“Hey we’re one bad day from going under maybe we should build something for the everyman-“ “HORSEPOWER HORSEPOWER TORQUE TORQUE! MY DICK IS FULL MAST! I PASS A KIDNEY STONE EVERY TIME I NUT!!! 707 HORSepower… oh no… Marie… I came on the carpet again…”
Funny thing is that in the video hellcat is compared to Bill Goldberg and later Goldberg (in that stone cold podcast i think) stated that his dream car is demon.
+Apex Attitude What? M8 are you a Victorian or something? Not every state is a police state when it comes to cars/speeding like Victoria is ya know. And Op, we do HSV's with Walkinshaw stuff, does that count?
+555 Gear The kind of freak that doesn't want their tax dollars going to YET ANOTHER government Bailout to Chrysler. They've already had 2 stays of execution, and each time they lost their focus and dived right back into the ground.
Because economy cars were what made Chrysler successful in the 80s and now that they're sinking into the quicksand again they're making cars for Peter Penispump. Mr. Regular doesn't dislike the Hellcat, he dislikes that Chrysler thought this was a good idea.
+555 Gear They make some, they're just shit. Chrysler hasn't designed a decent car that wasn't at least partially derived from a Daimler product in 20 years (1995). That's Mr. Regular's problem (and, realistically, every American taxpayer's problem).
+555 Gear Agree... Liberals will never get it....."who needs 707hp" ? Free market...CHOICE....anyone feels the need for performance...real V8...GAS and burning rubber....if one chooses ...No Green electric plug in Garbage...or those tiny "yes we can" ....3 wheeler ....
Well, yea it makes less on the dyno. Because of drive-train loss. That's how all cars HP are displayed; Engine horsepower. Actually, following the 15 percent rule the engine would be making more than 707. Either way good vid Mr. Reg. I've though it was a over-hyped car anyways.
+Ian Passmore And they'll still be chasing stock Hellcats. For every dollar you spend to mod another car, a Hellcat owner can spend the same dollar and still be far in the lead.
The other day I watched the EVO car of the year video, for some reason, and what struck me most was the actual banality of the beauty on display. During the video one of the drivers said that he recalls getting the COTY issue when he was a kid and just getting sucked into the images. He said they are in the business of conveying that experience. I'm not the one to talk about the print issue of EVO, but their video certainly falls way below the mark. With the gorgeous videography and scenery and a lineup of cars to get the fear of god into you, they themselves yet seem to sadly struggle at making any sense of it all. And the experience is conveyed with nothing but a revolving stream of vapid superlatives, which leaves us feeling none the richer for it. We need writing, good and thoughtful writing in order to get any meaningful perspective. We need English majors and the like in the car world, people who read and understood the classics, those who deal with our attempts to express the seemingly inexpressible, to convey things unconveyable by images or data. So keep doing the good lord's work peeps. Superlative video.
+SlidTossedAccord -Couldn't agree more. Chrysler was so slimy to their shareholders that they tried to disguise the takeover by Daimler as a "Merger of Equals," and when Kerkorian and Iacocca warned shareholders to sell or join with them and then Chryco heads smeared the S out of them. Few years later, when the deal was done and DamnearChrysler went from "most profitable per unit sold" to least, and Daimler had to pay Kerkorian & Iacocca north of $400 million in penalties, seems Cerebus ("Kirk & Lee, Inc") got the last laugh. Never confuse old Mopar with the new company.
Im glad the Hellcat exists. The real American muscle cars are getting extinct. Then again,that's my opinion. Sure u have the Mustang and the camaro ,but the Mustang has gotten to the point where it's on par with the Corvette,because they made the Mustang a sports car. Camaro wise,it's still trying to be the big bad muscle car,but slowly is trying to become an athlete. The Challenger IMO is the last real muscle car still going on. A muscle car should be the big car that u'd take on a long trip through America not because of the MPGs or because it would be practical. It's because it's striking,has a big presence and it's the kind of car that u wouldn't mind beating a bit or getting dirty,because it's supposed to be a rough car. It's that or I just love Vanishing Point too much and have that kind of image of what a Muscle car should be like. So well played from Chrysler for keeping the Challenger truest to it's original form.
+stiliqn007 Mustang's and Camaro were never muscle cars. The Torino and Chevelle were the respective muscle cars, just as the Charger was Chryslers. The Pony cars, the Mustang, Camaro, original Challenger (ish) were all more well rounded cars better designed for driving than dragstrip madness. I will agree the Charger/Challenger is the last Muscle Car, but Ford and Chevy gave up on muscle cars back in the late 70's (Buick GNX not withstanding). They focused on Pony cars after the oil crisis and never looked back. Chrysler didn't get the memo and had to have it's ass bailed out in 1980 and again in 2008.
The era of the muscle and pony cars are dead. I own a 2017 Mustang and I love it. Our American muscle cars are better classified now as sports cars. Which to me is fine, getting us away from that straight line only mentality. They now go fast and turn, both left and right!
sproly b where do you drive where there are no turns. I want to live there. Just driving to work every day I go through 4 switch backs and an elevation change of 3000 feet on a winding road with a 55 mph speed limit.
I'm not going to lie I'm not going to lie I'm not going to lie, I seriously considered buying one of these but at the end of the day a German built sleeper car with a better power-to-weigjt ratio won the bet. still... 600+ hp is mighty attractive
I think it's an age thing. I got my license in 1986, when cars were literally piles of shit. The glorious past of muscle cars made the present even more hurtful. If you'd had told me then that someday, life would be good again and there would be hemis and Challengers again, I wouldn't have believed it. But if you would have told me they would make fucking 10 second 700 horsepower Hemis with stick shifts and blowers, I would have cried with joy. Then if you'd have told me they would be relatively affordable, about the same price as a gussied up pickup truck, I would have kicked you in the dick for being cruel. Of course, if you had told me back then I could watch unlimited free porn on my telephone, I would have given up cars and simply masturbated all day every day.
I love the Hellcat. I hate that Chrysler decided to make the Hellcat with United-States tax money doing the same error that made them bailout two times. Instead of doing a proper econo-car that, a higher percentage of people is going to buy to actually save Chrysler from bailout. And i'm 100% with him. A higher percentage of the population nowadays buy cars with two factors MPG (L/100km) and price(resale value included) The cheapest car that Chrysler sells currently is the Dodge Dart with a starting MSRP at ±17 000$ and has a highway fuel efficiency of 36MPG (±6.3L/100km). A lot of other brands can sell cheaper and do even better, that's where Chrysler lacks, and this is why they will bailout again. Of course there's the Fiat500 ! It's at ±16 000$ it's less economic (34MPG(±7L/100km)) then the Dart AND it's smaller, what's the point, really ? "The United States government’s involvement in the Chrysler bankruptcy cost the U.S. taxpayer $1.3 billion"
This car is basically a prosthetic dick, because anyone who would ever buy this car, or anything like it, obviously needs that level of compensation. In reality, they probably had a really hilarious problem telling their parents that the reason they failed Phys-Ed in middle school, was because they said "No, I'll shower at home". Just a box of pure shame, and penis envy.
I love chrysler for doing all this and yes i do agree they need to make an economic car to hopefully save them but the challenger is beautiful in my opinion and has been my dream car since i was 8
+Mikael K Oh, they won't cost that where you live. They won't cost anything, because you can not has. The Supercharger doesn't meet EU pedestrian impact regs.
+Marcello Penk-Masucci it's because Chrysler and Fiat are one company called FCA, beside that, don't ask me about badges, marketing solutions or whatever they do to names or models in between the two continents because I have NO idea on how that works. I'm just sure that in most european countries you can buy anything by Dodge since a lot of years ago. Here in italy we even had ads on tv for the 2006 Dodge Nitro.
+Skylar Garrett Not the point at all. He was just saying that it's easy to make a lot of horsepower these days. Heck it's easier to make a reliable muscle car with big power as well. Yes you can point to that one but that's not the case for all. If power were the gauge for all production cars than Mercedes and Bugatti would be the undisputed kings. Both make the cars with the biggest numbers. Do you think of them that way? Not unless you are Jeremy Clarkson.
I thought it was making in the 600s when it got on the dyno. And it's cheap and easy to make an LS/LQ reliable, even turbocharged/supercharged. GM did it themselves with the zr1. not rocket science. and you don't need zr1 money. The point is that if you want a 700 hp pos, there is no reason to pay the 70odd grand for a hellcat or worse, a charger. Don't get me wrong, the Charger is the best rental car ever conceived, but I wouldn't want to own one, and certainly not one with 700hp...
+daybreaK I thought the same too. But in his defence it was a teething problem. Fuel starvation issue will be fixed. Piston will be replaced. Maybe the bearings. Then it will make reliable power.
While I agree with all the points in the video, I will say this. The hellcat in 2024, now on its way out, has become a staple in car culture. It went from an attempt with dodge to appeal back to the classic muscle cars of old and revive muscle car culture to now being the symbol for take overs and felony evasion with a side of drug possession with the intent to distribute. Regardless, the desire to own one has never left me as it represents the pinnacle of the muscle car. The challenger, and subsequently the charger, have stayed true to what makes a muscle car a muscle car, while the mustang and camaro diverged and went more into the sports car category. To classify in my eyes as a muscle car, it takes more than just "have big V8 motor and be American." Muscle cars had certain stylized lines to them that made them seem bigger than life, at their core, they are not supposed to be track cars, they are supposed to be "how can we go as fast as we can in a straight line at a drag strip or on a deserted road for as cheap as possible." Suspension, weight loss, even brakes are an afterthought for these cars. The challenger and charger exemplify this. How many cars do you know that can go 0-60 in 3 seconds that are this cheap? What comes to bite these cars are a combination of mopar quality control, which has been a thing for decades, and the modern owners of them. I looked today at charger hellcats just for kicks as I do want to pick one up eventually as the hellcat is a dream car of mine (first it was the challenger, but the charger is far more practical for me these days). The average price of these cars, even the ones as far back as 2016 was still 45-50k, which says something about the value these retain. The problem was I could find seldom one that didn't have an accident reported on the title because people keep wrecking these things for driving like idiots. I am honestly saddened by it. The challenger and charger had to come to an end in production because they had been running for so long on one generation, but also because of the massive emissions hits that Chrysler was taking by keeping these in production. The EPA comes for us all in this ever green enforced world. Soon will be gone the days of the V8s rumbling in our streets, replaced by vacuum cleaner EV noises (or silence), and the soft putter of little inline 4 cars. Only one still building the V8 is Ford, but they too will pass. There is a reason that this car has been hanging over my desk since I was 14. I still want one.
wait, isn't mr regular constantly complaining about the economization of modern cars? shouldn't he be celebrating chrysler NOT making a numb gutless shitbox with no engagement or distinguishing features?
+Ryukachoo He's saying that Dodge/Chrysler only makes numb, gutless shitboxes...and things like Hellcat. They don't make economy cars that people want to buy and can afford.
+Ryukachoo The problem is that Chrysler can't make a not hellcat. They have nothing that the average consumer wants to buy, unlike Ford which found the perfect balance.
+Ryukachoo Chrysler does make a good economy car with character, the only problem is that it's called a Fiat...Or do we blame Fiat for Chrysler's stupidity? It gets so hard to keep track...
+McJims There's a SuperSnake car that makes 800 or so and it's still slow with just a 12 second quarter mile time because thing absolutely refuses to hook its tires... it's just not sophisticated enough a platform for anything over 550hp.
Dodge is a division of Fiat-Chrysler, and each division has its own niche. Fiat makes the economy cars and subcompacts, Alfa Romeo makes exotic Italian performance and luxury cars, Chrysler is a luxury based main stream manufacturer, and Dodge makes muscle cars. There's no reason for dodge to make an economy car because Fiat already does. It's like complaining about Michael Kors not making cheaper handbags because that's what Americans want.
Your argument makes sense until you realize that the economy car that Fiat sells is the 500. Nobody wants to buy those, not in the U.S. It works fine in europe, but it's too small and Italian to be taken seriously here. The size is a big problem especially when you could, for the same price, buy a Ford Fiesta HATCHBACK which has far more usable space, four doors, better fuel economy (not the ST, although it is very close) and reliability (at least with the stick-shift). The important detail in this economy car requirement is *a sizable amount of people must desire to own one.* FCA makes two real "economy cars": the Dodge Dart, and the Fiat 500. One sucks and the other sucks and is too small for realistic practical use. The main problem is that dodge would much rather advertise/develop its Charger, Challenger, and SUVs, and Fiat has a joke of a reputation in America. The 500's style only really resonates with Moms because it's """""cute""""" while dad has a big ol' trugg. It's also not a good thing to have a joke that goes "What does Fiat stand for: Fix it agian, Tony!" FCA is just lacking the competitiveness versus other brands that do economy better like...everybody esle, except maybe Nissan or Mitsubishi, and at least Nissan tries. Let's just say this, if I wanted a good economy car, I'd buy a Honda, Ford or Toyota, and a product of FCA would be far at the back of the list.
This and current gen Mustangs are the only sports cars I see on the road on a regular basis. Like, I can go out on the road and see Challengers and Mustangs regularly, but way more Challengers than Mustangs. I just find it striking that it's the most actually retro looking "retro-inspired" car I've ever seen by far.
Ummm, ok, I love this channel, and just about every video you post. I've spent hours watching your videos, and loving every minute of it. So I'm anything but a troll. Honestly, I'm a fan. That being said, that video was confusing. You seem to get what "Muscle Car" is all about, but then hate on it, while at the same time liking it... *shakes head* What?... I know you are a smart guy, so what gives? I know you understand the concept of halo product. So lets take a look at some of your questions... Can Chrysler build a "normal car"? - So lets focus on their Dodge brand sense that is what the Challenger is, and the Chrysler brand is their luxury line. The Dodge line up currently consists of 7 vehicles. Yes, they have the Viper and Hellcat lines, but those are the Halo products. The excitement behind the brand. I'm not going to explain this more, because I know you understand this. So lets ignore the Viper for a minute. That leaves us with 6 vehicles. Challenger, starts at $27k, 19/30 mpg. A great choice if you want something with style and excitement, that can also serve as an everyday driver. Yes, you can get into the higher trim levels like the Hellcat and things will start to get crazy. But that shouldn't slam the entire brand. Charger, starts at $28k, 19/31 mpg. Durango, starts at $30.5k, 18/25h mpg. Journey, starts at $20.7k 19/26 mpg. Caravan, starts at 21.8k, 17/25 mpg. Finally the Dart, starting at $16.5k 28/41 mpg. Doesn't seem like an absurd lineup to me. The Dart starts at $16k, and gets 28 city and 41 on the highway. That's cheaper than the current Corolla and it gets better mileage. This is a very "Normal" car... So is the Journey for that matter, it's cheaper than a RAV4, while competing with the Highlander. What about the Caravan? If this isn't "Normal" then I don't know what is. Boring yes, but normal, very. I hate mini vans! But I'll look anyways! It's $6k cheaper than the Sienna, and they both suck, and you'll hate every minute being in them. Winner, Dodge. You also said that they are "circling the drain again". Umm, did you check sales figures at all? - "FCA US LLC today reported U.S. sales of 185,035 units, an 8 percent increase compared with sales in June 2014 (171,086 units), and the group's best June sales since 2006." - "Challenger sales were up 56 percent in June, the muscle car's fifth sales record this year." Sales numbers agree with me. Chrysler is doing great. Showing double digit increases year over year for many of their models. - "Journey sales were up 32 percent" - "Through the first four months of 2014, Dart sales had tumbled 29% to just 22,098 units. But year-over-year volume increased in May, June July, and August (16%, 12%, 23%, and 22% respectively). The month of May, in fact, marked the Dart’s best-ever performance up to that point with 8644 sales. After a brief September decline, the Dart once again entered a period in which sales increased, rising 32% in the fourth-quarter with plenty of help from November, when 9012 Dart sales marked the nameplate’s best-ever U.S. sales performance." Can't make an economy car Americans what to buy? Are you sure about that? You also mentioned QC, stating that they didn't care about it. How can you really say that? Get into a pre 2010 Dodge and then get into a post 2011. Can you honestly tell me you don't see a HUGE turn around? I'm not saying they are perfect (lmao), far from it, but I also give credit where credit is due. They have made an effort to change their ways that can't be ignored. - "The Challenger earned the top spot in the Edmunds.com 2015 Best Retained Value Awards in the Entry Sports Car category last month, and was best in the Midsize Sporty Car segment in J.D. Power's Initial Quality Study." I don't know dude. That was strange. And Yes, I have a Charger, but that fact doesn't void what I'm saying. The facts speak for themselves. I'm no fan boy for Dodge. This is my first Dodge car ever.
+Paul Anderson I think he's just poking at the excessiveness of the Hellcat package. The Challenger is my favorite of the "pony car" revivals, but "707"hp is a bit absurd to the average Joe. Don't let his opinions hit too close to home.
+Paul Anderson TL;DR - Hellcat is cool but Chrysler vehicles are trash and they really ought to work on that instead of this. But Chrysler knows that the Uncle Sam will never let Chrysler fail, so they don't really give a damn.
Sketchy oh, no not at all. - and I agree, 707 is absurd. But then, it isn't trying to be a regular car by any means. An $80k price tag isn't normal by my budget. lol We could make an argument that they should drop the Viper now that the Hellcat is here, because, you really only need one Halo product. But slamming the hole company because of one purposefully outrageous product, seems unfair. Do we slam GM because it makes the Corvette and Z28? DeftonesFan867 No, Chrysler isn't a global sales leader, but when were they? And more importantly, do we really want them to be? - I mean, do we really need another car company making copies of the latest Accord and Camry? I like that Dodge is a bit different, and that they offer crazy, wild and absurd things. I like that they don't follow the crowd and give us cookie cutter cars like so many others. Normal people will never be able to have an exotic car. Most of us can't afford it. But I would offer that cars like the Challenger, Mustang, Camaro and maybe even the Charger are the exotic cars for us regular car guys. And for that, I'm grateful. :)
+Thomas Nurburgring Yeah. It's slow and over-rated. Yet twits on the internet will insists it's the second coming of christ even though anyone over 6' can't fit into it. Oh, and don't mind the roof leaks. On that note: don't live in cold/rainy locations, aka anywhere outside of cali.
I actually own a '08 NC and it's a joy to drive. It is indeed not fast, but that's not the point of the car... Also, I am over 6' and I fit perfectly and leaks is not a common issue with NCs as far as I know. I am not saying it's the best car ever, but it is fun to drive, reliable and affordable.
+Jeston Aylen Keep in mind that when a car is described as "fast" or "slow", one must provide a context. For example, under the right circumstance a stock NC Miata (167 hp) can be faster than a Bentley Continental Supersports (621 hp). www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-comparison-tests/reviews/a15423/faster-than-a-miata/
The song at the end... What song was that based off? I've heard it a lot and never really knew what it was. Either way- incredible video, really changed how I look at the Hellcat.
If the Jeep is the Toriel of cars, this is the Mettaton. It's big, brash, and there are things that do it better. Yet at the end of the day, people still love it for that very reason.
ever seen how cheap a used Chrysler anything is? dodge isn't known for build quality, or reliability, or cars really... I had a dodge neon. worst car ever. water pump went out, crashed the valves since the timing belt also drives the water pump. $3k later and 20,000 miles later, water pump went out again. I replaced everything with dodge factory parts. I still owed money on the car, so another $2500 later... had to replace the head cause the machine shop couldn't fix it. this time 13k miles later, it ate the water pump. it's a freaking miracle neons ever accrued mileage. mine went to the junk yard with 120k miles onto it. I put over $10k into that stupid car. in the end, I was glad to get the $120 out of it. it also ate tires, the camshaft was retained in place by the camshaft position sensor, which got eaten every 1,000 to 5,000 miles, the body was rusted badly, the light bulbs melted the tail lights and the electrics worked when they felt like it. the alternator died 3 times and the battery would go dead due to a short in the wiring between thr battery and the fuse box. car randomly shut off, or lost headlights, or gauges whenever it felt like it. sometimes hanging on the dash, tugging on the wires to the fuse box, kicking the car or letting it sit overnight fixed it, temporarily. the worst part of it all was the fuel economy. it got 23 city and 21 highway that's to its slushbox 3spd automatic NON-overdrive transmission. I got better gas mileage out of my v-8, city and highway. it's hilarious how cheap 2-3 year old chargers and 300's go for. makes ya wonder why people buy them new. overall, that neon was the first and LAST dodge if ever drive. I wouldn't let a friend park one in my driveway when they came to visit.
+RJ aka LEMental watch his challenger srt8 review. The taillights are not one piece, and the only way to close the trunk is to pull down on the taillights which become slightly out of place over time
+lilsammywasapunkrock Jesus fucking Christ, maybe you should understand that there are such things as headlights that are on the trunk. Its an $60k+ Dodge Challenger, Chrysler probably gives a shit about the car's quality.
Did anyone look past the artistic beauty of this video for one second to notice that it is exactly 7:07 long? This is the attention to detail that other UA-camrs are lacking today, this is what is wrong with UA-cam!
Dude, go to somewhere, where poor people live, and buy a nissan stanza for 200 bucks, maybe less. There are cheap cars everywhere, but we just think about the brand new ones, we are just idiots.
@@makiravila7751 that makes no sense here, why we can not buy a new car every one or one and a half years like people of the sexties? We need more studies for less money.
Great car, please keep building them as long as possible and leave the economy cars to the experts (Europe and Asia). I like the looks of the Charger better than this one though.
I saw the Hellcat as Chrysler's swan song. V8's days are numbered now that the big three have figured out how to make a six banger perform and sound just as good, if not better, than a v8. So they let their Mopar performance division go nuts one last time before moving on to Eco friendly performance technology or closing it down for good (only time will tell). You are right, nobody needs 707hp for daily use, and most non-car people will say it's vulgar and excessive. But for car people we just see it as a refreshing throwback to a time when gas was cents, and auto makers were fudging their car's performance figures to help owners get by insurance premiums. Much like most of today's pop culture, the Hellcat is a rebooted nostalgic throwback to an era where torque was king and nobody cared about miles to the gallon. Great review !
I'm no Chrysler expert, but from what I've gathered the Challenger and Charger share a platform underneath. So basically it's a 2 door car sitting on that gigantic 4 door Charger platform. Throw in a huge V8 and Dodge Ram size body panels and voilà, another 4,000 pound hunk of Chrysler horse shit.
No one, NO ONE, is "clamoring" for economy cars. Consumers want trucks, SUVs and CUVs. FCA isn't building domestic economy cars because they don't sell.
+Charles Flaherty 100% agree. IF people wanted the economy cars so bad, Chrysler wouldn't be focusing the Dodge brand the way they do. On that side note, the whole Fiat Chrysler brand is just that, focused. They have one brand focused on the smaller econo cars - Fiat, one for offroad - Jeep, one on luxury - Chrysler, one on trucks - Ram, and one on higher performance/more fun - Dodge. Why? Because not having this focus and having half a dozen of the same cars all rebadged for their different brands is what was killing the company in the first place! Their current strategy is bringing in the sales like never before, so the whole Circling the drain crap Mr.Regular is saying is currently going on is just getting pulled out of his ass, and has no basis in reality.
+Charles Flaherty Agreed. Before Chrysler sold out, it said it wanted the Dodge Division to be the performance arm of Chrysler. FCA said Ok we'll run with that. The Dart is a huge disaster here in the States, whereas all Challenger models sell well. Here in Chicago, 1 must wait for Scat Pack, SRT and yes Hellcats to be built and delivered, and the cost is extreme. But various versions of the R/T's and standard models can be had n/p. All day long 1 can get any Dart model they want. So what is that saying? Who wants an economy car based machine, when 1 can simply wait for a hyper Challenger that gets no real mileage, is harder to park and see out of, and is a cop magnet? WE do! I've owned several throw away K cars of the 80's and even the vid mentioned Neon.. Complete crap every one. Now I own a 09 Challenger R/T 6 speed.. and it's FUN. It's the kind of car the makes 1 want to go on a road trip; have the Sunday drive. Can anyone say that about an economy car? Phone call.. " Hi, I'm in my Aries... I'm in traffic.. What's for dinner?"
5 years later, Yeah this video didnt age well at all dude. "Isnt making you money" it obviously is haha, hence the demon, all the redeyes, the scats packs, and now a hellcat powered durango? Its done more then make chrysler money, its catapulted them to the top of american sports cars. You probably felt "edgy" shitting on this car not bringing in any $$$ five years ago, yet you ate those words. Lmao
Last week I watched that new episode of The Grand Tour, where they were in Italy and Hammond had one of these, the episode was hilarious and the car awesome, I had to come back and rewatch this review ... :D
"This happens when you let a kid make his own dinner..." Best definition of all the challengers, hellcats and demons.
Strategically ending the video at 7:07. Nice.
Makadimo no you wasn't
Haha I noticed it right away.
I was gonna say the same lok
Great catch!
I just gave the 707th Like ... if anyone gives a shit.
Chrysler watches this video:
"we should make an economy car"
"nah fck it make the demon"
“Hey we’re one bad day from going under maybe we should build something for the everyman-“
“HORSEPOWER HORSEPOWER TORQUE TORQUE! MY DICK IS FULL MAST! I PASS A KIDNEY STONE EVERY TIME I NUT!!! 707 HORSepower… oh no… Marie… I came on the carpet again…”
Funny thing is that in the video hellcat is compared to Bill Goldberg and later Goldberg (in that stone cold podcast i think) stated that his dream car is demon.
5 years later and the hellcat is still proving that Barely Operational was wrong. Sales are still up, price still appreciating, etc.
7 years later and the Hellcat is holding its value like never before
Just realized the Hellacat is something Australians would build
I'm pretty sure we already did
what
+Apex Attitude What? M8 are you a Victorian or something? Not every state is a police state when it comes to cars/speeding like Victoria is ya know.
And Op, we do HSV's with Walkinshaw stuff, does that count?
+beeza copper hsv faster version of your standard Holden, walkinshaw faster faster version ;)
Guys I understand I was tired sorry.
PS: I live in the nanny state all you gotta do is be inconspicuous #sleepers
What kind of freak dreams of non-existent Chrysler economy cars when reviewing a supercharged Challenger? Stay weird, Mr. Regular.
All that REALLY needs to be said about the Challenger Hellcat is that Jim Skelton drives a bright green one. That's an auto.
+555 Gear The kind of freak that doesn't want their tax dollars going to YET ANOTHER government Bailout to Chrysler. They've already had 2 stays of execution, and each time they lost their focus and dived right back into the ground.
Because economy cars were what made Chrysler successful in the 80s and now that they're sinking into the quicksand again they're making cars for Peter Penispump. Mr. Regular doesn't dislike the Hellcat, he dislikes that Chrysler thought this was a good idea.
+555 Gear They make some, they're just shit. Chrysler hasn't designed a decent car that wasn't at least partially derived from a Daimler product in 20 years (1995). That's Mr. Regular's problem (and, realistically, every American taxpayer's problem).
+555 Gear
Agree...
Liberals will never get it....."who needs 707hp" ?
Free market...CHOICE....anyone feels the need for performance...real V8...GAS and burning rubber....if one chooses ...No Green electric plug in Garbage...or those tiny "yes we can" ....3 wheeler ....
Now I have good excuse to be late for work.
"Why were you late?" "Mr. Regular uploaded a Hellcat review. That's why"
it's 1:56 am where I live...
+linglingjr Good for you, lots of other people live in lots of other time zones.
+Jack Begley People work different shift's too.
+Jason You mean Jewish and French, right?
Jason look who owns the companies hero.
The Challenger is like that friend that you don't really have that much in common with, but is somehow always fun to hang with in spite of it.
Was this a hellcat review? Or a Chrysler review?
The Hellcat represents Chrysler. So yes.
It's a mystery now
Jake Campbell Dodge is Chrysler.
It's the fiat hellcat. But I'd prefer the jeep demon.
Both
The hellcat NEEDS as much tire as the corvette. Seriously look at those tires, too skinny even for 500 wheel.
Cool story bro
rain Drop. drop top. low tread life and I can't stop.
The tires actually work fine for it. It has amazing TCS in the event of rain and what-not.
275s are not too skinny for 500 whp
@@elitewarrior0076 I have 275 on my V6 challenger and there perfect for 300 hp
we farted at the same time
Jinx!
Same
one was a queef
HAHAHAHA
Video length, 7:07. HP, 707. I GET IT :D
+Garth S Video should've been 6:25 long.
+mazdarati2 most manufacturers rate their HP at motor not the wheels most hell cats have above 707 crank hp
+robm425 Exactly. A 625 at the wheels is only a 12% drive train loss over their quoted 707 at the crank, which isn't crazy at all.
Just thinking the same thing.
+Dill709 RWD Auto is normally ~16%.
Well, yea it makes less on the dyno. Because of drive-train loss. That's how all cars HP are displayed; Engine horsepower. Actually, following the 15 percent rule the engine would be making more than 707. Either way good vid Mr. Reg. I've though it was a over-hyped car anyways.
+Do It With Dan Cammed Camaros are where it's at anyways.
+Ian Passmore And they'll still be chasing stock Hellcats. For every dollar you spend to mod another car, a Hellcat owner can spend the same dollar and still be far in the lead.
+Do It With Dan Hellcat vs. GROM 1/4 drag. Do it. Just for the lolz
+Do It With Dan do it with dickkheaddd! dumbasses have no idea about drive train loss. Happy you told em!
+Tanner Dark it's people like you that make me shake my head
Been waiting for this one ;) By the way, I'll have you know Mr. Regular, I don't just do arms and chest when I take my Hellcat to the gym...
Ooooh old Mike comments are always fun to see
hey its mike
DICK LIFTS
@@hansy3 PeePee Presses?
u fell off
The video is 7:07 minutes long
L0L = 707
+Ben L I think 7.07 is a reference to the HP that the car has
Yeah I got that, it's also kinda the mirror of LOL which I thought was interesting. Like LOL good luck handling the 707 horsepower on this thing! :p
Ben it does go straight. Just don't try to corner. :D
That's what I thought, I'd rather have a car that has good power and great handling.
"Dumber than a bag of hammers."
PushingUpRoses Hi PUR~ Didn't know you were a fan of this guy too :0
Didn't expect you to be that into cars. LGR recommended some old pc games of the racing genre or were you always a secret petrolhead since little?
Oldest and most overused, also.
:)
damn, you just completely changed the way i look at the hellcat
+Levvy Every RCR changes the way I look at a car.
mortbif right? haha
Why?! Have your own opinion because this tool is just showing his
+Levvy you are every marketers nightmare
+Adam Nelson oooh someone pissed in your cornflakes
The other day I watched the EVO car of the year video, for some reason, and what struck me most was the actual banality of the beauty on display. During the video one of the drivers said that he recalls getting the COTY issue when he was a kid and just getting sucked into the images. He said they are in the business of conveying that experience. I'm not the one to talk about the print issue of EVO, but their video certainly falls way below the mark. With the gorgeous videography and scenery and a lineup of cars to get the fear of god into you, they themselves yet seem to sadly struggle at making any sense of it all. And the experience is conveyed with nothing but a revolving stream of vapid superlatives, which leaves us feeling none the richer for it. We need writing, good and thoughtful writing in order to get any meaningful perspective. We need English majors and the like in the car world, people who read and understood the classics, those who deal with our attempts to express the seemingly inexpressible, to convey things unconveyable by images or data.
So keep doing the good lord's work peeps. Superlative video.
+gavranarh Thank you!
+SlidTossedAccord -Couldn't agree more. Chrysler was so slimy to their shareholders that they tried to disguise the takeover by Daimler as a "Merger of Equals," and when Kerkorian and Iacocca warned shareholders to sell or join with them and then Chryco heads smeared the S out of them. Few years later, when the deal was done and DamnearChrysler went from "most profitable per unit sold" to least, and Daimler had to pay Kerkorian & Iacocca north of $400 million in penalties, seems Cerebus ("Kirk & Lee, Inc") got the last laugh. Never confuse old Mopar with the new company.
That was beautiful... I wana take it and repeatedly dump the clutch in a parking lot! Cause fun as long as tires are free
"The hellcat is what happens when you let kids make their own dinner." Brilliant!
Is this Matt Farah's million mile Lexus
+Hugh Jass Yes.
+Hugh Jass HAHA! What a great joke! Never gets old...
+Hugh Jass Yep
+Hugh Jass I was fucking waiting for it!
+Hugh Jass I love generic overused joke
7 years later Hellcat is a huge name
Im glad the Hellcat exists. The real American muscle cars are getting extinct. Then again,that's my opinion. Sure u have the Mustang and the camaro ,but the Mustang has gotten to the point where it's on par with the Corvette,because they made the Mustang a sports car. Camaro wise,it's still trying to be the big bad muscle car,but slowly is trying to become an athlete. The Challenger IMO is the last real muscle car still going on. A muscle car should be the big car that u'd take on a long trip through America not because of the MPGs or because it would be practical. It's because it's striking,has a big presence and it's the kind of car that u wouldn't mind beating a bit or getting dirty,because it's supposed to be a rough car. It's that or I just love Vanishing Point too much and have that kind of image of what a Muscle car should be like. So well played from Chrysler for keeping the Challenger truest to it's original form.
+stiliqn007 Mustang's and Camaro were never muscle cars. The Torino and Chevelle were the respective muscle cars, just as the Charger was Chryslers.
The Pony cars, the Mustang, Camaro, original Challenger (ish) were all more well rounded cars better designed for driving than dragstrip madness.
I will agree the Charger/Challenger is the last Muscle Car, but Ford and Chevy gave up on muscle cars back in the late 70's (Buick GNX not withstanding). They focused on Pony cars after the oil crisis and never looked back. Chrysler didn't get the memo and had to have it's ass bailed out in 1980 and again in 2008.
thank you for your comment 100% right. everything looks the same made outta plastic and fiberglass.
The era of the muscle and pony cars are dead. I own a 2017 Mustang and I love it. Our American muscle cars are better classified now as sports cars. Which to me is fine, getting us away from that straight line only mentality. They now go fast and turn, both left and right!
sproly b where do you drive where there are no turns. I want to live there. Just driving to work every day I go through 4 switch backs and an elevation change of 3000 feet on a winding road with a 55 mph speed limit.
mr regular.... thank u for doing this review. u are the leader for doing the reviews of cars americans can and WANT to buy
+DeltaOps3 Thanks!
+RegularCars Me too thanks.
+Jason Balazs m-m-me too th-th-thanks
@@RegularCars Mr. Regular, you were wrong about the Hellcat. People still want them 7 years after they came out
"I'm inside Charles Bronson!!!!!" I spit my coffee out
I'm not going to lie
I'm not going to lie
I'm not going to lie, I seriously considered buying one of these
but at the end of the day a German built sleeper car with a better power-to-weigjt ratio won the bet.
still... 600+ hp is mighty attractive
+Armoured Skeptic dude stop being a skeptic and accept my god
lol satire
+Armoured Skeptic so what did you buy ?
+Armoured Skeptic So how does that Audi handle in the corners? If that's your kinda thing.
+TheOneFreeman98 That was my guess too.
Lemme guess...you got an M5?
"The Hellcat is what happens when you let a kid make his own dinner"
Yup. My grandma let me eat a whole jar of maraschino cherries when she was watching me in the 1980s. Because love. RIP Grandma.
I think it's an age thing. I got my license in 1986, when cars were literally piles of shit. The glorious past of muscle cars made the present even more hurtful. If you'd had told me then that someday, life would be good again and there would be hemis and Challengers again, I wouldn't have believed it. But if you would have told me they would make fucking 10 second 700 horsepower Hemis with stick shifts and blowers, I would have cried with joy. Then if you'd have told me they would be relatively affordable, about the same price as a gussied up pickup truck, I would have kicked you in the dick for being cruel.
Of course, if you had told me back then I could watch unlimited free porn on my telephone, I would have given up cars and simply masturbated all day every day.
"It's like driving an action movie..." very accurate description!
While inside Charles Bronson, did you have the common courtesy give him a reach around?
Funny how the review is 7:07 in length. 707hp?
+aviator158 It should have been closer to 6:25 in length.
+Koshunae just like back in the 70's they only talk about crank power, rear wheel numbers are never spoken of in advertising
+Koshunae didn't he say 625 to the wheels, Based on dyno calculations of drivetrain loss it is around 720 hp at the crank....
+peterbiltxr379 It's just like always you mean. Power has always been measured at the crank. Be it gross ratings (pre 72) or net ratings.
+aviator158 Illuminati confirmed
RCR: the provider of revolting insults and encouraging compliments all in one sentence.
"What didn't the wife get in the divorce?"
Me: "My soul."
The video length is 7:07. The horsepower of the Hellcat is 707. Coincidence? I think NOT!
you have to really love this Dodge E-Class with the broke supercharger bearings got to love that FCA/Dodge craftsmanship
Mr. Regular, if I could I would give you a great big hug right now for this.
I love the Hellcat.
I hate that Chrysler decided to make the Hellcat with United-States tax money doing the same error that made them bailout two times. Instead of doing a proper econo-car that, a higher percentage of people is going to buy to actually save Chrysler from bailout.
And i'm 100% with him. A higher percentage of the population nowadays buy cars with two factors MPG (L/100km) and price(resale value included)
The cheapest car that Chrysler sells currently is the Dodge Dart with a starting MSRP at ±17 000$ and has a highway fuel efficiency of 36MPG (±6.3L/100km). A lot of other brands can sell cheaper and do even better, that's where Chrysler lacks, and this is why they will bailout again.
Of course there's the Fiat500 ! It's at ±16 000$ it's less economic (34MPG(±7L/100km)) then the Dart AND it's smaller, what's the point, really ?
"The United States government’s involvement in the Chrysler bankruptcy cost the U.S. taxpayer $1.3 billion"
This car is basically a prosthetic dick, because anyone who would ever buy this car, or anything like it, obviously needs that level of compensation. In reality, they probably had a really hilarious problem telling their parents that the reason they failed Phys-Ed in middle school, was because they said "No, I'll shower at home". Just a box of pure shame, and penis envy.
I love chrysler for doing all this and yes i do agree they need to make an economic car to hopefully save them but the challenger is beautiful in my opinion and has been my dream car since i was 8
IM INSIDE CHARLES BRONSON.
And to think we probably would have never gotten the Hellcat as it came, if Shelby didn’t shove 660 horsepower into a GT500 in 2013.
I'm watching your videos over and over again, and simply can't get enough. Keep doing what you are doing, sir.
The realization when these cost 170k€ where I live.
+Mikael K Oh, they won't cost that where you live.
They won't cost anything, because you can not has. The Supercharger doesn't meet EU pedestrian impact regs.
+Leslie48 sorry but there are hellcats in france www.leboncoin.fr/voitures/822976248.htm?ca=7_s
+Leslie48 lmao that's bs, you can buy hellcats in europe
+PMG That's really new then. Dodges where rebadged as Fiats up until recently, with cars like the fiat freemont.
+Marcello Penk-Masucci it's because Chrysler and Fiat are one company called FCA, beside that, don't ask me about badges, marketing solutions or whatever they do to names or models in between the two continents because I have NO idea on how that works. I'm just sure that in most european countries you can buy anything by Dodge since a lot of years ago. Here in italy we even had ads on tv for the 2006 Dodge Nitro.
don't care what people say. I absolutely love the way this car looks
And here we are in 2022... Challenger is still going strong. I just ordered my 22 Scat WB Shaker. These cars are what cars are supposed to be.
3:17 the “UUHMPH” killed me for some reason
"Muscle cars get a bad rap. Too many people talk crap. Why don't you take the damn bus." I love it.
but the turbo Colorado blew up
+daybreaK Shh, it made 430hp ONCE and cost $15,000, that somehow translates into it being better than a hellcat!
+Skylar Garrett Not the point at all. He was just saying that it's easy to make a lot of horsepower these days. Heck it's easier to make a reliable muscle car with big power as well. Yes you can point to that one but that's not the case for all. If power were the gauge for all production cars than Mercedes and Bugatti would be the undisputed kings. Both make the cars with the biggest numbers. Do you think of them that way? Not unless you are Jeremy Clarkson.
I thought it was making in the 600s when it got on the dyno. And it's cheap and easy to make an LS/LQ reliable, even turbocharged/supercharged. GM did it themselves with the zr1. not rocket science. and you don't need zr1 money. The point is that if you want a 700 hp pos, there is no reason to pay the 70odd grand for a hellcat or worse, a charger. Don't get me wrong, the Charger is the best rental car ever conceived, but I wouldn't want to own one, and certainly not one with 700hp...
+daybreaK I thought the same too. But in his defence it was a teething problem. Fuel starvation issue will be fixed. Piston will be replaced. Maybe the bearings. Then it will make reliable power.
Skylar Garrett made power in the 6's
Hellcat has 707 hp and video is 7:07 long illuminati confirmed
This car is like pure grain alcohol and angry masturbation...........YEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Notice after all this slander, he ends the video with “The kids love it, and I do too.”
While I agree with all the points in the video, I will say this. The hellcat in 2024, now on its way out, has become a staple in car culture. It went from an attempt with dodge to appeal back to the classic muscle cars of old and revive muscle car culture to now being the symbol for take overs and felony evasion with a side of drug possession with the intent to distribute. Regardless, the desire to own one has never left me as it represents the pinnacle of the muscle car. The challenger, and subsequently the charger, have stayed true to what makes a muscle car a muscle car, while the mustang and camaro diverged and went more into the sports car category.
To classify in my eyes as a muscle car, it takes more than just "have big V8 motor and be American." Muscle cars had certain stylized lines to them that made them seem bigger than life, at their core, they are not supposed to be track cars, they are supposed to be "how can we go as fast as we can in a straight line at a drag strip or on a deserted road for as cheap as possible." Suspension, weight loss, even brakes are an afterthought for these cars. The challenger and charger exemplify this. How many cars do you know that can go 0-60 in 3 seconds that are this cheap?
What comes to bite these cars are a combination of mopar quality control, which has been a thing for decades, and the modern owners of them. I looked today at charger hellcats just for kicks as I do want to pick one up eventually as the hellcat is a dream car of mine (first it was the challenger, but the charger is far more practical for me these days). The average price of these cars, even the ones as far back as 2016 was still 45-50k, which says something about the value these retain. The problem was I could find seldom one that didn't have an accident reported on the title because people keep wrecking these things for driving like idiots. I am honestly saddened by it.
The challenger and charger had to come to an end in production because they had been running for so long on one generation, but also because of the massive emissions hits that Chrysler was taking by keeping these in production. The EPA comes for us all in this ever green enforced world. Soon will be gone the days of the V8s rumbling in our streets, replaced by vacuum cleaner EV noises (or silence), and the soft putter of little inline 4 cars. Only one still building the V8 is Ford, but they too will pass.
There is a reason that this car has been hanging over my desk since I was 14. I still want one.
The boogeyman checks his closet for Chuck Norris,but Chuck Norris checks his closet for Charles Bronson.
+Dario Andrijasevic Charles Bronson checks his closet for Kevin Spacey
+Der Ubersau And Kevin Spacey checks his closet for Gary Busey.
+simpsonfan13 And Gary Busey checks his closet for Gary Busey.
+RoachOverlord /thread
+Der Ubersau no one scares Charles Bronson
wait, isn't mr regular constantly complaining about the economization of modern cars? shouldn't he be celebrating chrysler NOT making a numb gutless shitbox with no engagement or distinguishing features?
+Ryukachoo we all love muscle cars... but americans need cheap economy cars that they WANT to buy.
+Ryukachoo He's saying that Dodge/Chrysler only makes numb, gutless shitboxes...and things like Hellcat. They don't make economy cars that people want to buy and can afford.
+Ryukachoo The problem is that Chrysler can't make a not hellcat. They have nothing that the average consumer wants to buy, unlike Ford which found the perfect balance.
+Ryukachoo Chrysler does make a good economy car with character, the only problem is that it's called a Fiat...Or do we blame Fiat for Chrysler's stupidity? It gets so hard to keep track...
+Corkoth55 They have Hondas for that.
i hope ford makes a 1000hp mustang thats a flatplane with twin turbos and testosterone injected
+McJims No!....... just no.
tehe
+McJims Yes!...... just yes.
Well I mean....they did make a 1000hp mustang, it was one of the Supersnake packages
+McJims There's a SuperSnake car that makes 800 or so and it's still slow with just a 12 second quarter mile time because thing absolutely refuses to hook its tires... it's just not sophisticated enough a platform for anything over 550hp.
Just came across this channel and this dude is hilarious. Hope you get more subscribers because people needa know your genius.
Another brilliant review. Keep up the good fight. Your courageous, honest observations are often spot on and refreshing.
5:12 seems like a very dated statement in 2021. People eat these things up.
It's funny he calls it the "Goldberg" of cars. I have seen interviews with Bill Goldberg. Guess what he is sitting infront of during the interview?
"Dumber than a bag of hammers". Love the figurative language, the imagery, the similes.
“The hellcat is what happens when you let a kid make his own dinner.” effing epic.
First video of yours I've seen and I'm thoroughly entertained, thanks for sharing!
Dodge is a division of Fiat-Chrysler, and each division has its own niche. Fiat makes the economy cars and subcompacts, Alfa Romeo makes exotic Italian performance and luxury cars, Chrysler is a luxury based main stream manufacturer, and Dodge makes muscle cars. There's no reason for dodge to make an economy car because Fiat already does. It's like complaining about Michael Kors not making cheaper handbags because that's what Americans want.
Your argument makes sense until you realize that the economy car that Fiat sells is the 500. Nobody wants to buy those, not in the U.S. It works fine in europe, but it's too small and Italian to be taken seriously here. The size is a big problem especially when you could, for the same price, buy a
Ford Fiesta HATCHBACK which has far more usable space, four doors, better fuel economy (not the ST, although it is very close) and reliability (at least with the stick-shift).
The important detail in this economy car requirement is *a sizable amount of people must desire to own one.* FCA makes two real "economy cars": the Dodge Dart, and the Fiat 500. One sucks and the other sucks and is too small for realistic practical use. The main problem is that dodge would much rather advertise/develop its Charger, Challenger, and SUVs, and Fiat has a joke of a reputation in America. The 500's style only really resonates with Moms because it's """""cute""""" while dad has a big ol' trugg. It's also not a good thing to have a joke that goes "What does Fiat stand for: Fix it agian, Tony!"
FCA is just lacking the competitiveness versus other brands that do economy better like...everybody esle, except maybe Nissan or Mitsubishi, and at least Nissan tries. Let's just say this, if I wanted a good economy car, I'd buy a Honda, Ford or Toyota, and a product of FCA would be far at the back of the list.
This is the Titan X of cars.
It might not be the highest in the horsepower list, but for the price it definitely is
This and current gen Mustangs are the only sports cars I see on the road on a regular basis. Like, I can go out on the road and see Challengers and Mustangs regularly, but way more Challengers than Mustangs.
I just find it striking that it's the most actually retro looking "retro-inspired" car I've ever seen by far.
That Golberg analogy was perfect. Kudos to you sir.
Fitting that Goldberg owns a Hellcat too
Even better now that Goldberg is Dodge Santa in the commercials.
And Goldberg was a guest on Grand Tour with Paris Hilton
Ummm,
ok, I love this channel, and just about every video you post. I've spent hours watching your videos, and loving every minute of it. So I'm anything but a troll. Honestly, I'm a fan.
That being said, that video was confusing. You seem to get what "Muscle Car" is all about, but then hate on it, while at the same time liking it... *shakes head* What?...
I know you are a smart guy, so what gives? I know you understand the concept of halo product. So lets take a look at some of your questions... Can Chrysler build a "normal car"? - So lets focus on their Dodge brand sense that is what the Challenger is, and the Chrysler brand is their luxury line. The Dodge line up currently consists of 7 vehicles. Yes, they have the Viper and Hellcat lines, but those are the Halo products. The excitement behind the brand. I'm not going to explain this more, because I know you understand this. So lets ignore the Viper for a minute. That leaves us with 6 vehicles. Challenger, starts at $27k, 19/30 mpg. A great choice if you want something with style and excitement, that can also serve as an everyday driver. Yes, you can get into the higher trim levels like the Hellcat and things will start to get crazy. But that shouldn't slam the entire brand. Charger, starts at $28k, 19/31 mpg. Durango, starts at $30.5k, 18/25h mpg. Journey, starts at $20.7k 19/26 mpg. Caravan, starts at 21.8k, 17/25 mpg. Finally the Dart, starting at $16.5k 28/41 mpg.
Doesn't seem like an absurd lineup to me.
The Dart starts at $16k, and gets 28 city and 41 on the highway. That's cheaper than the current Corolla and it gets better mileage. This is a very "Normal" car... So is the Journey for that matter, it's cheaper than a RAV4, while competing with the Highlander. What about the Caravan? If this isn't "Normal" then I don't know what is. Boring yes, but normal, very. I hate mini vans! But I'll look anyways! It's $6k cheaper than the Sienna, and they both suck, and you'll hate every minute being in them. Winner, Dodge.
You also said that they are "circling the drain again". Umm, did you check sales figures at all?
- "FCA US LLC today reported U.S. sales of 185,035 units, an 8 percent increase compared with sales in June 2014 (171,086 units), and the group's best June sales since 2006."
- "Challenger sales were up 56 percent in June, the muscle car's fifth sales record this year."
Sales numbers agree with me. Chrysler is doing great. Showing double digit increases year over year for many of their models.
- "Journey sales were up 32 percent"
- "Through the first four months of 2014, Dart sales had tumbled 29% to just 22,098 units. But year-over-year volume increased in May, June July, and August (16%, 12%, 23%, and 22% respectively). The month of May, in fact, marked the Dart’s best-ever performance up to that point with 8644 sales. After a brief September decline, the Dart once again entered a period in which sales increased, rising 32% in the fourth-quarter with plenty of help from November, when 9012 Dart sales marked the nameplate’s best-ever U.S. sales performance."
Can't make an economy car Americans what to buy? Are you sure about that?
You also mentioned QC, stating that they didn't care about it. How can you really say that? Get into a pre 2010 Dodge and then get into a post 2011. Can you honestly tell me you don't see a HUGE turn around? I'm not saying they are perfect (lmao), far from it, but I also give credit where credit is due. They have made an effort to change their ways that can't be ignored.
- "The Challenger earned the top spot in the Edmunds.com 2015 Best Retained Value Awards in the Entry Sports Car category last month, and was best in the Midsize Sporty Car segment in J.D. Power's Initial Quality Study."
I don't know dude. That was strange. And Yes, I have a Charger, but that fact doesn't void what I'm saying. The facts speak for themselves. I'm no fan boy for Dodge. This is my first Dodge car ever.
The dart doesn't sell very well and he loves the hellcat but FCA isn't a global sales leader. Not even in the top 5.
+Paul Anderson I think he's just poking at the excessiveness of the Hellcat package. The Challenger is my favorite of the "pony car" revivals, but "707"hp is a bit absurd to the average Joe.
Don't let his opinions hit too close to home.
+Paul Anderson TL;DR - Hellcat is cool but Chrysler vehicles are trash and they really ought to work on that instead of this. But Chrysler knows that the Uncle Sam will never let Chrysler fail, so they don't really give a damn.
+thereve They used to be trash.
Sketchy oh, no not at all. - and I agree, 707 is absurd. But then, it isn't trying to be a regular car by any means. An $80k price tag isn't normal by my budget. lol
We could make an argument that they should drop the Viper now that the Hellcat is here, because, you really only need one Halo product. But slamming the hole company because of one purposefully outrageous product, seems unfair. Do we slam GM because it makes the Corvette and Z28?
DeftonesFan867 No, Chrysler isn't a global sales leader, but when were they? And more importantly, do we really want them to be? - I mean, do we really need another car company making copies of the latest Accord and Camry? I like that Dodge is a bit different, and that they offer crazy, wild and absurd things. I like that they don't follow the crowd and give us cookie cutter cars like so many others.
Normal people will never be able to have an exotic car. Most of us can't afford it. But I would offer that cars like the Challenger, Mustang, Camaro and maybe even the Charger are the exotic cars for us regular car guys.
And for that, I'm grateful. :)
Chrysler can't build normal cars, and that is why they are awesome.
Nice review! Could you do one of the Mazda MX-5 NC?
+Thomas Nurburgring
Yeah.
It's slow and over-rated. Yet twits on the internet will insists it's the second coming of christ even though anyone over 6' can't fit into it.
Oh, and don't mind the roof leaks.
On that note: don't live in cold/rainy locations, aka anywhere outside of cali.
I actually own a '08 NC and it's a joy to drive. It is indeed not fast, but that's not the point of the car... Also, I am over 6' and I fit perfectly and leaks is not a common issue with NCs as far as I know. I am not saying it's the best car ever, but it is fun to drive, reliable and affordable.
Thomas Nurburgring Fair enough. I guess I'm just jaded from the car forums I frequent that praise it more than they should.
+Jeston Aylen Yeah, some people think it's the holy grail of cars. I am curious to find out what Regular Car Reviews thinks of it! ;)
+Jeston Aylen Keep in mind that when a car is described as "fast" or "slow", one must provide a context. For example, under the right circumstance a stock NC Miata (167 hp) can be faster than a Bentley Continental Supersports (621 hp). www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-comparison-tests/reviews/a15423/faster-than-a-miata/
This is the quality content I look for.
I've watched this over and over. This maybe one of the funniest things I've ever heard.
This didn't age well
The song at the end... What song was that based off? I've heard it a lot and never really knew what it was.
Either way- incredible video, really changed how I look at the Hellcat.
+Cy Burkhart Vance Joy - Riptide
Atahan Özaydın Thank you!
+Cy Burkhart No problem!
+Cy Burkhart Vance Joy - Riptide
Riptide
The video is 7:07 minutes long and the hell cat has 707 hp
Seeing you totally rip on the Hellcat makes me feel better about what you thought of my first car, the Del Sol.
So glad you reviewed a manual one!
If the Jeep is the Toriel of cars, this is the Mettaton. It's big, brash, and there are things that do it better. Yet at the end of the day, people still love it for that very reason.
+Chris Groff Is that some kinda Pokey Mans reference!?
tough to say the colorado is reliable when sloppy mechanics just blew the engine on it
Couldn't even get the boot & rear lights to line up? 0:14
ever seen how cheap a used Chrysler anything is? dodge isn't known for build quality, or reliability, or cars really... I had a dodge neon. worst car ever. water pump went out, crashed the valves since the timing belt also drives the water pump. $3k later and 20,000 miles later, water pump went out again. I replaced everything with dodge factory parts. I still owed money on the car, so another $2500 later... had to replace the head cause the machine shop couldn't fix it. this time 13k miles later, it ate the water pump. it's a freaking miracle neons ever accrued mileage. mine went to the junk yard with 120k miles onto it. I put over $10k into that stupid car. in the end, I was glad to get the $120 out of it.
it also ate tires, the camshaft was retained in place by the camshaft position sensor, which got eaten every 1,000 to 5,000 miles, the body was rusted badly, the light bulbs melted the tail lights and the electrics worked when they felt like it. the alternator died 3 times and the battery would go dead due to a short in the wiring between thr battery and the fuse box. car randomly shut off, or lost headlights, or gauges whenever it felt like it. sometimes hanging on the dash, tugging on the wires to the fuse box, kicking the car or letting it sit overnight fixed it, temporarily.
the worst part of it all was the fuel economy. it got 23 city and 21 highway that's to its slushbox 3spd automatic NON-overdrive transmission. I got better gas mileage out of my v-8, city and highway.
it's hilarious how cheap 2-3 year old chargers and 300's go for. makes ya wonder why people buy them new. overall, that neon was the first and LAST dodge if ever drive. I wouldn't let a friend park one in my driveway when they came to visit.
+ARGM The trunk is slightly popped, this is pretty evident to anyone with a clue.
+RJ aka LEMental watch his challenger srt8 review. The taillights are not one piece, and the only way to close the trunk is to pull down on the taillights which become slightly out of place over time
+lilsammywasapunkrock I parted with my 01 neon at 211,000 miles. Never had to do any work to it aside from routine scheduled maintenance.
+lilsammywasapunkrock Jesus fucking Christ, maybe you should understand that there are such things as headlights that are on the trunk. Its an $60k+ Dodge Challenger, Chrysler probably gives a shit about the car's quality.
RCR's assessment of FCA did NOT age well.
Boy did these become the most important cars on the road quickly.
wait wait wait wait wait.....wait. no fog lights?
Punk Nation who need fog lights when you've got 707hp!!
Grey Hellcat No! Muh fogs. DEALBREAKER I SAY
Had to get rid of them to allow more air flow
7:07 mins long, I applaud you
Well the hellcat is not the most powerful muscle car anymore the demon is lol
everything you have said in this video is exactly why i love this car and yet i never thought about it that way.
Did anyone look past the artistic beauty of this video for one second to notice that it is exactly 7:07 long? This is the attention to detail that other UA-camrs are lacking today, this is what is wrong with UA-cam!
I want an AWD Dart with 200+ reliable, economical hp.
People can barely afford to drive anything these days. I swear society is not progressing. We are going backwards.
Dude, go to somewhere, where poor people live, and buy a nissan stanza for 200 bucks, maybe less. There are cheap cars everywhere, but we just think about the brand new ones, we are just idiots.
@@makiravila7751 that makes no sense here, why we can not buy a new car every one or one and a half years like people of the sexties? We need more studies for less money.
Great car, please keep building them as long as possible and leave the economy cars to the experts (Europe and Asia). I like the looks of the Charger better than this one though.
I saw the Hellcat as Chrysler's swan song. V8's days are numbered now that the big three have figured out how to make a six banger perform and sound just as good, if not better, than a v8. So they let their Mopar performance division go nuts one last time before moving on to Eco friendly performance technology or closing it down for good (only time will tell).
You are right, nobody needs 707hp for daily use, and most non-car people will say it's vulgar and excessive. But for car people we just see it as a refreshing throwback to a time when gas was cents, and auto makers were fudging their car's performance figures to help owners get by insurance premiums. Much like most of today's pop culture, the Hellcat is a rebooted nostalgic throwback to an era where torque was king and nobody cared about miles to the gallon.
Great review !
The Acura NSX is Daniel Bryan and the Hellcat is Goldberg. Please keep up the wrestling references, they make my day.
Why is is so freaking heavy again? I can't get a straight answer from anyone. Imagine if it was a thousand pounds lighter.
I'm no Chrysler expert, but from what I've gathered the Challenger and Charger share a platform underneath. So basically it's a 2 door car sitting on that gigantic 4 door Charger platform. Throw in a huge V8 and Dodge Ram size body panels and voilà, another 4,000 pound hunk of Chrysler horse shit.
Theyre based on Mercedes E class platform from the 90s. Theres your answer
lol "dumber than a bag of hammers"
+420apache657 "I'm inside Charles Bronson"
+420apache657 Meanwhile, you have to replace the ECU if you want to tune the car because dodge's encryption is so good.
dumber than a bag of hair.
No one, NO ONE, is "clamoring" for economy cars. Consumers want trucks, SUVs and CUVs. FCA isn't building domestic economy cars because they don't sell.
+Charles Flaherty I believe that Mr. Regular is channeling his inner Lee Iacocca.
This!
+Charles Flaherty 100% agree. IF people wanted the economy cars so bad, Chrysler wouldn't be focusing the Dodge brand the way they do. On that side note, the whole Fiat Chrysler brand is just that, focused. They have one brand focused on the smaller econo cars - Fiat, one for offroad - Jeep, one on luxury - Chrysler, one on trucks - Ram, and one on higher performance/more fun - Dodge. Why? Because not having this focus and having half a dozen of the same cars all rebadged for their different brands is what was killing the company in the first place! Their current strategy is bringing in the sales like never before, so the whole Circling the drain crap Mr.Regular is saying is currently going on is just getting pulled out of his ass, and has no basis in reality.
+Charles Flaherty Agreed. Before Chrysler sold out, it said it wanted the Dodge Division to be the performance arm of Chrysler. FCA said Ok we'll run with that. The Dart is a huge disaster here in the States, whereas all Challenger models sell well. Here in Chicago, 1 must wait for Scat Pack, SRT and yes Hellcats to be built and delivered, and the cost is extreme. But various versions of the R/T's and standard models can be had n/p. All day long 1 can get any Dart model they want. So what is that saying? Who wants an economy car based machine, when 1 can simply wait for a hyper Challenger that gets no real mileage, is harder to park and see out of, and is a cop magnet? WE do! I've owned several throw away K cars of the 80's and even the vid mentioned Neon.. Complete crap every one. Now I own a 09 Challenger R/T 6 speed.. and it's FUN. It's the kind of car the makes 1 want to go on a road trip; have the Sunday drive. Can anyone say that about an economy car? Phone call.. " Hi, I'm in my Aries... I'm in traffic.. What's for dinner?"
But people still want to buy a car that will save them money.
hahaha 7 years later and the chally outsells the mustang and the camaro combined!
at the angle the owner has that radar detector,it is serving as a couple-hundred dollar piece of art
5 years later, Yeah this video didnt age well at all dude. "Isnt making you money" it obviously is haha, hence the demon, all the redeyes, the scats packs, and now a hellcat powered durango? Its done more then make chrysler money, its catapulted them to the top of american sports cars. You probably felt "edgy" shitting on this car not bringing in any $$$ five years ago, yet you ate those words. Lmao
Well they've the SRT Demon now :D
Good Lord, the advertising blurb is so cringe-inducing. "Stalking prey?" Ugh.
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Last week I watched that new episode of The Grand Tour, where they were in Italy and Hammond had one of these, the episode was hilarious and the car awesome, I had to come back and rewatch this review ... :D