Janne has gone from being kind of dumb and self-defeatingly self-absorbed to quite a bit smarter, a true friend, and now heroic. As Moldilocks said on a previous episode, "it's called growing up." True, but it doesn't always look this good. I'm impressed that the show and the actor have made this transformation convincing.
Janne is a really good friend. I'm glad he stuck up for Lari. However, I must say the end is a bit unrealistic. Lari is a lot more muscled than all three of those bullies and even though it's 3 v. 1 there's no way Lari wouldn't have been able to extract himself from their grip. I hope he's not too badly hurt though and I am looking forward to the next part.
Yeah, that's why there was just summer in this story and now early fall. The seasons follow the filming schedule and not the actual seasons in Finland. Related to this I heard from article that Ronny (Lari) and Ari-Matti (Lari's dad) are 100% sure still filming new episodes and Ronny's still has much contract left so Lari is not gonna disappear anywhere from the show in near future :) So Lari will be at least in the episodes shot now which will probably air at the start of next fall :)
Janne is an amazing friend to Elias and Lari he is so brave to stand up for them to the other boys. But Lari is in pain he clearly does not accept being gay of course he is going to push Elias away. Lari is going through so much confusion and pain he wants to be an NHL player and he feels that Elias being around him hurts his chances of reaching his goal.
Lari's naïveté at the end is really painful to watch. He really thought his friends were okay with everything just like that and then he's betrayed. :'(
Well this show has over 20 characters, not just Lari and Elias. Of course there's more show but it's about other characters and their stories too so 3-7 minutes is what we got every time...
I think it's cos Ronny (Lari) was promoted as a main character when before he was only a minor character :) Anyway these episodes have already been shot in last September so it was before they knew about the international success, so it can't have affected the fact that their air time is bit longer.
Didn't think so but it would have made sense to me. Thanks for the upload as always, as I don't always mention it... and Thanks for the answers that your provide to all of us :]
He's a teenaged hockey player, not a professional wrestler. In real life, when one person is set upon by 5, they can't just bust out the magic moves as the gang comes at them conveniently one at a time.
Yeah it was similar, Deniz played ice hockey, everyone knew Roman was gay... ect. it used to be on UA-cam but i think it got deleted. If you find it, its worth a watch
I think your right, but Kimi's interest in Lari's sexuality is beyond normal. He is definitely more interested in Lari's sexuality then the rest of the hockey team. Lari wasn't even this interested in Elias at first. Kimi's got some kinda motives.
Salatut Elämät, a Finnish soap and this story is an on going one so new parts appear here as they air from tv. First 34 parts are in the channel of Monpensiers88 and the rest here. Hopefully you enjoy the story :)
Yeah Lari is 16 year old boy who feels more than lost at the moment, he's not an adult who can handle the situation wisely. His behavior and feelings are not under his control and he's just mad at whole world and doesn't trust anybody or anything. And he was not just huffing to Elias but Janne as well...
I love Janne because he is so nice to Lari even he's gay... But that's not proplem :33 I just love how he tried to talk to those other jerks.. Janne is so good looking ♥
Phew! Somebody else thinks Lari was hit with gloves, not skates. It looked like skates, and I felt kinda sick...that would be savage. I see there's debate about Kimi, and that's good. The more people look at and analyze homophobia, the better.
yay to Janne. My hero at the moment. I doubt Lari is gonna take this bullying lying down - even if it means he has to get up again first, if you see what I mean . . . . .
And that's why they play farm which isn't as physical as actual NHL cos they are not physically ready for that. Anyway currently for example Kasperi Kapanen 16 and Aleksandr Barkov Jr 17 have been shining in SM liga. Past years names like Mikael Granlund, Joel Armia and Joonas Donskoi were young stars.
It could also be that Kimi just wants to get rid of Lari to become the new captain/leader and that's why is trying to make everybody else hate Lari and scare the hell out of him so he would give up...
About Petteri (Elias) I don't know cos the article wasn't about him at all so it's not a surprise there was no info about Petteri...But I think he's shooting too :)
I do not relate to the story but feel bad for the people having a hard time coming out. Everybody that experienced violence and so on... But I would also like to express how many people, including myself do not have a problem being who they are. I am happy to live in a tolerant society, and never experienced violence because my sexuality, never have been in a fight before !. So for that reason I think it is important to point out that there is more positivity than negativity :-)
Deniz and Roman pretty much don't exist on You tube any longer. After the end of their story the girls who uploaded didn't continue Deniz story. The network which allowed them to post had an assurance that when the storyline finished all uploads would be removed. You can find the odd short video here and there of compilations etc but of little storyline content.
So the "Kimi is closeted gay" theory seems to become popular :D So the Finnish girls who already thought last week the same might have been the first to notice this thing if it turns out to be true...
OK it would be labouring a point to keep going. I thank god that our young players are treated with such respect for the long term when you consider so many recently retired players are showing signs of severe head injuries...
If Lari got in he wouldn't still play NHL for years but would go to farm team as he said himself. That's how it happens. Once you succeed in farm and are 18 or 18+ you might be promoted to actual team...
He hasn't transformed. He's out numbered. Period. End of. Gay or straight, your average teenager is not going to be able to go all Chuck Norris when he is outnumbered 6 to 1 with two people holding him back. He knew the beating was coming so he took it. That has nothing to do with being gay/straight. He just wanted to get it over with and hope for the best. He's not some comic book super hero with magic powers and super strength. You can't compare him bullying 1 person (elias or tale) to this.
Redonner le couple qui forme avec Elias pour tué cette homophobie dans me sport et donne plus d importance ouvré les porte de l'amour le plus lontemp dans cette série que l'homophobie ne soie pas la victoire de le haine de l'homme vive Elias pour son combat de l'amour
Hi everybody, next part will be up today, but I'm not home yet and won't be in about an hour so I'll only start subbing then. Which unfortunately means late upload, sorry.
Unfortunately, this was posted on the channel which used to have that story: "All videos were removed on 2 November 2011 at the request of the copyright holder, RTL, Grundy Ufa. This action is irreversible and there will be no reuploads of this material, for legal reasons. Thanks for your support for the past 3 years!"
Lari knows he can lead in some areas. After all, he was respected as the captain of the team. But fear of his dad and Lari's own internalized homophobia led him to bully Elias and talk trash. As far as we know, his awful dad still doesn't know. From what we saw today, he showed up for practice, but he has yet to take the bull by the horns. He can't just let Janne be his spokesperson.
But that's how it goes here, it isn't uncommon at all that the most talented ones get to camps, etc. in USA and Canada or even play in smaller teams already in about the age of 16. And then the NHL teams reserve the players in Drafts when they are 17-18 years old. You can't compare Australia and SM-liga. In here even 15 year old players play in top level with former NHL players. And Finnish league is one of the best in entire world. Actually Finland is 2nd in World ranking while USA only 7th
Arrgh even tho I knew it was coming, it still hurt to see Lari getting beaten up. I must say at my kid's school, they don't act like that to gays ;( I felt sorry for Elias,too. He's still gone on Lari. Hope this will bring them together.
I read the spoilers so I knew it was coming. There is a line between bullying and assault. I was disappointed in how they played it. Hockey is a very physical sport & fighting is part of the curricula. Not a chance in Hades he would stand there & get punched or go down easily. 3:1 he might ultimately lose, but they would be bloodied doing it.
Now, Lari became a martyr of hocky's brutality. Watching a Finnish game HIFK - Jokerit on Feb 23, you hear a vocal violence out there, as if it's the trailer of this ephisode!
Janne's just a little hero isn't he? Shame more people aren't like him. It isn't like he's super enlightened or anything, he just doesn't give a flying fuck who his friends are sleeping with and realises that their sexuality doesn't change them as people.
I don't read Lari's situation as a lack of respect! He barely accepted himself being gay, Elias was adding to that comfort zone. Unfortunately he now perceives him as the source of all his problems because of peoples reactions and the photo incident. He's hurt, he cares, but has not yet reached a place where he's reconciled his acceptance of his emotions or the complications in his life because people are hurting him because his relationship with Elias.His journey will take time, be patient.
I know he is in love, but Elias' obsession for Lari is starting to annoy me. He needs a life, his own goals, even in love is not good that your life and goals revolve in just one person.
Yeah,True janne & Elias are so right for each other,Pity Janne is Str8,Can't win them all ! Lari is getting a taste of his own medicine, So Sad Violence is NOT the answer....
It's just as bad there as it is anywhere. People cant stand others who are different from them so instead of having to deal with it they would rather eradicate the source of the problem. That's why suicide numbers continue to rise.
I find since the news piece about the international viewers their time has gone up. 5 minutes is not bad at all not too sure if that is the show wanting to have more views or just the way they planned it(others stories getting done or what not).
You really had to have the last word, didn't you?. Thank you very much for letting us know the hockey age conditions in your country, and how good your young players are treated. OK? Gosh!.
Forgive my stupidity, just that story is about a man concocting a story about having a girlfriend and lying about it etc etc. Now it was a hoax, who knows, whatever! Manti claims he never lied (OK not sure what he would call it then?) Where does his life relate to Lari? Has there been suggestion that Manti is gay?
As a gay man pretending to be a homophobe, Lari was being hypocritical, but while he may have contributed to the homophobia of his team, he hardly created it or turned it into a mass mentality. It appears there may be only 3 serious homophobes on the team, while the rest are just taking the course of least resistance. Perhaps a few of them would speak against this stupidity, if Lari hadn't worked so hard to deceive them. If Lari played this right, he could get the 3 mosquitoes off the team.
I am loving Janne more and more these days. I want him! I would love to have him as a bff, my life would be so much easier if I had someone like him. Does anyone else have the feeling that Kimi might be gay?
Janne is the best friend in the world!!! Love him
I have to repeat myself once again, Janne is so good friend. I begin to like him more and more. :'3
Janne has gone from being kind of dumb and self-defeatingly self-absorbed to quite a bit smarter, a true friend, and now heroic. As Moldilocks said on a previous episode, "it's called growing up." True, but it doesn't always look this good. I'm impressed that the show and the actor have made this transformation convincing.
From America...thank you so much for doing this!!!!!!
Janne is a really good friend. I'm glad he stuck up for Lari. However, I must say the end is a bit unrealistic. Lari is a lot more muscled than all three of those bullies and even though it's 3 v. 1 there's no way Lari wouldn't have been able to extract himself from their grip. I hope he's not too badly hurt though and I am looking forward to the next part.
I know, right? You could practically feel all the intense force and hatred fused into one jaw-breaking punch! It doesn't get any better...
Yeah, that's why there was just summer in this story and now early fall. The seasons follow the filming schedule and not the actual seasons in Finland.
Related to this I heard from article that Ronny (Lari) and Ari-Matti (Lari's dad) are 100% sure still filming new episodes and Ronny's still has much contract left so Lari is not gonna disappear anywhere from the show in near future :) So Lari will be at least in the episodes shot now which will probably air at the start of next fall :)
Janne is an amazing friend to Elias and Lari he is so brave to stand up for them to the other boys. But Lari is in pain he clearly does not accept being gay of course he is going to push Elias away. Lari is going through so much confusion and pain he wants to be an NHL player and he feels that Elias being around him hurts his chances of reaching his goal.
Lari's naïveté at the end is really painful to watch. He really thought his friends were okay with everything just like that and then he's betrayed. :'(
Well this show has over 20 characters, not just Lari and Elias. Of course there's more show but it's about other characters and their stories too so 3-7 minutes is what we got every time...
Vau, 10 000 tilaajaa jo! Onpas tästä tarinasta tullu suosittu. : D
I don't know how many times I have watched episodes of this series but this one, only once.
I think it's cos Ronny (Lari) was promoted as a main character when before he was only a minor character :) Anyway these episodes have already been shot in last September so it was before they knew about the international success, so it can't have affected the fact that their air time is bit longer.
Didn't think so but it would have made sense to me.
Thanks for the upload as always, as I don't always mention it... and Thanks for the answers that your provide to all of us :]
I love Janne!!!
He's a teenaged hockey player, not a professional wrestler. In real life, when one person is set upon by 5, they can't just bust out the magic moves as the gang comes at them conveniently one at a time.
this reminded me of Deniz and Roman...
Yeah it was similar, Deniz played ice hockey, everyone knew Roman was gay... ect. it used to be on UA-cam but i think it got deleted. If you find it, its worth a watch
Yes, I have watched it and it's very good story line. One of my favourites.
I think your right, but Kimi's interest in Lari's sexuality is beyond normal. He is definitely more interested in Lari's sexuality then the rest of the hockey team. Lari wasn't even this interested in Elias at first. Kimi's got some kinda motives.
Thanks Miss!! :) Can't wait!
Wow, last September! And I thought the 1.5 month or so delay between filming and viewing for soaps here in the States was long! :P
Salatut Elämät, a Finnish soap and this story is an on going one so new parts appear here as they air from tv. First 34 parts are in the channel of Monpensiers88 and the rest here. Hopefully you enjoy the story :)
That is wonderful news Miss F thank you for letting us know. x Lee
You're so right about MissFin, she's a goddess of patience ! Maybe a future teacher repeating again and again ...
Welcome to your new addiction ;) We have fun here ;)
Yeah Lari is 16 year old boy who feels more than lost at the moment, he's not an adult who can handle the situation wisely. His behavior and feelings are not under his control and he's just mad at whole world and doesn't trust anybody or anything. And he was not just huffing to Elias but Janne as well...
I love Janne because he is so nice to Lari even he's gay... But that's not proplem :33 I just love how he tried to talk to those other jerks.. Janne is so good looking ♥
Thank you! Kiitos! :)
Ole hyvä your welcome
Phew! Somebody else thinks Lari was hit with gloves, not skates. It looked like skates, and I felt kinda sick...that would be savage. I see there's debate about Kimi, and that's good. The more people look at and analyze homophobia, the better.
Can't wait for the next one. You need to turn this into a dvd.
yay to Janne. My hero at the moment. I doubt Lari is gonna take this bullying lying down - even if it means he has to get up again first, if you see what I mean . . . . .
And that's why they play farm which isn't as physical as actual NHL cos they are not physically ready for that. Anyway currently for example Kasperi Kapanen 16 and Aleksandr Barkov Jr 17 have been shining in SM liga. Past years names like Mikael Granlund, Joel Armia and Joonas Donskoi were young stars.
She's dead, don't you remember? She died cos of cancer, Lari told about it to Ida when Ida's mom was dying...
It could also be that Kimi just wants to get rid of Lari to become the new captain/leader and that's why is trying to make everybody else hate Lari and scare the hell out of him so he would give up...
About Petteri (Elias) I don't know cos the article wasn't about him at all so it's not a surprise there was no info about Petteri...But I think he's shooting too :)
My poor Lari. Hope Elias will come along and give him a BIG hug!!! If not I will, so cute so so hot xx
I do not relate to the story but feel bad for the people having a hard time coming out.
Everybody that experienced violence and so on... But I would also like to express how many people, including myself do not have a problem being who they are. I am happy to live in a tolerant society, and never experienced violence because my sexuality, never have been in a fight before !. So for that reason I think it is important to point out that there is more positivity than negativity :-)
thanks for posting :)
Just saw this as a recommendation on my home page on youtube. What soap is this from?
Deniz and Roman pretty much don't exist on You tube any longer. After the end of their story the girls who uploaded didn't continue Deniz story. The network which allowed them to post had an assurance that when the storyline finished all uploads would be removed. You can find the odd short video here and there of compilations etc but of little storyline content.
So the "Kimi is closeted gay" theory seems to become popular :D So the Finnish girls who already thought last week the same might have been the first to notice this thing if it turns out to be true...
OK it would be labouring a point to keep going. I thank god that our young players are treated with such respect for the long term when you consider so many recently retired players are showing signs of severe head injuries...
That's always what we find out later. Lari is the perfect example!
If Lari got in he wouldn't still play NHL for years but would go to farm team as he said himself. That's how it happens. Once you succeed in farm and are 18 or 18+ you might be promoted to actual team...
It boils down to the idea that Elias will come to rescue Larry; but, lets expect that Lari will just turned Elia's down, again and again.
One positive is Janne's acting has gone through the roof.
He hasn't transformed. He's out numbered. Period. End of. Gay or straight, your average teenager is not going to be able to go all Chuck Norris when he is outnumbered 6 to 1 with two people holding him back. He knew the beating was coming so he took it. That has nothing to do with being gay/straight. He just wanted to get it over with and hope for the best. He's not some comic book super hero with magic powers and super strength. You can't compare him bullying 1 person (elias or tale) to this.
Redonner le couple qui forme avec Elias pour tué cette homophobie dans me sport et donne plus d importance ouvré les porte de l'amour le plus lontemp dans cette série que l'homophobie ne soie pas la victoire de le haine de l'homme vive Elias pour son combat de l'amour
Sorry to hear that!!! but we need to be stronger !! they need to know that we are normal in our own way!!!
The writers switch my affection from Lari+Elias to Janne O.o
He's one goooooooood friend that everyone wants to have!
Hi everybody, next part will be up today, but I'm not home yet and won't be in about an hour so I'll only start subbing then. Which unfortunately means late upload, sorry.
Elias is the best boyfriend who Elias could have had ever
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Yeah that's the other theory like I already wrote last week ;) But hoping he's not...
If there was only one or two of them maybe. When's the last time you tried to fight 6 hockey players at once?
that was such a convincing punch..............
Lari knows he can lead in some areas. After all, he was respected as the captain of the team. But fear of his dad and Lari's own internalized homophobia led him to bully Elias and talk trash. As far as we know, his awful dad still doesn't know. From what we saw today, he showed up for practice, but he has yet to take the bull by the horns. He can't just let Janne be his spokesperson.
Is that similar gay storyline to this? I'd like to see it. Will I find it here on UA-cam or somewhere else? :)
Hahahhah repesin tolle lopulle
Thanks, i always like reading your comments. Cheers.
But that's how it goes here, it isn't uncommon at all that the most talented ones get to camps, etc. in USA and Canada or even play in smaller teams already in about the age of 16. And then the NHL teams reserve the players in Drafts when they are 17-18 years old.
You can't compare Australia and SM-liga. In here even 15 year old players play in top level with former NHL players. And Finnish league is one of the best in entire world. Actually Finland is 2nd in World ranking while USA only 7th
Arrgh even tho I knew it was coming, it still hurt to see Lari getting beaten up. I must say at my kid's school, they don't act like that to gays ;( I felt sorry for Elias,too. He's still gone on Lari. Hope this will bring them together.
I read the spoilers so I knew it was coming. There is a line between bullying and assault. I was disappointed in how they played it. Hockey is a very physical sport & fighting is part of the curricula. Not a chance in Hades he would stand there & get punched or go down easily. 3:1 he might ultimately lose, but they would be bloodied doing it.
Now, Lari became a martyr of hocky's brutality. Watching a Finnish game HIFK - Jokerit on Feb 23, you hear a vocal violence out there, as if it's the trailer of this ephisode!
I love Janne so much.
Lari on niin ilkee
Alina Gunnarsen miten niin
Nuuska Muikku se kokoajan kiusaa ja pilkkaa Eliasta. Eikä myöskään kunnioita sitä.
Alina Gunnarsen niin mutta Kimi on ilkeempi kun se hakkaa laria
Alina Gunnarsen niin on😔😵
Ei ole. Lari välittää Eliaksesta ihan vitusti.
Poor Elias..how does this guy suffers !!!
Janne's just a little hero isn't he? Shame more people aren't like him. It isn't like he's super enlightened or anything, he just doesn't give a flying fuck who his friends are sleeping with and realises that their sexuality doesn't change them as people.
No they were not blades but hockey gloves
I don't read Lari's situation as a lack of respect! He barely accepted himself being gay, Elias was adding to that comfort zone. Unfortunately he now perceives him as the source of all his problems because of peoples reactions and the photo incident. He's hurt, he cares, but has not yet reached a place where he's reconciled his acceptance of his emotions or the complications in his life because people are hurting him because his relationship with Elias.His journey will take time, be patient.
The last part looked funny it did not even seem like anything dramatic lol More like a comedy or bad acting from the extras
Thats ok thanks mate ...I had a Spanish Grandmother so I think I know where your coming from....
monelta se uus sit tulee?
Lari's dad seemed really pushy and their relationship cold and tense.
Vittuako pelaa pitas :D ny jokruihi tai ifk
I know he is in love, but Elias' obsession for Lari is starting to annoy me. He needs a life, his own goals, even in love is not good that your life and goals revolve in just one person.
and suddenly Janne is the only straight guy on the team
Oh, so shame if it's not here anymore. =(
Yeah,True janne & Elias are so right for each other,Pity Janne is Str8,Can't win them all ! Lari is getting a taste of his own medicine, So Sad Violence is NOT the answer....
Where is lari's mother ? she'll understand lari's situation :(
Janne, you are such a good friend, love you lol
It's just as bad there as it is anywhere. People cant stand others who are different from them so instead of having to deal with it they would rather eradicate the source of the problem. That's why suicide numbers continue to rise.
I find since the news piece about the international viewers their time has gone up. 5 minutes is not bad at all
not too sure if that is the show wanting to have more views or just the way they planned it(others stories getting done or what not).
You really had to have the last word, didn't you?. Thank you very much for letting us know the hockey age conditions in your country, and how good your young players are treated. OK? Gosh!.
Forgive my stupidity, just that story is about a man concocting a story about having a girlfriend and lying about it etc etc. Now it was a hoax, who knows, whatever! Manti claims he never lied (OK not sure what he would call it then?)
Where does his life relate to Lari? Has there been suggestion that Manti is gay?
Deniz and Roman's story is all on Daily Motion!
Do they find out it was Iida that spread the pictures?
i think so.... it defo needed subtitles haha
jesus christ. the bully is getting bullied. the earth is round, people. lol
Логики нет никакой. За что они решили его побить? There isn't any logik. Why they decided to beat him?
Did he hit him with an ice skate?!
Can you check please Miss F88 it would be good to know that Elias is not going to be shoved aside...It is a soap after all.
They are so mean but now Lari is getting a taste of his own medicine and him and Elias need to make up because they obviously still are in love.
Lari's complete lack of respect for Elias is not a good look. The writers are just following other storylines now after starting so well.
As a gay man pretending to be a homophobe, Lari was being hypocritical, but while he may have contributed to the homophobia of his team, he hardly created it or turned it into a mass mentality. It appears there may be only 3 serious homophobes on the team, while the rest are just taking the course of least resistance. Perhaps a few of them would speak against this stupidity, if Lari hadn't worked so hard to deceive them.
If Lari played this right, he could get the 3 mosquitoes off the team.
I am loving Janne more and more these days. I want him! I would love to have him as a bff, my life would be so much easier if I had someone like him. Does anyone else have the feeling that Kimi might be gay?
That's probably more of what it is...Kimi wants to be the leader. I doubt he is gay.
What's so retarded is that the actor playing Lari is quite strong and he probably could have easily defended himself against those 3 wimpy guys;;;;
You are right not all homophobes are closeted, but most homophobes on tv are lol, just saying. I dont really want him turn out to be gay either.