54% of Sri Lanka’s external loans came from the international capital market. Although the proportion of loans from China increased from 2% in 2008 to 9% in 2017, the debt to China accounted for about 10% of Sri Lanka’s total foreign debt in US dollars. China's total loans are about 3.38 billion US dollars, the overall proportion is not high. China is Sri Lanka's fourth largest creditor after international financial markets, the Asian Development Bank and Japan. Among bilateral loans, China's lending to Sri Lanka is much lower than that of Japan and also lower than that of India.
What are the collateral for other creditor? China may get better collateral, and, therefore, lower on the lending rate. Btw, Asian dev bank is leading by China.
According to the data of Sri Lanka's Ministry of foreign resources, Sri Lanka's external debt in April 2021 was composed of 47% of international capital market loans, 13% of Asian Development Bank loans, 10% of China's loans, 10% of Japan's loans, 9% of the world bank loans, 2% of India's loans and 9% of others.
Very disappointed with this shallow analysis from a Newsnight editor. Even at personal level, any individual applying for a big bank loan is subject to overall assessment of his whole portfolio, not just the single item on the application. The BBC man touched a number of infrastructure items built by China. Are these on commercial loan basis or international development assistance basis? Are these other projects in arrear? Of the many debtors, why Sri Lanka chose to let China colonize the port? What about the 92% of foreign debt? Has Sri Lanka reached similar arrangement with the other debtors? Some comments above, written in Chinese, brought out strong valid analogy: knowing that the borrower is a stupid gambler, yet the debtor is generous to give out a big loan which has no reasonable repayment plan etc. If this is not debt trap, then BBC should cite another example. Mr Chu asked the Sri Lankans (the borrowing gambler) if this is a debt trap and accepts the answer NO at face value. Where has the investigative spirit of Newsnight gone? How can the Chief Editor in BBC approve such 1/8 baked project to be aired under the Newsnight flagship brand?
This commentator never mentioned about the Chinese built highway between the Airport & Colombo, a highway he could never miss because that would the the first road to get onto first thing out of the airport. What it used to take over an hour, now down to 15 minutes.
You are nitpicking. You raise accusations out of no base. China is not the largest loan owner. Why are you so hostile against China's investment instead of others? Why do you describe Sri Lankans building the port as "... let China colonize the port"? How? Just because the Sri Lankans look for the investment from China through the international business market? If the investment coming from UK, Portugal, or Netherlands, does it mean that the Europeans come back to colonize Sri Lanka again? And if so, is it better for you to swallow?
@@arhq The more the west smearing the Belt & Road projects, reflecting how successful it is. What else could they do other than month jobs? Just look at the laughable G7 month jobs with $500B from the most supposedly "richest" nations while, B&R is already worth $4Trillions. The G7 meetings ended with no specific goals; with no specific beneficiaries; no specific contributors; merely hollow talks. The "putting words into mouths or others" don't work anymore. Stuffing their values and apply their "truths" on others are just typical tactics been used by the West for the last 50 years. Freedom blah, democracy blah, human rights blah blah blah.
@@arhq exactly as you said, china is not the only one lending money to sri lanka. this bbc report did not bother to find out the status of these other loans and, more importantly, whether other assets were seized by loaning institutions for non payment. so it seems this port project was the only one with such strings attached. the fact is that China has taken control of the port for 99 years. tell me another commercial pursuit with the same fate. that's why I consider this a colonization effort to take away a part of sri lanka for 99 years.
Is there cheating? Is there a hidden clause? Is there any compulsion? If no. Those who make decisions to borrow should be adults with sufficient cognitive ability.
When Sri Lanka is in trouble, USA and UK pretend not to see. China has been branded a "debt trap" without standing idly by. How shameless! Should everyone stand idly by when you're in trouble, and blame anyone who reaches out?
As a Chinese living outside mainland China, the longer I stay overseas, I more I wish the Western to continue labelling China as being evil and horrible. Fools are always gonna remain fool. There is no need to waste the energy and effort to enlighten them. On the contrast, educating people who choose to be belind is a pointless and stupid action anyways. Let people believe what they believe and so be it. At the end of the day, quality of living will prove itself. People should have the rights to be poor and live their life in poverty. At least, they have democracy.
5:45`half of lending to developing countries not reported to the world bank nor IMP`...World bank and IMP are organisations that sounds like international organisations but actually controlled by US governament. It makes sense none of lending is reported. The question is why there are half of lending reported to those organisations?
Because such countries that need to be responsible for the global debt crisis are not themselves responsible for any of it. 2010 post European debt crisis Europe is also facing serious debt problems, in East Asia South Korea's resident debt to GDP ratio has been as high as 104.3%, and Japan even up to 226%, their figures are even more terrible, and the amount are far greater than Sri Lanka. The trigger of this round of world economic crisis is due to the impact of COVID-19 on the U.S. economy, the Federal Reserve in 2020 to start a new round of extraordinary monetary easing, the focus of the Federal Reserve's monetary policy objectives from "price stability" to "all to economic growth as the priority ", the global market in a short period of time a huge inflow of dollars, directly pushed up the global price level, resulting in rising prices, while a large number of developing countries have not yet completed industrialization of their own foreign exchange reserves are tight, which will lead to a large number of dollars out of these countries. And this year since the Federal Reserve in order to suppress the excessive price level, decided to raise interest rates directly led to the global dollar assets back to the United States, all countries in the world in addition to the United States was forced to accept the devaluation of assets, the most serious losses of countries and regions, namely the European Union, Japan, South Korea, and China. The euro exchange rate has depreciated to 1 to 1 with the dollar, the yen has depreciated by 20% to its lowest level in nearly 20 years, and China has depreciated by 8%. Why China? Because China is the world's major exporter of goods and the world's main target country for investment, and the loss of assets has a great impact on China. This worldwide debt crisis of developing countries is essentially a transfer of the crisis from the United States to the world through its absolute advantage in the financial sector. Only the developed regions can make up for the lost dollars through industrial exports, while countries like Sri Lanka, which rely on low-end manufacturing and agriculture, don't have enough dollar reserves so they will be the first to go bankrupt.
I dont see any answer from the 3 minute report. Where did the investment money go? The Chinese embassador said the funds are all transparent to the public. The Sri Lankan government said at least one $1B fund was not reported. So who is right and who is wrong?
If a county trap into a "debt" and being pursued by their creditors, which means she hasn't borrowed enough money. Because if she does, she should have enough bargaining power against creditors.
Although the loans from China are not as high as those international loans but many of the infrastructure are built to be built not built to be use. Then the county is force to repaid or give up ownership.
The Sri Lanka today is the Sri Lanka today because they obviously ignore what their people actually need! The people don’t need expensive infrastructures! What they need is to increase their products on export and decrease the products that needs to be imported. Yet the Sri Lanka government does the opposite, and building some useless infrastructures. The reason for Sri Lanka to go bankrupt is not China - even though I also don’t like the Chinese government, I don’t like how the western media is trying to flame China either.
So the ambassador’s argument is , what ever you say, I’ll just say the opposite conclusion, not offering any evidence, just say the opposite. And you just take my word as truth.
I don't believe that the Chinese ambassador says nothing but conclusions without any evidence. This is a formal interview, and the topic of "China's debt trap" is not the first time. The Chinese ambassador will certainly have enough data to refute this topic. For example, the debt scale and proportion of other countries, how to query the specific purpose of the loan, and so on. But this video only intercepted the ambassador's conclusion. If I were a reporter and faced with an ambassador who only said the conclusion, no evidence for , I would ask: "where is the evidence?", Then I had an embarrassing vlog that the ambassador could not provide evidence. Why didn't he do it? Obviously, the ambassador gave the evidence, but he didn't want to publish it.
It's willing buyers and sellers. In actual fact China did deliver tangible structures as promised, and as any loan goes, there is collateral. True that China is trying to grow its political footprint global as every nation of its size and capability would (just rewind 50 years and you will discover the same). Sri Lankans gov are no dumb people but just how greedy they are.
*Debt trap *- The white men's lie about Sri Lanka However, loans from China accounted for only about 10 per cent of Sri Lanka’s total foreign debt in 2020. The largest portion - about 30 per cent - can be attributed to international sovereign bonds. Japan actually accounts for a higher proportion of their foreign debt, at 11 per cent. Defaults over China’s infrastructure-related loans to Sri Lanka, especially the financing of the Hambantota port, are being cited as factors contributing to the crisis. But these facts don’t add up. The construction of the Hambantota port was financed by the Chinese Exim Bank. The port was running losses, so Sri Lanka leased out the port for 99 years to the Chinese Merchant’s Group, which paid Sri Lanka US$1.12 billion. So the Hambantota port fiasco did not lead to a balance of payments crisis (where more money or exports are going out than coming in), it actually bolstered Sri Lanka’s foreign exchange reserves by US$1.12 billion. So, what are the real reasons for the crisis? From the few numbers given it clearly showed that the debt trap which Sri Lanka is suffering is not from loans from China. China's loan accounts for only 10% of the total debt of Sri Lankan. *Japan's loan to Sri Lanka is more than China at 11%, why no one calls it a debt trap?* Mischievous agenda from the Americans is the reason. They lied and spread disinformation to smear China without telling the real numbers. If debt to China is only 10%, Japan 11%, then the bulk of the debt, the real debt trap of 79% came from where? It is the IMF, the biggest creditor of Sri Lanka, the organisation that is causing all the woes of the Sri Lankans. This is another perfect example of the treacherous Americans pointing fingers, making wild allegations when they are the real culprits. Sri Lanka's debt trap is caused by loans from the IMF. What about the infamous lie of debt trap caused by the Hambantota Port? Yes, Sri Lanka took a big loan from China's Exim Bank and unable to pay back the loan. But Sri Lanka turned it into a revenue by leasing the port to China and was paid US$1.12 billion for it. Where is the debt, where is the debt trap when it is a plus for Sri Lanka? Why the evil Americans still spreading this lie of debt trap because of the port? Why don't the Americans admit that the debt trap came from the IMF, an American controlled organisation?
There's no solution for developing countries. They need good leaders. But good leaders are rare commodities for any nation, including China in particular.
Sri Lanka's economy relies almost 100% on Tourism, and during the 3 years of Covid travel shut down. It's not difficult to imagine the difficult situation they are dealing with now... The president of the country should talk to other wealthy country and sell few of the islands or lease them for 100 years!!!
Surpassing China, India has become the largest bilateral lender to Sri Lanka by disbursing a total of $968 million in loans in four months of 2022, according to a media report.
This 7 minutes reviews on Sri Lanka current economic situation can only show part of the reality of its society, at least BBC has put effort to show the world what is going on. 無論如何,沒人會想到要以白象項目或是爛尾過程收場,且行且看吧。 謝謝分享,辛苦了。
Investment is a perception. When China started different projects without increasing the growth of GDP, other investors would wait and see whether those projects could bring financial benefits. A country making money can be tourism, productivity, and internal consumption. It is not the case for Sri Lanka.
Right, just sit there and lie.. anyone with half a brain can check both the IMF and World bank reports on Sri Lanka's debt. Why do you Western liars put out lies that can be fact checked so easily... sad and sorry excuse for a human being.
China debt from 2016 3% increase to 2022 10% and China need Sri Lanka vote in UN etc... 首先,西方政府和國際金融機構55%的貸款和捐款投入貧窮國家的衛生、教育和人道主義項目等社會項目,但中國近67%的貸款用於基礎建設。 在經濟低迷時期,收費公路、港口和發電廠收入減少,從而使項目本身更難產生償還貸款所需的收入。 中國貸款約7成投入窮國基礎建設 其次,由於中國的貸款通常以資源產生的收入為抵押擔保品,因此在經濟衰退期間違約風險會顯著上升,因為需求下降,通常會壓低大宗商品價格,這次除石油、天然氣以外,其它大宗物資價格近幾個月急跌,這進一步壓低窮國收入,更難償還債務。 Within the Asia-Pacific region covered by The Diplomat, just two countries voted against the resolution: Russia itself and North Korea. Ten countries abstained: Bangladesh, China, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Mongolia, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Tajikistan, and Vietnam. (Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan did not vote at all.)
@@seaoooo 整個新市鎮,金融城建設出來了,43% 是中國公司控製 Colombo Port City: A Chinese White Elephant as Sri Lanka Desperately Seeks India’s Help to Tide Over Economic Crisis However, out of the 269 hectares of land, 43% or 116 hectares has been leased to CHEC, which is a subsidiary of the Chinese state-owned Chinese Communication and Construction Company (CCCC). 碼頭做出來了,大股東又是中國公司... In July 2017, the agreement was signed, but CMPort was allowed a 70% stake. Simultaneously a 99-year lease on the port was granted to CMPort. 經濟效益將來會高過成本?國家一早破產了 你们可不会天天给人递武器, 但会天天做吸血鬼吸人家的血...
overseas investments are not just gaining external influence, but could be risky assets. the point that one can control a soverign nation just by providing loans or invests is either naive or making deceptions.
我不了解斯里兰卡,但是我很了解非洲Zambia,也就是非洲最大借贷国。媒体一直炒作中国债务危机,其实中国国家债务只能算排到第三位,最大是欧债,但是从来没人报道,只报道在中国借款太多,为什么呢,因为媒体就是欧洲的。赞比亚已出口铜矿为主,但是最近新政府为了过的西方14亿美金贷款竟然取消了矿产税,要知道赞比亚绝大多数收入来自铜矿,而70%矿都掌握在欧洲加拿大人手里
因为怕中国的低利息影响他们赚快钱。
根據斯里蘭卡官方公佈的截至2022年的外債數據:
43% 欠 私人債券持有人。主要有,美國的貝萊德資產集團、英國滙豐、法國農業信貸銀行
等。
16% 欠 日本主導的亞洲開發銀行。
10% 欠 美國主導的世界銀行。
8% 欠 日本。
以上,歐美日 官方和私人的外債占到80%左右。
中國的全口徑外債佔14%。
這就是基本的外債情況。
現在最騷操作的一點是,佔大頭的歐美日在各種輿論炒作中國外債問題,主要訴求兩點:
1、要求斯里蘭卡繼續和中國借外債,然後把中國的錢用來還到期的歐美日外債。
2、造輿論要求中國直接減免斯里蘭卡外債。但歐美日外債必須償還,不能減免。
中國現在的態度是:
1、繼續借外債可以,但只能用於斯里蘭卡自身,不能用於還歐美日到期債務。斯里蘭卡做
不到,我就不借。
2、債務減免可以,全世界一起減。你斯里蘭卡和歐美日去談,歐美日減免多少,我中國按
同比例減免。
問題是,現在歐美日一點血不準備出,所以斯里蘭卡的債務重組一直卡在那裏。
客观的
BBC等都是西方的主场,当今世界中国与西方的舆论战都是超级劣势的。
所以很多人在西方的舆论主场里,很容易就提前“败”了,倒向西方。
舆论战是东西对抗的一个战场,也是中国的持久战。
中国的债务还不是因为城投债和地方债,中央的国债不算什么的
斯里蘭卡最大債主是日本,中國只是第三名而已。
另外任何國投資也沒有義務跟世界銀行或國際貨幣組織報告的義務,國際貨幣組織是美國監控各國金流的組織在史諾登報告都已經揭露。可見還是有很多人不知道。
但別忘了斯里蘭卡
是重度依賴觀光收入的國家
中國除了一代一路之外
疫情衝擊觀光也脫不了責任
@@tonyyoung1991 我们不去斯里兰卡是我们的责任?哪日本人怎么不去?你的逻辑我不理解
@@米你老板 他爹都没去他怎么敢
2017年因斯里蘭卡無力償還對中國大陸約80億美元負債,迫使該國將南部漢班托塔港以約11億美元的代價租予中國大陸99年,以自對中國大陸扣除欠款,日本只佔10億哦,中國搶了港口也還和日本持平
@@米你老板 又沒說疫情觀光受影響是因為一帶一路…
對外基建或援助本質上的確是國家勢力的對外擴張,而且世界各強國都做過或者一直都在做。而勢力擴張的背後標的物仍是經濟利益。不過個人覺得目前中國仍是屬於播種階段,撒出的錢多,收穫的少,所以近年陸續有學者認為中國可能會掉入自己的債務陷阱。
中共那脑子也会做买卖,开国际性玩笑。
项目不可能全部成功,肯定有亏有赚。中国不是斯里兰卡,他陪的起。
我记得希腊有个港口,已经赚翻,港口负责人接受采访时自豪的声称他们已经是欧洲第二大港,为希腊的发展做出了贡献。这就是正面的例子。
@@uex2664 呵呵,中国这些一代一路就是一贪一腐,国内利用关系,采购大量原料,收取回扣,给当地官员输送腐败,最后施工过程中再进行一些猫腻,国内屡见不鲜。当这些国家发现,最后这些工程款还不上,就被CCP要挟联合国投票或者出让矿权,或者股份。这就是一带一路实质,所有血汗钱来自于国内外贸公司辛苦劳动,对工厂劳动者的剥削压榨,国内银行借款,金融机构印钞,最后都叫老百姓买单,官员们通过项目把自己家变成外国移民,国内留下一堆无法清偿的债务。这就是所谓的多方共赢,有点脑回路不是五毛🐶粉红的人都知道,撒币不会长久。
@@uex2664 记得是什么意思,我还tmd记得共产党贪腐呢!我还记得64呢?我还记得他们是怎么对待武汉人民和所有中国人的呢?洗地也要讲点水平,多学学胡锡进怎么叼盘,你们就不会一辈子在监狱里捡肥皂。
@@uex2664 賺了的錢進了誰的口袋裏?
54% of Sri Lanka’s external loans came from the international capital market. Although the proportion of loans from China increased from 2% in 2008 to 9% in 2017, the debt to China accounted for about 10% of Sri Lanka’s total foreign debt in US dollars. China's total loans are about 3.38 billion US dollars, the overall proportion is not high. China is Sri Lanka's fourth largest creditor after international financial markets, the Asian Development Bank and Japan. Among bilateral loans, China's lending to Sri Lanka is much lower than that of Japan and also lower than that of India.
What are the collateral for other creditor? China may get better collateral, and, therefore, lower on the lending rate. Btw, Asian dev bank is leading by China.
你可以看看日本跟印度給的利息是多少, 比較過後中國真的高太多...
@@santo5192 那是搶中國高鐵建設,提供超低利率好嗎?
@@santo5192 你可以参考一下越南的大桥建设,日本用超低利率抢了中国的单子,最后因为偷工减料桥梁垮塌,越南政府又付了2500万美金做后续工程
@@hellosunny Asian Development Bank is leaded by Japan~
報導缺少了那些所謂大白象工程是怎樣建造的,除了資金是從中國借來,勞動力呢?物料呢?若人和物料都必需由中國引入,那麼整幅圖畫已顯露出來。
記者是中國人.親共的.
我覺得MI6的擔心並非空穴來風,如果斯里蘭卡不是成為焦點中共有可能在斯里蘭卡建立軍港,現在中共只是戰略性退讓怕影響一帶一路的計劃。
@@Sam642009 這編輯不老實.輕輕質疑,就讓'大使'自由回應.話''我覺得都 是公開透明的''..個中國編輯就收貨了.西方記者會再問'能給具體例子嗎?"' 或自己去找數據..但這BBC編輯.求其就放過了大使.
用大使單方面的訪談貫穿整部片
真是搞笑了
@@brucelin8950 應該採訪反對聲音
反正現在中國沒錢了,也搞不了一帶一路,最爽是雙方官員,一方的了受賄賂,一方可以吃回購,當地勞動力不怎麼請完全沒收益不用評,而中國國企是借銀行的錢去建設,而收益和利息成本完全不能成正比,可憐是兩國老百姓沒有收益,現在拿自己在銀行的錢都要上班審批限額笑死
@尖東喪彪 通常這樣說的人都會比對方看得更多😂
@@sosoable 中國是最大的投資方,投資大部分用的是美元,今天談的是中、卡兩國的問題,不拿中國出來拿誰?
負責任的大中國每次在說完如中卡友誼史上最佳,有利進行資本交易說中國富強了,中國是負責任的
到有問題的時候撇說斯里蘭卡問題要自己解決,這沒有問題,缺美元破產也是事實,但跟中國投資沒關係嗎?
中國人的邏輯:談論A事情時,就拿B、C、D出來混淆視聽。就繼續"別賴中國,別誣陷中國"自娛娛人,想當國際大國不是這樣當的,笑死人
bbc都来打自己的脸了,你们还不醒悟,真是没救了。
bbc这样做 我估计是斯里兰卡问题有眉目了,bbc也不敢继续混水摸鱼。
@@s920181 中国最大?中国排第四好吗,中国只占斯国债务的百分之十不到,先做好功课再来黑中国,1450基本都是三分上大学真的不假
懂王不給你做,可惜了
作为中国人,看了很讽刺。首先之前有个非洲记录也是,评论里是大批非洲人自己出来说话是他们跟美国英文借钱也借不到啊。其实,最重要的是,这些钱都是我们屁民的钱,取之于民用之于番。在国外投资的钱我们血牛说不上话,盈利了跟血牛无关。在中国只要是国企提供得东西都贵,又垄断又贵。我们是真的希望这些外国大撒比可以投资给我们自己的民生,医疗,教育,养老啊,但是在极权国家,我们只有义务没有权力
那你只是共產黨的奴隸
说的太对了!
同意,中國人民真的很可憐,只有義務沒有權利。然後還一堆小粉紅幫奴隸主辯護
投资用的不是你屁屁的钱,用的是外汇储备是美元
别假扮大陆人了国内又不用美元。美元用来投资发展中国家比持有然后因美国防水贬值好太多了。
According to the data of Sri Lanka's Ministry of foreign resources, Sri Lanka's external debt in April 2021 was composed of 47% of international capital market loans, 13% of Asian Development Bank loans, 10% of China's loans, 10% of Japan's loans, 9% of the world bank loans, 2% of India's loans and 9% of others.
斯里蘭卡總統府被示威者攻佔!
總統疑捲款逃亡!
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很高興真正公正媒體的去以媒體角度和媒體的道德立場,客觀性進行這類的報導。希望世界各國都該恢復這點以身為媒體人的〈榮譽〉與〈公正〉和〈自由〉,不受政治綁架,也不要讓自己的格調降為政論名嘴脫口秀的節目。
感謝BBC的帶頭風範、努力與堅持。
然后英镑和美元收割全世界,还跪着舔说这不是陷阱,他们是人类的希望
哪里公正客观了?给了一个似是而非的结论,却绝口不提斯里兰卡最大的债权国是日本,导致斯里兰卡债务危机的是美国的加息。
樓上的把影片看完好嗎?
1.一帶一路是一種宏觀的簡化大意。
2.中國提供的貸款,有一半並未向WB或IMF報告,因此有不透明,不公開等疑慮。
3.說白了比較像高風險高報酬的投資。
4.斯里蘭卡就是展現了所謂的「高風險」的情況罷了。
5.這種高風險的發展國家通常都有一定程度的貪腐。
6.沒有證據顯示中國有在密謀著什麼,它或許有個藍圖,但事情遠比它想的複雜。
7.中國可能會被迫承受「削債」開先例的風險。
04:02
「有人說,中國貸款可能為當地腐敗提供了便利。」
「而不是增強了中國的全球實力。」
06:33
也許「中國在斯里蘭卡想要什麼」
這個謎團的謎底就是:它自己也不知道。
很客观@@muttachang3147
@@muttachang3147 什么狗屁WB,IMF, 美国人起个world, international 就当做神啦?
请问这个殖人,你家一家老小每天花多少钱,有向我刚成立的宇宙银行汇报吗?
簡單的說:
1.一帶一路是一種宏觀的簡化大意。
2.中國提供的貸款,有一半並未向WB或IMF報告,因此有不透明,不公開等疑慮。
2.說白了比較像高風險高報酬的投資。
3.斯里蘭卡就是展現了所謂的「高風險」的情況罷了。
4.這種高風險的發展國家通常都有一定程度的貪腐。
5.沒有證據顯示中國有在密謀著什麼,它或許有個藍圖,但事情遠比它想的複雜。
6.中國可能會被迫承受「削債」開先例的風險。
04:02
「有人說,中國貸款可能為當地腐敗提供了便利。」
「而不是增強了中國的全球實力。」
06:33
也許「中國在斯里蘭卡想要什麼」
這個謎團的謎底就是:它自己也不知道。
你觉得为什么大家不像world bank和imf借款?看到韩国的情况没?
沒談該向誰借款,內容是說並未向WB或IMF報告,因此有不透明,不公開等疑慮。
這種事情「事後」看愛怎麼說都可以。例如:即便有韓國的前例,中國對斯里蘭卡的投資顯然也是令人驚艷的拙劣。
WB或IMF提供的贷款,也全都没跟亚投行报告呀?人家又不是上下级关系。。。各国的投资本来就没有义务报告给WB或IMF。
另外,提供腐败便利和增强全球实力并不冲突,美国就是典型的例子。
為何中國對斯國的借貸是債務陷阱?這可以分幾個層面來說明。
首先,斯國特別喜歡向中國借錢,即便借貸條件不好,斯國寡頭還是喜歡借。大家應該都知道,經濟困頓的國家要向國際組織(例如IMF)借錢,通常都會附帶財務撙節與反貪腐的要求;但是斯國寡頭向中國借錢,就不需要進行法律改革或經濟重整;另外中國一帶一路是選擇在斯國寡頭的地盤─南斯里蘭卡進行建設,有利於斯國政治寡頭的政治與家族利益,這都導致斯國傾向與中國借錢。
再者,斯國財政的中國債務雖然只是該國國債的第二名(10%),第一名是日本(11%);但是向中國借債的平均利率是高達3.3%,而日本則僅有0.7%;對中國的欠債平均還款年限只有18年,而日本的債券到期日平均是34年;以斯國還不起錢而慘遭接收的南部重要戰略港口──漢班托塔港為例,中國放貸的利率是6.3%,另外在新近疫情期間,中國對斯的放款條件也益加嚴格,例如2020年北京也曾透過中國國家開發銀行(CDB)向斯里蘭卡發出10億美元的特殊借貸,但利率聽說高於5.25%、還款年限則只有10年。
整體來說,中國對斯國的借貸方式,就像是地下錢莊或高利貸,高利貸把錢借給擺明還不出錢的人,然後等債務到期後,開始逼債或接收資產,而債務人不會因為借錢而讓自己的經濟條件轉好,反而因為中國的錢好借(至少過去是這樣,這幾個月才變困難),所以從中國那邊就借更多,這就是標準飲鴆止渴的借錢模式。
要說這不是債務陷阱,那請問甚麼才算是債務陷阱呢?
或許是如此:西方國家不願意借錢給貪汙政府。中國願意花錢向貪汙政府買特許權利。地球上有很多貪汙政府,中國成功買到某些國家的特權,是可預期的。貪汙政府被中國支持,而延續政權,多數人民壞處多於好處。
真是扯淡,欠西方国家9成的啥都没有建成,对民众就是好的,欠中国1成的就成了债务陷阱,有人逼你借钱吗,真是搞笑死了,为了黑中国无所不用其极
@@naturoj 斯国毁于人民,如果一个国家的人民道德败坏,民主肯定不会给他们带来幸福,而独裁更加使他们的生活环境变成地狱。
@@naturoj 你们不是说民主选举可以通过党派之间相互监督来消除贪污腐败吗?斯里兰卡也搞西式民主选举,为什么你们要说人家的政府是贪污政府?就因为人家说发展中国家?
@@ad-ff2uf 如果人家寫的內容對你太艱澀,不用勉強硬要回覆。
其实可能就两个
1.是债务陷阱,通过债务来控制这些发展中国家。但是呢,这些国家又不是铁杆,随时会反水。
2.大概率就是第二种可能,其实就没想过债务陷阱,是嘻嘻屁的面子工程。夹带很多中饱私囊,然后只要这些国家在一些问题上帮着说话就行(比如64 气功 HK)反正钱是纳税人的不心疼乱花。
这个事情以前有过,老毛在的时候自己都吃不饱,还援助非洲
老外呢是过度解读,现在最怕说着说着变真的。
比如俄罗斯就因为乌克兰要加入北约,说着说着变真的了,然后打了人家,结果把芬兰和瑞典搞进北约了。
@李源清
黄四郎没有想那么多,只想着有恒产有恒心!
奈何黄四郎 马三郎 李六郎.....都是打工仔,都是韭菜
现在连韭菜根都要挖,黄四郎只想逃
既然这样G7为什么要筹款7000亿美金来跟进哪。你个烧饼。你是想说G7的自由世界也都是大撒币嘛,哈哈哈哈
@@万里风翔 @万里风翔
不一样的 老外和老共有区别。老外说到一定做到!但是很慢 很慢 很慢 ........比如老美修个桥各种听证会。老共说话全是放屁,从来不守信用,但只要是面子上的,不管花多少钱,效率奇高!你也说了G7钱是筹的,8字还没一撇呢,老共不一样纳税人的钱花起来那叫一个舒坦。
你不了解嘻嘻屁,这100多年干了啥好事,三反五反 反左反右 上山下乡 大炼钢 放卫星 大跃进 三年大饥荒 文化大革命........操蛋的事情少了吗? 你这年龄肯定经历过大洪水 64 气功 HK 吃蝙蝠中病毒...........消停过吗?
以美国为首的西方世界从来都不是什么好鸟,跟嘻嘻屁比差远了。
我说得是吧 煎饼
咱就别再外面丢脸了 你叫我烧饼 我非要回个煎饼 可见我们的思维模式还停留在斗人阶段
老外也是为了大家着想 万一哪天来个文革2.0 出个叶文洁 呼叫三体 岂不是地球不保 与刁近干的全球命运共同体不符 也无法完成“英特耐尔熊伟大事业”
感謝您認同這報導
那請問BBC說中國新疆人被中國政府虐待也是假新聞麼😂😂😂
1. 斯里兰卡现在的经济状况,主要是国内的家族政权长期腐败,近年的巨大错误政策(如禁止肥料进口)触发的。
2. 中国一带一路对他国没有信用评估、偿还能力、经济规划等,导致失败的投资项目和债务
3. 中国一向有官商勾结的做法,碰上斯里兰卡这种政府立即可以输出自己的生意思维,促成大批大白象工程落地
4. 中国成为最大的债权国,又要求不合理的违约补偿。实际上就制造了债务陷阱。
如何界定违约补偿是否合理呢?
最大债权国是西方国家。
算公允。欠中国钱的国家可多了,中国政府没法开这个口子。
不過有件事還是現實的 就算中國有什麼算盤 欠債還錢天經地義 而且說真的 除了中國 真的有其他國家願意借嗎? 這好像也是一個問題耶...
當然是這樣,不過中國刻意用金錢去引誘開發中國家的貪污政客,其心可議。
@Erik TONG 那为什么加入了 RCEP ?
那 为什么 拜登和欧盟要效仿 一带一路搞全球基建??? 这么现实的问题你来解释解释?
@@双料特工不喝鸡汤 看中國不爽啊,這種劣質手段我們來作會更優雅,不會吃相難看。
你知道為甚麼只有中國借嗎
10% is ' debt trap ', what do you call the rest of 90% ? A LIFE SAVIOR ?
如果不是債務陷阱
那斯里蘭卡人民是抗議個平安喜樂的嗎
主要问题是人民太穷 中国也没帮助解决人民穷的问题 日韩人民富了让美国驻军都没事
借个钱给别人还要帮别人全家发财?那我也去借一份
你都不知道当地人抗议的是什么。麻烦好好学下英语开开眼界。
当地人抗议的主要目标就是他们的总统兄弟,前民族英雄,现腐败愚蠢的高官。
要我说,就是军人治国失败,运气又差。
@@xcjkffjiojwefonxcn 亚非拉国家表示美国爸爸没管我。说得像世界上所有国家美国都能帮助似的,美国帮不了还不让中国帮?
這個新聞不是這個意思
他的意思是
中國確實意圖皆由這些擴充影響力和得到了那些港口
但是基於斯里蘭卡的貪腐問題
中國得到的大部分是沒有任何作用的大白象工程
沒有實際作用,也發揮不了任何作用
幾乎沒有任何有價值的資產
就是說白了,其實是在嘲笑中國愚蠢
投資的錢大部分都進了中國和斯里蘭卡的貪官手中
這些錢,斯里蘭卡肯定是還不回來的
而最後可以是拖垮中國經濟的,成爲中國自己的埋葬自己經濟的陷阱
Very disappointed with this shallow analysis from a Newsnight editor.
Even at personal level, any individual applying for a big bank loan is subject to overall assessment of his whole portfolio, not just the single item on the application.
The BBC man touched a number of infrastructure items built by China. Are these on commercial loan basis or international development assistance basis? Are these other projects in arrear?
Of the many debtors, why Sri Lanka chose to let China colonize the port? What about the 92% of foreign debt? Has Sri Lanka reached similar arrangement with the other debtors?
Some comments above, written in Chinese, brought out strong valid analogy: knowing that the borrower is a stupid gambler, yet the debtor is generous to give out a big loan which has no reasonable repayment plan etc. If this is not debt trap, then BBC should cite another example.
Mr Chu asked the Sri Lankans (the borrowing gambler) if this is a debt trap and accepts the answer NO at face value.
Where has the investigative spirit of Newsnight gone? How can the Chief Editor in BBC approve such 1/8 baked project to be aired under the Newsnight flagship brand?
中资賄賂政客,把贪腐带给人家,养肥贪官害人民
This commentator never mentioned about the Chinese built highway between the Airport & Colombo, a highway he could never miss because that would the the first road to get onto first thing out of the airport.
What it used to take over an hour, now down to 15 minutes.
You are nitpicking. You raise accusations out of no base. China is not the largest loan owner. Why are you so hostile against China's investment instead of others?
Why do you describe Sri Lankans building the port as "... let China colonize the port"? How? Just because the Sri Lankans look for the investment from China through the international business market? If the investment coming from UK, Portugal, or Netherlands, does it mean that the Europeans come back to colonize Sri Lanka again? And if so, is it better for you to swallow?
@@arhq The more the west smearing the Belt & Road projects, reflecting how successful it is. What else could they do other than month jobs?
Just look at the laughable G7 month jobs with $500B from the most supposedly "richest" nations while, B&R is already worth $4Trillions. The G7 meetings ended with no specific goals; with no specific beneficiaries; no specific contributors; merely hollow talks.
The "putting words into mouths or others" don't work anymore. Stuffing their values and apply their "truths" on others are just typical tactics been used by the West for the last 50 years. Freedom blah, democracy blah, human rights blah blah blah.
@@arhq exactly as you said, china is not the only one lending money to sri lanka. this bbc report did not bother to find out the status of these other loans and, more importantly, whether other assets were seized by loaning institutions for non payment. so it seems this port project was the only one with such strings attached. the fact is that China has taken control of the port for 99 years. tell me another commercial pursuit with the same fate. that's why I consider this a colonization effort to take away a part of sri lanka for 99 years.
西方媒体在处理斯里兰卡债务问题时忽视了两个基本事实:债务的构成和债务的真正原因。在斯里兰卡外债中,中国占据的份额只有10%,西方金融机构(包括私人信贷市场)及其盟友日本持有斯里兰卡大部分债务。国际资本市场借款占47%,亚洲开发银行13%,中国10%,日本10%,世界银行9%, 印度2%,其他9%。只要简单看看这些通常被忽视或掩盖的事实就会发现,真正的罪魁祸首是那些编造“中国债务陷阱”说法的西方国家。
不是单看钱占的比例,要看实际投资的内容以及索要的条件。
中國一帶一路項目的借款有很大一部份都是左手借出去,右手又收了回來,實際執行建設的都是中國的國企,所以等於借款國跟中國借了錢,轉手就又要再支付給中國人,不只沒有為當地創造就業機會,反而平白增加債務負擔而已,
針對這些窮苦國家,全世界的債權國幾乎只有中國是這麼幹的好嗎。
斯里蘭卡建設中支共有35%直接投資,還有港口抵掉80億美元可差不多是債務的20%了,更不用說所謂基建都是一帶一路弄出來的
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@@holmessharock4180 斯里蘭卡破產誰害的?難道是一帶一路害的?
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BBC 請再做一集,最大分外債,一共65%的市場資金,包括世銀和其他地方的借貸資金又在斯里蘭下做了些什麼?建了些什麼?這才清楚知道他們外債運用出現了什麼問題,多過一半的外債,借來做了些什麼?
中国贷款好歹还有大量的基础设施留下来,看得见摸得着更搬不走,当地人能使用几十年;而欧美日的贷款呢,最后屁都没剩下,除了造成更加猖狂的腐败和更加潦倒的民生。
哈哈,怎么没有回复了
因為太容易借到錢, 讓原本就貧窮的人陷入更深的漩渦中.
當然不能只怪中國, 最惡劣的是不斷擴大需求, 期望從中獲利的政客.
不是借钱的问题。疫情原因旅游业占比国家外汇太高导致疫情旅游业减少。俄乌战争导致进口的能源粮食价格上涨导致通膨。没有收入物价又上涨。还要还利息能不破产吗?
斯里兰卡借美日得钱更多
日本借给他们更多
如果不是里应外合钱坤大挪移,就是中共处理钱财太随便。
中国免除非洲17国共23笔无息贷款
发布 / 2022年8月20日
中国国务委员兼外长王毅星期四(8月18日)宣布,将免除非洲17国对华23笔无息贷款,并承诺继续通过融资等方式资助非洲基础设施建设。
終於見到清醒的台灣人了,和你們說件事,台灣教科書直接將中共的一帶一路政策寫作債務陷阱,所以台灣年輕人腦袋有洞真的不能只怪他們。
Is there cheating? Is there a hidden clause? Is there any compulsion? If no. Those who make decisions to borrow should be adults with sufficient cognitive ability.
When Sri Lanka is in trouble, USA and UK pretend not to see. China has been branded a "debt trap" without standing idly by. How shameless! Should everyone stand idly by when you're in trouble, and blame anyone who reaches out?
這和雷曼推銷各種高技巧的財務產品給一羣對投資風險沒認識的人一樣,「這斯里蘭卡人的困難就要由斯里蘭卡自己去解決!」🤷多麼瀟洒的一句話!
可以借我点钱吗?不需要抵押的那种?
@耳耳 三胎 大家都要生三胎 才好多卖些房子
@Erik TONG 哈哈哈哈哈,所以一个国家的智囊团的智商就是小学生是吧
西方媒体真的太狭隘了~一带一路的目的是发展沿线国家的经济。因为大都是中低收入国家,提升他们的实力是绝对有助于中国的产品走向世界的。海盗文明第一时间想的是抢夺~农耕文明想的是建设!基础设施足够了 经济自然就会起步!就像开垦荒地一样,撒完种子自然会发芽结果~ 西方人一直盯着种子是贷款,却不想没有种子这个国家就活不下去!
@Erik TONG ERIK.桶先生 哈哈哈哈哈哈
中國沒有在斯里蘭卡製造債務陷阱,問題出在斯里蘭卡政府,然而中國取得了斯里蘭卡港口長期租約。馬來西亞前總理馬哈地則取消了部分,前任政府與中國達成的融資鐵路建設。馬哈地批評斯里蘭卡沒有足夠的硬貨幣支付貸款
債權人沒審核清楚項目是否大白象能否有能力還款便借出去? 從建築材料到建築工人借款的又一定要用債權人自己國家的而不能自己決定,扺押條款又竟然是港口的99年使用權。
@shek Tong 关键是欧美白人有过去盖吗?人家奥巴马都说清楚了,他们20%的白人享受现代化就行了,你们有色人种80%还是继续承担代价,输出廉价的生产力,商品,矿产。。。建码头,通铁路,高速网,学校,医院,产业园,工业园这些你们就洗洗睡。现在中国过去港口盖好了,医院盖好了,学校,机场,会展中心,甚至是一个临海新区!说中国人居心不良?要人家港口99年使用权,那英国人在10年前怎么不去做呢?
@shek Tong 做过生意吗?一条新的街上要开一家店,起码头三年都是没生意的。港口这种资产,头三十年都没生意都有可能,这里的风险就不去考虑了?等于光顾着别人吃肉,挨打的时候就看不见了。就看到现在建成的资产,看不到与对方决策者的沟通,建设规划。工程设计,工程施工这些阶段承担了多少成本?即便现在建成了,每年的养护保养成本又有多少!?别张口就来,要独立思考
@shek Tong 这个水库的事,我不清楚,所以我无法给您回答。我能确定一点,按着中国国内的工程法相关要求,这个工程商肯定会找出原因并予以修复的。不要动不动就豆腐渣,工程质量事故的产生原因非常多的。
@shek Tong 韩国在老挝承建的大坝,老挝东南部阿速坡省的Xepian-XeNamNoy水电站大坝发生了坍塌,大坝在这几年当中已经蓄满了许多水,在坍塌那一刻释放了超过50亿立方的水。
@shek Tong 根据自由电台乌兹别克斯坦语服务,乌兹别克斯坦水库建设的垄断者是参议员阿卜杜加尼·桑吉诺夫。他的公司 Tupalang-Hydro Qurilish LLC 是 Sardoba 水库的分包商,而主要的建筑承包商是乌兹别克斯坦 Temir Yullari JSC。
“2017 年,现任第一副总理 Achilbay Ramatov 接受了 Sardoba 水库的投产,他当时担任乌兹别克斯坦 Temir Yollari JSC 的负责人。拉马托夫的名字与乌兹别克斯坦所有大型设施的建设有关,”一位对萨尔多巴水库的建设有直接态度的官员说。
有意思,只有台媒报道是大陆承建的,笑死人!!!!!!
這篇報導無疑是忽略大量當地人民實際需求和該國債務高築的現實。
I can't believe Führer Xitler is clever enough to design a Debt trap like this. After all he is just a 840 month-old wayzward baby.
那你自己的看法呢
你是當地居民ㄇ
還是政府高官
怎麼知道什麼樣是人民實際需求
@@thomasho6390 當地現在糧食、醫藥都沒有能力再進口,然後你問怎麼知道人民實際需求,你是不是邏輯不好!? 還是用大腦思考對你來說太困難了!?
@@holmessharock4180不然這樣說好了 現在總統是如何被推舉上去的 還有當初人民的需求是啥 可以去了解一夏 你在發言會更妥當
@@holmessharock4180 還有給句中故 雖說是匿名發言 但也請你注意一夏用詞 保留點口德是基本素質 我是不知道我腦袋好不好啦 但我覺得你可能很缺愛八 討論事也可以人身攻擊
是在現實被嘴太慘? 如果是 那好吧 加油! 你可以的 別氣餒 只不過要記得刷牙喔>
As a Chinese living outside mainland China, the longer I stay overseas, I more I wish the Western to continue labelling China as being evil and horrible. Fools are always gonna remain fool. There is no need to waste the energy and effort to enlighten them. On the contrast, educating people who choose to be belind is a pointless and stupid action anyways. Let people believe what they believe and so be it. At the end of the day, quality of living will prove itself. People should have the rights to be poor and live their life in poverty. At least, they have democracy.
🤬🤬所以呢,大部分人都在勞碌工作在網上發言的是少數還包括水軍和小學生。你自己以為的是你自己的事,請你一輩子離中國遠遠的
@@yuki6262 of course he wili, he loves liberty and freedom unlike those kept-pets, starving ones....
多謝你們的服務, 努力和旁述
作为一个上海人,我们小时候被教育多讨厌“租界”以后国际上一带一路的国家就有多讨厌中国。他们不会感激你建设的有多好,只会记得“所谓的华人与狗不得入内”还有“丧国辱权”。自己搬石头砸自己脚而已。清政府腐败,民国腐败。
2019在斯里蘭卡旅行。導遊说中國政府偷取他們的國產,对中國在斯的建設十分不滿。
豆腐渣偷工減料工程不要也罷,得利後胡作非為就是某個臭雞巴國家幹的出的事!還有臉揚言大善造福,不被矇蔽的才知道是大惡造孽
请问这样一个穷国有什么能偷?
中国必然有所图,不然就是傻。
显然不是傻,而是想要获取地区影响力、面子,可惜做不到,毕竟他们不像中国人容易被收买,并且政府还会不停换人。
就是看多了逼逼虚这样的媒体~
不能全信,据我所知他们本身的政府就不干净。
其實是斯里蘭卡與中國官員聯手坑中國政府的錢,中國政府發現被坑了,對方沒錢還只好拿東西來抵,卻發現這東西拿了還要花大錢然後也不見的可用,不拿則明顯虧了一屁股!
一帶一路在中國特殊政治環境的操作下,因為國營企業對投資的理念異於民營企業,形成經濟上雙輸之局的風險很大,但從政治上來說,政客得靠這種關係來升官發財呀!
要么是中国债务陷阱,要么是中国政府大蠢蛋给人家送钱,这个逻辑挺牛逼的。
这种问题刀不至于那么担心中国政府亏,他们运营给国有企业长期持股盘活的方式多了
中国普遍是不怕做错事,就怕不做事。即使斯里兰卡的case失败了,也不会动摇中共推一带一路的决心。
当初中国扶持太阳能跟电动车的时候,你都不知道乱成什么样,各种骗国家补贴的层出不穷。可最后中国还是在这方面获得了世界领先的优势。这就是中国大,输的起,一百个项目成功一个,都值。
一针见血!本质就是这样:中国官员、央企和银行高管联手坑中国的钱,最终的烂账由全体中国人民买单!
然后G7这次大谈特谈全球基建投资,大概是他们突然良心发现了吧。
5:45`half of lending to developing countries not reported to the world bank nor IMP`...World bank and IMP are organisations that sounds like international organisations but actually controlled by US governament. It makes sense none of lending is reported. The question is why there are half of lending reported to those organisations?
Because such countries that need to be responsible for the global debt crisis are not themselves responsible for any of it. 2010 post European debt crisis Europe is also facing serious debt problems, in East Asia South Korea's resident debt to GDP ratio has been as high as 104.3%, and Japan even up to 226%, their figures are even more terrible, and the amount are far greater than Sri Lanka. The trigger of this round of world economic crisis is due to the impact of COVID-19 on the U.S. economy, the Federal Reserve in 2020 to start a new round of extraordinary monetary easing, the focus of the Federal Reserve's monetary policy objectives from "price stability" to "all to economic growth as the priority ", the global market in a short period of time a huge inflow of dollars, directly pushed up the global price level, resulting in rising prices, while a large number of developing countries have not yet completed industrialization of their own foreign exchange reserves are tight, which will lead to a large number of dollars out of these countries. And this year since the Federal Reserve in order to suppress the excessive price level, decided to raise interest rates directly led to the global dollar assets back to the United States, all countries in the world in addition to the United States was forced to accept the devaluation of assets, the most serious losses of countries and regions, namely the European Union, Japan, South Korea, and China. The euro exchange rate has depreciated to 1 to 1 with the dollar, the yen has depreciated by 20% to its lowest level in nearly 20 years, and China has depreciated by 8%. Why China? Because China is the world's major exporter of goods and the world's main target country for investment, and the loss of assets has a great impact on China. This worldwide debt crisis of developing countries is essentially a transfer of the crisis from the United States to the world through its absolute advantage in the financial sector. Only the developed regions can make up for the lost dollars through industrial exports, while countries like Sri Lanka, which rely on low-end manufacturing and agriculture, don't have enough dollar reserves so they will be the first to go bankrupt.
所以 某种程度上说,美国在吸全世界的血,一些国家坚持不住的,加上疫情冲击下,就像斯里兰卡就破产了。而更多国家在争扎的边缘
重點是沒數入, 不是欠債多,有現金流都不會死... 其實因為俄烏戰爭及疫情,沒了旅客又沒有出口,沒有外匯收入,買不到石油...,只係以前有工開,其他人肯借新債給佢,現在大家都怕才不借..
I dont see any answer from the 3 minute report. Where did the investment money go? The Chinese embassador said the funds are all transparent to the public. The Sri Lankan government said at least one $1B fund was not reported. So who is right and who is wrong?
BBC is the shame of human.
笑死 怎麼可能是債務陷阱呢?就像上海都是人民自主防疫隔離兩個月 怎麼會是封城呢? 中國人講的話當然是真的
KIZAWA
7分钟前
笑死 怎麼可能是債務陷阱呢?
就像KIZAWA是感染艾滋自主隔離兩個月
怎麼會封口呢?
中國人講的話當然是真的!
@@草草-c7i 笑死 怎麼可能是債務陷阱呢?
就像"屎進瓶" 是感染艾滋自主隔離兩個月
怎麼會封口呢?
中國人講的話當然是真的!
没钱买房子,找银行去贷款,买到手住了进去。之后发现没钱还贷款了,面临着债务违约,反过来指责银行让我陷入“债务陷阱”。这个逻辑,真的很棒。
@Y Chen 在你反省过自己审视借贷人的还款能力这点做的不足后,你还要不要他还呢?
Ha ha ha ,,, u are right!
@@jingli4379 問題是你反省過後嗎?是在你放貸之前吧!
所以放貸以後發現借貸者無力償還,縱使催收也追不回來,這就是你放貸方自己要承受的問題。放貸的首要條件就是借貸方有充分抵押,沒有抵押你是哪來的膽子敢放款?
所以反省甚麼?要不回來就是全中國的百姓自己吞啊!你當然是找黨中央反省去,難不成派三航母去斯里蘭卡把東西當炸光?
@@fatbearno5 大陆没有破产概念,有破产概念就不敢乱放贷了。
@@光光-s8s 問題就在這了。
放貸這是資本主義市場經濟下的產物。搞社會主義不懂財產私有權的概念,跑出來跟人家攪和甚麼放貸呢?
我借你錢,結果你當老賴。我卻因此背債失信。一開始我就有財物私有的思想準備,你萬一當了老賴我會血本無歸。誰還敢隨便借貸放款?
所以大陸就該走私有制。不然哪天被敗光身家,全體老百姓管你本來是不是韭菜都被強制韭菜。到時候來理解破產概念會比較好嗎?
If a county trap into a "debt" and being pursued by their creditors, which means she hasn't borrowed enough money. Because if she does, she should have enough bargaining power against creditors.
unless the creditor nation is a military giant who can simply take over your nation if you default?
BBC難得如此客觀公正的報導呀!
你看看BBC报道阿富汗塔利班执政一年那期,那味儿又来了
@@HarukiSeven 😅😅😅
Thanks
不同于个人,对于国家来说,还不上就还不上了,中国也没有什么强制的执行手段。有些国家愿意的话,可以主动给些资源(很多时候还是高溢价,因为如果价格合适就不用来抵债了),不愿意就不还了,之后再进行债务重组。
总体来说,中国国资背景的投资只能获得一些国家有限的在国际事务上的支持,并不能控制这些国家。
想得太簡單了。。中國共產黨是看中是海港或土地。。。背後要拿什麼來低債這是時間上的問題。。
@@jason19782000 全篇这么长,你没看吗?别整天满嘴CCP,国际关系的决策或者战略有时候就是被时代推着往前走,背后你所想象的算计和谋略,在实操层面根本不现实,也只有美国这种不要脸的国家,会到处威胁包括盟友在内的主权国家并且制造谎言,大肆传播
@@jason19782000 长远来看,中共在某些国家的投资可能有这样的愿望,但正如本节目中所说,可能有很大一部分的投资并没有这样的目的性,我更倾向于一楼所说的,主要目的还是换取相关国家在部分国际事务上的支持,这和台湾以前一直有的金元外交在本质上没有什么不同。
中资賄賂政客,打贪腐带给人家,养肥贪官害人民
いつでも可愛いさとみくんが尊いことは
www.youtubemmm.com/watch?v=0d2ETvnRNSR
ガンマンが出たら、新しいブロックが出るようになることが分かりましたね!
Although the loans from China are not as high as those international loans but many of the infrastructure are built to be built not built to be use. Then the county is force to repaid or give up ownership.
有人借錢發展該偷著樂了,現實中想借錢開店不是熟人根本不會借給你。
Thanks for your investigation and report.
其实就是自由贸易,你情我愿。
中国提供的贷款利息比亚投行等的低,但一方面中国也能输出过剩产能。
是双赢的局面。
几十年前欧美也是这样用高科技的投资和中国自由贸易,带动了中国的繁荣。
今天中国也将如此做,用基建的 投资。
要不香港人集资借他们?
@HK ACAB 我不是那种人。
a too simple, sometimes naive report. How are you so sure Chinese navy won't use the container port 10 years later even they are not using it now?
This is a philosophy question
how are you so sure that 10 years later you will still stick to your point of view?
The Sri Lanka today is the Sri Lanka today because they obviously ignore what their people actually need! The people don’t need expensive infrastructures! What they need is to increase their products on export and decrease the products that needs to be imported. Yet the Sri Lanka government does the opposite, and building some useless infrastructures.
The reason for Sri Lanka to go bankrupt is not China - even though I also don’t like the Chinese government, I don’t like how the western media is trying to flame China either.
西里塞納當年當選斯里蘭卡總統,隨後宣布擱置中國企業正在承建的科倫坡港口城項目,並且以涉嫌腐敗為理由,重新審查中國在斯里蘭卡的其他投資項目。
走近邪惡軸心的西方國家又什麼好下場?😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬
疫情期间旅游业会停,但港口不会停,它们废止了一个可以获得外汇收入的项目。
只要暖化持續 海水再上升一點 斯里蘭卡的債務再也不是問題了
我覺得就像一般人一樣
當收入不夠高的時候 , 過多取債是無法負擔的
目的其实很清晰、用债务换取资源开采权 10年 20年 这就是一带一路的玩法 债务殖民 债务结盟
如果你这么理解,那所有的跨国公司都是殖民。
斯里兰卡最大的债权人是西方国家 不准你说西方是债务殖民!
👍
@@ichachari 那要看他有没有拿地皮 拿资源开采
@@九方名座 那要看他有没有拿地皮 拿资源开采
So the ambassador’s argument is , what ever you say, I’ll just say the opposite conclusion, not offering any evidence, just say the opposite. And you just take my word as truth.
I don't believe that the Chinese ambassador says nothing but conclusions without any evidence.
This is a formal interview, and the topic of "China's debt trap" is not the first time. The Chinese ambassador will certainly have enough data to refute this topic. For example, the debt scale and proportion of other countries, how to query the specific purpose of the loan, and so on.
But this video only intercepted the ambassador's conclusion.
If I were a reporter and faced with an ambassador who only said the conclusion, no evidence for , I would ask: "where is the evidence?", Then I had an embarrassing vlog that the ambassador could not provide evidence.
Why didn't he do it?
Obviously, the ambassador gave the evidence, but he didn't want to publish it.
It's willing buyers and sellers.
In actual fact China did deliver tangible structures as promised, and as any loan goes, there is collateral. True that China is trying to grow its political footprint global as every nation of its size and capability would (just rewind 50 years and you will discover the same). Sri Lankans gov are no dumb people but just how greedy they are.
中國給的是機會,利息高就應該更努力做來還債,一旦貪污國家就會完蛋。
确实,单纯的就是靠投资想赚点钱,顺便提供一些发展机会,政府贪污就没辙了。
@齐小儒 不止,有些小银行年化可以打到7 8个左右。
@齐小儒 年利率2%那和送钱有什么区别,银行定期都有百分3-4%的利息。银行贷款就没有低于8%的
@@韩鹏-r9b 中国对这些国家的贷款基本都是低息或者无息贷款,而且有很大一部分本金都收不回来,前几天还有新闻报道,免除了非洲一些国家的贷款。
*Debt trap *- The white men's lie about Sri Lanka
However, loans from China accounted for only about 10 per cent of Sri Lanka’s total foreign debt in 2020. The largest portion - about 30 per cent - can be attributed to international sovereign bonds. Japan actually accounts for a higher proportion of their foreign debt, at 11 per cent.
Defaults over China’s infrastructure-related loans to Sri Lanka, especially the financing of the Hambantota port, are being cited as factors contributing to the crisis.
But these facts don’t add up. The construction of the Hambantota port was financed by the Chinese Exim Bank. The port was running losses, so Sri Lanka leased out the port for 99 years to the Chinese Merchant’s Group, which paid Sri Lanka US$1.12 billion.
So the Hambantota port fiasco did not lead to a balance of payments crisis (where more money or exports are going out than coming in), it actually bolstered Sri Lanka’s foreign exchange reserves by US$1.12 billion.
So, what are the real reasons for the crisis?
From the few numbers given it clearly showed that the debt trap which Sri Lanka is suffering is not from loans from China.
China's loan accounts for only 10% of the total debt of Sri Lankan.
*Japan's loan to Sri Lanka is more than China at 11%, why no one calls it a debt trap?* Mischievous agenda from the Americans is the reason.
They lied and spread disinformation to smear China without telling the real numbers.
If debt to China is only 10%, Japan 11%, then the bulk of the debt, the real debt trap of 79% came from where? It is the IMF, the biggest creditor of Sri Lanka, the organisation that is causing all the woes of the Sri Lankans.
This is another perfect example of the treacherous Americans pointing fingers, making wild allegations when they are the real culprits.
Sri Lanka's debt trap is caused by loans from the IMF.
What about the infamous lie of debt trap caused by the Hambantota Port?
Yes, Sri Lanka took a big loan from China's Exim Bank and unable to pay back the loan. But Sri Lanka turned it into a revenue by leasing the port to China and was paid US$1.12 billion for it.
Where is the debt, where is the debt trap when it is a plus for Sri Lanka?
Why the evil Americans still spreading this lie of debt trap because of the port?
Why don't the Americans admit that the debt trap came from the IMF, an American controlled organisation?
請問,您會借大量的金錢給平日信用不好、或者他有可能會還不出錢的人嗎?
但他名下有地有房,可以抵押🤣
1,中国是贸易顺差国,手里有大量美元花不出去,一部分是用来投美债,剩下大量的美元的攒在手里只会加大风险,不如贷款给需要资金的国家,就算有风险也比拿在手里风险低。
2,中国本来就是基建狂魔,也有大量的基建相关产业产能过剩,找个机会把溢出的产能向外释放何乐而不为?
3,中国就是靠基建发展起来的,深知基建对经济发展的重要性,合作国家因基建而发展,中国得到贷款收益且能在当地产生一定影响力,是双赢。
4,斯里兰卡的旅游业是命脉,因为疫情导致贷款偿还不力,是个意外,阴谋论的真不至于。
There's no solution for developing countries. They need good leaders. But good leaders are rare commodities for any nation, including China in particular.
But in China you can train to be a good leader start from small city provence. They got a system of government
@@WinTeRzZ47
The Communists suck.
Sri Lanka's economy relies almost 100% on Tourism, and during the 3 years of Covid travel shut down. It's not difficult to imagine the difficult situation they are dealing with now...
The president of the country should talk to other wealthy country and sell few of the islands or lease them for 100 years!!!
Surpassing China, India has become the largest bilateral lender to Sri Lanka by disbursing a total of $968 million in loans in four months of 2022, according to a media report.
This 7 minutes reviews on Sri Lanka current economic situation can only show part of the reality of its society, at least BBC has put effort to show the world what is going on.
無論如何,沒人會想到要以白象項目或是爛尾過程收場,且行且看吧。
謝謝分享,辛苦了。
说的好像你很了解一样,你问问英国佬以前在印度斯里兰卡的殖民和杀戮吧,共产党当然有所求,也有付出
@@wanggangwanggang
你說的沒錯,因為不了解,所以才想看的更多,更仔細,盡量朝真相的方向了解
英殖歷史確實有不光彩的一面,同時也有可取的一面,那麼我把話送回給你,中共上世紀在中國的豐功偉績,做過批判嗎,曾經為錯了的事情道歉嗎?
最起碼二戰罪魁德國曾向戰俘跪歉,中共呢?
@Suby Lai
或許這是英國與美國媒體的不同之處吧
英國廣播的方向會發現,對於確鑿的事情是不留餘力的揭開,而像這樣的事件他們也只能旁敲側擊地尋找答案
就“一帶一路使得斯里蘭卡成為負債國”一說,真的只能靠時間來證明了。
不,實際上中國在非洲的投資很多都變成了援建--所謂虱子多了不咬,這點國内都看習慣了……
@Zhimin Yang
欸,彎彎一詞是你意淫而說的吧
反正你說的井口,比起你需要翻牆來看外邊世界來得大🤔
我在这里生活多年,我来告诉你们他们为什么会有经济危机。
首先,他们不会包装有些本土产品,去出口到国外。有点名气的只有红茶和宝石。这在经济危机下都是可有可无的东西,并不是什么必需品。
其次,这边没有天然气,汽油,柴油,和液化气。这些都靠进口。如果没有疫情,平时靠国外游客旅游,增长经济,还有信贷可以进口。一旦出现经济危机,自然其他国家就不愿意出口到兰卡,怕他们欠债还不上。能源短缺导致通货膨胀,经济危机出现。
最后,这边人大多好吃懒做,没有信用。做生意最讲究的就是诚信。反复无常是外资不愿意来投资的原因。即使现在坐吃山空,也不谋求发展,等着其他国家资助。不去寻找问题的根源以谋求解决之道,还在不断内耗斗争。
活该穷。可怜之人必有可恨之处。
這也是台商撤離中國的原因 50步笑百步
@@BeardieForTheWin 狗屎話?
@@BeardieForTheWin 傻蛋
@@BeardieForTheWin 台商在这边前些年都是压榨劳动力
@@shiwangqin3810 有人被說中囉xD
Investment is a perception. When China started different projects without increasing the growth of GDP, other investors would wait and see whether those projects could bring financial benefits. A country making money can be tourism, productivity, and internal consumption. It is not the case for Sri Lanka.
Sri Lanka 's creditors
The largest creditor is Japan.
The second largest creditor is ADB.
The third largest creditor is China.
Right, just sit there and lie.. anyone with half a brain can check both the IMF and World bank reports on Sri Lanka's debt. Why do you Western liars put out lies that can be fact checked so easily... sad and sorry excuse for a human being.
這就是高利貸業者跟銀行貸款的差別
BBC 只是探尋問题,是不是債務陷阱,關鍵是當Sri Lanka没有能力還债是,中國開的條件是怎樣?
看来一帶一路已有一個Pattern, 多個債務國看耒都沒有還錢的能力。问题又来,投资是希望回報,中國投放金錢在这些國家時,風險估計和回報是怎樣計算,甚麽是她要的最终回報?
千万不要以为自己比几十个国家的领导层更聪明😂️,但凡想一下……,要真有问题,现在还很多国家想加入我们还看不上呢,比如我们的邻居蒙古。
什麼時候回收海參威,是你們不願意回收嗎
再次完美展現 要看中國做了什麼 不要相信他們說了什麼 🤣
Once again, perfectly demonstrated. You should pay attention to what China has done, not believe what they say.
斯里蘭卡破產了,跟官員的腐敗,還有中國的債務,都有莫大的關係。
日本才是斯里兰卡最大债权国
@@liqin643 日本利率0.7%,中國平均利率3.3%,中國借漢班托塔港的利息甚至超過6.3%,你覺得誰才是造成破產的原因呢?
@@vvssinn 只看利率太偏颇!bbc报道中国债权是8%。而反过来看日本占20%,美国10%,日美加起来30%,你如何看?
@@vvssinn 再者,斯里兰卡国家债务合计约650亿美元,其中中国债权约64亿,日本130亿,美国65亿
@@liqin643 64×3.3跟130×0.7那個多啊?
這麼高的利息不是壓垮國家的原因?
所有的活動都是利益驅使的, 問題的重點是: 誰獲得利益 ? 中國會推出一帶一路, 除了擴張勢力, 也是想消化多餘的基建人力, 因此中國可以從 1. 虛高的工程價格 2. 中國基建工人的就業中獲利, 所以其他的考量可能都會被忽略 !
China: I didn't even think you would go bankrupt. How do I know what I want?
一个国家最核心的,发展引擎是什么?
没有法制?没有民主?没有每个公民一人一票的,积极参与?
只有一堆钢筋混凝土,能发激发社会每个层面,每个角落,每个人的创新精神?
没有创新,这种国家只能走向灭亡。
政府权力,不来源于公民的授权,不受公民上监督,不真正服务于公众,这种政府,最终将一事无成,并最终垮台。
现代国家,公民没有创新环境,没有的言论自由的权力,没有监督政府的权力,没参与政府政运作的权力,民众会被孤注一掷,竭尽全力地去为国家创新?
一个政权骑在民众的头上,自以为是,对民众不是打压就是威胁,他们会为有激情去为国家创新?
没有创新,这个国家,拿什么继续走下去?
坐在空空如也的,沒有灵魂的钢筋混凝土里,发痴吗?
一个城市,没有创新,就像没有灵魂,就是一座原始钢铁丛林,里面住着一群原始人。
生活因为创新,才能变得丰富多彩,国家因为创新,才能变得繁荣昌盛,人生因为创新,才能变得充满希望,爱情因为创新,才能变得很甜蜜美好。
没有创新,一个国家,一个社会,一个人,一切都会变得毫无意义。
一个国家发展的最核心,就是竭尽全力,尽其所能,为公民营造创新环境。
讓我們假設個小故事~
地主有一天對一個連養活自己都有困難的農民說:全村的男人都在娶媳婦了~你要不要我借你錢也去娶一個啊? 農民傻傻地允諾了於是用地主的錢下了聘請了席~吃完婚席後地主把農民叫到一旁說:我知道你還款多半還不上~不如這樣我先幫你照顧你媳婦~放心她會在我這學到很多新的東西你吃不了啥虧~然後農民就興高采烈地讓剛吃完酒席的媳婦跟著地主回去了~~之後逢人就說:你看看~咱也是有媳婦的人了~還有善良的地主幫我養著~這真是善良的地主啊~~
後注:連小粉紅都不信地主真是一片赤誠了反而意淫了後續故事...我還能說啥?你們還要我們這些受西方邪惡思想的人如何去相信地主的拳拳之心呢?而且誰跟你說地主代表誰了?你們難道在辱華?
你的比喻真几把扯淡,欠债还钱,天经地义,不管你什么理由,你借钱了,你就可以不还了吗?你介绍之前没有评估自己的还债能力吗?黑中国的人,逻辑真的神奇,连基本的道德,诚信,价值观都是扭曲的。
故事讲的不错,但是跟这件事没什么关系。这种问题在逻辑学上叫错误类比,说的难听点叫偷换概念
你这样比喻斯里兰卡,你觉得你礼貌吗
是在比喻西方殖民還是日本殖民呢? 難怪現在許多人把日據改成日治,真是綠色的農民。
這故事重點在於"地主""地主"肏他媽的"地主"~卻真實的刺痛到一些故事中地主心態之人
我觉得并不是中国企业有意制造所谓的债务陷阱,而是大部分有较强偿债能力的国家都早已在西方财团的掌控之下,中国企业无法分辨一杯羹,所以只能退而求其次的把目标放到斯里兰卡等穷国身上。
像斯里兰卡這種落後國家,跟中資貸款都是綑綁中企,借中國錢搞建設,條件要給中企承包、使用中國設備。而有较强偿债能力的国家,多不需要綁定中國產能輸出的貸款,本國的企業就能力,缺的是資金而已。
借錢給第三世界國家,賴帳、倒帳、投資被國有化打水瓢,這都是正常操作,歐美冷戰時代吃了一票虧學會教訓、風險控管,現在換中國教學費而已。
讚
中國駐斯里蘭卡大使會承認斯里蘭卡的破產是中國一帶一路害的嗎?用膝蓋想都知道,所以BBC這採訪報導立場是偏向中國的,至於中國官方有沒有介入BBC我個人傾向認為是有的
这个视频就是明褒暗贬,实际上就是在讽刺中国是债务陷阱,这是新闻手法里的一种方式,别真以为BBC会给中国说好话了,BBC早就被中国政府拉黑了,BBC是白左媒体,是代表安格鲁萨克逊人的利益的。
China debt from 2016 3% increase to 2022 10% and China need Sri Lanka vote in UN etc...
首先,西方政府和國際金融機構55%的貸款和捐款投入貧窮國家的衛生、教育和人道主義項目等社會項目,但中國近67%的貸款用於基礎建設。
在經濟低迷時期,收費公路、港口和發電廠收入減少,從而使項目本身更難產生償還貸款所需的收入。
中國貸款約7成投入窮國基礎建設
其次,由於中國的貸款通常以資源產生的收入為抵押擔保品,因此在經濟衰退期間違約風險會顯著上升,因為需求下降,通常會壓低大宗商品價格,這次除石油、天然氣以外,其它大宗物資價格近幾個月急跌,這進一步壓低窮國收入,更難償還債務。
Within the Asia-Pacific region covered by The Diplomat, just two countries voted against the resolution: Russia itself and North Korea. Ten countries abstained: Bangladesh, China, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Laos, Mongolia, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Tajikistan, and Vietnam. (Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan did not vote at all.)
大聪明,更好的基础建设难道不是为了民生?要想富先修路,能源结构不需要转型?更好更多的大到高速公路,高铁,机场、特高压电,水利;小到公园绿地,市政环卫设施多多益善,我们可不会天天给人递武器,砸十万亿美金去打仗。
@@seaoooo 整個新市鎮,金融城建設出來了,43% 是中國公司控製
Colombo Port City: A Chinese White Elephant as Sri Lanka Desperately Seeks India’s Help to Tide Over Economic Crisis
However, out of the 269 hectares of land, 43% or 116 hectares has been leased to CHEC, which is a subsidiary of the Chinese state-owned Chinese Communication and Construction Company (CCCC).
碼頭做出來了,大股東又是中國公司...
In July 2017, the agreement was signed, but CMPort was allowed a 70% stake. Simultaneously a 99-year lease on the port was granted to CMPort.
經濟效益將來會高過成本?國家一早破產了
你们可不会天天给人递武器, 但会天天做吸血鬼吸人家的血...
@@seaoooo
Sri Lanka 一帶一路後debt年年加,修路能源结构转型不是一步登天,要計算清楚慢慢來的,現在是未富先準備破産😂
Government debt
(Percentage of GDP)
2013 72%
2014 72%
2015 78%
2016 80%
2017 79%
2018 84%
2019 87%
2020 101%
别在这些上辩解了,强国都在用另一种方式扩展自己的势力、利益。
债务陷阱本来就是伪命题,只有接受国需要才能达成合作,这种合作本来就是双向的。英美自己也可以去做中国同样的合作,只是他们不愿意做但同时也不愿看到中国去做罢了,所以利用媒体优势炮制债务陷阱的论调就成为他们污蔑别国的把戏,他们更愿意用舰炮去打开别国的大门而不是靠贸易。
哦其实这个有帮到中国说话也,至少不再像之前我们想的那样严重
@@黛字书法 我也不是帮中国政府说话,我也不知道具体的合作细节,但至少中国愿意去最艰苦的地方和最穷的国家帮他们做基础项目,不像英美那样国家,特别虚伪,不但不做还对别人做的说三道四,真心希望他们也投身去帮助那些最穷的国家,这样那些国家就没有陷入陷阱的机会,让那些国家自己分析到底哪些国家对他们好,这样才是真实的。
@@pengfrank4331 没有啦我要表示的是内容没有标题里那么严重,就标题有点clickbait,我觉得西方国家有投资但是撤资,他们应该(也许)是判断能不能发展后才会继续帮助吧,像是巴西之前也是收到很多投资但是现在撤了就瞬间掉了,像马来西亚一样也是撤走了,虽然我的国家是政府作出来的😅,而且借钱他们可能考虑能不能还(我不知道,也许吧)
@@黛字书法 认同。西方投资完全看重的是能不能马上赚钱,很多穷国刚开始投资不可能马上就赚钱,很多地方路都没通,所以中国政府过去先帮他们做基础设施,但基础设施本生是不赚钱,肯定要和对方政府签订某种交换方式,这个只要是双方认可的第三方有什么可以说的。
@@pengfrank4331 中国也是国内产能过剩才搞出来的,反正搞基建的原料工人全都是自己人,再亏也是左手倒右手而已
很多人根本不理解中国为什么要赔本赚吆喝,为什么要到处投资花钱,我给你们解释解释。
由于中国是外贸出口型国家,出口额大于进口额。国内企业把商品卖到国外,对方支付的是美元。2021年中国贸易顺差大概6764亿美元,也就是国家每年手头上净增值多了6000多亿美元,一年就6000多亿,如果时间放大到5年10年,3-5万亿美元都在手里,这些巨量的美元放在手上很难再增值,所以这就是为什么中国要去购买美国国债,因为只有国债才能接这么大的盘子,全世界能接这么大盘子的也只有美国,而且美债信誉相对比较好,虽然有时候跟你不讲道理,但总体还算是守信誉的。不然美元都拿在手上靠中国内需是很难消化的了,因为你不可能在国内流通美元吧,所以对内你根本花不掉。
为什么一直加大对外投资力度,就是把手头上对内花不掉的钱,对外花出去,把这些美元转化为国内需要的商品、矿产资源等等实物。你想想看,国内企业赚的美元越多,国家就需要发行同等的人民币来支付给国内企业,如果太多的人民币都流向国内市场,又会加剧国内的通胀,这中间需要有一定经济平衡。也许对投资会亏损,但不投也许你亏的更历害,有时候宁可免除贫困国家债务,也一定要把多出来的美元向外花,不然每年净增值那么多美元,看起来是财富,如果花不出去将会是一颗通胀的炸弹。
所以看到任何新闻都要有自己的独立思考,不要跟着本身就有立场的媒体风向走,国家虽然没有聪明绝顶,但也没有你想象中的那么傻,你都能看懂的事,国家那么多智囊经济学家会看不懂?
overseas investments are not just gaining external influence, but could be risky assets. the point that one can control a soverign nation just by providing loans or invests is either naive or making deceptions.
国内消费低迷,要靠大量海外投资,然而国企这些年的海外并购和投资,成功的案例并不太多。另外为了争取第三世界国家在国际上的支持,有很多明显是政治投资。
一人願打一人願挨
等到傻子發現被坑已經來不及
記者問債務透明度 大使回答真令人翻白眼
我来翻译一下他说的话:汪汪汪汪汪汪汪汪汪汪汪汪,汪汪汪汪汪汪
@@mayajoss 中国大使很辛苦,为了让欧美记者听懂,被迫使用他们的语言
一帶一路係咩?就係大陸借錢俾你,再用國家過剩產能,通過大陸公司幫你做豆腐渣工程,然後賺晒你d錢返大陸,仲要還錢俾佢!跟手仲要你同台灣斷交!
那也没剩几个可以威胁的了
中国拿刀架着他们要他们借钱?你也是蛮搞笑的
@@张嘉良-t4s 中共通過賄賂窮國官員達到目的
准确地说,一带一路一开始并不是主动设计的债务陷阱,只是中国政府为了输出产能、解决就业而推出的基础设施卖方信贷,但这一政策在推行时没有遵循市场化,而是依托腐败的文化和体系,推销给第三世界的腐败官员,变成强加在第三世界国家和人民身上的过重债务,受益者则是国外的腐败官员、国内体制内外勾连者、国内企业,如果债务国有能力还款,中国也会最终受益。但事实上债务国脆弱的经济最终损害了中国的资金安全,就算拿到一些所谓战略性资源如港口,在这个腐败体系下,也产生不了对国家的任何价值,而这些抵债的所谓战略性收益,也不过是某些受益者和决策失误者的遮羞布
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for many of the comments accusing BBC for biased report, have you guus eve read the title of this video clip?
對經濟體質脆弱的開發中國家來說,一帶一路是個殘酷的債務陷阱。當債務國無力償債時,中國往往用債權交換股權,取得債務國港口、機場、水壩、發電廠或通訊網路控制權。中共為控制商務運輸與自由航行重要孔道訂了一套戰略,從陷入中共債務陷阱的國家名單就能窺見這套戰術的狡詐。到2020年,33個簽有一帶一路貸款協議的國家,無力償債的風險都在升高,八個窮國(巴基斯坦、吉布地、馬爾地夫、寮國、蒙古、蒙特內哥羅、塔吉克、吉爾吉斯)已經深陷倒債危機。
中共這套戰術視目標國領導人與其體制的相對強、弱而有變化。在面對大規模投資項目時,政治體制軟弱的國家往往為貪腐所害,也因此更容易墜入中共設下的陷阱。以斯里蘭卡為例,當時的總統馬辛達.拉賈帕沙(Mahinda Rajapaksa)簽下這個小島國根本無力負擔的債務。儘管斯里蘭卡當時並沒有正當且迫切的理由去建造一座新港口,他仍同意以高利舉債,請中國建一座。拉賈帕沙之後在選戰失利下台,但斯里蘭卡政府仍然債台高築。
在這座新港營運虧損以後,斯里蘭卡被迫簽下一紙99年租約,將港口租給一家中國國企。儘管中國官員宣稱不會將這個港用於軍事用途,就在日本首相安倍於2014年訪問斯里蘭卡前不久,港內還停靠著兩艘中國艦。
位於印度海岸外、人口40萬的小島國馬爾地夫是令中共垂涎的另一個目標,因為它控有一片具有高度戰略重要性、比英國大三倍有餘的海域。中共找上馬爾地夫,與總統阿布杜拉.雅米恩(Abdulla Yameen)達成協議(雅米恩與其他馬國官員因此大發利市),馬爾地夫向中國舉債,得到包括超過15億美元、比馬爾地夫GDP總值30%還多的保證貸款。(加上檯面下的保證,貸款總額可能高達30億美元。)中共在2018年企圖影響馬爾地夫總統選舉,結果由於貪腐、債務與債務相關的主權喪失而失敗。
一帶一路第二大貸款國(僅次於巴基斯坦)馬來西亞,由於位於亞洲心腹要地,擁有4500公里海岸線與一個無恥已極的貪腐政府,也是中共重要目標。在總理納吉(Najib Razak)與他的手下從馬國主權財富基金貪了45億美元(其中6億8100萬美元進了納吉個人銀行帳戶)以後,中共向納吉伸出援手。中共並且為馬來西亞一項鐵路工程提供160億美元貸款,這項經習近平親自批准的工程案實際成本不到80億。五個月以後,納吉飛到北京簽署這項交易。自2017年年中起,中國國有銀行開始將錢注入馬來西亞,幫這個東南亞第三大富國總統掩蓋遭他掏空的基金。
时间退回到300年前,欧洲各国对外殖民其实也是类似的行为。殖民地的经济大体上会比同国家别的地区发达。中国的5口通商城市,在如美国的东海岸城市,至今发展仍然比别的区域经济发达。那个年代的殖民,带去的资金需要军队的保护。现在这个年代一带一路也会往往伴有军事基地的驻扎条款。
欧洲的殖民者也有投资暴雷的时候。比如英国对北美洲,法国对非洲。
其实中国对外投资的策略对中国高层来说是没错的。如果学习历史的话,殖民地在短期100年左右,的确是会给殖民者带来大笔财富。但是长远来说,是很难sustain的。
中共政府試圖控制斯里蘭卡?
斯里蘭卡掉入債務陷阱?
這些都只有政府高層知道,就外界資訊而言,能確定的是雙方皆合作愉快
感謝您認同這報導
那請問BBC說中國新疆人被中國政府虐待也是假新聞麼😂😂😂
@@josephlin402 别人如果说是假新闻,你信不信呢? 你肯定不信,不然不会不停的问。那别人干嘛费劲回复你? 我教你,你就把疑问句变成肯定句就好。
BBC記者有待加強財經方面的知識……
一帶一路中國式的基礎建設是借錢+中國的企業與中國工人建設,被援助國獲得債務和成品,對其國家經濟幫助有限……
像中國當初的高鐵建設,日、歐是技術支持,車站興建與鐵路的鋪設那些是中國工人做的,政府的負債轉化成為工資進入國家經濟循環內,透過經濟的成長後獲得的稅收再去還債…
有概念的人可以想想兩者的差異…
然而代价是什么?
讓還不起錢的人過度消費就是一種陷阱,跟讓窮人借高利貸及讓年輕人頻刷信用卡一樣
你可能没有第三国家做过工程,都说中国债务太多,其实中国债务只占30%,这些国家疯狂借钱,欧债,IMF,非洲发展银行,亚投行太多了,
@@分享美好 無論那國或集團都一樣,對沒有還款能力的借款,最後以取得其資產抵押品替代降低貸款風險,尤其是貸給貪腐的政府,資金沒有百分百進入投資建設,就是一種陷害。
但是BBC可不关心年轻人的信用卡欠了多少钱
不建设就没有发展 人家是为国家买一个未来 和年轻人骄奢淫逸是两回事 所以你只是屁民 当不了啥高层
@@urjoker1576 高層您好
一个媒体仅靠采访两三个人和一两天的实地走访怎么就武断认为自己信息掌握的要比情报部门更准确和全面呢?
因为它本身就是间谍。
没有事实可以编造,对bbc来说都不是事儿。
借债人还不上债而用国家资产抵债,和100年前北非国家很像啊。
借债人还不上债而用资产抵债,
這是天經地義的事情
@@草草-c7i 借债人还不上债而用婦女抵债,
這是共慘黨天經地義的事情
何止,你银行借贷断供了照样拍卖你的房子来还掉银行的本金,这个在全世界各个国家的金融系统里面都是一样的游戏规则。
看所有权归属,100年前是要让渡所有权的。
反正出問題賴到中國身上就好了~ 一竊都是阿共ㄟˉ陰謀🤨
如果我向欧美银行贷款买房子后,因无力偿还剩下的贷款,房子和车子被银行拍卖之后导致我无家可归,我算不算是欧美银行债务陷阱的受害者?
這如同我給一個初入社會的小伙子貸款1000萬去買超跑,我明知他現在根本不需要超跑,且無能力償還,卻仍貸款給她,待他真的還不了錢的時候,再要求他簽下賣身契。這篇報導只是不斷強調,是這小伙子自己很想要超跑,我並沒有逼迫他去買超跑,他買了超跑無法發揮他的附加價值,我也是覺得很無奈,他因為買了超跑後債務累累,需要我的幫忙,我幫忙是我人好。說實在的,這不是債務陷阱,什麼是債務陷阱?很多人說中國有好好評估才借錢,但現在的結果不正好證明評估有誤,或是當初的目的就不僅如此?
港口是超跑。港口是可以给年轻人带来收入的。跟你这次二流子一样嘛
按你这种逻辑,当你得了重病,需要钱,而又还不起的时候,大家都不应该借钱给你,因为你还不起,对吗
借钱只需要两个条件,一个是双方行为自愿,第二是不违反国际法,那不就行了
@@JackSmith-qy3df 一、你才得重病,以下改以你得重病來解釋。二、那你借來的錢是買藥嗎?還是跑去買酒?斯里蘭卡顯然是買酒不是買藥,而買酒是中國規劃建議的。
三、另外,如果你小感冒要看醫生,我就算只是路邊看到你,你真跟我開口要,我也給你。但如果你是要換心,手術費要幾百萬,跟你非親非故,且你又沒有償債能力,大家為什麼要借你?又想治病又沒能力還錢,你不覺得你該去找慈善機構?
四、用你的譬喻,中國的做法,是把錢借給一個重病患者,且建議患者買酒而非買藥,最後患者還是重病,卻沒辦法償債,只能拿妻女抵債。這不是債務陷阱是什麼?
@@JackSmith-qy3df 照你的兩方同意說法就沒問題的說法,我猜貴國肯定沒有重利罪(高利貸)囉,
借錢是一個好的初衷.但借給確定無法還錢的人..
那確定裡面沒有什麼問題嗎?
然後聽一堆政治人物說話
超官僚的.說一些屁話
一般新聞都看的到.還需要看什麼現場採訪
那我建议你问下IMF和亚洲开发银行干嘛要借那么多给非洲国家,非洲债权第一是英法,其中斯里兰卡第一债权是日本。我很好奇干嘛不采访下日本驻斯里兰卡大使。
投资的过程中出现事故是很正常的现象,一个项目到底好不好,重点在于对手是怎么回应的,比如欧美在批评的同时,也搞出了他们自己版本的一带一路,扬言对抗中国影响力😂😂😂😂既然完全是错误,亏本且不对的行为,那么自由民主的灯塔国为何要模仿?
短期的利益回报,和长期的利益,这种区别,民选政府的废物不可能做到,也完全没有做的欲望,但是我们这种单一党派长期执政的国家可以做好。
确实,细节或许存在问题,但如果能通过输出中国的工业标准,中国的基础设施建设标准和中国的工程管理思维。那么这个国家,未来的产业政策,人才团队,就会是中国化的,而不是西方化。未来就是一堆奶牛。亚非拉广大地区的人民,数量和土地面积远远多于少数发达国家,竞争,不是看个别的胜利,而是总体的胜利。无需担心,胜利会属于我们。
G7这次大谈特谈全球基建大概是良心发现了吧,呵呵。
小粉紅本來就是不理性
中国不是早就胜利了吗?你们是在天天打仗吗?怎么天天喊胜利?你们不是支持共产党吗?现在共产党已经永远在中国执政了。你们不是要社会主义吗?现在中国是社会主义了。你们不是要人民站起来了吗?中华民国已经被推翻了,你们的人民已经站起来了啊。所以说你们每天还在苦大仇深什么?好像全世界都歉你们什么的。作为一个堂堂正正的中国人请记住一下几点:
1、中国永远都有共产党执政。
2、共产党治理的中国是全世界最优越的国家。
3、不翻墙不移民,用实际行动来支持中国的优越性,同时翻墙是违法的。
4、不和任何攻击中国的人辩论,中国现在的真实状况全世界在看着,事实大于雄辩。
5、充分享受共产党治理下的美好生活、暇逸的工作以及干净的食物和新鲜的空气。
分析讲的蛮好!很认同,赞。
I think the title given is misleading - towards the end of the clip this remains an opened question
其实这事也好解决,谁指责的谁帮着还上就好了,把债权接手过来不就得了?英国人指责的,那英国把钱还了同时成为新的债主,这就不存在陷阱了,还落个好名声一举两得。