Bought this pack despite this awful review 😂 I love it, comfy as f**k and didn’t have a single problem that you’ve mentioned, in fact I’m a little confused as to what the hell you were reviewing..
I just watched Novice Wild campers review on this pack and he proved almost all of Luks points wrong. My impression is that its actually quite a decent pack worth the money (as its cheap)... Not everyone has the money to buy super expensive stuff and ultralight can be very expensive, so I actually would appreciate a decent budget pack which is why I am confused that he hates it so much. Makes me wonder if big channels as the outdoor gear review only push brands that send gear to them.....
Luke does his very best to analyze gear and be impartial. Unfortunately he often misunderstands products, their purpose and such. He also lets his emotions get in the way and make him biased , so if he doesn’t like something for some reason he will nitpick. Always find fault in things - it can be great as it exposes faults, but it can be overly done like it is here. He also heavily dissed the Naturehike Vik, which according to everyone else is a great tent. Maybe he’s got a trifle with the brand
It does seem like a lot of the complaints he has with the pack are because the pack doesn’t fit him well, and a few of the other complaints do seem to be nitpicking, having said that, I respect his opinion, but he should not be telling people not to buy it, it’s going to fit everyone differently and have features that appeal to other people. The only thing that I personally don’t like about the pack is that it doesn’t have an attachment point or pocket/pouch for a water bladder, everything else is fine from the other reviews I’ve seen
This pack works for me. The shoulder strap pocket is useless and way too high but works well for holding a gopro or hiking umbrella. The hip pockets are small but they hold a phone just fine or snacks. I have had no issues with the straps rubbing my neck. The sternum strap works for me but it truly should be adjustable. The exterior mesh pocket is huge and works well to store your tent or camp shoes. It stretches out a lot! The side mesh pockets stretch enough to hold two water bottles each. I dont think you were truly fair in your review as this is a great lightweight budget pack that is not nearly as horrible as you made it out to be.
Love this pack. Have used and will continue to use on multiple trips. Fits great, but I am a normal, 6 ft 1 205 lb guy, rolling a lightweight load with no more than 4 days of gear. Not a single issue presented here has affected my experience with this pack in any way shape or form, and I gave it am honest, outstanding, review for the price. If you are looking for a super high end backpack this isn't it. If you're looking for something sub-$100 that's lightweight this is an excellent pack to borrow from someone and give a shot for a weekend trip. Best wishes.
Actually a 60L + 5L ….so that was wrong…. Then the way he cinches up the roll top … so that was wrong…. I can fit my iPhone in the hip pocket …. So that was wrong…. He never talked about the adjustable hip belt to lengthen the torso length… so that was wrong …. It definitely has its foibles for sure … it does not work with short torso lengths definitely …. But try getting a pack that weighs around 2lb for that money ! I don’t know why his was so uncomfortable … I’ve done a number of multi day trips with mine with no problem perhaps Luke didn’t have it adjusted properly or he had it overloaded ….
I have the dcf version of this pack, it's very similar to my HMG pack. Every trip I've taken this pack on, it's worked well for me. He's right about a couple things, like the hip belt pockets, they're tiny, you can fit bars or your car keys and that's about it. It's a one size fits all kinda thing, it doesn't give you sizes to choose from like other companies. I'd say it would be equivalent to a size, mens large. I'm 6'3 and it fits me quite well. I would change the size of the hip belt pockets, but it's by no means a deal breaker for me. Overall I'm glad I got it. If you're 6 foot or taller it's not a bad bag. If you're shorter than 6 foot, then frame size will be an issue. But if you're taller, it'll work fine. Normally his reviews are in point, but this one missd the mark. Only thing I can think of, is that he's not as tall as me, and the frame size is meant more so for taller people. The pack would have been more comfortable if he had the right sized pack.
@@akidddkidd There is no Xpac version of this backpack. The 45+5L Xpac Ultra-Light is different, but it does have similar features. Note that, being an ultralight pack, the 45+5L has a top compression strap rather than dedicated load lifters.
I have the dyneema version of this pack. I carried 29 lbs comfortably over 75 mi in 4 days. One day I did 25 and a half miles it's 6,000 ft of elevation gain. I'm six foot one and I found it completely comfortable. I was able to stuff my whole tent and ground cover in the outside main pocket. The side straps are used to compress the top roll back you don't have to click it together at the top you can impress it down the sides by connecting. I like your reviews a lot Luke and trust them. However I'm happy I bought this pack before you reviewed it.
@@NoviceWildCamper I agree, I used this pack again this past weekend and it was comfortable. I am still yet to have any neck rubbing or any other issues Luke complained about.
And this is why no-one should ever make their purchasing decisions based on what a single influencer says. The pack has some pretty good reviews on Amazon. There other YTer vids where they like it a lot. Dear reader; always research across multiple platforms & don't be a sheep to one person's opinions, no matter how much you may respect them. No-one is right about everything.
Yes he had the top wrong. There are side straps that connect to the top to pull the sides down and back and then you can even stack something on top and strap it down with the draw strings.
luke, the compression strap that you put across the front is actually meant for securing the buckles of the roll top, instead of clickin those together ;)
@@briangivens4206 This is shown in almost every photo that is supplied at the point of sale. It is also a feature on many ultralight folding top packs.
I've hiked a couple of hundred miles with this pack. I didn't find it rubbed on my neck at all (I'm 6" and around a 16 inch neck) whilst wearing a t-shirt but did find the torso length really weird - it is somewhat adjustable but even for me I think it was a little long. The shoulder straps are attached at the wrong height I think, so they didn't shape all that well for me. I agree with the point that it is difficult to see what body type this is ideally suited for - someone tall and skinny maybe? Odd choice considering Naturehike's main market is China domestic plus the rest of SE Asia. However it was comfortable with a 7kg BW / 13 Kg total and I've done some pretty big days with it. The hip belt pockets are not as bad as made out here I don't think. All in all for the $70 it cost on sale I think its excellent value. I intend to keep using mine in winter and going for something smaller in summer.
I got mine today, and at 6'2" & 180 this fits me just fine. It's got a nice little aluminium frame for rigidity, there's plenty of padding in the back, the hip belt's fine, and the sternum strap is where I'd expect it to be. I'm packing a 16 pound pack for a 2 week / 300 mile hike and it seems perfectly fit for purpose. Seems you need to be over 6 foot to be happy with this backpack. Also the strap-closure for the top isn't as demonstrated in this video, it's a lot more secure if done correctly.
Good point. Noticed that too. This list at 12:35 is funny. I can imagine how this meeting went. What can we think off how to use a backpack. You can also use it to crawl home on your knees while being drunk coming from the bar. Good point. You can put in a book, a duck, a squirrel, a fish but not a tuna, a table leg, flowers, a coconut, firewood, veggies at the supermarket, beer (sold separately) or body parts after you murdered someone, maybe not all of it at once depending on the age. Use it on a bus, in a train, on a boat or floating on one of them blow up unicorns. It's useful when a comet hits the earth cause maybe you are not hiking where it strikes but you are back at the shop to buy another pack that's good.(Company meeting mumbling...guys what else can we think off) And the disaster prevention is funny. Not buying this pack prevents the biggest disaster.
I'm quite sure the shoulder straps are even. Seems like he just did a very bad job at adjusting the load lifters. Look closely at 6:52. It's almost as he desperately wants this pack to look bad...
I own this pack and like it. Have done long hikes and no complaints. I put a carbiner on the front for a water bottle and tuck it under the sternum strap. Use it a lot for biking with tools, fiahing gear, and lunch.
Actually its less $90.. bought mine for 60.. actually is a really good bag for its price.. I don't know this guy talking about.. but its a really good bag to buy..
The "three inches apart" design isn't all that uncommon. The difference is that most angle them outward enough to compensate. My GoLite is similar behind my neck, but the 20-30 degree angle puts it around 7 or 8 inches on the shoulders.
This review seems odd. I thought it was normal at first, but then you started complaining about every single detail of the pack... I only managed to watch till the "belt pocket part not being big enough to carry a phone" when showing a quite good sized pocket that would hold any regular phone, I really don't know if you are some of those people that use an ipad as a phone LOL., also the shoulder straps being "too close" is very over the board, I've seen backpacks with even less space between them not presenting problems to anyone, and here suddenly it's a big deal? What are you 4ft as 8ft to find this troubling? All in all this seems as an unfair review that is seeking for points to nitpick..
It looks like someone looked at some UL packs and decided to just make one based on a picture w/out ever considering any specifics. To of course get into the UL pack market. Most UL hikers aren't using a pack that large anyway...
I think the main problem with this pack is that it's not ajustable for back length. This means that a shorter guy (no offence intended, i'm just 1m79 myself) will not get it to fit right, which leads to the comments about the gap width with the shoulder straps, and sternum strap etc. Honestly, none of my packs have a wider width between the straps, and that's not a problem if the pack is the right size for you and the straps aren't located at your nape. The only times i've found it to be a problem, is with packs which are just too big for me. If the shoulder straps are digging into your shoulders or neck, then you haven't fit the pack correctly (if it's adjustable), or it's just the wrong size. The shoulder straps shouldn't be carrying the weight, but instead should just be holding a hiking pack to your back. The waist belt is what carries the weight. None of my packs even have the shoulder straps touching the top of my shoulders when adjusted well with the load lifters. Also, you get what you pay for. At the pricepoint, it's a good pack, AS LONG as it's the right size for you. That's why most packs have adjustable backs, or come in multiple sizes. Which is definitly something naturehike should look into. Not to say there aren't problems (no sleeve for a hydration system seems weird for a pack with ports for it, but i do think you were a bit too harsh in your review due to the reasons mentioned above, which just point to you using the wrong size pack for your body type.
Nice to know how a backpack is supposed to work letting people know what it is to look for in a backpack. I've never known a backpack side-pocket to be handy; I would never use a backpack to store my cell phone. I usually use a side-pack for maps, cell phone, compass, water/electrolyte drink.
I’ve got few bits of naturehike stuff, a mongar 2 tent, some carbon trekking poles. Some merino socks. A great down sleeping bag. I’ve been really pleased with the design and quality of all pieces. I guess this pack was way off the mark. For packs & critical comfort I would always go with a big company like osprey or alike.
I have this pack but don't have as many issues with it. But I also would only recommend it to guys with long torsos. For me reaching back for water bottles is the easiest out of all the packs I own. I find the foam on the back doesn't really touch my back so it's quite breezy. The sternum strap is just high enough for me. But yeah, the hip pockets are too small and the shoulder straps aren't well designed. I plan on adding some soft foam on the shoulder straps
@@stoicodysseys6352 There is a difference between luke giving airtime to co's who give him stuff and stuff he buys. He has crapped on plenty of free stuff given to him.
@@stoicodysseys6352 He's crapped on free stuff he was given plenty of times. Sure he may be a little biased like any person, but he isn't pushing any agendas and isn't in bed with any companies.
Personally I don't like it when reviewers start talking about a subject in this case the chest strap four times each time just saying you'll talk about it in just a second you could have finished the sentence and your points about the chest strap in the time you took to say you talk about it in just a second four times.
I have this exact pack. It comes with the sternum strap. The 40 doesn’t and it’s says that in the website. That’s why some people don’t get them. It’s not terrible. There are cons but a lot of pros as well. My only issue is with the harness system as well. But I’ve been able to carry 25-28 lbs in it
Just checked my kestrel 48 and its only a 3" gap on the harness as well, I have seen a other comments saying there back packs were similar. Did you check other packs for the gap width? But to be fair it was a nice long review and you def don't like it :)
Honestly, about midway through the video I lost interest due to so many cons. Who would buy that junk? Great information though, and that is why keep coming back. 👍💖
I got the Dynema version of this pack because of the features and great price. Also had seen some reviews that were mostly positive, though some did point out the issue with the sizing not being right for everyone. Ive yet to do a hike in it, so can't speak to the comfort issues yet. I did a max weight packout test and it seemed ok, no issue with the straps on my neck anyway. The load lifters work at first but seem to slip, at least with the weight I had in. I didnt notice a major issue with the sternum strap but again I didnt hike in it yet. The build quality seems very good for $100AUD. Though I notice yours seems to have uneven straps? I even noticed the outward bend in the straps which presumably is supposed to be for your neck is too low, near you chest. Could be why you had neck issues. Hopefully the comfort for me is "good enough" even though I'm only 5'7". If not, I'll see if any of my taller mates want it, might be great for them. We don't have a lot of affordable options in Australia, so it has a lot of initial appeal.
I think a good edition to your reviews would be recommending alternative packs in the same price range or with similar features. Gives you an excuse to link your other reviews too 🤣
You also mentioned it's close on your back near the top? I think mine wasn't like that. Id have to try it again to check. But that could be another sign of your straps being incorrectly stitched / positioned.
It seems like you are wearing the pack a bit to high up on your back? If you lower it a inch or two, it would probably fit better, giving more space for the neck (due ti how the straps are made) and the cheststrap would be higher up.
Yep agreed, there are bends in the straps for it. It's possible it's the wrong size for him or the straps were incorrectly stitched or he's just wearing it too tight and high? Dunno.
Maybe words don't cover his feelings or the words haven't been invented yet😉. Besides its a family entertaining informative video and there could be kids watching
It's a really good review, and I can confirm all that: it's really lightweight, has a durable materials, nice big pocket... and that's it. I'm 175 cm (5'9"), and it's way too long for my torso. If you're not at least 182+cm (6'), don't buy it, it will ruin your trip. Body strap is too low to help you carry your weight. No place for water bladder. If Naturehike could change these I would definitely buy this pack.
I think someone did wee wee in Luke’s corn flakes or is it raisin brand! This pack ain’t near as bad as he claims, though not perfect, but for the price it is fine. I have humped so many packs over my life time both in my 20 years in the Marine Corps and after I retired 20 years ago. If you look at Luke’s gear, he is a bit spoiled although I do enjoy watching his videos, but sometimes he goes high and to the right every now and then. He must make some good money,because I could never afford a lot of the gear he carries around in his videos. Plus he can be a bit of a poser, coming across as the Aw Shucks kinda dude😂
Wow!!!! It looks like a great pack.... but thank you very much for every review you do on all types of gear.... I'm here to say thank you and as I'm sure I'm not alone in saying I look to you for alot of gear I'm either going to buy looking to buy or most importantly not going to buy!!!! Your a great man.....God bless
This video made me do a double take. I don't think any of my packs have the straps spaced out over 3". Eyeballing a few they seem to be closer together. I'd guess the issue is the angle at which they are attached to the pack and the position of the attachment. Definitely seems like they have something to learn about making packs. My old CloudUp 2 is still going strong though.
I have the 40+5 and I really like it. It’s so comfy. I’m 5’8 and after a 15 mile hike I had no problems. My 14yr old daughter used it on her DOE and loved it too! She did take the water bottle carrier off but she had no complaints all. I’d recommend it to anyone!!!!
I have the 40+10 naturehike pack and mine did not come with the sternum strap and the shoulder pocket is larger and removable on mine, I find the pack comfortable
Thanks for an honest review I had a Freind that brought a backpack on ebay I'm not sure if it's the exact same one mind but he had almost the same issues and he is 6'3 like me so I recommended the Snugpack 100 litre Bergen to him as I've tried and tested that over 30 times now and it is the buisnes with a 70 litre centre and 2 15 litre rocket packs that are detachable via zips and can be attached to a yolk for a 30 litre day pack. You don't get a rain cover included in the purchase. I however have the patrol poncho that keeps me and the bergen dry it would of been nice to of included the rain cover for but that is an extra purchase on top and I already had the poncho so it was unessasary.
I respect the non bias opinion you give, it really does matter. I agree with your review. I do a lot of camping and that bag is only useful for spare items kept in a vehicle.
My first impression, seeing this on you is that the shoulder straps are sewn on square at the top and doesn't match the natural slope of your shoulders. That, combined with the narrow spacing is the death knell for it...comfort wise. It looks dumb with the inside edges resting on your shoulders and the outside edges floating in space..lol kinda like and 80's big hair rock band outfit 😏
This guy loves heavy weight military gear. He buys cheap stuff on purpose so he can rip them apart as that's what draws most people to his reviews. BTW, I just measured my 3 Osprey Packs and they average around 3.5" at the neck.
Looking at some of the comments, some people really like this product and love using it, although the cons made in this review should be considered when looking to buy a new backpack, sometimes if you like something, your just going to like it 😊
I have this pack and use it all the time and I think it’s fantastic I have use it on loads of 100+ mile hikes and never had a problem with it just goes to show try before you buy everyone is different
I'm new here, was recommended by UA-cam because I've been watching TA outdoors. I'm enjoying your content but you have so much to go through! I'd love it if you could do some overview type videos where you go through your top 5 or top 10 or best for each price range. Just a quick minute on a couple of products and links to these full review type videos, especially for tents. I think it would be good for you as well because everyone knows how much UA-cam loves top 10 vids!
Thank you for your honesty. ---- I reviewed the packs tested and commented on and noticed no North Face bags. Is there something non-military about them you don't care for? I'd really like to hear your opinion on the Terra 50. It's simple, minimal adjustments, hated and loved. Looks like a solid tough pack.
Really, I looked at it and thought it was definitely worth buying. Glad I watched this video, but truth is I have a backpack that is serviceable and I don't hike enough to get anything else.
This is NatureHike’s take (a poor take) on the fabulous Gossamer Gear Mariposa. I find it’s impossible to access my water bottle in all backpacks. My main con with respect to the Mariposa pack is that it’s extremely difficult to get my large gear into the main internal pocket because it collapses in on itself. I appreciate its light weight (2 lbs), but I would like a detachable brain option and a bottom accessible pocket.
I have a very similar backpack from OneTigris. But mine has larger hipbelt pockets, they are very good. And more space between shoulder straps. I removed sternum strap and fastened it above bottle holder. Worst thing is the torso length, very uncomfortable on longer hikes. My cost only about $60 so it didn't ruin me. Used it on some longer hikes last summer and autumn but will not use it again.
I've measured other high end packs. They also had 3 to 4 inch neck space. There are other people on YT who like this pack. Those are not TINY hip belt pockets. I'm not sure if you have an agenda because it's from China or what. But then I love my river country tent you gave a crappy review. Little effort to spray and seam seal and wala good tent for a excellent price.
I just watched your review and was surprised by how negative your review. Firstly I have been hiking since the 70's and owned a variety of bags. This is my first Ultralight. I bought this bag because it is an excellent all-rounder and extremely well priced. I am 174cm, over 100kg, (5'9") and it both fits perfect and I can adjust it up and down enough with the straps. Strap height adjustment at the top on other designs comes at a price of extra weight which I don't want. I can comfortably carry up to 14kg 31lbs. The padding is excellent, there is NO neck rubbing, waste belt works well, its just that the waste pocket are a little too small, can just get my iphone 7 and a snackbar in one. One option here is removal of the waste belt and then using an extra front bag with a waste belt (bum bag) for my camera, a drink bottle and some snacks. I personally have no problem with the small chest strap height adjustment, tho some might. Built quality is very high, so no faults at all. What did surprise me was how tall and narrow these modern bags are, compared to heavier backpacks from the 90's, mine were canvas nylon blend, and had a brain compartment, good bag but 2.3kg. I recommend paying extra for the dyneema version, just for extra security of toughness and rain proofness. I like the removable rain cover.Cost to NZ was $165NZ from Aliexpress, or $101 USD. Yes a drink bottle is hard to get at in the side mesh pocket without lowering the bag. I get around that with a bottle in the shoulder pocket, and one in the bum bag. Also, what is wrong with stopping to rest and drink every 40 mins or so? Overall I am very happy with the bag, think it was an investment in my outdoor life.
It's sad that people with minimal backpacking experience put shame to products just because it's "cheap" this pack is no different than a $400 hyperlite
i feel large mesh pockets are prone to rips on the trail from branches. sternum strap is the most important strap for comfortability. I hope NatureHike sees this video
Don't worry. I've just came back from a 2 night hike carrying 15kg in this pack. And it worked really good. Yes, I never had any other hiking backpack so cannot compare. My shoulders were sore, so were the shoulders of the rest of my group. I never use side pockets for water bottle. The sternum strap was straight and just where it should be. I guess that how my body is shaped. Anyway, next time I will try to swap backpacks with one of my fellow hikers. Perhaps then I will learn the suckness of my pack.
@@kilaraol it seems the main issue with this pack is it's sized for small window of torso sizes. Also while the materials seem good, the quality control might be lacking. As many have pointed out, the one in this review appears to have uneven straps. So, the pack maybe be totally fine for you. Lucky if so. Im hoping I'm lucky too as I bought it as well, yet to hike in it.
This is what separates this channel from most others no bs the product is actually tested not just delivered walked round a backyard and then reviewed like so many others. Keep them coming mate your appreciated for the work and effort you and Suzy (probably spelt that wrong I'm lousy on women's names) do to give out good advice stay healthy and safe.
I'd like to know when, where, and what gear was inside of the pack when this was "actually tested." I'd also like to know his torso length and height because this back looks too big for him. If the pack doesn't fit, it isn't going to be comfortable or sit right on the back, shoulders, and hips.
Right well he was incorrect about a 3 inch gap being wrong as all manufacturers have the same 3-4 inches. He hasn’t got a clue what he’s taking about and I wouldn’t take his advice
@@ThisIsArty The biggest problem with the pack is that it is not adjustable to people under 5'9" or so. They do make a smaller pack that is similar though, so why didn't he review that one?
Oh No ! I wish I would have seen this before I ordered one. I have the 40 liter . Haven’t used it yet but now I’m nervous about it . Thank you for your honest review . I might end up donating it to goodwill. Will try it at lease once though .
Sorry after spending 4 years in the army, nothing makes me loss more respect than aguring on wiegth, you fucking carry what you need, and if you can't, stay at home in your bed!
hey, just seen on amazon UK there is an upgraded version that has... Polymer fabric contains 6 % high molecular weight polyethylene fibres, which are 10 times stronger than steel, A robust rucksack that can carry up to 15kg. so same weight capacity but should hold up better?
I have this pack and love it! Not sure what all the whining was about in this video. This was more emotions than fact. Check out other reviews. Don't hesitate to buy this pack.
What you're saying about that bag isn't right. I have the 40l which is sufficient for my ultra-light long distance walking practice. I have broad shoulders and a big neck. On the 40l, the attachment point for the straps is quite low below the shoulders, and therefore the passage of the straps over the shoulders is quite wide. On the other hand, I paid €67 for this bag including postage. Given its low price, I did not hesitate to modify it. With the sewing machine, I removed a strip of foam in the middle of the back, creating ventilation. I cut some appendages and reduced the weight by 170g. I never walk with standard equipment. Even my high-end gear is modified to match my practice. To wear this bag comfortably, you have to start by properly tightening the chest strap, that makes all the difference. With the tent, the mattress, the duvet, the meals, the stove, the clothes, the lamp, the knife, the soap, the towel, the toothbrush, the sawyer and the container, I have 5kg on my back. Plus 1.5kg for alcohol from the stove, water, and food. With this weight, the 40l is no less comfortable than any lightweight bag. Ce que tu dis sur ce sac n'est pas juste. Je possède le 40l qui est suffisant pour ma pratique de marche au long cours ultra légère. J'ai les épaules larges et un gros cou. Sur le 40l, le point d'accroche des bretelles arrive assez bas sous les épaules, et donc le passage des bretelles sur les épaules est assez large. D'autre part, j'ai payé ce sac 67€ avec les frais de port. Vu son prix bas, je n'ai pas hésité à le modifier. Avec la machine à coudre, j'ai enlevé une bande de mousse au milieu du dos, créant ainsi une aération. J'ai coupé quelques appendices et réduit le poids de 170g. Je ne marche jamais avec du matériel standard. Même mon matériel haut de gamme est modifié pour correspondre à ma pratique. Pour porter ce sac confortablement, il faut commencer par serrer convenablement la ventrale, ça fait toute la différence. Avec la tente, le matelas, le duvet, la popotte, le réchaud, les vêtements, la lampe, le couteau, le savon, la serviette, la brosse à dent, le sawyer et le bidon, j'ai 5kg sur le dos. Plus 1,5kg pour l'alcool du réchaud, l'eau, et la nourriture. Avec ce poids, le 40l n'est pas moins confortable que n'importe quel sac léger.
So I’m looking for a budget pack for my brother who is joining me on a hiking trip next year. It looks pretty similar to my Gossamer gear gorilla 50. The gossamer also has about 3 inches between the straps and this has never been an issue for me, i have the chest strap at the lowest position (6ft/skinny/75kg). After a few trips I’ve found the best way to wear it is to have the hip belt fairly tight, with the shoulder straps and the chest strap fairly loose allowing the top of the bag to float around. To me this pack (other than being a little bit less premium) does not look all that much different from my gossamer gear. Does any body have any experience with both packs?
Damn Luke , i ordered the Dynema version last week, i guess i will need to mod it, remove the pocket on the straps so i can move the sternum strap and then unstitch the shoulder straps and move them an inch over, everything else seems fine though , i am glad you made this video even though i already ordered one, waiting on customs to release it. Things i like about it are the roll top as it enables me to store extra clothing at the top and also you can secure the buckles to the side also, so its not just a standard roll top. I like the cordage on the sides but will replace the cord with bungie cord and i knew this before ordering. The small pocket when i remove it and resow it and move it lower will be good for gps device. I like the kangaroo pocket and the single main compartment. The pocket above the kangaroo pocket i will put a water bladder in if i decide to take one but there is plenty of room in the side pockets. Once i mod my pack it will be ideal for me
Sounds like it's just too big for you? I have the same strap spacing on a Lowe Alpine bag and that 'neck space' is not an issue at all because the straps come from below your neck. Not sure how tall you are bit it looks like it's just too big for you.
Got one for my family member .It works great. Loved it and I would sometimes prefer it over my osprey pack . It is lightweight comfortable and carries a lot of weight. I mean look at how much hyperlite and zpacks are charging you for the same thing. I guess this pack just doesn’t fit you well or you haven’t adjusted right it to your body. I would recommend it to anyone who wants an affordable UL backpack . Go watch some others reviews of this pack. This is not a subjective review.
Wow. Amazing how Nature Hike took what could have been a good pack and totally screwed it up. Yes, as a woman, I would be pretty unhappy about the sternum strap. Thanks Luke. You probably saved people some money.
And this is why im glad you do honest reviews. Ive seen a few promote and show this is the "future of backpacks" glad your honest and not just selling out
great video its a pity the makers of the backpack didn't get the design right but your video might make them make some design changes keep up the great videos paul from the UK
I've walked TMB and Bohusladen with this pack. It's not bad for the money I've spend. If you're begginer and don't want to spend a lot of money this is a good option.
It's funny how there are counter reviews glorifying the pack and having "buy here" links in description lol. Luke is probably the only reviewer I trust.
I will absolutely recommend this pack to my in-laws.
Great idea ! Gift it to someone you NEVER want to hike with again :D haha
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hahaha Best comment of the Day!
- Luke
Send it to my ex fiance for her bday 😂😂
@@DarkMetaOFFICIAL excellent idea but add a small tear in the bottom for added extra revenge 😆
Bought this pack despite this awful review 😂 I love it, comfy as f**k and didn’t have a single problem that you’ve mentioned, in fact I’m a little confused as to what the hell you were reviewing..
I just watched Novice Wild campers review on this pack and he proved almost all of Luks points wrong. My impression is that its actually quite a decent pack worth the money (as its cheap)... Not everyone has the money to buy super expensive stuff and ultralight can be very expensive, so I actually would appreciate a decent budget pack which is why I am confused that he hates it so much. Makes me wonder if big channels as the outdoor gear review only push brands that send gear to them.....
Luke does his very best to analyze gear and be impartial. Unfortunately he often misunderstands products, their purpose and such. He also lets his emotions get in the way and make him biased , so if he doesn’t like something for some reason he will nitpick. Always find fault in things - it can be great as it exposes faults, but it can be overly done like it is here. He also heavily dissed the Naturehike Vik, which according to everyone else is a great tent. Maybe he’s got a trifle with the brand
Glad I watched the novice ‘s video before this one as well
same here
Luke is a clickbaiting clown.
It does seem like a lot of the complaints he has with the pack are because the pack doesn’t fit him well, and a few of the other complaints do seem to be nitpicking, having said that, I respect his opinion, but he should not be telling people not to buy it, it’s going to fit everyone differently and have features that appeal to other people. The only thing that I personally don’t like about the pack is that it doesn’t have an attachment point or pocket/pouch for a water bladder, everything else is fine from the other reviews I’ve seen
I did GR20 with this one and it wasn't as bad as you describe it... I bought one for 50€ and it was the best value for money I had on the trip.
Tough trail
This pack works for me. The shoulder strap pocket is useless and way too high but works well for holding a gopro or hiking umbrella. The hip pockets are small but they hold a phone just fine or snacks. I have had no issues with the straps rubbing my neck. The sternum strap works for me but it truly should be adjustable. The exterior mesh pocket is huge and works well to store your tent or camp shoes. It stretches out a lot! The side mesh pockets stretch enough to hold two water bottles each.
I dont think you were truly fair in your review as this is a great lightweight budget pack that is not nearly as horrible as you made it out to be.
"useless but works well" 😆
Love this pack. Have used and will continue to use on multiple trips. Fits great, but I am a normal, 6 ft 1 205 lb guy, rolling a lightweight load with no more than 4 days of gear. Not a single issue presented here has affected my experience with this pack in any way shape or form, and I gave it am honest, outstanding, review for the price.
If you are looking for a super high end backpack this isn't it. If you're looking for something sub-$100 that's lightweight this is an excellent pack to borrow from someone and give a shot for a weekend trip.
Best wishes.
Good. Glad it beez work for you.
Right! i bough this thing for like 50 bucks, and it's been phenomenal for what it is. I've used it for maybe 30 days so far..
It doesn't matter how well something is constructed if the design or engineering is crap.
Actually a 60L + 5L ….so that was wrong…. Then the way he cinches up the roll top … so that was wrong…. I can fit my iPhone in the hip pocket …. So that was wrong…. He never talked about the adjustable hip belt to lengthen the torso length… so that was wrong …. It definitely has its foibles for sure … it does not work with short torso lengths definitely …. But try getting a pack that weighs around 2lb for that money ! I don’t know why his was so uncomfortable … I’ve done a number of multi day trips with mine with no problem perhaps Luke didn’t have it adjusted properly or he had it overloaded ….
I have the dcf version of this pack, it's very similar to my HMG pack. Every trip I've taken this pack on, it's worked well for me. He's right about a couple things, like the hip belt pockets, they're tiny, you can fit bars or your car keys and that's about it. It's a one size fits all kinda thing, it doesn't give you sizes to choose from like other companies. I'd say it would be equivalent to a size, mens large. I'm 6'3 and it fits me quite well. I would change the size of the hip belt pockets, but it's by no means a deal breaker for me. Overall I'm glad I got it. If you're 6 foot or taller it's not a bad bag. If you're shorter than 6 foot, then frame size will be an issue. But if you're taller, it'll work fine. Normally his reviews are in point, but this one missd the mark. Only thing I can think of, is that he's not as tall as me, and the frame size is meant more so for taller people. The pack would have been more comfortable if he had the right sized pack.
Im 6"2, do you mean yours is the xpac version? Imlooking at the 45+5l one
@@akidddkidd I have the dynema version, not the xpac.
@@akidddkidd There is no Xpac version of this backpack. The 45+5L Xpac Ultra-Light is different, but it does have similar features. Note that, being an ultralight pack, the 45+5L has a top compression strap rather than dedicated load lifters.
I have the dyneema version of this pack. I carried 29 lbs comfortably over 75 mi in 4 days. One day I did 25 and a half miles it's 6,000 ft of elevation gain. I'm six foot one and I found it completely comfortable. I was able to stuff my whole tent and ground cover in the outside main pocket. The side straps are used to compress the top roll back you don't have to click it together at the top you can impress it down the sides by connecting. I like your reviews a lot Luke and trust them. However I'm happy I bought this pack before you reviewed it.
@@NoviceWildCamper I agree, I used this pack again this past weekend and it was comfortable. I am still yet to have any neck rubbing or any other issues Luke complained about.
@@NoviceWildCamper I will follow your channels when I get home from work today and look for your review thank you
And this is why no-one should ever make their purchasing decisions based on what a single influencer says.
The pack has some pretty good reviews on Amazon. There other YTer vids where they like it a lot.
Dear reader; always research across multiple platforms & don't be a sheep to one person's opinions, no matter how much you may respect them.
No-one is right about everything.
Yes he had the top wrong. There are side straps that connect to the top to pull the sides down and back and then you can even stack something on top and strap it down with the draw strings.
luke, the compression strap that you put across the front is actually meant for securing the buckles of the roll top, instead of clickin those together ;)
I've seen other reviewers doing the same thing. But not like it came with instructions, at least mine didn't.
@@briangivens4206 This is shown in almost every photo that is supplied at the point of sale. It is also a feature on many ultralight folding top packs.
Worst to First?
Maybe the company can take all those great features, materials, and quality, make some change and end up with a great pack.
I've hiked a couple of hundred miles with this pack. I didn't find it rubbed on my neck at all (I'm 6" and around a 16 inch neck) whilst wearing a t-shirt but did find the torso length really weird - it is somewhat adjustable but even for me I think it was a little long. The shoulder straps are attached at the wrong height I think, so they didn't shape all that well for me. I agree with the point that it is difficult to see what body type this is ideally suited for - someone tall and skinny maybe? Odd choice considering Naturehike's main market is China domestic plus the rest of SE Asia.
However it was comfortable with a 7kg BW / 13 Kg total and I've done some pretty big days with it. The hip belt pockets are not as bad as made out here I don't think. All in all for the $70 it cost on sale I think its excellent value. I intend to keep using mine in winter and going for something smaller in summer.
I got mine today, and at 6'2" & 180 this fits me just fine. It's got a nice little aluminium frame for rigidity, there's plenty of padding in the back, the hip belt's fine, and the sternum strap is where I'd expect it to be. I'm packing a 16 pound pack for a 2 week / 300 mile hike and it seems perfectly fit for purpose. Seems you need to be over 6 foot to be happy with this backpack. Also the strap-closure for the top isn't as demonstrated in this video, it's a lot more secure if done correctly.
I'd recommend this to my ex but she doesn't deserve YKK zippers.
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Another CON the right shoulder strap is fitted 1/2” 12mm higher than the left hand strap.
Strength and Honour
I saw that.
I saw that!
Good point. Noticed that too.
This list at 12:35 is funny. I can imagine how this meeting went. What can we think off how to use a backpack. You can also use it to crawl home on your knees while being drunk coming from the bar. Good point. You can put in a book, a duck, a squirrel, a fish but not a tuna, a table leg, flowers, a coconut, firewood, veggies at the supermarket, beer (sold separately) or body parts after you murdered someone, maybe not all of it at once depending on the age. Use it on a bus, in a train, on a boat or floating on one of them blow up unicorns. It's useful when a comet hits the earth cause maybe you are not hiking where it strikes but you are back at the shop to buy another pack that's good.(Company meeting mumbling...guys what else can we think off)
And the disaster prevention is funny. Not buying this pack prevents the biggest disaster.
I'm quite sure the shoulder straps are even. Seems like he just did a very bad job at adjusting the load lifters. Look closely at 6:52. It's almost as he desperately wants this pack to look bad...
Hi! Recommend watching the Novice wild campers review. He provides good information and shows how the backpack should actually be used.
I own this pack and like it. Have done long hikes and no complaints. I put a carbiner on the front for a water bottle and tuck it under the sternum strap. Use it a lot for biking with tools, fiahing gear, and lunch.
Actually its less $90.. bought mine for 60.. actually is a really good bag for its price..
I don't know this guy talking about.. but its a really good bag to buy..
The "three inches apart" design isn't all that uncommon. The difference is that most angle them outward enough to compensate. My GoLite is similar behind my neck, but the 20-30 degree angle puts it around 7 or 8 inches on the shoulders.
This review seems odd. I thought it was normal at first, but then you started complaining about every single detail of the pack... I only managed to watch till the "belt pocket part not being big enough to carry a phone" when showing a quite good sized pocket that would hold any regular phone, I really don't know if you are some of those people that use an ipad as a phone LOL., also the shoulder straps being "too close" is very over the board, I've seen backpacks with even less space between them not presenting problems to anyone, and here suddenly it's a big deal? What are you 4ft as 8ft to find this troubling?
All in all this seems as an unfair review that is seeking for points to nitpick..
It looks like someone looked at some UL packs and decided to just make one based on a picture w/out ever considering any specifics. To of course get into the UL pack market. Most UL hikers aren't using a pack that large anyway...
this is the case i think for all of the products they brand/sell!
Always love how thorough you are Luke. It's like they stopped caring halfway through the design 😂 It could be s great pack if they fix it.
I really appreciate you taking the time to test and tell us about the gear....really appreciate you
I think the main problem with this pack is that it's not ajustable for back length. This means that a shorter guy (no offence intended, i'm just 1m79 myself) will not get it to fit right, which leads to the comments about the gap width with the shoulder straps, and sternum strap etc. Honestly, none of my packs have a wider width between the straps, and that's not a problem if the pack is the right size for you and the straps aren't located at your nape. The only times i've found it to be a problem, is with packs which are just too big for me.
If the shoulder straps are digging into your shoulders or neck, then you haven't fit the pack correctly (if it's adjustable), or it's just the wrong size. The shoulder straps shouldn't be carrying the weight, but instead should just be holding a hiking pack to your back. The waist belt is what carries the weight. None of my packs even have the shoulder straps touching the top of my shoulders when adjusted well with the load lifters.
Also, you get what you pay for. At the pricepoint, it's a good pack, AS LONG as it's the right size for you. That's why most packs have adjustable backs, or come in multiple sizes. Which is definitly something naturehike should look into.
Not to say there aren't problems (no sleeve for a hydration system seems weird for a pack with ports for it, but i do think you were a bit too harsh in your review due to the reasons mentioned above, which just point to you using the wrong size pack for your body type.
Nice to know how a backpack is supposed to work letting people know what it is to look for in a backpack. I've never known a backpack side-pocket to be handy; I would never use a backpack to store my cell phone. I usually use a side-pack for maps, cell phone, compass, water/electrolyte drink.
I’ve got few bits of naturehike stuff, a mongar 2 tent, some carbon trekking poles. Some merino socks. A great down sleeping bag.
I’ve been really pleased with the design and quality of all pieces. I guess this pack was way off the mark.
For packs & critical comfort I would always go with a big company like osprey or alike.
I used the reguler type not this rolltop type, and it also feels horrible.
It honestly looks like they looked at the ULA OHM and copied it without buying it. It makes sense, ULA makes some of the best packs I’ve ever owned.
I should have read the comments before posting. I agree completely.
The sternum strap is crooked and so are the shoulder straps where they attach at the top of the pack. Off by about half an inch.
noticed that also
@@Bigbacon I also thought I was 'seeing things' so I'm glad you pointed it out too.
What kind of backpack do you have? Do you use some magic backpack that tells you to be this nitpicky?
I have this pack but don't have as many issues with it. But I also would only recommend it to guys with long torsos. For me reaching back for water bottles is the easiest out of all the packs I own. I find the foam on the back doesn't really touch my back so it's quite breezy. The sternum strap is just high enough for me. But yeah, the hip pockets are too small and the shoulder straps aren't well designed. I plan on adding some soft foam on the shoulder straps
And that’s why I love this channel…. Great advice, agenda free. SaH
@@stoicodysseys6352 There is a difference between luke giving airtime to co's who give him stuff and stuff he buys. He has crapped on plenty of free stuff given to him.
@@stoicodysseys6352 He's crapped on free stuff he was given plenty of times. Sure he may be a little biased like any person, but he isn't pushing any agendas and isn't in bed with any companies.
Personally I don't like it when reviewers start talking about a subject in this case the chest strap four times each time just saying you'll talk about it in just a second you could have finished the sentence and your points about the chest strap in the time you took to say you talk about it in just a second four times.
All that to say the shoulder straps are too close and the sternum strap is a little low.
Yes I think I’ll stick to my old faithful Alice pack.
Thanks for all the great information,awesome channel keep up the great work .
I have this exact pack. It comes with the sternum strap. The 40 doesn’t and it’s says that in the website. That’s why some people don’t get them. It’s not terrible. There are cons but a lot of pros as well. My only issue is with the harness system as well. But I’ve been able to carry 25-28 lbs in it
Just checked my kestrel 48 and its only a 3" gap on the harness as well, I have seen a other comments saying there back packs were similar. Did you check other packs for the gap width?
But to be fair it was a nice long review and you def don't like it :)
Honestly, about midway through the video I lost interest due to so many cons. Who would buy that junk? Great information though, and that is why keep coming back. 👍💖
I got the Dynema version of this pack because of the features and great price. Also had seen some reviews that were mostly positive, though some did point out the issue with the sizing not being right for everyone. Ive yet to do a hike in it, so can't speak to the comfort issues yet. I did a max weight packout test and it seemed ok, no issue with the straps on my neck anyway. The load lifters work at first but seem to slip, at least with the weight I had in. I didnt notice a major issue with the sternum strap but again I didnt hike in it yet. The build quality seems very good for $100AUD. Though I notice yours seems to have uneven straps? I even noticed the outward bend in the straps which presumably is supposed to be for your neck is too low, near you chest. Could be why you had neck issues. Hopefully the comfort for me is "good enough" even though I'm only 5'7". If not, I'll see if any of my taller mates want it, might be great for them. We don't have a lot of affordable options in Australia, so it has a lot of initial appeal.
I think a good edition to your reviews would be recommending alternative packs in the same price range or with similar features. Gives you an excuse to link your other reviews too 🤣
You also mentioned it's close on your back near the top? I think mine wasn't like that. Id have to try it again to check. But that could be another sign of your straps being incorrectly stitched / positioned.
It seems like you are wearing the pack a bit to high up on your back?
If you lower it a inch or two, it would probably fit better, giving more space for the neck (due ti how the straps are made) and the cheststrap would be higher up.
Yep agreed, there are bends in the straps for it. It's possible it's the wrong size for him or the straps were incorrectly stitched or he's just wearing it too tight and high? Dunno.
Why don’t you tell us how you really feel about this pack Luke 😂😂
Come on Luck stop sitting on the fence 😂😂
Maybe words don't cover his feelings or the words haven't been invented yet😉. Besides its a family entertaining informative video and there could be kids watching
Lol
At 11:32 : Dimensions of an Alien HAHAHA I was eating cherries while watching and I had to spit it out before choking from laughing :D Good one, Luke!
It's a really good review, and I can confirm all that: it's really lightweight, has a durable materials, nice big pocket... and that's it. I'm 175 cm (5'9"), and it's way too long for my torso. If you're not at least 182+cm (6'), don't buy it, it will ruin your trip.
Body strap is too low to help you carry your weight.
No place for water bladder.
If Naturehike could change these I would definitely buy this pack.
I think someone did wee wee in Luke’s corn flakes or is it raisin brand! This pack ain’t near as bad as he claims, though not perfect, but for the price it is fine. I have humped so many packs over my life time both in my 20 years in the Marine Corps and after I retired 20 years ago. If you look at Luke’s gear, he is a bit spoiled although I do enjoy watching his videos, but sometimes he goes high and to the right every now and then. He must make some good money,because I could never afford a lot of the gear he carries around in his videos. Plus he can be a bit of a poser, coming across as the Aw Shucks kinda dude😂
Wow!!!! It looks like a great pack.... but thank you very much for every review you do on all types of gear.... I'm here to say thank you and as I'm sure I'm not alone in saying I look to you for alot of gear I'm either going to buy looking to buy or most importantly not going to buy!!!! Your a great man.....God bless
This video made me do a double take. I don't think any of my packs have the straps spaced out over 3". Eyeballing a few they seem to be closer together. I'd guess the issue is the angle at which they are attached to the pack and the position of the attachment. Definitely seems like they have something to learn about making packs. My old CloudUp 2 is still going strong though.
I have the 40+5 and I really like it. It’s so comfy. I’m 5’8 and after a 15 mile hike I had no problems.
My 14yr old daughter used it on her DOE and loved it too! She did take the water bottle carrier off but she had no complaints all. I’d recommend it to anyone!!!!
I have the 40+10 naturehike pack and mine did not come with the sternum strap and the shoulder pocket is larger and removable on mine, I find the pack comfortable
Like, have you thought about instituting a ‘Gear of Shame’ ?
Thanks for an honest review I had a Freind that brought a backpack on ebay I'm not sure if it's the exact same one mind but he had almost the same issues and he is 6'3 like me so I recommended the Snugpack 100 litre Bergen to him as I've tried and tested that over 30 times now and it is the buisnes with a 70 litre centre and 2 15 litre rocket packs that are detachable via zips and can be attached to a yolk for a 30 litre day pack. You don't get a rain cover included in the purchase. I however have the patrol poncho that keeps me and the bergen dry it would of been nice to of included the rain cover for but that is an extra purchase on top and I already had the poncho so it was unessasary.
I respect the non bias opinion you give, it really does matter. I agree with your review. I do a lot of camping and that bag is only useful for spare items kept in a vehicle.
My first impression, seeing this on you is that the shoulder straps are sewn on square at the top and doesn't match the natural slope of your shoulders. That, combined with the narrow spacing is the death knell for it...comfort wise. It looks dumb with the inside edges resting on your shoulders and the outside edges floating in space..lol kinda like and 80's big hair rock band outfit 😏
I was looking at ordering this pack. Thanks Luke. Always keeping us informed.
@@stoicodysseys6352 You're just a hater at this point.
This guy loves heavy weight military gear. He buys cheap stuff on purpose so he can rip them apart as that's what draws most people to his reviews. BTW, I just measured my 3 Osprey Packs and they average around 3.5" at the neck.
Looking at some of the comments, some people really like this product and love using it, although the cons made in this review should be considered when looking to buy a new backpack, sometimes if you like something, your just going to like it 😊
I have this pack and use it all the time and I think it’s fantastic I have use it on loads of 100+ mile hikes and never had a problem with it just goes to show try before you buy everyone is different
I can't wait to NOT get this pack!
I'm new here, was recommended by UA-cam because I've been watching TA outdoors. I'm enjoying your content but you have so much to go through! I'd love it if you could do some overview type videos where you go through your top 5 or top 10 or best for each price range. Just a quick minute on a couple of products and links to these full review type videos, especially for tents. I think it would be good for you as well because everyone knows how much UA-cam loves top 10 vids!
Thank you for your honesty. ---- I reviewed the packs tested and commented on and noticed no North Face bags. Is there something non-military about them you don't care for? I'd really like to hear your opinion on the Terra 50. It's simple, minimal adjustments, hated and loved. Looks like a solid tough pack.
Really, I looked at it and thought it was definitely worth buying. Glad I watched this video, but truth is I have a backpack that is serviceable and I don't hike enough to get anything else.
This is NatureHike’s take (a poor take) on the fabulous Gossamer Gear Mariposa. I find it’s impossible to access my water bottle in all backpacks. My main con with respect to the Mariposa pack is that it’s extremely difficult to get my large gear into the main internal pocket because it collapses in on itself. I appreciate its light weight (2 lbs), but I would like a detachable brain option and a bottom accessible pocket.
the pack is too big for you (torso is too long). I believe this is the main reason why shoulder straps dig in the neck
I have a very similar backpack from OneTigris. But mine has larger hipbelt pockets, they are very good. And more space between shoulder straps. I removed sternum strap and fastened it above bottle holder.
Worst thing is the torso length, very uncomfortable on longer hikes.
My cost only about $60 so it didn't ruin me. Used it on some longer hikes last summer and autumn but will not use it again.
I've measured other high end packs. They also had 3 to 4 inch neck space. There are other people on YT who like this pack. Those are not TINY hip belt pockets. I'm not sure if you have an agenda because it's from China or what. But then I love my river country tent you gave a crappy review. Little effort to spray and seam seal and wala good tent for a excellent price.
I just watched your review and was surprised by how negative your review. Firstly I have been hiking since the 70's and owned a variety of bags. This is my first Ultralight.
I bought this bag because it is an excellent all-rounder and extremely well priced. I am 174cm, over 100kg, (5'9") and it both fits perfect and I can adjust it up and down enough with the straps. Strap height adjustment at the top on other designs comes at a price of extra weight which I don't want. I can comfortably carry up to 14kg 31lbs. The padding is excellent, there is NO neck rubbing, waste belt works well, its just that the waste pocket are a little too small, can just get my iphone 7 and a snackbar in one. One option here is removal of the waste belt and then using an extra front bag with a waste belt (bum bag) for my camera, a drink bottle and some snacks. I personally have no problem with the small chest strap height adjustment, tho some might. Built quality is very high, so no faults at all. What did surprise me was how tall and narrow these modern bags are, compared to heavier backpacks from the 90's, mine were canvas nylon blend, and had a brain compartment, good bag but 2.3kg. I recommend paying extra for the dyneema version, just for extra security of toughness and rain proofness. I like the removable rain cover.Cost to NZ was $165NZ from Aliexpress, or $101 USD.
Yes a drink bottle is hard to get at in the side mesh pocket without lowering the bag. I get around that with a bottle in the shoulder pocket, and one in the bum bag. Also, what is wrong with stopping to rest and drink every 40 mins or so? Overall I am very happy with the bag, think it was an investment in my outdoor life.
It's sad that people with minimal backpacking experience put shame to products just because it's "cheap" this pack is no different than a $400 hyperlite
I stumbled upon this. Thank you. I was debating between a durstin kakwa 55L And the Nature hike as they appeared very similar.
i feel large mesh pockets are prone to rips on the trail from branches. sternum strap is the most important strap for comfortability. I hope NatureHike sees this video
Thanks for your honesty. That will help a lot of people not get stuck with a bad pack.
Love watching all your videos! I’m so ticked off I just bought this pack 3 weeks ago. I guess I have a pack to let a buddy use!
Or send it back for a refund
Don't worry. I've just came back from a 2 night hike carrying 15kg in this pack. And it worked really good. Yes, I never had any other hiking backpack so cannot compare. My shoulders were sore, so were the shoulders of the rest of my group. I never use side pockets for water bottle. The sternum strap was straight and just where it should be. I guess that how my body is shaped. Anyway, next time I will try to swap backpacks with one of my fellow hikers. Perhaps then I will learn the suckness of my pack.
@@kilaraol it seems the main issue with this pack is it's sized for small window of torso sizes. Also while the materials seem good, the quality control might be lacking. As many have pointed out, the one in this review appears to have uneven straps. So, the pack maybe be totally fine for you. Lucky if so. Im hoping I'm lucky too as I bought it as well, yet to hike in it.
Thanks Luke brilliant review keep up the great videos and stay safe
This is what separates this channel from most others no bs the product is actually tested not just delivered walked round a backyard and then reviewed like so many others. Keep them coming mate your appreciated for the work and effort you and Suzy (probably spelt that wrong I'm lousy on women's names) do to give out good advice stay healthy and safe.
I'd like to know when, where, and what gear was inside of the pack when this was "actually tested." I'd also like to know his torso length and height because this back looks too big for him. If the pack doesn't fit, it isn't going to be comfortable or sit right on the back, shoulders, and hips.
Right well he was incorrect about a 3 inch gap being wrong as all manufacturers have the same 3-4 inches. He hasn’t got a clue what he’s taking about and I wouldn’t take his advice
@@Too-Oddhe is quite short if i remember correctly sk that's probably why he dislikes this pack so much when others really like it.
@@ThisIsArty The biggest problem with the pack is that it is not adjustable to people under 5'9" or so. They do make a smaller pack that is similar though, so why didn't he review that one?
I'm not sure how much testing is done beyond just walking round a backyard woods and then reviewed like so many others.
Oh No ! I wish I would have seen this before I ordered one. I have the 40 liter . Haven’t used it yet but now I’m nervous about it . Thank you for your honest review . I might end up donating it to goodwill. Will try it at lease once though .
Sorry after spending 4 years in the army, nothing makes me loss more respect than aguring on wiegth, you fucking carry what you need, and if you can't, stay at home in your bed!
hey, just seen on amazon UK there is an upgraded version that has... Polymer fabric contains 6 % high molecular weight polyethylene fibres, which are 10 times stronger than steel, A robust rucksack that can carry up to 15kg. so same weight capacity but should hold up better?
Thanks a lot. Please do a review of Molle II Medium Rucksack.
Yes, I would like that as well! I need a solution to the torso adjustment on that pack.
@@MrScreaney there are few videos about its adjustment, let me check, will share the link.
@@danielmitchell5814 Thanks Daniel. I appreciate it.
@@MrScreaney This is detailed assembly video of Molle II Medium ua-cam.com/video/oa1zu7VvfDU/v-deo.html
Is this the same pack as the 60+5? Ash O'Brian Outdoors, loves hers. She bought it on Aliexpress and is from Northern Ireland.
Love their tents! A shame the backpacks don’t measure up
That's a bummer. I picked up thier down sleeping bag and it's awesome so hopefully they take your suggestions with the pack.
I have this pack and love it! Not sure what all the whining was about in this video. This was more emotions than fact. Check out other reviews. Don't hesitate to buy this pack.
What you're saying about that bag isn't right. I have the 40l which is sufficient for my ultra-light long distance walking practice. I have broad shoulders and a big neck. On the 40l, the attachment point for the straps is quite low below the shoulders, and therefore the passage of the straps over the shoulders is quite wide. On the other hand, I paid €67 for this bag including postage. Given its low price, I did not hesitate to modify it. With the sewing machine, I removed a strip of foam in the middle of the back, creating ventilation. I cut some appendages and reduced the weight by 170g. I never walk with standard equipment. Even my high-end gear is modified to match my practice. To wear this bag comfortably, you have to start by properly tightening the chest strap, that makes all the difference. With the tent, the mattress, the duvet, the meals, the stove, the clothes, the lamp, the knife, the soap, the towel, the toothbrush, the sawyer and the container, I have 5kg on my back. Plus 1.5kg for alcohol from the stove, water, and food. With this weight, the 40l is no less comfortable than any lightweight bag.
Ce que tu dis sur ce sac n'est pas juste. Je possède le 40l qui est suffisant pour ma pratique de marche au long cours ultra légère. J'ai les épaules larges et un gros cou. Sur le 40l, le point d'accroche des bretelles arrive assez bas sous les épaules, et donc le passage des bretelles sur les épaules est assez large. D'autre part, j'ai payé ce sac 67€ avec les frais de port. Vu son prix bas, je n'ai pas hésité à le modifier. Avec la machine à coudre, j'ai enlevé une bande de mousse au milieu du dos, créant ainsi une aération. J'ai coupé quelques appendices et réduit le poids de 170g. Je ne marche jamais avec du matériel standard. Même mon matériel haut de gamme est modifié pour correspondre à ma pratique. Pour porter ce sac confortablement, il faut commencer par serrer convenablement la ventrale, ça fait toute la différence. Avec la tente, le matelas, le duvet, la popotte, le réchaud, les vêtements, la lampe, le couteau, le savon, la serviette, la brosse à dent, le sawyer et le bidon, j'ai 5kg sur le dos. Plus 1,5kg pour l'alcool du réchaud, l'eau, et la nourriture. Avec ce poids, le 40l n'est pas moins confortable que n'importe quel sac léger.
So I’m looking for a budget pack for my brother who is joining me on a hiking trip next year. It looks pretty similar to my Gossamer gear gorilla 50. The gossamer also has about 3 inches between the straps and this has never been an issue for me, i have the chest strap at the lowest position (6ft/skinny/75kg). After a few trips I’ve found the best way to wear it is to have the hip belt fairly tight, with the shoulder straps and the chest strap fairly loose allowing the top of the bag to float around. To me this pack (other than being a little bit less premium) does not look all that much different from my gossamer gear. Does any body have any experience with both packs?
Awesome review!! This one was just as bad as the Amazon Basic backpack lol 😆.
Not quite. Luke didn't use it for target practice.
Best reviews on UA-cam, thank you sir!
Damn Luke , i ordered the Dynema version last week, i guess i will need to mod it, remove the pocket on the straps so i can move the sternum strap and then unstitch the shoulder straps and move them an inch over, everything else seems fine though , i am glad you made this video even though i already ordered one, waiting on customs to release it.
Things i like about it are the roll top as it enables me to store extra clothing at the top and also you can secure the buckles to the side also, so its not just a standard roll top. I like the cordage on the sides but will replace the cord with bungie cord and i knew this before ordering. The small pocket when i remove it and resow it and move it lower will be good for gps device. I like the kangaroo pocket and
the single main compartment. The pocket above the kangaroo pocket i will put a water bladder in if i decide to take one but there is plenty of room in the side pockets. Once i mod my pack it will be ideal for me
Wow. Thats sone effort... Id just send it back haha.
@@johnventers5128 when i say i will mod it , i literally mean that i will get a local machinist to do it for me so not really a problem
@@SynthFreaq true , its working out perfect for me , no problems so no modding needed
Sounds like it's just too big for you? I have the same strap spacing on a Lowe Alpine bag and that 'neck space' is not an issue at all because the straps come from below your neck. Not sure how tall you are bit it looks like it's just too big for you.
Got one for my family member .It works great. Loved it and I would sometimes prefer it over my osprey pack . It is lightweight comfortable and carries a lot of weight. I mean look at how much hyperlite and zpacks are charging you for the same thing. I guess this pack just doesn’t fit you well or you haven’t adjusted right it to your body. I would recommend it to anyone who wants an affordable UL backpack . Go watch some others reviews of this pack. This is not a subjective review.
Funny how most channels refuse to do a negative review but here Luke just lets it rip, no punches pulled.
I’ve got one and I love it! Different strokes for different folks as they say………..
Same here, I love it as well. Used it for to years now and it works great for me. It doesn’t work for my wife though because of the sternum strap.
I took a look at my Osprey and Mammut backpacks, the space between the straps are even smaller than this one being 2.5" and 2"
Wow. Amazing how Nature Hike took what could have been a good pack and totally screwed it up. Yes, as a woman, I would be pretty unhappy about the sternum strap. Thanks Luke. You probably saved people some money.
Hyperlite Mountain Gear : Ultralight backpack 3400 Southwest also 3.5 inches in between the shoulder harness.
I am seriously thinking of buying this pack, it looks just what I need. Thank you for the review.
i have bought it , and cheecked the reviews they are all great reviews!
For day hikes I use an Osprey Stratos 24 and for backpacking a Granite Gear Crown 2-60. I haven’t found any reason to switch them out yet.
And this is why im glad you do honest reviews. Ive seen a few promote and show this is the "future of backpacks" glad your honest and not just selling out
great video its a pity the makers of the backpack didn't get the design right but your video might make them make some design changes keep up the great videos paul from the UK
I've walked TMB and Bohusladen with this pack. It's not bad for the money I've spend. If you're begginer and don't want to spend a lot of money this is a good option.
7:42 What is the chest pack that you are wearing?
i like your straight forward attitude and style. also i just want to say that this hair cut suits you better than shorter hair.
It's funny how there are counter reviews glorifying the pack and having "buy here" links in description lol. Luke is probably the only reviewer I trust.
This is alien technology, we recovered it from a crashed space ship :p