Many people appear to hold a strong dislike for the idea of toys being possessed, likely due to the focus on the MCI kids. Some, like myself, have referred to it as the DCI (Deceased Children Incident) because of the deceased children in the minigame. The DCI children were only shown in one game and were never mentioned again. In Fnaf 6, where everything was resolved and everyone seemed content, even the MCI (if Molten MCI is accurate), the DCI was not addressed. The lack of recognition for the DCI led to the belief that it was not important, causing it to be ignored and dismissed. However, this is just my personal take on the situation.
Or it’s just the fact that the toys are tapped into the criminal database, and likely are also able to contact the police, as the radio allegedly mentions a frontal lobe.
Personally I believe that the Save Them minigame is likely William destroying the withered animatronics and taking the dead bodies out of them, probably to experiment with remnant and to prevent Fazbear Entertainment from finding the bodies. It doesn’t make a lot of sense for a company that is trying to move past their past to further ignore a huge issue and the only reason for Afton not being in prison. It also would make more sense for William returning to experiment with new ideas such as remnant rather than to repeat his previous work and murder 5 more random children. Besides, where would he have gotten 5 more children while he was working the night shift? And to cover my bases the whole “save them” part probably refers to the fact that when souls are split between 2 hosts then it becomes harder to set the souls free, case in point Andrew from Fazbear Frights. Of course the happiest day mini game is probably the biggest counter to my theory, I feel like it was a huge loose end that doesn’t really have an explanation yet.
6:14 I actually believe that not because of Phone Guy, but because of one of the early teasers for FNaF 2 saying ”Something borrowed, something new” with both Withered and Toy Bonnie in the background (And also because that makes it so FNaF 2 doesn’t actively contradict itself, which is something you actually made a video on a while back)
I’m confused with the matter in which you speaking right now. Wouldn’t “Something borrowed, something new” be making it so that they did use parts from the original, since it states that the withereds connects with borrowed, and I can’t see it being much else besides parts were borrowed from the withereds, to make something new. Also what do you mean by it contradicting itself, I just want to know to better understand
@@shattergamesstudios Well yes, that is actually exactly what I was saying, though my phrasing may have been somewhat poor: Basically what I was trying to say is that the Toys were in fact built using parts from the original animatronics, but that I didn’t believe that because of Phone Guy, but rather because of that teaser quote. Sorry for the confusion lol Also the reason FNaF 2 contradicts itself if the DCI victims do in fact possess the Toy animatronics is that, through the phone calls, it is implied that the incident in question occurs during Jeremy’s week on the job, and yet, the Toys act aggressively towards the player from the get-go, which shouldn’t be happening if they aren’t possessed yet
@@Ozeglion oh, sorry, I thought your were trying to say the opposite, also your phasing was not poor, I will take all of the blame for that But yes, that contradicting thing your talking about is why I always believe they weren’t haunted, it just wouldn’t make any sense
The toy animatronics being possessed by the DCI kids also proves that everything Phone Guy said has already happened - that is, if he really was referring to the events of SAVETHEM - given that the toy animatronics have clearly been possessed since before night 1. ... WhichthenalsomeansthatPhoneGuy'scallsarenotforJeremyandhewasnotmovedtotheday-shiftbecausethatpartyalreadyhappenedandsodidthebite.
The thing with follow me kids possessing anything is they just disappear from the story. It’s possible that Henry had dealt with them by FNAF6 (perhaps he had kept the trashed animatronics and ended up testing the theory by releasing them via fire before he set up the Simulator). There was always the possibility that the toy animatronics were what ended up creating the remnant (or even the foundation) for the funtimes, but if that’s the case, Harry had no idea additional souls were involved, nor does any of the graveyard stuff (image, princess quest etc) So it’s mostly a narrative issue of neither the possessed animatronics nor the kids ever popping up again. Especially with the extra factor of the parts from the withereds being put into the toys would also explain the toys acting strange.
The 16 balloons requires a pretty big stretch to add up. The MCI + DCI = 10. Charlotte, Elizabeth, Micheal and even William himself are also part of a remnant/possession situation. That does leave 2 more. With Henry and Mrs Afton you have people that never possessed anything, or who died long ago. (Perhaps if Bellora does have Mrs Afton’s soul she can count, but Henry doesn’t unless there is some event we don’t know about. Andrew can fit as another spirit but: he could be one of the 5 DCI kids, since we know nothing about them. And UCN makes it pretty clear that he and Afton stay behind after at least some of the spirits move on. The lack of any mention, acknowledgement or hint about these kids in FNAF6 would imply they might have already passed on. It’s possible whatever remained of the toys was in the FNAF3 location and burned with it. This could even be something Henry investigated which led him to believe that his plan in FNAF6 would work. In this scenario, those first 10 balloons might represent spirits that passed on earlier. In which case Mrs Afton and the DCI would count. You could even include phone guy and maybe the victim of the bite of 87 if he later died. That leaves 2 others, but there could be other guards that might have died because of the animatronics. Then happiest day would be about the 6 passing on, with the previous 10 representing those that passed before they did. It would be hard for all 16 to be in the fnaf6 simulator unless molten Freddy was a lot more cluttered than originally thought. Maybe he does have all the toy spirits and mrs afton The big problem is ultimately that there was no follow up on the FNAF2 murders in the other games. I do like the idea of the Golden Freddy suit being used for those murders though, as it gives a great reason for one of the spirits in Golden Freddy to be the vengeful spirit that keeps him in UCN. The extra indignity on top of everything else.
You don’t have to possess something for your spirit to be set free, so that literally does not matter. And it isn’t a stretch. If it wasn’t true it would literally be an inconsistency. It’s very clearly intentional
@@ImpulseEvan37 it’s 16. You can get to that number a lot of different ways. You’ve included Henry and Mrs Afton and Andrew. But that excludes the Crying Child (or Cassidy). What about Phone Guy? He passed on but Mrs Afton didn’t? Or maybe he’s there but she isn’t. So ten extra balloons can be any 10 characters n the series that died. If it was at any Fazbear location, that’s at least a rule for narrowing it down. We have 5 MCI, Charlie and the Crying Child, but only 6 balloons in the main area. So, either CC or Cassidy doesn’t pass on, or is part of the first 10. With the DCI it’s leaves 4 or 5 more. Elizabeth and Mike died at tangentially related locations (circus baby’s pizza and rental respectively). Henry dies in the simulator. If Andrew is in the mix, wouldn’t he be with William? William dies at a Freddy’s, does he count? What about phone guy? Does CC even count since he dies at the hospital or at home? If the rule is “think of 10 people that died in the series” and you can pull from the frights books, there’s a lot f ways to add to 10. Charlie had a mother. Would her spirit be there? Why would Mrs Afton? When it can be just about anyone, it’s not very helpful or convincing. What about the other kids in masks in happiest day? Do they represent kids killed by William? Why do the balloons represent spirits but the kids not represent anything? [Actually double checked. There are 5 kids. That’s actually better evidence for the theory. The other 5 balloons would represent spirits not attached to any animatronic, if those 5 kids with masks represent the 5 DCI kids and them possessing animatronics.]
Either Cassidy is freed and the bite victim is attached to the mci kids which would set him free anyway, or Cassidy sticks around for whatever reason since she’s in security breach (depending on whether happiest day has happened yet or not) and the bite victim would be the kid in the golden Freddy mask. Afton isn’t included because he’s the murderer, so he wouldn’t be included in their “happiest day.” Andrew wouldn’t be with Afton because he eventually stops possessing afton and gets set free at a similar time to when the puppet does in the frights epilogues, indicating he’s in happiest day. Mike, Henry, Elizabeth and Mrs Afton are there because they died because of Afton himself. Phone is isn’t included because he was killed by the missing kids and his death had nothing to do with afton. Other random characters being there like Charlie’s mom (who never even died by the way) or the dead frights characters also wouldn’t be there, especially since freeing the spirits seems more to do with the killer dying in order for them to get closure, after which they can be freed depending on the context. Eleanor isn’t dead until the final epilogue, during which happiest day already happened and after which Jake is the one to set them free So it’s not just a guessing game, it’s easy to narrow down the characters that would probably be there and the ones who definitely wouldn’t.
@@ImpulseEvan37 so if we go with all the spirits of ppl “killed by Afton”, how is Mike or Henry counted? Mike is killed by Ennard. How is that different from Phone Guy being killed by a possessed animatronic? Both are killed by animatronics possessed because of Willam Afton, neither has Afton anywhere near the scene. If it’s “Afton built the funtimes and circus baby” then CC shouldn’t be there since Henry created the Springlocks. Or did William pull the plug and kill CC? All that aside, blaming Henry’s death on William is taking a ton of steps where Phone Guy would totally count. Henry chooses to die because of William’s actions, but how does that not butterfly out to anyone else that dies at the hands of animatronics that are only killing because of what William did? On the Andrew thing: So happiest day is not at the end of FNAF6, it’s not until after Afton and Andrew explode and then come back together as Stitchwraith before becoming the Afton Amalgamation where Afton is finally destroyed and the puppet rests. But none of the people killed by the Stitchwraith count as being killed by William Afton. But Henry does.
6:04 well, there's the teaser with Withered Bonnie and Toy Bonnie with the text "something borrowed... something new...", it's pretty self-explanatory imo. This theory is similar in concept to MoltenMCI
Even if that’s what that was implying, there’s no part in or on the toys that could be from the withereds. As I said, the only one that could is Mangle, but even that is questionable as the parts missing from the withereds don’t match the ones on mangle
@@ImpulseEvan37 well, Toy Chica without her beak clearly has an Endo 02 head. Then the other toys' endos are barely visible (unless you modify their FNaF VR and FNaF AR models, and then they're not even whole), so we can't be sure if they have parts from the withereds or not. But tbh, I don't think we have enough information to have a concrete answer to this question, especially since the games seem to give little importance to Save Them in general
@@Schokie732 yes, but the the withereds still have most of their parts, meaning they can’t have very many parts from the withereds or any, and since they have entire endoskeletons, there’s no reason they’d need the part as there’s not enough anyway
@@ImpulseEvan37 Phone Guy says the toys cost a small fortune, I wonder if Faz Ent actually used some parts of the withereds to reduce the cost of building the toys. But yeah, the withered have most of their parts (except Bonnie and Chica)
I was thinking about that spare parts line right before you debunked it. 1 thing though, in the case of machinery, and equipment, "scrapped" does typically mean destroyed. Think junkyards where you can buy parts from broken cars to fix yours, or going on ebay to find parted out laptops and gaming consoles. "Decommissioned" is the term that people mistakenly confuse with "scrapped". A decommissioned piece of equipment is [usually] carefully preserved for potential re-activation later. Naval vessels are an example, the US Navy was greatly reduced after WW2, with all the pre-war vessels [especially the smaller ones] sold for scrap, and the newer larger vessels [like the Iowa-Class Battleships] decommissioned. They had any still usable parts like radars and anti-air guns removed for use on newer ships, their main battery sealed, and their engines filled with sealing grease to preserve them. The USS New Jersey, although decommissioned after Desert Storm, can be towed to a drydock and recommissioned with about a year of work, counting training the crew. The Classics/Withereds were decomissioned [poorly], and then re-commissioned after the Toys were scrapped.
Btw in SAVE THEM mini game there is a location where there is a dead kid and mangle is walking around it, and we obviously know that Susie (chica) lost her dog and William killer the dog, right? Well, her dog was missing an eye when it was killed, and mangle is also missing an eye. So I think the SAVE THEM girl that was dead possess mangle And Susie’s dog posses the extra head. Or maybe they both possess the same head
The Toy Freddy skeleton card might have gotten replaced - that set has two cards with the same number, so either the Freddy card got replaced or it was the replacement for another card with a 'wanted poster' design.
I think mangle’s extra endoskeleton is toy foxy. And I think the DCI also possess the Funtime animatronics, not the MCI. This would explain how they were released, as they weren’t present during happiest day mini game. They were released from Molten Freddy in FNaF 6.
i think the toys are possessed by the DCI but it in one of the fnaf 2 teasers, "something borrowed something new" it implies that parts from the withereds like bonnie's arm and face, chica's hands, and parts like that were borrowed and used for the toy animatronics, but that doesnt matter since the toys only started acting weird once the yellow suit was used so it probably isnt the original mci
Theory: What if the “Save Them” kids possess the Funtime Animatronics? I agree that they possessed the toys, but the newspapers just said that they are going to be scrapped. What if William said that he would scrap them, but he just used all their remnant on the Funtimes? Then when they became…..crazy, William just assumed that they needed more remnant. So, when the Fnaf one location opened, he destroyed the others, but the MCI souls attacked him. If the Funtimes were possessed by the MCI souls, how would the MCI souls be freed in happiest day, only to show up in Molten Freddy the next game? Also, William only destroyed Freddy, Bonnie, Chica and Foxy. He never dismantled Golden Freddy.
I took the toys to just have the withered parts, giving them remnant, and charlie deciding not to trap more kids, but there are some good points. For the balloons, instead of mike, henry, liz, ect., could there have even been another spree with the foxy go go go kids? If that wasnt the mci? Ennard/molten fred possibly holding 10-15 souls...thats alot of remnant
To cut right to the point. I agree heavily and I honestly this is a topic I think the community/fandom over complicate. And I say that rarely. It’s simple, Afton unalive 5 more kids and those kids just go possess the Toy animatronics. It’s been a thing since the first game. No need to overthink it and I really don’t get why the community does that to this topic. Heck this can proven just by looking at number of kids and the number of animatronics. We got 5 kids and how many robots? T. Freddy, T. Bonnie, T. Chica, Mangle, & BB. That’s 5 robots guys. Easy. We don’t count the Puppet because we know Charlotte/Charlie is already controlling it. As for why William does this. Could be simple. As payback against the company kicking him out and/or as a test to see if the souls would go into the robots again. Boom. There you go everyone. The one other topic I think could be reasonable argue about is when it comes to the FunTimes. If they’re simply possessed by their own victims/kids or the MCI. Although now a days I lean towards the former but I am willing to compromise and say it could be both. Hey it’s a fun idea.
I personally headcanonn that William destroyed the FNaF 2 animatronics the same way he destroyed the FNaF 1 animatronics and used the DCI's remnant to survive the springlocks failure, just to give DCI a purpose lmao Also Golden Freddy being used to kill DCI, which I headcanon to be the FNaF 4 kids + Freddy bully, angered Garrett (CC) :ourpletroll:
I don't think the kids from Happiest Day are other spirits. I actually think those kids are part of the memory. I mean, they are in colour, which is how the things that are a part of the memory we're playing in are represented in the HD minigames. The ghosts are the only characters that are colourless. So, if those kids are in colour, they should be part of the memory. And even if they were, they already have their cakes and masks, which would mean they're already set free. I did used to believe they were the DCI kids, but now i think they're part of the memory Happiest Day is derived from, by the reasons i've already explained.
The way I think it works is that Charlie , C.C., Cassidy, and Elizabeth died painful deaths and that’s why they seemingly possess on their own. But the rest of the MCI probably died quicker more painless deaths so they didn’t generate enough remnant to possess.
@@thisnameanothername2156 exactly, though not sure what that says about the DCI, it depends on how much you think William understands about remnant and possession.
about the golden freddy thing, i dont really believe it ause well, the CONDITION of golden freddy in fnaf 2, he looks like those springlocks could come off in a single step another thing is that when you counted the balloons, you didnt count cc even though hes technically also one of the people affected kinda
(Without watching the video, and believing they're the MCI kids again, not just malfunctioning robots) Evidence I'm aware of that they don't possess the toys is: (Video shows the evidence for them possessing the toys) 1. Withers are used as spare parts for the toys. 2. The parts allow the MCI kids to possess the toys, meaning the DCI kids don't possess them. 3. TFC shows a soul can be split across multiple bodies 4. William tried to replicate the MCI, but the puppet did nothing to help th DCI kids, so they don't suffer the fate of veing trapped, like the MCI kids. (The Candy Cadet story where the woman tries to save 5 kids, she can only save 1, but saves none. The puppet probably learnt her lesson after that) Honestly it doesn't really matter who possesses the toys since they are Scrapped at the end of the game anyway.
@whocaresaboutthename6850 Ya. And I'm still sure the DCI kids do. Then they get too aggressive, cause the bite of '87, and get scrapped after Fnaf 2. I personally believe it goes: 1. MCI happens, and all the kids, except Golden Freddy aren't aware they're dead. (No super natural stuff happens until AFTER the DCI after all, so i think the Withers are inanimate until then) 2. In 1987, the withers are refurbished (hence why the mask works on MOST of them), but are too scary and stink (eternally stink from the MCI, due to possession), so the stop before upgrading Foxy, and the toys are made. 3. The puppet is moved to the Fnaf 2 location, realises the DCI is happening (William as Golden Freddy), and pulls a Carlton to force the MCI kids to become aware they're dead, and they try to "SAVE THEM", but it's too late. "YOU CAN'T" 4. The toys get possessed (it doesnt matter by who, but I DO believe it's the DCI kids) and start acting out towards the new guard, since the DCI makes them think "security guard = bad" 5. The toys get a bit too aggressive, and, during the day, one of them causes the bite of '87 6. The toys are Scrapped, and the Withers are Reused. As for the Funtimes, I just assume the Futimes killed, as they were made to, and were then also used as guinea pigs for the remnant of the kids they killed. Because of how aware the AI is, the kids don't gain as much control as the classics did (imagine how Andrew is with the Stitchwraith), until the funtimes turn into Ennard, an animatronic souly powered and controlled by the Funtime kids, not their AI selves (SL Baby says "i hear her sometimes, then in Pizza Sim, Scrap Baby acts like Elizabeth but with Baby's voice box "I will make you proud daddy")
Plus the numbers (16 spirits set free) still fits all of this. (MCI, DCI, 2 Extras, and the 5 Funtime Spirits) CC + Charlie + Elizabeth + 4 MCI kids (Cassidy isn't gonna rest until they've made William suffer) + 5 DCI kids + 4 Funtimes (Freddy, BonBon, Foxy, Ballora) 3+4+5+4=16
If this is true then why are they released in happiest day, yet the MCI children come back, and throwing in Andrew, who is never mentioned anywhere and the Afton family makes no sense. If the withered Animatronics aren’t used for parts of the Toy animatronics, then for what? Because they are used for parts, and don’t forget that the old animatronics are fake fur over a base body, and the toy animatronics are just plastic, so they could have been used for parts on the toys, and so could the various pieces of missing endoskeletons, such as Chica’s arms and Bonnie’s endoskeleton head.
I think it’s possible that molten Freddy could have their spirits too Although I doubt William melted their endo’s I think maybe molten Freddy at a post fire fazbear frights rebuilt himself with the toys’s parts
So... where do the Save Them kids end up by the time of FFPS? How do they get to UCN and Happiest Day? We know that Henry wanted to call them *all* back. They'd have to be somewhere.
@Jezebel-qq6ij That makes no sense. To be in Happiest Day, they have to be in FFPS. Henry wanted to bring all of the souls back to one place to release them - they’d have to be there somewhere.
9:20 is possible that the funtimes are their own spirits just think of thus way what if not only Elizabeth was a victim to the funtines I have two ideas one might sound weird but makes sense the other goes differently based on all the information one what if 3 other kids were scoped into the funtimes 1 a girl possessing funtime Freddy a boy possessing funtime foxy and girl possessing bollora and think about it the animatronics were both at circus baby's pizza world and rented out for party's and here's one big misconception about circus baby's nobody understands the funtimes were in there when you have there it would make no sense that just circus baby would be there if I was william I wouldn't put one animatronic in the place to kill kids he would make multiple and would make it easier and the restaurant would make more business as the funtimes would sell the entire place. Now if the restaurant was open there is a possibility that multiple kids went missing that day or the kids were taken when they we being rented out. Now that one is a little crazy here is my next one first thing what if funtime Freddy was the springlock suit from night 4. It make sense as funtimes Freddy seams to be in parts and services so what if that funtime Freddy was deactivated by baby and dragged to the scoping room. Now I know this sounds crazy but it makes sense when you put into the right perspective. Now in fnaf 3 the springlock failure at the sister location wasn't fredbears it was a error with the jaw. Now remember what baby said about the springlock suit well what if a performer put on the funtime suit that day and a springlock failure happened now what if circus baby's pizza world is the sister location and that springlock failure happened the company decided to retire them that would make the fnaf 3 make more sense and would help the timeline. Now the other spirits could be the springlock victim for funtime Freddy, Elizabeth for circus baby, but one thing what if Clara Afton possesses the bollora animatronic that might sound crazy but think about it bollora sings her song about her husband after the bite of 83 now my explanation is his wife died after the death of Elizabeth out a disease or a broken heart or she found out about william during fnaf 2 and killed her but feeling guilt put her in bollora and now possessing the animatronic. Now for funtime foxy I don't have an explanation but what I think is that it is possessed by a child taken when it was rented out you might to figure that one by yourself and I have no idea. Thanks for reading I an a fan of your channel and I think this might be a theory video idea and might help figure out the timeline. Just think about what I said it might explain some holes in this theory about who really possesses the funtimes and who are the other murders, or the people in happest day cheers.
The weird part about this is that on night one we see Toy Freddy and toy chica with black eyes And if the incident happened on nights six how did that happened
Personally I think the dci isn't Canon anymore, Scott said he's only retconed one thing in the FNAF lore and the save them kids have never come back since fnaf 2.
Scott literally said the retcon went unnoticed. An entire incident of children being murdered would not go “unnoticed” so that’s straight up impossible
Realistically William could not stuff a body inside withered foxy without anyone seeing it or it wouldn’t even fit, take a good and long look at withered foxy and you’ll see my point.
This theory is just bad. 6:08 isn't a misconception, it is said "used for parts". You are just overthinking from there. The main proof for that isn't the phone guy call, but the teaser that says "Something borrowed... Something new". That teaser was also made obvious enough with withered bonnie and toy bonnie pictures in it. That also explains why chica don't have hands. Everything you say in this video is full of interpretation without good proof that fully supports your theory. Also disregarding obvious stuff like words "used for parts" and "scrapped" won't make your theory cool. Even I doubt Scott will think 5 steps ahead like that. Ofc agony parts affect toy animatronics also just theory, so I can't force you not to believe whatever you said in the video. but this popular theory already fits all the clues so no one doubts or even argues about it. The 5 kids in Savethem have importance in the story. I won't say it because it's just my theory and everyone hates it, but it definitely not for toy animatronic that scrapped at the end.
Real question - why tf did everyone do a 180 and no longer decide to accept phone guy = William afton? aside from the obvious reason that fans (mainly the minors) eat up any new meta and accept it as fact
Because they die in completely different ways. Not to mention Scott actually debunked it himself as for an ultimate custom night troll he revealed fake mechanics for characters making fun of old theories that are wrong such as dream theory and Phone Guy being William
0:28 Bro, if you think your truth should be the definitive one, maybe you need to change how you tackle theories. We aren't competing to see who can discover it first, we all are trying to understand the same story, and while some explanations make more sense or is more appealing, we should always keep an open mind as theorists. Because then you piece together things you couldn't otherwise, since you are considering other perspectives and point of views. I hope this advise helps you to grow, bro, I see potential in you.
@Jezebel-qq6ij First, learn grammar. Second, nothing is confirmed in the fnaf franchise. Thirdly, why would the animatronics be moving around before the kids died, why is there no mention of the dead kids laying all over the pizzeria in the phone calls, why does this guy think that the withereds weren’t used for parts of the toys when they were heavily implied to be, and why aren’t the souls of the kids from the dci every brought up or mention again?
@Jezebel-qq6ij The reason why I say it was the week of the shift is that the tapes say that “The golden suit in the back was moved” or something like that, and this guy also uses that as a case for his argument, so. Also the msi appears throughout the entire series, so it wouldn’t make much sense for it to be never brought up against or referenced in any shape or way. And finally the withered and heavily implied to be used for the toys since the phone calls say that they were used for parts, and a teaser for the game says that something was borrowed of them, to make something new.
Mangle having parts from the withereds actually makes sense as to why it is the only animatronic moving around during the save them game
Mangle would be like a proto-MoltenMCI. And he could actually be William's inspiration for merging the MCI kids' endos together.
Also, the multi-toned voice.
@@Wolfric_Rogersalso the he-she “joke”
There really is a mix of kids in mangle
Obviously the Save Them kids all voluntarily possessed Balloon Boy just because it was mildly amusing.
Nice reference (if intentional)
You got that from the ooftroop's Undeniably Canon Fnaf Timeline
@@joshuamcgonagle5455 Yes it's called a 'funny reference'
Many people appear to hold a strong dislike for the idea of toys being possessed, likely due to the focus on the MCI kids. Some, like myself, have referred to it as the DCI (Deceased Children Incident) because of the deceased children in the minigame. The DCI children were only shown in one game and were never mentioned again. In Fnaf 6, where everything was resolved and everyone seemed content, even the MCI (if Molten MCI is accurate), the DCI was not addressed. The lack of recognition for the DCI led to the belief that it was not important, causing it to be ignored and dismissed. However, this is just my personal take on the situation.
"uMM aCtuaLly, ThiS mInigAmE iS aBt tHe Og mCi and It'S juSt TheIr sOulS"
NEIN, Foxy Go Go Go is the OG MCI
@@The_Angel_of_the_Pit No shit Sherlock, it's sarcasm
@whocaresaboutthename6850 sry, I couldn't tell, pls do /s if ur sarcastic
@@The_Angel_of_the_Pit I literally did the "Umm actually" Nerd Emoji bit and spoke rlly badly, how much more obvious does it needs to be?
@@whocaresaboutthename6850 I'm sry I'm a fuckin idiot, I thought u were being a smart ass
Mangle having multiple parts from different animatronics might explain their garbled noises they make.
Or it’s just the fact that the toys are tapped into the criminal database, and likely are also able to contact the police, as the radio allegedly mentions a frontal lobe.
Personally I believe that the Save Them minigame is likely William destroying the withered animatronics and taking the dead bodies out of them, probably to experiment with remnant and to prevent Fazbear Entertainment from finding the bodies. It doesn’t make a lot of sense for a company that is trying to move past their past to further ignore a huge issue and the only reason for Afton not being in prison. It also would make more sense for William returning to experiment with new ideas such as remnant rather than to repeat his previous work and murder 5 more random children. Besides, where would he have gotten 5 more children while he was working the night shift? And to cover my bases the whole “save them” part probably refers to the fact that when souls are split between 2 hosts then it becomes harder to set the souls free, case in point Andrew from Fazbear Frights. Of course the happiest day mini game is probably the biggest counter to my theory, I feel like it was a huge loose end that doesn’t really have an explanation yet.
6:14 I actually believe that not because of Phone Guy, but because of one of the early teasers for FNaF 2 saying ”Something borrowed, something new” with both Withered and Toy Bonnie in the background
(And also because that makes it so FNaF 2 doesn’t actively contradict itself, which is something you actually made a video on a while back)
I’m confused with the matter in which you speaking right now.
Wouldn’t “Something borrowed, something new” be making it so that they did use parts from the original, since it states that the withereds connects with borrowed, and I can’t see it being much else besides parts were borrowed from the withereds, to make something new.
Also what do you mean by it contradicting itself, I just want to know to better understand
@@shattergamesstudios Well yes, that is actually exactly what I was saying, though my phrasing may have been somewhat poor:
Basically what I was trying to say is that the Toys were in fact built using parts from the original animatronics, but that I didn’t believe that because of Phone Guy, but rather because of that teaser quote. Sorry for the confusion lol
Also the reason FNaF 2 contradicts itself if the DCI victims do in fact possess the Toy animatronics is that, through the phone calls, it is implied that the incident in question occurs during Jeremy’s week on the job, and yet, the Toys act aggressively towards the player from the get-go, which shouldn’t be happening if they aren’t possessed yet
@@Ozeglion oh, sorry, I thought your were trying to say the opposite, also your phasing was not poor, I will take all of the blame for that
But yes, that contradicting thing your talking about is why I always believe they weren’t haunted, it just wouldn’t make any sense
The toy animatronics being possessed by the DCI kids also proves that everything Phone Guy said has already happened - that is, if he really was referring to the events of SAVETHEM - given that the toy animatronics have clearly been possessed since before night 1.
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WhichthenalsomeansthatPhoneGuy'scallsarenotforJeremyandhewasnotmovedtotheday-shiftbecausethatpartyalreadyhappenedandsodidthebite.
The thing with follow me kids possessing anything is they just disappear from the story. It’s possible that Henry had dealt with them by FNAF6 (perhaps he had kept the trashed animatronics and ended up testing the theory by releasing them via fire before he set up the Simulator). There was always the possibility that the toy animatronics were what ended up creating the remnant (or even the foundation) for the funtimes, but if that’s the case, Harry had no idea additional souls were involved, nor does any of the graveyard stuff (image, princess quest etc)
So it’s mostly a narrative issue of neither the possessed animatronics nor the kids ever popping up again. Especially with the extra factor of the parts from the withereds being put into the toys would also explain the toys acting strange.
The 16 balloons requires a pretty big stretch to add up. The MCI + DCI = 10. Charlotte, Elizabeth, Micheal and even William himself are also part of a remnant/possession situation. That does leave 2 more. With Henry and Mrs Afton you have people that never possessed anything, or who died long ago. (Perhaps if Bellora does have Mrs Afton’s soul she can count, but Henry doesn’t unless there is some event we don’t know about. Andrew can fit as another spirit but: he could be one of the 5 DCI kids, since we know nothing about them. And UCN makes it pretty clear that he and Afton stay behind after at least some of the spirits move on.
The lack of any mention, acknowledgement or hint about these kids in FNAF6 would imply they might have already passed on. It’s possible whatever remained of the toys was in the FNAF3 location and burned with it. This could even be something Henry investigated which led him to believe that his plan in FNAF6 would work. In this scenario, those first 10 balloons might represent spirits that passed on earlier. In which case Mrs Afton and the DCI would count. You could even include phone guy and maybe the victim of the bite of 87 if he later died. That leaves 2 others, but there could be other guards that might have died because of the animatronics. Then happiest day would be about the 6 passing on, with the previous 10 representing those that passed before they did. It would be hard for all 16 to be in the fnaf6 simulator unless molten Freddy was a lot more cluttered than originally thought. Maybe he does have all the toy spirits and mrs afton
The big problem is ultimately that there was no follow up on the FNAF2 murders in the other games.
I do like the idea of the Golden Freddy suit being used for those murders though, as it gives a great reason for one of the spirits in Golden Freddy to be the vengeful spirit that keeps him in UCN. The extra indignity on top of everything else.
You don’t have to possess something for your spirit to be set free, so that literally does not matter. And it isn’t a stretch. If it wasn’t true it would literally be an inconsistency. It’s very clearly intentional
@@ImpulseEvan37 it’s 16. You can get to that number a lot of different ways. You’ve included Henry and Mrs Afton and Andrew. But that excludes the Crying Child (or Cassidy). What about Phone Guy? He passed on but Mrs Afton didn’t? Or maybe he’s there but she isn’t. So ten extra balloons can be any 10 characters n the series that died. If it was at any Fazbear location, that’s at least a rule for narrowing it down. We have 5 MCI, Charlie and the Crying Child, but only 6 balloons in the main area. So, either CC or Cassidy doesn’t pass on, or is part of the first 10. With the DCI it’s leaves 4 or 5 more. Elizabeth and Mike died at tangentially related locations (circus baby’s pizza and rental respectively). Henry dies in the simulator. If Andrew is in the mix, wouldn’t he be with William? William dies at a Freddy’s, does he count? What about phone guy? Does CC even count since he dies at the hospital or at home?
If the rule is “think of 10 people that died in the series” and you can pull from the frights books, there’s a lot f ways to add to 10. Charlie had a mother. Would her spirit be there? Why would Mrs Afton? When it can be just about anyone, it’s not very helpful or convincing. What about the other kids in masks in happiest day? Do they represent kids killed by William? Why do the balloons represent spirits but the kids not represent anything?
[Actually double checked. There are 5 kids. That’s actually better evidence for the theory. The other 5 balloons would represent spirits not attached to any animatronic, if those 5 kids with masks represent the 5 DCI kids and them possessing animatronics.]
Either Cassidy is freed and the bite victim is attached to the mci kids which would set him free anyway, or Cassidy sticks around for whatever reason since she’s in security breach (depending on whether happiest day has happened yet or not) and the bite victim would be the kid in the golden Freddy mask. Afton isn’t included because he’s the murderer, so he wouldn’t be included in their “happiest day.” Andrew wouldn’t be with Afton because he eventually stops possessing afton and gets set free at a similar time to when the puppet does in the frights epilogues, indicating he’s in happiest day. Mike, Henry, Elizabeth and Mrs Afton are there because they died because of Afton himself. Phone is isn’t included because he was killed by the missing kids and his death had nothing to do with afton. Other random characters being there like Charlie’s mom (who never even died by the way) or the dead frights characters also wouldn’t be there, especially since freeing the spirits seems more to do with the killer dying in order for them to get closure, after which they can be freed depending on the context. Eleanor isn’t dead until the final epilogue, during which happiest day already happened and after which Jake is the one to set them free
So it’s not just a guessing game, it’s easy to narrow down the characters that would probably be there and the ones who definitely wouldn’t.
@@ImpulseEvan37 so if we go with all the spirits of ppl “killed by Afton”, how is Mike or Henry counted? Mike is killed by Ennard. How is that different from Phone Guy being killed by a possessed animatronic? Both are killed by animatronics possessed because of Willam Afton, neither has Afton anywhere near the scene. If it’s “Afton built the funtimes and circus baby” then CC shouldn’t be there since Henry created the Springlocks. Or did William pull the plug and kill CC?
All that aside, blaming Henry’s death on William is taking a ton of steps where Phone Guy would totally count. Henry chooses to die because of William’s actions, but how does that not butterfly out to anyone else that dies at the hands of animatronics that are only killing because of what William did?
On the Andrew thing: So happiest day is not at the end of FNAF6, it’s not until after Afton and Andrew explode and then come back together as Stitchwraith before becoming the Afton Amalgamation where Afton is finally destroyed and the puppet rests. But none of the people killed by the Stitchwraith count as being killed by William Afton. But Henry does.
6:04 well, there's the teaser with Withered Bonnie and Toy Bonnie with the text "something borrowed... something new...", it's pretty self-explanatory imo. This theory is similar in concept to MoltenMCI
Even if that’s what that was implying, there’s no part in or on the toys that could be from the withereds. As I said, the only one that could is Mangle, but even that is questionable as the parts missing from the withereds don’t match the ones on mangle
@@ImpulseEvan37 well, Toy Chica without her beak clearly has an Endo 02 head. Then the other toys' endos are barely visible (unless you modify their FNaF VR and FNaF AR models, and then they're not even whole), so we can't be sure if they have parts from the withereds or not. But tbh, I don't think we have enough information to have a concrete answer to this question, especially since the games seem to give little importance to Save Them in general
@@Schokie732 yes, but the the withereds still have most of their parts, meaning they can’t have very many parts from the withereds or any, and since they have entire endoskeletons, there’s no reason they’d need the part as there’s not enough anyway
@@ImpulseEvan37 Phone Guy says the toys cost a small fortune, I wonder if Faz Ent actually used some parts of the withereds to reduce the cost of building the toys. But yeah, the withered have most of their parts (except Bonnie and Chica)
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Someone who thinks the same as me. Thank you. Yes! The toys are possessed!
I was thinking about that spare parts line right before you debunked it. 1 thing though, in the case of machinery, and equipment, "scrapped" does typically mean destroyed. Think junkyards where you can buy parts from broken cars to fix yours, or going on ebay to find parted out laptops and gaming consoles.
"Decommissioned" is the term that people mistakenly confuse with "scrapped". A decommissioned piece of equipment is [usually] carefully preserved for potential re-activation later. Naval vessels are an example, the US Navy was greatly reduced after WW2, with all the pre-war vessels [especially the smaller ones] sold for scrap, and the newer larger vessels [like the Iowa-Class Battleships] decommissioned. They had any still usable parts like radars and anti-air guns removed for use on newer ships, their main battery sealed, and their engines filled with sealing grease to preserve them. The USS New Jersey, although decommissioned after Desert Storm, can be towed to a drydock and recommissioned with about a year of work, counting training the crew.
The Classics/Withereds were decomissioned [poorly], and then re-commissioned after the Toys were scrapped.
Btw in SAVE THEM mini game there is a location where there is a dead kid and mangle is walking around it, and we obviously know that Susie (chica) lost her dog and William killer the dog, right? Well, her dog was missing an eye when it was killed, and mangle is also missing an eye.
So I think the SAVE THEM girl that was dead possess mangle
And Susie’s dog posses the extra head.
Or maybe they both possess the same head
The Toy Freddy skeleton card might have gotten replaced - that set has two cards with the same number, so either the Freddy card got replaced or it was the replacement for another card with a 'wanted poster' design.
Save them Minigame has five bodies on the map, but SIX blood spots, can be JJ the six possessed toy?
It would prove jj and balloon boy as the fifth and sixth kid
Oh and remember in the Toy Chica minigame theres a secret area with 5 shadow cupcake one of which follows you
I think mangle’s extra endoskeleton is toy foxy. And I think the DCI also possess the Funtime animatronics, not the MCI. This would explain how they were released, as they weren’t present during happiest day mini game. They were released from Molten Freddy in FNaF 6.
i think the toys are possessed by the DCI but it in one of the fnaf 2 teasers, "something borrowed something new" it implies that parts from the withereds like bonnie's arm and face, chica's hands, and parts like that were borrowed and used for the toy animatronics, but that doesnt matter since the toys only started acting weird once the yellow suit was used so it probably isnt the original mci
Theory: What if the “Save Them” kids possess the Funtime Animatronics?
I agree that they possessed the toys, but the newspapers just said that they are going to be scrapped.
What if William said that he would scrap them, but he just used all their remnant on the Funtimes? Then when they became…..crazy, William just assumed that they needed more remnant. So, when the Fnaf one location opened, he destroyed the others, but the MCI souls attacked him.
If the Funtimes were possessed by the MCI souls, how would the MCI souls be freed in happiest day, only to show up in Molten Freddy the next game? Also, William only destroyed Freddy, Bonnie, Chica and Foxy. He never dismantled Golden Freddy.
Yo just a theory but imagine withered Bonnie self destroying itself between fnaf 1 and 2....could be a badass theory and perspective
What if, hear me out, the 6th blood pool is a 6th dead kid and that kid possesses JJ
could be, or maybe that pool of blood is who possesses balloon boy? Or maybe balloon boy AND JJ?
HOLY SHIT this is the best theory I've seen for this confusing minigame! Love the vid ❤
I took the toys to just have the withered parts, giving them remnant, and charlie deciding not to trap more kids, but there are some good points.
For the balloons, instead of mike, henry, liz, ect., could there have even been another spree with the foxy go go go kids? If that wasnt the mci?
Ennard/molten fred possibly holding 10-15 souls...thats alot of remnant
I’m gonna be honest, I think the main reason people don’t wanna believe the toy animatronics are possessed is because they think Toy Chica is hot.
You guys ever wonder who EXACTLY lured the animatronics in fnaf 3? The purple Fredy being The bit victim but golden Freddy at the same time perhaps?
To cut right to the point. I agree heavily and I honestly this is a topic I think the community/fandom over complicate. And I say that rarely. It’s simple, Afton unalive 5 more kids and those kids just go possess the Toy animatronics. It’s been a thing since the first game. No need to overthink it and I really don’t get why the community does that to this topic. Heck this can proven just by looking at number of kids and the number of animatronics. We got 5 kids and how many robots? T. Freddy, T. Bonnie, T. Chica, Mangle, & BB. That’s 5 robots guys. Easy. We don’t count the Puppet because we know Charlotte/Charlie is already controlling it.
As for why William does this. Could be simple. As payback against the company kicking him out and/or as a test to see if the souls would go into the robots again. Boom. There you go everyone.
The one other topic I think could be reasonable argue about is when it comes to the FunTimes. If they’re simply possessed by their own victims/kids or the MCI. Although now a days I lean towards the former but I am willing to compromise and say it could be both. Hey it’s a fun idea.
I personally headcanonn that William destroyed the FNaF 2 animatronics the same way he destroyed the FNaF 1 animatronics and used the DCI's remnant to survive the springlocks failure, just to give DCI a purpose lmao
Also Golden Freddy being used to kill DCI, which I headcanon to be the FNaF 4 kids + Freddy bully, angered Garrett (CC) :ourpletroll:
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4:19 NAH, who TF said this? Like WTF?
I don't think the kids from Happiest Day are other spirits. I actually think those kids are part of the memory. I mean, they are in colour, which is how the things that are a part of the memory we're playing in are represented in the HD minigames. The ghosts are the only characters that are colourless. So, if those kids are in colour, they should be part of the memory. And even if they were, they already have their cakes and masks, which would mean they're already set free. I did used to believe they were the DCI kids, but now i think they're part of the memory Happiest Day is derived from, by the reasons i've already explained.
You’re absolutely correct. The other kids aren’t spirits. But the other kids are not what I talked about at all. I specified the balloons
@@ImpulseEvan37 Oh, sorry. You're right. I just centered on the kids more than the balloons.
The way I think it works is that Charlie , C.C., Cassidy, and Elizabeth died painful deaths and that’s why they seemingly possess on their own. But the rest of the MCI probably died quicker more painless deaths so they didn’t generate enough remnant to possess.
it would explain why cassidy is revengeful, and if she was springlocked then this system would explain her ability to seeming teleport
@@thisnameanothername2156 exactly, though not sure what that says about the DCI, it depends on how much you think William understands about remnant and possession.
A vid right before spring break? W
What about the teaser image “Something borrowed something new”?
0:47 the reason it's still debated because it was never confirmed or denied in any way.
in my opinion the toys were not free during happiest day, but when fazbear frights burns to the ground, much like fnaf 6.
7:24 i disagree here Mangle whould need extra parts and the idea is illuded to by the "Something Barrowed Something New" teaser
Seriously the Main 5 kids need a break, give us the names and more details on the "Save Them" kids.
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@@Sunnytheraccoon Yes!!
@@Songal18 I’m actually making an entire side story for these kids because they deserve some love.
@@Sunnytheraccoon Nice ^^
about the golden freddy thing, i dont really believe it ause well, the CONDITION of golden freddy in fnaf 2, he looks like those springlocks could come off in a single step
another thing is that when you counted the balloons, you didnt count cc even though hes technically also one of the people affected kinda
I'm just going to assume it was retconned since this incident was never brought up again after FNAF 2... Like... At all.
The bite of 87 was also never mentioned again after FNaF 1.
(Without watching the video, and believing they're the MCI kids again, not just malfunctioning robots) Evidence I'm aware of that they don't possess the toys is: (Video shows the evidence for them possessing the toys)
1. Withers are used as spare parts for the toys.
2. The parts allow the MCI kids to possess the toys, meaning the DCI kids don't possess them.
3. TFC shows a soul can be split across multiple bodies
4. William tried to replicate the MCI, but the puppet did nothing to help th DCI kids, so they don't suffer the fate of veing trapped, like the MCI kids. (The Candy Cadet story where the woman tries to save 5 kids, she can only save 1, but saves none. The puppet probably learnt her lesson after that)
Honestly it doesn't really matter who possesses the toys since they are Scrapped at the end of the game anyway.
Debunked this
Are u slow in the head?
@whocaresaboutthename6850 Ya. And I'm still sure the DCI kids do. Then they get too aggressive, cause the bite of '87, and get scrapped after Fnaf 2.
I personally believe it goes:
1. MCI happens, and all the kids, except Golden Freddy aren't aware they're dead. (No super natural stuff happens until AFTER the DCI after all, so i think the Withers are inanimate until then)
2. In 1987, the withers are refurbished (hence why the mask works on MOST of them), but are too scary and stink (eternally stink from the MCI, due to possession), so the stop before upgrading Foxy, and the toys are made.
3. The puppet is moved to the Fnaf 2 location, realises the DCI is happening (William as Golden Freddy), and pulls a Carlton to force the MCI kids to become aware they're dead, and they try to "SAVE THEM", but it's too late. "YOU CAN'T"
4. The toys get possessed (it doesnt matter by who, but I DO believe it's the DCI kids) and start acting out towards the new guard, since the DCI makes them think "security guard = bad"
5. The toys get a bit too aggressive, and, during the day, one of them causes the bite of '87
6. The toys are Scrapped, and the Withers are Reused.
As for the Funtimes, I just assume the Futimes killed, as they were made to, and were then also used as guinea pigs for the remnant of the kids they killed.
Because of how aware the AI is, the kids don't gain as much control as the classics did (imagine how Andrew is with the Stitchwraith), until the funtimes turn into Ennard, an animatronic souly powered and controlled by the Funtime kids, not their AI selves (SL Baby says "i hear her sometimes, then in Pizza Sim, Scrap Baby acts like Elizabeth but with Baby's voice box "I will make you proud daddy")
Plus the numbers (16 spirits set free) still fits all of this. (MCI, DCI, 2 Extras, and the 5 Funtime Spirits)
CC + Charlie + Elizabeth + 4 MCI kids (Cassidy isn't gonna rest until they've made William suffer) + 5 DCI kids + 4 Funtimes (Freddy, BonBon, Foxy, Ballora)
3+4+5+4=16
@@thedarkdevil1661 There's zero evidence to suport the theory that the each Funtime has an individual spirit possessing them.
Oh my gosh. Finally someone asking my question and not having the ADHD stopping them from making a video on it!
If this is true then why are they released in happiest day, yet the MCI children come back, and throwing in Andrew, who is never mentioned anywhere and the Afton family makes no sense.
If the withered Animatronics aren’t used for parts of the Toy animatronics, then for what? Because they are used for parts, and don’t forget that the old animatronics are fake fur over a base body, and the toy animatronics are just plastic, so they could have been used for parts on the toys, and so could the various pieces of missing endoskeletons, such as Chica’s arms and Bonnie’s endoskeleton head.
The other spirits in Happiest Day are wearing what looks like the Mediocre Melodies masks though
Hmm the mediocre melodies could be possessed since we don’t know where they originally came from all we know is Michael in fnaf pizzaria sim buys them
I think it’s possible that molten Freddy could have their spirits too
Although I doubt William melted their endo’s
I think maybe molten Freddy at a post fire fazbear frights rebuilt himself with the toys’s parts
So... where do the Save Them kids end up by the time of FFPS? How do they get to UCN and Happiest Day? We know that Henry wanted to call them *all* back. They'd have to be somewhere.
@Jezebel-qq6ij Okay, but why them? Also, where are they in FFPS?
@Jezebel-qq6ij That makes no sense. To be in Happiest Day, they have to be in FFPS. Henry wanted to bring all of the souls back to one place to release them - they’d have to be there somewhere.
@Jezebel-qq6ij Yeah, so they wouldn’t be in Happiest Day, since they already rested before that point.
@Jezebel-qq6ij So? Why would their spirits stick around if their animatronics have been scrapped? Think about it, man.
@Jezebel-qq6ij Literally doesn't relate to anything but okay
Could the thing in his hand be a faz wrench
Wh. What is the Golden Freddy kazoo
9:20 is possible that the funtimes are their own spirits just think of thus way what if not only Elizabeth was a victim to the funtines I have two ideas one might sound weird but makes sense the other goes differently based on all the information one what if 3 other kids were scoped into the funtimes 1 a girl possessing funtime Freddy a boy possessing funtime foxy and girl possessing bollora and think about it the animatronics were both at circus baby's pizza world and rented out for party's and here's one big misconception about circus baby's nobody understands the funtimes were in there when you have there it would make no sense that just circus baby would be there if I was william I wouldn't put one animatronic in the place to kill kids he would make multiple and would make it easier and the restaurant would make more business as the funtimes would sell the entire place. Now if the restaurant was open there is a possibility that multiple kids went missing that day or the kids were taken when they we being rented out. Now that one is a little crazy here is my next one first thing what if funtime Freddy was the springlock suit from night 4. It make sense as funtimes Freddy seams to be in parts and services so what if that funtime Freddy was deactivated by baby and dragged to the scoping room. Now I know this sounds crazy but it makes sense when you put into the right perspective. Now in fnaf 3 the springlock failure at the sister location wasn't fredbears it was a error with the jaw. Now remember what baby said about the springlock suit well what if a performer put on the funtime suit that day and a springlock failure happened now what if circus baby's pizza world is the sister location and that springlock failure happened the company decided to retire them that would make the fnaf 3 make more sense and would help the timeline. Now the other spirits could be the springlock victim for funtime Freddy, Elizabeth for circus baby, but one thing what if Clara Afton possesses the bollora animatronic that might sound crazy but think about it bollora sings her song about her husband after the bite of 83 now my explanation is his wife died after the death of Elizabeth out a disease or a broken heart or she found out about william during fnaf 2 and killed her but feeling guilt put her in bollora and now possessing the animatronic. Now for funtime foxy I don't have an explanation but what I think is that it is possessed by a child taken when it was rented out you might to figure that one by yourself and I have no idea. Thanks for reading I an a fan of your channel and I think this might be a theory video idea and might help figure out the timeline. Just think about what I said it might explain some holes in this theory about who really possesses the funtimes and who are the other murders, or the people in happest day cheers.
I sorry for the long comment I just want to clear this up
So are we ignoring FNAF 2s teasers about "Something borrowed, something new" showing both Bonnies side by side?
The weird part about this is that on night one we see Toy Freddy and toy chica with black eyes And if the incident happened on nights six how did that happened
It didn’t happen on night 6, they just learned about it them. Also the calls are probably prerecorded anyway
@@ImpulseEvan37 ok then
4:39 where is that image even from?
Edit:nevermind
Personally I think the dci isn't Canon anymore, Scott said he's only retconed one thing in the FNAF lore and the save them kids have never come back since fnaf 2.
Scott literally said the retcon went unnoticed. An entire incident of children being murdered would not go “unnoticed” so that’s straight up impossible
Realistically William could not stuff a body inside withered foxy without anyone seeing it or it wouldn’t even fit, take a good and long look at withered foxy and you’ll see my point.
Foxy originally had actually legs and don’t have any cuts in him, so he would’ve been able to without problems
Wait. Didnt fnaf2 prove to be a prequel?
What’s your point
7:08 How can anyone get this wrong?
This theory is just bad.
6:08 isn't a misconception, it is said "used for parts". You are just overthinking from there.
The main proof for that isn't the phone guy call, but the teaser that says "Something borrowed... Something new".
That teaser was also made obvious enough with withered bonnie and toy bonnie pictures in it.
That also explains why chica don't have hands.
Everything you say in this video is full of interpretation without good proof that fully supports your theory.
Also disregarding obvious stuff like words "used for parts" and "scrapped" won't make your theory cool. Even I doubt Scott will think 5 steps ahead like that.
Ofc agony parts affect toy animatronics also just theory, so I can't force you not to believe whatever you said in the video.
but this popular theory already fits all the clues so no one doubts or even argues about it.
The 5 kids in Savethem have importance in the story.
I won't say it because it's just my theory and everyone hates it, but it definitely not for toy animatronic that scrapped at the end.
Real question - why tf did everyone do a 180 and no longer decide to accept phone guy = William afton?
aside from the obvious reason that fans (mainly the minors) eat up any new meta and accept it as fact
Because they die in completely different ways. Not to mention Scott actually debunked it himself as for an ultimate custom night troll he revealed fake mechanics for characters making fun of old theories that are wrong such as dream theory and Phone Guy being William
I'll have to check this out to see what u mean by this
What is a 180?
0:28 Bro, if you think your truth should be the definitive one, maybe you need to change how you tackle theories. We aren't competing to see who can discover it first, we all are trying to understand the same story, and while some explanations make more sense or is more appealing, we should always keep an open mind as theorists. Because then you piece together things you couldn't otherwise, since you are considering other perspectives and point of views. I hope this advise helps you to grow, bro, I see potential in you.
I don’t agree with this at all
But everyone is entitled to the own opinion, and I respect you
@Jezebel-qq6ij First, learn grammar.
Second, nothing is confirmed in the fnaf franchise.
Thirdly, why would the animatronics be moving around before the kids died, why is there no mention of the dead kids laying all over the pizzeria in the phone calls, why does this guy think that the withereds weren’t used for parts of the toys when they were heavily implied to be, and why aren’t the souls of the kids from the dci every brought up or mention again?
@Jezebel-qq6ij The reason why I say it was the week of the shift is that the tapes say that “The golden suit in the back was moved” or something like that, and this guy also uses that as a case for his argument, so.
Also the msi appears throughout the entire series, so it wouldn’t make much sense for it to be never brought up against or referenced in any shape or way.
And finally the withered and heavily implied to be used for the toys since the phone calls say that they were used for parts, and a teaser for the game says that something was borrowed of them, to make something new.
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