Why Do All Malls Look the Same?

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  • Опубліковано 16 лип 2018
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    Why do all strip malls look the same, even across different states? And what do zoning laws, tax breaks, and a guy from Vienna have to do with it?
    Written and Hosted By: Danielle Bainbridge
    Graphics By: Noelle Smith
    Edited By: Mike Petrow
    Fact Check: Sarah Edwards
    Produced By: Kornhaber Brown (www.kornhaberbrown.com)
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 420

  • @horseenthusiast1250
    @horseenthusiast1250 5 років тому +345

    Hey, can we start buying dead malls and turning them into apartments or homeless shelters or communal housing or college housing? I think that’d be better than letting them sit empty or get demolished, renovate the hell out of them and start getting people’s rent money or something

    • @ah5721
      @ah5721 5 років тому +7

      Agree !

    • @martinemaggi8507
      @martinemaggi8507 5 років тому +22

      Hi! So two months late but I found some really cool stuff with regards to this. Initially, I was prepared to debunk this concept as being monetarily improbable but this was easily usurped by my findings. Actually, renovations of large mall-ish spaces have generated booming success! Any other argument I had would have related to the hassle of its renovations, usurped by the general hassles of construction regulation and further usurped by the very real and very successful existence of malls renovated into living space. For your, or really anyone's interest, check out this article by Business Insider on renovated malls: www.businessinsider.com/dead-shopping-malls-transformations-2017-3#the-westminster-arcade-in-providence-rhode-island-americas-oldest-shopping-mall-opened-in-1828-over-time-the-building-fell-into-disrepair-and-closed-in-2008-for-a-10-million-renovation-5
      This pointed me towards, the Westminster Arcade in Providence, Rhode Island which became a dead mall that was then renovated into micro-lofts! Most of the lofts are just the basic things for living and contain a bedroom, bathroom, kitchenette, and living space although some are more spacious or handicap accessible. The first floor is retail and there free bike parking and ramps, and there's basement storage....yeah these are really cool. I encourage you to check them out. Also, there's no vacancy. First tenants moved in December of 2013.
      Other than living quarters, other dead malls have been renovated to become campuses, office space, living centers, medical centers, and churches.

    • @cagedtigersteve
      @cagedtigersteve 5 років тому +3

      Many of them are turned into homeless shelters.

    • @jrperez1592
      @jrperez1592 5 років тому +6

      @@cagedtigersteve #1 reason they don't turn them into homeless shelter is money. Homeless don't pay rent. And the homeless will bring their drugs, alcohol, prostitution and other crimes to the area. It brings the area around the shelter down in value. It hurts other local businesses by having homeless loiter in the area. If my local mall turned into a shelter I would stay far away from the area. You know you would too.

    • @anyamckee1738
      @anyamckee1738 5 років тому +22

      JR Perez an abandoned mall near me actually became a homeless shelter and local businesses seem to be doing just fine... no prostitution or junkies seem to be wreaking havoc on the area just cuz homeless people are given a place to live there lol

  • @ARTiculations
    @ARTiculations 6 років тому +300

    Great video! Victor Gruen actually originally envisioned the mall to be more mixed use - including amenities like offices, childcare centers, doctor's clinics and libraries. He wanted the mall to be more of a community hub that is pedestrian friendly with greenery and public art. Gruen eventually came to despise how poorly his vision was implemented by developers and actually became one of the biggest critics of the American shopping mall. Interestingly - in the last couple of decades a new type of mall has emerged. They're called "Lifestyle Centers" - which is essentially the realization of Gruen's dream - mixed use shopping centers hosting amenities beyond retail - making them more like community centers. I worked as a retail store designer for six years and have definitely seen some very successful implementations of these lifestyle centers. The spread of them have also helped to reinvigorate the retail industry as a whole.

    • @renatanovato9460
      @renatanovato9460 6 років тому +9

      ARTiculations , in Sydney, Australia, there are some little malls that seem much of a community center. In one of them, there's even a branch of the local library. Besides other services like doctors, dentists, tailors, dry cleaning, etc.

    • @allanrichardson1468
      @allanrichardson1468 6 років тому +5

      As far back as the 1960s and 1970s, some medical and dental offices were located inside malls; in some cases inside the big "anchor" department stores inside malls. I remember a chain of dental offices located inside Sears stores in the mall. Also tax preparation services had their seasonal offices inside department stores.
      And apparently, the mall-notonous shopping center architecture is international; I've seen many TV and UA-cam videos that show the inside of shopping malls in many countries, and except for the languages of the signs, they all look familiar to me.

    • @NozomuYume
      @NozomuYume 5 років тому +12

      The big difference is the one thing that (most) malls lack -- *housing*. Gruen envisioned a community built into the shopping mall -- i.e. the shopping mall would essentially become an air conditioned village where people could live, work, and play. In fact, he envisioned that the mall would also include government offices, schools, social clubs, and parks. The general idea would be that the people who lived at the mall would never have to leave except possibly for work if they were employed at, say, a factory.
      Basically all his original idea involved was taking a traditional European village but make it climate controlled and modernized with multi-level construction that would allow it to be fully pedestrianized while motor vehicles would access it from the outside.

    • @theorangepersonman
      @theorangepersonman 5 років тому +3

      I actually live close to the first mall in Edina, Minnesota. I've noticed it slowly transform into more of a lifestyle center. They're putting in a huge lifetime fitness where sears used to be.

    • @Melissa0774
      @Melissa0774 5 років тому +4

      @@NozomuYume They actually have a place like that in Boston. The stores on the upper floor of the mall were never successful, so this developer guy bought it and turned those stores into tiny apartments. They still have stores on the lower level.

  • @crippletime
    @crippletime 6 років тому +154

    Do a video on the origin of the concept of cuss words. Like where the idea that some words are inappropriate to say in public or in polite company.

    • @kathryngeeslin9509
      @kathryngeeslin9509 6 років тому +6

      crippletime. Children and sign language using gorillas invent "bad words". I doubt cussing was more than a few minutes behind speaking.

    • @kindlin
      @kindlin 6 років тому +2

      Exactly, any person cultured enough to come up with language will also have an idea of things one shouldn't or can't do. The words describing these banned activities/objects will, themselves, take on some of the properties of what they're describing.

    • @TraderTravels
      @TraderTravels 5 років тому +4

      I think Vsauce covered this

    • @kindlin
      @kindlin 5 років тому +1

      I'm pretty sure that's where I got that from, but I don't remember it well enough to lay blame regarding my bad memory on Michael's lap.

    • @CadgerChristmasLightShow
      @CadgerChristmasLightShow 5 років тому +1

      Vsauce, Michael here. Yeah vsauce 1 did a video exactly about what you described. It's a pretty good video, like most vsauce videos.

  • @FlyToTheRain
    @FlyToTheRain 6 років тому +68

    "Unlike strip malls, I've never been one to disappoint" omg who wrote that lmao

  • @everwondered6158
    @everwondered6158 6 років тому +29

    I just wanted to mention that from what I have seen in Mexico, Panama, Spain, France, and Chile most malls look kind of the same

  • @laxisusous
    @laxisusous 6 років тому +42

    Most videos talking about the history of malls fail to mention that Southdale Center in Edina Minnesota is still a flourishing mall, despite being only 6 miles away from The Mall of America (the largest mall in the US).

  • @twiggyjali
    @twiggyjali 5 років тому +22

    Dan Bell & Retail Archaeology are the greatest archivists of dying and dead malls. Go visit them!

  • @Cae_the_Kitsune
    @Cae_the_Kitsune 6 років тому +75

    Kind of a footnote, but Brigham Young was not the founder of Mormonism. That would be Joseph Smith, who was then succeeded by Brigham Young, although there was a bit of a schism, so Brigham Young could be said to have founded the particular branch of Mormonism that most people are referring to when they talk about the Mormon Church.

    • @allanrichardson1468
      @allanrichardson1468 6 років тому +8

      A secularized Mormon friend of mine once told me the students at BYU call him "Bring'em Young and bring'em often."

    • @emilyburns878
      @emilyburns878 5 років тому +3

      I was about to say that too

    • @ah5721
      @ah5721 5 років тому +6

      The schism you are referring to concerns the Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints and the Reorganized Latter Day Saints (rlds) Church which was changed to the Community of Christ around 2008-ish . The RLDS now Community of Christ broke off from The Church or Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints(aka Mormons) was due to the thought that church leadership should be patriarchal backed by the decedents of Joseph Smith and the the faction that followed them.The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints does not claim the Community of Christ leadership or any of its members as being in full fellowship or standing nor any of their doctrinal teachings.

    • @happyfacefries
      @happyfacefries 5 років тому +5

      I disagree as Joseph Smith established and practiced first the things Mormons do today. However, also, ZCMI wasn't focused on clothes when it opened. It was more like a ginormous mercantile.

    • @ashm2338
      @ashm2338 5 років тому +10

      Ahem *cult* founder. He likes em young. 14 was the youngest he was "sealed" to. Sorry, exmormon here. Gotta mention jo Smith's dirty laundry whenever I can.

  • @andyiswonderful
    @andyiswonderful 5 років тому +74

    I'm amazed at this lady's gift of articulation. I have watched several of her youtube videos. She is incredible! Watch her eyes. She is not reading her lines from a cue card. She really ought to be on TV. Like on "The View".

    • @alejandromolinac
      @alejandromolinac 5 років тому +10

      Nowadays you get more exposure on UA-cam.... The View? Sigh....

    • @brycelandon6387
      @brycelandon6387 5 років тому +11

      Why waste her talents on The View?

    • @Parisroam
      @Parisroam 5 років тому

      @@brycelandon6387 😂💀💀

    • @michaelbosner2220
      @michaelbosner2220 5 років тому +4

      You understand that UA-camrs use telepromters right? This was probably written by more than 2 writers/researchers with degrees.

    • @siukong
      @siukong 5 років тому +1

      Apparently a competent but unremarkable 9 minute presentation (over half of which we don't even see the speaker at all) now counts as incredible. Hmmm.

  • @ryansmith5971
    @ryansmith5971 6 років тому +34

    You have a good speaking voice. It's very refreshing see history videos with someone that has a lively voice instead of the dry eye for Clear Eye Guy

  • @AngelOfMusic20
    @AngelOfMusic20 5 років тому +1

    Omg your radio star joke at the beginning killed me! 😂😂😂😂

  • @GrantValdes
    @GrantValdes 5 років тому +6

    I have a Masters in Urban Planning so I take strip-mallification for granted as a central issue, but it’s great to see the topic getting broader coverage. If the next generation is literate in urban planning issues and its basic history, the sky’s the limit. We can remake these lousy areas.

  • @nlpnt
    @nlpnt 5 років тому +1

    You don't see strip malls on tree-lined residential streets because of zoning, but it's common to turn off a heavily strip-malled main drag onto a side street that quickly becomes residential. Frequently there'll be a "NO TRUCKS" sign just beyond the strip mall's loading docks, sometimes level with its' property line fence. And of course the strip mall's back is resolutely turned on "its' neigborhood". Seen it everywhere from Vermont to Vegas.

  • @metime00
    @metime00 6 років тому +7

    Wow I just checked the credits and you wrote AND hosted this and I checked a couple others and you wrote and hosted those too so I can only assume it's all of them. That's so impressive to do both!!!

  • @actualitychicken4738
    @actualitychicken4738 5 років тому +35

    Slow down and BREATHE!

    • @prissylily25
      @prissylily25 5 років тому

      Actuality Chicken 🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @yurriaanvanduyn
      @yurriaanvanduyn 4 роки тому +1

      She needs to stop yelling as well,

  • @IvarsBezdechi
    @IvarsBezdechi 5 років тому +1

    You never bring up the fact that the owners of the large malls are charging INCREDIBLY astronomical rents. It comes down to when expenses exceed profits and finally the stores can't handle the monthly rent. I know of someone who had a mall food court restaurant who ended up with a $25,000 a month rent. You have to sell and awful lots of gyros and souvlaki on top of food expense, electricity, water, and wages.

  • @soussannaschvarnzman9653
    @soussannaschvarnzman9653 5 років тому +1

    in Canada we have a lot of indoor/outdoor malls.. their are shops inside but they're are also doors that you can access from outside

  • @jennifergeorgia5445
    @jennifergeorgia5445 3 роки тому +1

    Fascinating, thanks. By the way, I like the way you cite your references so easily and naturally.

  • @cat_106
    @cat_106 6 років тому +4

    Great content. i can't get enough of these educational videos. Your presentation, voice and the content are awesome. More of the same.

  • @IdahoTricia
    @IdahoTricia 6 років тому +1

    Mall Rats one of my favorite movies! Is the cookie stand part of the food court? Want a chocolate covered pretzel? What...like the back of a Volkswagen? 😂

  • @rodneyt3396
    @rodneyt3396 5 років тому +3

    5:40 - The ASHphalt?

  • @jst7714
    @jst7714 5 років тому

    An important point was missed, elaborating on the importance of the department store "anchor". Malls were generally built around at least two anchors- typically Sears, Roebuck & Co, and JCPenney. Sears in particular founded and owned a mall development company. Sears at it's hight 3500 stores, in malls all developed by the same company. That's a lot of standardization

  • @LambentLark
    @LambentLark 5 років тому

    Hey Daniel, I'd rather hang out with you than at the mall. I think it's your smile. Its a good one. First round of hard cider is on me!

  • @elkiness
    @elkiness 5 років тому

    Hi! Just discovered these videos. Great. Love the way you talk and present these.
    I grew up in the States-- in the 50's and 60's and well remember the first mall in the area --first an almost mall, then covered with a roof for all, then another story added (Wheaton, MD).
    Now I live in Israel--and guess what? It's full--overfull--with malls, looking much like in the US. When one was built in our little city I was furious, but love it...lots of coffee places and several nice restaurants, lots of activities (free) for children--learning about animals brought in, plays, and also sessions for new mothers with babies. Also daytime high level lectures-- mostly attended by older adults. And a movie theater with 5 small theaters. Once a week a special very low price for seniors. I seldom go there without seeing neighbors and former students.
    Our summer is long and hot, and the winter often rainy and chilly, so it's a great place to get to cool off or be with people. Many malls here have health clubs.
    About 1/2 of the space is in a connected building with health services (we have a system much like that envisioned by Senator Sanders), so to see a doctor or get an x-ray is an easy walk away. Many other offices and services there, too.
    Just read the comment below--so I see some of our malls (like mine) are more what Victor Gruen intended.
    I've traveled to many countries in Europe--and there are similar malls there, too! Often with a great many of the same stores; you can hardly know which country you're in.

  • @1973Washu
    @1973Washu 5 років тому

    the downside of everything moving online is that if someone ends up in a situation where they can not access the net then they are ruined. And this is far easier than you might think. Court orders can restrict or prohibit net access, and poverty can mean that a person will be unable to afford a device that can access the net.

  • @DiamondTurtle
    @DiamondTurtle 5 років тому +2

    I miss indoor shopping malls. We only have an outdoor mall where I live and I hate going there in the rain.

  • @BeeKool__113
    @BeeKool__113 5 років тому +1

    Wow!! Truly fascinating!! I never knew this but often wondered about it.

  • @sophroniel
    @sophroniel 5 років тому +8

    Brigham young didn't "found mormonism" . He was an early LDS prophet, but the first one in the 1800's was Joseph Smith

    • @jerknorris2483
      @jerknorris2483 5 років тому

      Mormenism hehe more men he hehe bunghole

  • @timothymclean
    @timothymclean 6 років тому +51

    I didn't hang out with friends at the mall, and was born late enough to miss the rhinestone fad. So, no photos. I do have thoughts on how malls could survive, though!
    Whenever two types of goods or services compete, each will need to find a niche or disappear. When horse-drawn carriages no longer had economic advantages over cars, they needed to find a new niche, capitalizing on things horses can do that cars can't. Malls need to do the same. They need to find something they do better than Amazon, something you can't get online, and focus on that. I'd suggest focusing on "the experience". Shopping at a mall with friends will never be as convenient a way to buy stuff as going to Amazon, but it can be a better social experience.

    • @gangifreek17
      @gangifreek17 5 років тому +7

      I’d say the advantage of malls vs Amazon is when I buy something at a mall I have it now not in a few days

    • @LucasFernandez-fk8se
      @LucasFernandez-fk8se 5 років тому +3

      Timothy McLean when were you born? I was born in the early 2000s and I still occasionally go to the mall with friends

    • @timothymclean
      @timothymclean 5 років тому

      Mid-90's, and it probably had more to do with the social circles I was in than anything else.

    • @miisti2839
      @miisti2839 5 років тому +8

      Tee main advantage malls have over online stores like amazon is that you can try on the clothes as well as see the details of it where as online you only have a picture and a description that sometimes isn't helpful.

    • @juliamelone8109
      @juliamelone8109 5 років тому +9

      The biggest draw of physical stores for me is the ability to try on clothes because everybody knows women's clothing sizes are almost never consistent.

  • @antoniotottojr
    @antoniotottojr 4 роки тому

    in my country.. malls are our park... since its hot in here and malls have AC.
    malls here are bigger and grand and most of them have everything.. supermarket, department store, spa, cinema, food court, school supplies store, playground, arcade and more! some even have a church, bowling alley and ice skating rink.

  • @hedgehog3180
    @hedgehog3180 4 роки тому

    It's funny because where I live malls basically don't exist at all, there are shopping centers but they're way denser and don't have nearly as much parking. Hearing about them is always weird.

  • @thezeddhotel
    @thezeddhotel 5 років тому +3

    Can we just talk about how fabulous the video host is 😎😎😎

  • @baassik8419
    @baassik8419 4 роки тому +1

    I LOVE your presentation!!!

  • @dietradeebrereton6154
    @dietradeebrereton6154 5 років тому +1

    I love your voice, you make these videos even better

  • @learntocrochet1
    @learntocrochet1 5 років тому

    This is a great piece! I'd love to see a part two, in which you could go on to discuss the new multi-use malls (as ARTiculations describes) as well as new zoning that encourages multi-use walkable neighborhoods. Some of these neighborhoods are turning back the clock to a time where folks lived over shops. Having grown up watching suburbs and strip malls created, I fled as soon as I could to smaller towns where they do not exist. Now, with the worlds exploding population, we must rethink density living.

  • @gagebice9028
    @gagebice9028 6 років тому +8

    What does English sound like to non English speakers

  • @masonkuta
    @masonkuta 5 років тому

    Houston throws shopping centers anywhere😂 We have like no zoning laws here. You'll be on a main road with tons of shops and then make a right and boom a bunch of houses

  • @sheleavitt06
    @sheleavitt06 5 років тому +3

    Brigham Young didn’t found Mormonism, that was Joseph Smith. Young was the 2nd president of the church after Smith was killed by a mob. And by the way Zion in this case is pronounced ZI.in not ZI.on.

    • @margaritam.9118
      @margaritam.9118 5 років тому

      sheleavitt06 wuuuut But in the gospel song “Ship of Zion” it’s pronounced zi.on. :0

  • @nickc3657
    @nickc3657 6 років тому +1

    9:28 I GOT BUSY AND MISSED THIS VIDEO UNTIL NOW OMG

  • @SheevPalpatine66420
    @SheevPalpatine66420 6 років тому +43

    I have a suggestion for a video. I'm an atheist and I keep hearing the bible has only recently started being taken literally and fundamentalism is relatively new yet the Dark Ages is nothing but biblical literalism. So when did biblical literalism hit mainstream America? I dont want to start controversy Iam justba seventeen year ild witha love for history. PLEASE HELP!!! Love you hun

    • @ahmedessa1364
      @ahmedessa1364 6 років тому +6

      Zachary Prosser Religions are dying because people are realising it's a scam

    • @davidshi451
      @davidshi451 6 років тому +10

      Oh, I have the perfect book suggestion! "The Rise and Fall of the Bible: The Unexpected History of an Accidental Book" by Timothy Beal (I actually attended a lecture he gave). Biblical literalism as we know it today first popped up in America in the 19th century, partly as a backlash against historical scholars, and partly because of religious revivals. It's also important to remember that there never was such a thing as the "original" Bible; the further back in time you go, the more versions you find. Here's an excerpt: www.timothybeal.com/#/thebibleisdead/

    • @krist-yonnarain7786
      @krist-yonnarain7786 6 років тому +5

      The whole history of the Bible and it’s interpretation is pretty complicated but essentially the word bible comes the Latin bilia sacra or sacred book. Despite this name the Bible isn’t actually a book in the traditional sense but a canon; a collection of various accounts and sacred (from Judaism) texts. The priesthood (catholic and orthodox) as well as highly educated people have always been aware of this history and so these branches of Christianity have always respected the Bible but never really saw it as the ultimate authority of Christianity. When Martin Luther came he proclaimed that the Bible was the literal work of god and so it should interpreted literally as such. The Protestant churches that came after would stick to this doctrine

    • @Arts4Change
      @Arts4Change 6 років тому +2

      Zachary Prosser I’m one of the few Christians you will ever meet that doesn’t believe in a literal interpretation of the Bible and am more interested in the “literal interpretation” of a grand unified field theory between quantum and classical physics than waiting on Jesus to ride in on a literal cloud. Anyone with common sense knows the Bible is a book of allegory. But since most Christians would consider that blasphemy, I guess u could say I’m more of a Coptic/Gnostic Christian who is really more of a Hermeticist than anything.

    • @andrewkornhaber
      @andrewkornhaber 6 років тому +1

      Hi Zachary. You've hit on a great point. Another book suggestion for you is "The Battle for God" by karen armstrong. It deals directly with religious literalism across Christianity, Judaism, & Islam and how it was in many ways a reaction to the scientific revolution of the 1800's. It's not going to be the easiest book to read at 17, but it's brilliant and worth the effort. Also it manages to address the issue without disparaging the value of religion itself.

  • @AidanCaDrago
    @AidanCaDrago 5 років тому +1

    I have been to 3 malls and they look nothing the same inside but know i think about it the outside usually looks the same on most of them in my area.

  • @muiscnight
    @muiscnight 2 роки тому

    In the 60s-80s each mall had a unique theme and look

  • @Liz-pc3dc
    @Liz-pc3dc 5 років тому

    I'm watching this from France and, guess what, the idea crossed the ocean! We have the same here too 😂

  • @cynzix
    @cynzix 5 років тому

    I love Buenos Aires malls because most of them are located in the middle of the city, integrated to it instead of standing out. That brings diversity to the architecture, since the majority of them are recicled old buildings that were revamped but kept the vibe.

  • @MsFitz134
    @MsFitz134 5 років тому +8

    Brigham Young is not known as the founder of Mormonism because that was Joseph Smith. Although he isn't known for his fashion sense he did try his hand at being a fashion designer. Google "Deseret Costume" to see his design. (That's Deseret, not Dessert or Desert) Brigham suggested that women should wear a more practical ensamble of trousers under a shorter skirt and waistcoat, and even gave sermons on how he hated seeing women's long skirts drag along the floor. The women, however, were more loyal to Victorian fashion than to their religious leader and most rejected his clothing suggestions saying it was too masculine.

  • @ajnelson30
    @ajnelson30 3 роки тому

    I used to work in the southdale mall in Edina MN and I had no idea it was the first mall, that’s kinda cool!

  • @robinchesterfield42
    @robinchesterfield42 6 років тому +29

    Anybody else hear the line "Did the internet kill the shopping mall store?" to the tone of "Video Killed the Radio Star"? (Was that intentional? It totally scans!) No? Just me? Okay I'll go nerd off to the corner then. :P
    Edit: As a Utahn, I feel really surprised that I hadn't heard about Brigham Young starting one of the earliest department stores, before. Huh.

    • @reshefbrokporat2946
      @reshefbrokporat2946 6 років тому +4

      Robin Chesterfield seems intentional to me

    • @ah5721
      @ah5721 5 років тому +1

      Brigham Young encouraged all to be industrious and actually had women grow silk worms on mulberry plants so to reduce the cost of silk. .. I remember growing up in Utah learning about this .. I'm surprised you didn't ..

    • @ah5721
      @ah5721 5 років тому

      Maya Brok Porat its easier to be self sufficient than to have to pay postage for things back in the day and I imagine when you have a large family like he did of course its easier for his wives (who probably liked shopping ) to do the shopping all in one place

    • @larryjohnny
      @larryjohnny 5 років тому

      Yes, totally heard it but thought it was a it cliche.. Perhaps a little bit witty but overall too predictable of a setup..

  • @valenciacarlin2357
    @valenciacarlin2357 5 років тому

    growing up I wasn't allowed to go to the mall. my parents often pointed out to me the mall cost too much money and they would not waste their time and gas money driving me there either . Now that I'm an adult I still cannot afford anything sold at the mall not even a pretzel.

  • @Nobody-s824
    @Nobody-s824 5 років тому +1

    I think “arcades” or “galleries” are the early malls. And I put quotations because I’m not referring to modern common usage of these words.

  • @Waitwhat469
    @Waitwhat469 5 років тому +1

    Its odd to me "Strip-malls" always just looked like towns during the wild west. I always figured it was just a call to that time, or maybe they just had similar pressures (housing being farther away for some reason (zoning laws, farms, and location of work)).

  • @deboralee1623
    @deboralee1623 3 роки тому

    response to something said around 8:04, "...Now if they would only spring up like _houses_."
    -- from a "George of the Jungle" episode

  • @jonathanfisher5943
    @jonathanfisher5943 6 років тому

    Thanks for the focus on this topic. It dovetails surprisingly well with two aspects of my life: Retail Architecture and New Urbanism. (If you haven't done a video on New Urbanism yet, maybe worth a deeper look?) Commercial land developers are working hard to work on these retail developments and adding residential, schools, offices, etc. Retail was just the first thing to get hooked on the malls. Strips can be more complicated as they also deal with smaller properties and city dynamics. Similarities in looks in malls also relate more to fashion and that there are only so many designers that developers (and their banks) deemed qualified, and cut and paste building instructions are a lot easier to execute. Retailers want their brand identity too. So, lots of reasons that take a lecture more than a 5-minute UA-cam. Drop me a message if your team is interested in some top sources on Urban Design and more on this retail planning topic. You've identified one question, and we have many more.

  • @darc1290
    @darc1290 5 років тому

    I never understood why people prefer to shop online. I like shopping in person. It’s fun and it takes up time when there’s nothing else to do.

  • @PoseidonXIII
    @PoseidonXIII 5 років тому

    I have a zombie mall by me. It is mostly dead with most stores closed and the place being fairly dark. But a handful of stores are still open and fully operational, eeking it out in the corpse of this mall. I mainly only go because it has this cool arcade.

  • @jeremiahyonemura
    @jeremiahyonemura 5 років тому

    My nearby mall doesn't have a fountain anymore. After a plane crashed into it, the fountain was taken out - all before I was born.

  • @Jade-pd3wm
    @Jade-pd3wm 5 років тому +1

    Perhaps they can convert old malls into residential villages with some shops and other facilities. In the UK it is now common to have old office blocks converted into flats. They are literally everywhere where i live.

    • @Kaede-Sasaki
      @Kaede-Sasaki 7 днів тому +1

      I rather like the idea of mixing in apartments/townhomes (mallhomes?) So people can shop and work where they live.

    • @Kaede-Sasaki
      @Kaede-Sasaki 7 днів тому

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    • @Kaede-Sasaki
      @Kaede-Sasaki 7 днів тому

      Error 606

    • @Kaede-Sasaki
      @Kaede-Sasaki 7 днів тому

      T Ed

  • @crotchwolf1929
    @crotchwolf1929 3 роки тому

    I find it funny how shopping malls are dying off while old downtown shopping districts are going through a revival.

  • @thesmith2920
    @thesmith2920 3 роки тому

    I think those mall experiences are a global shared memory lol

  • @tehferg2150
    @tehferg2150 5 років тому

    Young didn't found the Latter Day Saints, Joseph Smith did, Young was the second leader and one of the most influential.

  • @LucyLynette
    @LucyLynette 3 роки тому

    I spent the whole video waiting to find out why malls look mostly the same, assuming the title referred to the common design and decor choices. The closest you got was describing the basic definition of an indoor mall.

  • @SmithMrCorona
    @SmithMrCorona 5 років тому

    I tried watching this, but I fell into a trance. Those arms were waving so much, I was hypnotized. I thought I was a suburban teen until someone snapped their fingers.

  • @user-sd5vh1mx5x
    @user-sd5vh1mx5x 5 років тому

    I just love the Netherlands! it's like an upgraded version of what the US could kinda look and be like, they too have their share of homely/unalluring office parks and shopping centers but they're few and far between and never really feel overwhelming, and the hallmarks of the Dutch country side (e.g. windmills, trees, polders, canals, bike paths) are close giving them a little quaint touch.
    On the other hand! Strip malls seem to be EVERYWHERE! Every time I go out to run errands I feel as if someone just dumped itching powder on my nerves! 🥵😬☹️

  • @milatonersgaard6728
    @milatonersgaard6728 5 років тому +1

    Scandinavian malls are actually super intimidating compared to American malls, we have no 'square'/'courtyard' and everyone moves in a single file line and walks on the right, like in traffic. Also, strip malls don't exist and most of our best malls are in the middle of our city centres with underground parking. Just found it a bit funny. Also, people can and will scream at you if you are too slow of a walker. SINGLE FILE LINE.

  • @andreasamardzija1496
    @andreasamardzija1496 2 роки тому

    I don't know how it's doing now but Chicagoland had a strip mall mall, like indoor mall stores outside with parking lots. Actually now that I think about it those are popping up more but like with tree lined walking areas.

  • @RialVestro
    @RialVestro 5 років тому

    Malls don't all look the same. I've only been to three different malls but one of them does actually look completely different from the other two.
    Two do look very similar with just a single straight walk way connecting all the stores. However the third mall has a curved walk way connecting all the stores in a circle rather than a straight line.
    Even the similar ones aren't exactly the same because one is almost an entirely glass building while the other almost looks like a castle from the outside till you get inside and realize it's just a mall.
    Then there's the fact that they can have different stores and even stores that are in multiple malls can be in different locations within those malls. Even on entirely different floors. The Disney Store which seems to be in every mall I've been to is on the first or second floor either directly across above, or below build a bear depending on which mall you're in.

  • @c.powell8472
    @c.powell8472 5 років тому

    AWWWWW, I THOUGHT IT SAID 'WHY DO ALL MALES LOOK THE SAME? " i laughed so hard and clicked, but I miss read malls D:
    Oh well, I love your work. Youre always fun to watch !

  • @justaboringvegetarian449
    @justaboringvegetarian449 3 роки тому +1

    What's the origin of the blue and purple design on old disposable cups? It seems like it's everywhere.

    • @Kaede-Sasaki
      @Kaede-Sasaki 7 днів тому +1

      I like that design. It's nostalgic and still used at the same time

  • @lovisaricks9168
    @lovisaricks9168 5 років тому +7

    Just so you know, Brigham young wasn't the founder of Mormonisum. He was the second prophet of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day saints. Mormon can refer to off shoot groups that practice polygamy.

  • @pkunkbwok
    @pkunkbwok 5 років тому

    I thought we were going to talk about how Westfield owns a good chunk of the malls in the US. Or how a watered-down postmodernism has become the standard corporate architecture because of its inoffensive blandness and relatively low construction cost.

  • @tinkerbell1129mew
    @tinkerbell1129mew 5 років тому

    The mall in the town that I grew up in did not have a food court. There were many stores in it, one arcade but no food court. I didn't know that was thing until I moved to Nebraska in 2002. I had been to other malls while I was growing up that had food courts in them, but I thought that only big city malls had food courts.

  • @reythejediladyviajakku6078
    @reythejediladyviajakku6078 5 років тому

    Awesome video. I’d like to see one on the origin of the school system and when did the grades start getting separated into their own buildings and grades

  • @benjaminmerino1644
    @benjaminmerino1644 5 років тому

    Well... In my country, Chile, malls are built in near places inside the city, people don't use as lot cars, because of traffic and only 4 of every 10 people can afford a car, also most malls are near a subway station or has a shuttle bus route from the subway, also people don't want to wait one week on delivery while it's possible to go on the subway in 40 minutes, even less to a mall

  • @willamcars1
    @willamcars1 6 років тому +1

    Dont have matching malls in Canada. The 4 mall in Kelowna(2 interior, 2 strip) are all very different

  • @CityLifeinAmerica
    @CityLifeinAmerica 5 років тому

    I miss indoor malls. I still love going to Fashion Square and large malls like Mall of America. Even large malls in other countries like Australia’s Chadstone which...looks like America’s malls.

  • @johnmongver
    @johnmongver 4 роки тому

    If you miss this kind of malls, you can always go to the Philippines where mall culture is still alive

  • @onecoolnerd
    @onecoolnerd 5 років тому +1

    OH MY GOSH YOUR SHIRT IS SO CUTE

  • @romecottrell4558
    @romecottrell4558 2 роки тому

    Here in Omaha,Nebraska the Crossroads Mall has been demolished and what they plan on doing with the property. No one knows.

  • @deboralee1623
    @deboralee1623 3 роки тому

    "🎵...Internet killed the shopping-mall star...🎵"

  • @peterh9649
    @peterh9649 6 років тому

    This channel is great, can’t believe u don’t have more subs like u deserve

  • @charles0322mrsdani
    @charles0322mrsdani 5 років тому +1

    Totally off subject but that blouse is beautiful! It looks so good on you!

  • @purplefreak3
    @purplefreak3 5 років тому

    I grew up in the 90s and don't really remember hanging out at the mall all that much and when I did it was because it was a small town and there was nothing else to do.

  • @fluffylee41
    @fluffylee41 5 років тому

    The first indoor shopping mall was built in 1828 in Providence, RI. It's 3 stories high and has a skylit roof.

  • @drazzie22
    @drazzie22 5 років тому

    our local mall used to have a big fountain when i was a kid but its not there anymore :( idk why they got rid of it, they got rid if a lot of cool stuff and it does look more modern but i miss how it used to be

  • @gwgux
    @gwgux 5 років тому

    Wow, mind blown. I never really thought about why all malls are alike until now.

  • @megancollins2307
    @megancollins2307 5 років тому

    It's very much the same in and across Canada too!

  • @megmorgan21411
    @megmorgan21411 5 років тому

    I go to the mall just to keep the tradition alive. I’ve never actually went to the mall with friends though, only my parents, and I don’t have many found memories, but there are a select few I latch onto.

  • @queenlokilani
    @queenlokilani 5 років тому

    I'd rather be at the mall where I can feel the product and see if I like it or not, without having to mail it back.

  • @neanam
    @neanam 6 років тому +6

    Tallulah Louisiana had the first outdoor mall in the country...fun fact

    • @jesusmark3872
      @jesusmark3872 6 років тому

      Twistr You in Louisiana?lol

    • @neanam
      @neanam 6 років тому

      No im in brooklyn.....but I know ppl from there....whats so funny if I was in Louisana tho?

    • @jesusmark3872
      @jesusmark3872 6 років тому +1

      Twistr I'm there. Would have been entertaining to run into someone else on UA-cam comment board

    • @neanam
      @neanam 6 років тому +1

      oh cool.....you in tallulah?

    • @jesusmark3872
      @jesusmark3872 6 років тому +1

      Twistr nope. Thibodaux

  • @aking3624
    @aking3624 5 років тому

    Can you make a video on the auto-mat? I grew up going to Morrison's & Piccadilly's. Oh, and
    Woolworth lunchon counters...mmm fries!!!

  • @VishalVNavekar
    @VishalVNavekar 5 років тому

    But still didn't get to know why all indoor malls look same on outside and usually don't opt for much aesthetically pleasing designs.

  • @ryan24a73
    @ryan24a73 10 місяців тому

    50s and 90s malls had a better look than malls around the world nowadays

  • @jacklyn5695
    @jacklyn5695 5 років тому

    OMG. I’ve been to Southdale so many times and had no idea it was the first one.

  • @BeeWhistler
    @BeeWhistler 5 років тому

    Personally, I freaking hate indoor malls and they can't die soon enough. They were bad enough before but now they've put tvs into them and I just don't know how much more bourgeois they can get.

  • @paul5276
    @paul5276 6 років тому

    You should make a video on when humans started keeping animals [ dogs, cats] in the house, and treating them like there children.

  • @mcswabin207
    @mcswabin207 5 років тому

    Thanks for the info. My ears had a hard time keeping up with you.

  • @vladtepes481
    @vladtepes481 5 років тому

    The presentation is very interesting but some details seem to be incorrect. I recall the existence of malls in ancient Rome. More recent examples follow. GUM is a mall in Moscow that dates to the 19th century. The Northland mall in Detroit opened in 1954 earlier than Edina mall mentioned here. The David Whitney Building also in Detroit contains a small mall, The building was opened in1915.

  • @monicastephens3852
    @monicastephens3852 5 років тому

    Southdale Mall was my hang out as a teen. I grow up in Edina, Minnesota.

  • @DisplacedDetroitDiva
    @DisplacedDetroitDiva 6 років тому

    Sorry! Northland Mall in suburban Detroit opened in 1954! This is the mall of my youth and I specifically remembered the commemorative plaque which declared it the first indoor mall in the United States

  • @gars129
    @gars129 5 років тому

    Man, most malls are being remodeled with these same white tiles and overall white cream and grey colors. These look nice on a mall with good architecture, but a plain Jane mall looks worse. Even worse, big flagship malls also want this "modern look"..

  • @lorenandloisstevenson3858
    @lorenandloisstevenson3858 5 років тому

    The social aspect will keep teens hanging out, but there will be a time when we outgrow so to speak