Honestly dropping that “apology” was the worst thing he could’ve done. He still had hardcore fans that were convinced it could’ve been someone else, and others just said not to speculate, but he confirmed it was him AND made it about himself. Not even the worst possible stans defend him anymore.
for him? yea no support for this guy anymore😂 the bright side is. he fucked up so bad the people who were very attached(hardcore fans) cannot be anymore,(like u said!! :D)wich is, they can moove on earlier from being a wilbur fan if he was achualy good at the apology
The way i wish this was true but still saw comments defending him, claiming they "didn't know who to believe" despite both parties saying the same thing, or just outright not caring that it wasn't consensual
I also feel so bad for Tommy. Like I’m NOT AT ALL saying Wilbur is in the right and that shubbles thoughts should be disregarded. Bud I feel so bad for Tommy because he looked up to Wilbur as a role model and a brother figure. And now that’s all been torn away from him and he’s probably so confused rn..
Ikr? I’ve just sat, checking the apology twitter post to see if Tommy has found out abt this. I’m not taking sides cuz I mean, it’s just too difficult to believe rn man but it’s also very odd how this has just been bombed so quickly. It was like it was basically meant to stir up drama. (Not saying that it was, idk. It’s just odd.) But poor Tommy man, he and Wilbur r so close. I hope their friendship doesn’t get ruined from this cuz Tommy might be understanding of this? (I hope their friendship doesn’t end because of this situation, I love crime boys so much. I’d hate to see them just shatter apart.)
@@Al_gacha. honestly respecting your opinion they should not be friends. I don’t think Tommy should be friends with an abuser. Also everything Shelby says lines up with Wilbur so I say we believe her. Although I love crime boys with my whole heart I don’t want them to be friends.
It's like a PR statement in every comment making sure they don't get attacked for not clarifying that they support Shelby or not. It's like everyone wants to protect their image and want to avoid being called an "abuse supporter". The internet is a scary place fr and I'm just reading the room and right now I don't want to be attacked either.
I don't want to believe it. The child in me wants to just go on pretending that he's just a UA-camr that hasn't done anything wrong. But when Ranboo dropped an F-bomb, I couldn't ignore it. It's shattering. When you find out your favourite UA-camr, the one you've been watching for years, that's made you smile and laugh, the one that seemed so COOL in Dream SMP and so smart.... Damn. It's hard. It's really, really hard to swallow. This isn't like with Dream, where it's just some person accusing him of doing something that he proves is a lie to get attention. Dozens of creators are rising up. With Dream, I could actually be on his side because there was no concrete proof that he had groomed the girl. But when my other favourite UA-camrs go and speak about Wilbur... it's not something you can ignore. Like this comment if you're trying desperately not to be shattered right now.
Im honestly feeling sort of the same way like oart of me wants to ignore it and move on because his videos have gotten me through a relly rough patch in my life but the other part is angry and wants to remove ever memory of him from my phone and i just dont know what to do but ive decided to stop watching him for a while but probably stop watching him in a whole witch hurts to say but hes in the wrong and im glad he acknowledged that but it still doesn't make it right and i feel so bad for poor shuble
Yeah I really don't know how to feel right now. Wilbur always seemed like a nice guy to me, but hearing the allegations, and seeing him confirm it in his apology and then make the apology about himself, really hits hard. And then tubbo, ranboo, and aimsey, all taking shubbles side and sounding very angry at wilbur, is really hard to take in.
@@kookikooki5968was it really an apology. Why do we deserved a public apology. Hopefully he gave something genuine behind closed doors because that sounded like a statement if u get what I’m saying
Sadly, even if he does. Either no one will believe him now or it won't be of any use, he already fucked up the apology, was attacked for it by every creator and former friends and lost all of his ties
WHY DID YOU MAKE THE THUMBNAIL LOOK LIKE SOME REACTION VIDEO WHEN THEYRE LITERALLY TALKING ABOUT ABUSE?? THIS IS NOT SOME SILLY LITTLE SITUATION HES REACTING TO. THIS IS SOMEONES LIFE AND THEIR PERSONAL TRAUMA WTF.
I said this once and I'll say it again. Abusing someone and making shit apologies is literally like "I'm sorry I killed your friends and family but I'm in therapy now" like bro!? Tubbo being informed about this a few minutes before steam and managing to explain it to the viewers is the reason why I will ALWAYS support him 💕 #SupportShubbleSquad
@@theinfinitecomet4753 bro he admitted to it 💀 you are stuck in a para-social relationship I was also, now I have seen enough evidence. Please educate yourself
I would just like to point out, for the record, how so genuinely tone-deaf this thumbnail is. It vaguely reminds me of that situation with the Rihanna and Chris Brown would you rather. The fact that you have the audacity to put the abuser and vitcim together in the thumbnail with hearts is actually unsettling its crazy. Your view-raking treatment of this situation just goes to show just how little you care, all you see is money to be made. Why not treat this situation with any amount of seriousness whatsoever, link to sites to support victims of domestic abuse, link to Shubble's socials and redirect your viewer base to show her support, for the sake of humanity do something contributional!!
Man, I really hope Shubble is getting the support and peace they deserve. Im glad tubbo, ranboo, aims, etc have stood up for her as without their word im sure some people may of not realised how shitty this entire thing is.
well shelby supporters took it to far as d0xxing wilbur and sending him death threats I know what wilbur did was wrong but taking it too far is not cool..
@@franzcatapat102 Yeah, but that isn't Shubble's fault, and that doesn't justify Wilbur's actions. Sure, its uncool, but the fan's actions don't reflect nor should be put on the idol.
@@We.are.disappointmentsim not putting it on shelby what im saying is its not cool to dox people because they did something extremely wrong look im not supporting wilbur but doxxing people was far.. there so many what could happen if a person was doxxed They could kidnapped The people could rob the house im saying for the last time i dont support wilbur nor shelby but doxxing is too far.
im not putting it on shelby but they are some people doxxing him because he did someone extremely wrong but i wanna say the some private live should remain private because doxxing a person just because he did a extremely wrong thing doesnt mean you can dox him or death threat him there was so many things that that could happen when you are doxxed The person will be kidnapped the persons house will be robbed And im not saying that i support wilbur but doxxing is too far "I AM NOT SUPPORTING WILBUR NOR SHELBY BECAUSE ITS THEIR ARGUMENT NOT US WE HAVE NO RIGHTS TO GO SLIP RIGHT IN AND DOX EACH OTHER".
I feel physically sick that I looked up to him so much. I learned guitar because of him, my first song on it was Jubilee Line and now I'm just wrecked on what to do now. I've been holding back tears since I'm not home yet but holy fuck. I literally haven't listened to anything besides Wilbur/Lovejoy songs now I'm trying to move away. Dunno what to do now.
It’s okay don’t let this hold you back!your probably amazing at the guitar! it’s okay use what you have learned and make something new with it make it your own instead.You can find a new inspiration and make it more better.
Don't let this stop you from playing. He may have inspired you, but that was YOUR discipline you harnessed. Take it for yourself and make it yours. It's no longer for or because of him. It's your talent you've created, the original reasoning be damned.
it’s not the common opinion but you know I do believe in “separate art from artist” thing. the most important thing is the message putted in the art. I can’t say that these songs are calling me for violence. these songs about else and they’ve played a big role in my art. I do not support Wilbur but I can’t rip off the part of my art that has been influenced by his music. if I would do so I would be just devastated and in some kind of depressed. in conclusion you’ve looked up not for Wilbur as a person, you’ve looked up for music that inspired you. you have a right to listen and growing on something that you like, yet separate your attitude to artist. hope it’s not so messed up written, sorry for my bad knowledge of language.
Will you update us if Tommy or Philza gives a response? Tommy's might not be for a while, because he probably isn't going to stream while he's on tour, but Phil's should come soon. This will affect everyone who was close to Wilbur. I keep seeing people wanting them to respond faster, when they are still getting their head around it. Also, it's been THREE DAYS. THREE DAYS. give them time to think, and fully get their head around how messed up Wilbur actually was. Edit: Tommy has said to give love and support to Shubble, while Philza has banned all Wilbur emotes in his chat. I will update you guys if they give statements (if you don't have Twitter/X), or if they stream about it. Edit #2: People who are supporting Shubble! TommyInnit Dream Aimsey Billzo Punz Hannah Rose Philza Jack Manifold Tubbo Quackity (THIS LIST WILL BE UPDATED!)
I also feel so bad for Tommy. Like I’m NOT AT ALL saying Wilbur is in the right and that shubbles thoughts should be disregarded. Bud I feel so bad for Tommy because he looked up to Wilbur as a role model and a brother figure. And now that’s all been torn away from him and he’s probably so confused rn..
@@annie.stromboli Same. I admired their relationship, wanting to have that "Brother Bond" that they were known for. And now they are gone. I still don't, and probably ever won't again, support Wilbur's actions, or content, but I hope he releases a better apology, because I don't know if you saw his response, but it was really bad. I hope he gets better and becomes a better person in the future.
@@ToomerInnit I saw his response and I think it’s appalling how his ‘apology’ didn’t even have the word sorry in it. Also he literally took all the focus away from the victim and put it on himself. It’s like he didn’t actually address the important things because he couldn’t think of anything to cover it up with. So you bite someone and blame it on being in a bad place? It’s just not okay. And I feel so sorry for everyone whose supported him and not to mention the amount of careers he’s ruined. What are lovejoy supposed to do?
@@annie.stromboli I'm not sure what direction Lovejoy is steering in, but I hope the band members (Minus Wilbur) feel okay. I mainly feel bad for the people who spent so much money on merch, or tickets to their shows. What he did wasn't okay, so like I said, I will no longer be supporting his actions and content.
My child side of me is screaming at me to just ignore..but i cant. I looked up to Wilbur so much..im absolutely shattered right now..I hope Shubble is getting the support she deserves.. Wilbur needs to stop with the bullsh!t exuses and actually apologize. But NOT to us, his fans. But to Shubble, his friends, and anyone else that he hurt. Please learn to take responsibility for your actions Wilbur...
Crazy how everything has just went downhill since Technoblade left. Everything has just been breaking, and their friendships are all going to be impacted by this. First the whole drama between Quackity and Dream, and now this for Wilbur. Atleast Technoblade was spared from all of this and didnt get to see all his friends come to a state like this...
Learn the news was so shattering the child in me want to ignore it think of him as just a UA-camr . But abuse is so serious I can’t.I love stubble and she is so strong for being able to tell everyone about what has happened to her. The apology that he gives is so bad he doesn’t even take responsibility for his actions. So many people looked up to will and saw him as a role model and a person that brought happiness and help so many people through hard ships where they couldn’t see the light at the end and he him has caused hardship and pain that is unforgivable and shatter the hope and trust of so many. support victims such as Shelby, we all love her and she deserves all the love.
It shocked me when wilbur came forward as the abuser it made me feel sick to my stomach and as someone who was mentally and physically abused I felt horrible hearing the things he did to Shelby I really do hope Shelby is doing better now
I can’t believe Wilbur did that stuff.. literally feel sick.. I wouldn’t think he would ever do that. I feel so bad for Shelby and I hope she will be ok. And I hope Wilbur will be better and get some major help.. And I feel so bad for Tommy as well, like he looks up to will so much😭🫶🏻 I’m just so surprised. I was just talking about will and how he’s so nice and I love his music. Then he comes out as an Abuser?.! Just crazy.. #supportshubble
That s because it's not an apology. it's HIS view on what happened. He only admitted to CONSENTUAL biting. There is more proof Shelby actually hurt Wilbur atm plus Shelby has allegations of $@ against her atm
I feel sick. He genuinely was someone who I watched when I was super depressed. Now knowing about it. I don’t know how to feel because my favourite person is just a horrible disgusting person.
Don’t put somone so low like that, all you do is spread more hate. From what we know he is getting therapy now and its best to wait it out before calling anyone a disgusting person.
I feel to bad Shelby. She don't deserved all this. She deserved a better place to live. and I feel bad to Quackity because ik he love him so much as a friend to him now i dont think Quackity will make wine stream with Wilbur anymore who knows. We just have to wait it see. If Quackity said any words to Wilbur if not I understand how it hurts so much to Quackity losing a friend. But yes I do feel bad that Quackity and his admins that were work so hard on it and they did not know any of there friends solution just like Forever got exposed and kick Qsmp Too. Please support Shelby
ok so there’s a lot of mixed opinions/ points of views in here but i support anybody who like got abused but like it’s clear that will was not in a good place like mentally during that time and which like obviously is no excuse but also there’s pictures of him with obvious like bruises so like idk if it was like both of them were abusing each other or something but like i would support both of them i think because like obviously will was like depressed or smthn and like depression is bad but like that’s no excuse to hurt someone and also like im a bit biased because i used to look up to wilbur so much but i kind of feel bad for him bc everyone who was his friend is now just like absolutely like “OHH FUCK YOU WILBUR OMG FUCK U BITCH” and like i know what it feels like to just be absolutely hated on by people who you thought were your friends but like honestly idk now im just kinda info dumping i feel bad for both of them but it’s like i don’t really believe will could do something like that and it’s really just heart breaking but i still support stubble either way because abuse = bad but also like girlie pop if you are getting abused like go to the police not just twitter/twitch like im not saying it’s a bad thing bc he did bad stuff but u basically ruined wilbur’s entire career when you really should have gone to the police and it was very irresponsible for her to post it on twitch in my opinion
1. Made her mother go outside in the rain to vote 2. Hypocritical about her political views 3. Made Wilbur change the lyrics to a song 4. Walked with with her ex-boyfriend when Wilbur was clearly in a depressive episode over the death of a friend (I don't know about you, but that's not an acceptable attitude to have towards a partner) 5. Believes that a partner has no right to change their point of view and is obligated to be with her 6. Considers a relationship toxic if she isn't complimented 7. Believes that she has the right to publish details of someone's personal life 8. Constantly referred to Wilbur's statement as an apology, which many now actually think is an apology. No, it's his take on the situation, which he mentions several times 9. Lied about Wilbur abusing her financially 10. Lied about neither of her boyfriends meeting her parents, when there's literally a stream of Wilbur talking about meeting his girlfriend's parents online 11. Is dismissive of mental health And people just turn a blind eye to it because she brought up the abuse first. If it were a white man who acted the way she does, everyone would be trying to cancel him already
I hope anyone who was hurt by this situation is able to heal, I feel sick angry and sad about this but I can't ignore this one. I hope Shelby can continue to heal.
I don’t know everything about this yet. But was it confirmed that it was Wilbur? Please I need to know this since Shelby didn’t say his name in the vod last I checked. Also when I heard ranboo drop the f-bomb I was like HOLY CRAP-
Dude why did wilbur even have to such horrible things? He had this whole thing and fame and decided to make such disgusting decisions and things. All support to shelby❤
It is so hard to watch someone who you loved and practically looked up to end up doing bad things like this. I almost don't want to believe these things. Worst part is, it is actually impossible to be on Wilburs side. What he did was wrong and I am forever on Shelbys side for this. Heartbreaking really to see a youtuber and streamer who you cared about get called out for something so horrible... I never expected any of this to be true.
It’s okay I’m a tubbling and we will gladjng have our arms open you you Wilbur be viewers even if you don’t wanna watch Tubbo streams, we would gladly be here for anyone
@@embersayshi Heyyyy, ummm… ok so, I’m really sorry, but please can I just ask you something? (In the comments of course, not weirdly). I just wanted to talk to someone about all this, because in Tubbo’s stream he said ‘if you even think of defending Wilbur, then you can unfollow and get out of this community’. I don’t support Wilbur but I like him. I don’t like Shubble (her content just isn’t for me) but I do support her. I think abuse is wrong, but now I feel like I don’t deserve to follow Tubbo or even be in his chat because I don’t completely agree with, or understand his approach. I get that he is shocked and angry, I am too (mainly confused though) but I hate all the hostility and I don’t know whether I would be accepted into dear old tubble’s community because of my views. :(
@@Duny4-ni6gu I don’t think that’s what he ment I think what he ment was if u support him in this situation and thin abuse it okay then unfollow but you just like his content.your not supporting him for his actions. your supporting Shelby in this type of situation and Your not supporting him,you like the art he is making and you are allowed.your not doing anything wrong.Your neutral and I am to.I support Shelby in this situation but some people are taking it to far and saying things that are way out of line m.He is human as will.
Yk if Wilbur had kept his mouth shut literally he would still have his friends and ppl defending him. But lit that apology was the worst it was “yes I did it but..” it’s like when I was upset I’d turn to Wilbur soot but hearing he did this is.. I want to hurt him bc that isn’t flipping right and it’s horrible
okay so obviously i don’t support domestic abuse but the thing is why is wilbur getting a bunch of hate and stuff bc ppl have basically only heard shelby’s side of the story how does she have proof that wilbur actually abused her?
At this point I want all of this to be a joke . A joke just for fame and shit . I know that would still be a bad thing but not as bad as this . Honestly I qanna wake up tomorrow and realize this is all a dream . A very very veryyyy bad one .😢
I hope to see a big wave of support for Shelby from content creators in the next few days. It must have been really hard for her to share their story about someone more famous than her, so I think the best thing would be as much vocal and public support as possible from other public figures, especially people who know/knew Wilbur personally. I hope Tubbo and Ranboo's statements are helping them in this hard moment.
It really hurts to see everyone blindly support Shelby and not even think to even consider looking into the situation she literally provided absolutely no evidence told everyone metal illnesses are not an excuse and manipulated her audience not one but two times Shelby is a disgusting person I can’t believe people support her if your going to be on anyone’s side support Wilbur there is more then enough evidence to support will
Because mental illnesses aren't an excuse to be a shitty and abusive person. Or do you actually believe that beung mentally ill is an excuse for abuse?
Tbh I haven’t touched this fandom in years but just seeing how much everyone grew apart is heartbreaking and now hearing about all this it just makes me feel insane. I’m sorry to Shelby and all the things she suffered through. THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION FOR ABUSE. It really makes you wonder what other creators are hiding.
I'm sorry to say it but if you can't see wilburs issues that he needs help for then your not a good fan! If it even got to this point without him getting help then that proves the same thing and now your putting so much more stress on him and he might quit and do worse things because you fake fans didn't help his stress and problems weighing him down
Im not gonna support wilbur anymore, i will miss his old self when he didnt di anything wrong, i will just genuinely miss him but i am NEVER gonna support an abuser, when i found out, i thought it was a rumor and all fake when people said it was Wilbur without solid proof, but even the lovwjoy ex trumpet player, the lovejoy photograoher and an old member of the soothouse have agreed with it, i wanted to just wake up and it all be a dream, since Technoblade passed everything has gone down hill, Dream and Quackity drama about the qsmp, Dream getting accused of being a groomer, now Wilbur is an abuser and we didnt know before
No offense though im not in anyone side but if Shelby was literally going through all that if she has the confidence to say it through the whole internet she could have been also be brave to tell it to an adult to help her or a police.... He have already change,and the word or what they say that people be what others say will really change the person ,so please we must stop minding other people businesses cuz I don't think it help to fix their problems faster in a right way of course i also feel sorry for Shelby to how wilbur acts to her but people that have no idea what their going through and what happened to them in the past yet keeps on dooxing them and giving them negative verbal or nonverbal actions or threatening them makes their situation worst and this words are not only for them but also for the people that might have the same situation 😢
It's hard to process that people who you've enjoyed to watch in the past turn out to be terrible people. His music is pretty good, everyone thought he was a great person, and then it turns out that he was a terrible person. The person who made the donation to play that song at 1:35 was really just disrespectful. I only started watching all of these people over a year since Technoblade was gone, and it's just... really depressing to see everything fall apart like this.
I feel so bad for Tommy, first his idol died and now someone who he believed was a good person, his best friend has now been exposed for who he really is
I am just finding out about this today (i don’t have any social media except UA-cam) and normally I try to avoid drama among UA-camrs and not pick sides but fucking hell I’m picking Shubble’s side. Hearing about what he did makes me sick to my stomach. No amount of “sorrys” from him will ever make this ‘okay’ #shubblesupportsquad #noexcuseforabuse
I really don't know what words to use to express what I think about this... Wilbur... He was one of my favorite English-speaking UA-camrs, he always said that his, Tubbo and Tommy were my favorites, but He was always first... I had respect for Wilbur, I admired him and he came out with that out of nowhere, he was doing homework while reading the whole situation... I try to hold back my tears a little and since I'm with my parents I have to hide my displeasure, but since I saw this I haven't been able to be normal... It was already a stressful day for them to come up with this, the only thing I thought about was waiting for my best friend, a friend who also admires Wilbur a lot and probably doesn't know about it, to connect to the chat to tell her all this... I feel like she will be more disappointed than me
I think its so messed up that people are still trying to not cancel him. I know people love Wilbur, but he did something messed up. I was so excited for Lovejoys new song to come out but now I dont want to listen to it anymore.
At this point, I'm ignoring everything negative related to these fuckers. I've watched their stuff for years, loved it all, and have been defending them constantly. Now? Everything is falling apart, and I don't care anymore. I'm done
The fact that in that ENTIRE so called "apology" he avoided and ignored using the actual words "I'm sorry" is a genuine shocker to me. Usually if theres a youtuber doing a fake apology , they atleast say at some point the words "I'm sorry" . I thought of Wilbur Soot as an idol, but this has just disgusted me.
You can't even call Wilburs response an apology. It was not even addressing it, at this point it was literally just confirmation. He invalidated her, he did not apologize, he talked about himself getting better and going to therapy as if he was the one who'd been traumatized. In in his literalmusic he talks about his failed relationships and how he was toxic. He should've addressed this way earlier on because we know damn well if Shubble had never said anything, he wouldnt of either. Wilbur used to be my comfort person, now he just disgusts me. All of my love to Shubble, she deserved so much better.
I know I’m months late to this drama but I still can’t believe this actually happened. It seems impossible that someone like Wilbur would do anything like that. It’s just a sad thing to think about.
Wilbur is genuinely a crazy person, this whole time we thought it was a skit or the character he played but it really was the real him, even the apology lacked any effort or care so sad he would throw away a career like that man.
Why is it so hard to watch these kind of videos first one technoblade dying that was hard dream face real and other stuff like that these videos are so hard to watch
I will never defend what he did, but I do think I’ll be able to move past it and still watch him. What he did was not ok, and that was not an apology. I don’t know what’s going to happen next but really hope things get better for everyone involved.
I was a huge fan of Wilbur for 3 years, i was in and out of watching the videos and recently came back about a month ago and the first thing I found was that Wilbur did this. At first I didn’t believe it but he confirmed it himself. Anyone saying that he didn’t do it is crazy. There were THREE PEOPLE saying he did the same to them. Tubbo was amazing for this
everone keeps saying that his apology was bad, which while I agree was a bit rushed and he should have waited to make a more put-together response, his apology covers everything pretty well, and he stresses that he doesn' want to invlaidate shelby's feelings. The entire idea that the apology is bad only works if you beleive everthin that shelby said blindly with no evidence. "he didn't adress everything" maybe that's because there wasnt things to adress?
It’s insane. It’s actually insane. I wouldn’t even call what Wilbur posted an apology, he doesn’t even own up to his actions. He’s not even trying to make up for what he did. No matter how big a fan they were before, nobody should support him. Everyone should be disgusted by these actions. I’m fairly sure everyone IS disgusted by his actions. Shubble is incredibly strong for being able to talk about that, and to tell him she didn’t accept that crap “apology.” She didn’t deserve to be treated that way. #SupportShubbleSquad
Absolutely heartbreaking. I feel sick, i cant believe it and im so genuinely upset by it. Wilbur was one of my favs streamers, one of my comfort streamers. He really helped me when i struggled with my mental health. And this happening is just fucking destroying me. I cant believe it at all. I hope he fucking makes a proper apology, a better one and a genuine one in private to shelby. Wilbur has lost 10m subs within 5 day's so thats good. But the notification i got from my friend messaging me asking if i saw the drama was not smth i expected on a good thursday night. No matter how much you liked Wilbur always support the victim. #supportshubble
dame he was so sereise about the hole unfolloie me thing but hes right if you surport abuse you have no place in this comunite (and i know i spellt evreything wrong dont bully me for it)
@@val3r1e0ff 1. it wasn’t an apology, shelby referred to it so much that people keep saying it’s an apology 2. making a “bad apology” doesn’t mean someone admitted to something 3. where? 4. yes, he said he admitted to being a shitty boyfriend at times, but that time his best friend had just died so he was still upset 5. being a shitty boyfriend and stuff doesn’t make you an abuser (because he isn’t)
Ok but im not saying anything to do with it bit with wilbur its not supporting domestic abuse its not, we don’t even know who it was yes and yes his response was NOT acceptable in any way but i do feel it would have taken a big toll on wilbur when the accusations came onto him straight away tho also in the “response” he does look under the influence of something but we dont even know who it is, it may be will but it also very much couldn’t. Stop blaming and support shelby for actually speaking about all this
To be completely honest i looked up to Wilber...i found him a cool type of guy and i just couldn't believe when i found this on my fyp...im just shattered that the Wilber we knew actually did this and please give some love to Shelby cause she needs some really❤❤❤❤
Okay but fr the apology was bullshit. It got worse and worse about him. This is the real him and now he deserve this.even ranboo said about him so many UA-camrs roasted him asf.
Honestly dropping that “apology” was the worst thing he could’ve done. He still had hardcore fans that were convinced it could’ve been someone else, and others just said not to speculate, but he confirmed it was him AND made it about himself. Not even the worst possible stans defend him anymore.
for him? yea no support for this guy anymore😂
the bright side is. he fucked up so bad the people who were very attached(hardcore fans) cannot be anymore,(like u said!! :D)wich is, they can moove on earlier from being a wilbur fan if he was achualy good at the apology
its pretty much only a good thing he was bad at this
The way i wish this was true but still saw comments defending him, claiming they "didn't know who to believe" despite both parties saying the same thing, or just outright not caring that it wasn't consensual
@@eldritch_bun27 thats heartbreaking
I was one of those fans, I’m… I was so sure it was something else🙁
I also feel so bad for Tommy. Like I’m NOT AT ALL saying Wilbur is in the right and that shubbles thoughts should be disregarded. Bud I feel so bad for Tommy because he looked up to Wilbur as a role model and a brother figure. And now that’s all been torn away from him and he’s probably so confused rn..
Ikr? I’ve just sat, checking the apology twitter post to see if Tommy has found out abt this. I’m not taking sides cuz I mean, it’s just too difficult to believe rn man but it’s also very odd how this has just been bombed so quickly. It was like it was basically meant to stir up drama. (Not saying that it was, idk. It’s just odd.) But poor Tommy man, he and Wilbur r so close. I hope their friendship doesn’t get ruined from this cuz Tommy might be understanding of this? (I hope their friendship doesn’t end because of this situation, I love crime boys so much. I’d hate to see them just shatter apart.)
@@Al_gacha. honestly respecting your opinion they should not be friends. I don’t think Tommy should be friends with an abuser. Also everything Shelby says lines up with Wilbur so I say we believe her. Although I love crime boys with my whole heart I don’t want them to be friends.
@@annie.stromboli I do think tommy has been manipulated by Wilbur too
@@simeon9962 yeah, especially how he used to bite him too. (Idk what happens behind closed doors dude)
It's like a PR statement in every comment making sure they don't get attacked for not clarifying that they support Shelby or not. It's like everyone wants to protect their image and want to avoid being called an "abuse supporter". The internet is a scary place fr and I'm just reading the room and right now I don't want to be attacked either.
I don't want to believe it. The child in me wants to just go on pretending that he's just a UA-camr that hasn't done anything wrong.
But when Ranboo dropped an F-bomb, I couldn't ignore it. It's shattering.
When you find out your favourite UA-camr, the one you've been watching for years, that's made you smile and laugh, the one that seemed so COOL in Dream SMP and so smart....
Damn. It's hard. It's really, really hard to swallow.
This isn't like with Dream, where it's just some person accusing him of doing something that he proves is a lie to get attention.
Dozens of creators are rising up.
With Dream, I could actually be on his side because there was no concrete proof that he had groomed the girl.
But when my other favourite UA-camrs go and speak about Wilbur... it's not something you can ignore.
Like this comment if you're trying desperately not to be shattered right now.
May I vent rn? Wilbur kept me from doing suicide in 2020. I'm serious. I.. I.. Oh my fucking god.
Yeah first with forever, now with Wilbur
Im honestly feeling sort of the same way like oart of me wants to ignore it and move on because his videos have gotten me through a relly rough patch in my life but the other part is angry and wants to remove ever memory of him from my phone and i just dont know what to do but ive decided to stop watching him for a while but probably stop watching him in a whole witch hurts to say but hes in the wrong and im glad he acknowledged that but it still doesn't make it right and i feel so bad for poor shuble
Its a very big pill to swallow...
Godammit Wilbur...
Yeah I really don't know how to feel right now. Wilbur always seemed like a nice guy to me, but hearing the allegations, and seeing him confirm it in his apology and then make the apology about himself, really hits hard. And then tubbo, ranboo, and aimsey, all taking shubbles side and sounding very angry at wilbur, is really hard to take in.
I hope Wilbur actually f-cking improves and apologizes (genuinely). What he did was unforgiveable. I hope Shubble's getting help. #supportshubble
I don’t get what’s going can you explain
@@SlowMCC he bites and an incel to women
wich is
mannnn...... :(
@@SlowMCC Wilbur abused his ex girlfriend (shubble) and made a terrible apology if you can even call it that watch shubble's vod
@@kookikooki5968was it really an apology. Why do we deserved a public apology. Hopefully he gave something genuine behind closed doors because that sounded like a statement if u get what I’m saying
Sadly, even if he does. Either no one will believe him now or it won't be of any use, he already fucked up the apology, was attacked for it by every creator and former friends and lost all of his ties
WHY DID YOU MAKE THE THUMBNAIL LOOK LIKE SOME REACTION VIDEO WHEN THEYRE LITERALLY TALKING ABOUT ABUSE?? THIS IS NOT SOME SILLY LITTLE SITUATION HES REACTING TO. THIS IS SOMEONES LIFE AND THEIR PERSONAL TRAUMA WTF.
This!! What is actually wrong with this person???
right! this is something serious and the thumbnail is nor appropriate for this
@@oliviab.9194least insensitive DSMP content farm
Exactly, they made the thumbnail mess up.
Why is your profile pic pomni
I said this once and I'll say it again.
Abusing someone and making shit apologies is literally like "I'm sorry I killed your friends and family but I'm in therapy now" like bro!? Tubbo being informed about this a few minutes before steam and managing to explain it to the viewers is the reason why I will ALWAYS support him 💕
#SupportShubbleSquad
Massive jump between being rude and biting to homicide but sure mate
Yeah no not the same level bro. Cant really compare ALLEGATIONS of abuse to homicide. You freak.
@@theinfinitecomet4753 It's a hypothetical situation 😭 Bro she said he bit her until she would bleed 💀 please leave me be I have school
@@Vai_Editzz ok than stop acting like he’s guilty. No evidence yet bro.
@@theinfinitecomet4753 bro he admitted to it 💀 you are stuck in a para-social relationship I was also, now I have seen enough evidence. Please educate yourself
I would just like to point out, for the record, how so genuinely tone-deaf this thumbnail is. It vaguely reminds me of that situation with the Rihanna and Chris Brown would you rather. The fact that you have the audacity to put the abuser and vitcim together in the thumbnail with hearts is actually unsettling its crazy. Your view-raking treatment of this situation just goes to show just how little you care, all you see is money to be made. Why not treat this situation with any amount of seriousness whatsoever, link to sites to support victims of domestic abuse, link to Shubble's socials and redirect your viewer base to show her support, for the sake of humanity do something contributional!!
im glad someone mentioned this lmao
That’s what I’m saying
I appreciate that you spoke out about the thumbnail, was looking through comments to see if someone else had said anything about it.
He directed them to shubbles vod in the vid though, I agree about the thumbnail
@@kirbztrea4209 Tubbo redirected people to the vod, not the uploader :(
Man, I really hope Shubble is getting the support and peace they deserve. Im glad tubbo, ranboo, aims, etc have stood up for her as without their word im sure some people may of not realised how shitty this entire thing is.
well shelby supporters took it to far as d0xxing wilbur and sending him death threats I know what wilbur did was wrong but taking it too far is not cool..
@@franzcatapat102 Yeah, but that isn't Shubble's fault, and that doesn't justify Wilbur's actions. Sure, its uncool, but the fan's actions don't reflect nor should be put on the idol.
@@We.are.disappointmentsim not putting it on shelby what im saying is its not cool to dox people because they did something extremely wrong look im not supporting wilbur but doxxing people was far.. there so many what could happen if a person was doxxed
They could kidnapped
The people could rob the house
im saying for the last time i dont support wilbur nor shelby but doxxing is too far.
plus they were sending him death threats
im not putting it on shelby but they are some people doxxing him because he did someone extremely wrong but i wanna say the some private live should remain private because doxxing a person just because he did a extremely wrong thing doesnt mean you can dox him or death threat him there was so many things that that could happen when you are doxxed
The person will be kidnapped
the persons house will be robbed
And im not saying that i support wilbur but doxxing is too far
"I AM NOT SUPPORTING WILBUR NOR SHELBY BECAUSE ITS THEIR ARGUMENT NOT US WE HAVE NO RIGHTS TO GO SLIP RIGHT IN AND DOX EACH OTHER".
This is sad, but true it hurts for me to unfollow him but it makes me sick to keep following him
Tubbo genuinely handled this really well by telling everyone to go to shubbles vod before he even began.
I feel physically sick that I looked up to him so much. I learned guitar because of him, my first song on it was Jubilee Line and now I'm just wrecked on what to do now. I've been holding back tears since I'm not home yet but holy fuck.
I literally haven't listened to anything besides Wilbur/Lovejoy songs now I'm trying to move away. Dunno what to do now.
It’s okay don’t let this hold you back!your probably amazing at the guitar! it’s okay use what you have learned and make something new with it make it your own instead.You can find a new inspiration and make it more better.
u can listen to cavetown... their music is my comfort
Don't let this stop you from playing. He may have inspired you, but that was YOUR discipline you harnessed. Take it for yourself and make it yours. It's no longer for or because of him. It's your talent you've created, the original reasoning be damned.
it’s not the common opinion but you know I do believe in “separate art from artist” thing. the most important thing is the message putted in the art. I can’t say that these songs are calling me for violence. these songs about else and they’ve played a big role in my art. I do not support Wilbur but I can’t rip off the part of my art that has been influenced by his music. if I would do so I would be just devastated and in some kind of depressed. in conclusion you’ve looked up not for Wilbur as a person, you’ve looked up for music that inspired you. you have a right to listen and growing on something that you like, yet separate your attitude to artist.
hope it’s not so messed up written, sorry for my bad knowledge of language.
You could listen to Billy Joel. He has a lot of amazing songs I think you’d like 😊
Will you update us if Tommy or Philza gives a response?
Tommy's might not be for a while, because he probably isn't going to stream while he's on tour, but Phil's should come soon.
This will affect everyone who was close to Wilbur. I keep seeing people wanting them to respond faster, when they are still getting their head around it.
Also, it's been THREE DAYS. THREE DAYS. give them time to think, and fully get their head around how messed up Wilbur actually was.
Edit: Tommy has said to give love and support to Shubble, while Philza has banned all Wilbur emotes in his chat. I will update you guys if they give statements (if you don't have Twitter/X), or if they stream about it.
Edit #2: People who are supporting Shubble!
TommyInnit
Dream
Aimsey
Billzo
Punz
Hannah Rose
Philza
Jack Manifold
Tubbo
Quackity
(THIS LIST WILL BE UPDATED!)
I also feel so bad for Tommy. Like I’m NOT AT ALL saying Wilbur is in the right and that shubbles thoughts should be disregarded. Bud I feel so bad for Tommy because he looked up to Wilbur as a role model and a brother figure. And now that’s all been torn away from him and he’s probably so confused rn..
@@annie.stromboli
Same. I admired their relationship, wanting to have that "Brother Bond" that they were known for. And now they are gone. I still don't, and probably ever won't again, support Wilbur's actions, or content, but I hope he releases a better apology, because I don't know if you saw his response, but it was really bad. I hope he gets better and becomes a better person in the future.
@@ToomerInnit I saw his response and I think it’s appalling how his ‘apology’ didn’t even have the word sorry in it. Also he literally took all the focus away from the victim and put it on himself. It’s like he didn’t actually address the important things because he couldn’t think of anything to cover it up with. So you bite someone and blame it on being in a bad place? It’s just not okay. And I feel so sorry for everyone whose supported him and not to mention the amount of careers he’s ruined. What are lovejoy supposed to do?
@@annie.stromboli
I'm not sure what direction Lovejoy is steering in, but I hope the band members (Minus Wilbur) feel okay. I mainly feel bad for the people who spent so much money on merch, or tickets to their shows. What he did wasn't okay, so like I said, I will no longer be supporting his actions and content.
Philza has banned all Wilbur soot emotes in his twitch chat.
This is kinda sad
Is is
My child side of me is screaming at me to just ignore..but i cant. I looked up to Wilbur so much..im absolutely shattered right now..I hope Shubble is getting the support she deserves.. Wilbur needs to stop with the bullsh!t exuses and actually apologize. But NOT to us, his fans. But to Shubble, his friends, and anyone else that he hurt. Please learn to take responsibility for your actions Wilbur...
Crazy how everything has just went downhill since Technoblade left. Everything has just been breaking, and their friendships are all going to be impacted by this. First the whole drama between Quackity and Dream, and now this for Wilbur. Atleast Technoblade was spared from all of this and didnt get to see all his friends come to a state like this...
This! I miss Technoblade so much, but I'm really glad he's not alive to see this, it would break his heart...
Learn the news was so shattering the child in me want to ignore it think of him as just a UA-camr . But abuse is so serious I can’t.I love stubble and she is so strong for being able to tell everyone about what has happened to her. The apology that he gives is so bad he doesn’t even take responsibility for his actions. So many people looked up to will and saw him as a role model and a person that brought happiness and help so many people through hard ships where they couldn’t see the light at the end and he him has caused hardship and pain that is unforgivable and shatter the hope and trust of so many. support victims such as Shelby, we all love her and she deserves all the love.
This is so messed up, Wilbur looks so innocent I'd never think that he'd do something like this
He doesn't look innocent at all
@@Dog_In_DisguiseThats more of his character though. The character does not always have to reflect their true personality.
@@Dog_In_Disguise idk to me he always looked innocent
did he really? Im not really aware of whats happening. Where can I see full context?
@@Kato.__shubbles stream and his awful "apology" on twitter
It shocked me when wilbur came forward as the abuser it made me feel sick to my stomach and as someone who was mentally and physically abused I felt horrible hearing the things he did to Shelby I really do hope Shelby is doing better now
I can’t believe Wilbur did that stuff.. literally feel sick.. I wouldn’t think he would ever do that. I feel so bad for Shelby and I hope she will be ok. And I hope Wilbur will be better and get some major help.. And I feel so bad for Tommy as well, like he looks up to will so much😭🫶🏻 I’m just so surprised. I was just talking about will and how he’s so nice and I love his music. Then he comes out as an Abuser?.! Just crazy.. #supportshubble
I was aghast at this when seeing some of this from discord and then fully seeing this. Jeez louise. 😭
they're not allegations. it's real life. there are victims. I hope shubble's doing okay #shubblesupportsquad
they're not allegations, he is a confirmed abuser!
I haven’t read the response but i belive nothing is confirmed 100% yet
@@LeonJaden go read the response, which is shit by the way, he makes it all about himself and doesn't even apologize, everyone is dropping him too.
@@LeonJadenhe doesn’t deny it in the slightest. His “apology” confirmed it.
@@TianaD-ew1vk yeah and also it’s just so obvious 💀
That s because it's not an apology. it's HIS view on what happened. He only admitted to CONSENTUAL biting. There is more proof Shelby actually hurt Wilbur atm plus Shelby has allegations of $@ against her atm
Poor shelby i hope she is doing better #supportshubble❤
I really hope Wilbur improves as becoming better as a person is the best apology.
I feel sick. He genuinely was someone who I watched when I was super depressed. Now knowing about it. I don’t know how to feel because my favourite person is just a horrible disgusting person.
Don’t put somone so low like that, all you do is spread more hate. From what we know he is getting therapy now and its best to wait it out before calling anyone a disgusting person.
The thing is, the “apology” isn’t actually an apology: it’s a statement.
THIS NEWS WAS DROPPED TO ME WHEN I WAS AT SCHOOL, I FAKED BEING SICK TO COME HOME AND RESEARCH, JESUS....
Tubbo handled this so well and I’m so greatful that he stuck up for Shelby ❤ #shelbysupport
I feel to bad Shelby. She don't deserved all this. She deserved a better place to live. and I feel bad to Quackity because ik he love him so much as a friend to him now i dont think Quackity will make wine stream with Wilbur anymore who knows. We just have to wait it see. If Quackity said any words to Wilbur if not I understand how it hurts so much to Quackity losing a friend. But yes I do feel bad that Quackity and his admins that were work so hard on it and they did not know any of there friends solution just like Forever got exposed and kick Qsmp Too. Please support Shelby
ok so there’s a lot of mixed opinions/ points of views in here but i support anybody who like got abused but like it’s clear that will was not in a good place like mentally during that time and which like obviously is no excuse but also there’s pictures of him with obvious like bruises so like idk if it was like both of them were abusing each other or something but like i would support both of them i think because like obviously will was like depressed or smthn and like depression is bad but like that’s no excuse to hurt someone and also like im a bit biased because i used to look up to wilbur so much but i kind of feel bad for him bc everyone who was his friend is now just like absolutely like “OHH FUCK YOU WILBUR OMG FUCK U BITCH” and like i know what it feels like to just be absolutely hated on by people who you thought were your friends but like honestly idk now im just kinda info dumping i feel bad for both of them but it’s like i don’t really believe will could do something like that and it’s really just heart breaking but i still support stubble either way because abuse = bad but also like girlie pop if you are getting abused like go to the police not just twitter/twitch like im not saying it’s a bad thing bc he did bad stuff but u basically ruined wilbur’s entire career when you really should have gone to the police and it was very irresponsible for her to post it on twitch in my opinion
1. Made her mother go outside in the rain to vote
2. Hypocritical about her political views
3. Made Wilbur change the lyrics to a song
4. Walked with with her ex-boyfriend when Wilbur was clearly in a depressive episode over the death of a friend (I don't know about you, but that's not an acceptable attitude to have towards a partner)
5. Believes that a partner has no right to change their point of view and is obligated to be with her
6. Considers a relationship toxic if she isn't complimented
7. Believes that she has the right to publish details of someone's personal life
8. Constantly referred to Wilbur's statement as an apology, which many now actually think is an apology. No, it's his take on the situation, which he mentions several times
9. Lied about Wilbur abusing her financially
10. Lied about neither of her boyfriends meeting her parents, when there's literally a stream of Wilbur talking about meeting his girlfriend's parents online
11. Is dismissive of mental health
And people just turn a blind eye to it because she brought up the abuse first. If it were a white man who acted the way she does, everyone would be trying to cancel him already
I hope anyone who was hurt by this situation is able to heal, I feel sick angry and sad about this but I can't ignore this one. I hope Shelby can continue to heal.
Not the Chippi chippi chappa chappa man 😂 1:35
*Serious talk*
CHUPI CHUPI CHAPA CHAPA DUBI DUBI DABA DABA
I don’t know everything about this yet. But was it confirmed that it was Wilbur? Please I need to know this since Shelby didn’t say his name in the vod last I checked. Also when I heard ranboo drop the f-bomb I was like HOLY CRAP-
sorry but wil himself confirmed it
Dude why did wilbur even have to such horrible things? He had this whole thing and fame and decided to make such disgusting decisions and things. All support to shelby❤
It is so hard to watch someone who you loved and practically looked up to end up doing bad things like this. I almost don't want to believe these things. Worst part is, it is actually impossible to be on Wilburs side. What he did was wrong and I am forever on Shelbys side for this. Heartbreaking really to see a youtuber and streamer who you cared about get called out for something so horrible... I never expected any of this to be true.
I’m crying and it hurts my chest I hate getting attached
It’s okay I’m a tubbling and we will gladjng have our arms open you you Wilbur be viewers even if you don’t wanna watch Tubbo streams, we would gladly be here for anyone
@@embersayshi I can only trust tubbo technoblades dad Quackity and Tommy they comfort me the most when I’m in a bad mood
@@embersayshi Heyyyy, ummm… ok so, I’m really sorry, but please can I just ask you something? (In the comments of course, not weirdly). I just wanted to talk to someone about all this, because in Tubbo’s stream he said ‘if you even think of defending Wilbur, then you can unfollow and get out of this community’. I don’t support Wilbur but I like him. I don’t like Shubble (her content just isn’t for me) but I do support her. I think abuse is wrong, but now I feel like I don’t deserve to follow Tubbo or even be in his chat because I don’t completely agree with, or understand his approach. I get that he is shocked and angry, I am too (mainly confused though) but I hate all the hostility and I don’t know whether I would be accepted into dear old tubble’s community because of my views. :(
@@Duny4-ni6gu I don’t think that’s what he ment I think what he ment was if u support him in this situation and thin abuse it okay then unfollow but you just like his content.your not supporting him for his actions. your supporting Shelby in this type of situation and Your not supporting him,you like the art he is making and you are allowed.your not doing anything wrong.Your neutral and I am to.I support Shelby in this situation but some people are taking it to far and saying things that are way out of line m.He is human as will.
@@embersayshi Thank you so so so much. I was really worried and felt like a disgrace :( I just needed some validation 🙏
Yk if Wilbur had kept his mouth shut literally he would still have his friends and ppl defending him. But lit that apology was the worst it was “yes I did it but..” it’s like when I was upset I’d turn to Wilbur soot but hearing he did this is.. I want to hurt him bc that isn’t flipping right and it’s horrible
Chill with the thumbnails my guy
Mad respect to tubbo for him making it clear that he does not support will in the slightest
Here he lost everything Wilbur, so why are we still doing this? The poor guy just wants to give him a rest.
okay so obviously i don’t support domestic abuse but the thing is why is wilbur getting a bunch of hate and stuff bc ppl have basically only heard shelby’s side of the story how does she have proof that wilbur actually abused her?
At this point I want all of this to be a joke . A joke just for fame and shit . I know that would still be a bad thing but not as bad as this . Honestly I qanna wake up tomorrow and realize this is all a dream . A very very veryyyy bad one .😢
I wish this was all a horrible nightmare, because I still can't believe it...
I hope to see a big wave of support for Shelby from content creators in the next few days. It must have been really hard for her to share their story about someone more famous than her, so I think the best thing would be as much vocal and public support as possible from other public figures, especially people who know/knew Wilbur personally. I hope Tubbo and Ranboo's statements are helping them in this hard moment.
As tubbo once said "all good things must come to an end eventually" wilbur why. I hope shubbles doing ok #ShubbleSupport
I feel fucking bad for niki and tommy like they were so close to wilbur like why. So many shit has changed sice techno left us
Ok what Wilbur did was wrong but he does not deserve to be getting death threats please stop
@misfitsfuneral so you support murderers good to know
seeing everyone reacting and being disgusted with his response kinda prove everything
no bc i never liked wilbur….i always had an odd feeling. we know why i guess.
This thumbnail is really gross.
He used to be my favorite, like what the hell im so mad that he did that. Im feel so bad for shelby. i hope the consequences catch up to him.
It really hurts to see everyone blindly support Shelby and not even think to even consider looking into the situation she literally provided absolutely no evidence told everyone metal illnesses are not an excuse and manipulated her audience not one but two times Shelby is a disgusting person I can’t believe people support her if your going to be on anyone’s side support Wilbur there is more then enough evidence to support will
Except for the fact that Wilbur himself has admitted it
Because mental illnesses aren't an excuse to be a shitty and abusive person. Or do you actually believe that beung mentally ill is an excuse for abuse?
Tbh I haven’t touched this fandom in years but just seeing how much everyone grew apart is heartbreaking and now hearing about all this it just makes me feel insane. I’m sorry to Shelby and all the things she suffered through. THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION FOR ABUSE. It really makes you wonder what other creators are hiding.
Oh shit
I'm sorry to say it but if you can't see wilburs issues that he needs help for then your not a good fan! If it even got to this point without him getting help then that proves the same thing and now your putting so much more stress on him and he might quit and do worse things because you fake fans didn't help his stress and problems weighing him down
I know this is a serious topic, but
"If any viewer in this stream-"
*"CHIPI CHIPI CHAPA CHAPA"*
I wish I began watching the dream smp sooner before all the allegations. This whole thing is a shit hole.
Im not gonna support wilbur anymore, i will miss his old self when he didnt di anything wrong, i will just genuinely miss him but i am NEVER gonna support an abuser, when i found out, i thought it was a rumor and all fake when people said it was Wilbur without solid proof, but even the lovwjoy ex trumpet player, the lovejoy photograoher and an old member of the soothouse have agreed with it, i wanted to just wake up and it all be a dream, since Technoblade passed everything has gone down hill, Dream and Quackity drama about the qsmp, Dream getting accused of being a groomer, now Wilbur is an abuser and we didnt know before
No offense though im not in anyone side but if Shelby was literally going through all that if she has the confidence to say it through the whole internet she could have been also be brave to tell it to an adult to help her or a police....
He have already change,and the word or what they say that people be what others say will really change the person ,so please we must stop minding other people businesses cuz I don't think it help to fix their problems faster in a right way of course i also feel sorry for Shelby to how wilbur acts to her but people that have no idea what their going through and what happened to them in the past yet keeps on dooxing them and giving them negative verbal or nonverbal actions or threatening them makes their situation worst and this words are not only for them but also for the people that might have the same situation 😢
Remember sugar and salt look the same.
Imagine having friends like these.
Why dis he have to do it tho, out of all people. Why couldnt some irrelevant youtuber have done it like purpled or punz (ITS A JOKE CALM DOWN)
The thumbnail just isnt it fr
It's hard to process that people who you've enjoyed to watch in the past turn out to be terrible people. His music is pretty good, everyone thought he was a great person, and then it turns out that he was a terrible person. The person who made the donation to play that song at 1:35 was really just disrespectful. I only started watching all of these people over a year since Technoblade was gone, and it's just... really depressing to see everything fall apart like this.
I feel so bad for Tommy, first his idol died and now someone who he believed was a good person, his best friend has now been exposed for who he really is
I am just finding out about this today (i don’t have any social media except UA-cam) and normally I try to avoid drama among UA-camrs and not pick sides but fucking hell I’m picking Shubble’s side. Hearing about what he did makes me sick to my stomach. No amount of “sorrys” from him will ever make this ‘okay’ #shubblesupportsquad #noexcuseforabuse
I really don't know what words to use to express what I think about this... Wilbur... He was one of my favorite English-speaking UA-camrs, he always said that his, Tubbo and Tommy were my favorites, but He was always first... I had respect for Wilbur, I admired him and he came out with that out of nowhere, he was doing homework while reading the whole situation... I try to hold back my tears a little and since I'm with my parents I have to hide my displeasure, but since I saw this I haven't been able to be normal... It was already a stressful day for them to come up with this, the only thing I thought about was waiting for my best friend, a friend who also admires Wilbur a lot and probably doesn't know about it, to connect to the chat to tell her all this... I feel like she will be more disappointed than me
I think its so messed up that people are still trying to not cancel him. I know people love Wilbur, but he did something messed up. I was so excited for Lovejoys new song to come out but now I dont want to listen to it anymore.
My inner child is literally having her heart ripped out rn. I just can’t believe this. I haven’t done a lot of research but I’m so fucking shocked
At this point, I'm ignoring everything negative related to these fuckers. I've watched their stuff for years, loved it all, and have been defending them constantly. Now? Everything is falling apart, and I don't care anymore. I'm done
The fact that in that ENTIRE so called "apology" he avoided and ignored using the actual words "I'm sorry" is a genuine shocker to me. Usually if theres a youtuber doing a fake apology , they atleast say at some point the words "I'm sorry" . I thought of Wilbur Soot as an idol, but this has just disgusted me.
You can't even call Wilburs response an apology. It was not even addressing it, at this point it was literally just confirmation. He invalidated her, he did not apologize, he talked about himself getting better and going to therapy as if he was the one who'd been traumatized. In in his literalmusic he talks about his failed relationships and how he was toxic. He should've addressed this way earlier on because we know damn well if Shubble had never said anything, he wouldnt of either. Wilbur used to be my comfort person, now he just disgusts me. All of my love to Shubble, she deserved so much better.
i saw someone say that they still support wilbur because they believe in second chances??? 😭
I know I’m months late to this drama but I still can’t believe this actually happened. It seems impossible that someone like Wilbur would do anything like that. It’s just a sad thing to think about.
the shitty apology is the next toxic gossip train
Just wanna say if Wilbur is looking for someone to bite ill drop my address :p
Me I love wilbur me remembering my age me put on 10?!!!!
balls
What a disgusting, insensitive thumbnail
i saw this thumbnail and couldn't watch this bc i didn't want to face the fact that i would have to unfollow someone today
Wilbur is genuinely a crazy person, this whole time we thought it was a skit or the character he played but it really was the real him, even the apology lacked any effort or care so sad he would throw away a career like that man.
Forgive my french but who the Fuck cares about his career ? He abused someone - maybe that matters like a bit more then how much money he makes ?
@@crazagres1839 I’m just saying it’s a shame
@@Kittenbiscuits216 Once again, who cares ? It's not even close to important.
@@crazagres1839 once again if you don’t care don’t comment
@@Kittenbiscuits216 Just correcting an absolute moron. Par for the course, really.
bro tubbo sounds so fkin mad(understandable)
The thumbnail of this vid is ridiculous honestly. Who the hell runs this shit?
Why is it so hard to watch these kind of videos first one technoblade dying that was hard dream face real and other stuff like that these videos are so hard to watch
They’re very quick to defend any other friend but it never occurred to them to defend dream wow
hes literally not defending wilbur and this is serious shit nothing to compare. wilbur is a domestic abuser and a manipulator.
I will never defend what he did, but I do think I’ll be able to move past it and still watch him. What he did was not ok, and that was not an apology. I don’t know what’s going to happen next but really hope things get better for everyone involved.
Me too. I'm not defending any abuse, no matter in which form but I really REALLY hope we can move on. I Hope Shelly never talks with him again. EVER
I was a huge fan of Wilbur for 3 years, i was in and out of watching the videos and recently came back about a month ago and the first thing I found was that Wilbur did this. At first I didn’t believe it but he confirmed it himself. Anyone saying that he didn’t do it is crazy. There were THREE PEOPLE saying he did the same to them. Tubbo was amazing for this
everone keeps saying that his apology was bad, which while I agree was a bit rushed and he should have waited to make a more put-together response, his apology covers everything pretty well, and he stresses that he doesn' want to invlaidate shelby's feelings. The entire idea that the apology is bad only works if you beleive everthin that shelby said blindly with no evidence. "he didn't adress everything" maybe that's because there wasnt things to adress?
It’s insane. It’s actually insane. I wouldn’t even call what Wilbur posted an apology, he doesn’t even own up to his actions. He’s not even trying to make up for what he did. No matter how big a fan they were before, nobody should support him. Everyone should be disgusted by these actions. I’m fairly sure everyone IS disgusted by his actions. Shubble is incredibly strong for being able to talk about that, and to tell him she didn’t accept that crap “apology.” She didn’t deserve to be treated that way. #SupportShubbleSquad
Absolutely heartbreaking. I feel sick, i cant believe it and im so genuinely upset by it. Wilbur was one of my favs streamers, one of my comfort streamers. He really helped me when i struggled with my mental health. And this happening is just fucking destroying me. I cant believe it at all. I hope he fucking makes a proper apology, a better one and a genuine one in private to shelby. Wilbur has lost 10m subs within 5 day's so thats good. But the notification i got from my friend messaging me asking if i saw the drama was not smth i expected on a good thursday night. No matter how much you liked Wilbur always support the victim.
#supportshubble
thumbnail was disrespectful, dont make clickbait out of abuse its disgusting
w music tho
dame he was so sereise about the hole unfolloie me thing but hes right if you surport abuse you have no place in this comunite (and i know i spellt evreything wrong dont bully me for it)
At least Wilbur admitted to it tbh
he didn’t! hope that helps ❤ /nm
@@slayheather he mad a bad apology abt it on twitter so he kinda did unfortunately
@@val3r1e0ff 1. it wasn’t an apology, shelby referred to it so much that people keep saying it’s an apology
2. making a “bad apology” doesn’t mean someone admitted to something
3. where?
4. yes, he said he admitted to being a shitty boyfriend at times, but that time his best friend had just died so he was still upset
5. being a shitty boyfriend and stuff doesn’t make you an abuser (because he isn’t)
Ok but im not saying anything to do with it bit with wilbur its not supporting domestic abuse its not, we don’t even know who it was yes and yes his response was NOT acceptable in any way but i do feel it would have taken a big toll on wilbur when the accusations came onto him straight away tho also in the “response” he does look under the influence of something but we dont even know who it is, it may be will but it also very much couldn’t. Stop blaming and support shelby for actually speaking about all this
The dads understandable but a twitch streamer bro western problems 😂try living in a 3rd world country
To be completely honest i looked up to Wilber...i found him a cool type of guy and i just couldn't believe when i found this on my fyp...im just shattered that the Wilber we knew actually did this and please give some love to Shelby cause she needs some really❤❤❤❤
Okay but fr the apology was bullshit.
It got worse and worse about him. This is the real him and now he deserve this.even ranboo said about him so many UA-camrs roasted him asf.
What minx said has me questioning everyone expect Shelby and the victims
As much as I love wil I just don’t know anymore I don’t know what to believe
they aren't allegations. he was an abuser, its been confirmed. stop making the situation less serious than it is.
i havent kept up with people from dsmp since 2021-ish. this situation, however is truly devastating. my support goes to shubble 💞🎀