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  • @shelleycottrell7596
    @shelleycottrell7596 Рік тому +1

    good word

  • @shawnmichaelmurphy5693
    @shawnmichaelmurphy5693 11 місяців тому +1

    Wow. I just came from a service with a well known minister and this happened.

  • @tertiasteynberg8494
    @tertiasteynberg8494 Рік тому +1

    Preach it!!

  • @Anahutch1
    @Anahutch1 2 роки тому +7

    My mother passed away some years ago. She was a devout Christian When a visiting minister or evangelist gave a sermon at the church, mom never gave anything in the offering that was taken up for the visiting minister. However, she would talk to them after the service and personally hand them a few hundred dollars. I guess mom knew what she was doing.

    • @MikeSheasheaDtree
      @MikeSheasheaDtree Рік тому

      Good word! My wife has me personally tip those waitresses at restaurants who do a good job so she or he actually get the tip, not just leave it on the table.

  • @marinabraeckman7331
    @marinabraeckman7331 Рік тому +1

    Thank You!!!! Watching from Argentina Patagonia!!!! So helpful message!!!

  • @tonyjones2796
    @tonyjones2796 2 роки тому +2

    This is Terry
    I’m glad you talked about this Mike…It’s terrible.. I literally walked out of a service because of this

  • @michaelabodunrin9343
    @michaelabodunrin9343 9 місяців тому

    Great thanks a billion for the balance and boldness also to point out Balaam.

  • @rosemarybishop6632
    @rosemarybishop6632 2 роки тому +8

    Very Anointed message TY I have waited all my life to hear someone speak TRUTH on this subject… I am 67 this September so 50 yrs. I pray Father Our Most High God give you health an Long Life an many opportunities to speak HIS TRUTH….

  • @barbaragreigceaser
    @barbaragreigceaser Рік тому +1

    Thank You very much!!!

  • @actionjackson4343
    @actionjackson4343 Рік тому +1

    Much appreciated. I've never been in the back rooms where the business of 'ministry' is conducted. Which of us hasn't been flogged by aggressive collections? Sadly, newer people are probably more susceptible than those who have been through it for a long time.

  • @gracekim8680
    @gracekim8680 2 роки тому +1

    Amen

  • @PastorDennisPhillips
    @PastorDennisPhillips 2 роки тому +10

    Thank you Pastor Michael for your integrity… I agree with you 100%.
    Blessings brother in the name of Jesus!!!

  • @unshackled4400
    @unshackled4400 2 роки тому +4

    We do deliverance ministry at least 2 times a week and never ask for or have a" hand out" for money! I decided not to be one of the modern day money changers in the temple lol. Bless you brother as the truth is not popular.

  • @claywade
    @claywade 2 роки тому +9

    You are the real deal brother. Keep it up.

  • @triciaamie7445
    @triciaamie7445 2 роки тому +1

    We need to hear this… thank you. Sad… and disappointing though. Just another avenue for people to be “church hurt” unnecessarily.. they will have to answer for it one day.

  • @elizabethcs5516
    @elizabethcs5516 2 роки тому +1

    That’s right thank you it’s so true.❤

  • @RawandRealMinistries
    @RawandRealMinistries 2 роки тому +14

    I couldn’t love this more!! I’ve had so many conversations with people about this!! They’ve been so wounded & abused by this. Thank you for sharing this truth!💥❤️

  • @barakamanu1514
    @barakamanu1514 2 роки тому +4

    a good rant😀 Thanks for addressing what makes some people to be disgruntled with the church.

  • @doseofdoug8871
    @doseofdoug8871 Рік тому +1

    Liked your stories.. thanks for sharing.. saw you at Sadhu’s teaching with Dr. Bruce..you speak truth.. this thing happens many times..God bless you sir..

  • @danielbortner9646
    @danielbortner9646 10 місяців тому +1

    Thank u brother I was caught up in that garbage for several years, give to get,prosperity, success, very little to do with the Lord! I appreciate u telling folks the truth. God bless

  • @Kevin_n_Roo
    @Kevin_n_Roo 2 роки тому +13

    Michael, I always look forward to your videos. You have a perspective that equips others to hear the Lord’s voice more clearly. Thank you!

  • @pirongia5168
    @pirongia5168 Рік тому

    Thank you brother Michael, for sharing the truth on the subject of money. I cannot understand how some preachers milk the people for money. The power of the Living God in NOT for sale.

  • @Shay0777
    @Shay0777 2 роки тому +3

    Brother Mike, you did not talk too much like you thought, so you didn’t need to edit anything out. We needed to hear this. This video helps opens up our eyes for those that give even when being deceived into giving. It should anger the body of Christ of the deception taking place regarding this topic. Many blessings to you and may the Lord continue to guide & bless you in all you do!

  • @brinamarie9525
    @brinamarie9525 2 роки тому +4

    “Let all that you do be done in love.” Yes I agree and have experienced churches practicing ‘competitive giving.’

  • @adrianford5262
    @adrianford5262 2 роки тому +3

    I really appreciate your honesty. It's a bummer to hear that so many Pastors could lie like that, but I always like to know the truth no matter what. Thanks for sharing.

    • @MichaelVanVlymen
      @MichaelVanVlymen  2 роки тому

      Yes I know... It isn't like they are trying to be ungodly, most truly believe it is the way things are done and its ok. Their eyes are blinded in that regard.

  • @tinathomas3288
    @tinathomas3288 2 роки тому +1

    Very good

  • @willag4675
    @willag4675 2 роки тому +3

    I also learn that you don't give out of compulsion and also Apostle Paul said in 2 Corinthians 9:7 that we give as we have planned in our heart.

  • @willag4675
    @willag4675 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for sharing God bless you.

  • @margaretford2071
    @margaretford2071 2 роки тому +3

    Well done Mike🙌🏼 God will turn the tables on those ministers🗡 Bless you for your honesty and for exposing the deception in His house. God will NOT be mocked. 🙏🏼

  • @robinsonstegard538
    @robinsonstegard538 6 місяців тому

    Wow. Thank you.

  • @RealEstateRadioTV-SA
    @RealEstateRadioTV-SA 2 роки тому +1

    now that i am maturing , i understand what you are saying

  • @esmeraldajohnson1403
    @esmeraldajohnson1403 2 роки тому +2

    Keep up the KINGDOM work we are not here to please people we must please GOD

  • @blujen1642
    @blujen1642 2 роки тому +8

    Money and Church Operation is always a tough subject, well done! I returned to the Lord late in life. I was so excited when I brought my very first Tithe ever to the Pastor. He tossed it aside as if it were nothing n proceeded to tell me how he was not swayed by money. I was devastated and felt no blessing or honour on my Offering or validation. I determined then that whatever I did I would do unto the Lord first n if the Pastor got onboard great. If not, it would be between the Lord n him. My focus was for the Lord. After that I enquired of the Lord or Holy Spirit on how much to give and to who. It really helped me to learn to hear. Everything is turned for good and His Glory.

    • @brinamarie9525
      @brinamarie9525 2 роки тому +2

      Thank you thank you so much for doing that. Thank you for your “yes” to Jesus. Thank you that you kept going despite the self-boasting obstacles you faced from those that should have been leading your heart in the way to go like Jesus. Your story might seem small, but it sounds like the story of a sister I will one day meet in Heaven because you didn’t give up and stay in the opposite direction. You came back.

  • @adamsmit1320
    @adamsmit1320 2 роки тому +2

    God bless you, Michael

  • @muhindamiriam7991
    @muhindamiriam7991 2 роки тому +1

    This thing needs to be addressed in Africa many preachers abuse God's people.so absurd.plz we need you to come over .

  • @wendyackroyd8382
    @wendyackroyd8382 2 роки тому +3

    Wow not what I was expecting to hear, thank you for speaking the truth. God bless

  • @marsharodney2966
    @marsharodney2966 2 роки тому +3

    Thanks for this truth Brother Michael

  • @enamoratedelespiritudsanto7638
    @enamoratedelespiritudsanto7638 2 роки тому +3

    Blessyou 🔥🔥🔥
    The church needs this teaching
    God blessyou Always

  • @benyanthony5513
    @benyanthony5513 2 роки тому +1

    i appreciate you sir, thank you.

  • @JesusIslord-y6e
    @JesusIslord-y6e 8 місяців тому

    Thank you

  • @willag4675
    @willag4675 2 роки тому +1

    It's not a rant Mike it's the truth. Thank you.

  • @mbiydzelehkilianchilla171
    @mbiydzelehkilianchilla171 2 роки тому +1

    What a message! God bless you so so much.
    "Serving " God and milking people dry for provision if proof you don't know the God you claim to serve.
    In the scriptures, God does not talk much on mammon but his influence is devastating.
    Thank you very much

  • @terryschmitt1441
    @terryschmitt1441 2 роки тому +2

    Excellent thank yoU

  • @jasminemarshall5521
    @jasminemarshall5521 2 роки тому +2

    Come on now, deception has no place in our work for the Gospel. Well said.

  • @jimhall3789
    @jimhall3789 2 роки тому +3

    Praise the Lord!

  • @pammoeller855
    @pammoeller855 Рік тому +1

    Wow..Great wisdom!!! Such an important topic & agree 100%!! Lol…absolutely adore your brutal honesty & transparency :):) EVERY TIME I listen to you I get tremendously blessed!! so thankful for your ministry‼️God bless you & your precious wife❣️ 🙏🔥🔥🔥🔥❤️

  • @chrisberry7546
    @chrisberry7546 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you!!!! This is soooo true! I have been preaching this to family and loved ones for years. Sow the seed of faith. Sow the word. Yes, sow money at times but not out of pressure or emotionalism. If any preacher says to sow a certain amount right now for your miracle, eliminates the poor. Jesus never eliminated the poor.

  • @shervonmelissa7591
    @shervonmelissa7591 2 роки тому +3

    🙏❤🙌 Thank you so very much for this video. This was such an anointed message and could not have come at a better time. Thank you Michael!! Bless you!

  • @beautifulmoon8896
    @beautifulmoon8896 2 роки тому +5

    Haha thank you for this msg. Very needed. Thanks for sharing those stories. We love you and thank you for blessing us with these videos.

  • @wingsofgloryhealingministr9687
    @wingsofgloryhealingministr9687 2 роки тому +1

    amen, truth and wisdom! Thank you for bold truth and showing the spirit of excellence that He's given you, its a great snapshot of an obedient God pleaser. ❤🦅💥

  • @kristinacrane6791
    @kristinacrane6791 2 роки тому +3

    Thank you for speaking on this, Blessings!

  • @chriskilmartin6079
    @chriskilmartin6079 2 роки тому +2

    They just need to remember Ananias and Saphira. If you take an offering for someone they should get the whole amount unless otherwise specified.

  • @nowandthennn
    @nowandthennn 2 роки тому +1

    You are a true man of God , that’s more about ministering to people than money , even though I know it takes money for needs & ministry.

  • @1Charging
    @1Charging 2 роки тому +2

    Watched from Nigeria! God bless you Sir.

  • @rebeccamubeezi5680
    @rebeccamubeezi5680 2 роки тому +1

    Pastor we need you in Africa your teachings are timely 🙏 for us

  • @kurtmanly7007
    @kurtmanly7007 2 роки тому +3

    Thank you for speaking Truth !
    It is sad to see that manipulation is so rampant in the Church...
    I appreciate your humility and have learned so much from your teachings !
    Thank you ! Blessings to you !

  • @romans8Disciple
    @romans8Disciple 2 роки тому +3

    Glory to God. So thankful for your speaking the truth in love.
    Blessings 🙏 and Love

  • @robertserrao4325
    @robertserrao4325 2 роки тому +2

    Pls pray for my total deliverance

  • @jasminemarshall5521
    @jasminemarshall5521 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for sharing. You are a blessing

  • @GERTY59
    @GERTY59 2 роки тому +2

    THIS IS THINGS WE NEED TO KNOW!! ~ MY GOODNESS I DID NOT KNOW HOW THE CHURCH IS DOING THE VISITING PASTOR'S! ~ I WOULD BE AFRAID OF WHAT GOD! WOULD DO TO THEM THAT ARE DOING THIS EVIL THING ~ THANK-YOU FOR OPENING UP OUR EYES TO THIS!! ♥

  • @FireIn8
    @FireIn8 2 роки тому +6

    Thank you Michael Van Vlymen and this is helpful and encouraging. I've seen some of what you've described before and it's not difficult for a hearer to succumb to an appeal for giving more -- especially if one's healing or situation is dire. Thank you for sober guidance, sir.

  • @susanv1125
    @susanv1125 2 роки тому +4

    Speak up pastor - it’s important to open eyes .. speak the truth .. thank you 🙏

  • @peggyeggy08
    @peggyeggy08 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you for sharing this. God bless.

  • @tespasconsacre3668
    @tespasconsacre3668 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for sharing.

  • @terigarrison
    @terigarrison 2 роки тому +3

    God bless you, Brother. John 4:24. Your act of courage in this teaching has brought healing to my heart and I know it will Minister to many.
    I just discovered your teachings today. This needs to be forwarded to all who have an ear to hear. So grateful to have found you work.

  • @magdelenerebeccakee4877
    @magdelenerebeccakee4877 Рік тому

    Love your passion and conviction on this matter that is happening a lot. Had an experience in a church where it was said the more you give the more you will be blessed. Spirit in me was not comfortable, grieved and i thought what if someone has no money to give, does that mean God is not going to bless them? One Sunday, after hearing this for several weeks, I heard an audible voice that said "do you think you can buy my gifts with money". Told this to the pastor and it stopped for 2 weeks but started again.!

  • @susanv1125
    @susanv1125 2 роки тому +2

    You are so right … I hate to say it but so many evangelists / maybe most are Finny this .. manipulating people to give money to be blessed. what I like about the Catholic Church is that they don’t ask but just pass a basket during mass which is semi covered. The priest might mention a parish need at the end of mass but it’s only a request with no mention of reciprocity. God bless you . Your message is pure 🙏✝️

  • @SylviaPorter-kt4nl
    @SylviaPorter-kt4nl Рік тому +1

    Thank you Brother. I like Sadhu Group all of you are in. I want to come to conferences. I have plenty of questions too. MISSIONATY David Hogan said he nearly starved to death till he started fasting now he says he receives unknown amounts regular. I remember hearing testimony of one of his missionary friends was fasting and sweeping leaves outside and sweep up $30000 for their building. I am learning in this area myself. Me and my husband praying for a church building so I'm looking for righteous prayer. Love your veil teaching. God bless. Your Sis. SYLVIA

  • @frankinspired6486
    @frankinspired6486 2 роки тому +2

    This is Truth spoken in truthfully!!
    Please enlighten us more on tithing, i heard a preacher say if you dont tithe you wont go to heaven, yet i never read anywhere jesus telling his desciples to take some time off to take their tithes to the temple..He only emphadized on helping the poor..

  • @heinfourie2409
    @heinfourie2409 2 роки тому +2

    Amen....

  • @michealcarver2474
    @michealcarver2474 2 роки тому +1

    Well I am glad you didn't edit that out :) thanks for sharing. I have learned to pay attention.
    Proverbs 22:16. What not to do.
    Now the opposite...what to do.
    Luke 6:34-35 :)

  • @zugastauferden8762
    @zugastauferden8762 2 роки тому +5

    Hi Michael. i like your messages very much. I'm from Germany and have a similar past as you. But with some key differences: I never got off nicotine and I suffered so much from my marriage that I went back to the old comforters and got divorced.... When I see you I get very angry with myself because I would like to be a man of God like you are...if you would pray for me for a minute I would be very grateful. Philip

  • @tx2ga
    @tx2ga 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you for speaking up! I honestly never knew this was the practice. When I have given in the past I naively assumed it would go to the guest minister. I guess from now on I will give it to them directly if possible. God bless you 🙏

  • @tomcrane2971
    @tomcrane2971 2 роки тому +2

    I love to hear your message! I have in the past been swindled by,” blessing sharks”. God bless and keep you ! I have bought several of your books. 👍👍 looking forward to more..

  • @gloryzone4
    @gloryzone4 Рік тому

    Thank you brother Mike. KK!!! She was ordained by an African warlock. So sad that people are duped, including three very prominent prophets. Discernment is needed in the body!!!

    • @anne-livgamlem7036
      @anne-livgamlem7036 Рік тому

      Are you sure he meant Kathryn Krick? I am just asking as I want to know for sure.

  • @susanv1125
    @susanv1125 2 роки тому +2

    Michael please post / speak more often. I / we are very blessed by you ! Praise the Lord . God keep blessing you

  • @matthews1338
    @matthews1338 2 роки тому +3

    This message was very encouraging! I'm happy you made a video on this. I fully agree that God doesn't force people to give. He wants us to be led by the Holy Spirit

    • @patriciacollins2336
      @patriciacollins2336 2 роки тому +1

      This is exactly what goes on in most churches. It's hard to wrap your mind around this kind of deception. This is only one of the reason I have found it very challenging to find a home church. I go to different house churches to gather, worship and praise! Thank you brother Michael for exposing the truth! I'm so thankful we can walk with TRUTH HIMSELF and not fall prey to these lies! Amen!

  • @MichaelVanVlymen
    @MichaelVanVlymen  2 роки тому +5

    Most people stop watching at about 4-5 minutes. You can see why. Its a hard subject and as I said most people don't want to hear about it.

  • @SuperRodcam
    @SuperRodcam 2 роки тому +1

    Yeah i felt the same thing with Kathryn kri___

  • @tjporter
    @tjporter 2 роки тому +2

    Good stuff!!

  • @feliciataylor7703
    @feliciataylor7703 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you:-) please tell we want to hear and learn. God bless you

  • @LauraZlovesJesus
    @LauraZlovesJesus Рік тому +1

    This subject has been a big irritation to me that we need to sow into the word to receive it. Only people who pay them can receive what they say. Blessings from God are free. Thank you Michael.

  • @gloryzone4
    @gloryzone4 2 роки тому +1

    Bake me a cake😂 Great teaching. So much abuse. I pray the church wakes up to this !!!

  • @suzannes4909
    @suzannes4909 Рік тому +1

    I would hate to be in the shoes of those who rob the visiting ministers of their rightful portion when they stand before the Lord. They may be told they are idolatrous.

  • @freeindeed5393
    @freeindeed5393 2 роки тому +1

    Wow! Hard truth! I sure have been getting blessed by your teachings! I first discovered you on “Eagles Eyes”. I would love to be a part of a school or seminars that you teach. I am ordering several of your books online. Thank you so much!

  • @anditeam7932
    @anditeam7932 2 роки тому +1

    ❤️ Welcome 🙌 Bless you from 🌍 Germany 🇩🇪 Frankfurt 😀 Andi.Team 🌞 💦 🌴

  • @Robin-sv7mr
    @Robin-sv7mr 2 роки тому +3

    Thank you Pastor Michael. I really, really needed to hear this tonight. I am being tormented by not having enough to give and told over & over to just give up. That God only helps people that can advance His Kingdom and I am just a poverty stricken loser. Again thank you for posting this video. God Bless you and your family

    • @brinamarie9525
      @brinamarie9525 2 роки тому +1

      Those are tough battles to fight. The enemy is playing off your vulnerabilities by shaming you for not having enough. Holy Spirt prompts you differently. His voice sounds more like a peaceful strength if He’s telling you to give. Or He sounds like a rumbling joy. He knows your finances. Some churches I’ve been to has you go to the front and place your offering up there so everyone knows who gave and who didn’t. I would tithe online at this one church I used to go to and the pastor would always make announcements to give special blessing and prayers over those who brought money to tithe. He didn’t pray for the online blessings. That made me feel like I was being shamed for not loving God. God knows our heart. There are people with lots of money who don’t consider sharing. You might be in training to receive finances for the Kingdom. You passion to help could be spilling over so strong that it’s gonna tip the bowl over in Heaven and God is gonna pour His finances thru your love. You’re being trained to be trusted like Joseph.

  • @phranchesskahr
    @phranchesskahr 2 роки тому +1

    Wow you have a lot of old books. halleluyah

  • @zealheals
    @zealheals 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for sharing that. We should know Jesus enough not to pay for miracles. We should also seek Him to learn the mysteries of The Kingdom- like tangible results and the importance of obedient *sacrifice* . Reminds me of our current celebration, Purim- King Saul taking a few of the Amalekites animals when he was told to kill everything, just because he was too cheap to pay for his own sacrifices😂 Whyyyy did he think God would not notice?!
    A healthy, righteous, rightly divided perspective is definitely needed in the Body.
    Listen out to hear if that minister you mentioned has any other in-depth teachings on the money subject; and if there are arrested demons in those deliverances agonizing over those teachings and over the people sowing.
    Somewhat telling. Shalom

  • @audreyfeng2194
    @audreyfeng2194 2 роки тому +1

    some not too many years ago, a ministet stood up during conference anf asked us all to give and said take ouy your $20.00 or hundred dollar bills to sow etc,. i wasnt offended but I really do.not like glazing words to fleece the flock to give so we will be blessed and there goes a lot of scriptures guilting people to give, but my heart felt iy removes people from hearing what God would have them give, everyone wave whatever amount of bill in theit hand before putting.in offering bucket. i really hate it, the whole meeting was hype up like that, it felt so much carnal then honoring God.

  • @Kinugo1
    @Kinugo1 Рік тому

    Its heart when you love the church and the teaching but when the money part comes its like an own preaching. You are hungry for God and you trust the leader that he has it from God. 😢 I always felt the manipulation. But when you are the only how have not the hand up with money and you dont receive the blessing prayer. Uhhhhhhhh.
    We grove in spiritual things. Today I am relaxed😊

  • @hazelmaylebrun6243
    @hazelmaylebrun6243 2 роки тому +5

    Thank you. Oh man... my wounded heart received healing from this. It makes devils mad when you talk like this because he likes messing with people. I've seen... literally.. people spend the last money they had to an offering, but had no money to buy much needed shoes. I'm sure that sometimes God can ask us to have faith and do that, but I'm sure you get what I'm getting at. The poor... they'll give the food money for their children. Where is the glory to the Lord in that? I'm not against sowing. Sowing is fabulous... when you're doing it cheerfully and as led by HOly Spirit. Wow... we need God to expose this stuff... for the purpose of correction and restoring right attitudes toward money. It's a good thing. Be blessed.

    • @brinamarie9525
      @brinamarie9525 2 роки тому +1

      Like the lady in the Bible that gave her 1 shekel and God honored her giving of the heart above everyone else who only gave out of their pocket to buy acceptance. Hey, maybe our last nickel and dollars that we’ve spared to share with God will be more remembered by God than we thought. Perhaps it paid for more material to build onto our Heavenly Mansion.

  • @jiroempag9187
    @jiroempag9187 2 роки тому +1

    Hi Prophet Michael, I just want to say that your voice is very soft 😊 I’m sorry to tell that. 🙏 can you make it loud? Because I want to listen some of your videos but I can’t hear properly. Thank you and Peace be with you.

  • @gracegiftandglory
    @gracegiftandglory 7 місяців тому

    If God called one ministry he will provide for it without coercing or guilt tripping.
    Fact tho, they ask for a baked cake first but then the miracle doesn’t happen…deceived and deceiving…🙏🏽

  • @mommaof6
    @mommaof6 Рік тому +1

    Manipulations is wrong!!! Charging for a miracle is witchcraft. However Paul says to be generous with those who teach the word of God. Jesus said the same too! Money is not ours we are stewards of it. God blessed us with jobs, business, health etc to make the money not to make our pockets fat but to bless ministries and those in need.
    I tithe and give out of my love for the Lord and thankfulness.
    These are verses that back up what Im saying...
    Galatians 6:6
    1 Cor 9:11
    1 Cor 9:14
    1 Tinothy 5:18
    Luke 10:7

  • @jl7294
    @jl7294 2 роки тому +4

    Sorry but I really like this video

  • @triciaamie7445
    @triciaamie7445 2 роки тому +1

    If it’s a certain woman… check out her “covering” he’s a warlock pretty much.

  • @LizelleGrobler
    @LizelleGrobler 2 роки тому +1

    ♥️🙏🇿🇦

  • @kayecurren3342
    @kayecurren3342 2 роки тому +2

    I'm waiting for the day ministers follow the life of Rees Howells and George Muller believing in God's supernatural provision and offer their lives to the people for free as the Gospel is free. Jesus's blood is free. I have had many revelations of the truth of this man's testimony. Please believe you are telling the truth. Advise: Let them eat cake!" or Let them be angry. God will cover you.

  • @lilstardust777
    @lilstardust777 2 роки тому +1

    I'm just curious if this person was Jennifer Leclaire?

    • @MichaelVanVlymen
      @MichaelVanVlymen  2 роки тому +1

      No it was not.

    • @Shay0777
      @Shay0777 2 роки тому

      Funny because I thought about her too. For some reason I had to stop listening to her. It might have been for this reason

    • @SuperRodcam
      @SuperRodcam 2 роки тому

      Katherine krik is sow big receive big miracles. But she might of changed since i stopped watching her.