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Bosch recommends that you use the 8 ah battery to get the drills full potential. The 4 amp hour is the bare minimum. Every test I've seen the Bosch smokes a little bit on very first test and is fine afterwards. Probably excess oil from the drill getting hot.
100% agree, if this testing was done with the recommeded battery the Bosch would smoke Dewalt and Flex in every category. Lowes and Home Depot have custom Bosch toolsets with the smaller batteries for this very reason due to their sponsorships with Dewalt and Milwaukee.
I think that is not "going into reverse " for the Bosch, but the kickback control. Disable that before this test. And use the recommended batteries for the maximum power, 5.5-8+ Ah for Bosch. Actually they should all have similarly sized batteries.
I use Makita personally, I'm very impressed by the Bosch in your video, solid torque and battery life, no tricks. Speed, only matters for false advertising and UA-cam channels.
Not only that, the Bosch was using a smaller battery than recommended. It needs the 8Ah PROCORE the same way the DeWalt used a Flexvolt battery to obtain stellar numbers
@@kris738 Lol that is one of the reasons I went to Rona and got FLEX tools, also they were 50% off. I will deal with the heavy weight of them, plus they do drive things like GRK screws in much faster, so it kind of works out, and the speed does help if you are screwing in a 8 inch structural screw through a 10' ft 2 ply 2x12 beam someone is holding the other end of.
Counterpoint, I bought a Craftsman Drill/Impact kit several years ago and its done everything I have asked it to do as a home owner. Bought a Craftsman 20V reciprocating saw and an air inflator and those work great too. Just bought 2 Craftsman 4.0 AH batteries for $99. I think the Crafstman 20v line is perfectly fine for homeowners. Pros would certainly want higher end tools from Milwaukee or Dewalt, etc.
Craftsman price point is clearly the cheapest option. I am getting the 6 tool 2 battery and charger kit for$199. Even though it is last on this trial run it’s good enough for occasional use around the house which is what my intention is for.
Craftsman may have been last, but it was also the cheapest by at least half and up to three times cheaper than the rest of them. So as far as I'm concerned Craftsman for the win. If im paying three times as much for a drill it better be as good as the DeWalt or flex that's all I'm saying
Great video. I did want to mention though that you had the Kobalt in drilling mode when trying to determine the low end of the clutch so it wasn't actually trying to engage the clutch. It has 3 modes, drilling, driving, and hammer mode. Only the driving mode actually engages the clutch. For reference on the lowest clutch setting I can easily stop it with just my hand. I'm not sure it would have changed much overall though. Kobalt probably still ends second to last. I own one and like it well enough but now I'm considering Flex thanks to your video.
If I was starting out again, I would probably have gotten Makita but once you're locked into the battery system, it's like a sunk cost when you decide to switch to another brand. Ryobi probably makes the best tools for the average homeowner. Anything else is probably overkill and the collection is expensive. Ryobi is incredibly good value.
plus they have a huge variety of tools for a budget brand. You buy Hercules and youre gonna end up having to buy a diff brand when you want something specific.
Maybe, but I hate the green color they went to. I liked the original blue color. Also, Skil has really stepped up their game. I would say they are one of the best low cost tool system now. The same company that makes Flex and Kobalt make Skil.
That is why I have stuck with Ridgid. Same company that makes Milwaukee and Royobi. Except you get lifetime on tool and battery. I just replaced one of my batteries that was over 8 years old. No questions asked. They sent me a new 4 amp hour battery. I will probably never switch unless they get rid of their lifetime warranty.
I've loved Flex. Got the lifetime warranty and you get customer service right away. So far so pleased and I've beaten those tools to death on the jobsite. Can't complain.
How do you find the weight? And does the speed of them getting the job done quicker kind of make up for them being heavier? I just got a combo drill set but haven't used them yet.
@@dive2drive314 This is always the compromise. For the reliability I want, it gets heavier. No way to get around it. Flex tools are designed to be dropped and still function. When I am building furniture and it gets busy, and the pieces are big, sometimes tools drop from the bench to the concrete. For me, I want reliability and torque. Speed, all drills have speed. This thing has torque to spare plus I can, drop it on occasion :) The impact driver is incredible. I love it.
@@josuetorres8414yeah but the price for the drill compared to the Dewalt drill proves you get more bang for your buck with the Flex I’m a Dewalt guy through and through, but it’s not like Dewalt dominates in every single power tool… Flex has some Cons… like most batteries being over 5.0Ah ($$$) but then again, most people who are thinking of owning a Flex power tool will likely be doing general construction for their jobs and not DIY So as long as it’s not craftsman, it’s a good drill
I can't say I've used many other drill brands. Because I'm along way into dewalt. I think its just what you like and comfortable with. I do own 6 Milwaukee m12 tools great tools
Pretty much every power tool that I own (yard and shop) is Kobalt as well as my tools… I have absolutely ZERO complaints and yeah… they’ve been put to the test numerous times. I regularly use the impact to remove lug nuts with no issues.
I don’t know if the owner reads the comments. If he is looking for ideas this could be one. As a contractor I have noticed over the last 2 years drill bits T-25, T-20, square, Phillips head, ext all break daily / weekly no matter what brand I buy. Comparison of strongest bits
I am a new home owner and my dad always used craftsman, so I bought my first tools and they are all craftsman (keeping tradition) I have never had an issue with speeds. However this video is pretty cool to see all these different results between brands. This is a great sample to see the range between Homeowner to Professional.
Craftsman was truly top-notch way back in the day before they had issues with ownership. They're not necessarily bad now. But their name has gotten pretty messed up because of the ownership switching around. There were a few bad years there in between. I wouldn't give up my old Craftsman drill for anything on this list.
I'm just a home DIYer (currently working on a full kitchen remodel) and the Craftsman has performed well (until the Expanding Foam Incident*). I see how Craftsman comes in last for speed and power but honestly I don't care; I'm not working that fast anyway. *I had some Great Stuff expanding foam in the bottom of the bin where I had several tools and accidentally knocked the top off and apparently depressed the sprayer because the foam filled up the bin, encasing everything in it. It got into the chuck of the drill, essentially gluing it shut. I simply couldn't get it unstuck and actually bought a second drill. Then today I tried using a pipe wrench to loosen the chuck and it worked! So I took the second drill back (I hadn't opened it yet) and the drill seems to be working okay again. Moral of the story: DON'T STORE EXPANDING FOAM WITH YOUR TOOLS! I hope you got a good chuckle out of that.
The antikickback on the Bosh flex and Milwaukee will hender the results on the lift test but on the Bosh and Milwaukee you can turn them off a button on the Bosh and Milwaukee you have to put it in lock 🔒 and press the trigger 5 times
Something I have learnt from being a musician and watching commercials on television is that loud this is not always the same thing just by measuring on a metre - in fact it is often misguided. You can have one really frequency peaking to the max and the metre will tell you that it's being obnoxious, yet it sounds tolerable, whereas, you can have every single frequency compressed and close to boiling point and the response from the metre is 'A - OK'. Think of Harvey Norman commercials... The best sound (tonality and volume) in this order: 1. Craftsman 8:25 2. Bosch 3. DeWalt 4. Flex 5. Kobalt
Tell ya what, while im already invested in the Milwaukee line and wouldnt change or even want to...Those tests with the Flex drill were very impressive..it wasnt just beating the others, it was in fact smoking them in 90% of the categories..first time Ive seen them in a comparison. If their other tools are consistent like that.....it reminds me a bit of the Milwaukee line of tools...if the pricing is right (again and if the tools are consistent across their line) then it looks like a great line if your choosing which to invest in.
Thanks for your review. I’m not sure for where you are but here in Australia if you register your Bosch tool online, the warranty is doubled to 6 years. If you don’t register the tool, then its 3 years. Also, please only take this as constructive criticism but I personally think it would have been a fairer test if all brands had the same battery capacity as higher capacity batteries will always give the tool a better advantage, especially when you were doing the high torque tests. I know not all brands sell the same battery capacity but the battery capacity differences in your video are too wide between each other. Plus the Flex stacked lithium and even the DEWALT flex volt will always have the advantage due to the battery technology used. Also, in regards to comfort I think it would have been better scored if the testers actually used the drills or held them for longer at the same height you would usually use a drill, rather than just casually holding it for a few seconds. Obviously you can’t use the drills while being blindfolded but maybe you could cover up the drills somehow instead. Apart from that thanks for your effort in making these videos. I’ve learnt many things from your channel.
I used to use Bosch but the battery prove went through the roof so I've moved to makita L series, loving it. Still Bosch was very impressive in this video.
I’m a 20+ year career tradesmen and I’ve handled and used all sorts of tools from all sorts of brands. For homeowners just get whatever is cheapest to get the task done. For pros it varies wildly what is “best” depending on tool. My general cheat sheet personally is Milwaukee for most tools, Bosch for any SDS chipping/hammer drill or lasers, ridgid for any plumbing specific tools (except the pro-press gun). Lines like craftsman/kobalt are relegated to hand tools only. Even the craftsman multi-tool blades are trash and the spot welds tend to wear out faster than other brands like dewalt or Milwaukee.
This video is just what I needed to start my morning off right. Some interesting testing methods and not so surprising results kept me entertained and provided good laughs. Keep up this great content !
Thank you for testing them out, I'm a DeWalt and Milwaukee user, AS far as now so satisfied with both performance of the power tools... Your video is adding my knowledge especially for Flex performance... 👌🏼😁
If you knew weight was an important metric, why let them handle with batteries vs without? It's not a fair comparison. It would be more appropriate if you got all the same ah batteries, and tested as such.
Good tool its a good tool... important ... support . Replacement. Warranty . Exchange batery accesory etc . If the tool do the job with good performance good.. other details are for kids... 2 seconds more faster... etc etc
the bosch is really impressive. used with an non-recommended battery for its full potential and it is a 20v tool while the majority uses 24v system. and only 149. And the smoke has already been covered as being excessive amount of burnt grease.
As a collector myself, the flex absolutely embarrasses all my other 18-24v drills. It pains me to say that as a Milwaukee guy. I also have the Makita XGT gph01 and it beats the Flex. Best drill on the market in my opinion.
Great vid and testing! IMHO, fastest/most powerful is kind of 2 dimensional. There are always other factors to consider. Ergonomics was interesting! How many people know that Bosch and Makita are electric motor manufacturers? Not that one detail makes them best. But how many people would buy tools labelled as "Outsource By Chevron" or "Assembled for TTI"? Even Stanley/Black&Decker/DeWalt" goes to the international tool crib. Flex is great, no doubt. Not cheap either. Wrist damage is always a consideration, too. Personally, I'm a huge fan of smooth operation and tool control. We have great choices today. I miss heavier (steel chassis) and less powerful tools for nostalgic reasons. They lasted decades.
I had that Kobalt drill....it lasted 6 months or so before the gears inside the drill completely imploded. The price was good at the time and the batteries are pretty cheap compared to the price of others, I find it amusing how many comments on the lowes sight say things like "I dont know how they make such a great tool for the price" for reviews for it...Kobalt is ok for the price but it really is a heavy drill and a bit unwieldy imo along with its the first drill I have ever owned that utterly failed half a year in.....even cheaper drills usually last years, it is mostly the opther type of tools that fail in a cheaper line imo. Anyway, I still think given the right price the Kobalt line can be worthwhile.....but i gave them a shot and got burned and moved on before I got to deep investing in that line.
I bought a dewalt driver and drill for $99 each on sale from Lowes and both came with 2 2ah batteries. The driver has 1700 in lbs. which is plenty. With the 6ah it would real nice.
On a concrete crew dropping tools on hard or concrete mix, subject to rain and mud the dewalt tools just won’t quit after many years. A new boss took over the company and switch to Hilti and it’s the biggest pile of dung. Impacts last a few months, the saw can barely cut through thick wood. Don’t get me wrong. There are great Hilti tools such as the corded big breakers but my experience on cordless Hilti is just bad.
@@IMPACT-NATION dude t am like the am ambassador for FLEX dude constantly fighting against the Naysayers and stand behind tool truth without the BS or bias. Dude that sounds good, lol..
Im a flexvolt and flexvolt advantage guy for the last 5 yrs. Only because the company i work for has dewalt and we swap batteries. So i stook with dewalt even for personal use. But i respect flex. Its ridiculous and i always see their advertisements.
Unfortunately, I have had the worst experiences at my local Lowes and no longer shop there. Since Home Depot is just a mile away, I find myself shopping there for most of my tools. For "disposables," a Harbor Freight is a couple of miles away.
@@matt59fire As in inexpensive items or tools that have a seriously limited lifetime of use. I take it you don't take care of DIY projects around your own home or vehicle.
@Charlielizard I take it you assume everyone who looks at tool reviews arent Profesionals and are all diy ppl? I work with my tools to earn a paycheck. Anything else? Never used anything besides yellow or red.
@Ready321 Assume? Am quite sure you know the definition and especially why one would need to rely on that word. 99% of the time based on ignorance. Am a professional and watch as many reviews as possible. Nice to see how something works prior to an investment. Enjoy your time playing as an ignorant keyboard warrior.
@Charlielizard Not being a keyboard warrior because i havent attacked or threatened you. Seems you are sensitive. But yeah, you assumed. You literally said "i take it you dont....." thats called assumption.
This newer Bosch drill beats them all, it needs an 8ah battery though for peak performance due to the biturbo motor. I understand we work with what we have but sometimes it’s not fair when other tools are paired with their matching battery, but never the Bosch.
I’ve had a few folks mention that so I’m going to try to get the proper battery for the Bosch and run it again. I had similar comments about the battery I used for the Ryobi drill in the first video so that’ll be a do-over as well. It’s one of the many reasons I appreciate the helpful feedback on UA-cam - allows to me course correct as needed and learn new things.
Appreciate your video. I’m a sorry Kobalt owner and need to inform you they have serious flaw you may uncover in a drop test. I have broken two 24v Kobalts by simply dropping them. I’m not sure what exactly broke internally but both were dropped from less than 4’ onto concrete and will no longer operate. Motor runs but grinds and chuck spins freely. I have other older and cheaper brands that withstand far greater abuse.
Stacked lithium on the flex evens the playing board there pal, plus milwaukee kicks dewalt in the teeth too! But I like dewalt it's okay, I have some of them too
First, let me mention that Craftsman is just reskinned Dewalt. I literally found a Craftsman brushless drill and impact driver with identical specs as the DCD777 and DCF787. Second, I would like to mention that I just tested the Flex turbo, the DCD999 and the Gen 4 Milwaukee driving 1/2” drill bits through 8 inches of wood. The Flex is not that comfortable to use and, without turbo, it’s not that fast. Note: I didn’t use the turbo to make the test fair. The 999 is heavy, but comfortable and smooth. The Milwaukee was the most comfortable by far, and the fastest overall. My test was based on what I am actually looking to use the drill for.
Maybe it was just the optics. But it seemed that the busted shanks were busting because you didn’t have the shank in the chuck beyond the locking ring. I’ve busted spade bits for the same reason.
What I have noticed that you do not take drill properly, your left hand is always covering vents of the drill, that is not good on using it, it will cause overheating of it. Other than that I'm impressed with Flex, I would buy it if I live in States just because of warranty, but in Europe only Bosch, but with propper battery.
How did you get a Dewalt FlexVolt kit at Lowe’s? That’s Home Depot’s version, the Lowe’s version is the power Detect (DCD998 for Lowe’s, DCD999 for HD)
I have been using the same Dewalt impact driver for over 10 years. I've had to replace the battery but other than that nothing but great things. So who makes the drill for craftsman? They never produced their own power tools as far as I remember.
Only 2 drills had a 6.0? Should retest them all with the same battery size. Also all marketing is made with the biggest battery they have unless specified otherwise
Yeah the test is flawed due to the battery capacity difference and battery technology too. This is why the Bosch was able to break the bit when using it in short bursts but didn’t do the best in high torque tests due to only using a 4ah battery.
500lbs on DeWalt 60V with 6Ah Hammer Drill VS Flex 24V 6Ah stack lithium at 465lbs. And only 35lbs difference. You haven't used the Flex 24V 10Ah Stack Lithium Battery yet! It makes a lot of difference. And that's what I have now on myFlex Quick Eject Brushless impact driver and The Turbo Hammer Drill they beaten the DeWalt Flexvolt and The Milwaukee Gen4. DeWalt is no good on drilling concrete and the Milwaukee as well they are so dead slow! With the Flex the hammer function is a beast. It can punch a hole so quickly. Just like my old Bosch HD18-2 corded hammer drill.
Zack Builds did a review of a three or four drills and tore them down. Interesting how they all essentially have the exact same components with "very" minor differences.
I got into power tools back in 2018 i wanted to purchase the portable cable combo kit i thought long and hard about it and decided to go with kobalt i got the piece combo kit drill driver impact drill flashlight circular saw and Reciprocating and the little power source to charge anything usb knowing my warranty just expired on the tools 5 yrs im not sure how far can they go since im a mainly a home guy diy im been engar to bring them to my job so i can really make use of the tools i kind of invested already got two 2.0 batteries along with three 4.0 batteries i work slightly in janitorial and the walls are disaster im trying to convince my boss can i replace the walls our business services dept dont do jack squat but if i were to upgrade i would choose kobalt xtr or flex for up to date technology performance reliability
I thought that might be the case but I had such varying results from the torque tests that I think the weight test helps. I just can't get consistent results from the torque meter. For example, the Bosch had a very high torque reading but didn't do as well in the weight lifting.
I'm very surprised that with Bosch's backwards tilting battery and smaller size and length that it wasn't as 'comfortable' as the knock-off brands... As someone who teaches ergonomics for a living, it makes me think of teaching novices what comfortable 'is' in a 30 minute lesson versus having to hold a position for 4-6 hours for 15 - 20 years... it's a totally different thing after you realise where you should actually be positioning your weight and which muscles you should and shouldn't be using. Their opinion... I guarantee you, just like all my students opinions, would change.
You do realize how few people stay a single job for more than 5 yrs let alone 15-20 yrs. Often and continuous use will matter but then the question is how many people change industries. You may know that stat or where to find it better than I.
@@aaronblackford981 Many people are forced to leave jobs they love because their body is destroyed after only a couple years. Many people end up using the same tools and body parts despite changing jobs. The precise repetitive motion may vary. we know people today may change jobs 50 times before they retire, but they will likely stay in a field they find to be fulfilling or profitable as long as possible.
@@maxpulido I am aware that there’s always something that causes people change a love or passion. But I believe that’s common in a era when people watch 30 second videos and write Twitter posts all day long. If you love something, you normally can stay within that field, moving up or sideways where you still get to enjoy the love and just learn a different way to love it. I believe the disagreement is along the side of saying cnc woodworking isn’t real woodworking. It’s not how our grandparents did it. Yeah. Well of course. But why would we with the extra helps. If someone can make sanding automative, is that still woodworking, I doubt there anyone that would say its not. Besides the card scraper extras. Yes. I think anything less vibration or noise or dust is good overall. I doubt that people starting out are really thinking about that. Us older people, me at 50, care as much about it even yet.
No its not. Several channels have proven that the flexvolt out performs the PD in power. Not to mention deWalt will showcase the dcd999 at demonstrations instead of the power detect for obvious reasons.
As a flexvolt supremacist. Im gonna have to say you are wrong. My co worker has power detect and i got the dcd999. His isnt noticeably better when drilling thru rock for anchors. Mine is amazing and you cant say otherwise.
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Why did you say ' sorry Dewalt ' in the thumbnail and show it smoking ?
Bosch recommends that you use the 8 ah battery to get the drills full potential. The 4 amp hour is the bare minimum. Every test I've seen the Bosch smokes a little bit on very first test and is fine afterwards. Probably excess oil from the drill getting hot.
Bosch need mininum 5.5 Ah for the maximum tourque!
What comes with the kit, that is the most important question.
Bosch have 12 ah amp and then moment is hard and sustain torque .. use 4 ah is juke .
100% agree, if this testing was done with the recommeded battery the Bosch would smoke Dewalt and Flex in every category. Lowes and Home Depot have custom Bosch toolsets with the smaller batteries for this very reason due to their sponsorships with Dewalt and Milwaukee.
there is a reason why every craftsman in Europe buys blue series Bosch
I think that is not "going into reverse " for the Bosch, but the kickback control. Disable that before this test. And use the recommended batteries for the maximum power, 5.5-8+ Ah for Bosch. Actually they should all have similarly sized batteries.
I use Makita personally, I'm very impressed by the Bosch in your video, solid torque and battery life, no tricks. Speed, only matters for false advertising and UA-cam channels.
I wish I didn't have to go to Home Depot for my Makita tools. I hate going in there.
Not only that, the Bosch was using a smaller battery than recommended. It needs the 8Ah PROCORE the same way the DeWalt used a Flexvolt battery to obtain stellar numbers
@@kris738 Lol that is one of the reasons I went to Rona and got FLEX tools, also they were 50% off. I will deal with the heavy weight of them, plus they do drive things like GRK screws in much faster, so it kind of works out, and the speed does help if you are screwing in a 8 inch structural screw through a 10' ft 2 ply 2x12 beam someone is holding the other end of.
Which is better makita or bosch?
Counterpoint, I bought a Craftsman Drill/Impact kit several years ago and its done everything I have asked it to do as a home owner. Bought a Craftsman 20V reciprocating saw and an air inflator and those work great too. Just bought 2 Craftsman 4.0 AH batteries for $99. I think the Crafstman 20v line is perfectly fine for homeowners. Pros would certainly want higher end tools from Milwaukee or Dewalt, etc.
The nice thing about Craftsmans current line, is most of their new tools are just older Dewalt models rebadged and cheaper, which is not a bad thing.
None of the tools above are bad they are all very good craftsmen was just last no shame in this race.
Craftsman price point is clearly the cheapest option. I am getting the 6 tool 2 battery and charger kit for$199. Even though it is last on this trial run it’s good enough for occasional use around the house which is what my intention is for.
Craftsman may have been last, but it was also the cheapest by at least half and up to three times cheaper than the rest of them. So as far as I'm concerned Craftsman for the win. If im paying three times as much for a drill it better be as good as the DeWalt or flex that's all I'm saying
Wheres proof of this ? Dewalt is owned by black and decker part of the stanly group @JBPlaysGames1
Great video. I did want to mention though that you had the Kobalt in drilling mode when trying to determine the low end of the clutch so it wasn't actually trying to engage the clutch. It has 3 modes, drilling, driving, and hammer mode. Only the driving mode actually engages the clutch. For reference on the lowest clutch setting I can easily stop it with just my hand. I'm not sure it would have changed much overall though. Kobalt probably still ends second to last. I own one and like it well enough but now I'm considering Flex thanks to your video.
If I was starting out again, I would probably have gotten Makita but once you're locked into the battery system, it's like a sunk cost when you decide to switch to another brand. Ryobi probably makes the best tools for the average homeowner. Anything else is probably overkill and the collection is expensive. Ryobi is incredibly good value.
plus they have a huge variety of tools for a budget brand. You buy Hercules and youre gonna end up having to buy a diff brand when you want something specific.
Maybe, but I hate the green color they went to. I liked the original blue color. Also, Skil has really stepped up their game. I would say they are one of the best low cost tool system now. The same company that makes Flex and Kobalt make Skil.
That is why I have stuck with Ridgid. Same company that makes Milwaukee and Royobi. Except you get lifetime on tool and battery. I just replaced one of my batteries that was over 8 years old. No questions asked. They sent me a new 4 amp hour battery. I will probably never switch unless they get rid of their lifetime warranty.
@@jaserand6001I had rigid tools and then slowly switched to Dewalt and the Dewalt tools just preform better
DeWalt recommends a flex volt battery and Bosch recommends 8ah battery
I've loved Flex. Got the lifetime warranty and you get customer service right away. So far so pleased and I've beaten those tools to death on the jobsite. Can't complain.
How do you find the weight? And does the speed of them getting the job done quicker kind of make up for them being heavier? I just got a combo drill set but haven't used them yet.
@@dive2drive314 This is always the compromise. For the reliability I want, it gets heavier. No way to get around it. Flex tools are designed to be dropped and still function. When I am building furniture and it gets busy, and the pieces are big, sometimes tools drop from the bench to the concrete.
For me, I want reliability and torque. Speed, all drills have speed. This thing has torque to spare plus I can, drop it on occasion :)
The impact driver is incredible. I love it.
Im a dewalt guy, but i can't overlook the performance of the Flex.
Flex is Chinese garbage
Yeah, all the channels routinely show Flex as being extremely impressive.
the flex is 24v and still it was not a a huge difference
@@josuetorres8414yeah but the price for the drill compared to the Dewalt drill proves you get more bang for your buck with the Flex
I’m a Dewalt guy through and through, but it’s not like Dewalt dominates in every single power tool… Flex has some Cons… like most batteries being over 5.0Ah ($$$) but then again, most people who are thinking of owning a Flex power tool will likely be doing general construction for their jobs and not DIY
So as long as it’s not craftsman, it’s a good drill
If got some usa flag the guy doesnt ar impartial , flex is good , bus bosch with batery apropiated smash other msrks
I can't say I've used many other drill brands. Because I'm along way into dewalt. I think its just what you like and comfortable with. I do own 6 Milwaukee m12 tools great tools
Pretty much every power tool that I own (yard and shop) is Kobalt as well as my tools… I have absolutely ZERO complaints and yeah… they’ve been put to the test numerous times. I regularly use the impact to remove lug nuts with no issues.
I don’t know if the owner reads the comments. If he is looking for ideas this could be one.
As a contractor I have noticed over the last 2 years drill bits T-25, T-20, square, Phillips head, ext all break daily / weekly no matter what brand I buy. Comparison of strongest bits
I am a new home owner and my dad always used craftsman, so I bought my first tools and they are all craftsman (keeping tradition) I have never had an issue with speeds. However this video is pretty cool to see all these different results between brands. This is a great sample to see the range between Homeowner to Professional.
Craftsman was truly top-notch way back in the day before they had issues with ownership. They're not necessarily bad now. But their name has gotten pretty messed up because of the ownership switching around. There were a few bad years there in between. I wouldn't give up my old Craftsman drill for anything on this list.
I actually use Craftsman for my job as an installer, and it works pretty well for its price and they all tend to be pretty light which is nice.
Yes for the price it’s insane how many tools you get for 200 or 300 dollars kits for a garage guy/ DIYer it’s perfect
I'm just a home DIYer (currently working on a full kitchen remodel) and the Craftsman has performed well (until the Expanding Foam Incident*). I see how Craftsman comes in last for speed and power but honestly I don't care; I'm not working that fast anyway.
*I had some Great Stuff expanding foam in the bottom of the bin where I had several tools and accidentally knocked the top off and apparently depressed the sprayer because the foam filled up the bin, encasing everything in it. It got into the chuck of the drill, essentially gluing it shut. I simply couldn't get it unstuck and actually bought a second drill. Then today I tried using a pipe wrench to loosen the chuck and it worked! So I took the second drill back (I hadn't opened it yet) and the drill seems to be working okay again. Moral of the story: DON'T STORE EXPANDING FOAM WITH YOUR TOOLS! I hope you got a good chuckle out of that.
The antikickback on the Bosh flex and Milwaukee will hender the results on the lift test but on the Bosh and Milwaukee you can turn them off a button on the Bosh and Milwaukee you have to put it in lock 🔒 and press the trigger 5 times
Something I have learnt from being a musician and watching commercials on television is that loud this is not always the same thing just by measuring on a metre - in fact it is often misguided. You can have one really frequency peaking to the max and the metre will tell you that it's being obnoxious, yet it sounds tolerable, whereas, you can have every single frequency compressed and close to boiling point and the response from the metre is 'A - OK'.
Think of Harvey Norman commercials...
The best sound (tonality and volume) in this order:
1. Craftsman 8:25
2. Bosch
3. DeWalt
4. Flex
5. Kobalt
Tell ya what, while im already invested in the Milwaukee line and wouldnt change or even want to...Those tests with the Flex drill were very impressive..it wasnt just beating the others, it was in fact smoking them in 90% of the categories..first time Ive seen them in a comparison.
If their other tools are consistent like that.....it reminds me a bit of the Milwaukee line of tools...if the pricing is right (again and if the tools are consistent across their line) then it looks like a great line if your choosing which to invest in.
I went DeWalt, but Milwaukee is better overall. Their (my) leaf blower is horrible, glad I don't use it much.
You didn't test Metabo HPT from Lowe's.
Thanks for your review. I’m not sure for where you are but here in Australia if you register your Bosch tool online, the warranty is doubled to 6 years. If you don’t register the tool, then its 3 years.
Also, please only take this as constructive criticism but I personally think it would have been a fairer test if all brands had the same battery capacity as higher capacity batteries will always give the tool a better advantage, especially when you were doing the high torque tests. I know not all brands sell the same battery capacity but the battery capacity differences in your video are too wide between each other. Plus the Flex stacked lithium and even the DEWALT flex volt will always have the advantage due to the battery technology used. Also, in regards to comfort I think it would have been better scored if the testers actually used the drills or held them for longer at the same height you would usually use a drill, rather than just casually holding it for a few seconds. Obviously you can’t use the drills while being blindfolded but maybe you could cover up the drills somehow instead. Apart from that thanks for your effort in making these videos. I’ve learnt many things from your channel.
I used to use Bosch but the battery prove went through the roof so I've moved to makita L series, loving it. Still Bosch was very impressive in this video.
One brand I don't see that Lowe's carries is Metabo HPT formally Hitachi. Imo is the best and my go to tools.
I’m a 20+ year career tradesmen and I’ve handled and used all sorts of tools from all sorts of brands. For homeowners just get whatever is cheapest to get the task done. For pros it varies wildly what is “best” depending on tool. My general cheat sheet personally is Milwaukee for most tools, Bosch for any SDS chipping/hammer drill or lasers, ridgid for any plumbing specific tools (except the pro-press gun). Lines like craftsman/kobalt are relegated to hand tools only. Even the craftsman multi-tool blades are trash and the spot welds tend to wear out faster than other brands like dewalt or Milwaukee.
But which one can I throw from my roof onto concrete and forget in the snow for a week without it dying?
No Metabo hpt?
This video is just what I needed to start my morning off right. Some interesting testing methods and not so surprising results kept me entertained and provided good laughs. Keep up this great content !
my kobalts have never let me down yet. Been using them for awhile now and love em'
I’ll stick with Red.
Lots of tools perform well.
Hitachi is a good one I bought after a locksmith used one on my home . He said they have lasted longer than any other and he uses his everyday .
For the Bosch you need a 5.5ah/8ah battery
Yeah the 4ah is not enough power.
Flex is the German brand people use when they want something a step above from Bosch, but not quite as expensive as Festool.
In defense of craftsman, it's not a heavy-duty drill its a mid range drill
i switched to all Kobalt cordless tools and have no been disappointed or looked back.
Just joined the xtr brushless line and wow just wow is all i can say
Thank you for testing them out, I'm a DeWalt and Milwaukee user, AS far as now so satisfied with both performance of the power tools... Your video is adding my knowledge especially for Flex performance... 👌🏼😁
Bosch is an absolute beast I use the 8ah batteries.
8ah battery yup can get job done while getting a nice arm workout at same time
If you knew weight was an important metric, why let them handle with batteries vs without? It's not a fair comparison. It would be more appropriate if you got all the same ah batteries, and tested as such.
Good tool its a good tool... important ... support . Replacement. Warranty . Exchange batery accesory etc . If the tool do the job with good performance good.. other details are for kids... 2 seconds more faster... etc etc
Metabo/HiKOKI? especially there impact driver!
I love these.
No Menard's? Curious how their Masterforce stacks up against something like Bauer.
the bosch is really impressive. used with an non-recommended battery for its full potential and it is a 20v tool while the majority uses 24v system. and only 149. And the smoke has already been covered as being excessive amount of burnt grease.
Just a thought, and not sure if it has been said already. But what about buying a 1/4” hex key, cut it down, and use it for the torque test.
As a collector myself, the flex absolutely embarrasses all my other 18-24v drills. It pains me to say that as a Milwaukee guy. I also have the Makita XGT gph01 and it beats the Flex. Best drill on the market in my opinion.
I'll have to try that one!
@@LRN2DIY The XGT platform is way too expensive, but you definitely get what you pay for. Keep up the great work!
Great vid and testing! IMHO, fastest/most powerful is kind of 2 dimensional. There are always other factors to consider. Ergonomics was interesting! How many people know that Bosch and Makita are electric motor manufacturers? Not that one detail makes them best. But how many people would buy tools labelled as "Outsource By Chevron" or "Assembled for TTI"? Even Stanley/Black&Decker/DeWalt" goes to the international tool crib. Flex is great, no doubt. Not cheap either. Wrist damage is always a consideration, too. Personally, I'm a huge fan of smooth operation and tool control. We have great choices today. I miss heavier (steel chassis) and less powerful tools for nostalgic reasons. They lasted decades.
*Chervon
How are you not gonna include Metabo HPT?!?!? The best brand in Lowe’s
Agreed, the Craftsman was just out of place here but a flagship Metabo HPT would have felt like home
Exactly the best line of tool's on market as far as quality, affordably, durability. It's the brand most trusted #1 by the construction industry.
I had that Kobalt drill....it lasted 6 months or so before the gears inside the drill completely imploded.
The price was good at the time and the batteries are pretty cheap compared to the price of others,
I find it amusing how many comments on the lowes sight say things like "I dont know how they make such a great tool for the price" for reviews for it...Kobalt is ok for the price but it really is a heavy drill and a bit unwieldy imo along with its the first drill I have ever owned that utterly failed half a year in.....even cheaper drills usually last years, it is mostly the opther type of tools that fail in a cheaper line imo.
Anyway, I still think given the right price the Kobalt line can be worthwhile.....but i gave them a shot and got burned and moved on before I got to deep investing in that line.
I bought a dewalt driver and drill for $99 each on sale from Lowes and both came with 2 2ah batteries. The driver has 1700 in lbs. which is plenty. With the 6ah it would real nice.
On a concrete crew dropping tools on hard or concrete mix, subject to rain and mud the dewalt tools just won’t quit after many years. A new boss took over the company and switch to Hilti and it’s the biggest pile of dung. Impacts last a few months, the saw can barely cut through thick wood. Don’t get me wrong. There are great Hilti tools such as the corded big breakers but my experience on cordless Hilti is just bad.
My company also supplies hilti and the cordless stuff is junk. I swear we have batteries stop taking a charge every few months
WTH is Hilti? Never heard of it?
Out of curiosity. When testing the weight are you including the weight of the platform?
Great honest testthank you.. I have Dewalt and I will only buy the wall because of the batteries.. The cost of batteries are getting out of hand..
FLEX is nothing but the truth dude, I am loving it.
I knew I’d find you here man😂🔥🔥💪💪💯💯
@@IMPACT-NATION dude t am like the am ambassador for FLEX dude constantly fighting against the Naysayers and stand behind tool truth without the BS or bias.
Dude that sounds good, lol..
Im a flexvolt and flexvolt advantage guy for the last 5 yrs. Only because the company i work for has dewalt and we swap batteries. So i stook with dewalt even for personal use. But i respect flex. Its ridiculous and i always see their advertisements.
@@matt59fire this is FLEX first generation of tools so that's saying a lot.
Unfortunately, I have had the worst experiences at my local Lowes and no longer shop there. Since Home Depot is just a mile away, I find myself shopping there for most of my tools. For "disposables," a Harbor Freight is a couple of miles away.
Disposables?
@@matt59fire As in inexpensive items or tools that have a seriously limited lifetime of use. I take it you don't take care of DIY projects around your own home or vehicle.
@Charlielizard I take it you assume everyone who looks at tool reviews arent Profesionals and are all diy ppl? I work with my tools to earn a paycheck. Anything else? Never used anything besides yellow or red.
@Ready321 Assume? Am quite sure you know the definition and especially why one would need to rely on that word. 99% of the time based on ignorance. Am a professional and watch as many reviews as possible. Nice to see how something works prior to an investment. Enjoy your time playing as an ignorant keyboard warrior.
@Charlielizard Not being a keyboard warrior because i havent attacked or threatened you. Seems you are sensitive. But yeah, you assumed. You literally said "i take it you dont....." thats called assumption.
This newer Bosch drill beats them all, it needs an 8ah battery though for peak performance due to the biturbo motor. I understand we work with what we have but sometimes it’s not fair when other tools are paired with their matching battery, but never the Bosch.
I’ve had a few folks mention that so I’m going to try to get the proper battery for the Bosch and run it again. I had similar comments about the battery I used for the Ryobi drill in the first video so that’ll be a do-over as well. It’s one of the many reasons I appreciate the helpful feedback on UA-cam - allows to me course correct as needed and learn new things.
best
1. Flex
2. Bosch
3. Makita
4. Milwaukee
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As I understand it, the Dewalt at Home Depot has a Craftsman motor in some cases.
My Metabo HPT is feeling left out haha
Appreciate your video. I’m a sorry Kobalt owner and need to inform you they have serious flaw you may uncover in a drop test. I have broken two 24v Kobalts by simply dropping them. I’m not sure what exactly broke internally but both were dropped from less than 4’ onto concrete and will no longer operate. Motor runs but grinds and chuck spins freely. I have other older and cheaper brands that withstand far greater abuse.
Thx for the content. Unfortunately, you forgot two brands Lowe's carries as well. Metabo(HTP), and Skil.
Stacked lithium on the flex evens the playing board there pal, plus milwaukee kicks dewalt in the teeth too! But I like dewalt it's okay, I have some of them too
First, let me mention that Craftsman is just reskinned Dewalt. I literally found a Craftsman brushless drill and impact driver with identical specs as the DCD777 and DCF787.
Second, I would like to mention that I just tested the Flex turbo, the DCD999 and the Gen 4 Milwaukee driving 1/2” drill bits through 8 inches of wood.
The Flex is not that comfortable to use and, without turbo, it’s not that fast. Note: I didn’t use the turbo to make the test fair.
The 999 is heavy, but comfortable and smooth. The Milwaukee was the most comfortable by far, and the fastest overall.
My test was based on what I am actually looking to use the drill for.
The bigger capacity battery on the Flex has a lot to do with its power.
Impressed with the new comer, Flex.
Next video with the low value brands should be amusing.
Where is the 36v Metabo
What about metabo HPT?
Maybe it was just the optics. But it seemed that the busted shanks were busting because you didn’t have the shank in the chuck beyond the locking ring. I’ve busted spade bits for the same reason.
Oh man, where's my Makita?
I'm just curious how it will perform because I'm very happy with it, great tool.
The weight lifting is the true power of the tool
How does pushing hard affect the results? Will the results be better or worse when letting the "tool do the work"?
The fact you have 4 friends that will come over just to feel drills is crazy
can you redo this video but add the 36v metabo hpt drill into it?
What I have noticed that you do not take drill properly, your left hand is always covering vents of the drill, that is not good on using it, it will cause overheating of it. Other than that I'm impressed with Flex, I would buy it if I live in States just because of warranty, but in Europe only Bosch, but with propper battery.
I’m a lil bias cuz of the Dewalt addiction I have but my question is with the title shot???
How did you get a Dewalt FlexVolt kit at Lowe’s? That’s Home Depot’s version, the Lowe’s version is the power Detect (DCD998 for Lowe’s, DCD999 for HD)
came here to say this. lol. thank you
@@kbtools9641 I jumped the gun based on the thumbnail, he actually clarifies it near the beginning. Oops!
@@G19Jeeper iknow as did i lol
You see the one number jump? From 98 to 99? You see that? Flexvolt supremacy right there. Power detect is inferior 😎
@@matt59fire power detect is def the way to go. my 999 sits in my packout
I have been using the same Dewalt impact driver for over 10 years. I've had to replace the battery but other than that nothing but great things. So who makes the drill for craftsman? They never produced their own power tools as far as I remember.
Only 2 drills had a 6.0? Should retest them all with the same battery size. Also all marketing is made with the biggest battery they have unless specified otherwise
Yeah the test is flawed due to the battery capacity difference and battery technology too. This is why the Bosch was able to break the bit when using it in short bursts but didn’t do the best in high torque tests due to only using a 4ah battery.
@@khuongathebounga4141 Cant talk for all the tools but i know bosch recomends at least the procore 5,5ah or 8ah to get the most of that drill.
500lbs on DeWalt 60V with 6Ah Hammer Drill VS Flex 24V 6Ah stack lithium at 465lbs. And only 35lbs difference. You haven't used the Flex 24V 10Ah Stack Lithium Battery yet! It makes a lot of difference. And that's what I have now on myFlex Quick Eject Brushless impact driver and The Turbo Hammer Drill they beaten the DeWalt Flexvolt and The Milwaukee Gen4. DeWalt is no good on drilling concrete and the Milwaukee as well they are so dead slow! With the Flex the hammer function is a beast. It can punch a hole so quickly. Just like my old Bosch HD18-2 corded hammer drill.
The DeWalt has shown more power when paired with the 9 ah than my 6 ah Flexvolt tested 2 1/2+ yrs ago
What does that tell you ?
Why is the Kobalt in drill mode for the clutch test, its supposed to be in screw mode
I love my Milwaukee tools
Zack Builds did a review of a three or four drills and tore them down. Interesting how they all essentially have the exact same components with "very" minor differences.
I would pay good money for the software necessary to use a bauer battery in a dewalt tool.
@@maxpulido isn’t all that’s needed is a battery adapter?
OMG!!! He used the Ed Bassmaster!!! 😂😂😂😂 Love it
You handicapped the PROFACTOR. that 4amh core battery is not recommended for PROFACTOR tools.
8ah or bigger on BOSCH PROFACTOR is needed for BITURBO.
Id's say that if the DeWalt had that much power, but under performed vs the Flex, that the Flex is just categorically better.
Thought you said you would out all the other drills comparisons on this video
I got into power tools back in 2018 i wanted to purchase the portable cable combo kit i thought long and hard about it and decided to go with kobalt i got the piece combo kit drill driver impact drill flashlight circular saw and Reciprocating and the little power source to charge anything usb knowing my warranty just expired on the tools 5 yrs im not sure how far can they go since im a mainly a home guy diy im been engar to bring them to my job so i can really make use of the tools i kind of invested already got two 2.0 batteries along with three 4.0 batteries i work slightly in janitorial and the walls are disaster im trying to convince my boss can i replace the walls our business services dept dont do jack squat
but if i were to upgrade i would choose kobalt xtr or flex for up to date technology performance reliability
Which is the fastest (impact driver) drill? I'm looking for dremel level speed. Thanks
The dewalt flex volt is Home Depot
The dewalt power detect is lowes
He addressed this in the first 2 minutes of the video 🤕
Bosch Dewalt top de gama /recomiendo ambos
Are you using a fresh battery for each test?
can you try the dewalt with 5ah powerstack
Out of curiosity which setting did you have the Dewalt in for lag bolts as it has settings where most the others have 2 ?????
The weight test is a fun test, but kinda not needed when you measured the torque each one provides
I thought that might be the case but I had such varying results from the torque tests that I think the weight test helps. I just can't get consistent results from the torque meter. For example, the Bosch had a very high torque reading but didn't do as well in the weight lifting.
Actually it does matter if you ever find yourself having to torque lug nuts or bolts
Lowes is not going anywhere unless they have an online store or something like it so you have a good idea what you need to get it done ✅
I will love Home Depot
I'm very surprised that with Bosch's backwards tilting battery and smaller size and length that it wasn't as 'comfortable' as the knock-off brands... As someone who teaches ergonomics for a living, it makes me think of teaching novices what comfortable 'is' in a 30 minute lesson versus having to hold a position for 4-6 hours for 15 - 20 years... it's a totally different thing after you realise where you should actually be positioning your weight and which muscles you should and shouldn't be using. Their opinion... I guarantee you, just like all my students opinions, would change.
You do realize how few people stay a single job for more than 5 yrs let alone 15-20 yrs. Often and continuous use will matter but then the question is how many people change industries. You may know that stat or where to find it better than I.
@@aaronblackford981 Many people are forced to leave jobs they love because their body is destroyed after only a couple years.
Many people end up using the same tools and body parts despite changing jobs. The precise repetitive motion may vary.
we know people today may change jobs 50 times before they retire, but they will likely stay in a field they find to be fulfilling or profitable as long as possible.
@@maxpulido I am aware that there’s always something that causes people change a love or passion. But I believe that’s common in a era when people watch 30 second videos and write Twitter posts all day long. If you love something, you normally can stay within that field, moving up or sideways where you still get to enjoy the love and just learn a different way to love it. I believe the disagreement is along the side of saying cnc woodworking isn’t real woodworking. It’s not how our grandparents did it. Yeah. Well of course. But why would we with the extra helps. If someone can make sanding automative, is that still woodworking, I doubt there anyone that would say its not. Besides the card scraper extras. Yes. I think anything less vibration or noise or dust is good overall. I doubt that people starting out are really thinking about that. Us older people, me at 50, care as much about it even yet.
@@aaronblackford981 buddy, read.
If it drops the load when you let off, that should not be a passing test.
All Craftsman tools are good but not what they used to be still good for like a homeowner but if your a procthey wont last long
You don’t need that big of a battery on a drill dewalts comfortable idk about most but it does what it needs to do
The Dewalt Power Detect is the most powerful Dewalt drill.
No its not. Several channels have proven that the flexvolt out performs the PD in power. Not to mention deWalt will showcase the dcd999 at demonstrations instead of the power detect for obvious reasons.
As a flexvolt supremacist. Im gonna have to say you are wrong. My co worker has power detect and i got the dcd999. His isnt noticeably better when drilling thru rock for anchors. Mine is amazing and you cant say otherwise.
Harbor freight in Walmart test is not fair because the Hercules drill will easily beat all of its competitors
best tools flex,festool
Where are those 1000+ inch lb torques claimed???
Bosch need mininum 5.5 Ah for the maximum tourque!