokita6062 9 місяців тому +3

      ​@@0ganay02that will also happen to newer character in the future..what's important that ur having fun playing the game and the characters you're building...it's a game..games are meant to be for fun..not a chore... I too have premium ayaka freeze team...and i don't regret it..despite only ever using newer characters (currently Navia )until their friendship is maxed (only take the dusty characters out for abyss runs)

    • @_grainos
      @_grainos  9 місяців тому

      Agreed..💯💯

  • @sergeantneko
    @sergeantneko 8 місяців тому +1

    But do they stack

    • @_grainos
      @_grainos  8 місяців тому +1

      Yes they do, but too many of same type of buff will give diminishing return to some stats... For example if you use Kazuha + Mona + furina to buff and Ayaka with Mistsplitter.. then she will get too much elemental DMG bonus... So in that case she should use Atk goblet to get more DMG...
      Similarly if you use ( hypothetically ) Bennett with Noblesse + Sara + Yanfei with TTDS ( pyro resonance) to buff and Ayaka with Finale of the Deep... she will get too much Atk and less cryo DMG...
      That's why if you want maximum return from the buffers then you should keep a balance between their buffs..

    • @sergeantneko
      @sergeantneko 8 місяців тому

      @@_grainos so if I pair Mona, Bennett, and Shenhe, would that work okay?

  • @Averagef2pgamer
    @Averagef2pgamer 9 місяців тому +1

    Why didn't you use use kazuha burat?

    • @_grainos
      @_grainos  9 місяців тому +2

      My Kazuha is C0, so he won't give any extra buff with his burst.. as for his passive DMG buff... That comes from his swirl reaction... So skill or burst doesn't matter..

    • @Averagef2pgamer
      @Averagef2pgamer 9 місяців тому +1

      @@_grainos bruh burst gives extra elemental damage you can check in burst scaling

    • @_grainos
      @_grainos  9 місяців тому +2

      Yeah but that's kazuha's personal DMG... If you are talking abou the maximum of 40% elemental DMG bonus based on the element he swirls ( aside from VV shred ) then it can be done with any form of swirl.. not necessarily his burst...

  • @hikengaming7315
    @hikengaming7315 7 місяців тому

    senhe just buff 5 slash?

    • @_grainos
      @_grainos  7 місяців тому

      Yes.. her skill grants the active cryo character 5 or 7 icy quills for tap and hold version of the skill respectively... 1 icy quill is consumed for each instance of cryo damage and helps dealing more DMG...
      But even without that her burst shreds enemy cryo resistance... So she still buffs cryo characters significantly...

  • @Weba_second
    @Weba_second 9 місяців тому +3

    Furina buff didn't stack😑

    • @_grainos
      @_grainos  9 місяців тому +3

      Yeah she had around 240 fanfare..
      when I made the video I thought that most of the time a C0 furina doesn't let you get max fanfare that fast... So did it like I originally do in abyss...
      THAT WAS A MISTAKE.. sorry for it 🙏..
      ** Check the pinned comment for a max talent level max fanfare buff showcase...

  • @spiderman20874
    @spiderman20874 3 місяці тому +1

    I regret getting furina now😂 i came back from genshin after months and got furina cus everyone told me she was OP but she is good at best😢

    • @Shriya-o5e
      @Shriya-o5e 3 місяці тому +1

      She is also a sub dps, a very flexible character and great in neuvilette teams. they didn't stack her

    • @Genshin_Addict69
      @Genshin_Addict69 3 місяці тому +1

      Furina is really good but mainly for buff, not big big damage like neuvi or smth like that but she is really op if u build her right

    • @Mc_DeusAuri
      @Mc_DeusAuri 2 місяці тому +2

      shes also an excellent healer and sub dps

    • @spiderman20874
      @spiderman20874 6 днів тому +1

      on second thought her after having her for a month, her sub dps dmg is crazy, guess its kinda my fault for jumping to conclusions

  • @JustCoeg696
    @JustCoeg696 2 місяці тому +1

    Ppl complaining abt how Furina is restricted to bring healer or abt how her buff isn't exeeding mona .
    So you mean you want a character that :
    Has more off field dmg than your dps and 100% uptime cooldown
    Able to heal in exploration or coop scenario ( bsz who use Furina's heal in abyss)
    Able to walk on water infinitely
    Just need 180-200% er to spam burst
    Has many f2p weapons option
    Has A FVKIBG 18 SECONDS BUFF DURATION
    able to increase any dmg except transformative
    HP scaling so you are not complaining abt your shyt@ss artifacts luck
    And lastly you want her buff exceeding mona's without any down side?
    Sounds like Furina less behavior

  • @goatedondemstiks4305
    @goatedondemstiks4305 9 місяців тому +2

    U could have got more damage for kazuha by using burst for cryo Damage bonus u used only e to get vv shred

    • @_grainos
      @_grainos  9 місяців тому +3

      You don't need his burst for that DMG bonus.. he just needs to swirl that element (by either skill or burst)...
      If this was a team showcase where you need to swirl multiple elements then I would have used burst... But since this a solo buff test... His Elemental skill was enough to proc both VV set effect and his passive 40% elemental DMG bonus...

    • @goatedondemstiks4305
      @goatedondemstiks4305 9 місяців тому +3

      @@_grainos his burst grants additional damage bonus depending on the element it’s swirls

    • @_grainos
      @_grainos  9 місяців тому +3

      His burst "deals additional elemental DMG" depending on the element it swirls... The damage bonus come from his swirl reaction... Not specifically from his burst..

    • @lcruz4452
      @lcruz4452 9 місяців тому +3

      You got it wrong. You just need to swirl the element to provide the damage bonus. C2 only provide 200 more EM if he burst. Other than that, any form of swirl (elemental or burst) activates his 2nd passive talent.

    • @_grainos
      @_grainos  9 місяців тому +2

      Yep.. for C0 Kazuha just doing swirl is enough..

  • @tasha2749
    @tasha2749 3 місяці тому

    20 hit q 10 quil stack or 5 if you dont do tap e mid ayaka q rotation and you cann it 100%+ dmg buff, what is this shitty shenhe propaganda, shenhe never be the core upgrade for ayaka team, her best upgrade is always be kazuha follow up by miss and then we can talk about shenhe