@@anthonysulpizio2269 we have already sort of responded but this isn’t our “dream list” this is what we think Konami is most likely to do. We hate to say it but Konami doesn’t care about rogue decks.. they want to sell products. Changing the meta is what does that.
Cooclock is a terrible hit imo. Hitting clock immediately invalidates ikea. This means that the best lab deck will be floodgate again. Also they should make a trap negate hand trap thats not a floodgate. Reboot was a horribly designed card. Its a floodgate that nobody recognizes as a floodgate, because it hits trap decks. Lich and lab arent fun, but we are getting new centurion cards soon, and reboot slaughters that deck.
And for the reboot topic we need a retrain/errata I don't believe it needs to lock opponents out of traps for the TURN in exchange for setting any trap because at that point its already an OTK vs trap builds 7/10 times.
Eh? Honestly I don't think its unfair, the down sides are really clear. The downsides just don't matter if you're a deck that entirely relies on traps as interaction and face against a faster deck that have hard to stop otk lines. Reboot is more used for stopping turn skip traps more than anything else honestly. Well that and dealing with set 5 antimeta decks which are usually cancerous as hell anyways.
the reasoning of “bring back colossus he has so many outs!” and then naming all the things that also out ariseheart (moon, Imperm, eclipse, etc…) while asking for ariseheart to be banned is really funny.
I think purely needs to get also the hit of sleepy memory to 1. The fact of having a towers plus drawing bunch of cards with rhe possibility of hts. Just insane
So for this.. the deck already took a hit & just got new support. We are trying to have these newer decks be playable & shine a bit more without the older clutter of the previous format decks. Purrely has plenty of counters. Book of moon, eclipse, thrust, Herold of abyss, kiajus, crow..
@@Timikator book of moon, book of eclipse, thrust, herald of the abyss.. all of these cards out it without giving them any cards back. Trust me.. as a purrely player it happens more than you’d think 🥲
You guys Really Hit The Mark here your Ban List Prediction here is Very Accurate, Bring back the Best Cards like Orcust Harp Horror and Thunder Dragon Colossus, I am a Thunder Dragon Player at Heart and I will stand by it!!
If Red Reboot only halted one trap, I'd be fine with it coming back, but considering it completely shuts down trap-heavy decks with one card, I don't think it should ever come back. I would love to see a new hand trap introduced that interacts with trap activations without just saying "your opponent doesn't get to play their game."
Everything you just said is complete BS. Red Reboot was at 1 and not searchable so if they had it, they had it. How fair is it for you to set all your engine traps and floodgates or solemn cards and prevent me from playing MY game but it’s totally ok for you to play yours ? You got it all twisted
@@SwagMaster824 I am adamantly anti floodgate and think they also need to be banned because, like red reboot, instead of interacting with a point of interaction, it blanket shuts down a primary function of the deck. Those cards are anti fun and shouldn't be in the game.
EEV is not the real problem at all, is just a very specific answer to the current meta. It could even be said you could counter it with Red Reboot. Trollmoney won't resist selling Prismatic The Bysstial Lubellion or the other Bysstials, for them to be limited, it's been ages since a banlist was really made truly for the game. I kept expecting/waiting the breakfast part of the video, it was a very cool thing from you in previous installments of Breakfast & Banlists~ nwn
Red Reboot is banned so we don’t really have much of an answer to erad currently besides crossout. Erad was never a fair card but the requirements it took were way heavier when the card first released years ago than it is today. Konami or Upper Deck or whoever designed the card never accounted for future meta games more than 15 years later where said requirements are extremely easy and able to be tutored out of your deck.
We Defiantly need another slaughter banlist like the end of 2019 with the likes of salad, thunder , Orcust and striker all effectively taking the L. Kash should have never been a thing to begin with.
2 things. With cooclock, if its banned, lab players might wind up teching in temple of the kings. It is no where near a one-for-one replacement, but opening it will still allow for the immediate activation of a set trap. 2: branded is falling out. Semi-limit the fusion, ban lost, and i think thats enough to keep it down, but not out. Oh...and ban the puppet
@Chikayuki the difference between these and puppet is, that if you don't have a bystial/d.d. crow/ghost belle, it's impossible to play around. The others, you can get rid of them to remove the lock. Puppet lingers despite being on the field or not.
@Chikayuki minor differences. Orthros locks into fiends, so certain matchups, that effect is irrelevant. Also, puppet being a level 8 also has its niche uses in branded that orthros doesn't give, depending on the build/extra deck options one is using. Not saying it's a good idea to keep it around, but orthros is also ran in an actual archetypal deck, while gimmick puppets have never seen the light of competitive play in its entire existence
1. I can’t wait until they hit 1M Subscribers, they deserve it with these edits and quality of videos we’re getting. 2. Logan is just too funny lmao had me dying throughout the whole video. And she fine af 3. Great choice for a Banlist. I highly agree with everything they chose 4. Being back Colossus! 🐉💜
I hope arise heart stays in the game (not a kash player) Traps are supposed to take a turn yet imperm is allowed to be activated from hand Bystial lub just got a QCR and it gets a reprint in the tins if arise was to be banned the other kash need to be at 2-3 otherwise the deck will die and they are reprinting them in the tins I can see purrely getting hit again and possibly lab. I do not think the banlist will be so huge but we will see.
One card that could have come off the banlist to 1 for about a year at least right now is Electrumite. Pendulum is such a "why would you even play this" mechanic right now and Electrumite would really help give it some time in the sun. Specially since Konami is making more pendulum archtypes that dont fix in a "pendulum soup deck". Shoutouts to my boy Z-ARC getting new support in Age of Overlord. Also Tidal and Redox could very easily go to 1 without any problems. Dragons have enough engines nowadays (I'd know I play dragons whenever I can) and nobody cares about a -1 mill or reborn.
I think eradicator is fine at 1. Could just be the fact Runick and Lab is a thing, so if those take a hit to be knocked down on the tier list, Eradicator may see different play or no play
Idk.. EEV has won multiple events on its own in decks that aren’t just lab. It’s a hand rip for 5 at times & just not a fair card. No matter the deck playing it.. it’s either 3 or 0.
Rather than unbanning a toxic card like colossus, can we ask Konami for a new thunder dragon boss for the deck? One that's cool and interactive (or helps the decks grind game, imagine a Dis Pater type of effect of recycling banished TD's and banishing others). I would much prefer that than their floodgate on legs
As a Rikka Sunavalon player, I'm just sitting back relaxing sippin' on my coffee smiling.....No but seriously Arise-Heart has to go, and fully agree with Logan almost every deck is playing Fenrir like seriously
It’s crazy that everything in this list is not even debatable there’s so much happening in this format all these decks and blowouts need to be addressed. Even as a dragon player I even agree the house party def needs to be cleaned out ASAPPP!! Btw that coffee looks fire 🔥 lol
FREE MOMMY DRIDENT I think Reboot should be at 3 or 0. I think if Barrier continues to be a problem, instead of unhitting Reboot, just ban Barrier and Eradicator tbh
Love the copium on this list 😂 D barrier is fair to stop the rest of the turn skip decks. Skill drain is fine at 3 it doesn't top outside of regionals Prosperity needs the desire treatment drop it to 1 then later maybe 2
Skill Drain isn't banned in MD. It's at limit 1, just like in OCG. Just wanted to clarify. I've been hard coping on Harp to 1 for years. It'll come in time for Horus Orcust meta, trust no copium.
My banlist prediction (only the hits) is: BANNED Arise-Heart / Puppet / Eradicator / Birth LIMITED Lubellion / Magnamuth / Jet / Dryas / Unicorn / Tip / Sleepy Memory / Dbarrier SEMI-LIMITED Brafu / Opening / Prosperity / Fenrir Have my reasoning for all these choices, especially that Dbarrier at 1
I wholeheartedly agree with kash needing to be hit. It’s not fair that it is ridiculously easy to bring out a boss monster that just ends the game unless you have a very specific draw, and even then it might not be enough to get rid of it. I feel like spright elf needed to be banned, but I don’t understand how the same company allows arise heart to stay in the game when it’s way more punishing than elf IMO.
Sorry but putting Fenrir to 1 is just a bad move. Just because it's a splashable card doesn't mean it needs to be hit. If anything, put it to 2, so it can still at least be useful, but not at 100%.
Hot Red Dragon Archfiend King Calamity isn't going to be hit. He's in the Jack Atlus structure deck thing coming out. They don't typically hit cards that will be in decks too soon. I know he's been out forever now, but they won't touch him.
Shock master, Rongo Bongo, Azathot, Number S0, Calamities (VFD), Calamities part two electric boogaloo (HRDAKC), Kali Yuga next to be problematic? WHEN WILL THEY LEARN!
I really think cards like Super Poly should be banned or at 3 not because they’re sacky exactly but they’re either okay or they’re not. Is getting Superpolied 13% of time fine? But as a prediction it works.
d. Barrier is fine. wiretap is a thing to stop trap cards. red reboot should come back to help manage backrow decks too. no one is playing jinzo. i rather have a turn skip versus not being able to play every single turn due to my opponent having a 7 plus negation board that keeps negating my card effects every single turn.
Only thing I disagree with are making decks unplayable. Obviously, if a deck is overpowered hit them and hit them good. But I’d rather see other decks that are hit on the banlist like salamangreat/thunder/ orcust etc to have they’re cards come back making them better able to compete
Dimensional Barrier is not the issue. The issue is Konami making decks that are specifically using only one extra deck type of monster, but these decks at the moment are top of the Meta. So no, Barrier does not need hit and will fall out of favour when Konami gives us different decks on top of the meta that does not do this. Shifter also doesn't need hit. Gee Wilikers if only we had.. More of that card you wanted banned for so long, Called by the Grave? :P Which I've said foreverrrrrr wasn't as oppressive as you were making it out to be but WOULD solve oppressive cards like Shifter. Also, if Kash goes, Shifter would sink way back from the meta since so few decks actually play it right now outside of Kash. I also hate this notion, where Yu-Gi-Oh is fun if it's a 'back and forth' game. Yeah that's fine here there and maybe half the time but Yu-Gi-Oh would get incredibly boring and you think Yu-Gi-Oh players complain now? People complain about Runick but it's refreshing, it's a different way to tackle the game mechanics. We need more of this. It slows down the game, which isn't that a problem that the game is too fast? I am not asking for full turn skips, but Shifter isn't a turn skip. You just will most likely end on a less than ideal board. Same with Droll, Ash, or any of them. These are good things. I also HATE 'this deck has been around too long' argument. It means people like the deck and want to keep playing it. I am so against just cutting the heads off decks, especially because of this argument. I didn't even play Prank-Kids but was upset when they got rid of Meow-Mu. I had two friends that played locals every week, and loved Prank-Kids. And ever since the banning? They haven't shown up to locals since. I understand if a card or deck is doing something outrageously strong but Prank-Kids wasn't (it does nothing in the OCG and they have two Meow-Mu) and Dragon Link isn't now. It has also waxed and waned in certain formats, going dormant for long periods of time. I don't even play that deck either, but leave that alone.
When it comes to modern yugioh I honestly don’t see a point in a ban list. Turns end in 2-3 turns anyway and most games are decided on the die roll. I say just start releasing cards back in the game let players enjoy the cards they want to play.
I believe that D barrier is OK in the game and to really hit dragon link I believe you should ban magnamut. This cuts u off adding any dragon in the end phase and you would have to hard draw the other bystials
Konami could ban thrust and I'd still draw 2. Love the list, personally I would really like red reboot to 1 unless Konomi prints a spin off of it like they did with called by. Realistically, there's still blue and green reboot they could make if they wanted to follow the whole striker color scheme.
i agree with all except reboot it freaking stupid auto win vs trap decks, unless they errata it to say it dont prevent other traps from activating this turn just play trap stun or royal decree and leave it banned
I am sick of every one saying arise heart to ban u can Imperm it u can dark hole it raigeki it u can tribute it and also I'm sick of the argument because a deck has been around for awhile ban it some people can't afford decks when they first come out and have to wait for the prices to come down there are plenty of ways for ariseheart to be delt with it's not a problem
Foolish burial to semi- limit Monster reborn to 3 no one plays this card? Also called by the grave to 2 it seem like a fun card to have... Fun video cheers ..
Honestly, I haven't played this format. Attending locals felt like a waste of time when every other game was macro-drident pass, or flip skill drain, or watch runick fountain draw three (somehow Ariseheart annoys me less than fountain; really not sure how that works).
Adding this on: I've been playing MTG commander instead lately. Something about having 4-players is simply so much more fun. I'm going to try to see if they'd be interested trying a multi-player version of trinity format I've been thinking about.
Prosperity should be limited, not semi and the reason for this is that it takes care of so much engine bullshit that you see in this format, plus it is not fair sculpting your hand a bit to find the answer. Ariseheart ban I fully agree with it turns kashtira away from its floodgate, and it lowers that engine, sleepy memory should be limited, but I argue that the biggest problem with purrely is noir, so here is an unconventional hit, but ban purreleap instead of sleepy memory limit, leap prevents the noir on your turn, it prevents the draw 6, it forces them to make a noir on their turn, which would have a much easier time to remove. Branded fusion should go to 1, but also throw nightmare on the banned section if we are talking about turn skips. Now for my biggest wishlist, FREE MAH BOI CIRCULAR HE DID NOTHING WRONG!!!
Definitely feeling like the upcoming list isnt going to be too big. Hit the super annoying stuff, wait for the first list of next year for the massacre to get their money off of rarity collection. I WANT super poly banned, but with the yubel support searching it, 1 is the best were gonna get. Skill drain can go completely, makes me want to put my head through the wall. Same with shifter. Whatever happens, im picking up T.G from age of overlord
You could also make the argument that shutting off the entire graveyard is far more powerful that stopping searching.. and it’s only searching not drawing. Also, for what it’s worth.. you actually can’t droplet ariseheart
3:30 considering how each set makes the game less and less Interactive idk Otherwise i agree but i think unicorn can stay at 2 and fenrir can be at one but thats just me
I'm actually in favor of a bigger banlist that slows the game down to more than 3 turns. I would also limit Chaos Space, Quick Launch, E-Teli, Cynet Mining, Fossil Dig, Pot of Prosperity, Triple Tactics Thrust. Ban Baronne, and probably some other cards that I can't think of.
Will never understand why people want ban list rotations. Like D-link being playable for years is a feature of YGO not a bug. In mtg we have the non-rotating Modern format. Modern is the most popular competitive format an nothing is even close. At the last Pro Tour(NAWCQ equivalent) the room was full of Tron, a deck that picked up in popularity in 2011. The difference in mindset about rotating via bans between the two games is wild.
When even is the last time we had a triple chunk chocolate chip banlist like this? I love these predictions so much, even hitting Skill Drain and bringing back Reboot, but the list is a TLDR for Konami.
Lol we 110% understand. It’s a ton to ask for… that’s why it’s wish list, predictions & the internets takes all in one. That being said, wasn’t the last list massive 👀
I think it’s a bit too much to bring back reboot even at 1, it gives the possibility to destroy trap based decks in just one move and as a huge Lair of Darkness lover this would make me feel a little upset. To me it’s ok touching Eradicator or D Barrier just to stop players from using them in almost every deck. I would like to se a banlist where things gets at least balanced a bit, up to Konami though.
D shifter is the king of turn skippers 😂😂😂😂😂 ban that fraudulent game breaking card. yall said it yourselves multiple times that games are ending by turn 3. so who cares if u dont see shifter after turn 0. you either win by drawing it turn 1 or try to win normally without it
I dont think dimensional barrier is a problem Yes if you know what your opponent is playing it is can be devastating but most decks can Do all mechanics Fusion Synchro Xyz And link so it really doesnt matter if u shut off 1 mechanic Im planning on playing salamangreat and if u stop salamangreat from xyz they just link climb to accesscode talker and otk you any way Yes dimensional barrier is a good side deck but the only deck that is main decking it may be labrynth
While this might be true for you’re deck.. barrier doesn’t include link. Can you imagine if it did? That’s how it feels for Purrely, Branded, chimera, kash.. etc.. it’s an entire turn skip. The card promoted not playing at all. These types of cards just aren’t healthy. It’s is a mandatory 3 of in every side.. main deck or not.. it’s still a turn/game ender
@@CrushCards I also play Cyber dragons aswell and I'm known as the cyber dragon player at my locals and they have to choose whether to call xyz or fusion Most of the time I opt to go second with cyber dragons if I win the dice roll and I'm going to try and break your board and otk but so if they choose fusion yes it hurts but they still have to deal with a omni negate and me breaking their boards And being in the uk our locals is like regionals and ycs very competitive and everybody playing the best decks
So If you ban arise heart why limit unicorn? Fenrir at some point to 1 I get it but it's a tin print. So a semi limit if they hit it. Same with lubellion tin reprint. Can get behind mag but people woukd still want lubellions
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Rogue decks basically cannot play with your dream list.
@@anthonysulpizio2269 we have already sort of responded but this isn’t our “dream list” this is what we think Konami is most likely to do. We hate to say it but Konami doesn’t care about rogue decks.. they want to sell products. Changing the meta is what does that.
If our purple kid comes back I think we'd NEED to ban corridor since everything these days is getting banished.
@@KSprites then everybody who'll cry like: "BUt tHeN eVErYbODY wILL pLAy Colossus." will be no more hopefully. 🤞😌
Ronintoadin to 3 please I'm begging
Cooclock is a terrible hit imo. Hitting clock immediately invalidates ikea. This means that the best lab deck will be floodgate again.
Also they should make a trap negate hand trap thats not a floodgate. Reboot was a horribly designed card. Its a floodgate that nobody recognizes as a floodgate, because it hits trap decks. Lich and lab arent fun, but we are getting new centurion cards soon, and reboot slaughters that deck.
And for the reboot topic we need a retrain/errata
I don't believe it needs to lock opponents out of traps for the TURN in exchange for setting any trap because at that point its already an OTK vs trap builds 7/10 times.
Eh? Honestly I don't think its unfair, the down sides are really clear. The downsides just don't matter if you're a deck that entirely relies on traps as interaction and face against a faster deck that have hard to stop otk lines.
Reboot is more used for stopping turn skip traps more than anything else honestly. Well that and dealing with set 5 antimeta decks which are usually cancerous as hell anyways.
the reasoning of “bring back colossus he has so many outs!” and then naming all the things that also out ariseheart (moon, Imperm, eclipse, etc…) while asking for ariseheart to be banned is really funny.
Thats the point of the bit. which is why i say it.
@@CrushCardsto be fair I should’ve finished the video before typing this comment out, my bad! 🖤
I think purely needs to get also the hit of sleepy memory to 1. The fact of having a towers plus drawing bunch of cards with rhe possibility of hts. Just insane
So for this.. the deck already took a hit & just got new support. We are trying to have these newer decks be playable & shine a bit more without the older clutter of the previous format decks. Purrely has plenty of counters. Book of moon, eclipse, thrust, Herold of abyss, kiajus, crow..
And even if the tower gets outed, he goes +5 for no reason, on top of the draw 6
@@Timikator book of moon, book of eclipse, thrust, herald of the abyss.. all of these cards out it without giving them any cards back. Trust me.. as a purrely player it happens more than you’d think 🥲
You guys Really Hit The Mark here your Ban List Prediction here is Very Accurate, Bring back the Best Cards like Orcust Harp Horror and Thunder Dragon Colossus, I am a Thunder Dragon Player at Heart and I will stand by it!!
I really like your list! Rarely seen such a realistic list tbh. Only addition would be some changes for Dragon Rulers :D
True!! Thank you so much!!
Yeah especially if you limit the power of the rest of the dragon link engine. Free those boys
If Red Reboot only halted one trap, I'd be fine with it coming back, but considering it completely shuts down trap-heavy decks with one card, I don't think it should ever come back. I would love to see a new hand trap introduced that interacts with trap activations without just saying "your opponent doesn't get to play their game."
So red reboot shutting down traps isn't ok, but set 5 pass activate d barrier or drop a droll on my first search is fair? Lol
Everything you just said is complete BS. Red Reboot was at 1 and not searchable so if they had it, they had it. How fair is it for you to set all your engine traps and floodgates or solemn cards and prevent me from playing MY game but it’s totally ok for you to play yours ? You got it all twisted
@@SwagMaster824 I am adamantly anti floodgate and think they also need to be banned because, like red reboot, instead of interacting with a point of interaction, it blanket shuts down a primary function of the deck. Those cards are anti fun and shouldn't be in the game.
Called by to 3, red reboot to 1, max c to 1, elf to 1, ban merli like MD and ban all kashtira, BRING ON THE CHAOS!!! Shifter and d barrier to 1
EEV is not the real problem at all, is just a very specific answer to the current meta. It could even be said you could counter it with Red Reboot.
Trollmoney won't resist selling Prismatic The Bysstial Lubellion or the other Bysstials, for them to be limited, it's been ages since a banlist was really made truly for the game.
I kept expecting/waiting the breakfast part of the video, it was a very cool thing from you in previous installments of Breakfast & Banlists~ nwn
Red Reboot is banned so we don’t really have much of an answer to erad currently besides crossout. Erad was never a fair card but the requirements it took were way heavier when the card first released years ago than it is today. Konami or Upper Deck or whoever designed the card never accounted for future meta games more than 15 years later where said requirements are extremely easy and able to be tutored out of your deck.
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We Defiantly need another slaughter banlist like the end of 2019 with the likes of salad, thunder , Orcust and striker all effectively taking the L.
Kash should have never been a thing to begin with.
2 things. With cooclock, if its banned, lab players might wind up teching in temple of the kings. It is no where near a one-for-one replacement, but opening it will still allow for the immediate activation of a set trap.
2: branded is falling out. Semi-limit the fusion, ban lost, and i think thats enough to keep it down, but not out. Oh...and ban the puppet
So ban Disciple of Ra, D/D Cerberus, Ido the Supreme Magical Force, and each of those monster ?
@Chikayuki the difference between these and puppet is, that if you don't have a bystial/d.d. crow/ghost belle, it's impossible to play around. The others, you can get rid of them to remove the lock. Puppet lingers despite being on the field or not.
@@warriorofgod2700 orthros and puppet works exactly the same way 🤨
@Chikayuki minor differences. Orthros locks into fiends, so certain matchups, that effect is irrelevant. Also, puppet being a level 8 also has its niche uses in branded that orthros doesn't give, depending on the build/extra deck options one is using.
Not saying it's a good idea to keep it around, but orthros is also ran in an actual archetypal deck, while gimmick puppets have never seen the light of competitive play in its entire existence
1. I can’t wait until they hit 1M Subscribers, they deserve it with these edits and quality of videos we’re getting.
2. Logan is just too funny lmao had me dying throughout the whole video. And she fine af
3. Great choice for a Banlist. I highly agree with everything they chose
4. Being back Colossus! 🐉💜
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I hope arise heart stays in the game (not a kash player)
Traps are supposed to take a turn yet imperm is allowed to be activated from hand
Bystial lub just got a QCR and it gets a reprint in the tins
if arise was to be banned the other kash need to be at 2-3 otherwise the deck will die and they are reprinting them in the tins
I can see purrely getting hit again and possibly lab. I do not think the banlist will be so huge but we will see.
I love the new artwork of Logan and Bryan plus the pacas it was very creative 🥰😍
One card that could have come off the banlist to 1 for about a year at least right now is Electrumite. Pendulum is such a "why would you even play this" mechanic right now and Electrumite would really help give it some time in the sun. Specially since Konami is making more pendulum archtypes that dont fix in a "pendulum soup deck". Shoutouts to my boy Z-ARC getting new support in Age of Overlord.
Also Tidal and Redox could very easily go to 1 without any problems. Dragons have enough engines nowadays (I'd know I play dragons whenever I can) and nobody cares about a -1 mill or reborn.
I think eradicator is fine at 1. Could just be the fact Runick and Lab is a thing, so if those take a hit to be knocked down on the tier list, Eradicator may see different play or no play
Idk.. EEV has won multiple events on its own in decks that aren’t just lab. It’s a hand rip for 5 at times & just not a fair card. No matter the deck playing it.. it’s either 3 or 0.
Eradicator won the N/A WCQ. Like, solo'd it. The cards gotta go
Rather than unbanning a toxic card like colossus, can we ask Konami for a new thunder dragon boss for the deck? One that's cool and interactive (or helps the decks grind game, imagine a Dis Pater type of effect of recycling banished TD's and banishing others). I would much prefer that than their floodgate on legs
As a Rikka Sunavalon player, I'm just sitting back relaxing sippin' on my coffee smiling.....No but seriously Arise-Heart has to go, and fully agree with Logan almost every deck is playing Fenrir like seriously
Rikka is definitely gonnna get hit
It’s crazy that everything in this list is not even debatable there’s so much happening in this format all these decks and blowouts need to be addressed. Even as a dragon player I even agree the house party def needs to be cleaned out ASAPPP!! Btw that coffee looks fire 🔥 lol
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I think Reboot should be at 3 or 0. I think if Barrier continues to be a problem, instead of unhitting Reboot, just ban Barrier and Eradicator tbh
This!
This was quite literally like watching our last session but in video form lol
Love the copium on this list 😂
D barrier is fair to stop the rest of the turn skip decks.
Skill drain is fine at 3 it doesn't top outside of regionals
Prosperity needs the desire treatment drop it to 1 then later maybe 2
Anything you can do to Colossus, you can do you Arise heart right? Just asking.
If they limit BF so many budget players will be pissed
Hey guys, it was great seeing you at your home turf , can’t wait to see you guys again
I'm here again *shuffles soap box* TD Colossus to 1, Master Peace to 1, Harp Horror to 1. That is all. Thank you.
Respectfully @crushcards… you guys know I love you but bringing back Colossus is almost as unhinged as unlocking the block.
Skill Drain isn't banned in MD. It's at limit 1, just like in OCG.
Just wanted to clarify.
I've been hard coping on Harp to 1 for years. It'll come in time for Horus Orcust meta, trust no copium.
Same thing lol 🤣 we don’t play master duel. The point is.. it’s not at 3
My banlist prediction (only the hits) is:
BANNED
Arise-Heart / Puppet / Eradicator / Birth
LIMITED
Lubellion / Magnamuth / Jet / Dryas / Unicorn / Tip / Sleepy Memory / Dbarrier
SEMI-LIMITED
Brafu / Opening / Prosperity / Fenrir
Have my reasoning for all these choices, especially that Dbarrier at 1
Called By to 2 sounds fun.
I’m wondering how Swordsoul is gonna do post banlist
FULLY AGREE! Tired of pretty much all these cards not allowing people to play.
That croc hunter cameo 🥰🥰😭😭
I wholeheartedly agree with kash needing to be hit. It’s not fair that it is ridiculously easy to bring out a boss monster that just ends the game unless you have a very specific draw, and even then it might not be enough to get rid of it. I feel like spright elf needed to be banned, but I don’t understand how the same company allows arise heart to stay in the game when it’s way more punishing than elf IMO.
my unchained deck seeing your list: "it's my time"
dark world hand rip and then 10 minute turn is overpowered either you have droll or lose
Spright is good but not too good I feel like it’s the runick engine that makes it good
guys what do you think of block dragon? Is there a chance to be atleast limited and finally give the chance to adamancipator to be a decent deck?
Sorry but putting Fenrir to 1 is just a bad move. Just because it's a splashable card doesn't mean it needs to be hit. If anything, put it to 2, so it can still at least be useful, but not at 100%.
It’s literally a better pank.. that cards at 1.. it only makes sense.
@@CrushCards then why can't pank come back to 3? I see no issue with either being at 3 tbh 🤷🏽♂️
@@lioganda this is where we agree to just disagree 😅
@@CrushCards one of the issues with the game right now, imo, is going second. Why can't we get more going second tools to help break boards?
"Hit dragons as a deck altogether." This is something we have been saying in YGO since the beginning, and will forever do so.
Well it's a little bit past 5pm where I live, and I know people that have breakfast at this time lol
Hot Red Dragon Archfiend King Calamity isn't going to be hit. He's in the Jack Atlus structure deck thing coming out. They don't typically hit cards that will be in decks too soon. I know he's been out forever now, but they won't touch him.
Shock master, Rongo Bongo, Azathot, Number S0, Calamities (VFD), Calamities part two electric boogaloo (HRDAKC), Kali Yuga next to be problematic?
WHEN WILL THEY LEARN!
I really think cards like Super Poly should be banned or at 3 not because they’re sacky exactly but they’re either okay or they’re not. Is getting Superpolied 13% of time fine? But as a prediction it works.
d. Barrier is fine. wiretap is a thing to stop trap cards. red reboot should come back to help manage backrow decks too. no one is playing jinzo. i rather have a turn skip versus not being able to play every single turn due to my opponent having a 7 plus negation board that keeps negating my card effects every single turn.
As a lab player, I felt it was personal the firsts minutes of the video, still love you
Love you too! Only Konami has the final say. We are just speaking thoughts. 😂
Dimension shifter Ban worthy any card that can skip turn as you mention is ban worthy and this card is another one of those cards
Very out of character thumbnail for the channel :o. The blur isn't even that well hidden :o.
Figured we’d spice it up. 🥸
Only thing I disagree with are making decks unplayable. Obviously, if a deck is overpowered hit them and hit them good. But I’d rather see other decks that are hit on the banlist like salamangreat/thunder/ orcust etc to have they’re cards come back making them better able to compete
Dimensional Barrier is not the issue. The issue is Konami making decks that are specifically using only one extra deck type of monster, but these decks at the moment are top of the Meta. So no, Barrier does not need hit and will fall out of favour when Konami gives us different decks on top of the meta that does not do this. Shifter also doesn't need hit. Gee Wilikers if only we had.. More of that card you wanted banned for so long, Called by the Grave? :P Which I've said foreverrrrrr wasn't as oppressive as you were making it out to be but WOULD solve oppressive cards like Shifter. Also, if Kash goes, Shifter would sink way back from the meta since so few decks actually play it right now outside of Kash. I also hate this notion, where Yu-Gi-Oh is fun if it's a 'back and forth' game. Yeah that's fine here there and maybe half the time but Yu-Gi-Oh would get incredibly boring and you think Yu-Gi-Oh players complain now? People complain about Runick but it's refreshing, it's a different way to tackle the game mechanics. We need more of this. It slows down the game, which isn't that a problem that the game is too fast? I am not asking for full turn skips, but Shifter isn't a turn skip. You just will most likely end on a less than ideal board. Same with Droll, Ash, or any of them. These are good things. I also HATE 'this deck has been around too long' argument. It means people like the deck and want to keep playing it. I am so against just cutting the heads off decks, especially because of this argument. I didn't even play Prank-Kids but was upset when they got rid of Meow-Mu. I had two friends that played locals every week, and loved Prank-Kids. And ever since the banning? They haven't shown up to locals since. I understand if a card or deck is doing something outrageously strong but Prank-Kids wasn't (it does nothing in the OCG and they have two Meow-Mu) and Dragon Link isn't now. It has also waxed and waned in certain formats, going dormant for long periods of time. I don't even play that deck either, but leave that alone.
When it comes to modern yugioh I honestly don’t see a point in a ban list. Turns end in 2-3 turns anyway and most games are decided on the die roll. I say just start releasing cards back in the game let players enjoy the cards they want to play.
Don’t ban Cooclock, that’s just unwarranted. Take D. Barrier, but don’t mess with my clock.
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I believe that D barrier is OK in the game and to really hit dragon link I believe you should ban magnamut. This cuts u off adding any dragon in the end phase and you would have to hard draw the other bystials
first locals after colossus got banned I pulled an ultimate rare colossus
Oh my god 🥺
"Dimensional Barrier is a turn skip card"
"We need red reboot back"
Turn skip is fine if you are against Labyrinth and Eldlich I guess.
110%! Don’t forget rescue ace too ;)
I have an idea for a deck profile, but I have no idea if you would like it.
Sekka's Light to 3. Done.
I mean if they dont unban Collosus with Fenrir at 3, looks like they will not unban that card
Konami could ban thrust and I'd still draw 2. Love the list, personally I would really like red reboot to 1 unless Konomi prints a spin off of it like they did with called by. Realistically, there's still blue and green reboot they could make if they wanted to follow the whole striker color scheme.
i agree with all except reboot it freaking stupid auto win vs trap decks, unless they errata it to say it dont prevent other traps from activating this turn just play trap stun or royal decree and leave it banned
I am sick of every one saying arise heart to ban u can Imperm it u can dark hole it raigeki it u can tribute it and also I'm sick of the argument because a deck has been around for awhile ban it some people can't afford decks when they first come out and have to wait for the prices to come down there are plenty of ways for ariseheart to be delt with it's not a problem
Foolish burial to semi- limit Monster reborn to 3 no one plays this card? Also called by the grave to 2 it seem like a fun card to have... Fun video cheers ..
I miss my Elpy. He was such a good little boy
Skill Drain is at 1 in Master Duel, btw.
Also, runick Fountain should go to 1, as well.
Yeah I realized after the fact 🤣 1, banned, just not at 3 🤣🤣
@@CrushCards....😎😑😑..
Message to Konami employee reading comments after watching this banger: Bring back Master Peace, you cowards.
I feel like all floodgates need to be banned/limited depending on its oppressiveness
Funny enough your list was my list on twitch at like 11am today. I said lubellion to 0
I like the ban picks but I think skill drain needs eliminated and droll and d barrier is a necessary evil right now for all other decks
I don't think branded fusion needs to go to 1, especially since it's just like shaddoll fusion, which never got hit
Collosus can only come back if Corridor gets banned or else every deck will play him
Honestly, I haven't played this format. Attending locals felt like a waste of time when every other game was macro-drident pass, or flip skill drain, or watch runick fountain draw three (somehow Ariseheart annoys me less than fountain; really not sure how that works).
Adding this on: I've been playing MTG commander instead lately. Something about having 4-players is simply so much more fun. I'm going to try to see if they'd be interested trying a multi-player version of trinity format I've been thinking about.
Prosperity should be limited, not semi and the reason for this is that it takes care of so much engine bullshit that you see in this format, plus it is not fair sculpting your hand a bit to find the answer. Ariseheart ban I fully agree with it turns kashtira away from its floodgate, and it lowers that engine, sleepy memory should be limited, but I argue that the biggest problem with purrely is noir, so here is an unconventional hit, but ban purreleap instead of sleepy memory limit, leap prevents the noir on your turn, it prevents the draw 6, it forces them to make a noir on their turn, which would have a much easier time to remove. Branded fusion should go to 1, but also throw nightmare on the banned section if we are talking about turn skips. Now for my biggest wishlist, FREE MAH BOI CIRCULAR HE DID NOTHING WRONG!!!
Definitely feeling like the upcoming list isnt going to be too big. Hit the super annoying stuff, wait for the first list of next year for the massacre to get their money off of rarity collection.
I WANT super poly banned, but with the yubel support searching it, 1 is the best were gonna get.
Skill drain can go completely, makes me want to put my head through the wall. Same with shifter.
Whatever happens, im picking up T.G from age of overlord
You say how you can Impermanence, droplets, dark ruler etc to colossus. Techinally ariseheart gets shut down by the same thing.
You could also make the argument that shutting off the entire graveyard is far more powerful that stopping searching.. and it’s only searching not drawing. Also, for what it’s worth.. you actually can’t droplet ariseheart
Still waiting on that misc to be set free…at least to 2😩
nemesis corridor would have to be banned for colossus to ever come back.
Nemesis Corridor is running free in Masterduel with Colossus at 1 and it is not doing anything. it will be fine.
11:27 Mics to 2
I loooove the new profile
Thank you! We do as well! Kraus is such an amazing artist! 💞
Dino need Misc to 3 or atleast 2, they aren't an issue right now
FINALLY THE BANLIST WITH MOM AND DAD ❤❤❤
Colossus is fine at 1 when nemesis corridor is banned
3:30 considering how each set makes the game less and less Interactive idk
Otherwise i agree but i think unicorn can stay at 2 and fenrir can be at one but thats just me
This list needs to be huge.... this is so fun now xD
I'm actually in favor of a bigger banlist that slows the game down to more than 3 turns. I would also limit Chaos Space, Quick Launch, E-Teli, Cynet Mining, Fossil Dig, Pot of Prosperity, Triple Tactics Thrust. Ban Baronne, and probably some other cards that I can't think of.
So what ur saying is u play rogue
@@t_wrecks7249 I’m saying I don’t like how fast the game is these days.
currently at 3:55 pls dont limit fountain, tip, or hugin pls Crush Cards ily dont do this to me
Edit: 7:40 NOOOO you did the smart hit
😭
Will never understand why people want ban list rotations.
Like D-link being playable for years is a feature of YGO not a bug.
In mtg we have the non-rotating Modern format. Modern is the most popular competitive format an nothing is even close. At the last Pro Tour(NAWCQ equivalent) the room was full of Tron, a deck that picked up in popularity in 2011. The difference in mindset about rotating via bans between the two games is wild.
Dimensional barrier does to let you play dimensional barrier should not be banned either none of the trap cards you mentioned so far should b-band
When even is the last time we had a triple chunk chocolate chip banlist like this? I love these predictions so much, even hitting Skill Drain and bringing back Reboot, but the list is a TLDR for Konami.
Lol we 110% understand. It’s a ton to ask for… that’s why it’s wish list, predictions & the internets takes all in one. That being said, wasn’t the last list massive 👀
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I think it’s a bit too much to bring back reboot even at 1, it gives the possibility to destroy trap based decks in just one move and as a huge Lair of Darkness lover this would make me feel a little upset. To me it’s ok touching Eradicator or D Barrier just to stop players from using them in almost every deck. I would like to se a banlist where things gets at least balanced a bit, up to Konami though.
D shifter is the king of turn skippers 😂😂😂😂😂 ban that fraudulent game breaking card. yall said it yourselves multiple times that games are ending by turn 3. so who cares if u dont see shifter after turn 0. you either win by drawing it turn 1 or try to win normally without it
I dont think dimensional barrier is a problem
Yes if you know what your opponent is playing it is can be devastating but most decks can
Do all mechanics
Fusion
Synchro
Xyz
And link so it really doesnt matter if u shut off 1 mechanic
Im planning on playing salamangreat and if u stop salamangreat from xyz they just link climb to accesscode talker and otk you any way
Yes dimensional barrier is a good side deck but the only deck that is main decking it may be labrynth
While this might be true for you’re deck.. barrier doesn’t include link. Can you imagine if it did? That’s how it feels for Purrely, Branded, chimera, kash.. etc.. it’s an entire turn skip. The card promoted not playing at all. These types of cards just aren’t healthy. It’s is a mandatory 3 of in every side.. main deck or not.. it’s still a turn/game ender
@@CrushCards I also play Cyber dragons aswell and I'm known as the cyber dragon player at my locals and they have to choose whether to call xyz or fusion
Most of the time I opt to go second with cyber dragons if I win the dice roll and I'm going to try and break your board and otk but so if they choose fusion yes it hurts but they still have to deal with a omni negate and me breaking their boards
And being in the uk our locals is like regionals and ycs very competitive and everybody playing the best decks
So
If you ban arise heart why limit unicorn?
Fenrir at some point to 1 I get it but it's a tin print. So a semi limit if they hit it.
Same with lubellion tin reprint. Can get behind mag but people woukd still want lubellions
Unicorn, and Fenrir are just better Pankratops. If the worse version is at 1, why not put the better ones on the same status
I agree to red reboot going back to one
Mystic mine to 1 or maxx c. We need an answer to these crazy decks
Kashtira arise heart need to go bye bye for good if I play my black rose deck against it it will kill Ruddy rose
All dragon rulers back to 3