Where I grew up there were nine acres of really old trees. They formed a triangle and on one side there was a road with a creek beside it. It was all hilly ground and the only flat area was down by the road and the creek. In that location there were very large sycamores. The SMALLEST was ten feet in circumference. The largest, which was long dead, was over sixteen feet. There were a couple of huge oaks but it was mainly sycamore. I wandered those woods nearly every day and spent many days playing in that creek. I called that area my valley of giants. Years later, I still visit my old friends when I go see my mom. Most of the woods are gone now, the landlord clear cut most of them but many of the giants in my valley survived the carnage. Those sights and sounds remind me of simpler days and times, when my escape from an alcoholic and violent father was found under the canopy of trees and messing around in that little creek that was just barely too wide to jump across. Tennessee tree lover. Not far from the Smokey's.
Thanks for sharing. Sycamores are one of my favorite trees. I have see some big ones, but nowhere near the size you describe. It would be incredible to see before we were clear cut. There are not many true old growth areas. I am lucky to have a few in WNY.
Loved your tour and I'd tutorial; thank you What I found so very interesting was how trees differ so very much between continents. Although I could identify the beech almost immediately, I would never have guessed the cherry you picked out as anything like those we have here in England. Loved the Shaggy barked Hickory.
Thank you! The shag bark hickory is one of my favorites. It is amazing how different some of the trees can be within my state, New York, and parts of the country. If you go a little bit south or a little bit west, the species change. There have been a few people commenting that my acronym MAD should really be MADBuck, because Buckeye trees have opposite twig patterns. We do not have those in New York, but Ohio, 3 hours to the west, is called the Buckeye state. Thanks for watching!
Beech is actually a very late successional tree. They're extremely shade tolerant and the pioneer species tend to be shade intolerant. Also the alternate/opposite configuration you're referring to has to do with the way that the leaves present themselves along the twig, not the way the twig diverges from the branch, so you would need to examine the position on the buds to determine if its configuration is alternate or opposite. As well, butternut trees also have an opposite configuration
Identifying trees can be a great way to enhance your hike. Using the bark to identify trees can be tricky, but there are some species that have very distinctive bark and can be easily ID'ed. Check out our More Winter Tree ID Video (Part 2): ua-cam.com/video/XeUZ4BU8wQk/v-deo.html
I live in the city but grew up in a rural area . I have been burning wood in a wood furnace since 1986 .I find wood on tree lawns and along the roadside and try to second guess what some of it is. I know oak, maple , sycamore, poplar , cherry, apple, and stay away from pine and willow . There have been some woods that have stumped me . Thanks for recommending the two books.
I have 1 or 2 pieces left of a large amount of wood I could never figure out . It was about 3ft diameter could not be split by hand . The log splitter I rented was big but struggled to split the logs . The inside was orangish in color and very fiberous . It wasn't pine but looked like a California pine in texture on the inside. The out side was kind of scaly. When you picked it up it felt extremely heavy for its size. When it burned it burned very hot and for a long time . Any idea what that might have been? I have one big log left of it, I could never split, still sitting in my back yard. lol
@@ellobo4542 Hard to say without seeing the leaves or bark. You say it was not pine, did you see leaves and they were not needle-like? What part of the country are you in?
Reinstein is a great place for old growth. Zoar is another old growth area in WNY. I would love to show you around Zoar. We should paddle the upper section at some point too.
Thanks for the nice comment, much appreciated. If you like the style and information in this video, check out my part 2 winter tree ID video: ua-cam.com/video/XeUZ4BU8wQk/v-deo.html
Thanks for watching, you notice a lot more on the trail when you zoom in on specific species. You also notice the anomalies more. I need to get better at shrubs and understory.
The wood was given to me by my Handyman friend . The customer did not know what it was and he had no clue , it was winter I did not see any leaves. It was located about 2o miles south of Cleveland Oh. off Lake Erie. It was out of an area where homes were built 80 years ago off a road 200ft back in a wooded area ..The bark was scaly orange brown ,when it split it tore apart like pine. The weight was like lead, very noticeable. I have handled a lot of wood since 1986 but nothing like this before or after. The heat off of it was great and burning time was extremely long . Thanks for the books to reference I will try to pick up on them asap.
Absolutely loved the channel man, I need help identifying something a very specific Alabama tree, but the problem is, We have a abnormal bunch naturally occurring sir here in northern Alabama where I'm at I'm trying to figure out these European trees we have England's & Germans Elm trees & England Oaks & England Pin trees & American Yellow orange cherry pin & dog wood tree to and European Hickory cherry & oaks that look identical to them by there barks and some kind of Hickory that looks like a white or red oak by it's bark that I need DESPERATE HELP please to identify! Like i said ABNORMAL natural growing & can't explain it ! Respectfully speaking Sir any chance I could even get a guide to know what I'm looking at to find a hickory tree by it's bark alone or wood without the bark alone Sir?
@@OutsideChronicles p.s it's night here so in the morning I'll email info soon as I get the camera to take pictures Sir. Respectfully thank you sincerely.
I wonder if you could sort these by which trees use more water or less water? Is there something like that somewhere here? It would help people who are in different areas figure out which kinds could live in their areas easier.
We only have shagbark in my area. I had to go look at the Sibley's guide to see other varieties, but it looks like I live too far north to have anything but shagbark and bitternut. I do not think I have ID'ed the later. I will have to be on the lookout.
You can pick the bark, it doesn't harm the tree. Boil it really good to make a tea It's good for a cold. You must know what you're doing but nature provided us with mild medications long before man discovered chemistry. LOL
I have a few pieces of tree trunk that my nephew gave me after cutting, however he does not remember what it looks like, can anyone help. In my 66 years of life I've never seen so much beauty then these pieces nor how hard it is, I tried cutting through it but took me awhile, no leaves to be found. The bark is dark but could be discolored but inside I hit gold lol only in color, it's a shinny gold and red as well the gold appears to be the heart ( center of the tree.
True, members of the genus Aesculus that the horse chestnuts and buckeyes, have opposite twig patterns. I have heard the acronym MADBuck. I do not have Buckeye's in my area, so MAD suffices. The American chestnut (Castanea dentata) is part of the beech family and has an alternating twig pattern. Horse chestnuts and American Chestnuts are not the same. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching.
@@OutsideChronicles Thanks for the reply. You made a good video. I'm searching online everywhere I can trying to learn all I can on Maple Tree ID'ing so I can gather some sap. Without leaves it can be hard.
@@RVBob ID'ing maple species are the hardest for me to ID by just bark. There is a wide variation in their bark based on age and species. All maple species give sap, but sugar will yield more. Using MAD or MADBuck opposite twig pattern and can eliminate ash and dogwood which have pretty distinctive bark compared to maple. Good luck, sounds like a fun hobby!
I had an error. I mistakenly said opposite twice when I was describing the twig pattern. Maple, Ash Dogwood are opposite, all other are alternate. Even though I pointed to alternate, I said opposite. Watched it like 10 times and never caught it. I wanted to have accurate info, so I cut it out.
video starts at 1:33. Very good bark ID video but very poor explanation of Ash Borer Beatle destruction. They don't just "make holes", they go in and the larva makes tracks under the bark during the fall and winter and literally peel the bark from the trunk.
True, if you find an Ash tree without bark, you can see where the larvae make the tracks eating the cambium. Also, the majority of the holes are caused by the larvae maturing and boring out of the bark rather than the adults boring into lay eggs. The video's main purpose was tree ID and not invasive species. Thanks for the comment and watching!
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Where I grew up there were nine acres of really old trees.
They formed a triangle and on one side there was a road with a creek beside it.
It was all hilly ground and the only flat area was down by the road and the creek.
In that location there were very large sycamores.
The SMALLEST was ten feet in circumference.
The largest, which was long dead, was over sixteen feet.
There were a couple of huge oaks but it was mainly sycamore.
I wandered those woods nearly every day and spent many days playing in that creek. I called that area my valley of giants.
Years later, I still visit my old friends when I go see my mom.
Most of the woods are gone now, the landlord clear cut most of them but many of the giants in my valley survived the carnage.
Those sights and sounds remind me of simpler days and times, when my escape from an alcoholic and violent father was found under the canopy of trees and messing around in that little creek that was just barely too wide to jump across.
Tennessee tree lover.
Not far from the Smokey's.
Thanks for sharing. Sycamores are one of my favorite trees. I have see some big ones, but nowhere near the size you describe. It would be incredible to see before we were clear cut. There are not many true old growth areas. I am lucky to have a few in WNY.
Loved your tour and I'd tutorial; thank you
What I found so very interesting was how trees differ so very much between continents.
Although I could identify the beech almost immediately, I would never have guessed the cherry you picked out as anything like those we have here in England.
Loved the Shaggy barked Hickory.
Thank you! The shag bark hickory is one of my favorites. It is amazing how different some of the trees can be within my state, New York, and parts of the country. If you go a little bit south or a little bit west, the species change. There have been a few people commenting that my acronym MAD should really be MADBuck, because Buckeye trees have opposite twig patterns. We do not have those in New York, but Ohio, 3 hours to the west, is called the Buckeye state. Thanks for watching!
My childhood forest. I spent so much time there in the 60s with my friend John Lynch (RIP). Great memories.
Love Reinstein, one of my favorite places.
Beech is actually a very late successional tree. They're extremely shade tolerant and the pioneer species tend to be shade intolerant. Also the alternate/opposite configuration you're referring to has to do with the way that the leaves present themselves along the twig, not the way the twig diverges from the branch, so you would need to examine the position on the buds to determine if its configuration is alternate or opposite. As well, butternut trees also have an opposite configuration
I am so stoked I found your channel. This is fantastic
I am glad you found it too, welcome!
Identifying trees can be a great way to enhance your hike. Using the bark to identify trees can be tricky, but there are some species that have very distinctive bark and can be easily ID'ed. Check out our More Winter Tree ID Video (Part 2): ua-cam.com/video/XeUZ4BU8wQk/v-deo.html
Great video, man. Nice walkthrough and plenty of clear info
Thank you!
Thanks for the guide recs. I also like Mark Mikolas' "Beginners guide to recognizing trees of the northeast"
My pleasure! I will have to look at that book. See you outside!
I live in the city but grew up in a rural area . I have been burning wood in a wood furnace since 1986 .I find wood on tree lawns and along the roadside and try to second guess what some of it is. I know oak, maple , sycamore, poplar , cherry, apple, and stay away from pine and willow . There have been some woods that have stumped me . Thanks for recommending the two books.
Ash is a good burning wood, if you have any left in your area. Thanks for the comment.
I have 1 or 2 pieces left of a large amount of wood I could never figure out . It was about 3ft diameter could not be split by hand . The log splitter I rented was big but struggled to split the logs . The inside was orangish in color and very fiberous . It wasn't pine but looked like a California pine in texture on the inside. The out side was kind of scaly. When you picked it up it felt extremely heavy for its size. When it burned it burned very hot and for a long time . Any idea what that might have been? I have one big log left of it, I could never split, still sitting in my back yard. lol
@@ellobo4542 Hard to say without seeing the leaves or bark. You say it was not pine, did you see leaves and they were not needle-like? What part of the country are you in?
Love the old growth at Reinstein and I love learning tree identification! Hope to meet up with you on one of the winter challenge hikes Mike.
Reinstein is a great place for old growth. Zoar is another old growth area in WNY. I would love to show you around Zoar. We should paddle the upper section at some point too.
@@OutsideChronicles ok, good call!
Enjoyable video. Liked the learning experience wrapped with the scenery and descriptive visual language. Thank you
Thanks for the nice comment, much appreciated. If you like the style and information in this video, check out my part 2 winter tree ID video: ua-cam.com/video/XeUZ4BU8wQk/v-deo.html
Excellent video, thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Sweet video. I love identifying trees the last couple of years.
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching, you notice a lot more on the trail when you zoom in on specific species. You also notice the anomalies more. I need to get better at shrubs and understory.
Great video on identifying trees. And I love the bonus shots of the beautiful scenery at Reinstein Woods.
Thanks! Reinstein Woods is a special place.
You did a great job with your video, also your lot is beautiful with the creek in the background!
Thank you! It is a small piece of woods owned by the high school. It’s not very big, but very pretty in winter and fall.
The wood was given to me by my Handyman friend . The customer did not know what it was and he had no clue , it was winter I did not see any leaves. It was located about 2o miles south of Cleveland Oh. off Lake Erie. It was out of an area where homes were built 80 years ago off a road 200ft back in a wooded area ..The bark was scaly orange brown ,when it split it tore apart like pine. The weight was like lead, very noticeable. I have handled a lot of wood since 1986 but nothing like this before or after. The heat off of it was great and burning time was extremely long . Thanks for the books to reference I will try to pick up on them asap.
Did you find out what it could've been?
Sounds like mulberry the bark is a distinctive orange brown and sometimes yellowish when first cut.
Thank you for this informative video. Much appreciated, I learned a lot.
My pleasure, thanks for watching. See you outside!
Great video! Thanks.
Glad you liked it! See you outside!
Nice video! Winter tese ID is fun and a great excuse to get outdoors!
You bet, animal tracking is also a great activity. I am not great at ID's footprints, but am learning. Thanks for watching!
Absolutely loved the channel man, I need help identifying something a very specific Alabama tree, but the problem is, We have a abnormal bunch naturally occurring sir here in northern Alabama where I'm at I'm trying to figure out these European trees we have England's & Germans Elm trees & England Oaks & England Pin trees & American Yellow orange cherry pin & dog wood tree to and European Hickory cherry & oaks that look identical to them by there barks and some kind of Hickory that looks like a white or red oak by it's bark that I need DESPERATE HELP please to identify! Like i said ABNORMAL natural growing & can't explain it ! Respectfully speaking Sir any chance I could even get a guide to know what I'm looking at to find a hickory tree by it's bark alone or wood without the bark alone Sir?
Send me pics of leaves, bark, and twig patterns: Mike@outsidechronicles.com
@@OutsideChronicles p.s it's night here so in the morning I'll email info soon as I get the camera to take pictures Sir. Respectfully thank you sincerely.
Good job from your Ontario neighbor. Those D shaped holes on the EAB infected ash tree are from where the borer exited, not entered.
That makes sense. There are more larvae hatched than parents depositing eggs.
Excellent content. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks so much, see you outside!
love the channel!
Thanks so much!
Learned so much! Thank you!
Cool, glad you enjoyed the video!
wow that brothers from another mother, you rarely see such seperate species coliving so tighly like that as opposed to clear competition
Yes, very cool. There is more cooperation in the forest than most people think.
Excellent video, very helpful. Thanks for sharing.
My pleasure, thanks for the comment!
that docs tackle hats sick 🤙lol
Patagonia steelhead hat, perfect for Western NY. We have amazing steelhead runs from the Great Lakes.
Thank you, very useful information I can use on my walk with my dogs. 👍🖖
My pleasure, be sure to check out part 2: ua-cam.com/video/XeUZ4BU8wQk/v-deo.html
Thanks for making this! I'd love an OC WNY tree cheat sheet to bring on hikes!
Fantastic idea! I’ll see what I can whip up.
Thanks for the video
My pleasure, see you outside!
Great video. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks! I appreciate the comment. Thanks for watching.
Great video dude
Thank you, glad you liked it. I am not scared to admit it, I like trees! Thanks for the comment!
Interesting and informative!
Thank you! Thanks for watching!
thanks dude !!
My pleasure, be sure to check out part 2 ua-cam.com/video/XeUZ4BU8wQk/v-deo.html
Great info. Thank you!
Thanks for the comment and watching!
This was great, Thanks!
Thanks for watching! Hope you are able to notice some of these species on the trail.
@@OutsideChronicles I hug trees all the time. Now I’ll know what kind I’m hugging.🌳🤗
I wonder if you could sort these by which trees use more water or less water? Is there something like that somewhere here?
It would help people who are in different areas figure out which kinds could live in their areas easier.
I do not know of anything that sorts the trees, however most field guides like Sibleys provide a map of the range of each species.
You in wv? If not we have an 18 mile creek in buffalo wv lol I fish there as well
With the exception of Shagbark, I am having a hard time identifying hickories in the winter.
We only have shagbark in my area. I had to go look at the Sibley's guide to see other varieties, but it looks like I live too far north to have anything but shagbark and bitternut. I do not think I have ID'ed the later. I will have to be on the lookout.
You can pick the bark, it doesn't harm the tree.
Boil it really good to make a tea
It's good for a cold.
You must know what you're doing but nature provided us with mild medications long before man discovered chemistry. LOL
nice video bud!
Thank you!
Thanks
No problem, see you outside!
By the way I am from South Louisiana, Cajun country. Not sure if the tree in question is native to these parts.
You have twigs and buds to go by too, btw. Not just bark. And even seeds for certain trees.
Right, there are many ways to ID trees, sometimes you need multiple clues.
I have a few pieces of tree trunk that my nephew gave me after cutting, however he does not remember what it looks like, can anyone help. In my 66 years of life I've never seen so much beauty then these pieces nor how hard it is, I tried cutting through it but took me awhile, no leaves to be found. The bark is dark but could be discolored but inside I hit gold lol only in color, it's a shinny gold and red as well the gold appears to be the heart ( center of the tree.
Osage Orange possibly? Is it sparky when burned (usually does if not aged for awhile)?
There are 4 trees in North America that exhibit opposing branches MAD only covers 3.
Add Chestnut to your list.
True, members of the genus Aesculus that the horse chestnuts and buckeyes, have opposite twig patterns. I have heard the acronym MADBuck. I do not have Buckeye's in my area, so MAD suffices. The American chestnut (Castanea dentata) is part of the beech family and has an alternating twig pattern. Horse chestnuts and American Chestnuts are not the same. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching.
@@OutsideChronicles Thanks for the reply. You made a good video. I'm searching online everywhere I can trying to learn all I can on Maple Tree ID'ing so I can gather some sap. Without leaves it can be hard.
@@RVBob ID'ing maple species are the hardest for me to ID by just bark. There is a wide variation in their bark based on age and species. All maple species give sap, but sugar will yield more. Using MAD or MADBuck opposite twig pattern and can eliminate ash and dogwood which have pretty distinctive bark compared to maple. Good luck, sounds like a fun hobby!
What happened to your video last night? Did you have a problem with the upload
I had an error. I mistakenly said opposite twice when I was describing the twig pattern. Maple, Ash Dogwood are opposite, all other are alternate. Even though I pointed to alternate, I said opposite. Watched it like 10 times and never caught it. I wanted to have accurate info, so I cut it out.
MAD B ... Buckeye is another..
YES! I have heard "Mad Buck". I am in NYS, we do not have any Buckeyes, so we are just MAD. Thanks for the comment and watching.
video starts at 1:33. Very good bark ID video but very poor explanation of Ash Borer Beatle destruction. They don't just "make holes", they go in and the larva makes tracks under the bark during the fall and winter and literally peel the bark from the trunk.
True, if you find an Ash tree without bark, you can see where the larvae make the tracks eating the cambium. Also, the majority of the holes are caused by the larvae maturing and boring out of the bark rather than the adults boring into lay eggs. The video's main purpose was tree ID and not invasive species. Thanks for the comment and watching!
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Mine works too. I used the Woodglut plans and performed it without any problems.
Our ashes are all gone, been gone
It’s sad to see. I hope the hemlock woolly adelgid stays away!
Largest organism in the world has been discovered as a mushroom mycelium colony. Sorry to correct you
It's "kind of neat to see" diseased off-shoots?
It is “neat” to see the trees deploy their defense and survival mechanisms
Thanks a lot for the great video.
My pleasure