Bridgette is absolutely gorgeous. Cindy Crawford..used to talk about her being one of the Bigger models on the Runways with all the stringbean "waifs" that looked like dudes.
I picked up on them trying to make her always look like a huge foodie, but then I always thought “wow, she looks great for someone who eats all the time” 😂 so I wondered what her workout plan was. You bet I bought the workout dvd 😂❤
The whole fat shaming of Bridget was totally ridiculous! We can all clearly see Bridget isn’t fat, if anything it made her look more relatable and likeable. I mean who tf doesn’t like food?! 😂
And the age shaming it was so unreal… also haha I don’t think anything about the girls lives at that mansion is relatable lol but I totally get what you are saying!!
It was irritating and unfair the way Bridget was constantly edited as "chubby-always-eating", while her figure type was the natural hourglass Playboy's empire was built on!
Right!? She's a literal natural beauty! All due respect to those who get plastic surgery, no judgement at all. I understand why someone might want to alter their appearance. There are some things I would personally like to have done too. I just find it crazy that her actual body type is the Playboy standard but she was still fat shamed?
No she was probably being mean to Holly cus Holly was the girlfriend . But Holly was known to LOVE him so it’s different if we’d of known she didn’t . Maybe Pam would have been nicer . Cus Holly was “up tight.” She was known as the jealous girlfriend . House MOM kinda thing.
@@mikegarcia597I was thinking Pam was returning Hollys energy. Holly all the sudden feels like she’s untitled to victims from outta the Blue after years of saying she loved Her man. It’s confusing. Maybe Pam knew she was lying the whole time .
Ohhh Bridget! 😢looking at your face talking about the situation at 31:00 please know they may have been trying to portray you that way but the people who loved your spirit never seen that! Always beyond beautiful! 😍 ❤
I totally get what Holly is saying about how you perceive peoples reactions to you when you’re young. It definitely gets easier to navigate with both age & perspective.
The difference is Males are used to taking the brunt of public opinion and just deflecting it. The most notable ones like Prince Harry, Russel Brand, Trump, Andy Cohen. As much as people hate these guys. You’ll likely never hear them complain of any hate or negative press they receive
That’s because men are used to being the punching bad. You will never hear Prince Harry, Trump, Elon etc Voice about the countless hate thrown their way. While in Hollys case, people like Kendra, Jayde Nicole, and even Aubrey O Day have had different encounters with her, that have validated some of the caddy behavior
That’s because men don’t care enough to speak on the outpouring of hate that comes their way. Meanwhile people like Kendra, Jayde, and even Aubrey O day have validated some of Hollys side behavior
I recently saw an episode of The Drew Barrymore Show with Pamela as a guest. She mentions to Drew how shy and introverted she really is. Then when you see her trying to interact with another guest during the cooking segment she was so shy and awkward that it was hard to watch. She's such a lovely lady but I felt for her.
She didn't look that shy on the episode in Vegas where she came out butt naked in front of a room full of people for hefs birthday lol... You can be shy and not ignore people's existence.
Yeah I saw that segment. Noticed that too. And she talked about trying so hard to push herself out of her comfort zone and not be shy that she started to forget who she was.
But I think she was able to be really friendly and confident with Hef, but not with the girls? It was the same girls for years, don’t think being shy would stop her saying hi to them?
i wonder if she just really cared about hef and maybe thought he was being used? and then towards the end saw that you were in it for the long haul and lightened up a bit? or maybe she just saw how many girls he went through and was like, why bother? from the interviews i've seen her do, she really does feel like the playboy brand and hef specifically were the reason for her career. i think she had a lot of loyalty to him and was probably overly protective. idk i love her and you guys obviously have a right to feel that way if someone's being standoffish w you so no shade at alll!
Also, Holly is SO under- utilized by Hef, she clearly wanted to earn her keep and really be a full fledged partner to Hef in life and business. I relate to her so much due to this, but luckily I have a husband that sees that as the "diamond in the rough" trait it is- Holly was the key to keeping Playboy alive after Hef's death- he just never saw it
I think these past few years have really shown everyone that no one should be put so high on a pedestal that they can't survive a fall off of it. Also, we need to give each other space to have their own experiences with people. Some people you just don't gel with and there isn't always a reason why, and that's something I've struggled with.
The paper cutter! I love those things. In 2021 I was still using one at work. It was pretty advanced compared to the ones from the 00s. Nowadays, at home I use a paper cutter that has a sliding slicer on it, it's so useful
Bridget, I was talking to my vet about my own dog's diet because she had breast cancer and she was having trouble eating. My vet was saying that those ir dryed foods, even though they have heathy ingredients, can cause a lot of gastric issues. She said people are constantly bringing dogs in to her office with gas or pain or loose stools and it's often these foods that are the culprit. Just FYI. If your dog is okay that's great. I just wanted to share in case anybody is considering an air dryed food.
I love to watch you guys like this, super natural. I feel like you guys are here, at my kitchen and we're drinking tea and talking. You too are SOOO lovely! 💜
Holly. You shouldnt feel guilt telling her true experience and findings with people you've met. I sympthasize. Its your truth and facts are this of the past...it happened. Good energy to you! There will always be nasty people with unnecessary opinions but appreciate you and Bridget's honestly. ❤ And Im a mega Pam fan. But its your truth. And we do romanticize people a bit too much.
They always did Bridget dirty and I think it was because she was older and natural- she is by far the MOST positive and pleasant celebrity I have ever seen - she is always optimistic, sweet and selfless - she gives 110% on everything she does - she deserves so much better in editing - and Hef should have never let that crap happen - he had final say on the footage - that's the worst part!
Does anyone know if Joe (PB security) and Hank (PB mansion maintenance) are still with us? If they are, it would be awesome if they came on the podcast.
Joe Piastro died in March 2011. Hank Fawcett, to the best of my belief, is still alive. Brian Olea stated on podcast for Victoria Fuller's Rogue Bunnies that aired in spring 2023 that was made in Holmby Hills Park near the mansion during the reunion that Hank was in attendance, but he did not speak or participate in the episode. I have not heard any more info about him since then. If he has died, Brian, Victoria, and others who were Mansion regulars or employees would have announced on social media. So far, I have not seen any announcements or tributes, which makes me believe that he is alive.
This is your narrative. You're allowed to say what you personally observed, felt, and feel now. It's not a slight against anyone, it's context folks not in the thick of it may not know. It's not shade, it's just life. I'm sorry folks continue to give you grief for just saying what you were thinking or feeling at the time.
I'm a socially awkward person and have a difficult time making eye contact. I always engage so much better with those I know more than those I don't. Maybe Pamela was acting the same way. She was comfortable with Hef because she knew him for years and didn't know how to engage with the girls.
Great pod cast! I love then Holly opens up how she feels! Ladies the back ground does need to be adjusted Bridget side and holly side in the back seems off.. maybe add more flowers or decoration?
That’s so wild people thought holly was powerful? I got the vibe she was completely powerless. Like at least Kendra could wear jeans or laugh. Holly didn’t even seem empowered to do that lol
To me Bridget was in my opinion the hottest one of the three of them . That doesn’t mean i didn’t think Holly & Kendra weren’t beautiful I just mean Bridget is extremely STUNNING !
I remember seeing somewhere that Pam was always ❄️ coke-a colad out when at the mansion and around heff! Maybe she was just high! I don’t no if that’s true! It would be so cool to interview her now! Love you guys 💕
A make-up artist visited my school back in the 90s. He'd worked on Baywatch and so we were all so exited to ask him about working with Pamela. He said she was deeply unpleasant. And he had to do her body makeup! I wasn't all that surprised, tbh. I think fame had probably made her cynical and guarded with people, like you said. Also, I don't imagine she enjoyed being around all that competition! 😄
I think that's part of it. It has to be. But I think someone in the comments said Pam has admitted to being very shy and introverted. She's also had some major traumas and that definitely impacts on your ability to connect with people. ❤️
She definitely looked like the Hollywood ideal, but she was also just a small town girl from Canada trying to make it in the industry. Inside I'm sure she was insecure. Now with her no makeup look, I think she's still fighting that shyness, just in a different way. She's going for full self-acceptance.
Holly, say what you want whenever you want. This is your platform that you and Bridget built from the ground up. People are opinion sensitive on social media anyway, train yourself not to give an eff. You've earned your right to say how you feel and you do so eloquently. In your book you say how you became quiet and lost your personality because you were trying to please others when living at the mansion. Please don't let that happen again. Be you and be loud lol ❤
Bridget im loving the outfit! Plus you are not fat and never was, people would die to look like you and Holly you was a complete natural at doing those photoshoots xxx
I have tried to find a damn paper cutter guillotine thing that i know my [now deceased] dad had, and my mom acts like i am describing some sort of rocket science when i describe what i am looking for 😂
Bridget you were never fat. I’m so sorry they made you feel that way. Even watching the show back then, I never saw you as the“fat girl” you’re absolutely stunning inside and out. Always have been always will be. Love you beautiful
It also kinda bothered me in the episode how Pam kissed Hef on the mouth (right in front of you girls). On one hand I understand, but also it stuck out to me… P.S. Pam’s book “Love, Pam” is super well written and a good read if anyone is looking for a book recommendation lol ❤
Bridget gets mad they refer to her as the food obsessed but she really does talk passionately about food on the podcast lol she just mentioned the Mac and Cheese at Bliss made my mouth water
The fopo part in the beginning made me think of the elvira/ariana grande post that happened recently that I saw bridget like on ig. Fair enough to be cautious because people can blindly defend their faves and be weird about it
It’s so shocking to hear what was going on behind the scenes and what you felt the perception was. I was always just wanting to see how pretty and fun everything seemed. I never thought any of the negative things you girls bring up. Now I see how things are differently being older and more mature (46) ❤❤❤
Im ashamed bc i remember when watching it 20 years ago, i did think bridget was a little bigger bc the show made me think that. So sorry bridgett!! i feel manipulated to the core.
Brittany Furlan-Lee, Tommy Lee's wife says when they are out together women will actually push her out of the way to get to Tommy...no acknowledgement, zero respect. That behavior is weird. Like an entitlement or something? That sucks! I hate to hear that about Pam. BRIDGET!!! You aren't, you weren't, you've NEVER BEEN A FAT GIRL!?! I'm so sorry they put that BS into your mind! Love you girls! ❤️✨
16:08 If/when you get Molly the Editor back on the show, ask her about that! She literally got the same comment..."wow, you make Holly look so competent!" And Molly said, "um, because she IS!"
I totally understand the whole when someone “ignores your presence”. I guess maybe their loyalty belongs to the ex wife. But still have manners and greet people. Don’t have to be super friends. That’s my biggest pet peeve.
im almost done hollys book, i read it every night, the tea is piping hot and i wish i didnt buy that mean girls book but i already purchased it and theres no going back lol but my friend is interested in reading the books after im done with them, so i will be passing your book to my friend, Holly
The pam Anderson thing I have red articles where she said hef protected her a lot during her early career. So I think it's her feel very close and protected by him
I don’t think Pam meant any intentional disrespect. She is just thankful for Hef. It’s like seeing an old friend (literally) and running and giving a big hug. And she probably couldn’t keep up with all the girlfriends names…just kidding.
You know i remember when the girls next door was on and in one episode Pamela Anderson was on and i felt like she was kind of rude to the girls, especially Holly. I was shocked because i always thought Pamela was so sweet.
Always loved you guys scrapbook. The guillotine ones do take up so much room. Made me mad in the last season, they acted like the new girls were the only ones that scrapbooked.
Omg!!! I agree with you girls… you should acknowledge that there’s a significant other at least a smile it’s about respect.. this has happened to my husband and I where the girl didn’t even look at me but she’s having a full on conversation with my husband I’m like how rude!!!!
I know y'all had ok experiences with Marilyn Grabowski but she clearly set up women to be raped at those playboy parties. At least that's the was the Secrets of Playboy series showed. Let's not worry about Marilyn's feelings too much.
Amen, was it one of the secretaries that also was a playmate didn’t want to be left there!!! (At parties) I can’t recall her name but she said she was leaving when Marilyn left. She didn’t want to stick around 😮
@@ashsweetjonesThat was Alison Reynolds, who appeared with husband Joel in various episodes of GND, who told that anecdote. The incident did not occur at the mansion; it was at the home of Bernie Cornfeld, who was a Hef wannabe, who took advantage of most of the 1990s when Kimberley Conrad demanded Hef change the tone and atmosphere of the Mansion parties. Bernie and numerous other Hef wannabes converted their homes into "shadow" or "mini" mansions to host drug-fueled parties to ensnare young women aspiring to be models who would have otherwise attended Mansion parties if Hef had not obeyed Kimberley's demands.
@@ashsweetjones and now that I think about it, wasn't Mary O'Connor complicit too? She definitely facilitated these all of that abuse. She knew what was going on, she did nothing, and she even helped get Hef quaaludes. IMO, that's just as bad. And for anyone who says "well, she's just doing her job!" that means her job involved facilitating abuse and sexual assault. She made that choice over and over. This isn't about being a "girl's girl", she's complicit in decades worth of felonies.
Girls, I'm so very sorry for the words and actions of people to make you feel the way you do sometimes. I completely get it and I want you to know I've always thought you both were amazing!!! Fan of 18 years over here! PS. Paper cutters make life soooo much easier!
I knew I wasn’t crazy I’m like she’s very out there and weired and it’s like no one else is around but her. Pamala also acted very entitled or almost like she was trying to prove something so weired lol
I think one of the things to highlight which you ladies do, is that these are memories and occurrences that happened many years ago, and like you have grown and had perspective changes, it is likely that many you speak of from the past may have too. I think sometimes folks may forget that. Not defending anyone, just something that occurred to me. Also some of the narratives the network tried to push were ridiculous.
Pam is the sweetest …. met her in Cannes … briefly, however, she was at the time, a very judged by the world woman …… so famous yet so humble, exposed by the first internet sex tape… I was nervous and a little tipsy in Cannes and I was talking and laughing like an idiot hyena … yet she smiled, was SO kind, pretended to listen to me, who’s nobody, and I’ll never forget she said ‘bye it was great to meet you !’ ….. not discounting you ladies experiences , she should come talk to you two…… I’m sure there was a reason. Maybe hef told her not to engage with you girls … I dunno , but I’d love to. You girls are so compelling in this podcast …. Thanks for the entertainment 😊
Greetings Holly and Bridget! ❤️❤️ I’m a huge longtime fan of “The Girls Next Door,” and your even more incredible podcast!!! I’m super curious, but will you guys also do commentary on “Holly’s World?” (E! Network). I was also a super fan of that show and was totally heartbroken to not receive a 3rd season. What happened? Can you guys pleeeeeeease do a podcast on it? 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕
Yes Playboy power! Girl power! I alway cheered for both of ya, In fact part it was probably one of my favorite times in my life! I agree I like this show! Thanks for all the entertainment pure class!
It often bothered me when they fat shamed Bridget because she was NOT fat at all. Bridget was SLIM. I’m sure it was the sign of the times because the late 90s-early 2000s was the age of the “super skinny girl” (size 0 or 00), and a US size 6 was considered “overweight”. I always wonder if it was a personal attack on Bridget by Kevin Burns, which is why she seemed to be edited poorly. Even in an interview that he did before he died, he really had an ax to grind about Bridget, including making accusations about her alleged behind-the-scenes behavior.
Bridget I think “correlation is not causation” is something you really need to consider is the competition was always supposed to be for control for sure! But I think the eating and #1 that is actually a very common fetish which is a darker possibility #2 I also think it was too be the bourgeois hero (where bougie comes from) which is that you were the normal girl who was just meant to be at the mansion, not necessarily a bunny or model. You were the aspirational girl where they could point to you both not being competitive and just wanting a belonging/community so it was a built in defence for criticism to the brand.
That the eating was just to show that no matter where you were or what you ate, worked out or didn’t, wore or didn’t that you were always what the playboy ideal always was basically. You were essentially the female version of a playboy, the all American girl next door who owned her own independence and beauty.
You should have Ally Carter on ! She says she was at the mansion and they showed a movie called Pig Night. Doesn't sound like it was a great time for her when she was there. She'd be a good guest!!
Well done for Holly for mentioning the Pamela thing because everyone does obsess over her and I feel like she isn’t a very nice girl in someways. I always preferred Bobby Brown and her book is so more honest but people really like Pam connect with the relationship with Tommy he was with bobbie for 18 months and then just gets with Pam and Pat was introduced, by Bobby Bobbie
Marilyn being like that has to be a Boomer thing. Forever ago, I had my first day as a cashier at Panera, and I was told that the position has opened up because this older lady got promoted to Catering. She would've been Marilyn's she or close to it. Obviously I thought that was awesome, so whenever we met, I was like hi, I'm taking over your old position, AND OMG WAS SHE HORRIBLE TO ME EVER SINCE. Horrible! I actually almost committed s because of her bullying me. It was so bad. I honestly wish I had quit, because that would've shown me that I cared about myself and made my depression easier to bear. But it was bad the entire time. She got what she wanted in the end, which was to get promoted to management. She eventually transferred. IDK how I got through all of that at work (there was more bullying from these two cashiers), because I was also dealing with abuse at home from family. My life was a dumpster fire 😂 I can laugh now because I'm finally on an anti depressant that works. Maybe I'll still have a little revenge on everyone later on, IDK. Nothing serious, just fun to think about. Like f y'all, I'm living in Santorini or whatever, and everyone gets a beautiful picture of me happy with where I'm living very obvious in the background 🙏
I never thought of Bridget as the "fat girl", but the all-natural girl...so pretty and natural.
I was just thinking this to myself. What a natural beauty xox
Exactly she's so relatable No surgery needed
Bridgette is absolutely gorgeous. Cindy Crawford..used to talk about her being one of the Bigger models on the Runways with all the stringbean "waifs" that looked like dudes.
I picked up on them trying to make her always look like a huge foodie, but then I always thought “wow, she looks great for someone who eats all the time” 😂 so I wondered what her workout plan was. You bet I bought the workout dvd 😂❤
Both so beautiful!❤
The whole fat shaming of Bridget was totally ridiculous! We can all clearly see Bridget isn’t fat, if anything it made her look more relatable and likeable. I mean who tf doesn’t like food?! 😂
I think it made her more relatable too
And the age shaming it was so unreal… also haha I don’t think anything about the girls lives at that mansion is relatable lol but I totally get what you are saying!!
It was irritating and unfair the way Bridget was constantly edited as "chubby-always-eating", while her figure type was the natural hourglass Playboy's empire was built on!
Right!? She's a literal natural beauty! All due respect to those who get plastic surgery, no judgement at all. I understand why someone might want to alter their appearance. There are some things I would personally like to have done too. I just find it crazy that her actual body type is the Playboy standard but she was still fat shamed?
Bridget is a doll idk why they did that she had/has a beautiful shape. Love her she's so sweet❤
Holly was awesome at pictorials. I really think she has a great talent and a great eye for that line of work.
Please interview Pam! I think she'd have a reasonable explanation! And selfishly id love to see all 3 of you interact!
Pam wouldn’t do it lol
@@mikegarcia597I think Pam and Jayde would be the hardest to get on the podcast.
Pam’s way too Loyal and credits Hef for everything so I doubt she’d ever be apart of anything if they even talk about him at all
No she was probably being mean to Holly cus Holly was the girlfriend . But Holly was known to LOVE him so it’s different if we’d of known she didn’t . Maybe Pam would have been nicer . Cus Holly was “up tight.” She was known as the jealous girlfriend . House MOM kinda thing.
@@mikegarcia597I was thinking Pam was returning Hollys energy. Holly all the sudden feels like she’s untitled to victims from outta the Blue after years of saying she loved Her man. It’s confusing. Maybe Pam knew she was lying the whole time .
Ohhh Bridget! 😢looking at your face talking about the situation at 31:00 please know they may have been trying to portray you that way but the people who loved your spirit never seen that! Always beyond beautiful! 😍 ❤
I totally get what Holly is saying about how you perceive peoples reactions to you when you’re young. It definitely gets easier to navigate with both age & perspective.
Side note- in the UK, we call paper cutters ‘guillotines.’ I feel like you guys would appreciate the French Revolution reference haha
In the US, I only ever heard them called guillotines. I didn’t know people just called them paper cutters 😂
That's hilarious
@Champagne_Silk Where are you from? I've never heard that here in Texas
@@katia_g213 I’m from the Pacific Northwest but I also heard it called that when I was living in Georgia. I didn’t know people didn’t call it that 😂
I love that holly mentioned the double standard in being candid in writing with male authors vs female authors
The difference is Males are used to taking the brunt of public opinion and just deflecting it. The most notable ones like Prince Harry, Russel Brand, Trump, Andy Cohen. As much as people hate these guys. You’ll likely never hear them complain of any hate or negative press they receive
That’s because men are used to being the punching bad. You will never hear Prince Harry, Trump, Elon etc Voice about the countless hate thrown their way. While in Hollys case, people like Kendra, Jayde Nicole, and even Aubrey O Day have had different encounters with her, that have validated some of the caddy behavior
That’s because men don’t care enough to speak on the outpouring of hate that comes their way. Meanwhile people like Kendra, Jayde, and even Aubrey O day have validated some of Hollys side behavior
I look forward to this podcast so much! I could listen to you two tell stories all day
I recently saw an episode of The Drew Barrymore Show with Pamela as a guest. She mentions to Drew how shy and introverted she really is. Then when you see her trying to interact with another guest during the cooking segment she was so shy and awkward that it was hard to watch. She's such a lovely lady but I felt for her.
She didn't look that shy on the episode in Vegas where she came out butt naked in front of a room full of people for hefs birthday lol... You can be shy and not ignore people's existence.
Yeah I saw that segment. Noticed that too. And she talked about trying so hard to push herself out of her comfort zone and not be shy that she started to forget who she was.
Trauma will do that to a perspn
Shyness can really make people look mean
But I think she was able to be really friendly and confident with Hef, but not with the girls? It was the same girls for years, don’t think being shy would stop her saying hi to them?
i wonder if she just really cared about hef and maybe thought he was being used? and then towards the end saw that you were in it for the long haul and lightened up a bit? or maybe she just saw how many girls he went through and was like, why bother? from the interviews i've seen her do, she really does feel like the playboy brand and hef specifically were the reason for her career. i think she had a lot of loyalty to him and was probably overly protective. idk i love her and you guys obviously have a right to feel that way if someone's being standoffish w you so no shade at alll!
Red is such a beautiful color on you Bridget! Loving that sweater
You should have an og playmate Shannon Tweed!! Curious to see how the mansion was back in her time
Are Shannon and Gene Simmons still together?
Also, Holly is SO under- utilized by Hef, she clearly wanted to earn her keep and really be a full fledged partner to Hef in life and business. I relate to her so much due to this, but luckily I have a husband that sees that as the "diamond in the rough" trait it is- Holly was the key to keeping Playboy alive after Hef's death- he just never saw it
I think these past few years have really shown everyone that no one should be put so high on a pedestal that they can't survive a fall off of it. Also, we need to give each other space to have their own experiences with people. Some people you just don't gel with and there isn't always a reason why, and that's something I've struggled with.
Maybe Pam was very protective of Hef and thought all his gfs were taking advantage of him (even if you, specifically, weren’t like that). 🤷🏻♂️
Huf probably never wanted you ladies to be recognized for your own talents and personalities
Not sure if it was a Typo or not but I like Huf as a nickname for him. Sounds like he was prone to them.
Holly would have kept the Playboy legacy alive longer
She would have launched that company out of the dark ages. Hef messed up big time 😅
In Australia we call the paper cutter a guillotine 😄
And we still use it at my work for a clean, sharp cut line 💜
The paper cutter! I love those things. In 2021 I was still using one at work. It was pretty advanced compared to the ones from the 00s. Nowadays, at home I use a paper cutter that has a sliding slicer on it, it's so useful
I want one!!
Bridget, I was talking to my vet about my own dog's diet because she had breast cancer and she was having trouble eating. My vet was saying that those ir dryed foods, even though they have heathy ingredients, can cause a lot of gastric issues. She said people are constantly bringing dogs in to her office with gas or pain or loose stools and it's often these foods that are the culprit. Just FYI. If your dog is okay that's great. I just wanted to share in case anybody is considering an air dryed food.
Oh no! I was about to go on the website and check it out. Thanks for sharing.
I love to watch you guys like this, super natural. I feel like you guys are here, at my kitchen and we're drinking tea and talking. You too are SOOO lovely! 💜
Holly. You shouldnt feel guilt telling her true experience and findings with people you've met. I sympthasize. Its your truth and facts are this of the past...it happened. Good energy to you! There will always be nasty people with unnecessary opinions but appreciate you and Bridget's honestly. ❤
And Im a mega Pam fan. But its your truth. And we do romanticize people a bit too much.
They always did Bridget dirty and I think it was because she was older and natural- she is by far the MOST positive and pleasant celebrity I have ever seen - she is always optimistic, sweet and selfless - she gives 110% on everything she does - she deserves so much better in editing - and Hef should have never let that crap happen - he had final say on the footage - that's the worst part!
Does anyone know if Joe (PB security) and Hank (PB mansion maintenance) are still with us? If they are, it would be awesome if they came on the podcast.
I have wondered the same thing!!!
Joe Piastro died in March 2011.
Hank Fawcett, to the best of my belief, is still alive. Brian Olea stated on podcast for Victoria Fuller's Rogue Bunnies that aired in spring 2023 that was made in Holmby Hills Park near the mansion during the reunion that Hank was in attendance, but he did not speak or participate in the episode. I have not heard any more info about him since then. If he has died, Brian, Victoria, and others who were Mansion regulars or employees would have announced on social media. So far, I have not seen any announcements or tributes, which makes me believe that he is alive.
@@bayou432 Thank you!
The soft lighting and sound is great in your podcast
This is your narrative. You're allowed to say what you personally observed, felt, and feel now. It's not a slight against anyone, it's context folks not in the thick of it may not know. It's not shade, it's just life. I'm sorry folks continue to give you grief for just saying what you were thinking or feeling at the time.
The real fans love you both for always sharing!! Makes us feel more normal when we hear real stories!!! ❤🎉
Bridget and Holly you are both beautiful inside and out! It makes me sad that you were both made to feel bad about yourselves.
Omg you saw Hole live? They never played near me 😣
I'm a socially awkward person and have a difficult time making eye contact. I always engage so much better with those I know more than those I don't. Maybe Pamela was acting the same way. She was comfortable with Hef because she knew him for years and didn't know how to engage with the girls.
Thank you for leaving that in for just us UA-cam subscribers I loved the videos and your girls honest opinion! 💗
Great pod cast! I love then Holly opens up how she feels! Ladies the back ground does need to be adjusted Bridget side and holly side in the back seems off.. maybe add more flowers or decoration?
That’s so wild people thought holly was powerful? I got the vibe she was completely powerless. Like at least Kendra could wear jeans or laugh. Holly didn’t even seem empowered to do that lol
To me Bridget was in my opinion the hottest one of the three of them . That doesn’t mean i didn’t think Holly & Kendra weren’t beautiful I just mean Bridget is extremely STUNNING !
I never thought Brigette was fat. I thought I wish I had that body . She looked amazing
I remember seeing somewhere that Pam was always ❄️ coke-a colad out when at the mansion and around heff! Maybe she was just high! I don’t no if that’s true!
It would be so cool to interview her now! Love you guys 💕
Love you guys! Thank you for being honest about celebrities ❤
Omg!!!!!!! THE JUMP CUTS!!!!!! Love you ALWAYS!!! Ladies 🥰🥰🥰
I have paper cutter. They make them smaller now. Thank goodness 😂I couldn't store that giant one.
I love that holly loves Courtney love and hole🫶🫶
Hole's Malibu video came up in my feed the other day ❤
SAME!!!!!! I looove hole
She was one of the best concert I've ever seen. She is so raw on stage....and so simply Courtney.
Paper cutters are sooo satisfying haha I used to use one at my old job
A make-up artist visited my school back in the 90s. He'd worked on Baywatch and so we were all so exited to ask him about working with Pamela. He said she was deeply unpleasant. And he had to do her body makeup! I wasn't all that surprised, tbh.
I think fame had probably made her cynical and guarded with people, like you said. Also, I don't imagine she enjoyed being around all that competition! 😄
Fame and being gorgeous made her cynical. When ur a sex symbol you would think men just want to take advantage of you and women hate you
I think that's part of it. It has to be. But I think someone in the comments said Pam has admitted to being very shy and introverted. She's also had some major traumas and that definitely impacts on your ability to connect with people. ❤️
She definitely looked like the Hollywood ideal, but she was also just a small town girl from Canada trying to make it in the industry. Inside I'm sure she was insecure. Now with her no makeup look, I think she's still fighting that shyness, just in a different way. She's going for full self-acceptance.
You both are so amazing! 💕💕
24:00 Bridgett is soooo nice BUT I KNOW she stands on business 🤣👏💕
Holly, say what you want whenever you want. This is your platform that you and Bridget built from the ground up. People are opinion sensitive on social media anyway, train yourself not to give an eff. You've earned your right to say how you feel and you do so eloquently. In your book you say how you became quiet and lost your personality because you were trying to please others when living at the mansion. Please don't let that happen again. Be you and be loud lol ❤
I appreciate Holly’s honesty on her Pam experience
Loved this one! I wish you guys could get Courtney Love on, that would be unreal
I actually picked up on the Pam thing even when the show aired back in early 2000s
Bridget im loving the outfit! Plus you are not fat and never was, people would die to look like you and Holly you was a complete natural at doing those photoshoots xxx
I have tried to find a damn paper cutter guillotine thing that i know my [now deceased] dad had, and my mom acts like i am describing some sort of rocket science when i describe what i am looking for 😂
Bridget you were never fat. I’m so sorry they made you feel that way. Even watching the show back then, I never saw you as the“fat girl” you’re absolutely stunning inside and out. Always have been always will be. Love you beautiful
It also kinda bothered me in the episode how Pam kissed Hef on the mouth (right in front of you girls). On one hand I understand, but also it stuck out to me… P.S. Pam’s book “Love, Pam” is super well written and a good read if anyone is looking for a book recommendation lol ❤
Happy Halloween 🎃 week everyone ❤😊
Bridget gets mad they refer to her as the food obsessed but she really does talk passionately about food on the podcast lol she just mentioned the Mac and Cheese at Bliss made my mouth water
The fopo part in the beginning made me think of the elvira/ariana grande post that happened recently that I saw bridget like on ig. Fair enough to be cautious because people can blindly defend their faves and be weird about it
It’s so shocking to hear what was going on behind the scenes and what you felt the perception was. I was always just wanting to see how pretty and fun everything seemed. I never thought any of the negative things you girls bring up. Now I see how things are differently being older and more mature (46) ❤❤❤
Im ashamed bc i remember when watching it 20 years ago, i did think bridget was a little bigger bc the show made me think that. So sorry bridgett!! i feel manipulated to the core.
Brittany Furlan-Lee, Tommy Lee's wife says when they are out together women will actually push her out of the way to get to Tommy...no acknowledgement, zero respect. That behavior is weird. Like an entitlement or something?
That sucks! I hate to hear that about Pam.
BRIDGET!!! You aren't, you weren't, you've NEVER BEEN A FAT GIRL!?! I'm so sorry they put that BS into your mind! Love you girls! ❤️✨
That's some L.A. behavior. Try that in Texas 🤣 Both boots up your ass lmao
If you can't handle The Tea then don't watch ... I don't feel they are not being anything but completely honest... 💗💕💜 as in I believe them…
16:08 If/when you get Molly the Editor back on the show, ask her about that! She literally got the same comment..."wow, you make Holly look so competent!" And Molly said, "um, because she IS!"
I totally understand the whole when someone “ignores your presence”. I guess maybe their loyalty belongs to the ex wife. But still have manners and greet people. Don’t have to be super friends. That’s my biggest pet peeve.
im almost done hollys book, i read it every night, the tea is piping hot and i wish i didnt buy that mean girls book but i already purchased it and theres no going back lol but my friend is interested in reading the books after im done with them, so i will be passing your book to my friend, Holly
The pam Anderson thing I have red articles where she said hef protected her a lot during her early career. So I think it's her feel very close and protected by him
Yesss my favorite Monday stream
I don’t think Pam meant any intentional disrespect. She is just thankful for Hef. It’s like seeing an old friend (literally) and running and giving a big hug. And she probably couldn’t keep up with all the girlfriends names…just kidding.
31:08 I want to give Bridgett a hug 🫂 ❤ *virtual hug* Bridgett💕💕
You know i remember when the girls next door was on and in one episode Pamela Anderson was on and i felt like she was kind of rude to the girls, especially Holly. I was shocked because i always thought Pamela was so sweet.
You 3 were SUCH OG baddie/it girls I can’t believe you ever felt to prove yourselves 😭
Holly I’m actually shocked that hole was your favourite band in school would have never picked that . Hole was my favourite as well .
Oh make me over...🎶
I looove the eyebrows ,Bridget!! Holly beautiful as always!😊😊😊
And at 45 minutes. it is 100% because you’re a woman and not a man. Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they aren’t after you!😂❤
How are you girls looking younger & more beautiful as the years go by? 👍😲
I'm a Capricorn too Holly and I'm all about a list😂😂😂
Always loved you guys scrapbook. The guillotine ones do take up so much room. Made me mad in the last season, they acted like the new girls were the only ones that scrapbooked.
Made my week❤❤❤❤
Get Steve!!!!! I know he has some tea!
Bridget your beautiful inside and out 😊💕!!
🐇 Great video ladies 🐇
Please ask Steve to come on, was so fun to hear from Arnie!
I forget where, but I could swear Marilyn said that about Holly in an interview somewhere. I swear I heard her say that before.
Love you girls ❤
Omg!!! I agree with you girls… you should acknowledge that there’s a significant other at least a smile it’s about respect.. this has happened to my husband and I where the girl didn’t even look at me but she’s having a full on conversation with my husband I’m like how rude!!!!
I know y'all had ok experiences with Marilyn Grabowski but she clearly set up women to be raped at those playboy parties. At least that's the was the Secrets of Playboy series showed. Let's not worry about Marilyn's feelings too much.
Amen, was it one of the secretaries that also was a playmate didn’t want to be left there!!! (At parties) I can’t recall her name but she said she was leaving when Marilyn left. She didn’t want to stick around 😮
@@ashsweetjones YES! I can't remember her name either but that's exactly the episode/scene I was referencing.
@@ashsweetjonesThat was Alison Reynolds, who appeared with husband Joel in various episodes of GND, who told that anecdote. The incident did not occur at the mansion; it was at the home of Bernie Cornfeld, who was a Hef wannabe, who took advantage of most of the 1990s when Kimberley Conrad demanded Hef change the tone and atmosphere of the Mansion parties. Bernie and numerous other Hef wannabes converted their homes into "shadow" or "mini" mansions to host drug-fueled parties to ensnare young women aspiring to be models who would have otherwise attended Mansion parties if Hef had not obeyed Kimberley's demands.
@@ashsweetjones and now that I think about it, wasn't Mary O'Connor complicit too? She definitely facilitated these all of that abuse. She knew what was going on, she did nothing, and she even helped get Hef quaaludes. IMO, that's just as bad. And for anyone who says "well, she's just doing her job!" that means her job involved facilitating abuse and sexual assault. She made that choice over and over. This isn't about being a "girl's girl", she's complicit in decades worth of felonies.
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Girls, I'm so very sorry for the words and actions of people to make you feel the way you do sometimes. I completely get it and I want you to know I've always thought you both were amazing!!! Fan of 18 years over here!
PS. Paper cutters make life soooo much easier!
ugh I so h8 how the show painted Bridget as the overweight or fat one. NO. She is and was such a beautiful, natural woman.
Pamela was nasty when she came on the show. The way she would hang on Hef and be all gross with Holly sitting there made me wanna 🤮.
I knew I wasn’t crazy I’m like she’s very out there and weired and it’s like no one else is around but her. Pamala also acted very entitled or almost like she was trying to prove something so weired lol
I think one of the things to highlight which you ladies do, is that these are memories and occurrences that happened many years ago, and like you have grown and had perspective changes, it is likely that many you speak of from the past may have too. I think sometimes folks may forget that. Not defending anyone, just something that occurred to me. Also some of the narratives the network tried to push were ridiculous.
Pam is the sweetest …. met her in Cannes … briefly, however, she was at the time, a very judged by the world woman …… so famous yet so humble, exposed by the first internet sex tape… I was nervous and a little tipsy in Cannes and I was talking and laughing like an idiot hyena … yet she smiled, was SO kind, pretended to listen to me, who’s nobody, and I’ll never forget she said ‘bye it was great to meet you !’ ….. not discounting you ladies experiences , she should come talk to you two…… I’m sure there was a reason. Maybe hef told her not to engage with you girls … I dunno , but I’d love to. You girls are so compelling in this podcast …. Thanks for the entertainment 😊
Greetings Holly and Bridget! ❤️❤️
I’m a huge longtime fan of “The Girls Next Door,” and your even more incredible podcast!!! I’m super curious, but will you guys also do commentary on “Holly’s World?” (E! Network). I was also a super fan of that show and was totally heartbroken to not receive a 3rd season. What happened? Can you guys pleeeeeeease do a podcast on it? 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕
Yes Playboy power! Girl power! I alway cheered for both of ya, In fact part it was probably one of my favorite times in my life! I agree I like this show! Thanks for all the entertainment pure class!
It often bothered me when they fat shamed Bridget because she was NOT fat at all. Bridget was SLIM. I’m sure it was the sign of the times because the late 90s-early 2000s was the age of the “super skinny girl” (size 0 or 00), and a US size 6 was considered “overweight”.
I always wonder if it was a personal attack on Bridget by Kevin Burns, which is why she seemed to be edited poorly. Even in an interview that he did before he died, he really had an ax to grind about Bridget, including making accusations about her alleged behind-the-scenes behavior.
Bridget I think “correlation is not causation” is something you really need to consider is the competition was always supposed to be for control for sure! But I think the eating and #1 that is actually a very common fetish which is a darker possibility #2 I also think it was too be the bourgeois hero (where bougie comes from) which is that you were the normal girl who was just meant to be at the mansion, not necessarily a bunny or model. You were the aspirational girl where they could point to you both not being competitive and just wanting a belonging/community so it was a built in defence for criticism to the brand.
That the eating was just to show that no matter where you were or what you ate, worked out or didn’t, wore or didn’t that you were always what the playboy ideal always was basically. You were essentially the female version of a playboy, the all American girl next door who owned her own independence and beauty.
You should have Ally Carter on ! She says she was at the mansion and they showed a movie called Pig Night. Doesn't sound like it was a great time for her when she was there. She'd be a good guest!!
They should have flown you out the night before
Hef's curfew
@@erinkelley7104 that's sad/controlling that he was so rigid with his curfew he couldn't set them up to not be stressed and rushing
I live in La Costa! 🙋♀️
Well done for Holly for mentioning the Pamela thing because everyone does obsess over her and I feel like she isn’t a very nice girl in someways. I always preferred Bobby Brown and her book is so more honest but people really like Pam connect with the relationship with Tommy he was with bobbie for 18 months and then just gets with Pam and Pat was introduced, by Bobby Bobbie
Marilyn being like that has to be a Boomer thing. Forever ago, I had my first day as a cashier at Panera, and I was told that the position has opened up because this older lady got promoted to Catering. She would've been Marilyn's she or close to it. Obviously I thought that was awesome, so whenever we met, I was like hi, I'm taking over your old position, AND OMG WAS SHE HORRIBLE TO ME EVER SINCE. Horrible! I actually almost committed s because of her bullying me. It was so bad. I honestly wish I had quit, because that would've shown me that I cared about myself and made my depression easier to bear. But it was bad the entire time. She got what she wanted in the end, which was to get promoted to management. She eventually transferred. IDK how I got through all of that at work (there was more bullying from these two cashiers), because I was also dealing with abuse at home from family. My life was a dumpster fire 😂 I can laugh now because I'm finally on an anti depressant that works. Maybe I'll still have a little revenge on everyone later on, IDK. Nothing serious, just fun to think about. Like f y'all, I'm living in Santorini or whatever, and everyone gets a beautiful picture of me happy with where I'm living very obvious in the background 🙏