This period was truly lightning in a bottle. Most every book just gave off this gothic punk rock vibe, to a point where at times, I hear Bauhaus is playing through the pages.
Vertigo had it's day. It was there when it was necessary, like video rental stores it disappeared when it became surplus to requirement. It won't be forgotten all the same.
I had no attraction to comic books, but I discovered Sandman and it was fucking awesome. Them Lucifer woow, maybe vertigo is dying, but I will read everything from vertigo
Flex Mentallo: Man of Muscle Mystery …is also one of Vertigo’s greatest stories and one that transcends the medium itself a lot like The Sandman. It was such an important book for not just DC/Vertigo, but the writer & artist (Grant Morrison, absolute legend; Frank Quitely, another absolute legend)… …to the point that Morrison & DC fought in court to get the publishing rights back from the Charles Atlas Estate. Flex Mentallo, the character itself and his origin story, was a parody of the old comic strips that Charles Atlas used to advertise his workout products in comic books on; Morrison’s Magnum Opus being based upon a character created from such a disparate source and it being that personal for him to fight for over a decade in court and win the rights back to the story should clue you into just how incredible and life-changing a story it truly is. It was long considered “a lost classic” (from 1997-2011) for a reason.
3:40 thank you! i had to explain this to a friend, they were already dumping the code in their Prestige Format, with titles that would go on to be Vertigo but as well stuff like Batman The Cult). I do miss this era in the 90s when it came fully online, i felt i came of age alongside the format.
The WildStorm Eye of the Storm imprint was kinda connected to Vertigo for the mature reader’s suggestion. Astro City & Tom Strong were the only 2 Vertigo comics that aren’t 17+ which they are Teen+.
"Why these titles didn't find an audience"? How about the audience got fatigued left and didn't know about these new titles at all. Only with your coverage did I just now learn of them.
Vertigo has some good stories still, such as American Carnage, Scalped, Sweet Tooth, and American Vampire. But I agree with you, Vertigo's a shadow of what it once was and I wish the executives at DC would realize that Vertigo needs to go...as painful as it is for me to admit that.
DC Black Label was its successor and that turned out to be an even bigger dumpsterfire than then-modern day Vertigo. Maybe if they never hired morons like [A*** K*****] and [Developer of Depression Quest & Talker Into S**cide of their Ex] and focused on creator-owned stories more than trying to make more adaptable DC Comics stories (huge failures on their part as of The New 52 to Now)…then DC wouldn’t have had to shut them down. Saying it needed to be put down is like saying that it’s impossible for anything to turn itself around and is so unbelievably cynical, it makes one wonder how sad the person saying that is on the inside. Then again, Image is in the gutter lately (2016-Now), so you’re not wrong. Sort of. Mr. “My Goal is to get all Old White Men Out of Comics” (see above names for a clue) is the reason for Vertigo’s inevitable closure and failure to turn itself around. His MO, like those of his ilk, is to spread the gospel of ignorance towards any sort of history while astroturfing the present as though History itself was worse than it actually was. Which is to say that DC hired Big Brother to redact and censor their books as an Editor while claiming were still at war with Eastasia…but in time, these grifters and Bad Actors will get their comeuppance and the exclusion from the very things they wanted to destroy; when they scream and cry for forgiveness… We’ll whisper, practically mouthing, a single phrase: “No”
There was a time when I was engrossed deeply in the pages of The Sandman, Flex Mentallo, and The Invisibles that I was barely ever buying a comic that didn't have the Vertigo Comics imprint on the cover. Now I can't remember the last time I bought a Vertigo comic. I know they are getting desperate to the point where they are releasing a comic book with Jesus in it that's getting people to protest it's printing. But it seems like they made it not to tell a compelling story but to gain attention through the shock factor. If it works I expect a graphic novel about Allah in New York coming out before the end of the year.
Yeah...the earlier stuff makes me cringe nowadays. At least once every few months I seriously consider pulling all the stuff that's older than a few years. No joke.
I would say DMZ and iZombie also connected with an audience, not only Fables and Y. Also, it's funny that DC is bringing back Vertigo. They have so many imprints right now that it's crazy. Milestone, Wildstorm, Hannah Barbera, Zoom, Ink, New Age of Heroes, Black Label, Young Animal (definitely the best one!)... Stuff from Vertigo keeps getting reprinted in Image (Aaron's The Other Side), and one of their most popular series in the recent years is on hiatus (American Vampire). I would love to see a video in which you discuss other failed old DC imprints like Helix, All-Star, Impact Comics... I love listening to you explain stuff!
iZombie's final season is coming next year as well as Y is getting a show on FX which I know will kick ass! I really like the new Shade comics as well and I wish it went on longer but with Young Animal being killed off, it'll probably never happen.
@@nikomiller ye its sad they killed it. But vertigo was just where dc dumped all their r rated and graphic stuff. They are replacing it with the new dc black label tho.
damn rip vertigo, i loved the hellblazer comics because in my opinion john constantine is a great DC character in general. im somewhat happy that netflix is implementing different vertigo comics as shows like lucifer and sandman coming out next year.
Dang it where do I know that intro music from? Also nice video. Vertigo is so cool. Think I could be happy hunting and reading them for the rest of my life
Fables was one of the first comics i got rly into.. from there i read a bunch of other great vertigo titles.. Y.. american vampire .. scalped.. i think i agree with ..image kinda being there downfall to some degree.. but vertigo got me into comics.. so ill stand by them .. there dropping some new books in august..
Well unfortunately, you were right. As DC disolved it becoming DC Black Label. But rather than serving as Vertigo's successor, it also serves as an predecessor of DC's Elseworld. Basically becoming DC'S answer to Marvel MAX. when it was still relevant
@@jaredgarcia8638 such as? i think its a good opportunity to add some mainline DC heroes to vertigo(i know its defunct) they really had something going on with vertigo.
@@jaredgarcia8638 something different, more mythical and probably realistic and more deconstructionist, thou they should avoid the evil route. I personally liked the joker movie since it was unique and basically a made up lore about an existing character, they can do that for Vertigo possibly for movies and books.
I heard from somewhere that something that could save Vertigo is "American Vampire". Scott Snyder never gave it a real conclusion and he's might come back to it later this year. With his return to "American Vampire" there's going to be a relaunch with new titles.
Hey im trying to put together all of the on the ledge checklist pages from the first 10 years but there is some missing, can anyone help me find sources on the internet?
Muktuk Wolfsbreath, Hard boiled Shaman, was an amazing title when Terry Laban did the art & story. Original, funny, and lively. The artist in the Vertigo series was more realistic, and it lost some of Terry’s humor. But it was still a decent book. It should be re-examined along with the original run.
So far, I've not tried out any of the titles, so I don't really have an opinion. Cave Carson and Shade look interesting, but I've yet to try them out. Any title stand out to you that I should read?
The only title i read, and i liked it a lot, was the new Doom Patrol. I think it's supposed to serve as an introduction to the whole line/universe and what you can expect going in. All the old characters show up, like Robot man and Flex Mentallo, but the protagonist is a new audience-perspective character. There are also sneak peaks of the other titles like Shade here and there.
8:13 screw that i'm not gonna any superhero comics in my comic book company there a bad influence on people kay cause i don't like superheroes in general. p.s there the worst.
In order to live it is going to have to die. then we will get some real Vertigo again. the stuff for 2018-2019 is the most blaring identity stuff ever. YIKES.
Sorry, I simply do not subscribe to the "over written" comics B.S.narrative I've been hearing far too often! I think the real problem is we're dealing with a generation raised on reading sparsely written manga, which has produced too many LAZY readers! Readers who are also notoriously BAD spellers! Too bad, I was enjoying the video until you made that comment!
@@laststrike4411 I read Manga before it was widely available in the U.S. through CATALAN and the English translation of Nakazawa's autobio-- both were difficult to find! As for the overuse of exclamation points, I plead guilty. I've LOVED comics ever since I first discovered them; ALL sorts of comics, not just Manga. ADDENDUM After having said all of the above, I will admit one thing: I can't stand "dry" prose in ANY format! If I don't find the writer's work interesting, especially the prose-- CLUNK! It goes straight into the donation box or the trash bin!
This period was truly lightning in a bottle. Most every book just gave off this gothic punk rock vibe, to a point where at times, I hear Bauhaus is playing through the pages.
Berger is hands down the best editor of all time.
Vertigo had it's day. It was there when it was necessary, like video rental stores it disappeared when it became surplus to requirement. It won't be forgotten all the same.
I had no attraction to comic books, but I discovered Sandman and it was fucking awesome. Them Lucifer woow, maybe vertigo is dying, but I will read everything from vertigo
Romeo Anisoreac they've folded into the New 52 of DC. It's amazingly done for the most part
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Karen Berger moved todo Dark Horse. There she directs the Bergerverse, were they publish material similar to Vertigo.
You can try Watchmen too if you want too
Flex Mentallo: Man of Muscle Mystery
…is also one of Vertigo’s greatest stories and one that transcends the medium itself a lot like The Sandman. It was such an important book for not just DC/Vertigo, but the writer & artist (Grant Morrison, absolute legend; Frank Quitely, another absolute legend)…
…to the point that Morrison & DC fought in court to get the publishing rights back from the Charles Atlas Estate.
Flex Mentallo, the character itself and his origin story, was a parody of the old comic strips that Charles Atlas used to advertise his workout products in comic books on; Morrison’s Magnum Opus being based upon a character created from such a disparate source and it being that personal for him to fight for over a decade in court and win the rights back to the story should clue you into just how incredible and life-changing a story it truly is.
It was long considered “a lost classic” (from 1997-2011) for a reason.
3:40 thank you! i had to explain this to a friend, they were already dumping the code in their Prestige Format, with titles that would go on to be Vertigo but as well stuff like Batman The Cult). I do miss this era in the 90s when it came fully online, i felt i came of age alongside the format.
The 80s and 90s Hellblazer was epic shit. Delano, Ennis etc was killer. The Delano issues are amazing.
Indeed.
The WildStorm Eye of the Storm imprint was kinda connected to Vertigo for the mature reader’s suggestion. Astro City & Tom Strong were the only 2 Vertigo comics that aren’t 17+ which they are Teen+.
Ever since I completed Y: The Last Man, I come back and read it every year and it always blows me away. Truly a classic.
RIP Vertigo
Good analysis, and you were right, Vertigo disappeared.
Thanks to Black Label
Vertigo and EC are the undisputed greatest lines in comics history
Fair point
Yeah but Sandman Universe is coming out this year! All new stuff!
Two years ago?
@@goofybutserious4807 lol. Yup.
Sandman presents hellblazers so gay
"Why these titles didn't find an audience"? How about the audience got fatigued left and didn't know about these new titles at all.
Only with your coverage did I just now learn of them.
Vertigo has some good stories still, such as American Carnage, Scalped, Sweet Tooth, and American Vampire. But I agree with you, Vertigo's a shadow of what it once was and I wish the executives at DC would realize that Vertigo needs to go...as painful as it is for me to admit that.
May your wish come true. ;)
Why so extreme how about just making better comics?
DC Black Label was its successor and that turned out to be an even bigger dumpsterfire than then-modern day Vertigo.
Maybe if they never hired morons like [A*** K*****] and [Developer of Depression Quest & Talker Into S**cide of their Ex] and focused on creator-owned stories more than trying to make more adaptable DC Comics stories (huge failures on their part as of The New 52 to Now)…then DC wouldn’t have had to shut them down. Saying it needed to be put down is like saying that it’s impossible for anything to turn itself around and is so unbelievably cynical, it makes one wonder how sad the person saying that is on the inside.
Then again, Image is in the gutter lately (2016-Now), so you’re not wrong. Sort of.
Mr. “My Goal is to get all Old White Men Out of Comics” (see above names for a clue) is the reason for Vertigo’s inevitable closure and failure to turn itself around. His MO, like those of his ilk, is to spread the gospel of ignorance towards any sort of history while astroturfing the present as though History itself was worse than it actually was. Which is to say that DC hired Big Brother to redact and censor their books as an Editor while claiming were still at war with Eastasia…but in time, these grifters and Bad Actors will get their comeuppance and the exclusion from the very things they wanted to destroy; when they scream and cry for forgiveness…
We’ll whisper, practically mouthing, a single phrase:
“No”
Preacher too
@@МихаилЧетвериков-л8ж Almost done reading Preacher, great series. I also like Garth Ennis’s work on The Punisher when he moved to Marvel.
There was a time when I was engrossed deeply in the pages of The Sandman, Flex Mentallo, and The Invisibles that I was barely ever buying a comic that didn't have the Vertigo Comics imprint on the cover. Now I can't remember the last time I bought a Vertigo comic. I know they are getting desperate to the point where they are releasing a comic book with Jesus in it that's getting people to protest it's printing. But it seems like they made it not to tell a compelling story but to gain attention through the shock factor. If it works I expect a graphic novel about Allah in New York coming out before the end of the year.
I agree
RIP vertigo
Rip Vertigo
Dude, you do so well at these. I would like to hear you revoice this one though, the sound is pretty off.
Yeah...the earlier stuff makes me cringe nowadays. At least once every few months I seriously consider pulling all the stuff that's older than a few years. No joke.
I would say DMZ and iZombie also connected with an audience, not only Fables and Y.
Also, it's funny that DC is bringing back Vertigo. They have so many imprints right now that it's crazy. Milestone, Wildstorm, Hannah Barbera, Zoom, Ink, New Age of Heroes, Black Label, Young Animal (definitely the best one!)... Stuff from Vertigo keeps getting reprinted in Image (Aaron's The Other Side), and one of their most popular series in the recent years is on hiatus (American Vampire).
I would love to see a video in which you discuss other failed old DC imprints like Helix, All-Star, Impact Comics... I love listening to you explain stuff!
iZombie's final season is coming next year as well as Y is getting a show on FX which I know will kick ass! I really like the new Shade comics as well and I wish it went on longer but with Young Animal being killed off, it'll probably never happen.
Update:
RIP Vertigo
@@nikomiller ye its sad they killed it. But vertigo was just where dc dumped all their r rated and graphic stuff. They are replacing it with the new
dc black label tho.
Vertigo and Elseworlds basically merged into *DC Black Label* doing the same thing with Horror stories and Elseworlds stories
The first Vertigo comic I read was Northlanders Sven The Returned I fell in love with the series
damn rip vertigo, i loved the hellblazer comics because in my opinion john constantine is a great DC character in general. im somewhat happy that netflix is implementing different vertigo comics as shows like lucifer and sandman coming out next year.
yes dc did decide to shut it down and just replace it with the dc black label.
Also the DC Horror, Hill House (Black Label imprint) & the Young Animal (probably merged with Black Label & Vertigo) 17+ imprints.
Dang it where do I know that intro music from? Also nice video. Vertigo is so cool. Think I could be happy hunting and reading them for the rest of my life
Fables was one of the first comics i got rly into.. from there i read a bunch of other great vertigo titles.. Y.. american vampire .. scalped.. i think i agree with ..image kinda being there downfall to some degree.. but vertigo got me into comics.. so ill stand by them .. there dropping some new books in august..
Vertigo's new head is the final nail
Well unfortunately, you were right. As DC disolved it becoming DC Black Label. But rather than serving as Vertigo's successor, it also serves as an predecessor of DC's Elseworld. Basically becoming DC'S answer to Marvel MAX. when it was still relevant
vertigo should have their own version of superman etc
@@jmgonzales7701 if only circumstances were different
@@jaredgarcia8638 such as? i think its a good opportunity to add some mainline DC heroes to vertigo(i know its defunct) they really had something going on with vertigo.
@@jmgonzales7701 you know you're right. But speaking in hypothetically, how would portray a Vertigo Superman?
@@jaredgarcia8638 something different, more mythical and probably realistic and more deconstructionist, thou they should avoid the evil route. I personally liked the joker movie since it was unique and basically a made up lore about an existing character, they can do that for Vertigo possibly for movies and books.
The only vertigo comic series I read was the first 7 issues of Preacher, it was crazy and really good
What about Preacher? Scalped?
Jonah Hex- 2 Gun Mojo was badass
Thank God (and Satan) for the Vertigo. Many of my favourite comics come from this imprint.
Well welcome
I heard from somewhere that something that could save Vertigo is "American Vampire". Scott Snyder never gave it a real conclusion and he's might come back to it later this year. With his return to "American Vampire" there's going to be a relaunch with new titles.
What do you know? You were right, it ended 2 years after this video was published
Good video. Subbed!
Dude I'm lovin your content
Thank you, sir. I'm glad you enjoy it.
You are not free to say: "I told you so." You were right.
Its sad but we all saw it coming.
Hey im trying to put together all of the on the ledge checklist pages from the first 10 years but there is some missing, can anyone help me find sources on the internet?
Muktuk Wolfsbreath, Hard boiled Shaman, was an amazing title when Terry Laban did the art & story. Original, funny, and lively. The artist in the Vertigo series was more realistic, and it lost some of Terry’s humor. But it was still a decent book. It should be re-examined along with the original run.
Cool😊
So what are your thoughts on the Young Animal and upcoming Dark Matter imprints?
So far, I've not tried out any of the titles, so I don't really have an opinion. Cave Carson and Shade look interesting, but I've yet to try them out. Any title stand out to you that I should read?
The only title i read, and i liked it a lot, was the new Doom Patrol. I think it's supposed to serve as an introduction to the whole line/universe and what you can expect going in. All the old characters show up, like Robot man and Flex Mentallo, but the protagonist is a new audience-perspective character. There are also sneak peaks of the other titles like Shade here and there.
Thank you! I appreciate the suggestion. I will add that to my reading list.
Surprised you didn’t mention Daytripper
Nice content ,keep it up......Whats the name of the song at 8:10,thanks in advance
Once In A Lifetime by Talking Heads
Well geuss what.....
Sandman is sort in the dc comic univuse
Preacher maybe not
Fables maybe not
All of them are DC properties and characters so yes they are in DC.
👍
👍
This and both of two series is over
Sandman är inte succse Sandman Universe kanske 🤔
8:13 screw that i'm not gonna any superhero comics in my comic book company there a bad influence on people kay cause i don't like superheroes in general. p.s there the worst.
I want writer for vertigo
Fuck sjw
marvel>DC. Toba Hulk solos the whole DC universe incl supermans strongest form.
Unwritten Leviathan >Marvel
Marvel better at movies. DC much better in animation series, comics & crossover series
Vertigo wow this is great before sjw
In order to live it is going to have to die. then we will get some real Vertigo again. the stuff for 2018-2019 is the most blaring identity stuff ever. YIKES.
Sorry, I simply do not subscribe to the "over written" comics B.S.narrative I've been hearing far too often! I think the real problem is we're dealing with a generation raised on reading sparsely written manga, which has produced too many LAZY readers! Readers who are also notoriously BAD spellers! Too bad, I was enjoying the video until you made that comment!
1) Why do you exclaim literally everything you say
2) You don't read manga, do you?
@@laststrike4411 I read Manga before it was widely available in the U.S. through CATALAN and the English translation of Nakazawa's autobio-- both were difficult to find! As for the overuse of exclamation points, I plead guilty. I've LOVED comics ever since I first discovered them; ALL sorts of comics, not just Manga.
ADDENDUM
After having said all of the above, I will admit one thing: I can't stand "dry" prose in ANY format! If I don't find the writer's work interesting, especially the prose-- CLUNK! It goes straight into the donation box or the trash bin!