Amigos, el sur si es pobre... Bogotá tiene un gran problema de segregación socioeconómica, y de desigualdad. Y aunque haya barrios de clase media, son normalmente de clase media-baja, y rodeados de no muy bonitos vecindarios, y no tiene nada de malo, pero un extranjero dudo mucho que quiera residir ahí, a menos que su enfoque sea el de ayuda social o algo por el estilo.
good neighborhoods: west: El salitre near of the airport, teusaquillo, (near of chapinero), santa isabel, la macarena y el bosque izquierdo (east) ciudadela colsubsidio (far of the city centre in north west) Antonio nariño (starting the south) etc
If you like shopping malls then you will love bogota , bogota must be in the top 5 in the world with more shopping malls and they still every year making more lol, I’ve been to London for a year , Tokyo for 5 years and New York for several times and I didn’t see in any of those 3 huge cities also the same amount of malls like in bogota ! To be honest I don’t know why there’s so many but I guess if they making and making it’s because the city have the people to spend there , well that’s a city with 8 million people and all the metropolitan area with more than 10 millions
People would rather to find everything close, I mean we grow up in a society that taugh us that you find al most everything in a shopping mall from restaurants , banks , glasses to your favorite shoes, i dont know how is in other countries, but here you fond pretty much everything that you want to spend there in one place, instead of going around a citie looking for something.
Wow you missed some of the best neighborhoods such as La Macarena (hip restaurants, cafes, etc), Teusaquillo (intellectual center if Bogota), Quinta Camacho, trendy area south of 72 (aka Ave Chile ) where tons of good restaurants and yet no too pretentious. Rosales and Santa Barbara are extremely conservative and bland areas. Not sure who you are catering to? Those areas have no character or charm. Usaquen yes (separate from Santa Barbara), the center of Santa Barbara is cra 19 and calle 127 not Usaquen was a small charming pueble overtaken by the rich, small town feeling with trendy restaurants and boutique stores people go on Sundays, especially to their Sunday Farmer’s market.
What about a "house" in Guaymaral to live but offices in the south? You don't show the south but I've never had bad experiences in the south. And the street food is great.
I just saw the first part of the video but yes, south is were we have more poverty or lower class but that doesnt mean middle class people cant live in the south. Many people live in the south to save money, avoid paying taxes, they are travelers and so need a simple place to sgay when they come back, etc. Also you said estrato. Does people know what estrato means? Either way whatever information you give is most def. Helpful for many people. Just thought maybe detailed video i guess important points would be good. Thanks
Some added notes to the video: - I (Sam) sound a little harsh to some people with the comment about the poor people live in the South. This is surely a generalization and was not meant to offend anyone. In no way I think being "financially poor" is a bad thing that's why I said it bluntly like this. Still the information surely is correct and not a lot of newby Expats will feel comfortable in these areas. - Cabrera is less commercial and much more a residential neighborhood and much more costly per sq. meter than el Chico. - The US ambassador’s home is NOT in Santa Ana
Hello, You said in your video that Chapinero is an LGBT neighborhood and is not a very nice area, how far is Chico to Chapinero? I plan to move to Bogata in a year
It's a pretty cool, middle high income neighborhood for the most part. Tons of small cafés and nice restaurants, but definitely has more of a residential feeling. Chapinero alto goes from roughly Calle 45 to Calle 68, and between Carrera 1 and 7, but the neighborhood gets nicer the northern you go. It also gets more expensive, as you're getting closer and closer to Rosales. The neighborhood is also very central, and it's very easy and quick to get to either the entertainment district (Zona t) or the historic center (la candelaria). I'd avoid living anywhere south of Calle 53, it's not as nice and can be sketchy at times. I live on calle 64 with carrera 4, really close to zona g (zona gourmet), so lots of amazing bars and restaurants a block away (Calle 65 to calle 72). I'm amazed how chapinero alto didnt make the cut on their list, it's one of the most popular neighborhoods among expats in bogota, for a reason. Again, look for anything north of Calle 60 if you can, but anything north of 53 is already considered good and '' exclusive'' in Bogotá.
@@mijailraigorodsky9937 Thanks a lot for your comment, yes Chapiniero alto would be the next part but it also had to do that we just not had the time to go there as well. Bogota is just very big :D
Hi Sam I'm a new Subscriber to your channel and I picked an Airbnb and I'm wondering if my husband and I made a good choice we picked a place in Centro Bogota called 72 hub - food hall Colonia 72 Piso 1 we're assuming that the apartments are upstairs based on the reviews would you be able to give us your truthful opinion about this area ie Carreara 26 Thanks looking forward to your response 👍we'll keep in touch 🤗🤗
4:01 You say to find an apartment for under 8,100 dollars a month in Rosales is not very common. Are you sure its that much? I could rent a house next to Apple Headquarters in Silicon Valley for that much. When I do a search of Rosales on Airbnb it seems easy to find very nice places for 800 bucks a month. I think you may have messed up a decimal point ha ha.
Dear how to expat. You really dont think much of poor people do you? Just because you are poor doesnt make you less of a person. In fact some the best people i have met are people who are poor or would be considered poor by Western standard. People should be judged by the content of their character and not status or wealth.
He wasn't judging. Get off your high horse. And now that you know where the poor people live, you can go live there too. But you won't. Because you don't want to live with poor people, do you?
Hi Steve, Medellin's weather is the best in our opinion. It's kinda always Tshirt weather in Medellin. Bogota, on the other hand, is pretty chilly all year round. During the day it can get quite warm but at night you surely need a jacket.
@@HowToExpat Thanks, good to hear it on the ground. We have been watching our weather app to compare to our winter. And how you described Bogota was what we suspected. That being said, sounds like a great place for some to live and for many to visit from Medellin (for us it will be :)). Shirt sleeves sounds grand to us, near perfection on our pros list.
Wow, the comment about the poor people in the south of Bogotá was awful. Just a correction, please don't generalize, in the south there are also rich people, even people with more money than people in the north.
Yes you're right I could have said it differently, sometimes if you want to hold a video as short as possible, things come out (generalizations) that you don't mean that way.
Your video offers a poor vision of what the historical center is. Comments or intentions such as not covering the south because its socio-economical conditions it's just stereotypical.
He is talking about neighborhoods to live in for expats not to get robbed in. Go search up historical sites in Bogota Colombia on youtube and I'm sure than the video will make more sense.
The comment, DON'T GO TO SOUTH BECAUSE POOR PEOPLE LIVE THERE, it is very discrimating. Por and rich people should be treated the same and both has a lot to show.
Thats is a close vision of Bogota is. This video only shows the north of bogota, like its the paradise. And how you said that teusaquillo and salitre are bad neighboorhods. You dont know nothing, only lies to desinform people.
What a horrible thing to say: "Forget about the south of Bogotà because this is where the poor people live." What. Are they any less people because they are poor? Besides, not all of the south of Bogotá is poor. There are middle class areas and new developments
I know what you're trying to say. It's kind of a Marie Antoinette thing to say but I can't fault them for saying that at all. My experience is living in Santiago, Chile but I think Bogota is similar in many respects. There are a lot of reasons they say to avoid the poorer areas. 1. Much of their audience doesn't speak much Spanish and in these areas there are few people who can help them with the language (y estoy de acuerdo que gingros deberian poner mas esfuerzo en aprender otras idiomas, especialmente si viven en un pais estranjero pero tu sabes como gringos son asi lamentablemente) . 2. There are a lot of people struggling financially in these areas and you are really a huge target or temptation as a relatively very rich foreigner. 3. The shopping and restaurants are much more what you're used to and what you'd like. If I want to eat Japanese food, I will find it in wealthier neighborhoods in Latin America. 4. Wealthier neighborhoods just look and feel more like home. Gringos are going to feel uncomfortable living in an area with lots of graffiti and streets that are dirtier. 5. Even if you speak great Spanish, most gringos are going to have more in common with and more to talk about with more upper class people who have traveled, have a good education, etc. I sound really arrogant saying that but its the reality. 6. The quality of the housing, the stability of electricity and water, etc. is much better in the more expensive areas. I did not like the attitude of rich people in Chile who called poor people "rotos" and would never dare go into a poor area of town. I think it hurts a country when they ignore the poor and give them no means to have a decent life, education and a fair chance to improve their economic status. My country very guilty of this, especially now, as well. I completely understand why Marxist movements have been popular in Latin America. All that being said, 99% of gringos coming to Colombia to live are not going to want to live in poorer areas.
@@andrescarrillo6036 if its not a nice place to live its not a nice place to live, the vast majority of expats aren't looking to move to Colombia to live in an impoverished area. Saying lower income people and poor people is the same thing, because he's talking economically. if you have a problem with it, that is on you my friend.
Suba is a mess. My girlfriend lived there. I lived in Barrio Colombia. Just north of Siete de Agosto. I loved it.
Yes, there were some lovely areas you showed. Thank you!
Neighborhoods in the south are not poor, it has big malls too and Highrises aparments buildings
Amigos, el sur si es pobre... Bogotá tiene un gran problema de segregación socioeconómica, y de desigualdad. Y aunque haya barrios de clase media, son normalmente de clase media-baja, y rodeados de no muy bonitos vecindarios, y no tiene nada de malo, pero un extranjero dudo mucho que quiera residir ahí, a menos que su enfoque sea el de ayuda social o algo por el estilo.
Thank you for this video. I’m visiting Bogotá in July 2020 and you’ve helped me decide to in which part of Bogotá to stay. The north it is! 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Thanks a lot, we are glad to hear that.
Enjoy your time in Bogotá!
What’s happening with your plans during the pandemic?
good neighborhoods: west: El salitre near of the airport, teusaquillo, (near of chapinero), santa isabel, la macarena y el bosque izquierdo (east) ciudadela colsubsidio (far of the city centre in north west) Antonio nariño (starting the south) etc
I wouldn't be able to answer questions about where I lived without saying "Heeeeeey Macarena" if I lived in that neighborhood.
Nice video thanks! What about Salitre?
Thank you for the video! Very informative
If you like shopping malls then you will love bogota , bogota must be in the top 5 in the world with more shopping malls and they still every year making more lol, I’ve been to London for a year , Tokyo for 5 years and New York for several times and I didn’t see in any of those 3 huge cities also the same amount of malls like in bogota ! To be honest I don’t know why there’s so many but I guess if they making and making it’s because the city have the people to spend there , well that’s a city with 8 million people and all the metropolitan area with more than 10 millions
I was already surprised by the malls in Medellin, but Bogota is even more 😁
People would rather to find everything close, I mean we grow up in a society that taugh us that you find al most everything in a shopping mall from restaurants , banks , glasses to your favorite shoes, i dont know how is in other countries, but here you fond pretty much everything that you want to spend there in one place, instead of going around a citie looking for something.
I think this is a very good recommendation. Also Id add Cedritos which is close to unicentro and santa barbara
Thanks a lot for your comment. :D
Wow you missed some of the best neighborhoods such as La Macarena (hip restaurants, cafes, etc), Teusaquillo (intellectual center if Bogota), Quinta Camacho, trendy area south of 72 (aka Ave Chile ) where tons of good restaurants and yet no too pretentious. Rosales and Santa Barbara are extremely conservative and bland areas. Not sure who you are catering to? Those areas have no character or charm. Usaquen yes (separate from
Santa Barbara), the center of Santa Barbara is cra 19 and calle 127 not Usaquen was a small charming pueble overtaken by the rich, small town feeling with trendy restaurants and boutique stores people go on Sundays, especially to their Sunday Farmer’s market.
Hi Sam. Have you done a video like this in Medellin showing the different neighborhoods?
What about a "house" in Guaymaral to live but offices in the south? You don't show the south but I've never had bad experiences in the south. And the street food is great.
the part you call santabarbara is really calleja, algo a beautifull place
Yeah my girlfriend lives on like Street 179 we are planning on buying a house though in Santa Maria closer to her parents and nicer weather
I just saw the first part of the video but yes, south is were we have more poverty or lower class but that doesnt mean middle class people cant live in the south. Many people live in the south to save money, avoid paying taxes, they are travelers and so need a simple place to sgay when they come back, etc. Also you said estrato. Does people know what estrato means? Either way whatever information you give is most def. Helpful for many people. Just thought maybe detailed video i guess important points would be good. Thanks
Some added notes to the video:
- I (Sam) sound a little harsh to some people with the comment about the poor people live in the South. This is surely a generalization and was not meant to offend anyone. In no way I think being "financially poor" is a bad thing that's why I said it bluntly like this. Still the information surely is correct and not a lot of newby Expats will feel comfortable in these areas.
- Cabrera is less commercial and much more a residential neighborhood and much more costly per sq. meter than el Chico.
- The US ambassador’s home is NOT in Santa Ana
Hello, You said in your video that Chapinero is an LGBT neighborhood and is not a very nice area, how far is Chico to Chapinero? I plan to move to Bogata in a year
Love these videos. Hoping someday dreams become reality.
Thanks a lot. Love the dog in your profile picture 😁
I am curious about Chapinero Alto. Did you visit that neighborhood?
Just Chapiniero itself. So I can't tell you more about that myself.
It's a pretty cool, middle high income neighborhood for the most part. Tons of small cafés and nice restaurants, but definitely has more of a residential feeling. Chapinero alto goes from roughly Calle 45 to Calle 68, and between Carrera 1 and 7, but the neighborhood gets nicer the northern you go. It also gets more expensive, as you're getting closer and closer to Rosales. The neighborhood is also very central, and it's very easy and quick to get to either the entertainment district (Zona t) or the historic center (la candelaria).
I'd avoid living anywhere south of Calle 53, it's not as nice and can be sketchy at times. I live on calle 64 with carrera 4, really close to zona g (zona gourmet), so lots of amazing bars and restaurants a block away (Calle 65 to calle 72).
I'm amazed how chapinero alto didnt make the cut on their list, it's one of the most popular neighborhoods among expats in bogota, for a reason. Again, look for anything north of Calle 60 if you can, but anything north of 53 is already considered good and '' exclusive'' in Bogotá.
@@mijailraigorodsky9937 Thanks a lot for your comment, yes Chapiniero alto would be the next part but it also had to do that we just not had the time to go there as well. Bogota is just very big :D
I ❤ these guys
U miss SUBA north wets bogota
Im from there and its awezome
Si SUba es muy hermosa..
Hi Sam I'm a new Subscriber to your channel and I picked an Airbnb and I'm wondering if my husband and I made a good choice we picked a place in Centro Bogota called 72 hub - food hall Colonia 72 Piso 1 we're assuming that the apartments are upstairs based on the reviews would you be able to give us your truthful opinion about this area ie Carreara 26 Thanks looking forward to your response 👍we'll keep in touch 🤗🤗
You think this still stands as this was 4 years ago?
Pretty much so.
A very good video.
4:01 You say to find an apartment for under 8,100 dollars a month in Rosales is not very common. Are you sure its that much? I could rent a house next to Apple Headquarters in Silicon Valley for that much. When I do a search of Rosales on Airbnb it seems easy to find very nice places for 800 bucks a month. I think you may have messed up a decimal point ha ha.
Lol. He says below $800 $1000 per month. Not $8,100.
@@Kthomasritchie You're right. Time to get my ears checked.
Dear how to expat. You really dont think much of poor people do you? Just because you are poor doesnt make you less of a person. In fact some the best people i have met are people who are poor or would be considered poor by Western standard. People should be judged by the content of their character and not status or wealth.
Please read the explanation on the pinned comment and my last video. Should explain a lot.
He wasn't judging. Get off your high horse. And now that you know where the poor people live, you can go live there too. But you won't. Because you don't want to live with poor people, do you?
Bogotá 💖🇨🇴
Nice video
Hi, what do you think about the weather compared to Medellin? Another interesting post, thank you again.
Hi Steve,
Medellin's weather is the best in our opinion. It's kinda always Tshirt weather in Medellin.
Bogota, on the other hand, is pretty chilly all year round. During the day it can get quite warm but at night you surely need a jacket.
@@HowToExpat Thanks, good to hear it on the ground. We have been watching our weather app to compare to our winter. And how you described Bogota was what we suspected. That being said, sounds like a great place for some to live and for many to visit from Medellin (for us it will be :)). Shirt sleeves sounds grand to us, near perfection on our pros list.
nice video
Wow, the comment about the poor people in the south of Bogotá was awful. Just a correction, please don't generalize, in the south there are also rich people, even people with more money than people in the north.
Yes you're right I could have said it differently, sometimes if you want to hold a video as short as possible, things come out (generalizations) that you don't mean that way.
@@HowToExpat don't worry man, everyone that's not easily offendable understands what you meant without it being demonized.
there are good hoods in south and also there ara bad hood in north. the south has middle class and poor neighborhoods
Your video offers a poor vision of what the historical center is. Comments or intentions such as not covering the south because its socio-economical conditions it's just stereotypical.
He is talking about neighborhoods to live in for expats not to get robbed in. Go search up historical sites in Bogota Colombia on youtube and I'm sure than the video will make more sense.
Handsome Sam.
The comment, DON'T GO TO SOUTH BECAUSE POOR PEOPLE LIVE THERE, it is very discrimating. Por and rich people should be treated the same and both has a lot to show.
Help me expat
Thats is a close vision of Bogota is. This video only shows the north of bogota, like its the paradise. And how you said that teusaquillo and salitre are bad neighboorhods. You dont know nothing, only lies to desinform people.
What a horrible thing to say: "Forget about the south of Bogotà because this is where the poor people live." What. Are they any less people because they are poor?
Besides, not all of the south of Bogotá is poor. There are middle class areas and new developments
I know what you're trying to say. It's kind of a Marie Antoinette thing to say but I can't fault them for saying that at all. My experience is living in Santiago, Chile but I think Bogota is similar in many respects.
There are a lot of reasons they say to avoid the poorer areas. 1. Much of their audience doesn't speak much Spanish and in these areas there are few people who can help them with the language (y estoy de acuerdo que gingros deberian poner mas esfuerzo en aprender otras idiomas, especialmente si viven en un pais estranjero pero tu sabes como gringos son asi lamentablemente) . 2. There are a lot of people struggling financially in these areas and you are really a huge target or temptation as a relatively very rich foreigner. 3. The shopping and restaurants are much more what you're used to and what you'd like. If I want to eat Japanese food, I will find it in wealthier neighborhoods in Latin America. 4. Wealthier neighborhoods just look and feel more like home. Gringos are going to feel uncomfortable living in an area with lots of graffiti and streets that are dirtier. 5. Even if you speak great Spanish, most gringos are going to have more in common with and more to talk about with more upper class people who have traveled, have a good education, etc. I sound really arrogant saying that but its the reality. 6. The quality of the housing, the stability of electricity and water, etc. is much better in the more expensive areas.
I did not like the attitude of rich people in Chile who called poor people "rotos" and would never dare go into a poor area of town. I think it hurts a country when they ignore the poor and give them no means to have a decent life, education and a fair chance to improve their economic status. My country very guilty of this, especially now, as well. I completely understand why Marxist movements have been popular in Latin America. All that being said, 99% of gringos coming to Colombia to live are not going to want to live in poorer areas.
He should have presented that the south is lower income in a better way. Saying to forget the area completely is classist
@@andrescarrillo6036 if its not a nice place to live its not a nice place to live, the vast majority of expats aren't looking to move to Colombia to live in an impoverished area. Saying lower income people and poor people is the same thing, because he's talking economically. if you have a problem with it, that is on you my friend.
This people do not now nothing about my country