I just watched you 130P challenge and look forward to this one! Killdeer seems to be one of your favourites. ;) My high score in the tabletop is 128 with 34 points from bonus cards (with Oceania expansion). Because of your videos I really want to buy the digital version soon.
Thanks for checking it out. We skipped over the 110 challenge because we hit 130 and 140, but I think it would be worth going back and getting 110 without using the Ravens or Killdeer. Those cards really are a little OP. We're loving the digital app. It's a convenient way to sneak a few games in when you're too lazy to do the live setup. Hopefully you enjoy the 140.
@@LegendaryTactics I just bought the digital edition on sale :). Can´t wait to try it. I like using different stategies in Wingspan not only egg-laying. I suggest you try reaching those 140P with a wetland card-tucking engine. ;)
Hey just watched the 140 challenge. I've been playing for just under a month. Have to say, its much easier to win against the computer/auto than to win against other ruthless humans. :) Having said that, after applying the strategies in this video, I just scored 141!!! Against hard/normal AI. Nevertheless, its a real high for me! Thank you!
I always look at the AI as a trainer. If you do well against the AI, you will likely do very well against humans as well. Congratulations on your score! Check out our video where a friend of ours got 186!
That's incredible! How did you pull that off? What other engine building games do you play that prepared you with some transferable skills? This blows my mind that you did so well, so fast.
@@LegendaryTactics within the first round I had the killdeer, common raven, two tuck a card draw a card and the canada goose down in the grassland. From there I just milled that habitat and got two pink egg layers and a bunch of high point cards. The closest to wingspan that I have played before is probably terraforming mars, but I have played a lot of that.
you should've played the Barn Swallow - missed out on 6-7 tucks! oh no you also missed out on Passerine Specialist on the second to last turn! You were 2 birds less than 30cm away from the top tier, and you could have grabbed the Tufted Titmouse instead of the Downy Woodpecker, sacrificing 1 feather to get 4 extra from the bonus card.
Was California Condor Good? It's hard to value the bonus card due to the random nature but in this case you got 39 points from 8 bonus cards so let's say it worth 5 points. So it's 6 points for no food cost but it costs a turn. Maybe one could argue it costs 2 eggs too since you ended up filling 5th slot in forest. Then it's 4 points. Also, it only has 1 egg slot when your main engine is grassland.
The Condor is just a cheap early bird to get down to help with some of the end of round bonus conditions. It helps get your board of the ground early. So, at the right time, it's solid. It pushes that food production higher. But, you make an interesting argument though, that it may appear to be really strong at the start, but in the end, that may just burn up a turn. After all, we didn't really need food production higher. Food for thought. Thanks for forcing me to reflect on whether that's the best choice in this tableau. It was already apparent at that point that I wouldn't need the forest row.
Bird in the intro looks like a common Firecrest, a european bird that is very similar to the golden-crowned kinglet that is commonly seen in North America
@@LegendaryTactics I actually am a professionnal ornithologist! Definitly not a titmouse or nuthatch. it's without a doubt a member of the Regulidae family, and mostly one of the european species (like the common firecrest) since it doesn't look like any of the north american species that I know.
@@sprid2808 Awesome. I certainly am not. I can't even say I'm a professional gamer! Don't the firecrests have a distinctive red patch on the top of their head or are there different varieties that don't have that? Forgive my ignorance on this topic.
@@LegendaryTactics Most pictures online will show male individuals with full blown out crests, but it's actually rarely the case in the field. Most times, their crests will be at rest, leaving only a small yellow or orange line on the center of the top of the head, as it is shown in this footage of a female bird feeding her youngs. The amount of yellow on the upper back of the bird suggests a firecrest rather than the american counterpart, the golden-crowned kinglet.
how to get 140+ point game... start the game by having two of the most broken cards in the game played by turn 2.. at that point its basically a given just got to play your birds to optimize your point values and to have the best possible prairie engine while having bonus card birds and Passive birds everywhere else.
@@LegendaryTactics looking forward to cracking 150, too! I'm thinking some combination of discard a resource and tuck two cards... such as the Canada Goose + Dark Eyed Junco + Gull combo.
Man, that's actually it! I just watched the video and was lucky to get gull and raven withing the first 6 moves. I paired it with tucking and high bird cards just got 154 points.
We are going to go back and do the 110 challenge that we skipped over and we'll ban all the top cards like the Raven and the Killdeer from our hand. That way it will force another creative solution.
EOR scoring is NOT always correct. plenty of screen shots show EOR does not match final scoring which throws into question the whole game. Appears to be effected during ties. You should be calling out the BUGS
If you click the playlist at the end of the video, we've assembled games that take you from breaking 100 all the way up to 148. There is a beginner strategy guide and a "nest" level one as well. We did the play by play analysis to help with this very question of how to push yourself to the next plateau. Hopefully this series is helpful. Let us know if any of these strategies is useful to you.
I have been playing for a while and with my famliy we played 100 games and my highest game is 132 with the Euopean exspansion pack i goth the Killdeer and 5 bouns cards
They are berries ! Not cherries...just my personal crusade . Everybody in my game group calls them cherries. Clearly the designer intended that icon to be interpreted as berries! 😂
I'm sure they are berries, but it's easy to see why they get confused. Maybe everyone in your game group is calling them that because they are trying to throw you off your game?
I just watched you 130P challenge and look forward to this one! Killdeer seems to be one of your favourites. ;)
My high score in the tabletop is 128 with 34 points from bonus cards (with Oceania expansion). Because of your videos I really want to buy the digital version soon.
Thanks for checking it out. We skipped over the 110 challenge because we hit 130 and 140, but I think it would be worth going back and getting 110 without using the Ravens or Killdeer. Those cards really are a little OP. We're loving the digital app. It's a convenient way to sneak a few games in when you're too lazy to do the live setup. Hopefully you enjoy the 140.
@@LegendaryTactics
I just bought the digital edition on sale :). Can´t wait to try it. I like using different stategies in Wingspan not only egg-laying. I suggest you try reaching those 140P with a wetland card-tucking engine. ;)
@@bvc6940 Challenge accepted!
@@LegendaryTactics
Nice :D
Hey just watched the 140 challenge. I've been playing for just under a month. Have to say, its much easier to win against the computer/auto than to win against other ruthless humans. :) Having said that, after applying the strategies in this video, I just scored 141!!! Against hard/normal AI. Nevertheless, its a real high for me! Thank you!
I always look at the AI as a trainer. If you do well against the AI, you will likely do very well against humans as well. Congratulations on your score! Check out our video where a friend of ours got 186!
I bought the game two days ago and managed to score 164 today. Thanks for all the great tips and guides. Keep it up!
That's incredible! How did you pull that off? What other engine building games do you play that prepared you with some transferable skills? This blows my mind that you did so well, so fast.
@@LegendaryTactics within the first round I had the killdeer, common raven, two tuck a card draw a card and the canada goose down in the grassland. From there I just milled that habitat and got two pink egg layers and a bunch of high point cards. The closest to wingspan that I have played before is probably terraforming mars, but I have played a lot of that.
I'm lucky if I break 80-90 points. I've got a lot to learn. lol
Amazing score, nice one!
Thanks for the visit
you should've played the Barn Swallow - missed out on 6-7 tucks!
oh no you also missed out on Passerine Specialist on the second to last turn! You were 2 birds less than 30cm away from the top tier, and you could have grabbed the Tufted Titmouse instead of the Downy Woodpecker, sacrificing 1 feather to get 4 extra from the bonus card.
Was California Condor Good? It's hard to value the bonus card due to the random nature but in this case you got 39 points from 8 bonus cards so let's say it worth 5 points. So it's 6 points for no food cost but it costs a turn. Maybe one could argue it costs 2 eggs too since you ended up filling 5th slot in forest. Then it's 4 points. Also, it only has 1 egg slot when your main engine is grassland.
The Condor is just a cheap early bird to get down to help with some of the end of round bonus conditions. It helps get your board of the ground early. So, at the right time, it's solid. It pushes that food production higher. But, you make an interesting argument though, that it may appear to be really strong at the start, but in the end, that may just burn up a turn. After all, we didn't really need food production higher. Food for thought. Thanks for forcing me to reflect on whether that's the best choice in this tableau. It was already apparent at that point that I wouldn't need the forest row.
Bird in the intro looks like a common Firecrest, a european bird that is very similar to the golden-crowned kinglet that is commonly seen in North America
Interesting. The footage I got that from says is a titmouse, but it really dusky look like one to me. We need an ornithologist!
Looks more like a red breasted nut hatch to me
@@LegendaryTactics I actually am a professionnal ornithologist! Definitly not a titmouse or nuthatch. it's without a doubt a member of the Regulidae family, and mostly one of the european species (like the common firecrest) since it doesn't look like any of the north american species that I know.
@@sprid2808 Awesome. I certainly am not. I can't even say I'm a professional gamer! Don't the firecrests have a distinctive red patch on the top of their head or are there different varieties that don't have that? Forgive my ignorance on this topic.
@@LegendaryTactics Most pictures online will show male individuals with full blown out crests, but it's actually rarely the case in the field. Most times, their crests will be at rest, leaving only a small yellow or orange line on the center of the top of the head, as it is shown in this footage of a female bird feeding her youngs. The amount of yellow on the upper back of the bird suggests a firecrest rather than the american counterpart, the golden-crowned kinglet.
My high score is 141. I didn't think it was possible without a killdeer or Franklin's gull but apparently it is.
Congrats! Did you go with a card tucking strategy?
it mostly depends on how many players there are AND what bad cards they throw...ie everyone gets free food or cards
134 points in a 5 person game. Multiple pink cards, lots of freebies from other players. I basically never had to roll for food.
Well done. A laudable achievement!
how to get 140+ point game... start the game by having two of the most broken cards in the game played by turn 2.. at that point its basically a given just got to play your birds to optimize your point values and to have the best possible prairie engine while having bonus card birds and Passive birds everywhere else.
Very true. The question is, how long does it take someone to get to the point they can do that?
You seem to discount the tuck cards - those are critical!
Absolutely. You caught me. I think tucked cards will be the secret to cracking 150. Good catch.
@@LegendaryTactics looking forward to cracking 150, too! I'm thinking some combination of discard a resource and tuck two cards... such as the Canada Goose + Dark Eyed Junco + Gull combo.
Man, that's actually it! I just watched the video and was lucky to get gull and raven withing the first 6 moves. I paired it with tucking and high bird cards just got 154 points.
@@TheMisterblubb Brilliant! Congrats. That's a tough score to reach.
what an amazing game..
Indeed it is. Thanks for watching.
How many times did you have to restart to get a Killdeer with a Raven in the draw pile.
When I was at the height of playing this game, I was logging an embarrassing amount of playtime, but you don't see a golden draw like that too often.
Where or how can I play this game digitally?
The best option is to pick it up on Steam if you have a PC.
@@LegendaryTactics Thank you!
Is @Legendary Tactics the same person as AoE @Spirit of the Law?
We are not connected to him. But wow, he's got a huge UA-cam channel. Was it our voices or video style that made you think we the same person?
So you need five AI to get more combo as much as possible instead of one by one to get more than 100 point easier ?
I think it would be far more interesting to see automata beating games that drew poor cards.
We are going to go back and do the 110 challenge that we skipped over and we'll ban all the top cards like the Raven and the Killdeer from our hand. That way it will force another creative solution.
the one bad thing about the UI is mousing over the cards......wayyyyyyyy to touchy
Yes, it can be. Have you tried playing on the 'leather map board' option?
129 agaisnt my wife the other night she was shook
Beauty. Not bad for heads' up play.
EOR scoring is NOT always correct. plenty of screen shots show EOR does not match final scoring which throws into question the whole game.
Appears to be effected during ties.
You should be calling out the BUGS
My highest score is 149
Impressive!
my highst is 104 how do you get to like 120
If you click the playlist at the end of the video, we've assembled games that take you from breaking 100 all the way up to 148. There is a beginner strategy guide and a "nest" level one as well. We did the play by play analysis to help with this very question of how to push yourself to the next plateau. Hopefully this series is helpful. Let us know if any of these strategies is useful to you.
I have been playing for a while and with my famliy we played 100 games and my highest game is 132 with the Euopean exspansion pack i goth the Killdeer and 5 bouns cards
They are berries ! Not cherries...just my personal crusade . Everybody in my game group calls them cherries. Clearly the designer intended that icon to be interpreted as berries! 😂
I'm sure they are berries, but it's easy to see why they get confused. Maybe everyone in your game group is calling them that because they are trying to throw you off your game?
I definitely catch myself calling the berries cherries (official name fruit) the seed "wheat" and the invertebrates grub or bug
Apparently my uncle was able to get a 194
The man is a machine!!! I'd love to watch that one.
No.
@@DarthMagician. I don’t know
It bugs me that you keep calling all the food types: cherries, wheat, mice and worms, when they are: fruit, seeds, rodents and invertebrates
You should hear what we call the resources in Catan. We also struggle to remember the names of the nests.