I picked up a cheap camera and wireless lapel mic to try and figure out something for when I hit the range. Let me know what y'all think about it. I think the camera is gonna work out ok once I bump it up to 4k outdoors especially to get target angles but I'm not completely happy with the mic just yet. I think I have the mic clipped a little too close to my face so when my voice volume goes up, its distorting a little. I also noticed when I went to edit this that there are a couple times when I was getting interference, but I realized afterwards that I can change the frequency. After I did that, I didn't have the issue in a few test videos. Hopefully I can get it tweaked to where I'm happy enough with it because this wireless mic will come in handy on the range for sure. Let me know what y'all think and any tips you have. 👍
I did a long term expirament, put silica gel packs with moisture indicators on them like what you have, in a few metal and plastic ammo cans, and let them sit for a year. When i opened them, all the gel packs in the metal cans still showed blue like they had just been opened. The ones in the plastic cans had all turned pink. The cans sat in my closet, didn't get tossed around at all. Good info in this video, have to protect those long term investments!
@@JustMe-999a same here, no need to store ammo in cans unless it's humid or too dry. my oldddd surplus ammo from before I was born all shoot fine. I don't expose them to anything nor anything damaging.
I was a security inspector at an Army depot. We had earth covered magazine/bunkers full of ordnance that had no electricity installed. There were a number with pre-positioned pack out loads for deployments. These were small arms in original crates in original cans with the lead and wire seals in place. The data on the inventory documentation showed most of the ammunition was more than 10 years in the igloo. No heating, no a/c, no humidity control. I believe in “MIL-STANDARD” ammo cans.
I'm making this comment about 4 minutes into the video and my experience has been 100% in agreement. I started out using some plastic ammo cans, but eventually replaced them all with metal. Good advice.
You are absolutely right. I had only these 50 cal plastic ones and one time I put something like 17 or 18 boxes of 44 Mag in them. I had it on a high shelf. I went to lift it off by the handle and then handle broke off, the plastic ammo tin fell on the ground about 5 feet drop and the lid broke open on one side and a couple of boxes of ammo fell out. I would never trust these plastic ones again with any significant amount of weight. The only reason why I would prefer plastic is because they are lockable whereas the metal ones are not
The metal cans are lockable. Run a typical gun lock that comes with every new gun through the hole in the latch and the front handle. Bazinga, its looked.
The surplus mil spec ones are easier to lock. The knock offs at rural king or tractor supply only have a little hole you have to use a cable. Whereas the surplus can use a master lock.
I have 2 steel ammo cans that I have had for 50 years, dad got them for me to store my G.I. Joe stuff in back in the late 60's and they still seal tight. and used for ammo now
Thanks to this video I just ordered 3 of these 50cal metal cans out the door for $40 shipped to my door in 2 days 3-17-22 wish I could've ordered more. Thank you for the advice. I'm new and trying to learn everything on my own(not by choice) so I appreciate any help I can get. I'm about to buy more ammo and just ask for forgiveness from the wife.
I would occasionally pick up the small plastic ones for 3 bucks a piece the large ones for 6 bucks. At the time the metal ones were A) hard to find, and B) fifteen to twenty five bucks each depending on condition. I know, the metal ones can be put underwater, so it is a proven better seal, but for what I've done with 16 ammo cans it would have cost me three to four times as much, and I haven't had problems with the plastic ones. Been doing it for years. No problems with corrosion on shotshells, rust on reloading dies, of issues with primers.
I like how the metal 50 cal cans stack on each other. Ive got some stacked four high in my basement. Those things are heavy as hell but theres no worry about them warping and falling over .
late to the party on this one, but I use plastic ammo cans for things like first aid supplies that are also sealed in their own containers inside the ammo can. they're great for keeping things together and organized. not so great at long term ammo storage. Like you I also store used brass in them, sealed black powder supplies etc. I ended up getting several of the plastic cans years ago from someone who didn't want them. I think of them like knock off tupperware. lol
Nice video! You're 100% correct about the silicone on the rubber seals. I use Hornadys Unique case lube on all my ammo cans. It also works on leather! My vote is more .223/5.56 & 10mm videos- keep'em comin.
I agree metal over plastic, the militaries around the world use metal for a reason. I've been useing some for some of my ammo, but slowly adding more cans to keep my stuff safe. I've got a lot of loose ammo in various calibers, and I reload alot. I figure I should load more of it vs keeping components.
@@ToolsandTargets I've got Dillon 1050, so it makes no sense to just have a pile of parts. I'll be converting the components into readi use for the calibers I use
Under IDEAL conditions, ammo can sit on a shelf without being an ammo can it be good for decades But aren't we preppers? Aren't we preparing for circumstances that are NOT IDEAL? How many people live in apartments with sprinkler systems, every single house has pipes that can break, basements that can flood, or living areas that have flood risks ect. THAT is what ammo cans are for Protecting your onvestments when life tosses you curve balls ..
I bought a plastic cam for my first one, accidentally dropped it off of the tailgate of my stock, not jacked up, F150 pick up truck a week after I got it with maybe 100 rounds in in the thing and the top busted right off. The hinges we just absolute junk. Threw it away and have bought metal cans since. I rest well knowing that if we start getting rained on, my can will keep my ammo dry…as long as I remember to close the damn things.
lol that's how I store my ammo to. lol. I use Lowes buckets though. I've been using 5 gal buckets with lids for years. haven't had a single problem at all.
Not to burst anyone’s bubbles … but all the cans on that table are made in China. Metal and plastic. The only US made cans still available comes through surplus and companies specializing in getting (used) product from mil.
@@ToolsandTargets … 😊 I’ve seen a couple of side by side comparisons of Sino vs US steel cans, and in general and on the surface they are similar. BUT, not the same. The US steel strength is stronger … therefore less flex and therefore better water and moisture sealed. The US ones are to US mil spec. The sino products claim to be but are not. Besides … support US workers and Made in the USA brother. 👍🏻 Anything sino benefits the CCP. If funds allows in the future, how about getting US made products and test those against each other … incl plastics? Just a thought …
Plastic cans are for organization, not for long term storage. I have plenty of both! I've found the 30 cal cans are more practical, the 50s don't fit right in my cabinets or my safe.
I agree that the metal cans are better than the plastic cans. I do think the plastic ones have a use though. I just picked up a set of the plastic ones for my reloading components. One holds my brass, one holds my primers, one holds my projectiles. My 4000 primers are in those vacuum seal bags with a pack of desiccant pack.
New gun owner and glad I came across your channel. Starting to get into bulk ammo storage and this really helped me. Camera & Mike quality is good. Liked & Subbed! 👊🏾
About 6 or 7 years ago a guy here on YT, did a 1 year experiment. He filled a plastic and metal ammo can with boxes of ammo. He then submerged them in a pond for an entire year. He pulled them out and opened them up and the metal can was perfect no water was able to get into the can. The seal was intact but the plastic can was soaked, all the ammo was wet and the seal was broken in a couple of places.
Steel ammo boxes are the best in my opinion Not just for ammo either First aid supplies Tools Optics Documents and currency's I even use a 16 inch tall 50 can for my scopes and rings along with a tool kit The one thing I would not store in a ammo can is food Thanks for the videos And the great info You have a good one brother Just saying
Good for camera gear too. Pretty much anything you want to protect. I remember when those cans were five bucks each, and thinking wow, how can they charge so much for them! Now I wish I'd bought more than the few I have. They're great for all sorts of stuff, made with MUCH better quality than "civilian" toolboxes etc.
If I'm going to shoot the ammo within a year, I just throw the factory boxes in a plastic can for easy carrying to the range. For long term storage, I vacuum seal them with desiccant packs in the bag and place them in a large plastic box with some additional 'free floating' desiccant packs in the bottom of it. They been perfectly fine for years now.
I rarely buy the same ammo because my supplier has different manufacturers. So I like to keep my ammo in it's original boxes. Also to remind me of the ballistics. I also use a dymo label maker to indicate what ammo I have in each magazine. I also inventory my ammo by manufacturer, grain, bullet type, whether or not it's +P, and the amount. I'd like to have 1000 rds of each caliber, but I have a long way to go to achieve that goal.
The only "Plastic" ammo cans I would really trust with anything substantial are those big, beefy Pelican ones made of high-impact polymer. But considering they're expensive as hell and not efficient space-wise (they're weirdly-shaped), they're only really good for specific things. Durable as hell though, and they come with little pressure equalization valves. They do seal very well at least.
While I have metal 50 cal ammo cans. I also have quite a few MTM 50 cal Zombie cans. They are not flimsy plastic. I like how they stack. I was also getting them on clearance every year from a hardware store. I have a couple cheap flimsy plastic cans I use as range cans. I even have four 25mm ammo cans for the Bushmaster cannon on the Bradley. They are plastic, but we'll engineered plastic. I think nothing about standing on them as a step if needed. I wish I had gotten more of these when I had the chance.
Yep, I've ordered a bunch of stuff from HF back when they did all the freebies and stuff. Only problem for me is the nearest one is like 35 minutes away. 😆
@@joemoment-o1275 Funny thing is now we have one that opened a few months ago less than 10 minutes away, but now I don't really need anything else from there.😆
Much appreciated. I really like this little cheap wireless mic for my range footage especially. I'm having to use the built in mic on this little cam inside though because I'm getting some kind of interference I noticed on a few vids here and there from who knows what. It only seems to happen inside. I'm guessing it's my wifi or something going on. I'm so picky about sound especially that I'll probably upgrade again very soon. I know how annoying it can be to watch a vid with bad sound. 😆
I get "so Called" Factory Reloads at the gun show in plastic cans. Every now and then can find cheap stuff in metal cans. My stored Ammo only last thru the winter, then once the snow melts it rapidly gets used
A suggestion. If you see oil field service companies going out of business or auctioning/selling assets, we use the hell out of surplus 30 and 50 cal cans for parts and fittings. WV would be the closest place for oil field service companies around you.
I bought a combo pack from ammo can man and I could not be more happy! Quality cans at a reasonable price not that cheap Chinese junk they sell at the discount stores!!
I'm so paranoid when I throw out ammo store boxes they go in a separate plastic Walmart bag with no name and address anywhere near that bag... and least I'm not the only one that buys Walmart cans... Tractor Supply had great 50 cal cans at $10 too!
I love the plastic ones myself...i have steel ones too but for storing boxes of ammo they work just fine. Throw in a moisture pack and put em in the closet. Done
Also add a date to the label on the can and I add a couple labels inside with details and a date it was purchased. A full 50 cal box will weigh 50-70 lbs.
Take this with a grain of salt. I avoid those "Walmart 50 cal metal cans". These Walmart ammo cans are made in china. I bought 3 in the past. I tested all 3 by loading them up with rocks or whatever weight and submerged them in water. 10mins. I pull them out after 10mins and let them dry off for 1 hour. The cans leaked. The local Harbor Freight in my area sell mix mash of 50 cal metal cans. It has Made in Vietnam and Made in China cans. I bought some of the Chinese made in china from the local Haber Freight in my area. Same thing. They all leaked. The Made in Vietnam seems to be okay.
Around a year ago Walmart changed their cans to a much worse quality . The green ones like in the video were pretty nice. The new style is drab brown, and the quality is visibly bad. Both made in China tho.
I put 500 rounds in a 1 gallon zip lock bag! You can still put a 1000 rounds in the same can! Doubles your protection! Put a bag full in the sink over night and had no water intrusion! Then you can still use the plastic cans!
One maybe better than the other but in reality it’s not that big of a deal. I’ve reloaded shotgun ammo for 30 plus years. Boxes sat in my garage(not temp controlled)in drawers that I built for storage. Some of those shotgun boxes sat for 15 years and never had one swell, misfire, or completely just fall apart. Temps varied from minus zero to over 100 every year. Gunpowder, primers, shells(paper and plastic) all in the same environment and zero issues. I’m not saying this is the best choice but it’s not that crucial. Now, for metal cartridges I’ve only kept .22’s out there and some of the brass has discolored but still no issues. They haven’t sat as long as some of the shotgun shells have
One .50 cal can will store 300 .308 in 20 round box or 1000 5.56 in 50 round box or 1000 9mm in 50 round box or 2500 .22 LR in 100 round containers (CCI plastic) I built a wooden shelving unit that houses 35 cans (5 shelves of 7 cans) for my shtf ammo which i started gathering quite a few years ago. 1500 or 5 cans .308 (900 168 gr hpbt/600 147 gr ball) 15000 or 15 cans 5.56 62 gr ball. 5000 or 5 cans of 9mm (3000 124 gr XTP/2000 124 gr ball). 25000 or 10 cans of .22 lr (5000 CCI 32 gr HP Stingers/20000 CCI 36 gr HP). ((46500 for those that count)) Each can also has a desicant pack in it. My training/hunting/range/practice ammo and ammo in other calibers is also stored on shelves but not in ammo cans. Some is stored in mags others in original box and some in mtm 100 count boxes. Enjoyed your video.
Love the .50 cal cans, no better storage for ammo! I do have a problem though, more of a sickness I believe...I'm up to about 45 cans now, not including my .30 cal boxes... 🙄
Unfortunately, I couldn't. I have heard someone say you could but when you put an unopened case of them next to a .50 cal can, I don't see how it's possible.
I have alot of plastic cans and yea their not the best but for a couple bucks it's better than nothing. I've also made the mistake of buying cheap Walmart 50 cal cans and had the handles bend apart so now I primarily only run USA 30 cal or 50 cal. I still keep my cheap ones just for organizing things but anything I feel I might need to move more then once and it goes in higher quality can. But 3 to 5 dollars is much more cost effective than 20 to 30 a can for the metal so they do have a place
I have a fairly large collection of metal military cans (close to 50 of them!) in which I store ammo. I even have a huge one that is about half full of primers. Some of the older ones the seals are old and hard as rocks and don't seal all that well but they are definitely strong. However, I'm going to be looking into some plastic cans with intention of changing over to them instead of the metal cans for just one specific reason: fear if fire. If the plastic cans are exposed to fire they melt then allow the ammo to cook off relatively harmlessly. On the other hand, if the metal cans are exposed to fire, they become a bomb - especially if filled with primers! Of course, any replacement plastic cans would have to be moisture proof and at this point, I have yet to actually look into it, so I'm not even sure if it's possible (or if I can afford it!). One possibility would be storing the ammo in plastic zip lock freezer bags, which can be "burped" to remove all the air. They will remain perfectly sealed until the bag is punctured. Anyway, time will tell! As for storage, when it comes to rifle ammo, instead of storing ammo by caliber, I mark the cans by specific rifle, especially my .308, since I have 2 and the ammo is not interchangeable at all! One is a standard chamber and the other is a custom rifle with a tight chamber so the average .308 cartridge will simply not chamber! Others, I do by caliber. I store my powder in a relatively new sears reefer because the compressor died right at 30 days over the warranty period and sears wouldn't cover it! Last sears appliance I'll ever buy! Anyway, I ripped all the guts out, sealed every thing up and now it's a powder magazine! And won't be a bomb in a fire! Like you, I like the little dessicant cans that can be recharged when necessary. Very convenient and works well! Cheers, jc
@@ToolsandTargets Not sure how good a plan and of course we all know what happens to the plan on first contact with the enemy (in this, anyone that takes a credit card!). Cheers, jc
Try some 303 spray to soften the rubber on hard seals. It's basically silicone oils and platicizers, also works grerat on car door seals and other rubber products. Wipe it on, let it soak in, put more on if it soaks it all up, and wipe off any excess after 10 minutes or so. Once a single round goes off in the metal can, they will deform and outgass, no worries about bombs. Primers might start a chainfire, but are despersed enough not to create a pressure vector. But if you insist, I will gladly take the metal cans off you. ;-)
If you look it up online there’s a way to stack 1000 rnds of 7.62x39 in those Ammo cans. If you stack the boxes a certain way 1000 fits right in perfect
i like the .30cal metal ammo cans the best. the .50 cal ammo cans get a little heavy when they are full. i have metal cans for the ammo, and plastic ones for accessories just like you have going on. lol
I really appreciate that! Hoping to get some good range and shooting footage soon if this weather will cooperate a little. Thanks a lot for the comment. 😎
@@coreysuttles1362 Nice, I was born and raised in GA but been a Virginian for about 26 years now. This cold weather and snow in the winter was a shock to the system for sure! 🥶
Interesting topic. I only have plastic and they are stored in an extremely dry basement in Colorado. Been considering adding metal to the mix. The plastic ones’ handles struggle with high round count weight. Time to diversify. !!!
I use some plastic ones just to have somewhere nice & neat to store ammo. Its inside of course & ive always used silica packs! Guess its time to change up. The plastic is definitely inferior to the metal although the steel ones are not 100% anything. People make silly mistakes regardless. Best bet is to use some common sense or just ask someone that does.😁
I store all my ammo in the ammo boxes mostly metal but i leave in cardboard ammo packaging and put silica packs in there. Put the ammo boxes in a gun safe with Hornady humidifier bags.but 9 out of ten of my boxes are metal
Another great informational video from Tools! Have you ever used one of the tall 81mm metal ammo cans? Probably come both new and military surplus. They hold about 6X more than the 50cal cans but I see them for $5-$10 more than the 50cal. Of course the benefit is alot more storage for the money and the downside being you might not be able to lift it....lol.
Thank you sir. I haven't tried them but I think I know the ones you're talking about. I don't know if my floor will hold too much more ammo as it is!🤣🤣
I think you have done well stacking it deep my friend. I saw one of these tall ammo cans listed for sale but it didn't have any writing on it. I asked the seller if it was military; he said it was. I asked about any writing on it. He said his son works for the government and told him to clean off the writing if he ever sold it, that the information was classified. What could it have possibly stored?
I store my ammo in an unusual way I leave my ammo in the box it comes in but I seal it in a 5 gallon bucket with a snap on lid and I put a medicine with sodium cilicate powder in it with some tiny holes punched in the bottle lid to absorb moisture works very well and is very affordable
I've never had any problem with plastic ammo boxes. As long as you keep ammo dry and a fairly constant temperature within about 5 degrees you're okay. I live in Utah and the last thing I have to worry about is a flood or much moisture. It's the second or third driest state. I think maybe Arizona and Nevada are a touch drier. So this advice is not good for certain areas. But fine for back east where this guy is likely from.
I had plastic at first until the handles started popping off on both the little plastic cans and the big mtm cans. Now it’s just metal all the way. No handles popping g off and boolits everywhere.
“Unless a horde of zombies or liberals are coming after me”. Samey-same my friend, samey-same. 😂 I love my old steel ammo cans. My dad handed 2 down to me that he has had since the Korean War. The gaskets are still in great shape because dad conditioned them with a similar type grease you used. My brother gave me 1 from when he was in the Army in the late 70’s. My local Army surplus has some and I’m going to have to pick up a couple more.
Tools&Targets, I think the metal ammo cans protect ammo much better than the plastic cans. I have just one plastic can for storing only bbs and airgun pellets. I got it because the pellet containers are round and work better in a smaller container such as a plastic 30 cal one. Since the airgun pellet containers hold several hundred rounds it’s not necessary to have several boxes of them. It would take a lot more pellet containers to fill a metal 50 cal can than a 30 cal plastic can.
Probably at least 50 pellet containers, that’s like 10,000 pellets maybe 20,000 depending on container capacity. The pellet containers are alot smaller than 50 round fmj boxes of 9mm, 40, 45 etc.
@@corbinpowell128 HF boxes are light-duty only. I have a couple. I don't keep ammo or anything heavy in them. One holds my PPE, chamber flags, target stickers, etc. I have MTM cans which feel much sturdier and have better latches. The HF cans aren't a bargain at like a dollar less than the MTM. HF sells metal cans, but they feel cheap and have pretty bad reviews. I would prefer real steel ammo cans, but I haven't found a source with decent reviews.
I picked up a cheap camera and wireless lapel mic to try and figure out something for when I hit the range. Let me know what y'all think about it. I think the camera is gonna work out ok once I bump it up to 4k outdoors especially to get target angles but I'm not completely happy with the mic just yet. I think I have the mic clipped a little too close to my face so when my voice volume goes up, its distorting a little. I also noticed when I went to edit this that there are a couple times when I was getting interference, but I realized afterwards that I can change the frequency. After I did that, I didn't have the issue in a few test videos.
Hopefully I can get it tweaked to where I'm happy enough with it because this wireless mic will come in handy on the range for sure. Let me know what y'all think and any tips you have. 👍
You sound good to me brother.
@@chiliboom6140 😎👍
Zombies are walking dead liberals.
I did a long term expirament, put silica gel packs with moisture indicators on them like what you have, in a few metal and plastic ammo cans, and let them sit for a year. When i opened them, all the gel packs in the metal cans still showed blue like they had just been opened. The ones in the plastic cans had all turned pink. The cans sat in my closet, didn't get tossed around at all. Good info in this video, have to protect those long term investments!
Yessir, there's a big difference for sure. Appreciate the info!😎
I have factory ammo sitting in my closet, in the original cardboard boxes that still shoots 100% after 20 years
If the ammo is in a controlled environment it will basically last forever regardless
@@JustMe-999a same here, no need to store ammo in cans unless it's humid or too dry. my oldddd surplus ammo from before I was born all shoot fine. I don't expose them to anything nor anything damaging.
@@JustMe-999a Are you serious?
I was a security inspector at an Army depot. We had earth covered magazine/bunkers full of ordnance that had no electricity installed. There were a number with pre-positioned pack out loads for deployments. These were small arms in original crates in original cans with the lead and wire seals in place. The data on the inventory documentation showed most of the ammunition was more than 10 years in the igloo. No heating, no a/c, no humidity control. I believe in “MIL-STANDARD” ammo cans.
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I'm making this comment about 4 minutes into the video and my experience has been 100% in agreement. I started out using some plastic ammo cans, but eventually replaced them all with metal. Good advice.
You are absolutely right. I had only these 50 cal plastic ones and one time I put something like 17 or 18 boxes of 44 Mag in them. I had it on a high shelf. I went to lift it off by the handle and then handle broke off, the plastic ammo tin fell on the ground about 5 feet drop and the lid broke open on one side and a couple of boxes of ammo fell out. I would never trust these plastic ones again with any significant amount of weight. The only reason why I would prefer plastic is because they are lockable whereas the metal ones are not
The metal cans are lockable. Run a typical gun lock that comes with every new gun through the hole in the latch and the front handle. Bazinga, its looked.
The surplus mil spec ones are easier to lock.
The knock offs at rural king or tractor supply only have a little hole you have to use a cable. Whereas the surplus can use a master lock.
I have 2 steel ammo cans that I have had for 50 years, dad got them for me to store my G.I. Joe stuff in back in the late 60's and they still seal tight. and used for ammo now
Nice 😎
Metal box's for storage and plastic for the range or hunting. The plastic boxes does not have sharp corners to cut up your truck seats.
Theses metal cans are also good to put bolts in them, the plastic is good for small screws are lighter stuff in them.
Thanks to this video I just ordered 3 of these 50cal metal cans out the door for $40 shipped to my door in 2 days 3-17-22 wish I could've ordered more. Thank you for the advice. I'm new and trying to learn everything on my own(not by choice) so I appreciate any help I can get. I'm about to buy more ammo and just ask for forgiveness from the wife.
Nice! Better to ask for forgiveness than permission!😆
3 minutes into it and I'm convinced. Switching to metal.
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I would occasionally pick up the small plastic ones for 3 bucks a piece the large ones for 6 bucks. At the time the metal ones were A) hard to find, and B) fifteen to twenty five bucks each depending on condition. I know, the metal ones can be put underwater, so it is a proven better seal, but for what I've done with 16 ammo cans it would have cost me three to four times as much, and I haven't had problems with the plastic ones. Been doing it for years. No problems with corrosion on shotshells, rust on reloading dies, of issues with primers.
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Same here.
The plastic cans have worked well for me
@@ToolsandTargets Plastic cans bend, buckle and I don't use em for anything but some 22lr and Magnum.
Great video brother. We've been listening in the car like a Podcast and my son loves the way you say, "Dunham's."
Great content
Thank you sir. Appreciate y'all checkin it out!😎
I like how the metal 50 cal cans stack on each other. Ive got some stacked four high in my basement. Those things are heavy as hell but theres no worry about them warping and falling over .
late to the party on this one, but I use plastic ammo cans for things like first aid supplies that are also sealed in their own containers inside the ammo can. they're great for keeping things together and organized. not so great at long term ammo storage. Like you I also store used brass in them, sealed black powder supplies etc. I ended up getting several of the plastic cans years ago from someone who didn't want them. I think of them like knock off tupperware. lol
Thanks for the video. Appreciate the advice especially for the non petroleum silicon grease.
To send 15 dollar to save 500 dollars ammo is just good coming cents
Im glad saw ur video before buying a plastic ammo box.
Im just a beginner !
They have some uses but metal is definitely a better choice.👍
Welcome to the party🤪
Nice video! You're 100% correct about the silicone on the rubber seals. I use Hornadys Unique case lube on all my ammo cans. It also works on leather! My vote is more .223/5.56 & 10mm videos- keep'em comin.
I agree metal over plastic, the militaries around the world use metal for a reason. I've been useing some for some of my ammo, but slowly adding more cans to keep my stuff safe. I've got a lot of loose ammo in various calibers, and I reload alot. I figure I should load more of it vs keeping components.
I've always wondered if it's better to stockpile components or just go ahead and roll it into ammo.
@@ToolsandTargets I've got Dillon 1050, so it makes no sense to just have a pile of parts. I'll be converting the components into readi use for the calibers I use
Under IDEAL conditions, ammo can sit on a shelf without being an ammo can it be good for decades
But aren't we preppers? Aren't we preparing for circumstances that are NOT IDEAL?
How many people live in apartments with sprinkler systems, every single house has pipes that can break, basements that can flood, or living areas that have flood risks ect. THAT is what ammo cans are for
Protecting your onvestments when life tosses you curve balls ..
Just found a large ammo crate in the trash.
Gonna put my tools in them.
I bought a plastic cam for my first one, accidentally dropped it off of the tailgate of my stock, not jacked up, F150 pick up truck a week after I got it with maybe 100 rounds in in the thing and the top busted right off. The hinges we just absolute junk. Threw it away and have bought metal cans since. I rest well knowing that if we start getting rained on, my can will keep my ammo dry…as long as I remember to close the damn things.
Plastic ones are handy for carrying a few things her and there, but metal is definitely more secure.😎👍
I store my long-term ammo in the 5-gallon buckets from Home Depot. They seal really well and they stack well.
Good idea!😎
That's a really good way to store ammo.
Cheap & effective.
Who's going to lift it???
lol that's how I store my ammo to. lol. I use Lowes buckets though. I've been using 5 gal buckets with lids for years. haven't had a single problem at all.
That’s gotta weight 100 lbs full. At least.
Cameron pictures great!! Seems like a great buy awesome pitcher awesome sound👍
Not to burst anyone’s bubbles … but all the cans on that table are made in China. Metal and plastic.
The only US made cans still available comes through surplus and companies specializing in getting (used) product from mil.
Completely aware of that. Chinese steel is better than Chinese plastic...maybe😂
@@ToolsandTargets … 😊 I’ve seen a couple of side by side comparisons of Sino vs US steel cans, and in general and on the surface they are similar. BUT, not the same.
The US steel strength is stronger … therefore less flex and therefore better water and moisture sealed. The US ones are to US mil spec. The sino products claim to be but are not.
Besides … support US workers and Made in the USA brother. 👍🏻
Anything sino benefits the CCP.
If funds allows in the future, how about getting US made products and test those against each other … incl plastics?
Just a thought …
All Walmart products are made in China 😂
Plastic cans are for organization, not for long term storage. I have plenty of both! I've found the 30 cal cans are more practical, the 50s don't fit right in my cabinets or my safe.
I have a huge pile of metal cans now. Mostly use them for transporting all my test ammo back and forth from the range.
I agree that the metal cans are better than the plastic cans. I do think the plastic ones have a use though. I just picked up a set of the plastic ones for my reloading components. One holds my brass, one holds my primers, one holds my projectiles. My 4000 primers are in those vacuum seal bags with a pack of desiccant pack.
I use plastic ones for reloading components too.👍
Sportsman's Guide has all different kinds of metal ammo cans instock I just ordered 4
Nice. Don't think I've bought from them before. I'll have to check em out. 😎
I had ammo in the original boxes stored in a non-climate controlled garage for 15 years and it all worked fine.
Yep, Ammo will outlast most people without doing anything special.
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New gun owner and glad I came across your channel. Starting to get into bulk ammo storage and this really helped me. Camera & Mike quality is good. Liked & Subbed! 👊🏾
Really appreciate that. Welcome to the club my friend!😎
Welcome Jason
Harbor freight has just started selling 30 cal metal cans. They also have 50 cal metal cans to.
I get my metal 50 cal ones from RK now for $11.99.👍
@@ToolsandTargets that’s how much harbor freights are on sale.
About 6 or 7 years ago a guy here on YT, did a 1 year experiment. He filled a plastic and metal ammo can with boxes of ammo. He then submerged them in a pond for an entire year. He pulled them out and opened them up and the metal can was perfect no water was able to get into the can. The seal was intact but the plastic can was soaked, all the ammo was wet and the seal was broken in a couple of places.
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I agree 100%. I just ordered 36 M1A2 cans. Steel cans are the best.
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Where do you get decent cans?
Steel ammo boxes are the best in my opinion
Not just for ammo either
First aid supplies
Tools
Optics
Documents and currency's
I even use a 16 inch tall 50 can for my scopes and rings along with a tool kit
The one thing I would not store in a ammo can is food
Thanks for the videos
And the great info
You have a good one brother
Just saying
Agreed. Appreciate that my friend. Have a great weekend.😎
Good for camera gear too. Pretty much anything you want to protect.
I remember when those cans were five bucks each, and thinking wow, how can they charge so much for them!
Now I wish I'd bought more than the few I have. They're great for all sorts of stuff, made with MUCH better quality than "civilian" toolboxes etc.
If I'm going to shoot the ammo within a year, I just throw the factory boxes in a plastic can for easy carrying to the range. For long term storage, I vacuum seal them with desiccant packs in the bag and place them in a large plastic box with some additional 'free floating' desiccant packs in the bottom of it. They been perfectly fine for years now.
I rarely buy the same ammo because my supplier has different manufacturers. So I like to keep my ammo in it's original boxes. Also to remind me of the ballistics. I also use a dymo label maker to indicate what ammo I have in each magazine. I also inventory my ammo by manufacturer, grain, bullet type, whether or not it's +P, and the amount. I'd like to have 1000 rds of each caliber, but I have a long way to go to achieve that goal.
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1000 rds of each caliber is a good starting point..... LOL
The only "Plastic" ammo cans I would really trust with anything substantial are those big, beefy Pelican ones made of high-impact polymer. But considering they're expensive as hell and not efficient space-wise (they're weirdly-shaped), they're only really good for specific things.
Durable as hell though, and they come with little pressure equalization valves. They do seal very well at least.
True. I have an off branded one of those and it's definitely bulky.
While I have metal 50 cal ammo cans. I also have quite a few MTM 50 cal Zombie cans. They are not flimsy plastic. I like how they stack. I was also getting them on clearance every year from a hardware store. I have a couple cheap flimsy plastic cans I use as range cans.
I even have four 25mm ammo cans for the Bushmaster cannon on the Bradley. They are plastic, but we'll engineered plastic. I think nothing about standing on them as a step if needed. I wish I had gotten more of these when I had the chance.
Nice! All plastics are definitely not created equal.👍
Wally world sells mil spec metal ammo cans for under $13. Bucks. Thats all I use. They also have brand new rubber seals.
Yessir. I was getting mine from there until RK started selling them for $11. Still a great deal though.👍
Picture great and sound is great also.
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I get metal cans at Harbor Freight decent cheap boxes.
Yep, I've ordered a bunch of stuff from HF back when they did all the freebies and stuff. Only problem for me is the nearest one is like 35 minutes away. 😆
@@ToolsandTargets I feel that, ours is the south end of a town 17 miles away... 😤 Only thing I found beat anything was their mini chop saw
@@joemoment-o1275 Funny thing is now we have one that opened a few months ago less than 10 minutes away, but now I don't really need anything else from there.😆
Sound and video is MUCH better!!!
Much appreciated. I really like this little cheap wireless mic for my range footage especially. I'm having to use the built in mic on this little cam inside though because I'm getting some kind of interference I noticed on a few vids here and there from who knows what. It only seems to happen inside. I'm guessing it's my wifi or something going on. I'm so picky about sound especially that I'll probably upgrade again very soon. I know how annoying it can be to watch a vid with bad sound. 😆
Areo space 303 for rubber seals!
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I get "so Called" Factory Reloads at the gun show in plastic cans. Every now and then can find cheap stuff in metal cans. My stored Ammo only last thru the winter, then once the snow melts it rapidly gets used
A suggestion. If you see oil field service companies going out of business or auctioning/selling assets, we use the hell out of surplus 30 and 50 cal cans for parts and fittings. WV would be the closest place for oil field service companies around you.
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I bought a combo pack from ammo can man and I could not be more happy! Quality cans at a reasonable price not that cheap Chinese junk they sell at the discount stores!!
I'm so paranoid when I throw out ammo store boxes they go in a separate plastic Walmart bag with no name and address anywhere near that bag... and least I'm not the only one that buys Walmart cans... Tractor Supply had great 50 cal cans at $10 too!
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I burn my cardboard boxes in my burn pit
Harbor freight also has good deals on the 50 cal cans
I love the plastic ones myself...i have steel ones too but for storing boxes of ammo they work just fine. Throw in a moisture pack and put em in the closet. Done
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This is my opinion and please correct me if I’m wrong. Metal cases if you move around a lot. Plastic cases if your more of a home person.
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I just happen to have a few ammo boxes from bulk purchases and found they are nice for carrying my ammo on range day but thank you for the info.
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Also add a date to the label on the can and I add a couple labels inside with details and a date it was purchased. A full 50 cal box will weigh 50-70 lbs.
I have an orange ammo can used for riot teargas grenades if your interested. It’s very unique
Nice. Don't think I've seen those.
Take this with a grain of salt. I avoid those "Walmart 50 cal metal cans". These Walmart ammo cans are made in china. I bought 3 in the past. I tested all 3 by loading them up with rocks or whatever weight and submerged them in water. 10mins. I pull them out after 10mins and let them dry off for 1 hour. The cans leaked.
The local Harbor Freight in my area sell mix mash of 50 cal metal cans. It has Made in Vietnam and Made in China cans. I bought some of the Chinese made in china from the local Haber Freight in my area. Same thing. They all leaked. The Made in Vietnam seems to be okay.
Around a year ago Walmart changed their cans to a much worse quality . The green ones like in the video were pretty nice. The new style is drab brown, and the quality is visibly bad. Both made in China tho.
looks and sounds good to me
I put 500 rounds in a 1 gallon zip lock bag! You can still put a 1000 rounds in the same can! Doubles your protection! Put a bag full in the sink over night and had no water intrusion! Then you can still use the plastic cans!
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One maybe better than the other but in reality it’s not that big of a deal. I’ve reloaded shotgun ammo for 30 plus years. Boxes sat in my garage(not temp controlled)in drawers that I built for storage. Some of those shotgun boxes sat for 15 years and never had one swell, misfire, or completely just fall apart. Temps varied from minus zero to over 100 every year. Gunpowder, primers, shells(paper and plastic) all in the same environment and zero issues. I’m not saying this is the best choice but it’s not that crucial. Now, for metal cartridges I’ve only kept .22’s out there and some of the brass has discolored but still no issues. They haven’t sat as long as some of the shotgun shells have
Agreed. Ammo will most likely outlast all of us no matter how it's stored.👍
One .50 cal can will store 300 .308 in 20 round box or 1000 5.56 in 50 round box or 1000 9mm in 50 round box or 2500 .22 LR in 100 round containers (CCI plastic) I built a wooden shelving unit that houses 35 cans (5 shelves of 7 cans) for my shtf ammo which i started gathering quite a few years ago. 1500 or 5 cans .308 (900 168 gr hpbt/600 147 gr ball) 15000 or 15 cans 5.56 62 gr ball. 5000 or 5 cans of 9mm (3000 124 gr XTP/2000 124 gr ball). 25000 or 10 cans of .22 lr
(5000 CCI 32 gr HP Stingers/20000 CCI 36 gr HP). ((46500 for those that count)) Each can also has a desicant pack in it. My training/hunting/range/practice ammo and ammo in other calibers is also stored on shelves but not in ammo cans. Some is stored in mags others in original box and some in mtm 100 count boxes. Enjoyed your video.
Sounds like a nice setup. Thank you sir.😎👊
Love the .50 cal cans, no better storage for ammo! I do have a problem though, more of a sickness I believe...I'm up to about 45 cans now, not including my .30 cal boxes... 🙄
Yeah, same here.😆
Those smaller boxes of 7.62x39 (your ammo can on the right) you can stack them to hold 1000 rounds in one .50 cal can.
Unfortunately, I couldn't. I have heard someone say you could but when you put an unopened case of them next to a .50 cal can, I don't see how it's possible.
Moisture absorber inside, Vaseline around the lids seat, candle wax around all points of potential failure. Ammunition secure...
I have American plastic boxes and steal ammo cans both great
I still use plastic ones to carry my range ammo and mags. I just prefer the steel for long tern stuff.👍
Camera works good. Thank for the video. Audio was good too.
Thanks for checkin it out. Got things much more dialed in now.😎👍
I have alot of plastic cans and yea their not the best but for a couple bucks it's better than nothing. I've also made the mistake of buying cheap Walmart 50 cal cans and had the handles bend apart so now I primarily only run USA 30 cal or 50 cal. I still keep my cheap ones just for organizing things but anything I feel I might need to move more then once and it goes in higher quality can. But 3 to 5 dollars is much more cost effective than 20 to 30 a can for the metal so they do have a place
I have a fairly large collection of metal military cans (close to 50 of them!) in which I store ammo. I even have a huge one that is about half full of primers. Some of the older ones the seals are old and hard as rocks and don't seal all that well but they are definitely strong. However, I'm going to be looking into some plastic cans with intention of changing over to them instead of the metal cans for just one specific reason: fear if fire. If the plastic cans are exposed to fire they melt then allow the ammo to cook off relatively harmlessly. On the other hand, if the metal cans are exposed to fire, they become a bomb - especially if filled with primers! Of course, any replacement plastic cans would have to be moisture proof and at this point, I have yet to actually look into it, so I'm not even sure if it's possible (or if I can afford it!). One possibility would be storing the ammo in plastic zip lock freezer bags, which can be "burped" to remove all the air. They will remain perfectly sealed until the bag is punctured. Anyway, time will tell!
As for storage, when it comes to rifle ammo, instead of storing ammo by caliber, I mark the cans by specific rifle, especially my .308, since I have 2 and the ammo is not interchangeable at all! One is a standard chamber and the other is a custom rifle with a tight chamber so the average .308 cartridge will simply not chamber! Others, I do by caliber. I store my powder in a relatively new sears reefer because the compressor died right at 30 days over the warranty period and sears wouldn't cover it! Last sears appliance I'll ever buy! Anyway, I ripped all the guts out, sealed every thing up and now it's a powder magazine! And won't be a bomb in a fire!
Like you, I like the little dessicant cans that can be recharged when necessary. Very convenient and works well!
Cheers,
jc
Sounds like a plan.😎👍
@@ToolsandTargets Not sure how good a plan and of course we all know what happens to the plan on first contact with the enemy (in this, anyone that takes a credit card!).
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Try some 303 spray to soften the rubber on hard seals. It's basically silicone oils and platicizers, also works grerat on car door seals and other rubber products. Wipe it on, let it soak in, put more on if it soaks it all up, and wipe off any excess after 10 minutes or so.
Once a single round goes off in the metal can, they will deform and outgass, no worries about bombs. Primers might start a chainfire, but are despersed enough not to create a pressure vector. But if you insist, I will gladly take the metal cans off you. ;-)
@@nobodynoone2500the 303 protectant in a spray bottle, for car detailing?
Good info. Excellent video. 👍
Last year i picked up a few 30 cal cans for 10 dollars each. I havent found anything but 50 cal cans in michigan lately
Wow, that's a good price on .30 cal cans for sure. They're usually higher priced than the .50's for some reason. 👍
@@ToolsandTargets just the other day i saw some 30 cal cans for 15 dollars, not sure anymore if thats a deal or not.
@@austen567 That's still good from what I've seen for .30 cans. I'll never understand why they're more than the .50's.😆
If you look it up online there’s a way to stack 1000 rnds of 7.62x39 in those Ammo cans. If you stack the boxes a certain way 1000 fits right in perfect
Nice. I'll have to look for that.👍
FINALLY somebody who tells the truth. I cringe every time somebody oils the seals on these cans.
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i like the .30cal metal ammo cans the best. the .50 cal ammo cans get a little heavy when they are full. i have metal cans for the ammo, and plastic ones for accessories just like you have going on. lol
Great content, really enjoyed this!
I really appreciate that! Hoping to get some good range and shooting footage soon if this weather will cooperate a little. Thanks a lot for the comment. 😎
@@ToolsandTargets thank God I live in the south ,SC to be exact!!
@@coreysuttles1362 Nice, I was born and raised in GA but been a Virginian for about 26 years now. This cold weather and snow in the winter was a shock to the system for sure! 🥶
@@ToolsandTargets I bet it was 😂😂
Thank you for the knowledge 👍
Appreciate the comment. Thanks for checking it out.😎
Regarding the camera, Audio is very Good. Video wasn't bad at all. HD wasn't required for the purpose of the video.
I've made quite an upgrade since this one.😎👍
Ammo will definitely corrode if not stored properly. Ask me how I know. 😂
Uh oh. No stories of your grandkids finding grandpas stash of 100 year old ammo and it still being "good as new, eh?" 😂
Plastic Box I use for ammo transportation from home to range. Metal boxes for long term storage and stockpiling ammo.
Good plan.👍
Interesting topic.
I only have plastic and they are stored in an extremely dry basement in Colorado. Been considering adding metal to the mix. The plastic ones’ handles struggle with high round count weight.
Time to diversify. !!!
Variety is the spice of life!😎👍
I tried to fill a couple with 22lr and the sides split more than my jeans at Golden Corral. The metal one I put 12k 22lr and she chooches...
@@joemoment-o1275 lol😂
I use some plastic ones just to have somewhere nice & neat to store ammo.
Its inside of course & ive always used silica packs! Guess its time to change up. The plastic is definitely inferior to the metal although the steel ones are not 100% anything. People make silly mistakes regardless. Best bet is to use some common sense or just ask someone that does.😁
True. I store most of my stuff in the original boxes on shelves.😆
The MTM plastic boxes are a step above the other plastic boxes and made in USA.
I store all my ammo in the ammo boxes mostly metal but i leave in cardboard ammo packaging and put silica packs in there. Put the ammo boxes in a gun safe with Hornady humidifier bags.but 9 out of ten of my boxes are metal
Dang I learned something today I didn't know silicone spray still contained petroleum distillates!
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@@ToolsandTargets I have been using regular motor oil on a Q-tip for years, probably the worst idea ever LOL
@@nickrussett259 Long as it's working, I reckon.
Another great informational video from Tools! Have you ever used one of the tall 81mm metal ammo cans? Probably come both new and military surplus. They hold about 6X more than the 50cal cans but I see them for $5-$10 more than the 50cal. Of course the benefit is alot more storage for the money and the downside being you might not be able to lift it....lol.
Thank you sir. I haven't tried them but I think I know the ones you're talking about. I don't know if my floor will hold too much more ammo as it is!🤣🤣
I think you have done well stacking it deep my friend. I saw one of these tall ammo cans listed for sale but it didn't have any writing on it. I asked the seller if it was military; he said it was. I asked about any writing on it. He said his son works for the government and told him to clean off the writing if he ever sold it, that the information was classified. What could it have possibly stored?
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@@ToolsandTargets 🤣😅🤣 you so crazy👍
Those big cans are large enough to keep disassembled rifles or some other large gear dry and safe.
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Plastic get very brittle in the cold also. That goes with plastic magazines too.
True!
I can flex the sides of metal ammo cans too
I mean yeah, I can flex 1/4" steel too but there's a big difference in the amount of force needed. Pretty sure most people get the point.👍
You animal!
Great video! Question: Could you use boot grease on the seals?
What are you considering short/long time storage? Plastic cases I use for parts and time on the range.
That's what I do with plastic ones also.👍
Just for the point of being able to sit or stand on a metal can makes it the choice
I store my ammo in an unusual way I leave my ammo in the box it comes in but I seal it in a 5 gallon bucket with a snap on lid and I put a medicine with sodium cilicate powder in it with some tiny holes punched in the bottle lid to absorb moisture works very well and is very affordable
That's a good idea!
Where did you find the stickers you labeled your cans with?
Amazon. If you search "ammo can stickers" it'll bring up a bunch with random calibers or packs of all the same calibers. 👍
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Appreciate ya, brother!
rubber non petrolium, synthetic , is petrolium based so not an issue wd 40
water dispersant , (wd 40)
I've never had any problem with plastic ammo boxes. As long as you keep ammo dry and a fairly constant temperature within about 5 degrees you're okay. I live in Utah and the last thing I have to worry about is a flood or much moisture. It's the second or third driest state. I think maybe Arizona and Nevada are a touch drier. So this advice is not good for certain areas. But fine for back east where this guy is likely from.
This advice is "good" period. Weather has nothing to do with the fact that metal cans are far superior to plastic.
I had plastic at first until the handles started popping off on both the little plastic cans and the big mtm cans. Now it’s just metal all the way. No handles popping g off and boolits everywhere.
Yep. I just use the old plastic ones for random parts and stuff now.👍
Full metal cans stack better
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Appreciate you checking it out.😎👍
My plastic container is about 3/4 full and it feels like it’s going to burst. That’s what prompted this question for me.
Yeah, they're ok until you get really crazy with weight in em.
Great video
Use 303 rubber restorer softener and restore the gasket
“Unless a horde of zombies or liberals are coming after me”. Samey-same my friend, samey-same. 😂 I love my old steel ammo cans. My dad handed 2 down to me that he has had since the Korean War. The gaskets are still in great shape because dad conditioned them with a similar type grease you used. My brother gave me 1 from when he was in the Army in the late 70’s. My local Army surplus has some and I’m going to have to pick up a couple more.
Nice. The old ones are definitely the best.😎👍
Tools&Targets, I think the metal ammo cans protect ammo much better than the plastic cans. I have just one plastic can for storing only bbs and airgun pellets. I got it because the pellet containers are round and work better in a smaller container such as a plastic 30 cal one. Since the airgun pellet containers hold several hundred rounds it’s not necessary to have several boxes of them. It would take a lot more pellet containers to fill a metal 50 cal can than a 30 cal plastic can.
Makes sense.
Probably at least 50 pellet containers, that’s like 10,000 pellets maybe 20,000 depending on container capacity. The pellet containers are alot smaller than 50 round fmj boxes of 9mm, 40, 45 etc.
What brand is the plastic can?
@@TUKByV just one of the plastic 30 cal cans from Harbor Freight. I think it’s Bunker Hill Security 30 cal plastic ammo can.
@@corbinpowell128 HF boxes are light-duty only. I have a couple. I don't keep ammo or anything heavy in them. One holds my PPE, chamber flags, target stickers, etc. I have MTM cans which feel much sturdier and have better latches. The HF cans aren't a bargain at like a dollar less than the MTM. HF sells metal cans, but they feel cheap and have pretty bad reviews. I would prefer real steel ammo cans, but I haven't found a source with decent reviews.
Great advice
Thank you sir. Appreciate you checkin it out!