Many, many years after, a journalist did to Ingrid Bergman this question:"What do you like so much in Joan of Arc?" And she answered with strenght:"Her courage". I think, for all her life, she was inspired by that courage
I adored this film as a child and have loved Ingrid Bergman all my life because of it .. well, that and the fact that she was a brilliant actress and made many good films.
R.I.P. Ingrid Bergman, a legendary Actress and to Victor Fleming (Oscar-Winning Director of Gone with the Wind and the Wizard of Oz) who directed this classic movie!
I bought this on an impulse off Ebay and didn't read I was getting the colorized version. How I regret it. It's like putting sugar on cherries. I say B&W only for this film. What a face Ingrid had as a young woman--not at all glamourous in this film; innocent and far beyond glamourous. Perfect bone structure. Color no way does it justice.
Stupenda pellicola ispirata alla vera storia di Giovanna d ' Arco, certo non è chissà che cosa ma comunque è interessante con battaglie realistiche e ben realizzate, quindi stupenda e stupenda per me come valutazione è 8.
@TheBenvoliomozart: Though one can say that unlike Alexander the Great or Frederick the Great she did not inherit a throne and an unequalled army, but had to convince her country, that she was send by the heavens to save France from the English oppression; and this makes her somewhat unique as she did not belong to the nobility and as it was not common in France that women fought in wars; the Viking tale of Hervor is pretty creditable, as there have been reports of female fighters amongst them.
@Ross Parker: Nope, as the English did not only stage the mock trial by French priests but also carried out the executions as it is written down in the trial files.
@saccyind: And there the problem originated: Since the Norman nobility kept her fiefdoms in France they had to pay homage to the French King, while being sovereigns of England themselves; this lead to increasing conflicts and Philip II Augustus of France did so utterly defeat King John of England that the epithet Lackland was given to him; and the second time was a fight about the French succession, since the House of Carpet did cease with Charles IV and the English Kings claimed the crown.
@saccyind: In fact our warlike Jeanne, was fighting much more for the righteousness of the succession of Charles VII than to repulse foreign invaders; though for her the realm and king formed a unity and her fighting against the English bears the signs of a national liberation war; but the modern concept of the nation state did develop back there and this innovation of hers did cause the English to oppose her with that malice and hatred; but she was condemned by French priests.
@saccyind: I heard nothing of that; and if you would taken some pains to study history you would notice that the Armagnac faction, warlike Jeanne was fighting with, was by no means known for its good conduct towards the French peasentry and city folks; just take the infamous Cabochien Revolt for example!
mean while down in the garden of rememberance joan is brewing up a whip round;-) hurry hurry ways are running out, but as long as the steps down are undauntated, the fox tries to stay ahead, the cubs are in his play ground always;-) much as the mind works the rise of the top, he who is not skinned has no need to skin.
@TheBenvoliomozart: One can never be sure, as Lucan said about Homer in his Pharsalia: “O sacred task of poets, toil supreme, Which rescuing all things from allotted fate Dost give eternity to mortal men! Grudge not the glory, Caesar, of such fame. For if the Latian Muse may promise aught, Long as the heroes of the Trojan time Shall live upon the page of Smyrna's bard, So long shall future races read of thee In this my poem; and Pharsalia's song Live unforgotten in the age to come.”
Nah, see, she's not like Tom Cruise, who is always Tom Cruise! Of course, reconginzed as far back as Selznick, that's due to what the audience wants, Bergman though, just as early, dissented that philosophy - Joan, Anastasia, Golda Meir, Maria (though Hemingway wrote that character with Bergman in mind), we're not supposed to see Ingrid in the part she plays at all, and imo she conveyed that idea quite well actually.
@lolalullababy E.g. King Henry VIII is in no way related to King William the Bastard. Just as Queen Elizabeth II today isn't relate in any way to Henry VIII. Different families and blood lines took control of the throne at different times.
@saccyind: The English assembled an ecclesial court at Rouen and had her tried for heresy and witchcraft and though the English mistreadings here seem to be sure one must not forget that but her trials stood under the influence of very biased parties: The English saw her guilty, while for the French nothing should stand against her innocence; and had the Church not so many doubts she would have been canonised 500 years ago and not due to popular demand recently.
@TheBenvoliomozart: So it may be that swift Achilles was no less alive than fierce Jeanne was; and may out life his fame due to Homer’s poetry; shamefully only the English poet Southey has written an epic about her; and the German poet Schiller, who has written a brilliant play about her (in order to annoy our Napoleon with France’s great heroine alluding with the play, called “The Maid of Orleans”, to fight the French hegemony) is not likely to become as famous as the Greek tragedians.
@TheBenvoliomozart: As for her historical achievements, I much fear that poor Vercingetorix does outshine her, since he was defeated by the Romans under Julius Caesar, while she did repulse the English under Talbot; and through the English are of German origin their name in arms is not great; recently they have been driven out of India by Ghandi with hunger strikes, non-violent protest, taxation boycotts and peace prayers. Though one can say the English did this to lessen her fame.
@saccyind: There is no such things as evil acts in medieval European warfare! And France fought not so much against England in the middle ages than against his own and the Norman nobility! Remember: Duke William, who conquered England 1066 AD and therefore won the epilet of The Conqueror as king, was of Normandy and therefore a henchman to the French crown and once mustr consider at least the first too centuries afterwards a foreign rule, since not even Richard Lionheart spoke English!
@saccyind: Since Edward III of England was the son of Queen Isabella, who was daughter to King Philip IV of France and his next heir, though the Salic Law does bar any succession form the female line; and this caused the English Kings to invade France for about 100 years, until their final defeat in Southern France; where Talbot was slain in battle. So the entire conflict was purely medieval feuding and none of the modern terminology you used is proper here.
I LOVE this movie, except for the part where she talks to idols. The Bible forbids it, since they are made with hands. It's a long historical explanation, but the Catholic "church" omits the 2nd Commandment that says "Thou Shalt Not Make Thee Any Graven Images". Just alerting you.
This film shows how the Battle of the Alamo (year 1836) should have been fought: =================================================================== Had the Texians & Tejanos at the Alamo (San Antonio de beXar, Texas) fought with similar military tactics as the English at the Tourelles fortification at Orleans (1429), then perhaps the Alamo would not have fallen? The odds at the Alamo were approx. 30 to 1 in favor of the Mexicans. i.e. 5000 Mexicans vs. 180+ Texians/Tejanos. This is the same ratio as the Korean Admiral had with his 12 ships going up against Japan's 330 ships - in the year 1597. The Korean Admiral won!! I don't now what the odds were at the Tourelles?, but the French troops and Joan of Arc were victorious! [JOKE: Why did Davy Crockett go to the Alamo? ANSWER: He was hunting bear and he saw on the map where X marked the spot i.e. beXar] The Korean Admiral lured the Japanese ships into strong whirlpools/currents, while his flag ship remained stationary, bombarding the Japanese with heavy cannon fire. The Alamo defenders used slow loading, single shot muskets - and cannon. The English also used cannon, but also... The English used big rocks to hurl down upon the French climbing the walls. The English used crossbows and bow & arrows too, and swords and clubs and lances and battle axes. I believe that Joan of Arc was the half sister to Charles VII? Why do I believe that? Because of this JOKE I wrote which came to me out of the clear blue sky one day: What did Darth Gator say to the dolphin? "Fluke. You are my fodder." After I studied the life of Joan of Arc, this Joke occurred to me in conjunction with the previous: What did D'Arc Vader say to the Dolphin, Charles VII? "Fluke. I am your father." "Fluke", being the pet name of Jacques D'Arc for his illegitimate son the Dolphin of France. Remember (in this film) when Charles VII told Tremoille that he was a "Crocodile" ?(funny!) Jacques D'Arc (Joan of Arc's dark father) would have been 22 years old at the conception of Charles VII in the year 1402. Charles VII was born on Feb 22, 1403 and died on July 22, 1461. 22 is a SIGN to us all. It is a SIGN to me in conjunction with the fact that my sister and father (both deceased) were born on Feb 22 and July 22. Also: my nickname in high school (on the swim team) was "Flipper" (a famous dolphin) because of my size 15 shoe size. The TV show FLIPPER was my favorite growing up in the 1960's. And... I married a woman 22 years older than myself 7 years after having dated a woman who also happened to be 22 years older than myself. I was 22 years old at the time. July 22 is also important because it is the Feast Day of Mary Magdalene in the Catholic Church. I believe Joan of Arc (Jehanne D'Arc) was the return of Mary Magdalene, just as John the Baptist was the return of EliJAH. REMEMBER the Transfiguration when Moses and EliJAH both appeared " in all their glory" with Jesus. These 3 men are the Son of God. But only Jesus is the fullness thereof. Was Joan of Arc the fullness of the Holy Spirit made manifest? I think not. But Joan, Mary Magdalene, Simon Peter Bar-Jonah, and John Bar-Zebedee were sub-persons of the Holy Spirit made manifest. "Nothing is hidden that will not be made manifest" -- The Bible Peter(Pita/Peeta) is the holy spirit of Passover/Unleavened Bread/First Fruits. John is the holy spirit of Pentecost. He is the return of Elisha the prophet(served 50 years). Mary Magdalene is the holy spirit of Tabernacles and Yom Kippur. Jehanne D'Arc(Joan/Jeanne) is the holy spirit of Trumpets. THIS FILM is roaring with TRUMPETS!!! [just as, "The Admiral - Roaring Currents" was roaring with currents and whirpools] 2 THUMBS UP!! for Ingrid Bergman and her supporting cast
Many, many years after, a journalist did to Ingrid Bergman this question:"What do you like so much in Joan of Arc?" And she answered with strenght:"Her courage". I think, for all her life, she was inspired by that courage
I adored this film as a child and have loved Ingrid Bergman all my life because of it .. well, that and the fact that she was a brilliant actress and made many good films.
The great Ingrid Bergman she played the hell out of this role ❤️😎🤷🏽♀️
R.I.P. Ingrid Bergman, a legendary Actress and to Victor Fleming (Oscar-Winning Director of Gone with the Wind and the Wizard of Oz) who directed this classic movie!
RIP Joan, you will live forever in our hearts!
i love this actress..she is great
Merveilleuse Ingrid Bergman, dans le rôle d'un être extraordinaire: Jeanne la Pucelle.
I bought this on an impulse off Ebay and didn't read I was getting the colorized version. How I regret it. It's like putting sugar on cherries.
I say B&W only for this film. What a face Ingrid had as a young woman--not at all glamourous in this film; innocent and far beyond glamourous. Perfect bone structure. Color no way does it justice.
JESUS BLESSES SAINT JOAN
God rest her precious soul!!! :'-(
RIP Ingrid Bergman!
this is history we England and France are friends now Joan of arc was a very brave woman but remember these were barbaric times
¡¡Please Anmili, upload the entire movie!! Thanks
Stupenda pellicola ispirata alla vera storia di Giovanna d ' Arco, certo non è chissà che cosa ma comunque è interessante con battaglie realistiche e ben realizzate, quindi stupenda e stupenda per me come valutazione è 8.
@TheBenvoliomozart: Though one can say that unlike Alexander the Great or Frederick the Great she did not inherit a throne and an unequalled army, but had to convince her country, that she was send by the heavens to save France from the English oppression; and this makes her somewhat unique as she did not belong to the nobility and as it was not common in France that women fought in wars; the Viking tale of Hervor is pretty creditable, as there have been reports of female fighters amongst them.
@Ross Parker: Nope, as the English did not only stage the mock trial by French priests but also carried out the executions as it is written down in the trial files.
This reminds me of a story that I wrote a while ago.
god was glorified--she was declared a saint, and the ppl who burned her were put to shame. however, god does forgive.
@saccyind: And there the problem originated: Since the Norman nobility kept her fiefdoms in France they had to pay homage to the French King, while being sovereigns of England themselves; this lead to increasing conflicts and Philip II Augustus of France did so utterly defeat King John of England that the epithet Lackland was given to him; and the second time was a fight about the French succession, since the House of Carpet did cease with Charles IV and the English Kings claimed the crown.
@saccyind: In fact our warlike Jeanne, was fighting much more for the righteousness of the succession of Charles VII than to repulse foreign invaders; though for her the realm and king formed a unity and her fighting against the English bears the signs of a national liberation war; but the modern concept of the nation state did develop back there and this innovation of hers did cause the English to oppose her with that malice and hatred; but she was condemned by French priests.
where can i watch the whole movie?
THANKS!!!
I agree.
both of them, and of course, the church
@saccyind: I heard nothing of that; and if you would taken some pains to study history you would notice that the Armagnac faction, warlike Jeanne was fighting with, was by no means known for its good conduct towards the French peasentry and city folks; just take the infamous Cabochien Revolt for example!
mean while down in the garden of rememberance joan is brewing up a whip round;-)
hurry hurry ways are running out, but as long as the steps down are undauntated, the fox tries to stay ahead, the cubs are in his play ground always;-) much as the mind works the rise of the top, he who is not skinned has no need to skin.
@TheBenvoliomozart: One can never be sure, as Lucan said about Homer in his Pharsalia:
“O sacred task of poets, toil supreme, Which rescuing all things from allotted fate Dost give eternity to mortal men! Grudge not the glory, Caesar, of such fame. For if the Latian Muse may promise aught, Long as the heroes of the Trojan time Shall live upon the page of Smyrna's bard, So long shall future races read of thee In this my poem; and Pharsalia's song Live unforgotten in the age to come.”
Pepper spokesman firmly respect recovery port threaten.
Ingrid of Arc ...
Nah, see, she's not like Tom Cruise, who is always Tom Cruise! Of course, reconginzed as far back as Selznick, that's due to what the audience wants, Bergman though, just as early, dissented that philosophy - Joan, Anastasia, Golda Meir, Maria (though Hemingway wrote that character with Bergman in mind), we're not supposed to see Ingrid in the part she plays at all, and imo she conveyed that idea quite well actually.
@lolalullababy E.g. King Henry VIII is in no way related to King William the Bastard. Just as Queen Elizabeth II today isn't relate in any way to Henry VIII. Different families and blood lines took control of the throne at different times.
Which joan movie is this?
@saccyind: The English assembled an ecclesial court at Rouen and had her tried for heresy and witchcraft and though the English mistreadings here seem to be sure one must not forget that but her trials stood under the influence of very biased parties: The English saw her guilty, while for the French nothing should stand against her innocence; and had the Church not so many doubts she would have been canonised 500 years ago and not due to popular demand recently.
The same wicked elite who had Joan of Arc burned, were the same types who had Christ crucified.
@TheBenvoliomozart: So it may be that swift Achilles was no less alive than fierce Jeanne was; and may out life his fame due to Homer’s poetry; shamefully only the English poet Southey has written an epic about her; and the German poet Schiller, who has written a brilliant play about her (in order to annoy our Napoleon with France’s great heroine alluding with the play, called “The Maid of Orleans”, to fight the French hegemony) is not likely to become as famous as the Greek tragedians.
@TheBenvoliomozart: As for her historical achievements, I much fear that poor Vercingetorix does outshine her, since he was defeated by the Romans under Julius Caesar, while she did repulse the English under Talbot; and through the English are of German origin their name in arms is not great; recently they have been driven out of India by Ghandi with hunger strikes, non-violent protest, taxation boycotts and peace prayers. Though one can say the English did this to lessen her fame.
Costumes by Dorothy Jeakins and Varvara Karinska.
Jeanne d'Arc
@saccyind: There is no such things as evil acts in medieval European warfare! And France fought not so much against England in the middle ages than against his own and the Norman nobility! Remember: Duke William, who conquered England 1066 AD and therefore won the epilet of The Conqueror as king, was of Normandy and therefore a henchman to the French crown and once mustr consider at least the first too centuries afterwards a foreign rule, since not even Richard Lionheart spoke English!
@saccyind: Since Edward III of England was the son of Queen Isabella, who was daughter to King Philip IV of France and his next heir, though the Salic Law does bar any succession form the female line; and this caused the English Kings to invade France for about 100 years, until their final defeat in Southern France; where Talbot was slain in battle. So the entire conflict was purely medieval feuding and none of the modern terminology you used is proper here.
I LOVE this movie, except for the part where she talks to idols. The Bible forbids it, since they are made with hands.
It's a long historical explanation, but the Catholic "church" omits the 2nd Commandment that says "Thou Shalt Not Make Thee Any Graven Images". Just alerting you.
¡¡¡Please!!!¡¡¡Please!!!¡¡¡Please!!! Upload your movie to UA-cam. ¡¡¡Please mojave19!!!
This film shows how the Battle of the Alamo (year 1836) should have been fought:
===================================================================
Had the Texians & Tejanos at the Alamo (San Antonio de beXar, Texas) fought with similar military tactics as the English at the Tourelles fortification at Orleans (1429), then perhaps the Alamo would not have fallen? The odds at the Alamo were approx. 30 to 1 in favor of the Mexicans.
i.e. 5000 Mexicans vs. 180+ Texians/Tejanos. This is the same ratio as the Korean Admiral had with his 12 ships going up against Japan's 330 ships - in the year 1597. The Korean Admiral won!! I don't now what the odds were at the Tourelles?, but the French troops and Joan of Arc were victorious!
[JOKE: Why did Davy Crockett go to the Alamo?
ANSWER: He was hunting bear and he saw on the map where X marked the spot i.e. beXar]
The Korean Admiral lured the Japanese ships into strong whirlpools/currents, while his
flag ship remained stationary, bombarding the Japanese with heavy cannon fire.
The Alamo defenders used slow loading, single shot muskets - and cannon.
The English also used cannon, but also...
The English used big rocks to hurl down upon the French climbing the walls.
The English used crossbows and bow & arrows too, and swords and clubs and lances and
battle axes.
I believe that Joan of Arc was the half sister to Charles VII? Why do I believe that?
Because of this JOKE I wrote which came to me out of the clear blue sky one day:
What did Darth Gator say to the dolphin? "Fluke. You are my fodder."
After I studied the life of Joan of Arc, this Joke occurred to me in conjunction with the previous:
What did D'Arc Vader say to the Dolphin, Charles VII? "Fluke. I am your father."
"Fluke", being the pet name of Jacques D'Arc for his illegitimate son the Dolphin of France.
Remember (in this film) when Charles VII told Tremoille that he was a "Crocodile" ?(funny!)
Jacques D'Arc (Joan of Arc's dark father) would have been
22 years old at the conception of Charles VII in the year 1402.
Charles VII was born on Feb 22, 1403 and died on July 22, 1461.
22 is a SIGN to us all. It is a SIGN to me in conjunction with the fact that my sister and father
(both deceased) were born on Feb 22 and July 22.
Also: my nickname in high school (on the swim team) was "Flipper" (a famous dolphin) because of
my size 15 shoe size. The TV show FLIPPER was my favorite growing up in the 1960's.
And... I married a woman 22 years older than myself 7 years after having dated a woman
who also happened to be 22 years older than myself. I was 22 years old at the time.
July 22 is also important because it is the Feast Day of Mary Magdalene in the Catholic
Church.
I believe Joan of Arc (Jehanne D'Arc) was the return of Mary Magdalene, just as John the
Baptist was the return of EliJAH. REMEMBER the Transfiguration when Moses and
EliJAH both appeared " in all their glory" with Jesus. These 3 men are the Son of
God. But only Jesus is the fullness thereof.
Was Joan of Arc the fullness of the Holy Spirit made manifest?
I think not. But Joan, Mary Magdalene, Simon Peter Bar-Jonah, and John Bar-Zebedee
were sub-persons of the Holy Spirit made manifest. "Nothing is hidden that will not
be made manifest" -- The Bible
Peter(Pita/Peeta) is the holy spirit of Passover/Unleavened Bread/First Fruits.
John is the holy spirit of Pentecost. He is the return of Elisha the prophet(served 50 years).
Mary Magdalene is the holy spirit of Tabernacles and Yom Kippur.
Jehanne D'Arc(Joan/Jeanne) is the holy spirit of Trumpets.
THIS FILM is roaring with TRUMPETS!!!
[just as, "The Admiral - Roaring Currents" was roaring with currents and whirpools]
2 THUMBS UP!! for Ingrid Bergman and her supporting cast
She was burned by the French.
i don't believe, that the voices were from god.
Joan of arc was black the 1500 were black
She was not white