@@JeepCherokeeful No one is perfect. He still calls all season tires radials, when all car tires have been radials for like 50 years. Why would you want a CD player? ALL optical discs have built in obsolescence and will eventually stop being readable. Copy them to digital and they last forever.
@@JeepCherokeeful oh I know, there are still people out there using cassette players, but that doesn't mean they should start putting them in cars again. The disc is no longer necessary. People can adapt to changes, or be left behind. I'm not hating on people either, there are lots of changes that I'm already refusing to adapt to and I'm not even 40 yet. It happens to nearly everyone. The difference is, I understand if I refuse to adapt, it's my responsibility to make changes that allow me to stay in the past on that particular issue.
agree, I got a 21 onlyx outback but it was for the engine. If the same engine were available in the forester would have gotten that (for the better driving position). Subie take notice! Also Levorg in the US please :)
Just picked up a Outback Onyx XT Wilderness, 9.5" of ground clearance, skid plates, upgraded suspension , X mode, and A/T tires. The CVT provides more clamping power for off road duty. These Outbacks are one of the best all around vehicles. Bring on the snow ! Really enjoy your reviews, keep up the excellent work. :-)
Ive used my 17 outback to tow a small boat to remote lakes accessible via seasonal and old logging roads in northern mi. It's been awesome for that. Sometimes the tree branches trigger a collision alert on the eye sight system! The roads are mostly rutted and sandy and there are no proper boat ramps but not had a problem . Replace the stock tires though. 45k miles no issues. I've also gone through ~10 inches of snow to get to the lakes with my ice fishing gear. I put Goodyear assurance weatherready tires on my outback. Also gone up some seasonal roads with hills to get to our favorite morrel mushroom locations, xmode worked well on the hills.
Same here man, TFL sucks when it comes to offroading it's like they are scared to go offroading in their cars...they sucked when it came to offroading with their 2018 outback and then claimed that it sucked in offroad situations yet this channel with the same 2018 outback was able to go offroading in many different situations and was amazed of how capable the outback was and indeed it is very capable....
TFL is really bad. Idk if they are clueless about x mode or what but they couldn't take their outback places I've taken mine. Also they had a problem with the CVT that could have been avoided if they didn't thrash the throttle when they get stuck and let the computer work it out instead.
I bought my wife a 19 Outback to commute to and from work. We too live in WA state and average 4-5 ft of snow. We would never take her Outback on trails that you take your Onyx but it’s good to know that we can if we wanted to. I love your videos on Subie’s. Please keep them coming
3 months after I bought a 2019 Subaru Outback Touring 3.5R blacked out, Subaru came out with a real blacked out Outback Onyx XT edition. I was mad as hell.
So your telling me the Subaru Outback is the best F-ing vehicle on the rode?! I totally agree! I'm now a new fan of the Outback and the rest of the Subaru lines. Your vlogs on Subarus changed my mind on them and i really want that Outback!
I have the Continental all-terrain tires on my outback. They are not as aggressive or knobby as some other tires, but for driving 99% of the time on paved roads they perform really well. Consumer Reports gave high test results for handling and quietness. These scored the best for the all terrain tires that will fit on the outback.
Hopefully Subaru fixed the engine problem from the Ascent. www.ascentforums.com/threads/new-ascent-unexpected-blue-smoke-from-exhaust-at-start-up-and-acceleration.8920/
I just paid off my 2013 Subaru Outback 2.5i, and I'm not in a hurry to go back into debt. However, your video shows me that the 2020 makes up for what the 2013 lacks in off-road chops, and tempts me heavily.
Given how the biggest concern by so many is the CVT overheating, I think it would be interesting to see a service road with an extended incline; not with the idea of breaking the car or pushing it past its limit, but more to see how capable it is (hopefully) and to quell some of the concerns. I do a lot of driving on service roads, so I really appreciate your channel that puts, “soft-roaders” against the kind of realistic service roads/backroads that many hikers/climbers/campers might see, vs unrealistic off-road trails that would typically only be run in a truck or Jeep. I found your V60 Cross Country video very informative and it makes me curious how other, “soft-road,” vehicles with off-road modes would do, such as the BMW X5 or VW Tiguan, or even just popular vehicles with AWD systems, like the Acura RDX. I realize I’m far from the typical car shopper, but many of my peers are in the same boat of trying to find realistic reviews of such vehicles, so please keep up the great content!
Very envious of this vehicle. I drive a 2006 Forester, back when the forester was a beefed up wagon rather than the SUV it is today. We will probably end up getting a gently-used lower-trim Outback in another couple years. But boy would we love an Onyx XT with all these upgrades. Can't justify the $$$$ though.
Thanks Ryan! You must have been happy -as- like a child. Your smile reveals it :) One request from me, please check if the Outback can conquer the cross cut climb where the Volvo V60CC failed. Thank you in advance for the upcoming series. It's definitely going to bring me a lot of joy in the time of pandemic.
We’re just waiting on the ice to thaw for that. It’s still covered by several feet of snow! And thanks, yes, I grew up on a small island. It was a ideal good childhood. 🥳
I have a Limited XT (with OEM skids, our Forester has Primitive skids) and the first thing I did was Falken Wilderness A/T Trail and great tire with more grip, looks and puncture resistance.
I have a 2020 Forester so different engine, CVT and gearing. But would love to see a pinch/tilt incline/decline test with the degrees to match. I have on stock tires at full air done 15-18 degrees with little drama. Everyone always talks about the need for a low range and locking dif . I’d love to see you test this things limits on inclines. And just for “fun” see if this can get close to the course Jeep uses for the Jeep Experience at the auto shows. We went one and it was fun, but their cost Mpg and practicality aren’t a good fit for our family right now. Anyways I’d love to see some “extreme” climbs with degrees. Keep up the good work, I hope you and your family are well!
I would really love to see you take this on the sand dunes in Cape Cod Massachusetts. I just took my 2016 outback 2.5i limited xdrive and upgraded toyo all terrain tires, and I got stuck several times. I ended up having to take my tires down to 4PSI and then pretty much had no problems. But I would be curious to see how this XT would do in deep sand.
Test drove one of these XT's and considering it as a family vehicle. Currently driving a '17 Impreza Sport, but the added room in the Outback, especially with those rear seats folded down, makes a lot more sense.
I went from a 2011 WRX hatch to the new XT and have loved every moment of it. It's not as fun to drive on curvy roads, but the ride is 100x smoother and it is such a better family vehicle.
One more thing. I downloaded an vibration app and a decibel app to compare the rides and the quietness of the Ascent. It was amazingly smooth as compared to previous Infinity FX45 and the Honda Truck. On the same road the FX45 tested at approx 5.1 vibration, the Honda was much better at approx 4.3 but the Ascent was amazing at a 3.0. The longer wheel base might make the Ascent a bit better than the Outback. I continue to be amazed at the ride of the Subaru, not something they talk much about.
Nice! I have a white Onyx XT...have already swapped the stock tires for Falken Wildpeak A/T Trail tires and they've done well on some of the Forest Service roads in the northern Georgia mountains. Will be interested to see what you pick and how well your selection works. Great video!
@@BlueRonsonol There is only 1/8" outside tire diameter measured at the tread (not wheel diameter) difference between the 17" and the 19". The stock 17" has more sidewall profile than the stock 19".
We have a ascent. I would have gotten a outback , but I didn’t have enough room for my left leg. If the dead pedal was a little smaller I would be driving a Outback.
The other problem is not these normal PNW trails you go on, it's the deeper washouts that stop non "offroad" vehicles like this. That is the REAL test. I could do this course in my 97 obw
I really enjoy watching your vids. Exciting to watch and great to see this awesome new Outback, I have a 2016 Limited with x-drive without the turbo. I don't think it was an option in 2016. Thanks for your vids. Please keep them coming.
Thanks for another great video! I have been undecided between the regular Outback 2.5L with the better gas mileage and the Outback Onyx 2.4L XT with higher HP & torque. I think you have convinced me to go with the XT for the power and the 2X Mode, in spite of losing 3 MPG in both city and hwy. (I do love the Touring leather though!) I'll let you know my final decision soon.
Great Job! You always come through!!! Id really like to see a video dedicated to X-Mode, detailing views from inside and out, so you can see and hear what the car is doing, especially while descending. Not enough good downhill xmode videos. Thank you for your great work.
I would like to hear your thoughts on the actual towing of a trailer such as a 2000 pound or so travel trailer, please. Towing capacity in documentation is usually different than actual experience and I would appreciate your perspective. Thanks for the great videos.
I have a 2019 Outback (obviously not the turbo) and it tows an approximately 2,000Lb boat just fine, and still gets 18-20mpg. Does work a bit in hills but not that much.
Enjoyed you having so much fun in it. Gorgeous country. I could dig same if there. Much flatter in Midwest, but snow country, so a Suubie is important tool. I think we shall upgrade our 15 Outback Lmtd, with another Lmtd. Save some coin for in town life, no turbo, no sunroof. Sure wish it could have heated steering wheel and turn off stop/start malarkey. Maybe the latter can be permanently shut off. Facial recognition, what you bet if in accident speed, braking, asleep or distracted is data stored and legally obtained for accident investigation as needed ???
Thanks for watching! I asked at the Outback launch and Subaru says data isn’t stored. It’s processed and discarded immediately to avoid any privacy issues.
Other things that make no sense? Tachometer dominates the driver's display even though its CVT only. No tactile buttons for most controls making the big display super distracting. Giant display can't go fullscreen in android auto. They put the intercooler at the top of the engine bay and heat rises, so you're basically cooking the intercooler whenever you're not in motion, ruining efficiency.
@@BoopSnoot The intercooler is there to allow you to drive through water up to the intake, which this vehicle can most certainly do with ease; I do think they should have added a hood scoop like the WRX, or old outback XTs though... I suppose it had something to do with the EPA ratings.
Ha!! I realize this is an old video - but I've been strongly considering trading both my Wrangler AND Golf Wagon for a single Outback or Forester. Right now I'm hung up on whether the Wilderness trim is necessary - we do a lot of highway miles and could use the extra efficiency, but regularly encounter rougher NF roads and deep snow. For weeks I've been thinking "I wish I could just find video of someone taking a standard Outback down NF-9021" since it's always been my benchmark trail for cars and motorcycles (I live one exit west)... and here you are doing exactly that! Really enjoy your channel, Ryan - one of the only people breaking past the reviewer cliche of "but no one will really take these off road" (while still avoiding the equally cliche'd hashtag-ridden overlanding tropes.)
If you had optioned an XT Touring, instead of the Onyx, you actually get a single disc CD player, which is oddly mounted in the center console. That's the one I purchased in February. I will say this however, it is very difficult to find many XT Touring Outbacks on dealer lots and there isn't much color choice if you can find one. I found a good one in Renton, and it is that "Magnetilite" (anthracite) color. The Onyx trim seems to have a larger variety of colors available on dealer lots. I like the blue color you have a lot.
I plan on visiting the PNW one day. Maybe I can join @DrivingSportsTV and do this trail. I suspect, if my many off-road adventures are any indication, that with my all terrains, the Ascent will easily breeze through it. I am very impressed with the FA24DIT/TR690 drive train that the Ascent and Outback XT share.
Please drive it down a steep hill and stop. Then back it up the hill 30 feet. At what angle will the CVT give up due to overheating? I was faced with this situation above Leadville Colo in our '05 OBXT when a rough but not "jeep trail" mine rock road turned into a large bolder path on what I would say was about a 30 percent grade. The 5EAT handled it fine once the torque converter locked up. I don't have the same faith in a CVT based on what I've seen with the computer cutting power.
They're not so bad. It's pretty much the future of cars, so you may as well get used to it. Besides, Subaru and Honda offer two of the best CVT's in the business.
I am looking to buy a new vehicle soon. The Subaru Ouback Onyx XT looks pretty good and receives in general good reviews. I have tried it and I was rather surprised by the level of comfort on the road. I do a lot of outdoor activities (skiing, camping, canoe-camping) and it would be appropriate for that. My only fear is the fact that I read quite often all kind of bad comments regarding the long term durability and reliability of Subaru’s engines. I am wondering if this is really true or rather exaggerated by some peoples. I am looking for feedback from Subaru owners.
Hi with your long term trial i want you to record CVT oil temp with outside specially in very hot day. I don't know if the big screen can access to this information, i hope subaru did it. If not you can have a OBDII bluetooth reader like blue driver or VEEPEAK with an apps to read this info live. I'm really impress by what i see in the part 3 of this series. This outback has an transmission oil cooler or not??? Near the end of your trial if you can find CVT oil life in % like after 10-15000mi with many offroad adventure with maybe few towing small trailler with 1800lbs to test the CVT toughnest... Thanks in advance for your info.
See what it would be like to sleep in the back of it. If it's long enough for you to lay down in that should give folks a pretty good ideal of whether or not they want to sleep in it when camping. Or how bad it would be if you got stuck overnight due to weather or someother issue. Also,measure from the floor to the roof. I doubt its tall enough for an electric wheelchair,but it would be nice to know. Test the cargo area in various way's.
Hello! First off, this is Awesome! I look forward to future videos in this series! I had a couple things with the Onyx I was curious about 1) can you see if it’s possible to fit 17” wheels on it when you change to AT tires? I’d like More sidewall! And 2) I’m curious to see how it ties with something like a 2-3000lbs travel trailer! Hope you are well, thank you for these videos!
I really like your adventures. The new a Subaru 2mode xdrive is intriguing. We have owned a Legacy for going on ten years and I have to say it handles snow unbelievably. We are looking to replace it this year and I have watched with great interest your reviews and test of the Rav versus the Forester sport. This outback has me intrigued. Our Subaru has been very reliable throughout and I would not hesitate to buy another. I like Toyota, and was looking at the RAV , but did care for the drive system on the entry to midline models.
Cool video. I have a 19 Ascent with most of the same features. I've towed a flat deck trailer but hope you give a try to say a 30' RV - I'm guessing you have the same 5,000 towing capability. The Ascent is a bit longer but I find with the 3rd row of seats always down I just have more storage. The Ascent has captain chairs in the back a very nice option. Do you have the cooled seating? I don't have the Premier edition but wish I had the rear mirror camera a very good option. The backup camera is great for a trailer - you should get it in the first try. Looking forward to the next video, a great location to put the Outback to a great test!
This man covers every single important detail for every single car he reviews. Top guy
But doesn’t know that a CD player is available
@@JeepCherokeeful No one is perfect. He still calls all season tires radials, when all car tires have been radials for like 50 years.
Why would you want a CD player?
ALL optical discs have built in obsolescence and will eventually stop being readable.
Copy them to digital and they last forever.
@@deejayimm gotcha, but people still use cds
@@JeepCherokeeful oh I know, there are still people out there using cassette players, but that doesn't mean they should start putting them in cars again.
The disc is no longer necessary.
People can adapt to changes, or be left behind.
I'm not hating on people either, there are lots of changes that I'm already refusing to adapt to and I'm not even 40 yet.
It happens to nearly everyone.
The difference is, I understand if I refuse to adapt, it's my responsibility to make changes that allow me to stay in the past on that particular issue.
Yes Ryan does an awesome job
Really hoping Subaru releases the Forester next year with this engine.
agree, I got a 21 onlyx outback but it was for the engine. If the same engine were available in the forester would have gotten that (for the better driving position). Subie take notice! Also Levorg in the US please :)
Thats my wet dream...
Forester Sport should have it with the Sport # mode
The Forester STi is coming...👍😅
@@xXCaHeTeLxX You pee in your dream 😂🤣
Just picked up a Outback Onyx XT Wilderness, 9.5" of ground clearance, skid plates, upgraded suspension , X mode, and A/T tires. The CVT provides more clamping power for off road duty. These Outbacks are one of the best all around vehicles. Bring on the snow ! Really enjoy your reviews, keep up the excellent work. :-)
Have you ran into a situation where it wouldn't give you enough power because it was trying to save the cvt?
Ive used my 17 outback to tow a small boat to remote lakes accessible via seasonal and old logging roads in northern mi. It's been awesome for that. Sometimes the tree branches trigger a collision alert on the eye sight system! The roads are mostly rutted and sandy and there are no proper boat ramps but not had a problem . Replace the stock tires though. 45k miles no issues. I've also gone through ~10 inches of snow to get to the lakes with my ice fishing gear. I put Goodyear assurance weatherready tires on my outback. Also gone up some seasonal roads with hills to get to our favorite morrel mushroom locations, xmode worked well on the hills.
Haha you really look happy! Congrats and welcome to get Outback! I have 19' one! Drive safe and thanks for reviewing.
Always liked the way you give meticulous details!!! Always appreciate DSTV and love Subaru!!
Used to watch TFL car for this type of thing. Then I found you. GAME CHANGER. you have the content I am LOOKING FOR!
Same here man, TFL sucks when it comes to offroading it's like they are scared to go offroading in their cars...they sucked when it came to offroading with their 2018 outback and then claimed that it sucked in offroad situations yet this channel with the same 2018 outback was able to go offroading in many different situations and was amazed of how capable the outback was and indeed it is very capable....
TFL is really bad. Idk if they are clueless about x mode or what but they couldn't take their outback places I've taken mine. Also they had a problem with the CVT that could have been avoided if they didn't thrash the throttle when they get stuck and let the computer work it out instead.
Great! I just ordered the same version and color! Looking forward for more videos.
I bought my wife a 19 Outback to commute to and from work. We too live in WA state and average 4-5 ft of snow. We would never take her Outback on trails that you take your Onyx but it’s good to know that we can if we wanted to.
I love your videos on Subie’s. Please keep them coming
3 months after I bought a 2019 Subaru Outback Touring 3.5R blacked out, Subaru came out with a real blacked out Outback Onyx XT edition. I was mad as hell.
Feelsbadman
I Love audible. Never thought I could replace physical books but audible changed my opinion completely.
So your telling me the Subaru Outback is the best F-ing vehicle on the rode?! I totally agree! I'm now a new fan of the Outback and the rest of the Subaru lines. Your vlogs on Subarus changed my mind on them and i really want that Outback!
Excepting the Sunroof and the Audio, this is my new Silver Onyx. Thanks for the video.
I have the Continental all-terrain tires on my outback. They are not as aggressive or knobby as some other tires, but for driving 99% of the time on paved roads they perform really well. Consumer Reports gave high test results for handling and quietness. These scored the best for the all terrain tires that will fit on the outback.
Great looking spec and looked like it handled that end piece easily. Look forward to the next video. Thanks for the content!
Hopefully Subaru fixed the engine problem from the Ascent.
www.ascentforums.com/threads/new-ascent-unexpected-blue-smoke-from-exhaust-at-start-up-and-acceleration.8920/
great to see Subaru making more rugged options!
Gorgeous woods, I kept waiting to see Bigfoot.
So freaking awesome.
Let's get some goodies on that thing:
- RalliTEK 2" Lift
- Prinsu Rack
- LP Aventure Rock Sliders
- LP Aventure Skid Plate
- LP Aventure Bumper Guard
- Wilco Tire Carrier
- MAYBE a Torq Locker
I just paid off my 2013 Subaru Outback 2.5i, and I'm not in a hurry to go back into debt. However, your video shows me that the 2020 makes up for what the 2013 lacks in off-road chops, and tempts me heavily.
Those final 10-15 seconds of the video are the best.
Given how the biggest concern by so many is the CVT overheating, I think it would be interesting to see a service road with an extended incline; not with the idea of breaking the car or pushing it past its limit, but more to see how capable it is (hopefully) and to quell some of the concerns.
I do a lot of driving on service roads, so I really appreciate your channel that puts, “soft-roaders” against the kind of realistic service roads/backroads that many hikers/climbers/campers might see, vs unrealistic off-road trails that would typically only be run in a truck or Jeep.
I found your V60 Cross Country video very informative and it makes me curious how other, “soft-road,” vehicles with off-road modes would do, such as the BMW X5 or VW Tiguan, or even just popular vehicles with AWD systems, like the Acura RDX.
I realize I’m far from the typical car shopper, but many of my peers are in the same boat of trying to find realistic reviews of such vehicles, so please keep up the great content!
Very envious of this vehicle. I drive a 2006 Forester, back when the forester was a beefed up wagon rather than the SUV it is today. We will probably end up getting a gently-used lower-trim Outback in another couple years. But boy would we love an Onyx XT with all these upgrades. Can't justify the $$$$ though.
I bought an '18 for that reason. Wonder if there are still any '19's lurking on dealer lots.
I'm surprised at how good the blue looks with all the black, I wouldn't have thought it looked that nice. cool.
If they offered a manual or even a reliable non-CVT automatic, I’d be all over that Outback XT!
Amen!
what's a CD player?
Thanks for the review. The outback is a capable station wagon.
Thanks Ryan! You must have been happy -as- like a child. Your smile reveals it :) One request from me, please check if the Outback can conquer the cross cut climb where the Volvo V60CC failed. Thank you in advance for the upcoming series. It's definitely going to bring me a lot of joy in the time of pandemic.
We’re just waiting on the ice to thaw for that. It’s still covered by several feet of snow! And thanks, yes, I grew up on a small island. It was a ideal good childhood. 🥳
@@drivingsports :D *like a child. But it's good to know :D Test it to its limit! Good luck!
Sweet, luv it!! I have a Pearl White one.. The ride is soo smooth.. Best car on the streets right now for the value, IMO.. Checks all the boxes..
It really amazed me how good the Subaru is on at least to me difficult terrain. Very well presented. You're the best.
10:26 what was pouring out? Seemed like a lot just for AC condensation...
I have a Limited XT (with OEM skids, our Forester has Primitive skids) and the first thing I did was Falken Wilderness A/T Trail and great tire with more grip, looks and puncture resistance.
The Outback will forever be a wagon to me not a crossover.
I have a 2020 Forester so different engine, CVT and gearing. But would love to see a pinch/tilt incline/decline test with the degrees to match. I have on stock tires at full air done 15-18 degrees with little drama. Everyone always talks about the need for a low range and locking dif . I’d love to see you test this things limits on inclines. And just for “fun” see if this can get close to the course Jeep uses for the Jeep Experience at the auto shows. We went one and it was fun, but their cost Mpg and practicality aren’t a good fit for our family right now. Anyways I’d love to see some “extreme” climbs with degrees. Keep up the good work, I hope you and your family are well!
Ready for more vids on your XT!
I’d love to see a lift kit on this xt model, I saw you up at exit 38 filming and am glad my car squeezing by wasn’t in any clips!
You guys are nuts! Some quality driving.
I would really love to see you take this on the sand dunes in Cape Cod Massachusetts. I just took my 2016 outback 2.5i limited xdrive and upgraded toyo all terrain tires, and I got stuck several times. I ended up having to take my tires down to 4PSI and then pretty much had no problems. But I would be curious to see how this XT would do in deep sand.
Second!
Test drove one of these XT's and considering it as a family vehicle. Currently driving a '17 Impreza Sport, but the added room in the Outback, especially with those rear seats folded down, makes a lot more sense.
I went from a 2011 WRX hatch to the new XT and have loved every moment of it. It's not as fun to drive on curvy roads, but the ride is 100x smoother and it is such a better family vehicle.
Thx man, I like your relaxed approach
Congrats brother!! Holy shit, fn excited your channel is growing!! Hell ya.
Im currently looking for ATs for my onyx xt. Looks like ill be waiting to see your video first!
Like ur vids. Like seeing everyday drivers being pushed .this way I know what my car will do if I go off road
One more thing. I downloaded an vibration app and a decibel app to compare the rides and the quietness of the Ascent. It was amazingly smooth as compared to previous Infinity FX45 and the Honda Truck. On the same road the FX45 tested at approx 5.1 vibration, the Honda was much better at approx 4.3 but the Ascent was amazing at a 3.0. The longer wheel base might make the Ascent a bit better than the Outback. I continue to be amazed at the ride of the Subaru, not something they talk much about.
There is an optional CD player. It goes in the caddy under your elbow. But it’s a steep $300.
That trail looks really nice to off road! Great review! I enjoy watching your vids
The blue color looks epic
Liked before even watching because I watched the spec video!!!
This wagon in STI with 6 speed is my dream
That’s the exact Outback I want!!!
This blue color is so beautiful!
Nice! I have a white Onyx XT...have already swapped the stock tires for Falken Wildpeak A/T Trail tires and they've done well on some of the Forest Service roads in the northern Georgia mountains. Will be interested to see what you pick and how well your selection works. Great video!
Did you go with a 17" or did you stick with stock? And if stock, what were the total sizes?
@curtgodwin @@BlueRonsonol I would like to know this as well! Can't wait to get some bigger tires with more grip on my Onyx
Chris Cortese i kept mine stock 225 wildpeak a/t, it was a long wait for bfg ko2’s
Hi, thinking to buy XT....do you have any problems with oil dilution ?
@@BlueRonsonol There is only 1/8" outside tire diameter measured at the tread (not wheel diameter) difference between the 17" and the 19". The stock 17" has more sidewall profile than the stock 19".
Great as always!
We have a ascent. I would have gotten a outback , but I didn’t have enough room for my left leg. If the dead pedal was a little smaller I would be driving a Outback.
Great job! You show you care, don't change my fellow American!
The other problem is not these normal PNW trails you go on, it's the deeper washouts that stop non "offroad" vehicles like this. That is the REAL test. I could do this course in my 97 obw
I really enjoy watching your vids. Exciting to watch and great to see this awesome new Outback, I have a 2016 Limited with x-drive without the turbo. I don't think it was an option in 2016. Thanks for your vids. Please keep them coming.
Thanks for another great video! I have been undecided between the regular Outback 2.5L with the better gas mileage and the Outback Onyx 2.4L XT with higher HP & torque. I think you have convinced me to go with the XT for the power and the 2X Mode, in spite of losing 3 MPG in both city and hwy. (I do love the Touring leather though!) I'll let you know my final decision soon.
Arne, get the XT!! I have had 3 Outbacks and the 2020 XT is the best one I have owned! Got the 2020 Oynx Edition 4 months ago. Great machine.
I want to see you try the hill/corner right after the water crossing 😁
Great Job! You always come through!!! Id really like to see a video dedicated to X-Mode, detailing views from inside and out, so you can see and hear what the car is doing, especially while descending. Not enough good downhill xmode videos. Thank you for your great work.
I would like to hear your thoughts on the actual towing of a trailer such as a 2000 pound or so travel trailer, please. Towing capacity in documentation is usually different than actual experience and I would appreciate your perspective. Thanks for the great videos.
I have a 2019 Outback (obviously not the turbo) and it tows an approximately 2,000Lb boat just fine, and still gets 18-20mpg. Does work a bit in hills but not that much.
Enjoyed you having so much fun in it. Gorgeous country. I could dig same if there. Much flatter in Midwest, but snow country, so a Suubie is important tool. I think we shall upgrade our 15 Outback Lmtd, with another Lmtd. Save some coin for in town life, no turbo, no sunroof. Sure wish it could have heated steering wheel and turn off stop/start malarkey. Maybe the latter can be permanently shut off. Facial recognition, what you bet if in accident speed, braking, asleep or distracted is data stored and legally obtained for accident investigation as needed ???
Thanks for watching! I asked at the Outback launch and Subaru says data isn’t stored. It’s processed and discarded immediately to avoid any privacy issues.
The really stupid thing is why a trim level called Onyx Edition come with chrome? It makes no sense as the rest is blacked out.
I know what you mean i wrapped mine in black right away when i got mine.
Other things that make no sense? Tachometer dominates the driver's display even though its CVT only. No tactile buttons for most controls making the big display super distracting. Giant display can't go fullscreen in android auto. They put the intercooler at the top of the engine bay and heat rises, so you're basically cooking the intercooler whenever you're not in motion, ruining efficiency.
Should've done a black chrome.
@@BoopSnoot The intercooler is there to allow you to drive through water up to the intake, which this vehicle can most certainly do with ease; I do think they should have added a hood scoop like the WRX, or old outback XTs though... I suppose it had something to do with the EPA ratings.
Alot less chrome then the limited and premium
Ha!! I realize this is an old video - but I've been strongly considering trading both my Wrangler AND Golf Wagon for a single Outback or Forester. Right now I'm hung up on whether the Wilderness trim is necessary - we do a lot of highway miles and could use the extra efficiency, but regularly encounter rougher NF roads and deep snow. For weeks I've been thinking "I wish I could just find video of someone taking a standard Outback down NF-9021" since it's always been my benchmark trail for cars and motorcycles (I live one exit west)... and here you are doing exactly that!
Really enjoy your channel, Ryan - one of the only people breaking past the reviewer cliche of "but no one will really take these off road" (while still avoiding the equally cliche'd hashtag-ridden overlanding tropes.)
Great vid,look forward to part 2
If you had optioned an XT Touring, instead of the Onyx, you actually get a single disc CD player, which is oddly mounted in the center console. That's the one I purchased in February. I will say this however, it is very difficult to find many XT Touring Outbacks on dealer lots and there isn't much color choice if you can find one. I found a good one in Renton, and it is that "Magnetilite" (anthracite) color. The Onyx trim seems to have a larger variety of colors available on dealer lots. I like the blue color you have a lot.
But then - no dual X Mode!
@@drivingsports I know, that's the downside. But, admittedly, I'm not traversing the Snoqualmie river in mine, like you are. :)
Heavy cargo!! Steep hills!!!!!!
Awesome! We have that car in silver and I'm wondering how it does towing it's max rating. Also would love more info on the high torque CVT
I'm sure it's junk like the rest of their CVTs have been. Only way to buy one is with the intent of selling before the warranty expires.
Amazing video, do this with the Ascent in this same road test please & thank you!👌🏼👍🏼👏🏼💯🦾
I plan on visiting the PNW one day. Maybe I can join @DrivingSportsTV and do this trail. I suspect, if my many off-road adventures are any indication, that with my all terrains, the Ascent will easily breeze through it. I am very impressed with the FA24DIT/TR690 drive train that the Ascent and Outback XT share.
Would like to see your thoughts on the infotainment after extended use.
My only complaint is the stock tires. Replacement sure, but know one will buy the orginal as they're not all seasons
the cd play is in the center console
This is such a good looking car. If Subaru offered a manual transmission with the turbo engine in this wagon I'd have one in my driveway.
Please drive it down a steep hill and stop. Then back it up the hill 30 feet. At what angle will the CVT give up due to overheating?
I was faced with this situation above Leadville Colo in our '05 OBXT when a rough but not "jeep trail" mine rock road turned into a large bolder path on what I would say was about a 30 percent grade. The 5EAT handled it fine once the torque converter locked up. I don't have the same faith in a CVT based on what I've seen with the computer cutting power.
How is the RF sounds system upgrade? None of the OBXTs at the dealer have this option to test and will need to order it from factory.
I love how this one looks! Is there a Onix XT version for the Crosstrek?
Closest is the new Crosstrek Sport.
You can option a cd player
"Only" $400!
Can you do a segment on Towing with the Outback? I am looking at getting the XT Onyx to tow my Bass Boat. Thanks
What size Bass Boat are you towing?
I wish they would add a hood scoop for all turbo Subaru models
cowl?
I don't think there is a better awd system on the market (not including low ratio etc)
This video is a few years old, but it’d be cool to see the new wilderness go up against the 2024 onxy xt
Be cool to see the visual differences
THE CVT TRANSMISION IS A DEAL BREAKER FOR ME. i HAVE AN OLD SUBARU THAT HAS A NORMAL TRANSMISION AND i LOVE IT.
kong adong agreed. What year do you have? I had an 05. One thing that bugs me is that the new outbacks are humongous now 🦛
They're not so bad. It's pretty much the future of cars, so you may as well get used to it. Besides, Subaru and Honda offer two of the best CVT's in the business.
I am looking to buy a new vehicle soon. The Subaru Ouback Onyx XT looks pretty good and receives in general good reviews. I have tried it and I was rather surprised by the level of comfort on the road. I do a lot of outdoor activities (skiing, camping, canoe-camping) and it would be appropriate for that.
My only fear is the fact that I read quite often all kind of bad comments regarding the long term durability and reliability of Subaru’s engines. I am wondering if this is really true or rather exaggerated by some peoples.
I am looking for feedback from Subaru owners.
I would like to see how it does in sand/ mud . Live in florida so beaches and back road marshes with thick mud.
Both are in the agenda.
@@drivingsports See how she does beach launching and recovering a small boat and trailer (1000 pounds). We know our Odyssey couldn't do it :)
Add a 2”-3” lift, all terrain tires and wheels.
Yeah, I might do that
3" lift on a Outback? I guess you enjoy replacing axles and cv joints/boots
Perhaps towing? I tow a 13ft Scamp with my 2010 outback. Could use more input on the topic.
Shawn-Paul Luchin up to 3500 lbs max capacity with the XT trim editions. Aka the turbo engines.
Hi with your long term trial i want you to record CVT oil temp with outside specially in very hot day. I don't know if the big screen can access to this information, i hope subaru did it. If not you can have a OBDII bluetooth reader like blue driver or VEEPEAK with an apps to read this info live. I'm really impress by what i see in the part 3 of this series. This outback has an transmission oil cooler or not??? Near the end of your trial if you can find CVT oil life in % like after 10-15000mi with many offroad adventure with maybe few towing small trailler with 1800lbs to test the CVT toughnest... Thanks in advance for your info.
Mine has a CD payer in the console. Did you check?
See what it would be like to sleep in the back of it. If it's long enough for you to lay down in that should give folks a pretty good ideal of whether or not they want to sleep in it when camping. Or how bad it would be if you got stuck overnight due to weather or someother issue. Also,measure from the floor to the roof. I doubt its tall enough for an electric wheelchair,but it would be nice to know. Test the cargo area in various way's.
Great video. I love the Outback! Subbed for updates
You should get the brake calipers painted neon green to finish off he Hawks colors 😎
I have a 6spd manual outback and would never get a cvt, although I would love the rest of the car.
When was the last year they offered a manual in the outback?
I love audible!
Hello! First off, this is Awesome! I look forward to future videos in this series! I had a couple things with the Onyx I was curious about 1) can you see if it’s possible to fit 17” wheels on it when you change to AT tires? I’d like More sidewall! And 2) I’m curious to see how it ties with something like a 2-3000lbs travel trailer! Hope you are well, thank you for these videos!
I really like your adventures. The new a Subaru 2mode xdrive is intriguing. We have owned a Legacy for going on ten years and I have to say it handles snow unbelievably. We are looking to replace it this year and I have watched with great interest your reviews and test of the Rav versus the Forester sport. This outback has me intrigued. Our Subaru has been very reliable throughout and I would not hesitate to buy another. I like Toyota, and was looking at the RAV , but did care for the drive system on the entry to midline models.
Cool video. I have a 19 Ascent with most of the same features. I've towed a flat deck trailer but hope you give a try to say a 30' RV - I'm guessing you have the same 5,000 towing capability. The Ascent is a bit longer but I find with the 3rd row of seats always down I just have more storage. The Ascent has captain chairs in the back a very nice option. Do you have the cooled seating? I don't have the Premier edition but wish I had the rear mirror camera a very good option. The backup camera is great for a trailer - you should get it in the first try. Looking forward to the next video, a great location to put the Outback to a great test!
Can’t wait to see the Wilderness when it comes out
Subaru is great. Waiting on new WRX and STI with hatch or wagon version. Maybe a dream 🙃
Great blue color!
I have a '22 XT Limited in the same color coming in at the end of July.... I hope....
I'm pretty sure there is a chance player in the center console
A rock chip already? Damn 2:45