If you care about your church. Give. It really is that simple. Greed makes it seem complicated. It doesnt have to be 10 percent, but it should be done faithfully and selflessly.
@@TaylorBibleGuy But aren't you both saying the same thing? Give to your church. You have decided you prefer a smaller home based church. And you say you prefer to give to your home based church. Why would you attend a home based church and give to a random church down the road? Nobody is suggesting you do that. I think you're really discussing your preference for a certain type of church and are somehow confabulating it into tithing/giving. Whatever church you belong to, give to support the work of that church.
@@heythere6983 1st of all it's by the generosity of the congregation not mandatory and is not require any percentage of income. 2nd you don't have to pay for Purgatory for anything whatsoever.
@@BlastToTheRescue okay so they do take money and yes many parishes support tithing, so its no different than protestants who sometimes do or dont offer a percentage. we all know the history of paying in regards of purgatory
Bedside baptist is crazy 😂 Just to add a small tithing testimony, I lost my job 4 months ago and never stopped tithing the entire time + continuing to serve in whatever capacity almost every week. Let me tell you something… even though I thought it was hard God took care of me as well as my family. We never missed a beat and still were able to praise Him through it all. Not only that, I’ve been given an opportunity to almost TRIPLE my income. I did the math, and every single penny I “missed” in the past 4 months I’ll make right back in no time. If you aren’t giving regularly, def consider it and test God in this area as He says in Malachi.
Pastor pillow is a new one to me. The college I attended had attendance requirements. There was a nearby church that was parodied by students that slept in as Restmore (as opposed to Westmoor) church. It the mumbled Bedsprings Baptist (a message Baptist Church is similar name). I understand wanting to require the students to have a good grounding for a Church run University, but it really doesn't work in the long run, even if you have to track attendance for school credit. I'm still glad I attended that university, and really appreciated having (mostly) believers for instructors and theology classes not run by atheist agnostics or pagans. Having many chapel stretches available per week was also nice, but the required attendance also has a disruptive affect, imo.
God certainly loves a cheerful giver and I'm glad you have been financially blessed. However, you are attributing to the wrong thing. God sustained you due to being generous and not due to "tithing". Malachi is specifically about Israel and specificlaly about food tithing. You can't take passages of scripture about one thing and just make it apply to something different. To offer a different testimony, when I finally realized the way tithing is done today was not biblical, I stopped. Yet, I'm making more and am in a better situation financially then when I thithed over 10% every week for years. How is this possible? It's because when I give now, I give to those less fortunate and sometimes the church as well. I give because I want to, not because I feel compelled to. I would encourage you to research what tithing is and actually read the context of all of the Bible verses used to back up modern tithing. You will find all of them are taken out of context or are conflating giving with tithing.
Give because you want to and not because you are commanded to. Giving your life to Jesus Christ voluntarily and allow Him to lead you in how much to give, who to give to, when to give and what to give. The principle of giving as shown by God in His giving is motivated by love and is never forced. No such thing as principle of tithing. Its always been the principle of giving that exist even from the beginning. Give as God gives. He blesses us first so we can bless. He loves us first so we can love. He fogives us first so we can forgive. We are blessed not because of our right doing but because of what Jesus Christ did. His life lived, life given and life resurrected is the reason we are blessed. To Him alone be the glory.
'No such thing as principle of tithing". Thank you. I bet that if Ruslan would have left the word 'tithing' alone and not browbeat people for giving less than 10%, he wouldn't have gotten the frosty reception. People don't mind being reminded to be generous, but they don't care for a 'holier than thou' attitude from someone teaching. I like Ruslan and would like to see him completely embrace the New Covenant spirit. Continuing to use the word 'tithe' at all should just cease. That's all.
@@thecatalysm5658 i think it would've been just as bad. We have very 'poor' friends who are 'believers in Christ' who just got engaged, have thousands in their savings, planning a wedding in another country and didn't have £1 for us when we asked. Yes we asked for £1, that's most people i met who are also Christians, they just pray for you😢
I cook for my church, serve. Looking to serve for special needs daycare at church. I dont got momey. Money is something wealthy rich people in city areas got. That aint me. My life is the lords. Lord aint given me money, but my heart, body, prayer, emotions, time, i still got lots of that.
Bother I will still encourage you to give with what you have, the amount doesn’t matter, the posture of the heart does, that being 50 cents or 1 thousand dollars. Just like the the story Widows Offering found in Mark 12:41-44
@@MGMG007i an reminded of Jesus' parable of the widow's mite. I've encouraged my nieces and nephews to start small, with skipping just one little cola or something. And be willing to stretch after praying about doing more. God is faithful.
It's not about affordability. It's knowing that God is the reason you made that income in the 1st place, and trusting that if you give Him 10%, He will still provide for you with the 90. Don't let money be an idol to you. It doesn't save or protect you, God does.
When I first began attending organized churches I felt unsure about tithing, but once I started embedding myself as a volunteer and close member of our church the question of whether to tithe and how much became clear as day. More Christians must confront their own covetousness with money, and they must dig into a community of believers.
“Now I say this: the one who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and the one who sows generously will also reap generously. Each one must do just as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. And God is able to make all grace overflow to you, so that, always having all sufficiency in everything, you may have an abundance for every good deed;” 2 Corinthians 9:6-8 NASB2020
I think a major issue is that this tithing principle is always taught from a self serving angle. Give to the Church and see how God blesses YOU. We never talk about how it blesses our community. Why do we need to see direct benefits in our lives for us to care? God is generous with you in all ways so you can give generously with no expectations of reciprocity.
My husband and I started tithing after we heard Dave Ramsey talk about it. The way he used the analogy of a closed fist and an open fist really helped.
Love this video. I keep seeing stuff about tithing. I am struggling to support my family and just scraping by but I still want to tithe. Your comment about "not giving to get" has resonated with me. I feel that I don't have my heart in it to trust the Lord with this when we are struggling and I feel that part of me thinks about tithing but only to get from God a blessing. Thank you for opening up this new idea for something I need to pray about. God bless
I appreciate your story and want to share my own in the hopes God uses it to bless others. For 2 years I haven’t been able to tithe consistently and every month I’d pray and it ate at my heart to not give to God what was his. This is not a boast of me but a praise and worship of how merciful God is in us. If God willed it I wish I could give 100% of what I have, because all that I have was a gift given from him. I have found that in my heart if I flip the financial graph upside down, and see that all that I have belongs to God, and how much has He planned and graced me to use to feed my family and to nourish these earthly bodies with shelter and heat and food. When I look at all being Gods and he gives me a portion of what he has, instead of looking at what I have as a portion to give to him. My heart craves to give as much as I can. These last two years, God knowing my heart, has not given me permission to give consistently until I watched this video and for the hundredth time prayed asking God if I can again start giving back to the church my finances. And he has finally said yes. Tithing is not just money, but even tithing all that we get, our spices, our time, work of our hands. Spending time with the lord and away from selfish things such as UA-cam or social media. Give God your first fruits of the day, even your first attention and time in the day. During the times where God has not allowed me to give financially, he has called me to abundantly out pour my TIME to service in his name. Every breath we take and skill we have, is a gift from God to use for His glory and praise. Again this is not about me, please do not think I am saying anything of myself but only sharing the beauty that God has shared with me in the offering of my whole self to the service of the Lord. I was once a slave to sin, condemned to death for he price that must be paid. Jesus paid my slave price, set me free, and called me to his name to become a Child of God. Serving him all the days of my life. No longer serving myself or the sins of this world, but serving God with our eyes fixed on His kingdom. God bless you all, praise his name
I wasn't great about the amount of giving but my husband is very generous. I finally had a spark and understood that if I wasn't willing to give it would fall onto everyone else at church. I knew after that everyone giving raises all of us up and doesn't make some over burdened. If you love your church you should want to take care of it. They are your family too.
The fact is the WE ARE the Church - we need to get the idea out of our heads that "Church" is a place that we meet. The reason we need to give is to support and be part of the ministry. Maintaining the building and making sure that the full time minister(s) have enough to live at a decent level means that everyone needs to give, and if we're giving as unto the Lord, then He blesses us and the gift. I'm not into prosperity teaching, but the times in my life that I have been most financially secure have been when I have been consistently giving.
When I joined the LDS church, tithing + offerings was one of the easiest things to get on board with. In my congregation I met several poor families, including victims of human trafficking and people with special needs, who were being supported by the churches funds. In some cases all of their expenses were paid by the church untill thier situations stableized. A few years after I joined I fell on hard times. I paid a tithe on the little money I was able to make, and the church bought my groceries and made up the difference in my rent until I could get on my feet. Even in the worst times, with the support of my congregation I can not say that I ever felt like I was in poverty. We just had everything in common, and those who needed help got it, those who didn't need it gave it. I was a practitioner of wicca before I was called to know Jesus, so I'm not sure how other churches run their welfare programs. However, the only reasons I can think of that would limit how much good a church could do is the generosity of its members, or the greed of its clergy. As members of a congregation we only have control over one of those factors.
People think tithing is tough when you're poor? If we're not faithful when things are scarce, we definitely won't be faithful when things are plentiful. I'm convinced there are Christians who would convince the widow, the one whose faith Jesus praised in Mark 12, to not give her last two coins...
Thank you so much for talking about this Ruslan! For the life of me, I don't understand all of the resistance from Christians. You get to keep 90%...I'm genuinely curious (outside of the outliers who are down real bad), what is the problem!?!?!?!!
I’d argue that the storehouse verse isn’t the only good picture of tithing. It’s also when Abel gave his first fruit as thanks to God. Jesus said give to Caesar what is Caesar’s and give to God what is God’s. I do it to honor God and practice my trust/faith. And to start a baseline of my weekly/bi-weekly budget.
What appropriate timing. I am convinced by Scripture that Christian’s are not required to tithe, not in the way the OT prescribes it. However we are on multiple occasions encouraged to be generous people, so we should give but not under compulsion. The % may differ but I like a standard 10% (call it tradition) but I believe a heart that does not want to give at all is something that we need to check ourselves if that does happen. Much more to be said but really interesting topic!
Amen! If we had to give according to what God has given us, even 100% wouldn’t cover it. A standard 10% makes so much sense. Give more when one can. It’s His money anyway. We need to steward it according to His will - whatever that is to each individual.
@@jamesmadera7036 Why do you guys always use that as an excuse. Jesus told his disciples to go out and preach the gospel with no money and only rely on those who choose to help them. Jesus also tells them not to charge for the gospel but we see the church today do the opposite. Also God is the one who provides for the ministry because he gives everything, God touches the heart of people to give through his holy spirit. Christians should spend more time preaching the gospel to those outside of the church because many are lazy and don't know the scriptures. Stop twisting the scriptures to justify tithing for the church of Jesus Christ under the new covenant. Look up the scriptures and see why God commanded tithing from the 11 tribes of Israel. It's literally for the inheritance of the tribe of the Levites
Tithing has very much been abused when it comes to legalism; I was raised you give 10% minimum and don’t question it. If you didn’t give you were stealing from God, it didn’t matter if you were down to your last dollar it was expected you still give, even if you were struggling to get by on social security. And when those people were in need they didn’t receive help from the church in return it was very sad. I absolutely believe in giving but a healthy church will have meetings to not only show where all the money is going, but they will also say it’s not all about money. They need people to help as well, giving your time is a huge part of it especially if the church wants to reach more of their community. My parents church has a huge holiday flea market every year, it’s all donations, food, baked goods, clothing, tools, toys, etc. All the funds raised go to the community as well as any leftover items. They’ve been doing it for over 50 years now and it’s a lot of work for people to volunteer their time. It’s makes a huge difference. Absolutely give with joy, just remember money isn’t always what’s needed.
God opened my eyes to see that honoring your parents is not simply in the way I interact with my parents but also in the way I interact with others. When we see a kid behaves or misbehaves we tend to think “where or who are this kids parents?” They’re either criticizing your parents or in awe of how they raised you. We bring honor to our parents when we live in a way that honors God.
I've been a tither my entire life. My parents led by example and I as an adult continued through being a poor bible college student, unemployment rain or shine. God has always supplied my needs. As my faith in Gods provision has grown he has blessed me. I'm not rich I'm a part time artist/cleaner. Anyone saying they are too poor to tithe lacks faith in Gods generosity. Want to grow your faith? Tithe in the hard times.
Respect for your subjective experiences but there's no such thing as a biblical tithe received from earned wages. Today's version of tithing isn't biblical.
This is a good video great topic. Something I needed to hear as I'm going through a financial situation. To hear you say "I tithed when I was poor". I'm encourage thanks guys
As a missionary kid the only thing that was constant from age 5 to 25 was the church building and property. It was a huge help to myself and others to have that. I don't think it has to be that way for every church but I do not believe that spending money on a building is ap poor use of funds. Now if it is excessive that might be one thing but that has to be determined by each church.
Thank you so much for this! Appreciate more of the context for tithing from old and new testament. We have always done 10 percent off of gross minimum. 100 percent of the money isn't mine but all God's. The least I can do is give a minimum of 10 percent of God's money back to His church that I am a part of. Ministry doesn't have to be a vow of poverty. I would say it is very exposing to all of these church congregations that are expecting their ministers to some how stay around when they are short changing them by not providing for them financially. Hot take pastor should make what a CEO of a similar sized business would make (clarification the pastor should also not be the one managing all of the money for the church so abuse doesn't happen).
I tithe every pay day. God sustains me, no matter how hard it is in today’s economy. I’ve also given my offerings to my church & pastoral offerings. Gotta take care of each other. that money can be a blessing to a family or individual that is also struggling at church.
I’m 20 and I’ve been tithing for as long as I remember. And the blessings that has followed is amazing. I’m looking at buying my first house soon. Like Ruslan said you don’t have to do it BUT you are missing out if your not giving that 10%
Would you, please, in your male authority as partaking in victory in this area....please pray for all the couples out there where the wife is still praying for breakthrough in this area! Thank you!
People who just walk in and out of a building once a week and turn their ears off during announcements or don’t go at all, they’ll not comprehend how much it costs to run a church. The energy bill alone would blow peoples minds.
I have always been a giver and have never lacked anything I experienced all the checks in the mail finding money etc I have never lacked but I also budget and spend wisely. My wife is stay at home mom . We are content and have never lacked. Just trust God and don’t be afraid what man thinks. You can be a tither and be a nasty Pharisee in your heart you will not be justified before God!! Let that sink in .
We are tithing, then my husband broke his back at eork, and his pay check stopped. He is miraculously healing. Thank you God. ❤ And ao our tithes dropped 😢 but we still did 10. Then his worker comp started after 3 months Ah. Brwathing a bit easier. 10% really isn't that much. Plus when we get blessed it's a blessing that we can give. ❤ It's wild to me that nit wveryone does tithing. We are in debt right now but we are blessed by God. ❤
Iv been in scenarios in my past where Iv had to count change to order meals off the dollar menu until my next paycheck, but when I went to church I still gave a couple of bucks, same with giving to homeless. We should try our best to be giving. It shouldnt feel like a chore. Even if someone cant give a specific percentage they could give something. I also think churches should have programs to give money back to their members who are struggling financially. Iv never been bold enough to ask in my past, probably because I felt I wouldnt get help
I have been on disability for around 8 years now. In 2021, 2022 & part of 2023 I was blessed to be able to live with family. I was diagnosed with a brain tumour. I gave my life to the Lord Easter of 2021. I was able to one of those years to donate 1k to a small church that I watched online. I know that’s a small amount to people with normal incomes. It was a large portion of mine! I need to find a church to tap into and tithe again. I look back at that year and it was a much better year for me than the this year. Not a lot has changed. Still disabled, on disability, living with a tumour. But now living independently so of course income is much less now. I’m thinking tithing is going to be what helps make 2025 a better year! 🙏🏻🙌🏻🩵
Same thing happened to me after feeling deflated thinking I missed the mark, I happened to talk to my oversight pastor about it. I didn't tell him I was talking about money but he asked, were you talking about money and I was like, yeah how did you know? He said yeah that's because of the spiritual battle. The enemy hates it when people give because there is so much breakthrough. Worse things happened to him like leaders. So what he told me really helped, he recommend to make sure that you get covered in prayer by your team and leaders let them know what you are going to be preaching on and to expect a spiritual attack and to pray for me before I preach and even while I am preaching. The next time was totally different.
tithing in the old testament also refers to bringing your produce to the tabernacle in Israel. it doesnt talk about giving money to your local church or pastor. american churches have selectively picked and misused scripture to make it fit what they want it to mean.
I encourage ppl to read Malachi it’s a small book when it’s talking about tithing and robbing god its talking about the priests robbing gods offerings and that’s what goes on till this day
Mike Winger has a very in-dept and thorough series on tithing. he breaks it down well. the passage you reference in Malachi applies to the old convenant and we are under the new convenant. But you have pastors like Robert Morris who have manipulated their congregation and scared them into giving by twisting that scripture.
People will argue for not giving while they subscribe to a million things and people they give to freely without spiritual benefit infact maybe even to their detriment. Love y'all brothers and sisters.
We tithe as soon as it hits our account. That temptation to not tithe may hit you, especially during tough times, but trust in God. He has taken care of us through lost jobs, moves, we are down to just my income because my wife is stay at home for our baby who has Trisomy 21, and God has continually made a way for us!
Me and my wife honor God with our tithe and the fruit we have isn’t a coincidence. Income property and a home we live in with one income is supernatural math and we can trace that back to tithing as well as our diligence in sowing seed.
Tithing is hands down the best financial decision I ever made. My finances changed drastically when I started tithing. Supernatural math is a thousand percent the truth lol...when I was making $275 a month and my rent was $250...I always tithed $27 a month to my church before I did anything else and I always had money for rent, food, and even weekly coffee outings with friends. God is the provider and nothing can change that.
I taught very similarly on the topic at our church a few months ago. It got quiet as well. 😂 As a pastor of a mid-size church (around 500 in attendance), the most common problem we face with the perception of church finances is that every church operates like a megachurch. We have incredibly giving people, and have given upwards of $500k in a year to missionaries, but people see our attendance and assume that we’re piling up millions in the bank (1000% not the case). The monthly electric bill alone is $10,000. We try to stay focused on being a blessing church instead of just settling for a blessed church, but we could do none of the things we do for our saints, our community, and those in need without the generosity of our incredible people. But people today are programmed to think of all pastors as stuffing their pockets to buy maxed out Escalades, lavish vacations, etc. The greed of a few has done a tremendous amount of damage to local churches, and it’s a shame that so many are being forced to close their doors.
There is definitely Godmath that doesn't make sense on paper and I will say times that I have felt like I don't have enough to give to my church I might come across someone in great need and I might give them exactly what I was afraid I didn't have a way to give to my church even though I knew it wouldn't make sense mathematically and God make sure his children never go hungry... im poor to be clear also... and i might steal that tent idea, thank you to that brother that shared that
“Tithing predates the law” Just for clarity’s sake, tithing as a legal requirement did not predate the law. Abram tithed but that wasn’t “tithing” in the legal sense and in the sense which is disputed. What Abram did has no bearing on the question as to whether or not Christians should tithe today. I agree with your overall message, just brining some clarity on that single point. God bless!
I try to tithe as much as I can, currently I and my wife are full time students and have struggled finding a job. We try to still tithe nonetheless. But it’s scary trusting God when there is nothing coming in at all for weeks
Tithing in our time really goes to the condition of the heart. In simple terms, the Old Testament was all about the Law. Jesus in the New Testament talked about the condition of the heart (i.e. lust = adultery, anger = murder). God doesn't need your money (it all belongs to Him anyway). It's about the condition of your heart that you 1) trust God for your provision in EVERYTHING and 2)using your blessings to bless others. This is one way that God uses a person and just like He wants our love and gave us free will, he wants you to want to give freely and happily. If you have a clear consious about tithing or not tithing, then press on. If this subject bothers you, then perhaps you need to sit down and talk to God about the condition of your heart.
Let ppl do what they want with their money. With or without tithing to a church God can bless you financially. I see it as give to those God has compelled you to give to and when you give do it with a gracious heart and from the right place.
@BlessGodStudios idk about follow your feels. But follow Jesus and use as much financial literacy as you currently have available to make wise choices and be a good steward of the things God has given you to multiply and create blessings with.
Hey, I live in Korea and they actually sell tents that have no bottom and match your room size, that are intentionally meant for putting in your bedroom, over the bed (you can either use poles or mount hangers on the wall. The heating cost savings from being able to turn off the furnace until 5am is huge. It was a big "green" trend here about a decade ago, and my wife and i still do it.
I started tithing very early in my 20s with my first career job. It changed the trajectory of my finances and what most would think is WAY MORE than a typical social worker makes. Giving financially to the church that pours into me spiritually allows them to continue to nurture beyond me and that gives God the glory. It’s not MY money to begin with it’s God’s.
The problem is people look at it like they are putting it into peoples pockets. If you go to a good church you should think of it more like a charity that actually helps people instead of pocketing 90% of the money they get. It funds the people doing spiritual work in your community.
I am part of the Christian unchurch, do church type things such as women conferences, Bible studies, listen to Christian pod casts. My point is to make issue about most Christians give nothing. I give to para church ministries. Have give 10% at times in the past but inconsistency but have always gave. Heard a pod cast about the vast number of Christian unchurch there are. The speaker who I believed wrote a book stated we need to go after them because if they start to give to the church he projected a huge financial windfall to the church. I believe most give, I give to Christian ministries that feed and house homeless both here and third world, orphans and Prison Fellowship. Doubt I am tracked as a Christian who faithfully gives, sure I am not alone.
@anthonyumezinwa94 he does, serving the Lord 🤍 and he works beyond just preaching the gospel, he does pastoral counseling, he travels far distances to visit hospitals in different cities or towns to help those who are in need of God and don't know it, Goes to police stations and prays with the police about the crime, he helps serves the community and whatever needs the Spirit leads him too. He works long hours to serve the Lord in this way and that's okay. He doesn't have time to do another secular job. I feel people pin pastors nowadays to being like Pharisees to the point that people persecute them, without realising they are actual God's servants
@@anthonyumezinwa94 and I don't know why you have a probably with pastors but I know for a fact and have seen the spiritual warfare my parents go through to know that are doing Gods works. A couple of months ago my parents were going through a very tough time, lots of persecution and tough times and the pastors family by another church in our area, the wife took her life at the exact same time they were going through hardships. I just want you to be aware of the level of suffering the endure to have more compassion, love you brother ❤️
I need to work on tithing to a church. I have made donations in recent natural events here in us. I also donated to white rose which is nonprofit fighting for pro life. I think that counts as well. But you are right it’s not enough.
circumcision also predates the law. Melchezedek’s purpose is to shadow the preisthood of Christ and how the Preisthood of Messiah is greater than the Levite’s ( Psalm 110 & Hebrews 7). Give cheerfully and sacrificially. Pray about it and find that fine line, whether its 5% or 50%
I tithed when i couldn't afford and it ended in bankruptcy. I went to a large church that talked about tithing a lot nobody wants to share the bad outcomes
I'm so sorry. It's evident that many are victimized by a false doctrine that today's version of tithing is a biblical mandate or that the Bible guarantees any type of "blessing" for paying money to a religious institution.
God sees you, I am sorry, I am very poor and I do not discount what you say at all, just know God has seen your heart and seen what you have given and they will meet their judgement ❤
Amen! 🙏 thanks for sharing. I don’t think giving in poverty and debt is biblical. I think sharing your need with you “church” during that time and others helping (tithing) you and your family is OR you getting a “bigger shovel” as Dave Ramsey says. This is why the home church model makes so much more sense. Most money in small-large churches alike is spent on salaries and a building that keeps getting larger or remodeled while many in the “church” are silently suffering.
Tithing 10% of your income put you in bankruptcy? That's confusing to me. That means you were regularly spending more than 90% of your income, cause you said you went into bankruptcy. What happened??
I would think if you go into bankruptcy you are ignoring what biblically we are called to do with out finances along with tithes. I would agree giving 10 percent cant be the cause when we are clearly called to save and live within our means. @@JesusFreak4Ever
There’s also a realization that even if you go back to the old testament, and look at all the examples of tithing, it’s not that they were just tithing money, but they were also tithing property. So I guess if you wanted to apply it as a New Testament believer you also have the ability to give clothes, things, appliances, that you would like to dedicate to the Lord to be used for purposes of the Lord. As well as giving to others, who are in need, maybe not financially, but definitely materially. Apart from the spiritual aspects of giving as well.
I agree that we shouldn't have our focus on the exception to the rule however I do believe that there are a lot of people who maybe are living in a situation where they may be an exception to the rule and they might need some council on how they should be living like me for example I give myself a lot of grief over the fact that I can't tithe the way I would like to and I would like some biblical counsel on how to reconcile that
I just want to point out that giving and tithing are not the same. Tithing was an obligation that served a specific purpose at the time (to provide for the Levites & their families since they had no inheritance in the promised land and were to dedicate their lives to service in the Temple). Giving is just giving…It’s giving to the poor, it can be an offering, any sacrificial thing you do or give up for the glory of the Lord. Yes you should give as a Christian, but tithing was an obligation for the Jews for the benefit of the Levites.
@@vibeson1075 ok, so you're not a member of a church. Kind of explains. I guess if you don't go to churches you wouldn't realize people actually still attend them 😁
Then it's not tithing. And people only giving 1% shouldnt feel like they are less-than Christians. It really has nothing to do with income anyway. Luke 18:12 is properly rendered as 'possessions'.
I’ve gotten burnt out from the tithing doctrine. Leaders I trusted would say “ if you don’t tithe you can’t walk with God”- referencing Abraham who walked with God Or “ if you don’t tithe your under a curse” - referencing Malachi Circumcision was before the law, and we see how Paul deals with that…I would think circumcision was more important than tithing because this was something God actually commanded, while tithing was something God did not ask Abraham or Jacob ( who both tithes pre law) Giving is definitely New Testament doctrine, but to superimpose the law into church ( levites as pastors, tithing as money to levites =pastors) where the new treatment teaching doesn’t, can be misleading. Paul used the law to describe giving to pastors…. But not tithing as a picture, but the verse” don’t muzzle the ox while it treads the grain”.
Thank you for your podcast. I'm the only one who tithes between my husband and I and nowadays we don't hear much about tithing. I'm trying to encourage him by example to do so. Maybe he'll listen to this. We also are on disability but I still believe in doing our best to tithe. Thank you for the movie suggestion. We can probably go for half price Tuesday and maybe bring my granddaughter.
Giving is personal and should be spirit-led. Invite God to meet you in this area to address any issues in your heart that may be a barrier. With that said biblical tithing is different from whats being preached in churches. 😂 some preachers equate it to salvation and freedom
Grew up in a church where they tracked if the leaders were tithing. I decided to stop writing my name on the envelope a month later they sent someone to talk to me about giving and making up what I missed at 25%.
Matthew 23: 23 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone. Jesus encouraged Pharisees to seek justice, faith and mercy but without stopping to tithe, Most people nowadays when it comes to financial matters try to give any excuse not to give money. we live in selfish world that we only care about ourselves and not giving.
The patriarchs practiced tithing (10 percenting) and it was not a one time Melchizedek moment.dont know why people keep missing this. Mandela effect? Genesis 28:20-22 NKJV - Then Jacob made a vow, saying, “If God will be with me, and keep me in this way that I am going, and give me bread to eat and clothing to put on, “so that I come back to my father’s house in peace, then the LORD shall be my God. “And this stone which I have set as a pillar shall be God’s house, and of all that You give me I will surely give a tenth to You.”
Yes, we tithe. Tithing is the training wheels of giving. It is also God's way of inoculating us from the evil that comes from the "love of money". Try to out give God! It always comes back around. God desires the best for us and when we hang onto our money from fear or greed, we miss out on the blessings of God.
I tithed for years early on in my marriage. I eventually stopped and honestly can't tell the difference in blessings or change. I've served on multiple teams and have been in plenty of small groups. I did these things gladly. Tithing has never been something I did cheerfully.
Thats the difference brother, tithing should also be something that should be done gladly and joyfully. I’ve had a complete opposite experience, I saw a difference when I gave Joyfully, to when I didn’t give at all and to when I gave but gave out of an “I have to” not wanting to do it but doing it because I wanted God to bless me. It’s all a posture of the heart.
How do you feel about tithing vs giving things when the church does outreach like food drives and Christmas gift giving for families in need? My husband and I have different views on this. I’ve been tithing faithfully since I started working at age 15. My husband doesn’t like giving money to the church because he’s distrustful of how funds are allocated. But he is very generous in other ways and loves to help and buy things when there is outreach going on. That’s how he does his “giving”. He didn’t even tithe when I was on staff at our church. Is it wrong that he doesn’t want to tithe even though he still gives in other ways?
I think the more pressing issue is that he's willing to attend a church where he doesn't trust the elders to handle the money. That's a problem. I'd want to make sure my church is open and transparent about funds. You ought to be able to see the fruit of your church's labors. If not, leave. If you see fruit, your husband needs to acknowledge and respect the work his church does and contribute. Just my two cents
Your husband is not wrong. It sounds like he has a heart to give to the poor which God loves. Just encourage him to look for ways to give to the poor, because the scriptures tells us that he that gives to the poor lends to God and God will repay him. Focus on his strengths and don't let anyone use this to cause division within your marriage. God is looking at how you respond to your husband in a loving and respectful way. If you want to tithe then continue to do so, just encourage him to give to the poor. Because all of it pleases God.
@@dahliaherrod4301 Amen! This is a common theme in the comments "I don't trust the church!". Well, why are you a member of that church then. Find a church family and actually be a member of its family. Can't find any you like or "fully trust"? Well, then, might be a problem within your own heart, actually.
Thankfully just about 3 weeks ago I started tithing 10 percent and I don't regret it at all. Ironic enough my Pastor gave a sermon just last week or 2 weeks ago strictly about tithing. It feels good. Like an acceptable sacrifice like Paul suggested in Romans 12.
Do i believe you need to tithe no…. But I am a big believer on giving cheerfully Long story short I’m not a tither but I’ve always been a huge giver I’ll give you the shirt off my back I’ll give you the last dollar in my pocket I got $100 to My name Which at the moment I don’t even haveBut if I did and you’re hurting I’ll give you All of it and I have done that for people …. sadly the people I know that tithe religiously aren’t to giving outside of that they’re cheap and especially people I’ve helped which I did out of my heart you don’t owe me nothing are now Richhh and didn’t throw me a breadcrumb when I went through three years of brokenness lost my job became suicidal etc. these are Christians that didn’t even come visit me for two years that live five minutes down the street for me family that I’ve been there for through everything they’ve ever went through. my point is no you don’t need to tithe but we should all as Christians be cheerful givers🙏
I was convinced that tithing is good to do despite not being a command. However, my church seemed to have an unbalanced focus on blessings and legacy rather than living holy and repentance which bothered me. The pastor was also totally focused on getting a bigger building and talked a lot about money which for a guest being at that service for the first time might never step foot in that church again. Focus and emphasis are so important and I think that is a blind spot for some pastors and churches.
If you resent the church you are a member of....find a new church! Or if you think God Has Placed you at *that* church, then repent of unforgiveness and bitterness and do the assignment He has called you to do there. And do it in love!
Okay so I love your channel but I take issue with the tithing. As a child, I watched my parents live under the heavy burden of the TRIPLE tithe.. yes, you heard right.. 30%!!! We barely had enough to eat and survive. I was made fun of in school because we were basically Jewish yet poor as dirt. I can't stand the overemphasized teaching of tithing while weightier matters go overlooked. I absolutely believe in love offerings FOR SURE.. but the tithe.. forget it! Look at the early church.. everyone gave so that no one lacked and it was NOT a tithe but an AGREED amount on a personal conviction basis. EDIT: Ruslan, i love your channel and can't see myself ever not loving what you do, just sharing my personal experiences and very deep conviction. Keep doing what you do brother. Many are watching and listening. 🙂
@@janelleg597 its not required, you are required to give whatever you can cheerfully, someone who gives 1 percent cheerfully is better than someone who give more out of compulsion
Yes, tithing under the Old Covenant was about 23% annualized. But it was received from either the tithe of the land or the tithe of the herd (Leviticus 27:30-32). All within Israel. All consumable items. All under Mosaic law. And sure, the word "tithe" predated the law, but nowhere in scripture was it required by God nor is there any evidence that Abraham "tithed" more than once or that Jacob actually tithed at all. Neither God nor Jesus ever asked anyone for their money. Giving, yes. Extortion, no. And poor people receive a tithe every 3 years in the Bible. Nowhere in the Bible were the poor instructed to pay one. So if we see tithing as it is practiced today as a "get-to-do" there's no biblical argument. But there's no biblical universal command for anyone to continuously pay 10% of their earned wages to a religious organization, and there never was. We're free to give, not bound to pay.
Money and budget are two things that come up in just about every single church staff meeting. It does get to the point where it’s kinda annoying talking about money.
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If you care about your church. Give. It really is that simple. Greed makes it seem complicated. It doesnt have to be 10 percent, but it should be done faithfully and selflessly.
It’s not about “greed” some people don’t want to give to a building and a salary.
@@TaylorBibleGuy and yet these same people want a great worship experience, modern building amenities, a coffee bar, etc...
@@carleyandmattnope, most people I know grew tired of all of these things and attend Home Church and give to the needs of actual people.
@@TaylorBibleGuy But aren't you both saying the same thing? Give to your church. You have decided you prefer a smaller home based church. And you say you prefer to give to your home based church.
Why would you attend a home based church and give to a random church down the road? Nobody is suggesting you do that.
I think you're really discussing your preference for a certain type of church and are somehow confabulating it into tithing/giving.
Whatever church you belong to, give to support the work of that church.
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It’s a blessing to be able to give!
Give, yes. Tithe, no.
When churches close abruptly then people ask why? Just like a household needs money, so does the church.
Catholic and Orthodox churches never have them and yet they are doing good.
@@BlastToTheRescue the catholic church collects money from the people actually. Also , they got that purgatory money
@@heythere6983 1st of all it's by the generosity of the congregation not mandatory and is not require any percentage of income. 2nd you don't have to pay for Purgatory for anything whatsoever.
@@BlastToTheRescuethey never have ___
Money
Just trying to understand.
@@BlastToTheRescue okay so they do take money and yes many parishes support tithing, so its no different than protestants who sometimes do or dont offer a percentage.
we all know the history of paying in regards of purgatory
Bedside baptist is crazy 😂
Just to add a small tithing testimony, I lost my job 4 months ago and never stopped tithing the entire time + continuing to serve in whatever capacity almost every week. Let me tell you something… even though I thought it was hard God took care of me as well as my family. We never missed a beat and still were able to praise Him through it all. Not only that, I’ve been given an opportunity to almost TRIPLE my income. I did the math, and every single penny I “missed” in the past 4 months I’ll make right back in no time. If you aren’t giving regularly, def consider it and test God in this area as He says in Malachi.
Bless you for that.
Pastor pillow is a new one to me.
The college I attended had attendance requirements. There was a nearby church that was parodied by students that slept in as Restmore (as opposed to Westmoor) church. It the mumbled Bedsprings Baptist (a message Baptist Church is similar name).
I understand wanting to require the students to have a good grounding for a Church run University, but it really doesn't work in the long run, even if you have to track attendance for school credit.
I'm still glad I attended that university, and really appreciated having (mostly) believers for instructors and theology classes not run by atheist agnostics or pagans.
Having many chapel stretches available per week was also nice, but the required attendance also has a disruptive affect, imo.
God certainly loves a cheerful giver and I'm glad you have been financially blessed. However, you are attributing to the wrong thing. God sustained you due to being generous and not due to "tithing". Malachi is specifically about Israel and specificlaly about food tithing. You can't take passages of scripture about one thing and just make it apply to something different.
To offer a different testimony, when I finally realized the way tithing is done today was not biblical, I stopped. Yet, I'm making more and am in a better situation financially then when I thithed over 10% every week for years.
How is this possible? It's because when I give now, I give to those less fortunate and sometimes the church as well. I give because I want to, not because I feel compelled to.
I would encourage you to research what tithing is and actually read the context of all of the Bible verses used to back up modern tithing. You will find all of them are taken out of context or are conflating giving with tithing.
I was crying 😂
Give because you want to and not because you are commanded to. Giving your life to Jesus Christ voluntarily and allow Him to lead you in how much to give, who to give to, when to give and what to give.
The principle of giving as shown by God in His giving is motivated by love and is never forced.
No such thing as principle of tithing. Its always been the principle of giving that exist even from the beginning.
Give as God gives.
He blesses us first so we can bless.
He loves us first so we can love.
He fogives us first so we can forgive.
We are blessed not because of our right doing but because of what Jesus Christ did.
His life lived, life given and life resurrected is the reason we are blessed.
To Him alone be the glory.
Amen! Well said!
'No such thing as principle of tithing". Thank you. I bet that if Ruslan would have left the word 'tithing' alone and not browbeat people for giving less than 10%, he wouldn't have gotten the frosty reception. People don't mind being reminded to be generous, but they don't care for a 'holier than thou' attitude from someone teaching.
I like Ruslan and would like to see him completely embrace the New Covenant spirit. Continuing to use the word 'tithe' at all should just cease. That's all.
@@thecatalysm5658 i think it would've been just as bad. We have very 'poor' friends who are 'believers in Christ' who just got engaged, have thousands in their savings, planning a wedding in another country and didn't have £1 for us when we asked. Yes we asked for £1, that's most people i met who are also Christians, they just pray for you😢
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I cook for my church, serve. Looking to serve for special needs daycare at church. I dont got momey. Money is something wealthy rich people in city areas got. That aint me. My life is the lords. Lord aint given me money, but my heart, body, prayer, emotions, time, i still got lots of that.
Time is money! If you don't have money to give, being generous with your time is so valuable.
Bother I will still encourage you to give with what you have, the amount doesn’t matter, the posture of the heart does, that being 50 cents or 1 thousand dollars. Just like the the story Widows Offering found in Mark 12:41-44
@@MGMG007i an reminded of Jesus' parable of the widow's mite.
I've encouraged my nieces and nephews to start small, with skipping just one little cola or something. And be willing to stretch after praying about doing more. God is faithful.
It's not about affordability. It's knowing that God is the reason you made that income in the 1st place, and trusting that if you give Him 10%, He will still provide for you with the 90. Don't let money be an idol to you. It doesn't save or protect you, God does.
Amen!
When I first began attending organized churches I felt unsure about tithing, but once I started embedding myself as a volunteer and close member of our church the question of whether to tithe and how much became clear as day.
More Christians must confront their own covetousness with money, and they must dig into a community of believers.
“Now I say this: the one who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and the one who sows generously will also reap generously. Each one must do just as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. And God is able to make all grace overflow to you, so that, always having all sufficiency in everything, you may have an abundance for every good deed;”
2 Corinthians 9:6-8 NASB2020
Glad to get back to more videos like this. More word talk to help in the faith less hot topic takes. Fan of the channel 🙏🏾
I think a major issue is that this tithing principle is always taught from a self serving angle. Give to the Church and see how God blesses YOU. We never talk about how it blesses our community. Why do we need to see direct benefits in our lives for us to care? God is generous with you in all ways so you can give generously with no expectations of reciprocity.
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My husband and I started tithing after we heard Dave Ramsey talk about it. The way he used the analogy of a closed fist and an open fist really helped.
Love this video. I keep seeing stuff about tithing. I am struggling to support my family and just scraping by but I still want to tithe. Your comment about "not giving to get" has resonated with me. I feel that I don't have my heart in it to trust the Lord with this when we are struggling and I feel that part of me thinks about tithing but only to get from God a blessing. Thank you for opening up this new idea for something I need to pray about. God bless
Amen, we give cause we love GOD, it's an act of love in motion.
I appreciate your story and want to share my own in the hopes God uses it to bless others. For 2 years I haven’t been able to tithe consistently and every month I’d pray and it ate at my heart to not give to God what was his. This is not a boast of me but a praise and worship of how merciful God is in us. If God willed it I wish I could give 100% of what I have, because all that I have was a gift given from him. I have found that in my heart if I flip the financial graph upside down, and see that all that I have belongs to God, and how much has He planned and graced me to use to feed my family and to nourish these earthly bodies with shelter and heat and food. When I look at all being Gods and he gives me a portion of what he has, instead of looking at what I have as a portion to give to him. My heart craves to give as much as I can.
These last two years, God knowing my heart, has not given me permission to give consistently until I watched this video and for the hundredth time prayed asking God if I can again start giving back to the church my finances. And he has finally said yes.
Tithing is not just money, but even tithing all that we get, our spices, our time, work of our hands. Spending time with the lord and away from selfish things such as UA-cam or social media. Give God your first fruits of the day, even your first attention and time in the day. During the times where God has not allowed me to give financially, he has called me to abundantly out pour my TIME to service in his name. Every breath we take and skill we have, is a gift from God to use for His glory and praise.
Again this is not about me, please do not think I am saying anything of myself but only sharing the beauty that God has shared with me in the offering of my whole self to the service of the Lord.
I was once a slave to sin, condemned to death for he price that must be paid. Jesus paid my slave price, set me free, and called me to his name to become a Child of God. Serving him all the days of my life. No longer serving myself or the sins of this world, but serving God with our eyes fixed on His kingdom. God bless you all, praise his name
I wasn't great about the amount of giving but my husband is very generous. I finally had a spark and understood that if I wasn't willing to give it would fall onto everyone else at church. I knew after that everyone giving raises all of us up and doesn't make some over burdened. If you love your church you should want to take care of it. They are your family too.
Amen!
The fact is the WE ARE the Church - we need to get the idea out of our heads that "Church" is a place that we meet. The reason we need to give is to support and be part of the ministry.
Maintaining the building and making sure that the full time minister(s) have enough to live at a decent level means that everyone needs to give, and if we're giving as unto the Lord, then He blesses us and the gift. I'm not into prosperity teaching, but the times in my life that I have been most financially secure have been when I have been consistently giving.
When I joined the LDS church, tithing + offerings was one of the easiest things to get on board with. In my congregation I met several poor families, including victims of human trafficking and people with special needs, who were being supported by the churches funds. In some cases all of their expenses were paid by the church untill thier situations stableized. A few years after I joined I fell on hard times. I paid a tithe on the little money I was able to make, and the church bought my groceries and made up the difference in my rent until I could get on my feet. Even in the worst times, with the support of my congregation I can not say that I ever felt like I was in poverty. We just had everything in common, and those who needed help got it, those who didn't need it gave it.
I was a practitioner of wicca before I was called to know Jesus, so I'm not sure how other churches run their welfare programs. However, the only reasons I can think of that would limit how much good a church could do is the generosity of its members, or the greed of its clergy. As members of a congregation we only have control over one of those factors.
Thanks so much for talking about this - we need more of this!
Thank you for this video and reminder of the blessings to give from the heart.
😂😂😂 had to be there. Thank you @Ruslan for getting into the word with us!
People think tithing is tough when you're poor? If we're not faithful when things are scarce, we definitely won't be faithful when things are plentiful. I'm convinced there are Christians who would convince the widow, the one whose faith Jesus praised in Mark 12, to not give her last two coins...
Thank you so much for talking about this Ruslan! For the life of me, I don't understand all of the resistance from Christians. You get to keep 90%...I'm genuinely curious (outside of the outliers who are down real bad), what is the problem!?!?!?!!
I’d argue that the storehouse verse isn’t the only good picture of tithing. It’s also when Abel gave his first fruit as thanks to God.
Jesus said give to Caesar what is Caesar’s and give to God what is God’s.
I do it to honor God and practice my trust/faith. And to start a baseline of my weekly/bi-weekly budget.
What appropriate timing. I am convinced by Scripture that Christian’s are not required to tithe, not in the way the OT prescribes it. However we are on multiple occasions encouraged to be generous people, so we should give but not under compulsion. The % may differ but I like a standard 10% (call it tradition) but I believe a heart that does not want to give at all is something that we need to check ourselves if that does happen. Much more to be said but really interesting topic!
Amen!
If we had to give according to what God has given us, even 100% wouldn’t cover it. A standard 10% makes so much sense. Give more when one can. It’s His money anyway. We need to steward it according to His will - whatever that is to each individual.
How is a church to survive if nobody gives?
This is the biblical answer!☝️
@@jamesmadera7036 Why do you guys always use that as an excuse. Jesus told his disciples to go out and preach the gospel with no money and only rely on those who choose to help them. Jesus also tells them not to charge for the gospel but we see the church today do the opposite. Also God is the one who provides for the ministry because he gives everything, God touches the heart of people to give through his holy spirit. Christians should spend more time preaching the gospel to those outside of the church because many are lazy and don't know the scriptures. Stop twisting the scriptures to justify tithing for the church of Jesus Christ under the new covenant. Look up the scriptures and see why God commanded tithing from the 11 tribes of Israel. It's literally for the inheritance of the tribe of the Levites
@@jamesmadera7036 Biblical, systematic tithes weren't gifts. They were compulsory submissions of consumable items.
Been tithing since 2011. I have studied it out more and came to the conclusion that I tithe by faith according to the law of faith.
Tithing has very much been abused when it comes to legalism; I was raised you give 10% minimum and don’t question it. If you didn’t give you were stealing from God, it didn’t matter if you were down to your last dollar it was expected you still give, even if you were struggling to get by on social security. And when those people were in need they didn’t receive help from the church in return it was very sad. I absolutely believe in giving but a healthy church will have meetings to not only show where all the money is going, but they will also say it’s not all about money. They need people to help as well, giving your time is a huge part of it especially if the church wants to reach more of their community. My parents church has a huge holiday flea market every year, it’s all donations, food, baked goods, clothing, tools, toys, etc. All the funds raised go to the community as well as any leftover items. They’ve been doing it for over 50 years now and it’s a lot of work for people to volunteer their time. It’s makes a huge difference. Absolutely give with joy, just remember money isn’t always what’s needed.
Tithing/offering along with Honoring your parent are both inexplainable blessings.
God opened my eyes to see that honoring your parents is not simply in the way I interact with my parents but also in the way I interact with others.
When we see a kid behaves or misbehaves we tend to think “where or who are this kids parents?” They’re either criticizing your parents or in awe of how they raised you. We bring honor to our parents when we live in a way that honors God.
I've been a tither my entire life. My parents led by example and I as an adult continued through being a poor bible college student, unemployment rain or shine. God has always supplied my needs. As my faith in Gods provision has grown he has blessed me. I'm not rich I'm a part time artist/cleaner. Anyone saying they are too poor to tithe lacks faith in Gods generosity. Want to grow your faith? Tithe in the hard times.
Respect for your subjective experiences but there's no such thing as a biblical tithe received from earned wages. Today's version of tithing isn't biblical.
Amen zach for the budgeting example
This is a good video great topic. Something I needed to hear as I'm going through a financial situation. To hear you say "I tithed when I was poor". I'm encourage thanks guys
As a missionary kid the only thing that was constant from age 5 to 25 was the church building and property. It was a huge help to myself and others to have that. I don't think it has to be that way for every church but I do not believe that spending money on a building is ap poor use of funds. Now if it is excessive that might be one thing but that has to be determined by each church.
Thank you so much for this! Appreciate more of the context for tithing from old and new testament. We have always done 10 percent off of gross minimum. 100 percent of the money isn't mine but all God's. The least I can do is give a minimum of 10 percent of God's money back to His church that I am a part of. Ministry doesn't have to be a vow of poverty. I would say it is very exposing to all of these church congregations that are expecting their ministers to some how stay around when they are short changing them by not providing for them financially. Hot take pastor should make what a CEO of a similar sized business would make (clarification the pastor should also not be the one managing all of the money for the church so abuse doesn't happen).
Radical generosity. Love that.
I tithe every pay day. God sustains me, no matter how hard it is in today’s economy. I’ve also given my offerings to my church & pastoral offerings. Gotta take care of each other. that money can be a blessing to a family or individual that is also struggling at church.
10% everyday?
I love the banter 😆
I needed this confirmation on tithing today! 🙏🏽 TYG for talking to me through this channel 👏🏾
I’m 20 and I’ve been tithing for as long as I remember. And the blessings that has followed is amazing. I’m looking at buying my first house soon. Like Ruslan said you don’t have to do it BUT you are missing out if your not giving that 10%
Your church sounds really good honestly
wow! PTL being part of the 5-10%. Took awhile to do this … my wife led the example
Would you, please, in your male authority as partaking in victory in this area....please pray for all the couples out there where the wife is still praying for breakthrough in this area!
Thank you!
People who just walk in and out of a building once a week and turn their ears off during announcements or don’t go at all, they’ll not comprehend how much it costs to run a church. The energy bill alone would blow peoples minds.
I have always been a giver and have never lacked anything I experienced all the checks in the mail finding money etc I have never lacked but I also budget and spend wisely. My wife is stay at home mom . We are content and have never lacked. Just trust God and don’t be afraid what man thinks. You can be a tither and be a nasty Pharisee in your heart you will not be justified before God!! Let that sink in .
We are tithing, then my husband broke his back at eork, and his pay check stopped.
He is miraculously healing. Thank you God. ❤
And ao our tithes dropped 😢 but we still did 10.
Then his worker comp started after 3 months
Ah. Brwathing a bit easier. 10% really isn't that much.
Plus when we get blessed it's a blessing that we can give. ❤
It's wild to me that nit wveryone does tithing.
We are in debt right now but we are blessed by God. ❤
Iv been in scenarios in my past where Iv had to count change to order meals off the dollar menu until my next paycheck, but when I went to church I still gave a couple of bucks, same with giving to homeless. We should try our best to be giving. It shouldnt feel like a chore. Even if someone cant give a specific percentage they could give something. I also think churches should have programs to give money back to their members who are struggling financially. Iv never been bold enough to ask in my past, probably because I felt I wouldnt get help
I have been on disability for around 8 years now. In 2021, 2022 & part of 2023 I was blessed to be able to live with family. I was diagnosed with a brain tumour. I gave my life to the Lord Easter of 2021. I was able to one of those years to donate 1k to a small church that I watched online. I know that’s a small amount to people with normal incomes. It was a large portion of mine! I need to find a church to tap into and tithe again. I look back at that year and it was a much better year for me than the this year. Not a lot has changed. Still disabled, on disability, living with a tumour. But now living independently so of course income is much less now. I’m thinking tithing is going to be what helps make 2025 a better year! 🙏🏻🙌🏻🩵
Same thing happened to me after feeling deflated thinking I missed the mark, I happened to talk to my oversight pastor about it. I didn't tell him I was talking about money but he asked, were you talking about money and I was like, yeah how did you know? He said yeah that's because of the spiritual battle. The enemy hates it when people give because there is so much breakthrough. Worse things happened to him like leaders. So what he told me really helped, he recommend to make sure that you get covered in prayer by your team and leaders let them know what you are going to be preaching on and to expect a spiritual attack and to pray for me before I preach and even while I am preaching. The next time was totally different.
tithing in the old testament also refers to bringing your produce to the tabernacle in Israel. it doesnt talk about giving money to your local church or pastor. american churches have selectively picked and misused scripture to make it fit what they want it to mean.
What I’ve learned with tithing and giving is that even with your money we are to give. It shows where your heart is as well
I encourage ppl to read Malachi it’s a small book when it’s talking about tithing and robbing god its talking about the priests robbing gods offerings and that’s what goes on till this day
Mike Winger has a very in-dept and thorough series on tithing. he breaks it down well. the passage you reference in Malachi applies to the old convenant and we are under the new convenant. But you have pastors like Robert Morris who have manipulated their congregation and scared them into giving by twisting that scripture.
Yes I agree,they use one verse out of context in the book of Malachi when in reality it’s talking about the priest robbing god
People will argue for not giving while they subscribe to a million things and people they give to freely without spiritual benefit infact maybe even to their detriment. Love y'all brothers and sisters.
We tithe as soon as it hits our account. That temptation to not tithe may hit you, especially during tough times, but trust in God. He has taken care of us through lost jobs, moves, we are down to just my income because my wife is stay at home for our baby who has Trisomy 21, and God has continually made a way for us!
Me and my wife honor God with our tithe and the fruit we have isn’t a coincidence. Income property and a home we live in with one income is supernatural math and we can trace that back to tithing as well as our diligence in sowing seed.
Tithing is hands down the best financial decision I ever made. My finances changed drastically when I started tithing.
Supernatural math is a thousand percent the truth lol...when I was making $275 a month and my rent was $250...I always tithed $27 a month to my church before I did anything else and I always had money for rent, food, and even weekly coffee outings with friends. God is the provider and nothing can change that.
I taught very similarly on the topic at our church a few months ago. It got quiet as well. 😂
As a pastor of a mid-size church (around 500 in attendance), the most common problem we face with the perception of church finances is that every church operates like a megachurch. We have incredibly giving people, and have given upwards of $500k in a year to missionaries, but people see our attendance and assume that we’re piling up millions in the bank (1000% not the case).
The monthly electric bill alone is $10,000. We try to stay focused on being a blessing church instead of just settling for a blessed church, but we could do none of the things we do for our saints, our community, and those in need without the generosity of our incredible people.
But people today are programmed to think of all pastors as stuffing their pockets to buy maxed out Escalades, lavish vacations, etc.
The greed of a few has done a tremendous amount of damage to local churches, and it’s a shame that so many are being forced to close their doors.
There is definitely Godmath that doesn't make sense on paper and I will say times that I have felt like I don't have enough to give to my church I might come across someone in great need and I might give them exactly what I was afraid I didn't have a way to give to my church even though I knew it wouldn't make sense mathematically and God make sure his children never go hungry... im poor to be clear also... and i might steal that tent idea, thank you to that brother that shared that
“Tithing predates the law”
Just for clarity’s sake, tithing as a legal requirement did not predate the law. Abram tithed but that wasn’t “tithing” in the legal sense and in the sense which is disputed. What Abram did has no bearing on the question as to whether or not Christians should tithe today. I agree with your overall message, just brining some clarity on that single point. God bless!
I try to tithe as much as I can, currently I and my wife are full time students and have struggled finding a job. We try to still tithe nonetheless. But it’s scary trusting God when there is nothing coming in at all for weeks
Tithing in our time really goes to the condition of the heart. In simple terms, the Old Testament was all about the Law. Jesus in the New Testament talked about the condition of the heart (i.e. lust = adultery, anger = murder). God doesn't need your money (it all belongs to Him anyway). It's about the condition of your heart that you 1) trust God for your provision in EVERYTHING and 2)using your blessings to bless others. This is one way that God uses a person and just like He wants our love and gave us free will, he wants you to want to give freely and happily. If you have a clear consious about tithing or not tithing, then press on. If this subject bothers you, then perhaps you need to sit down and talk to God about the condition of your heart.
Let ppl do what they want with their money. With or without tithing to a church God can bless you financially. I see it as give to those God has compelled you to give to and when you give do it with a gracious heart and from the right place.
So follow your feels? 🤣🤣🤣
@BlessGodStudios idk about follow your feels. But follow Jesus and use as much financial literacy as you currently have available to make wise choices and be a good steward of the things God has given you to multiply and create blessings with.
Hey, I live in Korea and they actually sell tents that have no bottom and match your room size, that are intentionally meant for putting in your bedroom, over the bed (you can either use poles or mount hangers on the wall. The heating cost savings from being able to turn off the furnace until 5am is huge. It was a big "green" trend here about a decade ago, and my wife and i still do it.
Oh I've seen those and wondered what they were for. What a good idea. Gas and electric prices in the UK are crazy high.
I started tithing very early in my 20s with my first career job. It changed the trajectory of my finances and what most would think is WAY MORE than a typical social worker makes. Giving financially to the church that pours into me spiritually allows them to continue to nurture beyond me and that gives God the glory. It’s not MY money to begin with it’s God’s.
The problem is people look at it like they are putting it into peoples pockets. If you go to a good church you should think of it more like a charity that actually helps people instead of pocketing 90% of the money they get. It funds the people doing spiritual work in your community.
Amen!
I am part of the Christian unchurch, do church type things such as women conferences, Bible studies, listen to Christian pod casts. My point is to make issue about most Christians give nothing. I give to para church ministries. Have give 10% at times in the past but inconsistency but have always gave. Heard a pod cast about the vast number of Christian unchurch there are. The speaker who I believed wrote a book stated we need to go after them because if they start to give to the church he projected a huge financial windfall to the church. I believe most give, I give to Christian ministries that feed and house homeless both here and third world, orphans and Prison Fellowship. Doubt I am tracked as a Christian who faithfully gives, sure I am not alone.
Cool.Thank You
I opened this up but am already exhausted before reading any comment
then you could have ignored the comment section and not even commented lol
As a pastors daughter, even just some income for my household for all the work my dad does would be nice✋
@@mixalot Then tell your father to go and work as the Bible commands.
@anthonyumezinwa94 he does, serving the Lord 🤍 and he works beyond just preaching the gospel, he does pastoral counseling, he travels far distances to visit hospitals in different cities or towns to help those who are in need of God and don't know it, Goes to police stations and prays with the police about the crime, he helps serves the community and whatever needs the Spirit leads him too. He works long hours to serve the Lord in this way and that's okay. He doesn't have time to do another secular job. I feel people pin pastors nowadays to being like Pharisees to the point that people persecute them, without realising they are actual God's servants
@@anthonyumezinwa94 and I don't know why you have a probably with pastors but I know for a fact and have seen the spiritual warfare my parents go through to know that are doing Gods works. A couple of months ago my parents were going through a very tough time, lots of persecution and tough times and the pastors family by another church in our area, the wife took her life at the exact same time they were going through hardships. I just want you to be aware of the level of suffering the endure to have more compassion, love you brother ❤️
I need to work on tithing to a church. I have made donations in recent natural events here in us. I also donated to white rose which is nonprofit fighting for pro life. I think that counts as well. But you are right it’s not enough.
circumcision also predates the law. Melchezedek’s purpose is to shadow the preisthood of Christ and how the Preisthood of Messiah is greater than the Levite’s ( Psalm 110 & Hebrews 7). Give cheerfully and sacrificially. Pray about it and find that fine line, whether its 5% or 50%
I tithed when i couldn't afford and it ended in bankruptcy. I went to a large church that talked about tithing a lot nobody wants to share the bad outcomes
I'm so sorry. It's evident that many are victimized by a false doctrine that today's version of tithing is a biblical mandate or that the Bible guarantees any type of "blessing" for paying money to a religious institution.
God sees you, I am sorry, I am very poor and I do not discount what you say at all, just know God has seen your heart and seen what you have given and they will meet their judgement ❤
Amen! 🙏 thanks for sharing. I don’t think giving in poverty and debt is biblical. I think sharing your need with you “church” during that time and others helping (tithing) you and your family is OR you getting a “bigger shovel” as Dave Ramsey says. This is why the home church model makes so much more sense. Most money in small-large churches alike is spent on salaries and a building that keeps getting larger or remodeled while many in the “church” are silently suffering.
Tithing 10% of your income put you in bankruptcy? That's confusing to me. That means you were regularly spending more than 90% of your income, cause you said you went into bankruptcy. What happened??
I would think if you go into bankruptcy you are ignoring what biblically we are called to do with out finances along with tithes. I would agree giving 10 percent cant be the cause when we are clearly called to save and live within our means. @@JesusFreak4Ever
There’s also a realization that even if you go back to the old testament, and look at all the examples of tithing, it’s not that they were just tithing money, but they were also tithing property.
So I guess if you wanted to apply it as a New Testament believer you also have the ability to give clothes, things, appliances, that you would like to dedicate to the Lord to be used for purposes of the Lord.
As well as giving to others, who are in need, maybe not financially, but definitely materially. Apart from the spiritual aspects of giving as well.
I agree that we shouldn't have our focus on the exception to the rule however I do believe that there are a lot of people who maybe are living in a situation where they may be an exception to the rule and they might need some council on how they should be living like me for example I give myself a lot of grief over the fact that I can't tithe the way I would like to and I would like some biblical counsel on how to reconcile that
I just want to point out that giving and tithing are not the same. Tithing was an obligation that served a specific purpose at the time (to provide for the Levites & their families since they had no inheritance in the promised land and were to dedicate their lives to service in the Temple). Giving is just giving…It’s giving to the poor, it can be an offering, any sacrificial thing you do or give up for the glory of the Lord. Yes you should give as a Christian, but tithing was an obligation for the Jews for the benefit of the Levites.
I’d rather give to the homeless or people in need
Are you a member of a church, where you attend regularly?
@ no, nobody goes to church anymore
@@vibeson1075 ok, so you're not a member of a church. Kind of explains.
I guess if you don't go to churches you wouldn't realize people actually still attend them 😁
respect to everyone who is struggling and still tithing, even if is just 1%
Then it's not tithing. And people only giving 1% shouldnt feel like they are less-than Christians. It really has nothing to do with income anyway. Luke 18:12 is properly rendered as 'possessions'.
I have an argument with my atheist father about this giving money to pastors and church. But, I am a okay with it
11:45 Yo this had me weak 😭😂 “YES!!!”
I’ve gotten burnt out from the tithing doctrine.
Leaders I trusted would say “ if you don’t tithe you can’t walk with God”- referencing Abraham who walked with God
Or “ if you don’t tithe your under a curse” - referencing Malachi
Circumcision was before the law, and we see how Paul deals with that…I would think circumcision was more important than tithing because this was something God actually commanded, while tithing was something God did not ask Abraham or Jacob ( who both tithes pre law)
Giving is definitely New Testament doctrine, but to superimpose the law into church ( levites as pastors, tithing as money to levites =pastors) where the new treatment teaching doesn’t, can be misleading. Paul used the law to describe giving to pastors…. But not tithing as a picture, but the verse” don’t muzzle the ox while it treads the grain”.
Thank you for your podcast. I'm the only one who tithes between my husband and I and nowadays we don't hear much about tithing. I'm trying to encourage him by example to do so. Maybe he'll listen to this. We also are on disability but I still believe in doing our best to tithe.
Thank you for the movie suggestion.
We can probably go for half price Tuesday and maybe bring my granddaughter.
1:15 5-10% is wild
Any chance you would share a recording of that talk? I would love to hear it!
Giving is personal and should be spirit-led. Invite God to meet you in this area to address any issues in your heart that may be a barrier.
With that said biblical tithing is different from whats being preached in churches. 😂 some preachers equate it to salvation and freedom
The Catholic Church is findable, and has the biggest charity ever.
Grew up in a church where they tracked if the leaders were tithing. I decided to stop writing my name on the envelope a month later they sent someone to talk to me about giving and making up what I missed at 25%.
Matthew 23: 23 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone. Jesus encouraged Pharisees to seek justice, faith and mercy but without stopping to tithe, Most people nowadays when it comes to financial matters try to give any excuse not to give money. we live in selfish world that we only care about ourselves and not giving.
'Ought to have done' is in the past tense for a reason. He could have easily said 'should be doing', but didnt.
The patriarchs practiced tithing (10 percenting) and it was not a one time Melchizedek moment.dont know why people keep missing this. Mandela effect?
Genesis 28:20-22 NKJV - Then Jacob made a vow, saying, “If God will be with me, and keep me in this way that I am going, and give me bread to eat and clothing to put on, “so that I come back to my father’s house in peace, then the LORD shall be my God. “And this stone which I have set as a pillar shall be God’s house, and of all that You give me I will surely give a tenth to You.”
Zack is hilarious ain’t no way he snuck that comment in there around 12mins 😂😂😂
Yes, we tithe. Tithing is the training wheels of giving. It is also God's way of inoculating us from the evil that comes from the "love of money".
Try to out give God! It always comes back around. God desires the best for us and when we hang onto our money from fear or greed, we miss out on the blessings of God.
@nicomyth Nobody can out give God! Everything we have, He's the one who has blessed us with it.
I somewhat agree. Not everyone can give 10% though. That's where giving not out of compulsion and a joyful heart comes in.
This is dangerous theology that can exploit naive people. There are prosperity preachers that take millions from people that end up going poor.
Nowhere in the Bible did God or Jesus tell anyone to give them money.
Tithing is always a hard convo to have at church lol someone always gonna get upset
Is there a recording of this sermon/Q&A?
I tithed for years early on in my marriage. I eventually stopped and honestly can't tell the difference in blessings or change. I've served on multiple teams and have been in plenty of small groups. I did these things gladly. Tithing has never been something I did cheerfully.
Thats the difference brother, tithing should also be something that should be done gladly and joyfully. I’ve had a complete opposite experience, I saw a difference when I gave Joyfully, to when I didn’t give at all and to when I gave but gave out of an “I have to” not wanting to do it but doing it because I wanted God to bless me. It’s all a posture of the heart.
Do you know any good churches in Fort Worth Texas. That will teach giving in this way ? A lot of prosperity gospel churches in this area
How do you feel about tithing vs giving things when the church does outreach like food drives and Christmas gift giving for families in need? My husband and I have different views on this. I’ve been tithing faithfully since I started working at age 15. My husband doesn’t like giving money to the church because he’s distrustful of how funds are allocated. But he is very generous in other ways and loves to help and buy things when there is outreach going on. That’s how he does his “giving”. He didn’t even tithe when I was on staff at our church. Is it wrong that he doesn’t want to tithe even though he still gives in other ways?
I think the more pressing issue is that he's willing to attend a church where he doesn't trust the elders to handle the money. That's a problem. I'd want to make sure my church is open and transparent about funds. You ought to be able to see the fruit of your church's labors. If not, leave. If you see fruit, your husband needs to acknowledge and respect the work his church does and contribute. Just my two cents
Your husband is not wrong. It sounds like he has a heart to give to the poor which God loves. Just encourage him to look for ways to give to the poor, because the scriptures tells us that he that gives to the poor lends to God and God will repay him. Focus on his strengths and don't let anyone use this to cause division within your marriage. God is looking at how you respond to your husband in a loving and respectful way. If you want to tithe then continue to do so, just encourage him to give to the poor. Because all of it pleases God.
@@dahliaherrod4301 Amen!
This is a common theme in the comments "I don't trust the church!". Well, why are you a member of that church then. Find a church family and actually be a member of its family.
Can't find any you like or "fully trust"? Well, then, might be a problem within your own heart, actually.
Thankfully just about 3 weeks ago I started tithing 10 percent and I don't regret it at all. Ironic enough my Pastor gave a sermon just last week or 2 weeks ago strictly about tithing. It feels good. Like an acceptable sacrifice like Paul suggested in Romans 12.
Do i believe you need to tithe no…. But I am a big believer on giving cheerfully Long story short I’m not a tither but I’ve always been a huge giver I’ll give you the shirt off my back I’ll give you the last dollar in my pocket I got $100 to
My name Which at the moment I don’t even haveBut if I did and you’re hurting I’ll give you All of it and I have done that for people …. sadly the people I know that tithe religiously aren’t to giving outside of that they’re cheap and especially people I’ve helped which I did out of my heart you don’t owe me nothing are now Richhh and didn’t throw me a breadcrumb when I went through three years of brokenness lost my job became suicidal etc. these are Christians that didn’t even come visit me for two years that live five minutes down the street for me family that I’ve been there for through everything they’ve ever went through. my point is no you don’t need to tithe but we should all as Christians be cheerful givers🙏
I started tithing ~10 years ago, haven't been worrying about clients since
I was convinced that tithing is good to do despite not being a command. However, my church seemed to have an unbalanced focus on blessings and legacy rather than living holy and repentance which bothered me. The pastor was also totally focused on getting a bigger building and talked a lot about money which for a guest being at that service for the first time might never step foot in that church again. Focus and emphasis are so important and I think that is a blind spot for some pastors and churches.
I think people have an aversion due to so many corporate churches cropping up.
If you resent the church you are a member of....find a new church! Or if you think God Has Placed you at *that* church, then repent of unforgiveness and bitterness and do the assignment He has called you to do there. And do it in love!
Dropping your last 100 and whole life turning around sounds like the miracle water program at night
Not if it’s a true story
Okay so I love your channel but I take issue with the tithing. As a child, I watched my parents live under the heavy burden of the TRIPLE tithe.. yes, you heard right.. 30%!!! We barely had enough to eat and survive. I was made fun of in school because we were basically Jewish yet poor as dirt. I can't stand the overemphasized teaching of tithing while weightier matters go overlooked. I absolutely believe in love offerings FOR SURE.. but the tithe.. forget it! Look at the early church.. everyone gave so that no one lacked and it was NOT a tithe but an AGREED amount on a personal conviction basis.
EDIT: Ruslan, i love your channel and can't see myself ever not loving what you do, just sharing my personal experiences and very deep conviction. Keep doing what you do brother. Many are watching and listening. 🙂
Tithing can be taken to the extreme, like everything
@@janelleg597 its not required, you are required to give whatever you can cheerfully, someone who gives 1 percent cheerfully is better
than someone who give more out of compulsion
Yes, tithing under the Old Covenant was about 23% annualized. But it was received from either the tithe of the land or the tithe of the herd (Leviticus 27:30-32). All within Israel. All consumable items. All under Mosaic law. And sure, the word "tithe" predated the law, but nowhere in scripture was it required by God nor is there any evidence that Abraham "tithed" more than once or that Jacob actually tithed at all. Neither God nor Jesus ever asked anyone for their money. Giving, yes. Extortion, no. And poor people receive a tithe every 3 years in the Bible. Nowhere in the Bible were the poor instructed to pay one.
So if we see tithing as it is practiced today as a "get-to-do" there's no biblical argument. But there's no biblical universal command for anyone to continuously pay 10% of their earned wages to a religious organization, and there never was. We're free to give, not bound to pay.
Money and budget are two things that come up in just about every single church staff meeting. It does get to the point where it’s kinda annoying talking about money.
Bro, Zach said you can’t even give 10% of your day!!!