great discussion. when i first tried getting into shmups, i was definitely out of my element by playing games on difficulties outside my experience, even when trying to credit feed, it sort of turned me off of them for a while. the beginner list has been super helpful in me getting more into shmups and also i'm having a blast playing through these games and it's really fulfilling to feel like i am starting to get a little better.
Major props for putting this together! I’m at the beginning of my shmup journey, and though I’ve found lots of great resources out there, this is the first one I’ve seen that is created by fellow beginners. Love it!
It's a big part of how we curate the list! I'm by no means a beginner any more so I myself am not allowed to add to the list or give opinions, we get actual beginners to curate the games so we can be sure there isn't something that we're missing that will trip up a beginner!
@@AKTANEARCADE Ah, yes, that makes sense. Two games I wanted to ask about, since I will own them in the near future, are Deathsmiles & Deathsmiles 2. I’ve seen at least the first game listed as a beginner-friendly shmup elsewhere. Do y’all think either of them fits anywhere on this list?
@@RobotPlaysGames I think they're right on the edge, Deathsmiles 2x with Rosa was very chill for me, Deathsmiles 1 was a bit too difficult. It's a little odd with those because I'm the ports you can pick level 1 difficulty for each stage but then the castle will be super hard difficulty spike, for example in the first one. The second one has a more level playing field. I think you can work on them and clear them but they are pretty difficult at first for a beginner for 1CC. They're not unobtainable though, and on the easier side. The mechanics in the games can be a bit complicated too, so it's maybe a lot to take in for a beginner.
Amazing concept. A thoughtful list (thanks! I'll be using it). 2 games that I'm surprised are not on the list are Barrage Fantasia (the UA-cam Shmupers around you have posted several great UA-cam vidoes that got me back into it) and Neko Navy by DeathMofuMofu. Neko Navy is initially pretty easy and has an award structure that directs the player towards an increasing challenge. It is also widely available and has a relatively simple scoring system for an STG/Shmup.
Barrage Fantasia is on the list under Spicy! It's a great game! Neko Navy we should definitely consider.. though the game is a little odd and has some weird spikes, it does teach resource management and abundant bomb use ...We'll need a beginner to curate that one and then it'll go on 👍🏾
I absolutely love this list, seeing the orange change to green when I get that clear is a super great feeling! I did have two suggestions to make: the Touhou spreadsheet is kind of hard to just read right off since the titles only have the number of what it is in the series, and I had to keep going back and forth trying to figure out which game is which. For instance on Steam, they don't usually give you what number it is in the series, just the name. I eventually just changed all the cells to have the names after, like "Touhou 7: Perfect Cherry Blossom" which has helped a lot. I wasn't even brand new to Touhou, but had a lot of trouble with the readability of the list. The other suggestion was 2 games that are super beginner friendly and I don't see brought up nearly at all on the shmup side of youtube: Cosmo Dreamer and Like Dreamer, both made by the same dev. They are both super solid games that I honestly feel like should be brought up more often as a recommendation to those who are just starting their shmup journey Thanks for yall's work! And Aktane, when I heard you talking about Crimson Clover's Novice mode on Mark's podcast, and how you got the 1cc after realizing bombs are tied to a meter, I revisited that game and after a couple of days of grinding some runs and training against the stage 5 boss and TLB, I was able to squeeze out the 1cc! So thanks for helping me realize to actually take advantage of the resources the game gives you lol
Great suggestions! I love cosmodreamer 😬 haven't played like dreamer yet but that dev absolutely NAILS game flow, the stage flow and rhythms Is mind blowing. I'll have some folks curate those games ASAP! On the Touhou list, we can add the names! Thank you!
Okay we've added the names, RE: Cosmodreamer easy we need to figure out if we can add with a caveat. Here's what happened with your beginner player, they played well, no missed the game and then got the TLB stage at the end and got crushed by the massive difficulty spike. And that really deflated them... I don't know if that's the right beginner experience
@@AKTANEARCADE I wish that YT would actually notify me when there's a reply lmao. I literally just stumbled upon this wondering if there had ever been another reply. Hmmmm, I mean everyone is going to have a different experience their first time, and that's applicable to any game on the list. I just suggested Cosmo Dreamer as a beginner friendly game as it is super forgiving, especially when choosing your loadout as you can boost the shield even further than boosting another weapon. And also the progression of the game, as you complete every stage, stage-by-stage to unlock the arcade mode (called Trials mode for whatever reason in the game). I just replayed the last stage, and I do see what you mean about it being a difficulty spike, as I cleared the stage with 2-misses just now on "Casual", and more than likely my first time through I had to restart the stage. But with everyone being different, your beginner player no-missed the whole game except for the last stage, whereas I definitely died many times the first time I played. My first 1cc was Imperishable Night, and all Touhou games get much more difficult past stage 3. I kept dying to Marisa (stage 4 boss playing as Reimu) over and over and over again until I could beat her. And Imperishable Night is listed as "Brand New to Shmups," though all Touhou games are hard, even on Easy, especially to newbies. But yeah I'm not exactly sure then. Because a 1cc of Cosmo Dreamer clearly isn't Spicy or Very Spicy, and nearly any TLB is going to be a difficulty spike. Sorry, I just thought it was an ideal candidate for the list, but I understand that not everyone will have the same experience with the game as I did, and I definitely don't want to recommend a game that will only leave somebody deflated :(
Amazing video guys! Thanks for putting this out for the new players or even the experienced players that has been reserved on trying a 1cc, this will help a lot!
Mr.Cvlt! Last I saw you were crushing it at Gordito's house 😁 thanks very much and please let me know if the Spanish speakers have comments for the list or if it can help them! It's a work in progress of course! We try to add to it constantly
Super grateful for this. I just got the Heaven 1CC in BWRP, and it was just the perfect level of enjoyable and doable. Can't wait to try some of the other recommendations.
Every day that I consider if we are doing something that is worthwhile or needed in the community, and whether it really makes a difference, is washed away by your comment and those that are enjoying their time with this curated list! Love this ! 👌🏽💯 Hope you can enjoy more games with this ramp up!
I am so glad I ran into this list. Originally I wanted to go through some classic series like R-Type and Gradius, but now I know these are a pain in the butt, while I enjoy the games from the list much more. As a note, I find the Touhou games from the Brand New section comparatively challenging. Touhou 8 required a couple of hours of practice with Reimu, Touhou 6 still is a 3cc after 3 hours of practice, while I went through Mushihimesama futari novice original/maniac with different characters and Danmaku Festival II like it was a toddler's game.
@@danny.ray101 excellent notes!!! I will pass on to Chinopolis to make any adjustments we need. We really appreciate exactly this feedback from beginners themselves so we can make sure we're not turning into the thing that we hate - experts trying to gauge difficulty...
@@AKTANEARCADE hey man, I have progressed quite a bit on this list - today finally Mushi OG novice 1cc after weeks of failure and frustration -, and so I would like to give you some more pointers. Most of the games in the brand new to shmups section I played (and liked) were a 1cc on first or second attempt. The one title you might want to reassess would be DDP DFK novice 1.5 imo. I think it's comparable to Mushihimesama Futari Novice Ultra (spicy section), but it throws even more stuff at you. In terms of difficulty I would rank this challenge between Mushi Futari Novice Ultra and Mushi OG Novice Original, so more like Spicy section. Regarding the Touhou titles the easiest and most beginner-friendly games in my opinion are Danmaku Festival 2 -> Blue Devil -> Danmaku Festival 1 -> Touhou 8 (if you use Reimu/Barrier team because it gives you a generous deathbomb window). I would put all the other Touhou titles (so far) at least into Spicy. These games are not very generous with lives and bombs and there is also no autobomb which would essentially allow you to take considerably more hits. Does the discord server still exist?
Much appreciated 👍🏾 and we are still working on this list, but certainly I'm no beginner now almost 2 years of playing so need others to vet some of these! 💘
Back when I started, I would mostly play the best ones and just immediately suck at them. Nowadays, I pick ones that interest me the most and see how I can get good at them. Definitely ones I recommend for beginners are the Aleste series and the Soldier series. (Mostly Final Soldier and Soldier Blade).
Excellent list of games. Will help folks get pointed in the right direction. Some of the best times are credit feeding shmups/beatem ups with family and friends. Thanks guys👊
Nice, thanks for this. Good choices! Crimzon Clover Novice mode is a great starting point. Thanks for motivating me to clear/re-clear some of these games!
thank you! Speaking of which... Schildmaid MX Jaeger belongs on this list and is being added ASAP! We will put it under Spicy. TF3 is a hot topic haha 😁 on one hand it is quite harsh, and on the other hand if you're trying to get into those kinds of games, it SEEMS it can even be considered gentle compared to the rest!!
@@AKTANEARCADE Thank you! Yeah, of course I'm very much biased and it's tough to gauge an overall difficulty for the average player for a game you've made yourself, but I should think a no loop skip clear of Jaeger ranks on the lower end of the difficulty scale, looking at the low intensity of the stage designs and the fact that you can shield through bullets and have constantly replenishing supers.
@@michielkroder4031 and we will allow checkpoint restarts of course! Which is what makes it so accessible. I know at least one person who entered Shmups from Schildmaid! 😎
This is a great list and a great idea. It's so easy for shmups players to lose context for what is "hard" and "easy" that's a great point. My first 1cc was Darius Gaiden but that's not a game I can recommend to a new shmups player. I think Cotton Reboot and Cotton Rock n Roll/Fantasy are good additions to consider!
Also I feel that the Murakumo I'm Darius burst AC EX+ is a fantastic beginner ship! But then again... Maybe I'm just used to shot switching? Maybe it's not great for beginners at all? Lol We need a shmup term for losing touch with difficulty
@@GojiGuy it's so hard🤣 I'm losing touch daily, that's why we still have newer players curate the games, not US any more, we make suggestions but the beginners themselves have to curate the game and that's the only way you'll be able to see it through their eyes anymore 😆
Can definitely recommend this list, I've tried most if not all of these and found some of my favorites this way. Except Coryoon.. but thankfully that isn't on the list anymore 😂
42:45 I fell asleep and didnt finish this video. To a shmup player that plays the game that I also playing, I always tend to report on my progress. I always tend to report to bug the hell out on M Knight Jul and Shmup Junkie before and now Aktane is the new person for me to report my progress. Hope you guys dont find me annoying. Edit. I am still not convinced about Touhou. Its too confusing and incomprehensible for me most of the time.
I avoid Touhou personally because i have visual issues with the games sometimes so, I'm with you on that! Have a look at something like Cosmodreamer or Danmakai which are Touhou-esque but a little different and a bit more clear... A bit...and really interesting
My first 1cc was Blue Revolver normal. Looking at this list now I feel kinda proud ngl, I'll look into the other shmups on the last category to see if it was a fluke or not :)
Really great list! I play shumps from time to time for 2-3 years now. I am now at a state where I have 1cc'd Crimzon Clover arrange, DFK (1 loop) and Batsugun special. Before that it took some time to beat Ketsui Deathtiny Mode, for example. Now this mode seems like a cakewalk to me. All the super easy modes are "too easy" now. However, at the moment I am at a point where there is a great wall. I do not see how it would be possible for me to beat Dodonpachi or Radiant silvergun.
Hmm interesting there's a lot for me to say here, for one, in the very spicy section of the list, none of those will be "super easy" levels of easy... So try some of those! They still might be too easy but won't be pushovers... 🤔 there's a lot that could be stopping you from moving forward in the games you mentioned. There are some good intermediate Shmups but it really becomes about what you enjoy and can dedicate yourself to. I find a lot of console Shmups fit this intermediate category. Me for example I (with a lot of hours) cleared DDP in my first year, and it was pretty hard, but based on your clears, it would be attainable but difficultyl stretch goal for you with some practice, I recommend C-S ship. Radiant Silvergun is a bit too confusing unless you followed a strategy because in addition to dodging there is a lot of experimentation required. I would not go for that yet. Some great intermediate games are like Eschatos Original, GG Aleste 3, Zanac Neo, Recca, Cho Ren Sha (1-all), Cotton Reboot and if you're feeling very spicy maybe Mushi Original 1.5 (M Shot) or DDP 1-all with CS. But it's really about what do YOU enjoy ... what kind of games do you like and can dedicate time to...
@@AKTANEARCADE Thanks! I really liked Cho Ren Sha when trying it. Maybe I will go for that. DDP 1all could be possible, too, I guess. Problem is most of the time I do not play with a clear plan (practicing sections, analysing playthroughs etc.). I think it would really need, let`s say a full week of time and dedication.
@@dr-gorgo it took me months to clear DDP playing on and off haha. Spent a month once and could not clear it and had to come back. A week is short! if you can clear a game in a week then I consider it inside your comfort zone! Nowadays that's the kind of games I like to play but I'm gonna go after Garegga as my stretch clear
@@AKTANEARCADE I just tried DDP and you are right. I think this is impossible for me, lol. What I meant wasn't even this game. It was the original Donpachi, lol.
I've been exposed to the world of shmup for more than a year and I only managed to 1cc 2 games so far. I still haven't properly play most shmups I own but I feel like I want to get another one despite barely having any progress on Blue Revolver. 13:44 specific manner? I sure do tend to like a game that doesnt really play like your average genre.
Yeah Akai Katana is a game where you're not dodging 99% of the time on novice especially, if you know how to recharge your invincibility, you're just sorta resource managing for the most part!
@@AKTANEARCADE Another thing I wish other shmup would implement is "conquest mode". Its something that is available in Ikaruga(I am not sure on what version) and Xmas Shooting Scramble.
@@soratheorangejuicemascot5809 conquest is available in Ikaruga GameCube but I haven't tried it yet as I don't have a GameCube and haven't gone down there emulation rabbit hole. Is it just a mission mode? You might want to have a look at Jamestown+ which has a ton of modes as well as M2 port challenge modes which break down classic arcade game levels into parts and each have medals and score
@@AKTANEARCADE Its more like an arcade mode but you can save after each stage. If you game over, you can just load the game on any of the stage. I think M Knight Jul can explain this better since my grammar sucks.... Btw, what is mission mode?
im even the intermedate player (have 1cc some of them like Touhou normal, DDP, Mushi ori, Deathsmile, Espgaluda, Crimzon Clover arrange) and i want to try easy mode 1cc and i might try to make the excel list like that. edit: i might download that excel file (probably gonna modified it for intermidate player.)
Yeah for sure! Download the list and use it as a basis! The thing about intermediate player, is it's more about preference than it is about difficulty, because skill sets differ and the games jump up in difficulty. I think if you're able to clear those cave games you can clear almost anything but you'll just have to find the right game for you! Something like GG Aleste 3, Akai Katana, Eschatos Original, maybe Recca, Crisis Force, MUSHA, Zanac Neo, but then also memo games like Gradius and Darius Gaiden... There's almost too many to list and some people that might find G-Darius Gaiden approachable, might find like Futari 1.5 OG to be difficult! I do think Crimzon Clover Arrange is a good intermediate difficulty.
@@AKTANEARCADE i play futari on Mame not sure its 1.5 or not but the original mode seems more like Maniac mode of the first Mushihimesama. and in futari original pattern isn't like Toaplan style but literally Bullet hell.
Hey Aktane I'll be checking out the video(I'm travelling) later just wanted to say try Vasara 1 and 2 you can get the collection on steam too for pretty cheap. Also there's a Shmup sale going which games you looking to pick up? I already feel bad for my wallet lmao.
I have way too many games because I keep up quite a bit! I would recommend if you buy Vasara to play on Mame and don't use the port, it's a very barebones port and doesn't run great... And do not buy Vasara for switch unless you're good with massive input lag! (I own it on switch and never play it there as it is just too sloshy) - as far as great games to pick up, I'd need to review the sales but ya can't go wrong with Crimzon Clover, Blue Revolver, the Cave games, Operation STEEL (new indie game that is awesome!), And of course the mighty Zero Ranger 😁; cosmodreamer is also an amazing game. There's too many great Shmups to list! Just off the top of my head hah
I've looked at this before, this is in junkies discord right? Nice to break this down aktane, as a beginner, the list may be intimidating or not know where to start exactly and choose one that is maybe too tough and turn them off to stg's.
@@AKTANEARCADE all right, also, can I be that guy who recommended gleylancer due to fair difficulty, availability on multiple systems, price, easy of game mechanics. There are some things here and there, but I would say that it's a good beginning shmup, because of it, I'm getting better at other shmup like darius now. skills do actually transfer which is expected, but still crazy.
@@AKTANEARCADE definitely the modes. The modern gleylancer has a modern mode which allows switching of modes and a twin stick like control scheme in which you can control you secondary weapon via right stick, which vintage aka mega-drive/genesis ver does not have. Also there are save states, and even a "cheat mode" iirc I have never used this before so I can't comment on it. Very beginner friendly imo.
I started randomly really liking shmups with the strikers/gunbird games on my smartphone, they were amazing with clean visuals, multiple aircrafts, good sprite artworks and cool bosses etc the only problem was they were REALLY hard, all I could achieve was a 2cc on the First difficulty level of gunbird 2 and strikers 3, the next difficulty (normal lol) was just crazy brutal it wasnt even fun anymore, almost insane :( such a waste of such many cool things... So i started searching for "strikers like" games on my switch but more straightforward, not too long and "Easy" (if anyone have any suggestion please suggest!), i found out Missile Dancer and i fell in love with it. I managed to 1cc multiple times and really loved everything about It and wanting to play and master the harder difficulty level. I would really suggest It to anyone who Just started with shmups given it's accessibility ^^ such a cool game! Again, anyone with more knowledge the me suggest me other "strikers like games"", i Just Need more of em on my switch!
Great comment! Thanks for sharing this, Not even just Missile Dancer, ALL terarin games are accessible, including Raging Blasters, Image Striker, and even Moon Dancer 😎🤙🏾 - also Raging Blasters is on switch! One last thing... A 2CC is AWESOME on a Psikyo game!!!
@@AKTANEARCADE Thank you! Btw the discussion was amazing, It was super empathetic with the p.o.v. of new players which Is really rare in the general shmup discussion. I think the main problem of this genre Is that, or you have been playing videogames since the arcade times so you know where you are throwing yourself into or you must be 1) interested in such a niche genre + 2) be lucky to find in the First 2-3 games (before you start doubting the genre and if it was all a money waste) the one that really vibes with you and doesnt feel like unfair, chaotic, and a waste of money which as of today you could have spent on really enormous, accessible, attractive games given how infinite Is the modern market. That, plus the fact that generally the games usually suggested for new players, as you too said, are not even that good to start with, to even make the entry in the genre even less frustrating... There are SO MUCH MANY old arcade and new (and very difficult) shmup games that are made for and by those specific "veteran" players that as a beginner, given this widespread 1cc mentality too, it looks cool but playing it makes you feel frustrated or inadequate etc People generally entering a videogame, especially maybe simple looking as a shmup, don't expect to have to organize the gameplay almost as a job by playing every level 20/40 times to then "be able to play It". I think as for now it's yet a niche genre super close on itself and with a pool of games generally too hardcore and money risking for any newbie even just a bit interested in it but with almost no background knowledge, and as you said i think too that in the next years it should have some must have new standards like an on/off autobombing mode, possibility to play separate stages, novice mode etc etc It needs to generally evolve and compensate the enormous pool of hard games with a lot of accessibility to expand the player base and having more money running increasing so the numer of games and quality. Keep up the good work and sorry for the long text but i really liked this conversation, It was just too good and rare ^^
@@Sweetroll_EXE all good excellent points and I couldn't agree more! And I'm glad you agree because I've been saying this for a while but it falls on deaf ears fast... So I decided in Trying myself to create content that is sympathetic to this, we even had a podcast talking about 1CC Mentality on my channel that you might be interested in peeking at, as well. I'll keep this mind and keep thinking on ways to explain this perspective. I also guest starred on The Electric Underground podcast and said many of the same things as above, especially on the price point of a Shmup! In any case, see if you can use the list to get some more beginner wins under your belt 😊 and if you have more feedback for the list, please let us know. Shmups are a frustrating genre in general but the point was to limit that frustration for a newcomer and give them a breadth of opportunity so they can find a game that looks and sounds cool to them, but is also manageable.
@@AKTANEARCADE Thanks! I'll Watch It after work and I'm starting to catch up on all your other videos too, i'm too interested in all this and finally having this good coversations 🔥 have a nice day man ^^
I would love to know your opinions about "Caladrius Blaze" by MOSS (Raiden Series) and its beginner friendliness. It was my first serious shmup and I found its easier modes not too shabby. Edit: I'm currently trying to run through your list, at least the "Switch" Titles. And while I'm replaying Jamestown+ I came to the conclusion that this game shouldn't be tiered like it is here. Especially the last two stages "New Madrid" and "Croatoa" would be the downfall for everyone who is "Brand new to shmups" You can't even play those two levels in "normal" mode. "New Madrid" needs to be played at least in difficult and "Croatoa" needs a Legendary clear on every level before and its lowes difficulty is also Legendary. So I would move the Full Storymode to "Very Spicy" and the addition that you should play the gauntlet in co-op("Spicy"). The aspect ratio adds an additional layer of difficulty to this game in single play, imo. I would also specify the the "Brand New to Shmups" Tier is limited to the Normal Difficulty. And would make an additional Entry in "Spicy" for the Difficult setting and "New Madrid" . The Regular 1CC Gauntlet should be placed in "Very Spicy"
Good points on the story mode, we'll have to take another look at that. As for the regular 1cc Gauntlet, being that it's only 3 stages and 11minutes total, good use of the Vaunt system can make it quite forgiving. Much more so than the rest of the clears in Very Spicy which can push even more experienced players. As for Caladrius Blaze, we did take it into consideration however there were a few hang-ups. When playing as Sophie and making using of the shields it is definitely very forgiving, but now you're balancing 4 different weapons, 3 of which have a resource to manage on top of bombs and proper weapon leveling. We like to make sure the games on the list are fairly straightforward which is why something like Akai Katana isn't on there. Besides the odd control scheme the last level is a huge difficulty spike with the entire stage having aimed spikes that even Sophia's shield can't absorb. Then last boss is just strange in that it's really hard to tell what parts of it can actually hurt you. I personally enjoy the game but I would suggest Raiden V over this to a beginner, which is why we are currently vetting that one.
@@Chinopolis Ah, that makes sense. Haven't played Raiden 5 yet, but I had a blast with Raiden 4 Mikado Remix after my Caladrius Journey. About the other Switch titles I layed my hands on so far, I'm totally with you and your curation. :)
There's 3 different flavors of "very easy", so I think that's plenty. After that, theres thousands of games you can play. Are there any ones you wanted to recommend that are good games for beginners?
@@akairibbon4658 coryoon, while not difficult, doesn't teach a whole lot because it's all just tons of resources and you get hit a ton, or chain die, it's kind of a frustrating experience for a beginner. So it's not on the list. The other 3 games are great! Theyre just a little difficult and/or too specific for the list but someone coming out of the list could tackle any of them for sure. This is what our beginners have said. We rely on beginners for our beginner list and take their comments into consideration. I think Lords of Thunder with Earth Armor could fit though. I should see our notes on what happened there, perhaps it was just a bit too difficult with the stage routes.
@@AKTANEARCADE Huh, alright that's fair. And I guess Coryoon is kinda dumb gameplay. Just figured it was probably the easiest possible shmup cuz you have unlimited lives almost.
Thank you very much for this video and the thought you put into beginners like me chasing the 1cc high! Where would you put 19XX, if you have any experience with that?
You know it's funny that you should ask this! I have been dabbling in this game and I would say that the difficulty is high, and that is because in this game, you should not be dodging anything, you should know beforehand exactly where to be and what to do. There is some dodging in earlier stages, but this seems like an extremely route heavy game. I find it hard to judge difficulty of those because my personal skill set in routing and memorizing is extremely poor 😂. We might be doing this game in a replay showcase that tomzaczz is cooking up, so stay tuned for a commentated clear so you can learn more!
@@AKTANEARCADE Fantastic! One of my first shmup purchases was the Capcom Arcade bundle this is in, and I gravitated to it immediately. I put it down to try some other games first, like Novice Clover, but I thought about trying to make a short video of it detailing tips and tricks for said memorization. Sounds like you're already way ahead of me there!
If this comment thread is for beginners popping off, I just got my first ever 1cc clear with Crimzon Clover Novice Original! The endorphins I got made me want to never play a game with cutscenes again.
great discussion. when i first tried getting into shmups, i was definitely out of my element by playing games on difficulties outside my experience, even when trying to credit feed, it sort of turned me off of them for a while. the beginner list has been super helpful in me getting more into shmups and also i'm having a blast playing through these games and it's really fulfilling to feel like i am starting to get a little better.
Hell yeah! If it unlocks the fun that's worth it for me! Thanks a lot for jumping in - and keep us posted if you hit a wall of course!
Major props for putting this together! I’m at the beginning of my shmup journey, and though I’ve found lots of great resources out there, this is the first one I’ve seen that is created by fellow beginners. Love it!
It's a big part of how we curate the list! I'm by no means a beginner any more so I myself am not allowed to add to the list or give opinions, we get actual beginners to curate the games so we can be sure there isn't something that we're missing that will trip up a beginner!
@@AKTANEARCADE Ah, yes, that makes sense. Two games I wanted to ask about, since I will own them in the near future, are Deathsmiles & Deathsmiles 2. I’ve seen at least the first game listed as a beginner-friendly shmup elsewhere. Do y’all think either of them fits anywhere on this list?
@@RobotPlaysGames I think they're right on the edge, Deathsmiles 2x with Rosa was very chill for me, Deathsmiles 1 was a bit too difficult. It's a little odd with those because I'm the ports you can pick level 1 difficulty for each stage but then the castle will be super hard difficulty spike, for example in the first one. The second one has a more level playing field. I think you can work on them and clear them but they are pretty difficult at first for a beginner for 1CC. They're not unobtainable though, and on the easier side. The mechanics in the games can be a bit complicated too, so it's maybe a lot to take in for a beginner.
@@AKTANEARCADE thanks for your feedback!
@@RobotPlaysGames np! don't let it stop you from rocking those games! Some folks can handle more out the gate than others 😉
Solid stuff!! and it's great to hear Chinop - it's been ages since I popped into a stream of his.
Amazing concept. A thoughtful list (thanks! I'll be using it).
2 games that I'm surprised are not on the list are Barrage Fantasia (the UA-cam Shmupers around you have posted several great UA-cam vidoes that got me back into it) and Neko Navy by DeathMofuMofu.
Neko Navy is initially pretty easy and has an award structure that directs the player towards an increasing challenge. It is also widely available and has a relatively simple scoring system for an STG/Shmup.
Barrage Fantasia is on the list under Spicy! It's a great game!
Neko Navy we should definitely consider.. though the game is a little odd and has some weird spikes, it does teach resource management and abundant bomb use ...We'll need a beginner to curate that one and then it'll go on 👍🏾
I absolutely love this list, seeing the orange change to green when I get that clear is a super great feeling!
I did have two suggestions to make: the Touhou spreadsheet is kind of hard to just read right off since the titles only have the number of what it is in the series, and I had to keep going back and forth trying to figure out which game is which. For instance on Steam, they don't usually give you what number it is in the series, just the name. I eventually just changed all the cells to have the names after, like "Touhou 7: Perfect Cherry Blossom" which has helped a lot. I wasn't even brand new to Touhou, but had a lot of trouble with the readability of the list.
The other suggestion was 2 games that are super beginner friendly and I don't see brought up nearly at all on the shmup side of youtube: Cosmo Dreamer and Like Dreamer, both made by the same dev. They are both super solid games that I honestly feel like should be brought up more often as a recommendation to those who are just starting their shmup journey
Thanks for yall's work! And Aktane, when I heard you talking about Crimson Clover's Novice mode on Mark's podcast, and how you got the 1cc after realizing bombs are tied to a meter, I revisited that game and after a couple of days of grinding some runs and training against the stage 5 boss and TLB, I was able to squeeze out the 1cc! So thanks for helping me realize to actually take advantage of the resources the game gives you lol
Great suggestions! I love cosmodreamer 😬 haven't played like dreamer yet but that dev absolutely NAILS game flow, the stage flow and rhythms Is mind blowing. I'll have some folks curate those games ASAP! On the Touhou list, we can add the names! Thank you!
Okay we've added the names, RE: Cosmodreamer easy we need to figure out if we can add with a caveat. Here's what happened with your beginner player, they played well, no missed the game and then got the TLB stage at the end and got crushed by the massive difficulty spike. And that really deflated them... I don't know if that's the right beginner experience
@@AKTANEARCADE I wish that YT would actually notify me when there's a reply lmao. I literally just stumbled upon this wondering if there had ever been another reply. Hmmmm, I mean everyone is going to have a different experience their first time, and that's applicable to any game on the list. I just suggested Cosmo Dreamer as a beginner friendly game as it is super forgiving, especially when choosing your loadout as you can boost the shield even further than boosting another weapon. And also the progression of the game, as you complete every stage, stage-by-stage to unlock the arcade mode (called Trials mode for whatever reason in the game). I just replayed the last stage, and I do see what you mean about it being a difficulty spike, as I cleared the stage with 2-misses just now on "Casual", and more than likely my first time through I had to restart the stage. But with everyone being different, your beginner player no-missed the whole game except for the last stage, whereas I definitely died many times the first time I played. My first 1cc was Imperishable Night, and all Touhou games get much more difficult past stage 3. I kept dying to Marisa (stage 4 boss playing as Reimu) over and over and over again until I could beat her. And Imperishable Night is listed as "Brand New to Shmups," though all Touhou games are hard, even on Easy, especially to newbies. But yeah I'm not exactly sure then. Because a 1cc of Cosmo Dreamer clearly isn't Spicy or Very Spicy, and nearly any TLB is going to be a difficulty spike. Sorry, I just thought it was an ideal candidate for the list, but I understand that not everyone will have the same experience with the game as I did, and I definitely don't want to recommend a game that will only leave somebody deflated :(
@@AKTANEARCADE But also thanks for adding the names to the Tohou games!
@@epi652 totally agree with everything you said!
Amazing video guys! Thanks for putting this out for the new players or even the experienced players that has been reserved on trying a 1cc, this will help a lot!
Mr.Cvlt! Last I saw you were crushing it at Gordito's house 😁 thanks very much and please let me know if the Spanish speakers have comments for the list or if it can help them! It's a work in progress of course! We try to add to it constantly
Super grateful for this. I just got the Heaven 1CC in BWRP, and it was just the perfect level of enjoyable and doable. Can't wait to try some of the other recommendations.
Every day that I consider if we are doing something that is worthwhile or needed in the community, and whether it really makes a difference, is washed away by your comment and those that are enjoying their time with this curated list! Love this ! 👌🏽💯 Hope you can enjoy more games with this ramp up!
I am so glad I ran into this list. Originally I wanted to go through some classic series like R-Type and Gradius, but now I know these are a pain in the butt, while I enjoy the games from the list much more.
As a note, I find the Touhou games from the Brand New section comparatively challenging. Touhou 8 required a couple of hours of practice with Reimu, Touhou 6 still is a 3cc after 3 hours of practice, while I went through Mushihimesama futari novice original/maniac with different characters and Danmaku Festival II like it was a toddler's game.
@@danny.ray101 excellent notes!!! I will pass on to Chinopolis to make any adjustments we need. We really appreciate exactly this feedback from beginners themselves so we can make sure we're not turning into the thing that we hate - experts trying to gauge difficulty...
@@AKTANEARCADE hey man, I have progressed quite a bit on this list - today finally Mushi OG novice 1cc after weeks of failure and frustration -, and so I would like to give you some more pointers.
Most of the games in the brand new to shmups section I played (and liked) were a 1cc on first or second attempt. The one title you might want to reassess would be DDP DFK novice 1.5 imo. I think it's comparable to Mushihimesama Futari Novice Ultra (spicy section), but it throws even more stuff at you. In terms of difficulty I would rank this challenge between Mushi Futari Novice Ultra and Mushi OG Novice Original, so more like Spicy section.
Regarding the Touhou titles the easiest and most beginner-friendly games in my opinion are Danmaku Festival 2 -> Blue Devil -> Danmaku Festival 1 -> Touhou 8 (if you use Reimu/Barrier team because it gives you a generous deathbomb window). I would put all the other Touhou titles (so far) at least into Spicy. These games are not very generous with lives and bombs and there is also no autobomb which would essentially allow you to take considerably more hits.
Does the discord server still exist?
I'm new but I have retro consoles. I went down that rabbit hole. I still dig this video and creating a path for new players I think is really cool.
Much appreciated 👍🏾 and we are still working on this list, but certainly I'm no beginner now almost 2 years of playing so need others to vet some of these! 💘
Back when I started, I would mostly play the best ones and just immediately suck at them. Nowadays, I pick ones that interest me the most and see how I can get good at them. Definitely ones I recommend for beginners are the Aleste series and the Soldier series. (Mostly Final Soldier and Soldier Blade).
Great recommendations!!!
@treeghettox 100%!!!
Excellent list of games. Will help folks get pointed in the right direction. Some of the best times are credit feeding shmups/beatem ups with family and friends. Thanks guys👊
I love credit feeding beatemups and stuff with my wife! Super fun times
Nice, thanks for this. Good choices!
Crimzon Clover Novice mode is a great starting point.
Thanks for motivating me to clear/re-clear some of these games!
It's one of the best, I agree!
You already know I'm right there with you on Thunder Force III. Great discussion, guys.
thank you! Speaking of which... Schildmaid MX Jaeger belongs on this list and is being added ASAP! We will put it under Spicy.
TF3 is a hot topic haha 😁 on one hand it is quite harsh, and on the other hand if you're trying to get into those kinds of games, it SEEMS it can even be considered gentle compared to the rest!!
@@AKTANEARCADE Thank you! Yeah, of course I'm very much biased and it's tough to gauge an overall difficulty for the average player for a game you've made yourself, but I should think a no loop skip clear of Jaeger ranks on the lower end of the difficulty scale, looking at the low intensity of the stage designs and the fact that you can shield through bullets and have constantly replenishing supers.
@@michielkroder4031 and we will allow checkpoint restarts of course! Which is what makes it so accessible. I know at least one person who entered Shmups from Schildmaid! 😎
@@AKTANEARCADE Haha, me too!
Thanks for this list, its changed my whole outlook on shmups!
Well dang! Glad to be of help and service 🐕🦺 😊
This is a great list and a great idea. It's so easy for shmups players to lose context for what is "hard" and "easy" that's a great point. My first 1cc was Darius Gaiden but that's not a game I can recommend to a new shmups player.
I think Cotton Reboot and Cotton Rock n Roll/Fantasy are good additions to consider!
Also I feel that the Murakumo I'm Darius burst AC EX+ is a fantastic beginner ship!
But then again... Maybe I'm just used to shot switching? Maybe it's not great for beginners at all? Lol
We need a shmup term for losing touch with difficulty
@@GojiGuy it's so hard🤣 I'm losing touch daily, that's why we still have newer players curate the games, not US any more, we make suggestions but the beginners themselves have to curate the game and that's the only way you'll be able to see it through their eyes anymore 😆
Can definitely recommend this list, I've tried most if not all of these and found some of my favorites this way.
Except Coryoon.. but thankfully that isn't on the list anymore 😂
Haha thanks Dubs and also appreciate the vetting! Always helps to have another set of Shmup hands on these 😎
42:45 I fell asleep and didnt finish this video. To a shmup player that plays the game that I also playing, I always tend to report on my progress. I always tend to report to bug the hell out on M Knight Jul and Shmup Junkie before and now Aktane is the new person for me to report my progress. Hope you guys dont find me annoying.
Edit. I am still not convinced about Touhou. Its too confusing and incomprehensible for me most of the time.
I avoid Touhou personally because i have visual issues with the games sometimes so, I'm with you on that! Have a look at something like Cosmodreamer or Danmakai which are Touhou-esque but a little different and a bit more clear... A bit...and really interesting
My first 1cc was Blue Revolver normal. Looking at this list now I feel kinda proud ngl, I'll look into the other shmups on the last category to see if it was a fluke or not :)
Hahaha - well other Shmups may have different skills they are testing. Hope you enjoy exploring the list!
Really great list! I play shumps from time to time for 2-3 years now. I am now at a state where I have 1cc'd Crimzon Clover arrange, DFK (1 loop) and Batsugun special. Before that it took some time to beat Ketsui Deathtiny Mode, for example. Now this mode seems like a cakewalk to me. All the super easy modes are "too easy" now. However, at the moment I am at a point where there is a great wall. I do not see how it would be possible for me to beat Dodonpachi or Radiant silvergun.
Hmm interesting there's a lot for me to say here, for one, in the very spicy section of the list, none of those will be "super easy" levels of easy... So try some of those! They still might be too easy but won't be pushovers... 🤔 there's a lot that could be stopping you from moving forward in the games you mentioned. There are some good intermediate Shmups but it really becomes about what you enjoy and can dedicate yourself to. I find a lot of console Shmups fit this intermediate category. Me for example I (with a lot of hours) cleared DDP in my first year, and it was pretty hard, but based on your clears, it would be attainable but difficultyl stretch goal for you with some practice, I recommend C-S ship. Radiant Silvergun is a bit too confusing unless you followed a strategy because in addition to dodging there is a lot of experimentation required. I would not go for that yet. Some great intermediate games are like Eschatos Original, GG Aleste 3, Zanac Neo, Recca, Cho Ren Sha (1-all), Cotton Reboot and if you're feeling very spicy maybe Mushi Original 1.5 (M Shot) or DDP 1-all with CS. But it's really about what do YOU enjoy ... what kind of games do you like and can dedicate time to...
@@AKTANEARCADE Thanks! I really liked Cho Ren Sha when trying it. Maybe I will go for that. DDP 1all could be possible, too, I guess. Problem is most of the time I do not play with a clear plan (practicing sections, analysing playthroughs etc.). I think it would really need, let`s say a full week of time and dedication.
@@dr-gorgo it took me months to clear DDP playing on and off haha. Spent a month once and could not clear it and had to come back. A week is short! if you can clear a game in a week then I consider it inside your comfort zone! Nowadays that's the kind of games I like to play but I'm gonna go after Garegga as my stretch clear
@@AKTANEARCADE Haha, I think you are right. A week would probably by far not enough time for such a project.
@@AKTANEARCADE I just tried DDP and you are right. I think this is impossible for me, lol. What I meant wasn't even this game. It was the original Donpachi, lol.
Really useful and helpful, cheers both!
Great to hear thanks 🙏🏽👍💯
Ghost Blade HD is an easy one for 1cc too
Nice! Thanks for that suggestion! We will have a beginner curate it and then onto the list it will go!!
Great content, very helpful, subscribed!
Cheers! I need to do more talks 😫
I've been exposed to the world of shmup for more than a year and I only managed to 1cc 2 games so far. I still haven't properly play most shmups I own but I feel like I want to get another one despite barely having any progress on Blue Revolver.
13:44 specific manner? I sure do tend to like a game that doesnt really play like your average genre.
Yeah Akai Katana is a game where you're not dodging 99% of the time on novice especially, if you know how to recharge your invincibility, you're just sorta resource managing for the most part!
@@AKTANEARCADE Another thing I wish other shmup would implement is "conquest mode". Its something that is available in Ikaruga(I am not sure on what version) and Xmas Shooting Scramble.
@@soratheorangejuicemascot5809 conquest is available in Ikaruga GameCube but I haven't tried it yet as I don't have a GameCube and haven't gone down there emulation rabbit hole. Is it just a mission mode? You might want to have a look at Jamestown+ which has a ton of modes as well as M2 port challenge modes which break down classic arcade game levels into parts and each have medals and score
@@AKTANEARCADE Its more like an arcade mode but you can save after each stage. If you game over, you can just load the game on any of the stage. I think M Knight Jul can explain this better since my grammar sucks.... Btw, what is mission mode?
@@AKTANEARCADE I ain't sure about Jamestown.
100% thanks for this
im even the intermedate player (have 1cc some of them like Touhou normal, DDP, Mushi ori, Deathsmile, Espgaluda, Crimzon Clover arrange) and i want to try easy mode 1cc and i might try to make the excel list like that.
edit: i might download that excel file (probably gonna modified it for intermidate player.)
Yeah for sure! Download the list and use it as a basis! The thing about intermediate player, is it's more about preference than it is about difficulty, because skill sets differ and the games jump up in difficulty. I think if you're able to clear those cave games you can clear almost anything but you'll just have to find the right game for you! Something like GG Aleste 3, Akai Katana, Eschatos Original, maybe Recca, Crisis Force, MUSHA, Zanac Neo, but then also memo games like Gradius and Darius Gaiden... There's almost too many to list and some people that might find G-Darius Gaiden approachable, might find like Futari 1.5 OG to be difficult! I do think Crimzon Clover Arrange is a good intermediate difficulty.
@@AKTANEARCADE i play futari on Mame not sure its 1.5 or not but the original mode seems more like Maniac mode of the first Mushihimesama. and in futari original pattern isn't like Toaplan style but literally Bullet hell.
@@RuV9999 yep that's 1.5 I think! I also recommend Black Label but not sure if it's on mame, I am playing the physical disc version on my 360
Hey Aktane I'll be checking out the video(I'm travelling) later just wanted to say try Vasara 1 and 2 you can get the collection on steam too for pretty cheap. Also there's a Shmup sale going which games you looking to pick up? I already feel bad for my wallet lmao.
I have way too many games because I keep up quite a bit! I would recommend if you buy Vasara to play on Mame and don't use the port, it's a very barebones port and doesn't run great... And do not buy Vasara for switch unless you're good with massive input lag! (I own it on switch and never play it there as it is just too sloshy) - as far as great games to pick up, I'd need to review the sales but ya can't go wrong with Crimzon Clover, Blue Revolver, the Cave games, Operation STEEL (new indie game that is awesome!), And of course the mighty Zero Ranger 😁; cosmodreamer is also an amazing game. There's too many great Shmups to list! Just off the top of my head hah
@@AKTANEARCADE thanks. Btw can you link/invite me to the Shmup discord?
discord.gg/2QrfnAnt here is the link to the Shmup Junkie discord where I hang out! Sorry for getting back to you so late!
@@AKTANEARCADE Thanks man see you there
I've looked at this before, this is in junkies discord right? Nice to break this down aktane, as a beginner, the list may be intimidating or not know where to start exactly and choose one that is maybe too tough and turn them off to stg's.
Yeah it is, I and Chinop helped organize and populate it with huge help from the community who keep us in mind and test the list
@@AKTANEARCADE all right, also, can I be that guy who recommended gleylancer due to fair difficulty, availability on multiple systems, price, easy of game mechanics. There are some things here and there, but I would say that it's a good beginning shmup, because of it, I'm getting better at other shmup like darius now. skills do actually transfer which is expected, but still crazy.
@@Neobelmont1 for sure! Let's discuss it a bit! Would this be easy mode?
@@AKTANEARCADE definitely the modes. The modern gleylancer has a modern mode which allows switching of modes and a twin stick like control scheme in which you can control you secondary weapon via right stick, which vintage aka mega-drive/genesis ver does not have. Also there are save states, and even a "cheat mode" iirc I have never used this before so I can't comment on it. Very beginner friendly imo.
I started randomly really liking shmups with the strikers/gunbird games on my smartphone, they were amazing with clean visuals, multiple aircrafts, good sprite artworks and cool bosses etc the only problem was they were REALLY hard, all I could achieve was a 2cc on the First difficulty level of gunbird 2 and strikers 3, the next difficulty (normal lol) was just crazy brutal it wasnt even fun anymore, almost insane :( such a waste of such many cool things...
So i started searching for "strikers like" games on my switch but more straightforward, not too long and "Easy" (if anyone have any suggestion please suggest!), i found out Missile Dancer and i fell in love with it.
I managed to 1cc multiple times and really loved everything about It and wanting to play and master the harder difficulty level. I would really suggest It to anyone who Just started with shmups given it's accessibility ^^ such a cool game! Again, anyone with more knowledge the me suggest me other "strikers like games"", i Just Need more of em on my switch!
Great comment! Thanks for sharing this, Not even just Missile Dancer, ALL terarin games are accessible, including Raging Blasters, Image Striker, and even Moon Dancer 😎🤙🏾 - also Raging Blasters is on switch! One last thing... A 2CC is AWESOME on a Psikyo game!!!
@@AKTANEARCADE Thank you! Btw the discussion was amazing, It was super empathetic with the p.o.v. of new players which Is really rare in the general shmup discussion. I think the main problem of this genre Is that, or you have been playing videogames since the arcade times so you know where you are throwing yourself into or you must be 1) interested in such a niche genre + 2) be lucky to find in the First 2-3 games (before you start doubting the genre and if it was all a money waste) the one that really vibes with you and doesnt feel like unfair, chaotic, and a waste of money which as of today you could have spent on really enormous, accessible, attractive games given how infinite Is the modern market. That, plus the fact that generally the games usually suggested for new players, as you too said, are not even that good to start with, to even make the entry in the genre even less frustrating...
There are SO MUCH MANY old arcade and new (and very difficult) shmup games that are made for and by those specific "veteran" players that as a beginner, given this widespread 1cc mentality too, it looks cool but playing it makes you feel frustrated or inadequate etc
People generally entering a videogame, especially maybe simple looking as a shmup, don't expect to have to organize the gameplay almost as a job by playing every level 20/40 times to then "be able to play It".
I think as for now it's yet a niche genre super close on itself and with a pool of games generally too hardcore and money risking for any newbie even just a bit interested in it but with almost no background knowledge, and as you said i think too that in the next years it should have some must have new standards like an on/off autobombing mode, possibility to play separate stages, novice mode etc etc It needs to generally evolve and compensate the enormous pool of hard games with a lot of accessibility to expand the player base and having more money running increasing so the numer of games and quality.
Keep up the good work and sorry for the long text but i really liked this conversation, It was just too good and rare ^^
@@Sweetroll_EXE all good excellent points and I couldn't agree more! And I'm glad you agree because I've been saying this for a while but it falls on deaf ears fast... So I decided in Trying myself to create content that is sympathetic to this, we even had a podcast talking about 1CC Mentality on my channel that you might be interested in peeking at, as well. I'll keep this mind and keep thinking on ways to explain this perspective. I also guest starred on The Electric Underground podcast and said many of the same things as above, especially on the price point of a Shmup! In any case, see if you can use the list to get some more beginner wins under your belt 😊 and if you have more feedback for the list, please let us know. Shmups are a frustrating genre in general but the point was to limit that frustration for a newcomer and give them a breadth of opportunity so they can find a game that looks and sounds cool to them, but is also manageable.
ua-cam.com/video/Vi_zUgU_Yz0/v-deo.html here's that podcast just in case
@@AKTANEARCADE Thanks! I'll Watch It after work and I'm starting to catch up on all your other videos too, i'm too interested in all this and finally having this good coversations 🔥 have a nice day man ^^
I would love to know your opinions about "Caladrius Blaze" by MOSS (Raiden Series) and its beginner friendliness. It was my first serious shmup and I found its easier modes not too shabby.
Edit: I'm currently trying to run through your list, at least the "Switch" Titles. And while I'm replaying Jamestown+ I came to the conclusion that this game shouldn't be tiered like it is here. Especially the last two stages "New Madrid" and "Croatoa" would be the downfall for everyone who is "Brand new to shmups" You can't even play those two levels in "normal" mode. "New Madrid" needs to be played at least in difficult and "Croatoa" needs a Legendary clear on every level before and its lowes difficulty is also Legendary. So I would move the Full Storymode to "Very Spicy" and the addition that you should play the gauntlet in co-op("Spicy"). The aspect ratio adds an additional layer of difficulty to this game in single play, imo. I would also specify the the "Brand New to Shmups" Tier is limited to the Normal Difficulty. And would make an additional Entry in "Spicy" for the Difficult setting and "New Madrid" .
The Regular 1CC Gauntlet should be placed in "Very Spicy"
Good points on the story mode, we'll have to take another look at that. As for the regular 1cc Gauntlet, being that it's only 3 stages and 11minutes total, good use of the Vaunt system can make it quite forgiving. Much more so than the rest of the clears in Very Spicy which can push even more experienced players.
As for Caladrius Blaze, we did take it into consideration however there were a few hang-ups. When playing as Sophie and making using of the shields it is definitely very forgiving, but now you're balancing 4 different weapons, 3 of which have a resource to manage on top of bombs and proper weapon leveling. We like to make sure the games on the list are fairly straightforward which is why something like Akai Katana isn't on there.
Besides the odd control scheme the last level is a huge difficulty spike with the entire stage having aimed spikes that even Sophia's shield can't absorb. Then last boss is just strange in that it's really hard to tell what parts of it can actually hurt you. I personally enjoy the game but I would suggest Raiden V over this to a beginner, which is why we are currently vetting that one.
@@Chinopolis Ah, that makes sense. Haven't played Raiden 5 yet, but I had a blast with Raiden 4 Mikado Remix after my Caladrius Journey. About the other Switch titles I layed my hands on so far, I'm totally with you and your curation. :)
Genius.
Thanks fam
You should do the video with footage edited for the noobs 👍
missing so many good TG16 games for beginners. Weird list to me. Should have a "very easy" with different games.
There's 3 different flavors of "very easy", so I think that's plenty. After that, theres thousands of games you can play. Are there any ones you wanted to recommend that are good games for beginners?
@@AKTANEARCADE Coryoon, Sylphia, Lords of Thunder, Star Parodier
@@akairibbon4658 coryoon, while not difficult, doesn't teach a whole lot because it's all just tons of resources and you get hit a ton, or chain die, it's kind of a frustrating experience for a beginner. So it's not on the list. The other 3 games are great! Theyre just a little difficult and/or too specific for the list but someone coming out of the list could tackle any of them for sure. This is what our beginners have said. We rely on beginners for our beginner list and take their comments into consideration.
I think Lords of Thunder with Earth Armor could fit though. I should see our notes on what happened there, perhaps it was just a bit too difficult with the stage routes.
@@AKTANEARCADE Huh, alright that's fair. And I guess Coryoon is kinda dumb gameplay. Just figured it was probably the easiest possible shmup cuz you have unlimited lives almost.
Thank you very much for this video and the thought you put into beginners like me chasing the 1cc high!
Where would you put 19XX, if you have any experience with that?
You know it's funny that you should ask this! I have been dabbling in this game and I would say that the difficulty is high, and that is because in this game, you should not be dodging anything, you should know beforehand exactly where to be and what to do. There is some dodging in earlier stages, but this seems like an extremely route heavy game. I find it hard to judge difficulty of those because my personal skill set in routing and memorizing is extremely poor 😂.
We might be doing this game in a replay showcase that tomzaczz is cooking up, so stay tuned for a commentated clear so you can learn more!
@@AKTANEARCADE Fantastic! One of my first shmup purchases was the Capcom Arcade bundle this is in, and I gravitated to it immediately. I put it down to try some other games first, like Novice Clover, but I thought about trying to make a short video of it detailing tips and tricks for said memorization. Sounds like you're already way ahead of me there!
@@windup13ird60 not at all! Please make your video 😂 there isn't enough out there about the game especially with commentary
Doing God's work 👍
Wow thanks ❤️
Very insitefull and handsome. The best part was when you said nice things about me 😁
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If this comment thread is for beginners popping off, I just got my first ever 1cc clear with Crimzon Clover Novice Original! The endorphins I got made me want to never play a game with cutscenes again.
That's what we're trying to do!! Haha beware, you're entering an addiction 😂. Do you want to join Shmup Junkie discord with us?
Where is that? Only Discord shmup I have is Electric Underground's.
@@windup13ird60 discord.gg/txZFcAKz this is where the list was created and I hang out here..we're very beginner friendly