That’s two top 4 showings so far. He’s getting close! If he can minimize his disadvantage and really get those hard combos in he can probably overwhelm even the best players.
Same for Spargo, Mkleo, Tweek, Fatality, Larry, Cosmos, Kola and more. "If they fix their own individual small weaknesses, they can reach the top/stay at the top". If Mkleo improved even further then he would likely start gaining more genuine 3-0s then reverse 3-0s and also cement his place at the top of smash ultimate. Don't be too narrow-minded.
Riddles did amazing this tournament and I’m hyped to see him kind of take up that Esam role where he’s such a threat for those who aren’t ready for him and for those in his way when he’s feeling hot
@@bootleg6595 ua-cam.com/video/KS_-GDNxXhM/v-deo.html he really did, but according to him, he said Richter Anyways, Cosmos was with him and he was very chill about it
@@TheKABE09 yeah he def said the nword, it was casual and low tone, didn't sound like an impulse, sounded like he forgot there was a camera and mic. Still doesn't excuse it but it's still better than using it derogatorily like esam boxing ring
Pretty sure he was dashing forward to get the immidiate turn around like the commentators said, so it didn't matter how mkleo DI'd that was just true... Kazuya is busted lmao
The Capitalistic Dictator I’m pretty sure that works with the up smash as a combo finisher, but not with the EWGFs leading up to it? could be wrong, i don’t play kazuya lol
@@arjayecho9890 I know riddles has mentioned before that there are two types of combo routes with Kazuya: those where you have to react to DI and those that don't. And I believe the one where you don't have to react you dash forward at some point. It's suppose to be more input intensive though, but still kind of ridiculous to me.
Leo has this set intimidation factor that hits you before you even battle and people respect his options too much but then Leo is also Godly at seeing your weaknesses and exploiting them tenfold which makes you get nervous and under pressure which leads to dropping combos and picking bad options this is really how Leo picks you apart
Very well put. Leo knew the power he had over him because he wasn't even respecting Riddles space most of the time. I feel like Riddles could've played better if he was a bit calmer. And that's easy to say given I'm not in his position but it's because its Kazuya, Riddles' Kazuya definitely has the potential to dominate. One thing I wished he would've done this set is not overextended in advantage and disadvantage and make use of sheilding because it would've gave him better positioning.
Man I love watching Riddles. We had our ups and downs but I still believe! And Riddles was definitely look different this tourney hitting his combos way more consistently even under a lot pressure and not crumbling in disadvantage! You will be number 1 in one of these, I believe!
I never get tired of seeing byleth. I love how his kit is designed to punish Areadbhar is fast but requires you to know where the enemy will be, Aymr is incredibly risk/reward and hype when it lands, Failnaught’s projectile takes some time to come out but hits like a truck it’s neutral air is also great for when enemies come too close.
@@yoch5383 Kazuya isn’t really a grappler in Smash, but he has some aspects of it here. He can still play his Tekken playstyle here. Even Riddles tried to do it here
I don't think Byleth is a zoner, also not in this game. Riddles just went in way too aggressive on Leo. Which allowed Leo to take a step back using bair and fair to safely distance himself from Riddles.
Riddles very rarely drops a tournament in Canada, and watching him get 2 top 4s, especially with Terry and Kazuya, is really amazing, especially with their awful disadvantage. I truly think he could have beaten light in the run back if he stopped overusing crackshoot to get onstage, but there’s not much you can do when you meet MkLeo in losers. I really love both these players and I’m super happy with Riddles performances lately, maybe top 10 if this keeps up? Anyways, Canada represent woo
@@S1neWav_ the reason I call it bad is because it’s not bad at first, throughout the set, you start to realize that the character struggles to land, and recovers the same way a lot. Crackshoot becomes too predictable, as seen in the set with Light, and he doesn’t have many mixups.
@@mysticsquirtle5109 most other characters just don't have the landing mixups he does. also you're neglecting that fox makes everyone's disadvantage look worse than it really is. terry doesn't have excellent landing options but i wouldn't say he "struggles to land" like lucas or sora. it's just fox being good terrys only real weakness is his recovery
@@S1neWav_ I would not say it’s awful, but it’s not good by any means, any character with a decent punish option can just juggle him and react to what he does, he’s not a fast faller and doesn’t have good options to get to the ground. Also what good options does he have? Crackshoot from ledge? The thing he should only be able to do once or twice a game against anyone that knows how to adapt? His options from getting off ledge or land are just as good, if not worse than his recovery.
Riddles does so well with momentum. Sometimes his movement with Kazuya is 10/10 and sometimes he falls into a habit of picking the same options. I feel like if riddle can break this habit and make his movement more consistent he would easily be a top 5 player in the world
Gotta be honest, I don't see the hype around Riddles' Kazuya. He relies heavily on EWGF and this match showed how it can screw him over. I'll admit he has good reads and some mix ups, and he's undeniably a skilled player, but I feel like he uses the same tricks too often.
I like that you don't slander riddles, and I can respect where your coming from, it's simply that a lot of people (including me) like seeing a character eho can deliver a high amount of damage quickly, it just keeps you on the edge of your seat
Riddles had a good run. That dropped 3rd EWGF loop in that one set hurt to see. Just goes to show how much technical proficiency you need to fully utilize the character r
Kazuya is one of the most ridiculously cheesy characters to fight - any conversion into EWGF means instant death, and he's covered with plenty armour and invulnerability. But he's still amazingly hilarious to watch, especially in Riddles' hands. Love hearing the crowd go wild when Riddles gets in
@@pikachuketchum9767 That's a terrible idea. It's too fast to parry on reaction, and the risk way outweighs the reward. Since I play a sword character, I can just stand back and challenge it with a disjoint anyways, which is much safer and easier. Regardless, just because EWGF has counterplay doesn't make it not an insanely cheap option. (Despite that, I don't think Kazuya is broken at all) (Wait god damn it I took a shitpost seriously again)
Riddles wasn't getting his signature combos on Leo, that's the only reason why he didnt close the gap. Don't be mistaken, this MU is even, byleth is actual combo caviar for kaz
Agreed. Leo respected the close distance Kazuya needs to get his combo's going. Using the range Byleth has to safely backtrack and attack from distance. Once Kazuya was in disadvantage Riddles had hard time coming down or back on stage. Slow predictable air mobility..
In all honestly, as much as I love Riddles, this set looked like the top player at a local beating the average Joe. Riddles is a phenomenal player but it honestly felt in the last two games like Leo was done humoring him and decided to go all out. He stomped him. Congrats to Riddles for doing so well but against Leo losing is almost always an inevitability.
if anything, watching Riddles fight Light and Leo shows that his disadvantage needs some work. His characters are naturally bad in disadvantage, but its either time to use more Roy or work on some of his habits. good stuff to Riddles though. He's the future.
The pain of Kazuya disadvantage…plus Riddles is really aggressive, always wanting to pressure his opponent. Leo adapted to that, especially since he had already fought Riddles in 3 sets at Squad Strike.
Very excited that Riddles is doing work, but he has taken games on Leo in the past. In fact, he did it years ago with Ken against Leo's Joker. That was a pretty hype set.
That Kazuya disadvantage was rough to watch. Does anyone know why he went Kazuya instead of Terry for the matchup? I don't play either, but it def seems like Terry had more tools to gap close.
Perfection at 7:25 . Can someone what's the name o the moves and or inputs he uses to stun/paralyze them in the combo. I know one stun is the electric god Fist something but is other stun love the same because he stuns differently. I'm wondering what the name of those moves are and Inputs if anyone know and wouldn't mind sharing that information on o-Kazuya. Again that combo was godlike
Muscle memory and opponent conditioning. Anybody can do it fr but some people(like leo) are better/faster at building that skill. Also making it a habit to keep your eye on the opponent's character and not yours
@@McEezy94 If Leo decides to play call of duty one day, I wouldn't be surprised if he starts headshoting everyone using only snipers while jumping 360°, with no scope. I swear.
I think he’s just really calm many people get really scared but Leo is so used to it at this point so he doesn’t get scared or nervous. Super hyped riddles made it this far
nah, a lot of professional players can suprise leo like this, leo is the best of the world because he never lost his adaptative spirit even in the worst situations
Me gusta ver a Riddles porque aprendo a jugar Kazuya viéndolo, es de mis jugadores favoritos, sin embargo creo que su forma de recuperarse y landear en el stage es demasiado castigable
Srsly. Commenters cheering R's Z2D, then saying it's "Unfortunate" when L did it. Look how many hits it takes L/Byleth to Z2D, & then divide by 2 for R/Kaz
Lol, the entirety left of top 8 was top players. You send Proto, Leo, Light, Gluto, Sparg0, Kola, Shuton, Gluto, Riddles, Zomba, for example to one tournament. It's just bound to happen xD.
@@sleepyyyyyyyyyyyyy Wdym? I’ve only seen like 4-5 Kazuya players on this earth who do this consistently. If you’re real talking about basic shitty Kazuya “cheezers”, I’m pointing on the 10 hit spammers I see everywhere online.
Kazuya players look at the blue DI line that appears on the opponent’s character model to determine the correct follow-up. The problem is that people can mix-up their DI as the hitstun is about to end which makes Kazuya have to guess. Kazuya’s meta evolved recently by the way they were able to tech chase on platforms and the dash they do after the electric (essentially covers DI in and DI away).
Riddles has been a top player for years. Also this line of logic is like asking ganon to be nerfed because he deals the same amount of damage if not moreso
@@shaghilathar3588 Nah Ganon is nerfed already with that speed lol but Ganon does not have a combo game like kazuya. Also, Kazuya gets even nastier after certain % and the down b (which you cant shield, cause its a grab) does like 60% damage and kills at 40-50% depending on the weight of the character. With kazuya you just tap A and he does a full combo for free
@@Mercerplays What the hell are you even talking about? Ganon has TWO command grabs and no attack kazuya has can do more than 40 or kill earlier than 70. Kazuya has combo game yes but he also is just as slow as ganon if not slower in certain moves. Even sakurai himself showed this. And if you're honestly saying 10 hit combo( which is is literal meme in both smash and Tekken) is what you're struggling with then you're straight trash because that move actually has the highest SDI multiplier in the game
@@Mercerplays Literally no top player thinks so, no tier list says this and even if he was he requires way more execution than any other character to get to that level anyway
Protobanham’s strategy vs Leo in summit, he’s trying to emulate that strategy. If he goes solo, it’s usually due to the matchup, for characters like Samus, he’ll stick with Terry cause Kazuya will get stuck at ledge forever. In Byleth’s case, I’m guessing he went Kazuya cause Terry struggles to recover. Byleth can snuff out Terry’s recovery when he recovers high with the disjoints. Recovering low with Up B is not a good option too cause Terry’s Up B doesn’t snap ledge, and Leo is good at landing the downair.
@@jasonlobo2350 No way. It’s about even on stage. Byleth range stunts Kazuya trying to get in and is one of the only characters that come close to the absurd kill power of Kazuya. Once they’re off stage or on the ledge it’s not even close. Byleth has a million ways to edge guard or ledge trap Kazuyas terrible disadvantage and recovery.
People are saying byleth is getting carried by Leo And yes he is but people are DEF sleeping on how stupid byleth kit is If byleth was even like middle speed or airspeed he would be top 10
Vidéo lenght does spoil it at some parts... There was a time this channel added like extra time at the end so I wouldn't accidentally know the ending lol
Ggs! Byleth obliterates Terry even harder than Kaz since Terry can neither edgeguard Byleth nor defend against an edgeguarding Byleth as well as Kazuya Terry also doesnt have a projectile, reflector, nor projectile invincible moves so Byleth really is one of Terry's worst matchups
@@shaghilathar3588 when did I say I was crying? And when did I say he was at the top? He’s also definitely mid tier, but like we saw in the video, what was the hitbox on his forward kick??? And as commentators said, he spends half the game blue lol
@@shaghilathar3588 last time I saw him do that he played him like a smash character, no wavedash, no electrics and used more smash attacks than usual. Is there a clip of him playing some actual Kazuya? I would love to see Leo's take on that character.
Man...Riddles can't really win with a carry character. It would suck to lose with a character that is super heavy, can kill you in 3 hits, 90% of his moves have super armor, priority and invincibility and your only weakness is ground speed and range.
Honestly they should've reworked/nerf'd Byleth's Nair. The 'final hitbox' is absolute baloney~ After the 'chain spin' hitboxes (those make sense) It has a very awkward *pause* into a disjointed circle hitbox. More over, it doesn't even have visual OR audio representation to express that disjoint : / Timing a meaningful parry feels nearly impossible. TL;DR - How often do you see people parry Byleth's Nair? I rest my case.
Seriously I was thinking the same thing. Man was pressing BUTTONS. The nair spam was fucking crazy. I think riddles should have shielded more in those final games and chosen some OOS options (maybe up B?) to keep Leo off. But what do I know both of em are insanely good
@@sidbazzy1 don't hate the player hate the game. Although I am mad about these playstyles existing, it is the reasonable choice. They are not trying to have fun, they are close to the top of a tournament. Kazuya here is playing Tekken, the only way someone could fight him without spaming zoning moves would be playing Tekken themselves, which only Kazuya can do right now in this game. Even shotos and Terry can struggle to fight Kazuya face to face and competitive fighting games are all about minimizing the mistakes and disadvantages. If any character would get melee with Kazuya he would risk getting predicted once and possibly losing a stock there, while playing from range minimizes that risk. If you wanna see some actual Kazuya playing against opponents that don't zone him and both have chances to show some moves then go watch some Tekken, but even there it will be dificult to see some tournament action for Kazuya since he has almost no plus moves and relies mostly on prediction, making him unfavorable for tournament play.
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That’s two top 4 showings so far. He’s getting close! If he can minimize his disadvantage and really get those hard combos in he can probably overwhelm even the best players.
Most likely
Same for Spargo, Mkleo, Tweek, Fatality, Larry, Cosmos, Kola and more. "If they fix their own individual small weaknesses, they can reach the top/stay at the top". If Mkleo improved even further then he would likely start gaining more genuine 3-0s then reverse 3-0s and also cement his place at the top of smash ultimate. Don't be too narrow-minded.
@@ambiguous8661 dude shut up with the open minded ness crap you sounds stupid
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"Narrow-minded."
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@@ambiguous8661 says the one being a smartass against a supportive comment.
Riddles did amazing this tournament and I’m hyped to see him kind of take up that Esam role where he’s such a threat for those who aren’t ready for him and for those in his way when he’s feeling hot
Also both said the nword on stream
@@gustavoaravenacid3066 riddles really did? send link
@@gustavoaravenacid3066 also funny boxing ring
@@bootleg6595 ua-cam.com/video/KS_-GDNxXhM/v-deo.html he really did, but according to him, he said Richter
Anyways, Cosmos was with him and he was very chill about it
@@TheKABE09 yeah he def said the nword, it was casual and low tone, didn't sound like an impulse, sounded like he forgot there was a camera and mic. Still doesn't excuse it but it's still better than using it derogatorily like esam boxing ring
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if you think 7:25 is cool, consider the fact that leo is mixing up DI which makes it ridiculously hard to keep those chains going
Riddles still shitter leo better
Shonen 3 among us
Pretty sure he was dashing forward to get the immidiate turn around like the commentators said, so it didn't matter how mkleo DI'd that was just true... Kazuya is busted lmao
The Capitalistic Dictator I’m pretty sure that works with the up smash as a combo finisher, but not with the EWGFs leading up to it? could be wrong, i don’t play kazuya lol
@@arjayecho9890 I know riddles has mentioned before that there are two types of combo routes with Kazuya: those where you have to react to DI and those that don't. And I believe the one where you don't have to react you dash forward at some point. It's suppose to be more input intensive though, but still kind of ridiculous to me.
11:10 Leo's movement to get back on stage was so extra and i love it lol
He’s so toxic…
9:25 love the zoom in on the guy with the weird mask/hair combo. As if production knew what the viewer wanted
I think that's technicals, best smash commentator out there
this was me lmao I did not pick a good day to try that shit
Leo has this set intimidation factor that hits you before you even battle and people respect his options too much but then Leo is also Godly at seeing your weaknesses and exploiting them tenfold which makes you get nervous and under pressure which leads to dropping combos and picking bad options this is really how Leo picks you apart
Very well put. Leo knew the power he had over him because he wasn't even respecting Riddles space most of the time. I feel like Riddles could've played better if he was a bit calmer. And that's easy to say given I'm not in his position but it's because its Kazuya, Riddles' Kazuya definitely has the potential to dominate. One thing I wished he would've done this set is not overextended in advantage and disadvantage and make use of sheilding because it would've gave him better positioning.
Actually, Leo is very, VERY spammer
Man I love watching Riddles. We had our ups and downs but I still believe! And Riddles was definitely look different this tourney hitting his combos way more consistently even under a lot pressure and not crumbling in disadvantage! You will be number 1 in one of these, I believe!
I never get tired of seeing byleth. I love how his kit is designed to punish Areadbhar is fast but requires you to know where the enemy will be, Aymr is incredibly risk/reward and hype when it lands, Failnaught’s projectile takes some time to come out but hits like a truck it’s neutral air is also great for when enemies come too close.
People who complain about spoilers in the comments: 🤓
People who deliberately go to the comments so they can quickly see who wins the set: 💪😁
This set is the definition of a Zoner vs Grappler battle and Riddles just couldn’t get in by Game 3
kazuya is considered as grappler in smash ? Woaw in tekken is more like defensive 50/50 character
@@yoch5383 This isn't tekken though
@@yoch5383 Kazuya isn’t really a grappler in Smash, but he has some aspects of it here. He can still play his Tekken playstyle here. Even Riddles tried to do it here
@@Terrabyte13 He was just comparing how he's viewed in smash Vs tekken
I don't think Byleth is a zoner, also not in this game.
Riddles just went in way too aggressive on Leo. Which allowed Leo to take a step back using bair and fair to safely distance himself from Riddles.
Just proud our boy took a game. But mkleo came to play today. Ruthless
At least riddles won 1 game thats all I’m happy about ngl
Riddles very rarely drops a tournament in Canada, and watching him get 2 top 4s, especially with Terry and Kazuya, is really amazing, especially with their awful disadvantage. I truly think he could have beaten light in the run back if he stopped overusing crackshoot to get onstage, but there’s not much you can do when you meet MkLeo in losers. I really love both these players and I’m super happy with Riddles performances lately, maybe top 10 if this keeps up? Anyways, Canada represent woo
terry disadvantage isn't even bad
@@S1neWav_ the reason I call it bad is because it’s not bad at first, throughout the set, you start to realize that the character struggles to land, and recovers the same way a lot. Crackshoot becomes too predictable, as seen in the set with Light, and he doesn’t have many mixups.
@@mysticsquirtle5109 most other characters just don't have the landing mixups he does. also you're neglecting that fox makes everyone's disadvantage look worse than it really is. terry doesn't have excellent landing options but i wouldn't say he "struggles to land" like lucas or sora. it's just fox being good
terrys only real weakness is his recovery
@@S1neWav_ I would not say it’s awful, but it’s not good by any means, any character with a decent punish option can just juggle him and react to what he does, he’s not a fast faller and doesn’t have good options to get to the ground. Also what good options does he have? Crackshoot from ledge? The thing he should only be able to do once or twice a game against anyone that knows how to adapt? His options from getting off ledge or land are just as good, if not worse than his recovery.
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4 sets in 13 minutes, the back in forth is some of the best smash to watch
8:56 damn that troll platform
Set that man up bad
Served him on a platter and Leo took a bite from it
I'm saying. Leo is as lucky as he is good. Possibly more so. That's not the first time these platforms have said. "I got you homie"
Another top 4 showing for riddles. He will win a major soon!!! Great job riddles, representing the FGC very well
The combo at 5:13 was absolutely incredible
It’s always such a treat watching Riddles play
Riddles does so well with momentum. Sometimes his movement with Kazuya is 10/10 and sometimes he falls into a habit of picking the same options. I feel like if riddle can break this habit and make his movement more consistent he would easily be a top 5 player in the world
yep, this. riddles does become elder god tier at certain points in sets, but he still desperately needs to maintain that status more consistently.
LeoからRIDDLESにグータッチしに行くのやっぱり好感持てる🤜⋆͛🤛
the day riddles wins a major will be the hypest day in samsh 2022 no doubt
Gotta be honest, I don't see the hype around Riddles' Kazuya. He relies heavily on EWGF and this match showed how it can screw him over. I'll admit he has good reads and some mix ups, and he's undeniably a skilled player, but I feel like he uses the same tricks too often.
I like that you don't slander riddles, and I can respect where your coming from, it's simply that a lot of people (including me) like seeing a character eho can deliver a high amount of damage quickly, it just keeps you on the edge of your seat
To use all of kazuyas moves dynamically may not be optimal or possible for a human player
*Riddles is carried
Riddles had a good run. That dropped 3rd EWGF loop in that one set hurt to see. Just goes to show how much technical proficiency you need to fully utilize the character r
Complex button inputs be like
Ewgf is hard af to input for me at least
Leo is so good. Ok that first stock in game three from Riddles was disgusting
I love seeing kazuya at such a high level I hope to get my movement on kazuya as good as riddles someday
Kazuya is one of the most ridiculously cheesy characters to fight - any conversion into EWGF means instant death, and he's covered with plenty armour and invulnerability. But he's still amazingly hilarious to watch, especially in Riddles' hands. Love hearing the crowd go wild when Riddles gets in
He has rough time trying to get close though
EWGF is also barely committal, and safe on block, and it has s.
Cheesy asf, I feel bad for anyone who can't space him out
@@Liezuli just parry it and punish not hard lolol
@@pikachuketchum9767 That's a terrible idea. It's too fast to parry on reaction, and the risk way outweighs the reward.
Since I play a sword character, I can just stand back and challenge it with a disjoint anyways, which is much safer and easier.
Regardless, just because EWGF has counterplay doesn't make it not an insanely cheap option. (Despite that, I don't think Kazuya is broken at all)
(Wait god damn it I took a shitpost seriously again)
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Riddles wasn't getting his signature combos on Leo, that's the only reason why he didnt close the gap. Don't be mistaken, this MU is even, byleth is actual combo caviar for kaz
Agreed. Leo respected the close distance Kazuya needs to get his combo's going. Using the range Byleth has to safely backtrack and attack from distance.
Once Kazuya was in disadvantage Riddles had hard time coming down or back on stage. Slow predictable air mobility..
Riddles fought hard but MKLeo was ruthless
In all honestly, as much as I love Riddles, this set looked like the top player at a local beating the average Joe. Riddles is a phenomenal player but it honestly felt in the last two games like Leo was done humoring him and decided to go all out. He stomped him. Congrats to Riddles for doing so well but against Leo losing is almost always an inevitability.
True but it think it’s the matchup more than anything. Terry sucks ass against Byleth. My buddy is a Terry main and it gets rough.
if anything, watching Riddles fight Light and Leo shows that his disadvantage needs some work. His characters are naturally bad in disadvantage, but its either time to use more Roy or work on some of his habits.
good stuff to Riddles though. He's the future.
The pain of Kazuya disadvantage…plus Riddles is really aggressive, always wanting to pressure his opponent. Leo adapted to that, especially since he had already fought Riddles in 3 sets at Squad Strike.
Gluttony: and i took that personally
Magnus Rage if kazuya didn’t have bad disadvantage he’d be absolutely broken. did you see the those combos?
i would have loved to see riddles in losers final but you can't stop mkleo
Glutonny can apparently
Glutonny: and I took that personally
Can’t stop Leo consistently*
@@voodooedits785 we'll see what the king of europe can do when they verse again :)
@@tatara822 I’m sure Leo would be more prepared in the wario mu as nobody beats him more than 2x post quarantine matches. In July
Even though pitted and lost against Mkleo. Riddles in top 4 isn't that bad at all. He still destined to become something great sooner or later.
he's great already come on
He’s really good and even one of his secondaries is really good in the belmont characters. He’ll probably keep improving
@@toastedtarts4044 you mean richter
@@DavionLane waddup my richter
@@DavionLane i didn’t know which one he played but I know one of them
This video came up in recommendations but isn't even on their channel yet?
Same here!
I’m pretty sure it was unlisted at the time
6:25 I kept hitting rewind just for the LoL. Astounding analysis. Love this tournament.
When Byleth was Nairing his hair I feel like throwing up smash to armor through and punish may have been a solid option.
It's always fun to see Leo playing with Byleth
Very excited that Riddles is doing work, but he has taken games on Leo in the past. In fact, he did it years ago with Ken against Leo's Joker. That was a pretty hype set.
That Kazuya disadvantage was rough to watch. Does anyone know why he went Kazuya instead of Terry for the matchup? I don't play either, but it def seems like Terry had more tools to gap close.
Probably just felt like kazuya could do it
I think his Richter has some stuff to fight against Leo too, but I think he's very comfortable with Kazuya.
Perfection at 7:25 . Can someone what's the name o the moves and or inputs he uses to stun/paralyze them in the combo. I know one stun is the electric god Fist something but is other stun love the same because he stuns differently. I'm wondering what the name of those moves are and Inputs if anyone know and wouldn't mind sharing that information on o-Kazuya. Again that combo was godlike
how does leo get into that mode where he reads like everything. legit telepathy or something?
He's a robot. 😉
Muscle memory and opponent conditioning. Anybody can do it fr but some people(like leo) are better/faster at building that skill. Also making it a habit to keep your eye on the opponent's character and not yours
@@McEezy94 If Leo decides to play call of duty one day, I wouldn't be surprised if he starts headshoting everyone using only snipers while jumping 360°, with no scope. I swear.
I think he’s just really calm many people get really scared but Leo is so used to it at this point so he doesn’t get scared or nervous. Super hyped riddles made it this far
Riddles won my heart ❤
Mkleo won the match
"Kazuya is a fair character"
*Proceeds to 0 to death MKLeo, even though he is clearly the better player*
nah, a lot of professional players can suprise leo like this, leo is the best of the world because he never lost his adaptative spirit even in the worst situations
Wtf? Tons of people have done that with loads of characters. Kazuyas not better than bylteh
This mans logic: I'm the better player so your combo doesn't work lol
Me gusta ver a Riddles porque aprendo a jugar Kazuya viéndolo, es de mis jugadores favoritos, sin embargo creo que su forma de recuperarse y landear en el stage es demasiado castigable
Dam riddles taking a game off of mkleo is really good hope he improves from this. They are both really young riddles kayuza godlike
7:26
IS THAT SONIC UNLEASHED MUSIC I HEAR!?!?!!?
I don't know if that's the case, but it almost always seems that they want Leo to lose, both commenters and the public 🤔
Srsly. Commenters cheering R's Z2D, then saying it's "Unfortunate" when L did it.
Look how many hits it takes L/Byleth to Z2D, & then divide by 2 for R/Kaz
I'm really surprised both Leo and Riddles ended up in Losers Bracket, they're literally top players
Well this is top 4 of a major, there can only be 2 players who aren't in losers.
Lol, the entirety left of top 8 was top players. You send Proto, Leo, Light, Gluto, Sparg0, Kola, Shuton, Gluto, Riddles, Zomba, for example to one tournament. It's just bound to happen xD.
7:25 is this standard Kazuya stuff, haven’t played smash in a while. This combo looks fucking nuts.
Yeah pretty standard for Kazuya cheesers
"Standard", like that, quote on quote, because only Riddles is consistent doing so
@@sleepyyyyyyyyyyyyy Wdym? I’ve only seen like 4-5 Kazuya players on this earth who do this consistently.
If you’re real talking about basic shitty Kazuya “cheezers”, I’m pointing on the 10 hit spammers I see everywhere online.
Kazuya players look at the blue DI line that appears on the opponent’s character model to determine the correct follow-up. The problem is that people can mix-up their DI as the hitstun is about to end which makes Kazuya have to guess. Kazuya’s meta evolved recently by the way they were able to tech chase on platforms and the dash they do after the electric (essentially covers DI in and DI away).
@@TheKABE09 actually thats ferps tech Ferps do it to because he invented it
Never heard of riddles until Kazuya came out. Kazuya is just TOO OP. 2-3 hits n youre a 72%
Riddles has been a top player for years. Also this line of logic is like asking ganon to be nerfed because he deals the same amount of damage if not moreso
@@shaghilathar3588 Nah Ganon is nerfed already with that speed lol but Ganon does not have a combo game like kazuya. Also, Kazuya gets even nastier after certain % and the down b (which you cant shield, cause its a grab) does like 60% damage and kills at 40-50% depending on the weight of the character. With kazuya you just tap A and he does a full combo for free
@@Mercerplays What the hell are you even talking about? Ganon has TWO command grabs and no attack kazuya has can do more than 40 or kill earlier than 70. Kazuya has combo game yes but he also is just as slow as ganon if not slower in certain moves. Even sakurai himself showed this.
And if you're honestly saying 10 hit combo( which is is literal meme in both smash and Tekken) is what you're struggling with then you're straight trash because that move actually has the highest SDI multiplier in the game
@@shaghilathar3588 No matter what you say, Kazuya is still way too op.
@@Mercerplays Literally no top player thinks so, no tier list says this and even if he was he requires way more execution than any other character to get to that level anyway
Does anyone know the reason for when he goes solo Terry or kazuya vs flipping between them after every game?
Protobanham’s strategy vs Leo in summit, he’s trying to emulate that strategy. If he goes solo, it’s usually due to the matchup, for characters like Samus, he’ll stick with Terry cause Kazuya will get stuck at ledge forever.
In Byleth’s case, I’m guessing he went Kazuya cause Terry struggles to recover. Byleth can snuff out Terry’s recovery when he recovers high with the disjoints. Recovering low with Up B is not a good option too cause Terry’s Up B doesn’t snap ledge, and Leo is good at landing the downair.
Max & TK are a 🐐d duo.
This game is riddled with clips from both sides
HBox may be right..
Riddles could be the future of this game.
Is there a Instagram that announces these big tournaments ? I wanna gooo
4:28 thats called a misinput, Happens to the best of us.
WAS THAT THE OST OF THAT ONE ICE STAGE IN SONIC UNLEASHED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE VIDEO
I miss seeing Riddles lose
I'm just shocked that either of these dudes are in Loser's
Man this is a very tough matchup for Kazuya
Its even
@@jasonlobo2350 No way. It’s about even on stage. Byleth range stunts Kazuya trying to get in and is one of the only characters that come close to the absurd kill power of Kazuya. Once they’re off stage or on the ledge it’s not even close. Byleth has a million ways to edge guard or ledge trap Kazuyas terrible disadvantage and recovery.
5:13 great call. Shoutout to Jay
:)
I watched this on 0.25x speed, it was even more engaging
@7:18 what an answer!!!
People are saying byleth is getting carried by Leo
And yes he is but people are DEF sleeping on how stupid byleth kit is
If byleth was even like middle speed or airspeed he would be top 10
この手の即死キャラはmkLeo戦、拒否されまくって頭おかしくなりそう
I don't imagine a world where Riddles ever takes the set off Leo's Byleth with Kazuya
Yeah Leo too good and never lost his cool. Ggs from Riddles I think he can be top 5 in the world eventually.
Terry definitely has a much better shot in this matchup
@Master Shifu idk man terry might be better
Vidéo lenght does spoil it at some parts... There was a time this channel added like extra time at the end so I wouldn't accidentally know the ending lol
Not really, theyve done that only for frostbite events
@@AlanJHPlata yeah I'm referring to then when they tried out out I kinda want them to use that again
I like the way how Leo dominates this set
They are both combo masters. So this sat was👍
I wonder how bad he would be without Byleth's neutral air LOL
7:27 HOLY SHIT WHAT WAS THAT?
Waiting for them to show squad strike👀👀👀
Don’t give a shit about mkleo just love watching riddles play kazuya and terry
Love to see riddles take a game
Ggs! Byleth obliterates Terry even harder than Kaz since Terry can neither edgeguard Byleth nor defend against an edgeguarding Byleth as well as Kazuya
Terry also doesnt have a projectile, reflector, nor projectile invincible moves so Byleth really is one of Terry's worst matchups
CHARLIE, PLEASE PICK UP RIDDLES!!!
What kinda move was that in 4:30 he l charged it up
The fact he can go head to head with Leo shows how absolute bs kazuya is
Means byleth is more BS
@Master Shifu Mate I don't think you know what luck is
@@shaghilathar3588 😂😂 byleth is super mid tier dude
@@user-wj1hp7on9k If you're crying about how BS kazuya is then literally watch any tier list video. Hes far from the top
@@shaghilathar3588 when did I say I was crying? And when did I say he was at the top? He’s also definitely mid tier, but like we saw in the video, what was the hitbox on his forward kick??? And as commentators said, he spends half the game blue lol
べレス及びカズヤ使いの俺、参考にしてる人同士とかいう最高のカード
I wish i was there to see it live
damn! leo had kazuya all figured out
He plays the character himself at locals
@@shaghilathar3588 last time I saw him do that he played him like a smash character, no wavedash, no electrics and used more smash attacks than usual. Is there a clip of him playing some actual Kazuya? I would love to see Leo's take on that character.
I saw the spartan kick happening (>tilt)
海外勢カズヤミシマ好きすぎだろ
ゴキステどーやるん？
5:02 he hit the Ferps at 69 !! Lfg
Man...Riddles can't really win with a carry character. It would suck to lose with a character that is super heavy, can kill you in 3 hits, 90% of his moves have super armor, priority and invincibility and your only weakness is ground speed and range.
Love stupid comments like this xD
Op got fucked by a kazuya online
@@jasonlobo2350 The ignorance is amazing sometimes lol
@@BalianBlue_ when you don't understand mechanical skill and neutral game all you see is damage
Free Mkleo masterclass
5:46こーゆーとこすき
top 1 kazuya vs top 1 player of all time
I think Riddles was kinda nervous, am I right?
He seemed nervous the match before with Zomba too, missing a lotta techs 😥 hopefully experience will get him there
Honestly they should've reworked/nerf'd Byleth's Nair. The 'final hitbox' is absolute baloney~ After the 'chain spin' hitboxes (those make sense) It has a very awkward *pause* into a disjointed circle hitbox. More over, it doesn't even have visual OR audio representation to express that disjoint : / Timing a meaningful parry feels nearly impossible.
TL;DR - How often do you see people parry Byleth's Nair? I rest my case.
Overreaction
Watch light vs mkleo at summit to watch counter play against byleth nair
LETS GO LEO
7:25 yakuza combo!!
下手したら世界最強をも破壊しかねない。事件が起きる日は近いのかもしれない。
と言いつつ、カズヤがベレトに崖端に追い詰められたら他のキャラより一層きつそうだな
Kazuya is just fully broken.
7:27 nothing was happend
leo becomes a right spammer when he gets salty lol
Seriously I was thinking the same thing. Man was pressing BUTTONS. The nair spam was fucking crazy. I think riddles should have shielded more in those final games and chosen some OOS options (maybe up B?) to keep Leo off. But what do I know both of em are insanely good
@@sidbazzy1 don't hate the player hate the game. Although I am mad about these playstyles existing, it is the reasonable choice. They are not trying to have fun, they are close to the top of a tournament. Kazuya here is playing Tekken, the only way someone could fight him without spaming zoning moves would be playing Tekken themselves, which only Kazuya can do right now in this game. Even shotos and Terry can struggle to fight Kazuya face to face and competitive fighting games are all about minimizing the mistakes and disadvantages. If any character would get melee with Kazuya he would risk getting predicted once and possibly losing a stock there, while playing from range minimizes that risk. If you wanna see some actual Kazuya playing against opponents that don't zone him and both have chances to show some moves then go watch some Tekken, but even there it will be dificult to see some tournament action for Kazuya since he has almost no plus moves and relies mostly on prediction, making him unfavorable for tournament play.
Kazuya is a whack asf character, literally dead from one hit if u play him right
MKLeo THE BEST IN THE WORLD
Pobre kazuya que no vio que no podia jugarle tan pegado a ese man .. No uso ningunos de sus golpes solo por buscar combos bonito que fiasco.