Surprised they aren't requiring the wearing of a personal avalanche beacon in back country skiing by now, we were just beginning to use them in '70. Maybe even having day rentals of them at the ski shop for those going out of boundsl So much better than searching for the avalanche cord or using poles to explore for the buried.
This is the second video I've just watched where SAR's members are saying they are not trained to handle incidents where people die or have lost friends who have been recovered dead...why is this not part of SAR's training.. surely debriefing at the end pf a rescue is done. Cant a medical member talk about this kind of thing or isn't there a hospital phycologist available to even chat via video link?? So important that your members are storing this kind of thing in their heads when they have to keep going out to rescues or taking it home to their families... hugs to all SAR's members you do an amazing job. Maybe (I don't know exactly what you do as I live in Oz) tourists and locals need more education on avalanches and skiing in bad terrain?
This show wildly mischaracterizes the role of SAR in this burial, SAR were (and usually are) unable to do anything other than recover the survivors and victims in avalanche burials. Sadly the victims were long dead, likely before even ski patrol got there.Those caught in the avalanche have no one but themselves to blame, the guy in the heli wasn't even wearing a helmet. We need to start spreading the correct message, no one is coming to save you, you must be prepared. They were all obviously on the same slope at the same time when they should have gone one at a time, basic stuff. Hero worshiping the 'cast' of this show does nothing to save anyone, the producer should be downright ashamed this was created. At the end they say, '2 weeks ago SAR lost 2 people', they weren't even first on scene. Nonsense, and absolutely infuriating.
you are correct. that's why you learn in most avalanche courses, that you can only be rescued by your partners. when rescue arrives, they can treat wounds, continue the reanimation, fly you out, etc. but it's very very rare, that they will help you dig out someone alive. if one is buried completely, he needs air within 15 minutes. even when there are several experienced guys next to the avalanche, it's a race against the clock.
I also wonder why they are saying "30 minutes is ideal to dig somebody out" at 00:30 after 15min the statistical survival rate is at 50%, after 30min it's at 25%
I don't think it was misrepresented at all. The show explicitly states their plan is to fly in, provide medical assistance to anyone already dug out, and evacuate the one known survivor. They then proceed to show footage of them flying in, providing medical assistance, and evacuating the one known survivor. It's also clearly stated and shown in the footage that ski patrol and others on scene during the slide were the ones searching, probing, and digging. What's misrepresented?
There is no excuse in this day and age to have hills not requiring personal avalanche beacons on all out-of-bounds skiers. They could even have them in the ski shops for day rentals.
@@sharonmcnally4712you want the ski area to regulate what happens beyond their boundaries? I worked at a ski shop where we rented beacons to access the terrain in bounds that requires them. We called them Body Retreival Units, assuming people who rent them don’t know how to use them…to rent a beacon to someone to take out of bounds is asinine.
Surprised they aren't requiring the wearing of a personal avalanche beacon in back country skiing by now, we were just beginning to use them in '70. Maybe even having day rentals of them at the ski shop for those going out of boundsl So much better than searching for the avalanche cord or using poles to explore for the buried.
I hope anyone who survives this never lives with survivors' guilt. It's simply the wrong place at the wrong time. 😢
the start is like a whole action movie
This is the second video I've just watched where SAR's members are saying they are not trained to handle incidents where people die or have lost friends who have been recovered dead...why is this not part of SAR's training.. surely debriefing at the end pf a rescue is done. Cant a medical member talk about this kind of thing or isn't there a hospital phycologist available to even chat via video link?? So important that your members are storing this kind of thing in their heads when they have to keep going out to rescues or taking it home to their families... hugs to all SAR's members you do an amazing job. Maybe (I don't know exactly what you do as I live in Oz) tourists and locals need more education on avalanches and skiing in bad terrain?
I'm sorry... the artillery is still more fun 😂
This show wildly mischaracterizes the role of SAR in this burial, SAR were (and usually are) unable to do anything other than recover the survivors and victims in avalanche burials. Sadly the victims were long dead, likely before even ski patrol got there.Those caught in the avalanche have no one but themselves to blame, the guy in the heli wasn't even wearing a helmet. We need to start spreading the correct message, no one is coming to save you, you must be prepared. They were all obviously on the same slope at the same time when they should have gone one at a time, basic stuff. Hero worshiping the 'cast' of this show does nothing to save anyone, the producer should be downright ashamed this was created. At the end they say, '2 weeks ago SAR lost 2 people', they weren't even first on scene. Nonsense, and absolutely infuriating.
you are correct. that's why you learn in most avalanche courses, that you can only be rescued by your partners.
when rescue arrives, they can treat wounds, continue the reanimation, fly you out, etc. but it's very very rare, that they will help you dig out someone alive.
if one is buried completely, he needs air within 15 minutes. even when there are several experienced guys next to the avalanche, it's a race against the clock.
I also wonder why they are saying "30 minutes is ideal to dig somebody out" at 00:30
after 15min the statistical survival rate is at 50%, after 30min it's at 25%
I don't think it was misrepresented at all. The show explicitly states their plan is to fly in, provide medical assistance to anyone already dug out, and evacuate the one known survivor. They then proceed to show footage of them flying in, providing medical assistance, and evacuating the one known survivor. It's also clearly stated and shown in the footage that ski patrol and others on scene during the slide were the ones searching, probing, and digging. What's misrepresented?
There is no excuse in this day and age to have hills not requiring personal avalanche beacons on all out-of-bounds skiers. They could even have them in the ski shops for day rentals.
@@sharonmcnally4712you want the ski area to regulate what happens beyond their boundaries? I worked at a ski shop where we rented beacons to access the terrain in bounds that requires them. We called them Body Retreival Units, assuming people who rent them don’t know how to use them…to rent a beacon to someone to take out of bounds is asinine.