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  • Framing Nailer Head-to-head review - Hitachi NR1890 vs DeWalt DCN692
    A battle of two popular 18V cordless framing nailers.
    Roger visits his friend Malcolm to put the new Hitachi NR1890DBCL up against the established DeWalt DCN690 nail gun to see how much of a difference Hitachi's new air spring drive technology makes to performance.
    DeWalt Features
    =============
    • Dry fire lockout ensures that the tool is protected from firing without nails in the magazine
    • Cordless design so no hanging leads to deal with
    • The user can engage contact trip lock-off and prevent accidental discharge of the fastener
    • Two speeds or power levels which optimise the nailer for firing all lengths of nails.
    • The sequential operating mode allows for precision placement and the bump operating mode provides the user with production speed
    • Mechanical rather than gas operation offers consistent performance at a temperature between -20 and 50 degrees Celsius and minimal cleaning/service requirements
    • Class-leading vibration and sound figures offer fantastic user protection
    • Reversible belt/rafter hook provides increased portability and versatility on the job-site
    • Depths can be easily adjusted using the thumb wheel depth adjuster Increased visibility and durability along with protection for work-surface from the non-mar contact-trip
    • Ergonomic tool design allows the nailer to fit easily between a 400mm centre stud
    • Gas free operation offers a significant saving in running costs
    • Tool-free stall/jam clearance minimises user downtime
    Hitachi Features
    =============
    • Unique Air Drive System - Compressed air is used to drive each nail increasing power, performance and driving speed
    • Lower running costs: - No Gas cells required. Purchasing nails without gas cells are approximately 50% cheaper - No regular cleaning of a combustion chamber is required significantly reducing the cost of servicing and downtime - Fewer parts to manage results in easier maintenance
    • Dual function trigger for Sequential and contact mode with operation control panel
    • Dry-fire lockout mechanism prevents the nailer from being activated when there is a very low level of nails in the magazine
    • Integrated Hook for added convenience
    • Safer and more comfortable to use on any jobsite than Gas combustion models
    • Brushless motors are 30% more efficient than conventional models as no energy is wasted through brush friction thus extending battery run time
    • Rapid charger with the cooling system and USB port
    • Extreme high capacity 5.0Ah Li-ion batteries with multiple protection circuit provide long run time and protects the battery & tool from overload, overheat, over discharge & overcharge.
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  • @donricki1
    @donricki1 11 місяців тому +52

    I bought this nail gun as we were planning to renew all the fencing in our back garden. As this involved 19 double slatted fence panels, 10 of which needed to be cut down in size, we knew there would be a need for a great ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxHQsUrwNr5GQrnx9V4xDdUr56qxwuiBHt deal of re-stapling the wooden slats to the wooden framework. Each alteration required the re-stapling of 62 wooden slats with double staples. Prior to starting the work we ordered sufficient additional staples as per the instructions with the gun.The gun performed fantastically throughout the entire project with no jams of misfires. The adjustable power was excellent allowing the staples to be fired into the 8mm slats to the correct depth. For the price paid this was a bargain and it proved itself to be so reliable and versatile making an arduous task much quicker and professional. I cannot recommend this product highly enough and it will be used on many other projects in the future.

  • @jetson2075
    @jetson2075 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks guys. That was a great informal information. Love your style.

  • @786otto
    @786otto 5 років тому +26

    Got Paslode gun 20 years ago, still working.

  • @Kirkwoodjoinery
    @Kirkwoodjoinery 6 років тому +8

    Roger my dewalt broke not long after seeing this so I went and got the hitachi. Your right the power of the hitachi is much better. The nose on the dewalt is better by a long chalk . The bit on the side of the magazine on the hitachi limits your view when nailing studs at the top .
    And the belt hook on the hitachi needs improved .
    If I could get the design of the dewalt with the power of the hitachi, that gun would be perfect

  • @timgrubb5677
    @timgrubb5677 5 років тому +3

    Roger.... absolute gent... by far the best educational videos on youtube. Given me the confidence to take on more projects in my own house... thank you!💪

  • @sessiontelemetric5618
    @sessiontelemetric5618 6 років тому +2

    Great review gents. Good on ya!

  • @yvonroy9617
    @yvonroy9617 5 років тому +2

    We just upgraded to the hitachi.Love it.

  • @byronc7284
    @byronc7284 6 років тому +1

    Im a dewalt guy but I love my passlode. Much lighter. I've had it for almost 3 years and its going on strong and never even done any maintenance on it. I use it almost daily. When i go in production framing, i definitely do bring out compressor and pneumatic hitachi.

  • @mohammadrezarasooli1783
    @mohammadrezarasooli1783 5 років тому +4

    Really perfect and powerful, thank you for your efforts.

  • @danielgarbuzov8106
    @danielgarbuzov8106 6 років тому +4

    I bought the Hitachi 21 degree plastic collated framing nailer about a month ago and I love it. Already did 2 big additions. Just wish it came with a 6.0 battery and 15 min rapid charger for the price.

  • @0hypnotoad0
    @0hypnotoad0 5 років тому +22

    Have both of these, and the Hitachi is miles better honestly. Just a beautifully simple mechanism, tremendous nailing power, and lifetime warranty. The Dewalt isn't bad by any stretch but the inside of the gun is like a fucking Rube Goldberg machine, I hear issues about reliability and that wouldn't surprise me with how complicated the internals are.
    Only grab the Dewalt if you already have lots of Dewalt stuff 20v, and you're buying it bare tool/skin only. If it's a choice between buying the two kits outright, the Hitachi is the way to go, incredible nailer.

    • @kieranperry9685
      @kieranperry9685 4 роки тому +1

      0hypnotoad0 I got both too. Totally agree with you 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @ShanGee90
    @ShanGee90 3 роки тому

    I've had the makita champion edition Black drills with the buttons. Mine are still intact and not falling apart. I think the problem happens when the buttons are pressed down using a finger nail and not the tip of the finger. Just purchased the hi koki nr1890dc. Great gun!

  • @SebastiaanMollema
    @SebastiaanMollema 6 років тому +1

    Great show! Clear and understandable on the motivations!

  • @Liquid_dreams-
    @Liquid_dreams- 5 років тому +26

    Im a framer and a DeWalt fanboy, I would recommend any DeWalt tool apart from the nailer. I've had 3 and all of them have gone the same way. They are great when they work but eventually they just stop working and you can't do anything to fix it.

    • @leoshi6355
      @leoshi6355 5 років тому +1

      same problem... no one can save dewalt nailer

    • @TheJoshuadavis73
      @TheJoshuadavis73 3 роки тому +1

      If its not firing lossen those top screws leave abit of clearance 0.2mm its the firing pin that burrs causes it too jam

  • @Pch100
    @Pch100 6 років тому

    Great review

  • @karkastrue2878
    @karkastrue2878 6 років тому

    Hi, what temperature mode neller Hitachi?

  • @MdaMda-ky7zd
    @MdaMda-ky7zd 5 років тому +25

    have both, the Dewalt is for sale.

  • @paulsmith1981
    @paulsmith1981 5 років тому +7

    Had the Dewalt framing nailer and it was complete garbage, lasted six months. It was almost as terrible as the old Hitachi gas nailer which lasted about 3 months on site. When the mechanism on the Dewalt starts to ware after 5 to 6 months on demanding site work, it stops working and Dewalt will not stand over the guarantee. You will never see roofers using Dewalt nailers, its always paslode because paslode is durable. The Dewalt framing nailer is a DIY tool. Its fine for light occasional use, Its at a knock down price on Amazon for a reason.

  • @thetrick4fun
    @thetrick4fun 5 років тому

    Will NR1890DBCL work with 30 degrees paper off-set Full Round Head (not clipped head) nails? Like DeWalt dpt-16d131fh nails or Paslode 650388? Anybody tried?

  • @peekukthefrog
    @peekukthefrog 6 років тому

    Great video

  • @uttaradit2
    @uttaradit2 5 років тому +1

    skill builders is the biz....I like the tool comparisons and the on site work...from a diyer

  • @aidanhealy8274
    @aidanhealy8274 4 роки тому

    Will the NR1890DBCL take more than just 30 degree nails?ie. 34degree?

  • @herbertbrown9076
    @herbertbrown9076 4 роки тому +1

    I just bought the Hitachi it works great shooting 3 inch nails. Glade I made this choice . Great initial review

  • @isaacsmith400
    @isaacsmith400 4 роки тому

    I am familiar with the Dewalt nail gun we have bought three DeWalt nail guns different timings and they all have the same issue after using it for a while the battery won't pop out so you have to stop pulled off pop it back in it does something it knocks it loose

  • @TreeofLibertyDigest
    @TreeofLibertyDigest 5 років тому

    Very helpful info

  • @sykamuru3451
    @sykamuru3451 4 роки тому

    Ive never used the 18volt from dewalt but i own the 20volt version of this gun and love it, never had a single problem

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  4 роки тому +2

      It is the same tool. The Americans describe it at its peak voltage of 20 volts when charged but it operates closer to 18 volt which is why, we in the U.K, describe it as such.

  • @2thextrme
    @2thextrme 4 роки тому +1

    Tried both and can say hands down its the Hitachi is the best between the 2

  • @Griphook1
    @Griphook1 5 років тому +2

    Just bought the 692 (first fix) and the 660 (second fix). Can't wait to give them a try out :)

    • @con_boy
      @con_boy 2 місяці тому

      Can you tell me what the difference is?

    • @Griphook1
      @Griphook1 2 місяці тому +1

      @@con_boy between these two nail guns? One throws in a bigger fixing then the other.

  • @doctorlefthandthread
    @doctorlefthandthread 6 років тому +26

    I am surprised by the performance of the Hitachi over the Dewalt. I knew this model of Dewalt was superior to the old one but I didn't expect the Hitachi to outperform it good video thanks

    • @scottlehuray7062
      @scottlehuray7062 2 роки тому

      My old Dewalt with push in battery feels like it had more punch than my new Dewalt brushless 2nd fix nailer with slide in 18v xr battery.
      Still i wouldnt be without it, or the 1st fix.
      Shame the 1st fix doesnt also fire lost heads.

    • @histguy101
      @histguy101 2 роки тому

      @Some DUED The Hitachi ain't a gas nailer.

    • @AshHalls
      @AshHalls Рік тому

      @Some DUED I’d prefer to refill a gas than deal with jams. Gas has never been a issue for me personally.

  • @JS-qg1ie
    @JS-qg1ie 5 років тому +2

    Strongest extension ever!

  • @dukedaz8920
    @dukedaz8920 6 років тому

    I have the first 690 and the 692 dewalt nail gun first one was a knightmare cost me £240 in repairs,but the 692 has been replaced coz of a fault but it’s all on the platform u r using and mine is dewalt

  • @sweetfreedomGB
    @sweetfreedomGB 4 роки тому

    Had a compressor Paslode for many years and it was the daddy but the recoil gave us rotator cuff shoulder injuries. So maybe the Hitachi is the answer?

  • @Motorhoming_Fun
    @Motorhoming_Fun 4 роки тому

    will paslode nails work in the Dewalt.

  • @joeframer9642
    @joeframer9642 6 років тому +1

    I have 4 Dewalts.,building decks...no problems for two years ,rain,snow,cold,hott...works great...haven’t rebuilt or changed anything. .we use paslode paper nails 3 1/4” . @. 2 3/8 “ ....the hitachi is definitely heavier and longer...but drives nails great

    • @girlsdrinkfeck
      @girlsdrinkfeck 6 років тому +3

      dont forget if ya batterys fuck up ,its just one or 2 cells thats dead ,take the pack apart and replace the dead cell with a new one resolder the series of cells and its good as new ,save yourself £80

  • @redsresearch
    @redsresearch Рік тому

    Whats with the clipped head nails? Also the offset round nails?

  • @leonardorojas1781
    @leonardorojas1781 5 років тому

    Excuse me; are those framing nailers strong enough to use on hardwood? Like hard mahogany, kingwood, ironwood? It's that here in Peru we don't build with softwood like douglas fir. I'm worried if I buy one of these cordless nailers they won't sink the nails!! Given they will penetrate enough to be useful. Would they sink them? Has anyone tried? Any thoughts?
    Here in Peru you will very, very rarely see someone using a pneumatic or cordless framing nailer of any kind! (We do have finishing nailers) I wanted to be one of the rare! Please advice! :)

  • @paulkent7395
    @paulkent7395 6 років тому +1

    Hi Roger, what manufacturer of nails does malcolm use with his dewalt nailer?

  • @sarabiakristofer
    @sarabiakristofer 5 років тому

    Those are cool, but I personally think the paslode is 1 of a kind.😬but like I said, the hikoki and the DeWalt are great as well.

  • @TechieTard
    @TechieTard 5 років тому +1

    Ive got that Hitachi...oops, Metabo, and its just hands down the best portable framing nailer. My only issue is the magazine, needs to be just a tad longer.

  •  4 роки тому

    I've had the DeWalt about a year now. It took me awhile to get used to all that weight, but I've learned to like it... especially when I'm doing a quick job and don't feel like dragging hoses out. I have to admit I felt just a touch of jealousy when I saw how well the -Hita- *Metabo* worked, but then I remembered that I have almost every cordless tool that DeWalt makes and tons of batteries... *and* the yellow one is prettier.

  • @mrdan1210
    @mrdan1210 5 років тому +1

    I framed a large house (stick built) with the first gen of the dewalt on my own. Got through about 15 boxes of nails. I now struggle with shoulder pain I believe was caused by the dewalt. The gen 1 was ok but looking back it was not powerful enough and my shoulder took a lot of the recoil. Recently been using a paslode and you forget how powerful they are with virtually no recoil.

  • @11SecSTionStockSnail
    @11SecSTionStockSnail 6 років тому +2

    I’ve used both, personally like dewalt not containing all the bulk in the head. The hitachi has the motor on the side of the magazine and though rarely, I find that to interfere with some weird angles or when I try to get into tight spaces. Like adding back framing where missing and or blocking for some wall mounted cabinetry and other things.
    I still frame with pneumatic gun, but pull the cordless out when I need a quick small frame up or to add a few studs here n there, unfortunately it just happens that I use cordless for all the small backframing and other tight space cituations where we’ve missed something during initial frame job, and that’s when I feel dewalt shines specifically in “getting in to tight spaces”

  • @lorenrickey5481
    @lorenrickey5481 4 роки тому

    Metabo HTP/ Hitachi needs a longer nail magazine!!!! I’d buy it as a bare upgrade like Milwaukee is doing.

  • @giuseppecastaldo644
    @giuseppecastaldo644 3 роки тому

    good morning. Sorry about the question.
    i'd like to buy one nailer.
    better to battery or air?
    better Dewalt Hikoki Milwaukee?

  • @TheJoshuadavis73
    @TheJoshuadavis73 3 роки тому

    For the dewalt gun if its jamming loosen those 2 top screws leave abit of clearance 0.2mm stops firing pin jamming could be burrs or bent pin, this fixes straight away.

  • @Brown969
    @Brown969 6 років тому +5

    Excellent! Glad to see this video. It does make me wonder if I'd buy a Hitachi over a Dewalt as would then have an odd battery to lug around. Thanks for sharing!!

    • @joshytraylor
      @joshytraylor 5 років тому +2

      Do yourself a favour and buy neither, get a paslode im360ci it has no cold weather issues and will be more reliable.

    • @timcronin9080
      @timcronin9080 4 роки тому +1

      The guy I work with had q dewalt but after trying my hitachi he bought one for himself. Still has the dewalt for lighter stuff , jusr a great nailgun all round the hitachi.

  • @jasonhull2163
    @jasonhull2163 4 роки тому +1

    Hitachi has always had the best nail guns.

  • @MrFullfatt
    @MrFullfatt 6 років тому +2

    Are you going to make in depth comparison like you made with impact drivers ?

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  6 років тому +1

      Not unless there are a lot more battery nailers coming out. We've kind of covered this for now. We have more head to heads and in-depth reviews coming up in the next few months.

    • @MrFullfatt
      @MrFullfatt 6 років тому

      Skill Builder thanks

  • @philipjohn4149
    @philipjohn4149 5 років тому

    Hi Roger. Dewalt does really well with the flywheel in finished nail gun. I wonder why they have not build a similar one using the air chamber. Could it be patent infringement due to Milwaukee or ryobi. Hitachi has already copied flexvolt... With multivolt possible only sold in Japan getting around copy right infringement.

  • @approachableactive
    @approachableactive 3 роки тому +2

    The big difference for me is that the Hitachi/ hikoki gun fires when you press the trigger. The dewalt has to ramp up before it fires. I know you gas guys will be used to that but now I've had that instant action I find other types really tedious lol. Both guns are great but im really happy with my hikoki

  • @davideriksen2434
    @davideriksen2434 4 роки тому +2

    I have the DeWalt and love it I got a great deal on it and it does what I need and all my batteries fit

  • @hejhejsan5299
    @hejhejsan5299 4 роки тому +1

    I work indoors only and at my workplace we use DeWalt, and we got 7 of these. They were really good in the begining, but nowadays there's only problem when using them.. all of our nailguns have been send back for repairs and they are not even 2 years old, some of them aren't even 1 year old. DeWalt said that there's a maintenance after shooting 30 000 nails, but they barely make it to that point before they start to breakdown. And I'm not talking about jamming nails here, its worse problem than that...
    I would never buy a battery nailgun from DeWalt if I had my own company. They lack quality.
    It's sad because I think they are great when everything is working.

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  4 роки тому

      I would use a compressor and air nailer. they last forever.

    • @hejhejsan5299
      @hejhejsan5299 4 роки тому

      @@SkillBuilder Yeah, we have realized that too. But I generally like battery tools and think its come a long way, but the Dewalt nail gun is a joke...

  • @BelzoGraphics
    @BelzoGraphics 6 років тому

    Is the Trousers you got black snicker holster if so, where did you get them

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  6 років тому

      Belzo
      Try
      Chris Ruff
      CENTURY WORKWEAR LTD
      39 HIGH STREETBN26 5AB, POLEGATE, EAST SUSSEXUnited Kingdom
      website is
      snickersuk.com

    • @BelzoGraphics
      @BelzoGraphics 6 років тому

      Thanks mate are they all black or are they grey in places, I’m fussy with them

  • @tensevo
    @tensevo 3 роки тому

    Glorious competition, hopefully dewalt can come back stronger.

  • @lucas_lucas2007
    @lucas_lucas2007 Рік тому

    I have used both but I personally like the DeWalt one over the hikoki
    Although it has lots of power it's a lot more heavier and has less nail capacity in magazine

  • @kimobrien4381
    @kimobrien4381 6 років тому +27

    Hitachi the clear winner but as with all skill builder reviews they find a way to make DeWalt the champion.

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  6 років тому +7

      Kim O'Brien There is no bias in this at all and nobody paid us. The fact is they are both good tools. The Hitachi is more powerful but heavier. The choice is yours not ours.

    • @kimobrien4774
      @kimobrien4774 6 років тому +4

      Thanks for taking the time to reply. There's nothing wrong with being a DeWalt fanboy but you need to keep the reviews even, there is definitely bias for the DeWalt in this video.

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  6 років тому +4

      I won't persuade you but I have been accused by every manufacturer of favouring another through my 33 years of writing tool reviews. I am not a fan of any make of tools. I believe in buying the best and, if you want the truth, the best cordless nailer has yet to be made. Somebody, maybe Senco, will produce a lighter machine. They have this air technology in their finishing nailer.

    • @AndrewBrowner
      @AndrewBrowner 6 років тому

      anyword on milwuakee coming out with one? im already burried into the m18fuel line up pretty heavily and dont plan on having two platforms.. would like to see a m18 chainsaw as well but im not holding my breath on that one

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  6 років тому +3

      I will find out. Of course it won't be official but they usually let us know. Also I keep pestering them for a track saw. They have a big beast that will fit on a rail but it doesn't have an anti splinter rubber.
      Some of these companies baffle me. If they have a loyal following why leave gaps in the range to let other people take it?

  • @crazybird3674
    @crazybird3674 5 років тому +1

    I have the dewalt nailer. I was really impressed with it on regular framing but when it comes to yellow pine, green board, treated wood, or denser wood dewalt doesn't sink the nails all the way, most times i had to follow up with a hammer. Then I used the Hitachi about 2 weeks ago. Hitachi definitely has more power, it sunk the nail heads a good eighth inch into yellow pine and treated lumber. The rafter clips on the dewalt holds the gun close to the board making it kind of difficult to take off compared to the much larger rafter clip on the Hitachi. So, pick your gun according to what you need it for. I already had a bunch of dewalt chordless tools so plenty of batteries as well. Bottom line, Hitachi wins...more power, more manageable clip. That being said, I am happy with the dewalt...its not every day that i use treated lumber or yellow pine anyway.

  • @MrCretemaniam
    @MrCretemaniam 3 роки тому

    That windup noise the DW makes would drive me nuts !!!

  • @vistron888
    @vistron888 6 років тому +1

    The electronic push buttons can be kind of tedious but a good quality switch will last a very long time. The old selector switches can also get jammed up and not function.

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  6 років тому

      It seems that the selector switch on Malcolm's Dealt could do with some WD40

  • @LongRangeRifleSystem
    @LongRangeRifleSystem 3 роки тому +1

    The old paslode was fine, I have been through about 6 of the new im360 nail guns they just always break after about 18 months.
    Hikoki is almost perfect

  • @markrogers1095
    @markrogers1095 4 роки тому

    Would either of these work for doing a cedar fence?

  • @JamieVauxnut1
    @JamieVauxnut1 5 років тому +2

    I loved my dewalt nailers they are amazing and out perform paslode ... but thats only when they are new . The dewalts just dont last , got 2 dcn 692 guns about the same time you made this video and had them go wrong within 7 months and no matter how many times they were stripped and pistons/springs changed they were totally dead at 1 year old . We use them hard daily probably 100,000 nails each in a year but a new paslode will do that no problem , 2 year warranty and the resale value is great . Just sell them and buy new paslodes every year now . Dewalt just haven't cracked it with this flywheel system , but i will be keeping an eye out for improvements

  • @Asgardsteve1
    @Asgardsteve1 5 років тому +1

    I've got the Dewalt and it struggles with the longer nails, so you need to use the Flexvolt 6Ah battery but even then you get rogue nails on the longer ones, the only way round this is to switch to the 9Ah Flexvolt battery

    • @jaydaytoday3548
      @jaydaytoday3548 4 роки тому

      That's strange I've easily shot more than 10000 nails through mine all framing 16d shorts perfect. Only jammed once.

  • @louisallen6828
    @louisallen6828 3 роки тому

    Does anyone know if makita are going to bring a 18v first fix nail gun out any time soon?

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  3 роки тому

      If they do let's hope it is better than their gas nailer

  • @robaguiar2342
    @robaguiar2342 6 років тому +17

    The dewalt nailer is the one that turned me away from battery framing nailers. Our workplace went through 2 of the original ones and 2 of the "new" ones with all 4 needing significant repairs, and not using them as full time framers. I would rather clean my paslode then use that piece of junk nailer. Looks like hitatchi is going in the right direction though, might be looking into that one.

    • @joshytraylor
      @joshytraylor 5 років тому +3

      Yea same the dewalt is shite and underpowered when 1st fixing mone jammed 25 times a day let alone last 2 years! Paslode im360ci is the best machine out there!

    • @lewiscain2665
      @lewiscain2665 5 років тому +1

      yeah we bought one, few months it was fucked where as the pasload we had for years is still going strong, never misses a beat just as good as our new one.
      Pasload all the way.

    • @TechieTard
      @TechieTard 5 років тому +1

      You need to give the metabo a chance, its awesome! The dewalt is a major POS!

    • @elcidbob
      @elcidbob 4 роки тому +1

      @@TechieTard metabo is Hitachi

    • @Bemx2k
      @Bemx2k 4 роки тому

      For heavy duty cycle you should buy Dewalt NR1890DBCL

  • @pilot742
    @pilot742 5 років тому +11

    Phil Collins does framing work?

    • @B15SDMDESIGNS
      @B15SDMDESIGNS 5 років тому

      I can smell nail gun gas in the air tonight!.....

    • @phillipkelly233
      @phillipkelly233 4 роки тому

      He needs to do a bit of work on the side. Cos he can't sing for toffee now.

  • @sphinx19
    @sphinx19 5 років тому

    THX

  • @matthewevans7382
    @matthewevans7382 4 роки тому

    Advice needed please.
    Love the channel, I love DIY and I’m in the middle of renovating a property. I need to erect feather board fencing around the perimeter of the garden. I currently have 18 & 16 gauge nailers. I’m guessing these are too lightweight to attach the boards. What nailer type / nail length would you recommend?
    Thanks in advance

  • @Bemx2k
    @Bemx2k 4 роки тому +1

    That is exactly what I wanted to know mate ,

  • @tensazero
    @tensazero 6 років тому +60

    DeWalt: Easy to see except in bright sunlight.
    Hitachi: Drop it in a bush; can't find it.

    • @coolkid8865
      @coolkid8865 6 років тому +1

      Utensazero... duhh Don't join timber over bushes silly boy.....

    • @Mike_P646
      @Mike_P646 6 років тому +3

      I'd throw the dewalt straight on a fire,I've owned 2,total rubbish

    • @candelariosanchez273
      @candelariosanchez273 6 років тому +1

      No problem unless you a Gardner!

    • @Mentorcase
      @Mentorcase 5 років тому +4

      I know I have found 3 or 4 Hitachi's whilst out bushwalking!

  • @d2cdl
    @d2cdl 6 років тому +6

    The concept of gasless nailers is great, but the reality is they are too heavy for consitent daily use. If you're using 2500 nails a day, especially if roofing, these type of guns are hard going physically. I found the Dewalt had a wierd gyroscopic force that you had to counter aswell causing further fatigue.

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  6 років тому +1

      d2cdl
      That is the fllywheel in the DeWalt which is heavy and does produce a gyrospoic effect. I agree about the weight. If someone can take every one of those components and halve the weight they will have it sussed.

    • @crunch9876
      @crunch9876 6 років тому +1

      How are you using that many nails a day roofing? I doubt you’d use that many nails just installing sheathing

    • @cameroncrane3770
      @cameroncrane3770 6 років тому

      crunch9876 you can use a crap ton when you consider every board gets at the very least ~30-40 nails, at least where I work. When you think a ~2500 square foot homes you'll use over 60 sheets if I remember correctly so you think 60×40 and that's quite a large lowball for sheets that'd be what? Like 2400 nails?

  • @NathanHolle
    @NathanHolle 6 років тому +2

    Hi Roger ,
    I’ve had my dewalt for a few years , been really good.
    The main problem I have is when fencing , especially on thin feather edge , if you don’t catch the recoil right it leave the 51mm ring shanks sticking out . I have to push forward as I fire .It can push the fence back. Easier to avoid in bump mode, also in the time I’ve used it , I’ve never used the weaker mode.

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  6 років тому

      That was my impression. It is slow driving the nails in so the timber has chance to move.

  • @randomtask9029
    @randomtask9029 5 років тому +5

    3:00 Roger: 'Have you got it set for full depth?' Yes, Malcolm says, pointing it at Roger's face.

  • @randyhelgeson1254
    @randyhelgeson1254 4 роки тому

    Does the Hitachi jam on the knots as well?

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  4 роки тому +2

      No

    • @randyhelgeson1254
      @randyhelgeson1254 4 роки тому

      @@SkillBuilder this is basically why I'm asking. I am a floor layer and I also build showers and I also build fireplaces. But some of the times I actually need to frame out. I need to work faster. So using the cordless nailer seems to make sense even though I only use it some of the times. Which one would you recommend if I'm only using it like 20% of the time?

  • @TheStevenWhiting
    @TheStevenWhiting 4 роки тому +3

    Avoid the DeWalt DCN692 one. Brother in law bought one on Amazon and came DOA. Then reading the reviews the DeWalt one, loads of them have died shortly after purchase.

  • @joshcowart2446
    @joshcowart2446 5 років тому

    They seem to work slower than pneumatic. That being said, the time you spend setting up and messing with hoses might make up for those fractions of a second per shot

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  5 років тому +2

      Yes they are a little slower but nobody likes the hoses in the U.K so even if it took 2 seconds longer per shot a lot of people would settle for it.

  • @girlsdrinkfeck
    @girlsdrinkfeck 6 років тому +4

    i love nailing ;)

  • @gdfggggg
    @gdfggggg 5 років тому

    I’ve never used one of these, I just screw everything. If you screw up (pun intended) your timber placement you just undo the screws. Cmon, nobody’s perfect. How long are the nails on these?

  • @Palpac
    @Palpac 5 років тому

    Interesting to find the the Dewalt doesn’t work on air but on friction.

  • @seniorblackhat
    @seniorblackhat 5 років тому +4

    tried a dewalt for remodeling, had troubles right out of the box. After calling the tech support ended up taking it right back for refund. no power, constant misfires definately not worth buying

    • @bigrigross
      @bigrigross 5 років тому +1

      Once I switched from Paslode nails to the dewalt nails, all of my issues went away. No idea why. I usually use my gun with 3" galvanized ring shank nails.

  • @Hunter-ow4me
    @Hunter-ow4me 2 роки тому

    What's the price difference?

  • @HaydnExport
    @HaydnExport 6 років тому

    what type of roof is going on that build?

  • @bp8092
    @bp8092 5 років тому +1

    Hi Roger. Great video. Can I ask of your honest opinion? I'm looking for a nail gun. I'm a Makita person and I don't want a gas nailer so I'm moving out of my comfort zone! These 2 nailers seem like the best / only option for me. So my question is; currently one can purchase the Dewalt nailer (dcn692) as a twin pack with the 2nd fix nailer with 2 5ah batteries for under £600. To me the Hitachi looks the better nailer but put simply is it worth the extra cost? I won't be using it every day. And with the batteries and case, it comes in at about the same cost as the 1st and 2nd fix Dewalt nail gun set. I'd love your thoughts. Many Thanks.

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  5 років тому +1

      Big Pouse
      The Hikoki is a good gun. I have used it for over a year now and no problems. The only drawback is the weight. The lightest gun is the Paslode but that is gas which is a problem if you want low maintenance.

    • @bp8092
      @bp8092 5 років тому +1

      @@SkillBuilder cheers for that. I noticed you didnt mention the dewalt so I'm guessing it is the Hikoki is the best option. I dont wantnthe hassle of gas so mind made up! Cheers for that. Weight wise I'm only using it for occassional stud walling so I hope it isn't so much if an issue. Many thanks!

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  5 років тому +1

      The DeWalt suffers from recoil which means you need both hands on it to stop it bouncing. On a 90mm nail the Hikoki is way better. Since the brand change from Hitachi there are some old stock Hitachi nailers on offer and it is the same nailer. Mine is Hitachi.

    • @bp8092
      @bp8092 5 років тому

      @@SkillBuilder any ideas where you can pick up an old model?! I've got a big garage build coming up with a huge roof. I'm mostly wanting it for that. I'm doing it all myself. My brother runs a site - Pouse Around The House. But he's so busy he wont have time to film it! Maybe you have a few weeks spare to lend a hand?! 😉

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  5 років тому +1

      where do you live?

  • @hartsymk1
    @hartsymk1 6 років тому +3

    dewalt started it. hitachi improved it. only time will tell what other company's will bring to the table to improve cordless nailguns, weight reduction, power and reliability are key

  • @timwyld573
    @timwyld573 4 роки тому

    The homeowner will have a very secure roof :)

  • @dante8506
    @dante8506 6 років тому +3

    I love my Dewalt tools. However, their cordless nail guns are trash, nothing but trouble. I would personally go Hitachi, or stick to the old faithful pneumatic.

  • @ScreamingEagleFTW
    @ScreamingEagleFTW Рік тому

    is that hitachi and the metabo the same thing? same company?

  • @unknownuser4717
    @unknownuser4717 3 роки тому

    My dewalt is fine until I'm joisting with 50mm ring shanks and fitting the new type osb hardboard floor boards it leaves them half hanging out if u try and rapid fire. I say paslode or hilti is the best

  • @philipdove1705
    @philipdove1705 5 років тому +3

    It's time Milwaukee!

  • @randyvalantino6850
    @randyvalantino6850 5 років тому +2

    Try nailing 1 inch exterior ply or nailing into oak . They simply wont do what a paslode will do

  •  5 років тому

    Permanently sealed means not serviceable/repairable. You can buy replacement parts for the dewalt

  • @sdjnwhyNZ
    @sdjnwhyNZ 6 років тому

    The ring shank nails are real pain in the arse and I only use powerful air gun to drive them.

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  6 років тому +1

      That Hitachi handles them with ease, maybe not in oak.

  • @hartsymk1
    @hartsymk1 5 років тому

    i was told but a dewalt service member that the firing spring in the dewalt is only good for roughly 23 thousand nails, sounds alot, but tbh its not. its not an expensive job to replace it but its not completely service free, as for the hikoki only time will tell how long the piston seals will last. these tools have a long way to go but! they are a brilliant start.

  • @daveisrael1240
    @daveisrael1240 2 роки тому +1

    I went through 3 Dewalt Nailers framming a house this summer ,one of them I only got a clip of nails through it and the motor burned out ,Dewalt should be ashamed of themselves for putting this piece of garbage on the market and iam a Dewalt guy I have nothing but Dewalt tools including 6 of the 60 volt batteries Iam vary impressed with everything else I have but this nailer is a whole lot of frustration.

  • @dragan3290
    @dragan3290 Рік тому

    I used the paslode from the biulder on site. Dewalt is good for building up your shoulders. In Australia dewalt is beautiful! Maybe the cold???

  • @jesusruiz2665
    @jesusruiz2665 3 роки тому

    Hitachi rules!!

  • @vx3259
    @vx3259 5 років тому

    Use of the a 6 or 9 Amp flexyvolt battery will add more "grunt" to Dewalt and it will sink the nail as deep as Hikoki does.

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  5 років тому +1

      Handy Phil
      The Dewalt uses a flywheel to friction drive the pin which pushes the nail in. Tell us what you think the larger AHr battery will achieve. I have checked and DeWalt says the RPM will not increase so perhaps you could explain what you mean by 'grunt.'

    • @vx3259
      @vx3259 5 років тому

      @@SkillBuilder More Amps gives you longer lasting constant 18 (20) V the tool requires to run on as I have found out that 4 or 5 Amp just don't. I am talking from the experience of using the tool.
      "grunt" is misspelled "guts"

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  5 років тому +1

      @@vx3259 We say grunt in the U.K anyway so if you are talking about hitting power then it is only produced by the speed of the flywheel. That would mean it had to spin the motor faster. I am interested in what you say and have some Flexvolt so I can try it.

  • @user-qq1ll5uw8s
    @user-qq1ll5uw8s 4 роки тому

    Dewalt лучше! Проверенно на собственном опыте

  • @Pro1er
    @Pro1er 6 років тому +2

    You need to try the Hitachi in below freezing weather. Ryobi uses a compressor similar to the Hitachi and they don't work in really cold weather. Put it in the freezer overnight, take it out and run it straight away.

    • @SkillBuilder
      @SkillBuilder  6 років тому +11

      You shouldn't be working in a freezer. We have used it in minus 2 and it is fine.

    • @vinceking7878
      @vinceking7878 5 років тому

      Probably only if they are wet??

    • @bertaframer4569
      @bertaframer4569 5 років тому

      @@SkillBuilder Framers in northern Canada work in a freezer 7 months of the year

  • @delz3501
    @delz3501 5 років тому

    does the hitachi require hitachi nails?