I love how straightforward the premise for Valigarmanda Extreme is. In the story it's established that your party was able to take down Valigarmanda with relative ease because it was aether-starved just after waking up, and you killed it before it had the chance to fully restore its power. So the Wandering Minstrel simply has to ask the obvious question: what would it be like to fight Valigarmanda at full strength?
@@elodiealaya The minstrel's ballads may exaggerate how strong the Warrior of Light's foes were, but the tales still have to end in our victory. We're still around, after all.
well we still wipe a lots before getting a hang of it and clear thats mean if we have only 1 life like all the other npc and face it the first time this one will be extremely tough
Naw, more like a minor problem like having a killer bear on the loose. 80 years ago might have been a serious issue, but it went down like a wimp in the MSQ barely doing anything despite its heinous reputation. The combo of being aether deprived + facing One Punch Lamak was too much for it. Having the WoL& the rest as well was a minor bonus added to that lethal combo
Listening to this it really gives the vibe that you are fighting against a legend. This isn't a primal born of faith, this is an ancient creature that wrote it's story on the history of the world.
Crazy that an animal born of flesh into the world can just become so powerful it breaks the shackles of aging and now commands fire that will singe and scorch the earth as long as the creature lives
@@charliemcmillan4561 , there's a similar concept in Monster Hunter Double Cross. Deviants are unique individuals of certain monsters that have survived previous hunts and have become much stronger. I think the Vidraal are akin to Deviants in that they have survived for so long they awaken to immense power but, unlike the auspices of the Far East, they don't gain sentience from their awakening.
@@StrangerForever85 Both concepts take from actual IRL religion, most likely in this case yokai like the Kitsune which are foxes that have trained their spiritual power for so long that they become essentially immortal. You also see similar concepts in Yoruba religion in West Africa/Nigeria with the Orishas who are often compared to gods but are humans and animals and other objects who've done great things who gain divine power because of it.
@@StrangerForever85 Actually, only 2 deviant monsters survived being hunted, that was Bloodbath Diablos and Dead-eye Yian Garuga. All the other deviants adapted through extreme environmental or other circumstances.
This theme is so majestic and fits the grand, imposing essence that is Valigarmanda. It makes doing the normal and EX trials that much more enjoyable too.
The one thing the normal trial lacks compared to the Extreme is the mountain fire tankbuster. It is by FAR the coolest tankbuster we've had in years. It's like the E5S charge buster repeated again and again. The normal trial should have had it at least for a single hit.
I know it's not a hard mechanic to take but swapping off as the tank to take those damn cones is why I tank. Lots of tank busters are just an swing of a weapon with extra windup, or a big rock or laser but when they have that extra-heavy impact it's the bees knees. Plus mechanics that actually require us to stand in the front like the line stacks in the add phase.
@@joshuayung5158 It’s also fun for the healer, in my experience. As a scholar, I’ve actually taken to heal/shielding the tank who will take the next hit, in preparation. It’s a flow that feels really nice to me.
@@enlongjones2394Thank you for that. I've had to pop insane mits for that phase just because the healers only top us tanks off after each hit. It's scary to see your HP plummet into the 4 digit range 😂
@@enlongjones2394i'm an AST, i love scholars thank you for your service. i like to use neutral sect to help us though mountain fire and the three fire stacks right after that but its still harrowing but the SPECTACLE !! i cant be mad
Welcome back grand orchestral boss music. I've missed you. Dont get me wrong, i adore the songs, i love the more upbeat but sometimes you crave that classic boss style theme and holy shit did they hit it out the part with this
@@Gloomdrake I forgot this was on the first trial song, so I deleted my comment lol But trying to avoid specifics (VAGUE SPOILERS AHEAD) She had something that she couldn't even use at the end of the day and the people involved got a whopping 30 minutes of screen time. Wuk Lamat meanwhile gets half a dozen taco and peace speech scenes. You could have taken Krile out and let the WoL carry around the item in question and the Echo would have still pointed us to the people in question. She did NOTHING.
One thing I’ve noticed in Dawntrail with trust is that they are a lot more dynamic with how they play. For example, in this fight, Alisae no matter what, will get hit by one of the aoe mechanics and complain that there was no way she could’ve seen it coming, then when it happens again, she mentions that she’s ready for it and won’t get tricked again. Even when you take her as a trust, she seems a lot more prone to taking a hit or messing up a mechanic, pretty cool trust are being fleshed out more
Similarly to Hydaelyn, Estinien will help Alphinaud evade attacks. And Y'stola is blind. All in all, I love that they aren't perfect. It really gives us healers HEALING to do in trusts. :D
I noticed this too, and it's a great feature. It means you can no longer just follow around the Duty Support/Trust NPCs and blindly trust them. You still have to pay attention to the mechanics.
See. I expected y'know. A big snake. Pretty big. Sizable. Magitek-armor-sized. I have preconceptions about the giant block of ice I had to look at each time I started a new game of FFVI. *I was not expecting to be the size-equivalent of a toothpick I hate snakes*
i dont blame you, it really did look surprisingly small when it was frozen. perspective issue ig. then you see the GIANT BURNING CLAWMARKS IN THE MOUNTAINSIDE, and suddenly it checks out
Honestly true. When you play FF6 that 16 bit sprite work does not do Valimarganda any justice, even the perspectives given of the Ice Prison in FF14 makes it look smaller than it is. I thought Valimarganda was just gonna be Alte Roit Large Edition, I wasn't actually expecting giant snake god of death.
I have a feeling this is Saya Yasaki. She has kinda surprised me with Voidcast Savior for Golbez so I won't be surprised if this is her. Also sounds a little bit like something from Myths of the Realm.
@@hideharu-xiii8852 And that was her first time arranging a trial music. In the same patch, she also made P11 "Fleeting Moment". So 2 major boss themes in a single patch.
@@LightKeyDarkBlade Fleeting Moment is amazing holy crap. If that’s the case then she might have done Eternal Queen too because that tempo really reminds me of Fleeting Moment
@@abdulazizalbelushi7005 :(. It just takes time and practice, that's all. Once you do it multiple times, it's not bad at all. If you do it again, you can do it!
this right here at 3:03 - 3:35 , is so god damn good, I wish it was expanded upon more in terms of capturing that extremely horrifying dread with a choir that sounds afraid to even raise higher above Valigarmanda's might, the chimes in the back too adding a melody in the dark of that feeling
Naoshi Mizuta hasn't been involved in anything FFXIV related since ARR so I highly doubt it, a lot of the FFXIV style just happens to be pretty similar. That being said I do expect them to possibly bring him on board for the alliance raids (if they don't just reuse the original tracks like with Ivalice lol...)
The story was mid, at best. Every single boss fight though has been consistently 8/10 at worst. Absolute blast to play; this extreme in particular straight up has the coolest tankbuster in the whole game
I _was_ going to do this fight with my FC members, but I decided to do it with the NPCs for that truly epic feel. Combined with this music, it was the right call.
Yes and no. Yes in that it's based on the esper from FF6. No in that it's FF14's version of it (in this universe, it's a "Tural Vidraal", an ancient powerful beast).
@@bardicadventurer7887 To be fair, yes. Bahamut is fine and all but feels extremely niche now. If Square came up with another "Bahamut wants to kill things, stop him." for the following DT content, this will not be well received. I found the use of Valigarmanda perfect for Tural, and a welcome addition
Valigarmanda was my favorite subplot from Dawntrail - god what a cool creature. And thinking about how it's in a weakened state and could still body most of the other Primals and Primal-esque entites we've faced so far. Gaaaaah so cool.
My suspicion is that the Extreme version of its trial will be more akin to its full-power state. ...and ill be doing that one lots as soon as i figure out where and when to unlock it - BECAUSE I WANT THOSE DAMN WINGS (x
@@shoulderpyro the minstrel is in tuliyollal, I've already unlocked it (but haven't attempted it ...I haven't didn't an ex since Lakshmi in stormblood)
@@SlamDancinMoogle and the extreme version really holds up to that. He has so many tri-elemental attacks and mechanics. Makes me wish you could fight Valigarmanda in FFVI, instead of just the magical ice prison.
Not quite. Valigarmanda is more implied to be a mishmash of three different beasts, given the nature of tri/tuli-disaster. The common mix I've seen posited is Vritra, Garuda, and Salamander.
@@TheBonkleFoxIt's part of the Aztec/Mexico zone, it's totally Quetzalcoatl. Next you'll tell me the SB primals and auspices were based on western mythos 😂
Did youth and symphony orchestra for nearly 20 years, as a violinist the best part was hearing strings silhouetted against some blasting brass - trumpets, trombones, tuba, or my favorite - French horn.
Man this theme is so damn good. It's majestic and epic and the fight itself is so much fun, especially the EX version. Mount Fire is the coolest mechanic in the entire game and it's such a simple one. Absolute brilliant perfection with the utmost of simplicity
People are saying that Valigarmanda was just an easy fight for the WoL, but I really disagree. Out of the entire party who fights with you on Duty Support, Zoraal Ja is the only one who actively acts like this was easy. All the Scions with you are pretty visibly winded or at least are glad we managed to overcome the beast. Tural legit lucked out that we happened to be there with a stacked party of some of the most powerful heroes and warriors on the entire star. We've already seen that Gulool Ja Ja is strong enough to fight the WoL one on one and actually make us work for it. Zenos and possibly current Estinien are the only other people who could boast that. And considering the spoilers regarding the Dawnservant's health? That's pretty damn impressive. So considering that even Gulool Ja Ja had to have help when he faced Valigarmanda down? And that he couldn't defeat it outright and had to seal it away? I really don't think we're giving Valigarmanda enough credit there. It might not be Zodiark or Endsinger, but that serpent is clearly stronger than the majority of primals and upper tier beings we've met.
All the comes to mind is Aerith’s speech after the trials. Truly beautiful and easily IMO one of the best characters in FF history. Her Yuna-esque dance in the temple made me love her character even more.
I have this weird fanfic. In it, portals started opening between Aetherys and Earth after the Final Days. While the politicians played Cat and Mouse, two reporters decided: "Fuck it, let's go and see how life is there, instead of arguing about it." The Eorzean Leaders took note of them, and put them in contact with the Warrior of Light. Who talked to Wuk Lamat. What should've been a reportage about life in Eorzea ended up being the story of how a princess became queen by finding the El Dorado. Safe for what should remain secret, they filmed everything, including the fight versus Valigarmanda. And when they saw it, our dear politicians collectively thought: *"Okay, we would **_not_** win a war of aggression here, let's never piss these people off."* ...my mind is weird like that all the time.
Similar to how Golbez fight felt when it came to the theme music, this is one of the few fights where I miss the sound effects along with the theme! It's so good, but just not the same without the incredible sound design of the different elemental attacks.
I don't plan on uploading it. All the music from there is taken directly from FF11 unchanged, so it isn't really "FF14" music. There are FF11 playlists that deserve some love, and I'm not about to deprive them!
Not playing DT yet due to IRL and spoiled myself (but idc at this point), anyone hear some of Valkyrie Profile 2 OST from Motoi Sakuraba? Mostly the cellos. Also some DA Inquisition, from what the others said. Excellent boss theme otherwise, Ex version looks interesting also
Valigarmanda isn't an Eikon, but a Turaal Vidraal-more or less a very powerful, very long lived monster that specific people hunt down in order to prevent them from causing issues. Vali is one of the strongest of them, if not the strongest. Spoilers: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Valigarmanda is referred to as the Skyruin and its fury could very much end the lives of thousand due to its mastery of Fire, Lightning and Ice related magics. It was tricked into freezing itself 80 years prior to MSQ by Turaal's Dawnservant and his allies after a fierce battle and, after it gets free in story, the Warrior of Light, Wuk Lamat, two other candidates for the Dawnservant position and some members of the Scions slay it before it can regain its full power.
@@Lorekeeperhaos Ah I see. When I first saw it I thought this guy will be a new eikon worshiped by local beastmen in tural, not a powerfull beast with godlike power
@@Solusiradikal Fair. Based on story beats and the like, I don't think we're going to see worshipped Eikons for a long while compared to Auracite related matters or legendary monsters in the world. Still have a lot to explore and see though and DT's patch content, so I could be wrong.
Ex is fun as hell but man Mount Grinding is Mind Numbing, but the wings are way cooler than those inbred Couerls. Edit: I had to get 99 Totems, and now wait until 7.1. I saw the damn things drop only 4 times, fuck PF.
Valigarmanda uses fire, lightning and ice magic and stands very still for a lot of the fight. This bird is pretty much a Black Mage main.
HAHAHAHAA Good One!!! Black Mages should get a skill based on this trial, a Valigarmanda Ultimate Skill
@@Sacrengard give us disaster zone as a spell or give us death. either way i'm adopting the bird. it don't bite.
Give us tri disaster the ultimate skill of Valigarmanda from FF6@@Sacrengard
@@CommanderBizoune Summoners have Tri-Disaster
@@urfhorf of course it had to be the only job I never touched that has it
I love how straightforward the premise for Valigarmanda Extreme is. In the story it's established that your party was able to take down Valigarmanda with relative ease because it was aether-starved just after waking up, and you killed it before it had the chance to fully restore its power. So the Wandering Minstrel simply has to ask the obvious question: what would it be like to fight Valigarmanda at full strength?
And it still gets trounced.
@@elodiealaya The minstrel's ballads may exaggerate how strong the Warrior of Light's foes were, but the tales still have to end in our victory. We're still around, after all.
@@elodiealayaWould be very weird if we could trounce Perfect Alexander and Alpha Omega in his eyes, but not a bird...
@@zeelyweely1590 That ain't no bird. That's a dragon of a different kind, now.
well we still wipe a lots before getting a hang of it and clear thats mean if we have only 1 life like all the other npc and face it the first time this one will be extremely tough
For all Tural it was fight for their own existence. For warrior of light it was tuesday
No suprise for our God-slayer
Thats why i dress like M Bison
@@charliemcmillan4561"Ohohoho! This is DELICIOUS! YES! YYYYES!"
The warrior light is not invincible
Naw, more like a minor problem like having a killer bear on the loose. 80 years ago might have been a serious issue, but it went down like a wimp in the MSQ barely doing anything despite its heinous reputation.
The combo of being aether deprived + facing One Punch Lamak was too much for it. Having the WoL& the rest as well was a minor bonus added to that lethal combo
Listening to this it really gives the vibe that you are fighting against a legend. This isn't a primal born of faith, this is an ancient creature that wrote it's story on the history of the world.
Crazy that an animal born of flesh into the world can just become so powerful it breaks the shackles of aging and now commands fire that will singe and scorch the earth as long as the creature lives
@@charliemcmillan4561 , there's a similar concept in Monster Hunter Double Cross. Deviants are unique individuals of certain monsters that have survived previous hunts and have become much stronger. I think the Vidraal are akin to Deviants in that they have survived for so long they awaken to immense power but, unlike the auspices of the Far East, they don't gain sentience from their awakening.
@@StrangerForever85 Both concepts take from actual IRL religion, most likely in this case yokai like the Kitsune which are foxes that have trained their spiritual power for so long that they become essentially immortal. You also see similar concepts in Yoruba religion in West Africa/Nigeria with the Orishas who are often compared to gods but are humans and animals and other objects who've done great things who gain divine power because of it.
@@greywitchleila , I don't know anything about Yoruba culture, so thanks for that one. I was just going with what it reminded me of.
@@StrangerForever85 Actually, only 2 deviant monsters survived being hunted, that was Bloodbath Diablos and Dead-eye Yian Garuga. All the other deviants adapted through extreme environmental or other circumstances.
This theme is so majestic and fits the grand, imposing essence that is Valigarmanda. It makes doing the normal and EX trials that much more enjoyable too.
The one thing the normal trial lacks compared to the Extreme is the mountain fire tankbuster. It is by FAR the coolest tankbuster we've had in years. It's like the E5S charge buster repeated again and again. The normal trial should have had it at least for a single hit.
I know it's not a hard mechanic to take but swapping off as the tank to take those damn cones is why I tank. Lots of tank busters are just an swing of a weapon with extra windup, or a big rock or laser but when they have that extra-heavy impact it's the bees knees. Plus mechanics that actually require us to stand in the front like the line stacks in the add phase.
I love it as you said it reminds me of E5S or a more dynamic Susano's sword moment, you actually feel like you are defending your party.
@@joshuayung5158
It’s also fun for the healer, in my experience.
As a scholar, I’ve actually taken to heal/shielding the tank who will take the next hit, in preparation. It’s a flow that feels really nice to me.
@@enlongjones2394Thank you for that. I've had to pop insane mits for that phase just because the healers only top us tanks off after each hit. It's scary to see your HP plummet into the 4 digit range 😂
@@enlongjones2394i'm an AST, i love scholars thank you for your service. i like to use neutral sect to help us though mountain fire and the three fire stacks right after that but its still harrowing but the SPECTACLE !! i cant be mad
Welcome back grand orchestral boss music. I've missed you. Dont get me wrong, i adore the songs, i love the more upbeat but sometimes you crave that classic boss style theme and holy shit did they hit it out the part with this
This feels like what fighting a legendary pokemon would be like.
you hit the nail on the head, wow i was wondering why the theme and fight made me almost nostalgic
This would be the theme of Ho-Ho
Vali is kinda a mix of the legendary birds and Rayquaza
Krile quick, draw a giant boot to place this snake in!
I would prefer a plane
ITS A CHICKEN
YOU FRY IT!!!
Krile was so underutilized this entire expansion
@@Professor_Utonium_bro didn’t play the whole expansion
@@Gloomdrake I forgot this was on the first trial song, so I deleted my comment lol But trying to avoid specifics (VAGUE SPOILERS AHEAD)
She had something that she couldn't even use at the end of the day and the people involved got a whopping 30 minutes of screen time. Wuk Lamat meanwhile gets half a dozen taco and peace speech scenes. You could have taken Krile out and let the WoL carry around the item in question and the Echo would have still pointed us to the people in question. She did NOTHING.
Close Enough welcome back Monster Hunter World
Now all we need is additional strong percussion and we got ourselves a Mount theme.
Monster hunter wilds now
Valigarmanda does have an Elder Dragon feel to it. Majestic theme to match.
@@Kaligraphy22 It uses fire, lightning, and ice magic just like alatreon
Je suis monté!
I loved how this played right before entering the final dungeon of MSQ. So much determination and so heroic it was perfect.
I THOUGHT I had recognized that song when i heard it before the final dungeon. I just couldnt quite pinpoint it lol
One thing I’ve noticed in Dawntrail with trust is that they are a lot more dynamic with how they play.
For example, in this fight, Alisae no matter what, will get hit by one of the aoe mechanics and complain that there was no way she could’ve seen it coming, then when it happens again, she mentions that she’s ready for it and won’t get tricked again.
Even when you take her as a trust, she seems a lot more prone to taking a hit or messing up a mechanic, pretty cool trust are being fleshed out more
I really love this in the second trial, Wuk gets hit by a lot of mechanics and says something like "I have no idea what I'm doing okay?!"
Similarly to Hydaelyn, Estinien will help Alphinaud evade attacks. And Y'stola is blind.
All in all, I love that they aren't perfect. It really gives us healers HEALING to do in trusts. :D
I noticed this too, and it's a great feature.
It means you can no longer just follow around the Duty Support/Trust NPCs and blindly trust them. You still have to pay attention to the mechanics.
@@wannabesomeone average WAR player
Krile also ACTUALLY USES AOES
When you are doing the ex version and 0:58 syncs up with the most epic tankbuster in the game :chef's_kiss:
Underrated track, makes him feel like a fucking King. It's so royal.
This theme is absolute brilliance, my mind keeps coming back to figure out how this song is literally perfect from start to finish.
love the mythical vibe this gives; really hones in on the beast of legend that is valigarmanda.
This feels like a mix between fire emblem and Monster Hunter in the best way possible
here's to you fellow fire emblem fan
With a touch of Dragon Age Inquisition too.
Yes I can hear this for both MH and FE. :)
See.
I expected y'know. A big snake. Pretty big. Sizable. Magitek-armor-sized. I have preconceptions about the giant block of ice I had to look at each time I started a new game of FFVI.
*I was not expecting to be the size-equivalent of a toothpick I hate snakes*
i dont blame you, it really did look surprisingly small when it was frozen. perspective issue ig. then you see the GIANT BURNING CLAWMARKS IN THE MOUNTAINSIDE, and suddenly it checks out
Honestly true. When you play FF6 that 16 bit sprite work does not do Valimarganda any justice, even the perspectives given of the Ice Prison in FF14 makes it look smaller than it is. I thought Valimarganda was just gonna be Alte Roit Large Edition, I wasn't actually expecting giant snake god of death.
Fem Roe here, my character is 6 foot 6 and boy can i relate LMFAO!!
@@TheAuron32 I'm a 4'11" Miqo'te girl and I felt like the piece of jerky that gets stuck between your teeth.
@@Restilia_ch LMFAO!!! yeah i bet ya felt real small!
First time I've seen in FFXIV where an unavailable species is in a Duty support and which i mean the Mamoo Ja(Who is using the Viper class)
There's a poroggo in thegreat gubal library and the antitower too!
technically speaking, the Ancients in Elpis are as unavailable as it gets :^)
@@ApexGale let me play an ancient i wanna be 20 feet tall in limsa and have to crawl into hawkers alley to reach the summoning bell
@@charliemcmillan4561creating a crawl animation in Limsa is unleashing a horror for which you are not prepared to comprehend.
@@joshuayung5158 you are absolutely right
I have a feeling this is Saya Yasaki. She has kinda surprised me with Voidcast Savior for Golbez so I won't be surprised if this is her. Also sounds a little bit like something from Myths of the Realm.
Voidcast Savior is a jam. Good on her
@@hideharu-xiii8852 And that was her first time arranging a trial music. In the same patch, she also made P11 "Fleeting Moment". So 2 major boss themes in a single patch.
@@LightKeyDarkBlade Fleeting Moment is amazing holy crap. If that’s the case then she might have done Eternal Queen too because that tempo really reminds me of Fleeting Moment
@@hideharu-xiii8852 I never thought about that. I was thinking Soken or Imamura but it could probably be Yasaki.
Spanish Alatreon doesn't mess around
I feel so dumb for not making this connection sooner, but you're absolutely right
Now I want a Valimarganda vs Alatreon fight. It would be an ecological disaster, but my lord would it be fun.
This is not spanish altreon.
alatreon is already spanish alatreon with the amount of latin american influence in mh3
@@Deode-d4h MH Wilds crossover quest idea lmao
The Linear Stack Marker goes so hard... I loved every moment of that.
Just reached this boss today and I love this track. Glad I can listen to it on loop now :)
I must say, the EX fight of this is awesome! Glad they didn't just make them easy; just cleared it yesterday.
Cleared yesterday such an epic fight. Music is amazing.
I gave up on extreme it's too hard for me tbh
@@abdulazizalbelushi7005 :(. It just takes time and practice, that's all. Once you do it multiple times, it's not bad at all. If you do it again, you can do it!
@@abdulazizalbelushi7005Keep trying, dude. One you get past the add phase, it's a breeze
I'm still currently progging it but it'd true. Once you see certain mechanics enough it just becomes a smooth dance.
From about 3:26 to 3:32 you can hear the leitmotif of Torn From the Heavens in the background. Brilliant.
This was the first current-content EX i cleared on patch. We tried Zeromus in 6.5, but kept wiping to the meteors. This is genuinely an awesome time.
Trust me when I say it's a much better EX1 than Zodiark was last expac, on launch or otherwise
Same, me and my gf cleared the EX version of this last night, first High End Duty I've ever cleared
this right here at 3:03 - 3:35 , is so god damn good, I wish it was expanded upon more in terms of capturing that extremely horrifying dread with a choir that sounds afraid to even raise higher above Valigarmanda's might, the chimes in the back too adding a melody in the dark of that feeling
this sounds like Naoshi Mizuta had their hands all over this
welcome back XI, i'm psyched for your raids
I uh, I went back to play it again leading up to Dawntrail and that was kind of a mistake LOL
Naoshi Mizuta hasn't been involved in anything FFXIV related since ARR so I highly doubt it, a lot of the FFXIV style just happens to be pretty similar. That being said I do expect them to possibly bring him on board for the alliance raids (if they don't just reuse the original tracks like with Ivalice lol...)
Even though it's literally just the Urqopacha theme, I love the bit at 2:20
Fresh off this guy with Duty Support, absolutely good stuff...this expansion is delivering no matter what some might say!
The story was mid, at best. Every single boss fight though has been consistently 8/10 at worst. Absolute blast to play; this extreme in particular straight up has the coolest tankbuster in the whole game
I’ve just started its extreme, and the music really keeps my motivation high. So grand!
The percussion on this one goes undeniably hard.
I _was_ going to do this fight with my FC members, but I decided to do it with the NPCs for that truly epic feel. Combined with this music, it was the right call.
Seeing a War as dps and RDM as healer was pretty sus. 😂
@@CrystVeno Alisaie is a cheater
@@williek08472So's Wuk Lamat if she's dps. She's still going to tank
…. So this is the frozen esper of ff6
Yes and no.
Yes in that it's based on the esper from FF6.
No in that it's FF14's version of it (in this universe, it's a "Tural Vidraal", an ancient powerful beast).
@@elinfini …
Bahamut: “am I just a joke now?”
@@bardicadventurer7887 To be fair, yes. Bahamut is fine and all but feels extremely niche now. If Square came up with another "Bahamut wants to kill things, stop him." for the following DT content, this will not be well received. I found the use of Valigarmanda perfect for Tural, and a welcome addition
Valigarmanda was my favorite subplot from Dawntrail - god what a cool creature. And thinking about how it's in a weakened state and could still body most of the other Primals and Primal-esque entites we've faced so far. Gaaaaah so cool.
My suspicion is that the Extreme version of its trial will be more akin to its full-power state.
...and ill be doing that one lots as soon as i figure out where and when to unlock it - BECAUSE I WANT THOSE DAMN WINGS (x
@@shoulderpyro the minstrel is in tuliyollal, I've already unlocked it (but haven't attempted it ...I haven't didn't an ex since Lakshmi in stormblood)
@@redcloud16 ah thanks! I'll visit him in a bit then c:
The fact that this was Tritoch from FFVI (later renamed Valigarmanda) is what had me so incredibly hype. The fight was a lot of fun.
@@SlamDancinMoogle and the extreme version really holds up to that. He has so many tri-elemental attacks and mechanics. Makes me wish you could fight Valigarmanda in FFVI, instead of just the magical ice prison.
Look! It's the legendary feathered serpent Kukulkan / Quetzalcoatl !!!
Not quite. Valigarmanda is more implied to be a mishmash of three different beasts, given the nature of tri/tuli-disaster. The common mix I've seen posited is Vritra, Garuda, and Salamander.
@@TheBonkleFoxI would disagree, considering this expansion is specifically Mesoamerican themed. "Feathered serpent" is one of Quetzalcoatl's epithets
It's also an Esper originally introduced in Final Fantasy VI in a very different context (excavated by a steam punk mining town)
@@TheBonkleFoxIt's part of the Aztec/Mexico zone, it's totally Quetzalcoatl. Next you'll tell me the SB primals and auspices were based on western mythos 😂
But we already got quetzacotyl as a dungeon boss
Once again the sound team made great tracks expansion-wide.
I just want to say I love how the all the Turali NPCs pronounce ValigarMANNNNNNda's name
lol that poor black mage at 5:59… you left him to die to the stack and then he died again due to raidwide. real black mage gameplay pdhdhdjdjd
Love how the trombones bring it home at 2:40
Best part of the song, no question.
Did youth and symphony orchestra for nearly 20 years, as a violinist the best part was hearing strings silhouetted against some blasting brass - trumpets, trombones, tuba, or my favorite - French horn.
Best trial in DT so far.
Zoraal ja’s a close second for me but this shit was so hype
My favourite trial out of the three, I like this theme the most, Soken cooked so hard this expansion.
The more and more I do this fight, the more I believe this is what the Monster Hunter collab should've been.
The EX is the coolest shit on earth mountain fire makes me nut every time its done
Right?! This is so active, barely allowing you to stay put for a few seconds. The only thing missing is mounted attacks and breaking parts.
Man this theme is so damn good. It's majestic and epic and the fight itself is so much fun, especially the EX version. Mount Fire is the coolest mechanic in the entire game and it's such a simple one. Absolute brilliant perfection with the utmost of simplicity
People are saying that Valigarmanda was just an easy fight for the WoL, but I really disagree. Out of the entire party who fights with you on Duty Support, Zoraal Ja is the only one who actively acts like this was easy.
All the Scions with you are pretty visibly winded or at least are glad we managed to overcome the beast. Tural legit lucked out that we happened to be there with a stacked party of some of the most powerful heroes and warriors on the entire star.
We've already seen that Gulool Ja Ja is strong enough to fight the WoL one on one and actually make us work for it. Zenos and possibly current Estinien are the only other people who could boast that. And considering the spoilers regarding the Dawnservant's health? That's pretty damn impressive.
So considering that even Gulool Ja Ja had to have help when he faced Valigarmanda down? And that he couldn't defeat it outright and had to seal it away?
I really don't think we're giving Valigarmanda enough credit there. It might not be Zodiark or Endsinger, but that serpent is clearly stronger than the majority of primals and upper tier beings we've met.
To be fair, it was freed in a considerably weakened state. Hence why it went to that mountain in order to replenish its strength.
Everyone came here for @2:18
This song is growing on me as i keep wiping to the ex trial. Its not the most epic but damn is it good.
I had the same as you
Didn't clicked with me at first but after wiping while.progging it became one of my favorite in DT
honestly the sound design helps it a lot
4:30 - Perfectly timed Rising Phoenix from the MNK to sync up with the song!
All the comes to mind is Aerith’s speech after the trials. Truly beautiful and easily IMO one of the best characters in FF history. Her Yuna-esque dance in the temple made me love her character even more.
i swear i hear some Dragon Age Inquisition motif at the beginning
YES
I do too, when the choir kicks in it just reinforces the sentiment
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holy shit i'm so glad it wasn't just me that heard this
The EX of this fight is the coolest shit on earth and its not even that much harder
A collab with MH Wilds and Valigarmanda should happen. IT WOULD BE PERFECT!!!
This thing would be fucking terrifying in monster hunter
I just got my wings yesterday! Such an awesome fight and track. You even feel majestic while this plays as you fly around :D
I do love that we are seeing another Auspice whose aramitama is unleashed.
Long time no see Tritoch. Yes It Is the very same one from FF6
And I am now just realizing this. not to mention we first meet him trapped in ice O-O
Very Dragon Age inquisition Music vibes! I super dig it!
When you finally break free after sixty years and the freakin WoL just happens to be nearby
When Monster Hunter Wilds comes out i would love to see a collab again where you can hunt Valigarmanda
That avalanche mechanic was really cool.
Would love to see another crossover with monster hunter, It would be sick to be able to hunt Valigarmanda.
Such a masterpiece
when you combined FFXIV soken with Monster hunter vibe theme
You get
A MASTERPIECE
A fellow AST. Respect. o7
Damn the first minute of this track gives me chills
Had it on roulette as an Ast today. Did it once before as a dancer. What a thrill.
I’ve killed this chicken 60 times now going for the mount, I can hear this song in my sleep.
Such a goated peak theme 💜
the ex is awesome
best tank buster they've put out in a while
I can see they're really doubling down on the "Sanderson Avalanche" school of storytelling here. Great change of pace!
I'm getting Final Boss Sands of Destruction vibes from this track.
The two dislikes are people who didn't win the fight
Yes! But how do u see the dilikes ? It's not visible for me anymore.
So how's everyones wing farm going? I've only seen them drop twice and I've run it 50 times now.
WoL: Just another overgrown Zu.
Mountain Zu
I always wondered could Valigarmanda be an unknown primal that flew under the radar since it got frozen
I have this weird fanfic.
In it, portals started opening between Aetherys and Earth after the Final Days.
While the politicians played Cat and Mouse, two reporters decided: "Fuck it, let's go and see how life is there, instead of arguing about it."
The Eorzean Leaders took note of them, and put them in contact with the Warrior of Light. Who talked to Wuk Lamat.
What should've been a reportage about life in Eorzea ended up being the story of how a princess became queen by finding the El Dorado. Safe for what should remain secret, they filmed everything, including the fight versus Valigarmanda.
And when they saw it, our dear politicians collectively thought: *"Okay, we would **_not_** win a war of aggression here, let's never piss these people off."*
...my mind is weird like that all the time.
Similar to how Golbez fight felt when it came to the theme music, this is one of the few fights where I miss the sound effects along with the theme! It's so good, but just not the same without the incredible sound design of the different elemental attacks.
The bird teaches 3 elemental -ga level magic.
Alte Roite is that you
The primal of California!
The -primal- legendary beast of California
My favorite boss theme so far
that is a big fucking snake.
Okay I'm not the only one hearing the Lost Odyssey theme at 1:45 right
This is what Gulool Ja Ja had to fight
I like to think the EX is a faithful recreation of his fight
This fight and its ex version is the best of the expansion
Hello again Tritoch. It's been quite a while...
I faught this on trust characters it was so much fun
Damn! Soken is a god damn genius, he went all out this expansion.
Not to say that his previous work was bad or anything.
Pretty sure this is Tritoch, from ffvi.
Valigarmanda is its _actual_ (i.e. "correct") name, yes.
Tritoch was just one of the many "Woolseyisms" that FFIII (US) had.
When's the jueno raid music. Those are wild to hear
I don't plan on uploading it. All the music from there is taken directly from FF11 unchanged, so it isn't really "FF14" music. There are FF11 playlists that deserve some love, and I'm not about to deprive them!
@uvi- nooooooo I really like your format. Do you have their links
Wuk Lamat see's Shinryu: Oh hey, we have that guy at home!
Shinryu at home:
Peruvian shinryu
Not playing DT yet due to IRL and spoiled myself (but idc at this point), anyone hear some of Valkyrie Profile 2 OST from Motoi Sakuraba? Mostly the cellos. Also some DA Inquisition, from what the others said. Excellent boss theme otherwise, Ex version looks interesting also
I can somewhat hear some flavour of Lezard Valeth’s themes in this so I see what you mean!
I can hear both of what you are talking about. Alot of it is the big drums doing like a godly march.
Dont typically get this in XIV.
This gives me Dark souls vibes
Alright, which Elpis resident decided to create this one?😂
Wait a damn minute, valogarmanda can speak?!?! 2:32
Tritoch is that you?
FFVI vibessss
So this is the new eikon introduce in Dawntrail?
Valigarmanda isn't an Eikon, but a Turaal Vidraal-more or less a very powerful, very long lived monster that specific people hunt down in order to prevent them from causing issues. Vali is one of the strongest of them, if not the strongest.
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Valigarmanda is referred to as the Skyruin and its fury could very much end the lives of thousand due to its mastery of Fire, Lightning and Ice related magics. It was tricked into freezing itself 80 years prior to MSQ by Turaal's Dawnservant and his allies after a fierce battle and, after it gets free in story, the Warrior of Light, Wuk Lamat, two other candidates for the Dawnservant position and some members of the Scions slay it before it can regain its full power.
@@Lorekeeperhaos Ah I see. When I first saw it I thought this guy will be a new eikon worshiped by local beastmen in tural, not a powerfull beast with godlike power
@@Solusiradikal Fair. Based on story beats and the like, I don't think we're going to see worshipped Eikons for a long while compared to Auracite related matters or legendary monsters in the world. Still have a lot to explore and see though and DT's patch content, so I could be wrong.
It is the same exact thing as the four lords in Stormblood. Beings that lived long enough to become something else
@@Solusiradikal idk if it is said if you haven't done the Stormblood trials but it's compared more to the auspices in Hingashi than primals
Ex is fun as hell but man Mount Grinding is Mind Numbing, but the wings are way cooler than those inbred Couerls.
Edit: I had to get 99 Totems, and now wait until 7.1. I saw the damn things drop only 4 times, fuck PF.
Do we have any access to the orchestratation yet?
Ive heard its a drop in the EX
@@Krysta1Rose do we have a name?
@@nerocole6734 The orch roll is called "The Skyruin" drops as a faded copy from extreme
@@chrisguppy7305 Isn't it called Blessings on The Bluffs?
@@pharys nah Blessings on the bluffs is the orch drop from tender valley dungeon