Why are some able-bodied men choosing not to participate in the labor market?
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When a man realizes he will never own his own home or have his own family he will refuse to break his back so that others can have what he can't.
Well said.
Then he's not working hard enough. I always knew when it was lunchtime on Wednesday, my time card hit 40 hours. Life isn't supposed to be fun or rewarding. Life is simply a Job. Yep, I'm one of those.
Is that when he puts on makeup and a dress? Is that when he calls himself a woman?
Yep you're a typical clueless debt slave 😂@@aliciabrowndocken4660
A man does what needs to be done regardless of how he feels. You sound pathetic.
True. I remember a simple enough job was enough to get you a car, a humble place and a vacation
@@vikroy3777 how many trillions have we printed since then? Let's stop ignoring the main issue
Yup. $36 Trillion in debt is NOT sustainable. WE ARE BROKE!
@@BajatheChickenMan yup, and i just had to stop my self from puking when some Rino gets up on TV and tells me USAID isn't that bad.
Them days are long gone 😞
That was before Reagan
15 years of hard work, savings, investments... fleeced to an ex wife in a 3 year marriage by the stroke of a family law judges pen. 15 years of single mans sacrifices to live a better quality of life - gone. This generation of young men sure have smartened up beyond their predecessors.
Bingo..
Same thing here..
Happy with a couple of acres, few dogs n cats
Suggestion.
Do as my ex did. Put your house up for sale.
Take all the money to your parents in Washington.
You won’t have to pay child support.
I’m saying this because the females today are spoiled lazy brats wanting to be rich and pampered.
They’ve never worked for anything and were given everything.
I raised my 2 kids without child support from a stinking lowlife.
It can go both ways kiddo.
Yep I did pretty good before I met my ex-wife had two houses and nice cars married her had two kids she wiped me out good thing I kept everything I had before I was married it was a big struggle but I got through it I paid $321 a week child support for two children for 22 years try carrying that one with you
Well you should have chosen me. I don't believe in divorce. We in this for life.🤷🏽♀️
@@Igottimetoday45where you attt
He’s right, illegal immigration has been driving wages down since Bush and Clinton cozied up to Mexico with NAFTA.
A race to the bottom, actually.
I am developing the opinion that many people in cable news, from Fox News, Fox Business, to CNN and MSNBC do not have real jobs.
@@ChrisVink-b5b many diversity hires are there simply to please government agencies that hand out lucrative contacts and don't do actual work, just make work.
I have never not blamed Newt Gingrich for forcing Clinton to sign that vile plan into law... de facto treaty law! 😡
Newt Gingrich did this! 😡
Low wages, high prices, the inability to own a decent home, being treated like garbage by ungrateful bosses, all rewarded with little to no retirement saving/benefits.
Golly! Why don’t people line up for that??
All while the huge corporation they work for report record profits year after year.
You about nailed it though some of us were super hard workers where is smart enough to see the writing on the wall they want foreigners they don't pay payroll taxes they're paying less money.
...especially when the previous administration rewarded them BIGLY! Now there's a new Sheriff! Game's over, asswipes! GET A JOB! If you have no marketable skills, get some!
They lazy stop making excuses
Child support alimony
Being unable to buy a home makes it irrelevant to try and succeed. I understand these guys
so, your mommy has to pay for you to live? How about an apartment. You need shelter. Come on!
@@ST-rj8iu
He said that he can see why people might be discouraged
The house my parents bought in 1973 for 35K is currently valued at 900K, with an 18K yearly property tax bill.
When I graduated high school, all you needed was a full time job to afford an appointment of your own. All my nieces went from living at home to living with roommates (and no hope of their own place) to married.
Why do you need to own a home? I'm going to be able to retire at 35 and I don't own a home. You can just rent.
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@@i_like_beer-o2f Why? Because homes are stores of wealth and you're in control.
I own both a home and a condo. There is no comparison. But I can walk to my business
from my condo.
Men are tired of having so much piled onto our shoulders expected to carry everything for everyone with little to no appreciation or return for our efforts
What have you put on your shoulders bro? lol what are you even talking about?
@@xuntouchablex6879 Youre kidding right? Most people have way too much responsibility, and no appreciation for over-doers. No wonder people slowquit/dont feel like working more than the job dictates. And mostly, the pay in many jobs are ridiculous for what many perform
@@Bigboss-xe6lm Want my honest opinion?
I used to think that way. Then I went homeless. My entire mentality changed when that happened. As soon as my mentality went into survival mode, something clicked.
I worked 2 restaurant jobs while sleeping on an outdoor bench. Paid off all my debt and was able to build my credit to then put down a down payment for a studio apartment. That took me 6 months to do.
A year later I’m making 85k a year and am going to be getting a raise by the end of 2025 for 150k a year.
My point is, as soon as my mentality shifted, so did all my excuses for not being able to get what I want.
@@xuntouchablex6879 But all talked about was you! They said carrying the responsibility for others. What part did you miss, you just want to self aggrandize, and tell us, about your story. You don't know what someone else is going through, and with time they'll come out that too. Don't get on here, trying to put people where you are, because you found yourself. They need to find themselves too. Do you pray for others, or do you even have a relationship with God, because if you did, you wouldn't be on here trying to put others down, because they are not you. That's a sucker move!!!
@@Daylight-nu3rt You didn’t get what I said at all then.
Be a victim then and don’t go and improve yourself and your life. That’s you, that isn’t me, so don’t speak for me when talking about men being tired of being used. Only victims are used, I actually wake up and fight for what I want out of my life every day because I understand that the competition right now is easy, you saying these things to me right now proves it.
The more you play victim, the more people like me who don’t give a crap about what’s going on in society and just grind every day will walk all over you. Just saying.
Because we're crapped on them so much they just don't care anymore
54, worked as contractor for 35 years. The more I make, the further the government extends the stick holding the carrot. Always keeping the reward out of reach. I’ve been successful and built a comfortable life, but not as comfortable as it should be due to government taxes, fees, permits, cost of living constantly increasing.
Here in Canada, the largest economy destroyer is the government and their greed to take everything a man works for.
Now I work January- May, make enough to live and that’s it. No point making more only to have government take everything I work for.
I’m not chasing the dangling carrot anymore.
The government can find another slave to keep feeding them their wealth.
Amen same here
Jesus said to have a simple eye for a reason.
@@robmainville2632 ^^ this is what socialism looks like. It robs a man of his hope. Remember this when you're lied to about how Canada is awesome because "free healthcare." This is what it really looks like. Massive, unrelenting, burdensome taxes.
That is why I went from full time to part time. The government just takes it and I am enjoying my days off before I am to old and sick to enjoy life!
Yep I never understood why peoples income are getting taxed instead of what they consume.
I use to work in construction with good pay and worked with heavy machinery. I kept getting laid off and later learned that the companies that laid me off would hire someone illegal who would work for way less and no benefits. I got basically pushed out for cheap labor. In California the illegals get everything for free and work non taxed jobs.
Yep. I saw it firsthand with friends and an in-law during the housing bubble of the early part of this decade. The in law was working for a subcontractor painting company who played by the rules. The general contractor told the owner of the painting company he needed to reduce his price by 35% a square foot ( remember this is when home prices were skyrocketing). No way he could do it by paying legit wages and insurance. He laid off his crew and hired undocumented just to keep his business. He did give all his crew a good severance deal in cash so they could apply for unemployment immediately. My in law went through the same process twice before the bubble burst , his marriage fell apart and he never did recover financially. He ended up living in a a converted shed behind a house. I use to get angry with his sister because she accused him of "giving up" The guy was 45 years old and had worked since he was 17. I helped him out on the side when I could.
That’s probably why California has the highest homeless population in the country. The illegals get subsidized housing and free food and citizens get a tent in the park. 😢
Im in California and you are 100% correct and this is true for all industries
What did young men use to work for, a family and kids, looking at how most men will lose that to divorce if they can even find a woman to marry them, why work, a lone male can survive with very little.
Well said. Lack of purpose will definitely hinder the youths ideology about a 9-5.
Social media is to blame for this as women have become more independent or at least they think they have. I know for a fact it’s definitely made women more accessible to contact and therefore commit an affair.
Poor little incel, not find a girl? Boohoo🤣
That what i have been thinking. Just live in a van and save like I did before I got married again. I wish I stayed single.
😢
Yep..
Lost it ALL in a Lovely Divorce..
Got a Couple of dogs now,,(my family..) watch my spending...it's ok..
No wife, no kids, no incentive. Thank you, feminists, for liberating me.
This exactly.
Eve was made for Adam.
Eve has always wanted more since eating of the apple that led to Adam being thrown from paradise. Then Adam built a world and cities for Eve and now she no longer wants Adam or to reproduce because Adam made her life too easy.
Result Adam - Men are back alone wanting peace.
I didn't have kids so the psyops don't hit as hard
Bingo
The man who saw the tend most of us missed
Absolutely!!
If when working full time you still cannot afford anything, why work?
True.
Because you don't really want to sleep under the freeway overpass.
@@darkgalaxy5548 or live in a van by the river
i spent about a year working 2 full time jobs and had a mowing gig going on after a year i think i only made 35k which gets you no where in this economy
@@jynkot5542 I average 84 to 120 hours a week. So he won’t get no sympathy out of me. Some days I may work 30 hours straight. No sleep no breaks, but it pays the bills.
I was fired becasue the company was afraid to fire the diversity hires.
Cope harder loser
Or you was just bad at your job.. was the manager a white middle aged man by any chance? 🤣🤣
@@John-op4so Lol cope harder loser
My ex-employer in MA does not give a F about Diversity crap. They fired all employee that they believe hiring under diversity program first!
@@johnmadow5331 Lol neither does the original commenter’s. He just got fired because he sucks at his job/and or nobody liked him and is now looking for someone to blame like every other loser with 0 self awareness or accountability
Don't forget about the ACTIVE DISCRIMINATION.
Against white people!
Because we get screwed over can’t afford to buy a house, pay dosent match inflation
I know a few young men who work only part-time. I asked these guys why not go for this full-time position? The answer? "I want to enjoy my time now." "I live in my parents home, don't have to pay rent, why should I?" "That's too much for me."
@@user-bm3cs1cr6t Perfect opportunity to make lots of money while still under your parents roof... basically a free pass to get ahead of the average. Too many people underestimate such blessings.
That’s why Trump focused on going to war.. you’ll have employment then🤣 unless you got bone spurs like your commander in chief Bon shitzenpants 👍
I left a skilled healthcare position because the pay hasn’t kept up.
DEI is still very much in effect in the corporate world.
Making an excuse cause you can’t promoted is crazyyyyy
Not it’s not. It’s still white male mediocrity dominating everything top to bottom.
@@frivera735 it's no excuse when those who are promoted is done by what their gender is and who they sleep with over merit!
@@frivera735being promoted based on skin color or political ideologies over people who can perform better is crazyyy..
@@frivera735who needs a promotion when you can start your own company under trump? Oh thats right.. you want the illegals to replace everyone because you think that means cheaper things for you..
Divorce rates and child support why work when u can't take care of urself?
Why aren't they asking the same question about women? In particular, why are so many women getting irresponsibly pregnant in order to avoid working?
It's the sexist secret we aren't allowed to talk about.
That has been going on for DECADES!!! Started really happening in the 1960s. Generational WELFARE.
@@QuantumMech_88if yall really think this you just plain hate women and don’t know any goods ones so im guessing mommy issues
@ You can't write a coherent sentence. Intelligence issues .
@@redbluebae4397 What on earth are you on about? It's a perfectly reasonable question to ask, and women aren't above criticism. Telling someone that they have mommy issues for pointing it out just makes you look petty and narrowminded.
It's amazing how that guy was making sense and quickly cut off. It just goes to show they don't care. People want to work but the job market is against you.
I just love when people who are behind a desk and get paid to talk for a living is commenting on the labor force give me a break
They're a bunch of a nepo babies. They reckoning is coming.
Right..!
We All can't be bean counters or pencil pushers...
Those who cant... typically try to exploit those who can.. this is how its done.
Lack of family and a good wife that gave us men purpose.We were made to live in a garden in peace not in this system. Our entire lives have been a series of lies.
Just go to college and you will be set financially yet 95 percent arent.
Save for retirement and inflation by that point my money will be not even be enough to live on.
Jobs people got degress tried to advance and do better so what did companies do raise requirments by pulling the ladder up more.
At some point a human realizes the system is a lie and no longer wants to participate in something that isnt benifical to us. If i had a wife and family id work for them. But asking me to work for myself why im a man i can live on almost nothing?
Yep..bingo..same here...enuff to feed me an my dogs N cats
My first full time job at 18 years old, I figured out where everything was headed. That was 12 years ago.
Worked in the warehouse for UPS ..the pay isn’t enough, became a driver and the hours are 50-60 a week and if you’re not a DEI hire you need to be perfect at the job right away..can’t win 🤷🏻♂️
Move to Europe, make yourself a nice life
isn't UPS unionized? I thought UPS drivers will make 100k a year soon?
@ the warehouse pay was 15/hr and I made it to 17/hr. Driver pay is great but the hours are crap and certain ppl get to work the job on easy mode, they need to be sued.
@@FierceDeityRick $15 and $17 is not real money. They should be paying at LEAST $25 a hour for the work, you can work and McDonalds and make $17 a hour.
I work at ups as well. Full time drivers make about $100k. If you work most other jobs they are part time. So it would be hard to live on that wage alone.
Also, I truly don’t believe UPS has a preference on hires or is more slack with people. They are very strict. So if you suck the will fire you.
Because businesses are always looking for a pool of applicants. As a result, they say they want to hire people, but they don't. They just want applicants that they can reach out to when it suits them. Additionally, a man can't just enter a place of business and ask for work. They have to get online and fill out a form for each and every place. Or, they can use a service like Indeed, which in turn sells your email address to every scam artist in the book.
🎯 Back in the day all these scam employment agencies didn't exist. You walked into the job centre, picked a job you fancied, and they rang the employer directly to arrange the interview for you. In the 1980s, you could just roll up on a site and they said "if you've got your tools, insurance and certificate, you can start Monday". I feel sorry for young people in the job market today.
Don't forget you have to pack a lunch. Forget it.
Since when has the purpose of life become to seek employment?
Just because someone cant find a job that does NOT mean they dont want to work. Someone I know well spent 2 years applying with close to 1000 applications, and almost no call backs from employers. Was an expert in his industry. Had a few interviews during the 2 years which seemed very promising, followed by "we are sorry but the position has been cancelled". Then those employers rinse and repeat the same sh!t as the same jobs get reposted month after month. They were specifically looking for DEI hires. This individual donated 2 years of his life to this corrupt hiring system. Do you want to work a few years for free? I don't think so.
We can't control whether or not we're hired. I have 10 years experience in industrial labor and no matter how much I apply to even the lowliest of positions I don't even get a rejection notice
Who owns the companies you apply to? Millionaire white middle aged men by any chance? 🤣 if only you were a blond female, you could work for Trump’s administration.👍 Maga dei!
Exactly... I know how you feel.
It's easy to speak when you have a job that you feel secure in. Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face (layoff)...Just because someone cant find a job that does NOT mean they dont want to work. Someone I know well spent 2 years applying with close to 1000 applications, and almost no call backs from employers. Was an expert in his industry. Had a few interviews during the 2 years which seemed very promising, followed by "we are sorry but the position has been cancelled". Then those employers rinse and repeat the same sh!t as the same jobs get reposted month after month. They were specifically looking for DEI hires. This individual donated 2 years of his life to this corrupt hiring system.
Also these so called silently quiting or loud quiting trends are the work of HR system. This is a tool to influence dumb employees to quit without HR having to lay them off. Very smart...
@@JustMe-gx4xtOR.. maybe you just aren’t the expert you think you are.
Someone better than you got the job.
Quit complaining and improve. Simple.
@@CptCadoodles I know what I am, where I've been, and what I accomplished. Many gamers like yourself report to me for duty on a daily basis. Your advice can rest in peace.
We didn't choose it; we can't land an interview because we are white men.
A white man started that crap! A white man ended slavery here! A white man thought it’s a good idea to open the border and bring all the beautiful people from diarrhea countries. So cry me a River !!!
More white men in employment than any other category, even percentage wise but you got it bad.. I’d question my skill set if I were you and go find a job you are suitable for..🤣 brain surgeon and rocket scientist positions all taken by elons h-1bs 👍
LAZY
@@Csmith_theRuleryou little soy bots seem to be everywhere.. hopefully soon Trump will write executive orders to get rid of you as well 😂
Lol what? With DEI abolished you’re the only candidate now 😅
I think you just don’t have redeemable skills lol
Quit complaining and get good lol
Many men just despise the despicable corporate culture.
The people debating about this don't work in the labor market.
And never will
Hard to compete with Alejandro who crossed the border from diarrhea continent.
They are being deported..have your son report to the local farm to pick produce.
@@crustyfarmer7688That will never happen and he will be too slow plus wanting too much money. America is going to have a food shortage just like last time Trump was in office.
@@jesserobinson749there was no food shortage last time stop fear mongering we dont need 4 years worth of migrants to pick food😂
Years of being the enemy being a middle aged white male I had no chance on promotion, no pay raise or anything beneficial to me. Having no debt I chose life outside the "workforce".
I understand what you're trying to say, but it's more than possible to have no debt while working at the same time. By doing this, you can maximize your buying power. For example, if you find a job nearby, you could get an inexpensive bike to commute and save lots of money no insurance no payments to be made you can buy whatever you want within a predetermined time.
@@robertking3090 All while getting crapped on at work simply for being a middle-aged white male. Most men are just plain sick of being vilified.
In general, most men are very tolerant, very willing to take the crap. But at some point, most men will step back and step out. They will seek out men-only spaces where they can just be men. And when the women and/or government find those spaces and invade, the men move along to another hiding place. Simply to avoid being vilified.
Increasing numbers of men are sick and tired of being vilified and crapped on. It's that simple. Show most men a modicum of respect, and they are willing to engage. Don't, and men won't.
@@robertking3090 I have not left making income, just left the ridiculous workforce. For the record, I have zero commute and making money in my house shoes.
It is called low wages and you just threw out all the slave labor time to start paying Americans a fair wage.
why would corporations ever want to pay more?😅
I'd say it's because working a full time job with overtime is barely enough to feed our families and pay rent. Can't save up, can barely make ends meet. Everything is on our shoulders and it feels so heavy.
Well heck, I got an idea.. let’s give billionaires and large corporations huge tax breaks to make you feel better 👍🤣🤣🤣
@tonybteacher I feel better already knowing they can afford a second mega-yacht 😂😂 💯
@@TheGiggleMasterP Go work at the mega-yacht company then. No doubt you'll find high enough pay there.
@@peachmango5347 I'll look right into that. I'm SURE they probably have a branch office near me. 😂
If I had a family, I'm doing whatever it takes to provide. I'm not going to just drop out of the labor force and be a deadbeat. 😂
My first job ever was making cardboard boxes. The day right after I graduated high school I started. Thought it was the best thing ever I was going to make $11.50 an hour, what an amazing amount back then. But it was a union job and they took $200 a paycheck for union dues making it $400 a month. I made more money going and working at Wendy's. I never got another union job again after that.
I tried to be a welder as well as a few other factory jobs. But each factory got shut down and re opened in foreign countries. Between the union dues and threat at any time whatever factory job I could get closing and going over seas I swore off such jobs and settled in finances where I make a lot more than I could have in labor positions.
I am sorry you have suffered. I understand. You listed some of the reasons. I can tell more.
My health issues from car accidents have significantly worsened. I've been battling with disability for 7 years. Yes, 7 years. The government employees who say I can work because hey, I used to work, so by their logic why can't I continue to work until I die so they can fund illegals, felons with mile long rap sheets, and anyone who pretends to be transgender. The disability judge, a woman who came across as liberal, wrote a 13 page rejection letter (no joke) saying I'm too well educated and smart (I have a master's degree and I actually have taught college, but couldn't advance or even get hired full-time with benefits because most colleges hate Christians and conservatives and then, when I got a full-time job at a small Christian college for 2 years, it went belly up.) Woman judge, have you never heard of people like Stephen Hawking who was wheelchair bound for most of his life, but was genius level smart and well-educated? She also was so petty that she got into an argument with my lawyer over something trivial at my appeal hearing and refused to admit she was wrong and spent an inordinate amount of time focused on my weight even though I'm around 200 pounds now at 5'9" tall. Yes, I'm obese but, it's not like I weight 300, 400 pounds. Doctors and physical therapists have forbidden me from doing most exercises because my spinal column is a mess. It's also really hard to get down to 175 pounds, which the highest I can weigh for my height when you can't do most exercises and you are in pain EVERY SINGLE DAY. Don't liberals call this fat-shaming? Oh that's right. It's different when they do it.
I mean she has access to hundreds of pages of my medical records and my work history. She knows I was fired because I could not function well enough every day to work. She knows that my doctors and physical therapists said we would try to delay my eventual disability as long as possible with medicine, therapy, and rest. I had gotten to the point where I literally was only working, getting sick or hurt, and existing. But, hey, the idiots working in disability in Tennessee have denied people with stage 4 cancer like my friend's mother, who was put through hell before she died six months later.
Then, off the subject of my life, you have corporation CEOs who make ridiculous salaries while sending jobs overseas and treating their employees like dirt, companies expecting young people to magically have experience when they just got out of school, DEI crap, harassment against anyone conservative and/or Christian going back to Obama's presidency, weaponization of the government, rewarding people for not working and not obeying the law, etc.
Again, I am sorry for your suffering sir. I understand. Americans, especially under Biden, felt hopeless. The Biden administration rewarded bad behavior, corruption, laziness, etc.
Unions are the worst. The Volkswagen employees in my area voted to be in a union a few months ago outvoting the few who made very good arguments that it was a bad idea.
I used to belong to a teacher's union and it was extremely liberal.
Thank you random minimum wage propagandist. i'm convinced unions are worst , now do some other job.
Union dues are normally 2 hours of your hourly pay per monthsonif you’re making 11.50. That’s $23 a month. You telling me you were paying $400 a month. Give me a break
Union dues are that much today. I know . I am a union worker and it pays well. Young men just lazy and need to get a job.
This is me. I retired five years ago. The workplace is a total nightmare with strange lawsuits and employees requesting strange things to even work. The youngsters were almost impossible to train and the pay was just not worth it. So i say…here you go and good luck! Schmitt out!
Single mom's raising soft men could be a factor.
Funny how u go for that instead of missing fathers and figures doing nothing for the next generation, why don’t u volunteer big brother
I'm not in the labor market. My mom was not single. Promise you one thing, I'm far from soft. Years of being the enemy being a middle aged white male I had no chance on promotion, no pay raise or anything beneficial to me. Having no debt I chose life outside the "workforce". Your broad assumption is incorrect
Estrogen in can foods and more ..
everyone who grew up in suburbia is soft.
@@pizzamademedoit Nothing you typed debated my assumption.
I got tired of the DEI being crammed down our throat. I gave up $500 a month to retire early.
As my retirement approaches, I find myself watching alot of "Tiny Home" videos. I've even watched Home Depot shed living videos.
My retirement is the day I die.
Sounds like a personal choice I wouldn’t give up my retirement for someone else that’s just dumb.
I got tired of being the strong and powerful one, while I picked up the slack of DEI, as they are praised for being strong and powerful
@@frivera735 Try to not be so greedy...
Abled-bodied doesn't necessarily translate to good paying jobs
They think they can guilt men into slavery lol. They are toasted. No men means society collapses.
Commies were in power
Huh?
They been barring out white men from a lot of jobs my job at Staples is definitely doing this still. There is 1 token white guy and my job has a high turn over but they keep hiring black guys and some women
Seems that way to those who could pass an aptitude exam doesn't it?
I'm guessing most people can't comprehend the acceptance rates of grants for schools or the actual certifications of the DEI over average white men.. almost like they purposefully ignore the facts to fit their narratives
@@SenorJuan2023communists.. you know the people funding your families to flood America with your uneducated lazy lifestyles..
Why work ... we use to work and buy a home and car have the ability to pay all the bills and still save .... now we cant pay any bills and live in a rotting van down by the river
Because a car and address is needed to work and most can't afford the starting conditions
IDK why they can't. My house may be in the ghetto but it's paid off. Saving up for my second one.
Also not to mention I've seen more lead /supervisor /management positions with bilingual requirements since they are hiring lower pay immigrants.
That would be me 🙋
A man is supposed to make a family. If you take that away from him, why should he work?
EVERYONE SHOULD WORK AN HONEST JOB TO PAY THEIR WAY!
You dont keep a failed system running.
A family is optional you still need to work to support yourself
Oddly enough, the fact that some individuals just being lazy and living off of family members didn't come into the conversation.
Lol those are generational wealth kids.. too rich to work.
@@Ire-b3t There are two young men (different families) within a block of me who are living off family members. They both worked briefly after high school, then stopped completely. Approaching 30 and they have nothing to show for it. These men did not come from wealthy families. I see the parents as the problem in both of these cases.
It's pretty rich when a white man goes to 10 interviews in one day an people say he's just to lazy to work.
When I see Jamarcus come to my part time job to buy steak again on one of his 4 EBT cards while on the phone with his baby mama… then, in a separate transaction, proceed to buy $200 worth of liquor/lottery tickets… it begs me the question, why tf am I even working??!
Do you really want Jamarcus, Tyrone, Jaquanda, and Keith to eat cheap stuff like ramen noodles?!?!
@ 🤣
Something else that hurts is when people like me, whom can no longer work due to disabilities are looked down apon just because they can no longer work.
Industries for the Blind is a thing.
If you don't work how are you surviving? Unless you are homeless. Wages definitely haven't kept up with the cost of living.
When nothing is good enough, you end up wanting to give nothing.
It’s easier now than ever to be self employed. We understand we make more this way. Most companies no longer provide good benefits, pensions, livable wages or job security. I’m a millennial and after 2020 I woke up and most of my peers did as well. We aren’t lazy or soft. It’s just better to operate as your own business or as an independent contractor. There are a lot of us doing this. Literally almost everyone I know. Governments and corporations played too many games and we had to adapt.
So you're NOT one of the men they are talking about, who is "not in the labour market". Small businesses and one-man-bands are a very important part of the labour market.
@radicalcartoons2766it’s “their” labor market, which is large swaths of corporations..
I've been saying this for years and now I say it to the teenagers you must be self employed where you don't need to rely on a 9-5 plus it's less stressful and you can take many days off
The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau needs to go. If you don't get a lawyer to read and advise you regarding every financial transaction you ever sign, then SCREW YOU if it was deceptive.
Get rid of the federal workers: overpaid, lazy, nepotism, political....
Because unskilled labor doesn't pay the bills anymore so why bother. Can't really start a service business either if nobody calls for your services.
Bingo . Unskilled labor is very low pay for exchange very hard work. Meanwhile most these kids twitch, stream, or UA-cam and can easily make 40k a year with very little work.
Hence the need of immigrants willing to do those jobs.. duh!
@@tonybteacher What makes you think immigrants want to do the hard labor jobs only and not thrive in successfully climbing the corporate ladder? So you want illegal immigrants in America only for your benefit of keeping labor wages low and filled? How scum like of you..
@@tonybteacher so you only want immigrants in America so you can keep the laborer wages low and positions filled? you sound like an awful person
@@tonybteacher Real compassionate of you to say. I’m sure immigrants are just dying to come to America to do only low skilled / low wage labor jobs. You sound like an awful person
its called europeanization, I'm able bodied as f and havent worked in 20 years here its pointless as single man anyway I wouldnt be able to buy car or house and the stress of dealing with dumb colleagues daily is icky
How do you pay your bills?
You make it plainly obvious why you are a failure in life by your answer.. try getting some self awareness and the jobs may follow 🤣🤣
Who supports you?
@ Why do you ask?
Everybody is a Bum Except trump
My 1st remember of my Dad I had been 4 or 5 was under a house handing him tools for plumbing our house. At age of 13 I was helping setting Tombstones all over mid eastern USA. That was a normal kid in 1960’s
Lay in the basement and play games, this is also why marriages are failing at an all time high.
No, it's not.
I quit at the beginning of covid, forced out of a six figure job, and realized I was 55, had money, so I retired and don’t regret it. I invested in my “Nancy Pelosi” stock portfolio and make six figures a year sitting at home. Why work at 60 now?? I’m staying out thank you.
Similar here. I was forced out at 60 for a younger person ( female ) who was willing to with more than the 70 hrs a week I was working. I had a great retirement plan and portfolio. Making high 6 figures without a care except old man’s aches and pains.
In high school all of us worked menial jobs to earn money. I don't know of anyone that took out student loans, we paid for our own education. Today's generation expects handouts. Borrows money to buy things they don't need. Expects their student loans to be forgiven. And they wonder why they are worse off then their parents. The reason they are worse off is because the older generation worked their backsides off. Didn't take out loans for vacations, things they didn't need, etc. We went from a hard working society to an entitled society and the rich, both Republicans and Democrats, have been playing off that sense of entitlement to get elected and eventually screw them over.
If you need credit, you should not do it to survive. Having credit is a luxury for responsible adults. And should be a class in high school "mandatory" for all kids to graduate. Because they are still kids at 17 & 18 AND HAVE ALOT OF GROWING TO DO!!!!!!
Bc treated like garbage and taxed beyond belief
Family laws need to change,close divorce courts,remove government from marriage and things will change like you wouldn't believe it!!!
This ☝🏾
it's cause corporations don't want to pay fair wages, or give competitive benefits. this is the rich vs working class
Waste saying that on here. Maga in bed with Epstein’s wingman.🤣
Wait until ai is rolled out.
If you're choosing to not work because shitty pay, you're lazy. Shitty pay is more than no pay. How else are you going to survive? Soup kitchens? 😂
How please!? If it’s possible, I would appreciate if you show me how to go about it
Well, I picked the challenge to put my finances in order. Then I invested in cryptocurrency,stocks,through the assistance of my discretionary fund manager, Mrs Alice freld.
I know Alice freld. Her platform maintains a unique perspective and is very transparent with their investors. Regardless of whether or not she outperforms. I will forever stay invested!
DEI and insurmountable inflation is why .
Excuse me but how can men simply choose not to work without ending up homeless? I'd like to find out so I can quit my job and join them lol.
Sorry but they are just dressing as women and making money other ways.
It probably depends on the demographic but my hunch is if these 'men' are under 30 they are likely still a burden to their parents.
They live off their mommies or girlfriends.
@@niq6531 what's stopping you? You can always quit and be a nobody. The welfare state would prop you up forever in a democrat wonderland.
They just don’t work long hours. Back in the day I’d see fights in parking lots for OT. Today the young guys never choose to work OT.
Can’t afford anything with money, houses overpriced and American women not worth marrying
This is exactly right. If a man can’t afford to buy his own home or Raise his own family. What is he really working for?…..
American men are not worth marrying we not gonna financially support men sorry not sorry😂
Because it's more comfortable to paper skim off the US markets then to do manual labor.
It's the American way.
I’m a felon been out ten years nobody hires us 🇺🇸
And the people who say they hire felons only do so in order to take advantage of them.
A felon! You should run for president.
amzn and fed ex will
Plenty of jobs coming available in government. Trump is looking for chumps just like you👍 I am assuming you are a white supreme fan though 🤣🤣
Run for office
Why most profitable companies choose not to pay salaries that cover living costs?
Remote work living overseas best for single men. No bureaucracy and low cost of living with more opportunities for dating non American women
I had a summer job every year since 12 yrs old …..by high school it was 40 hrs a week,and I was proud of myself
...able-bodied men choosing not to participate in the job market... for 15 years.
Were done paying taxes to work for a low wage that we can't live like a normal person that wants a home a car a vacation and have a savings account so we will jusr survive the government is stealing to much money.
If men choose not to work, the question is who is supporting them?
Most important question.
Since when has the purpose of life become to seek employment?
Just because someone cant find a job that does NOT mean they dont want to work. Someone I know well spent 2 years applying with close to 1000 applications, and almost no call backs from employers. Was an expert in his industry that trained others to work effectively. Had a few interviews that seemed very promising followed by "we are sorry but the position has been cancelled". Then those employers rinse and repeat the same sh!t as the same jobs get reposted month after month. They were specifically looking for DEI hires. This individual donated 2 years of his life to this corrupt hiring system. Do you want to work a few years for free? Hell No.
Work for ourselves only make 12000 and give the government the 0 that they deserve
@ But you are working and supporting yourself. How are the others getting by?
I remember working in construction and general labor in the 90s and where-house work and i can tell you for the amount of money they paid you and the work they wanted you to do forget it it, you could spend your whole days wages at the 7/11 store and the people you had to deal with they can keep it!
Age discrimination is real. Most folks over 60 are replaced without transfer of their knowledge to younger people.
Most likely someone else is feeding them and keeping them alive.
I have to spend around $300 a week just to get to work and back, therefore I can only do jobs that pay at least $25 an hour with plenty of overtime. That really limits my options.
Move to another state. It way better in AR.
We can’t afford to buy anything anyway. Why work?
Don't you need money for food?
If you only have the prospect of never having a house or family why bother working hard anymore.
the PAY is to low
Short answer: because nobody likes being a wage slave
Because we only have one life And who tf wants to spend all their time working for an ever fluctuating piece of paper and you get ripped off by employers constantly. I'd rather die than not have the freedom to say F you to my boss.
RAISE….THE……WAGES!!!!!
Thats a recipe for inflation. Instead of across the board wage raises, why not start expanding your skills so you can apply to jobs that offer a higher wage? Why be the minimum wage tail when you can do something today for a possibly better tomorrow?
@@JustMe-gx4xt ….WE JUST WENT THROUGH 4 YEARS OF JOE BIDEN, NOT EVERY STATE IS THE SAME, NOT EVERY JOB IS THE SAME, PEOPLE CAN’T AFFORD TO “GET” TO WORK!!!!!
Many of us have saved enough to live without being a forever-wage-slave and that’s more valuable than a handbag or some stupid consumerist flashy trinket. No thanks!! Freedom baby!
Atlas shrugged.
This situation is the result of mass inflation of the US based dollar to fund a vast, non productive federal and state bureaucracy and massive non cost effective infrastructure projects.
For the majority of legal US employees 25 % of the entire lifetime of income is taxed.... to fund what ?
They are use to hand outs. I was told by a person. Why work when you are getting free stuff. So sad.
I didn't work after getting out of the Army. I had a better life being poor than working.
How did you pay your bills?
Social security and government handouts.. the Maga way 👍
@@SenorJuan2023 His mommy and daddy, living in their basement and draining their retirement money.
Im 60 and worked all my life started at 16. Now for this younger gen. It maybe more encouraging to work knowing the gov is no longer wasting your tax money from your pay checks. If gov dont change and then theres is no reason to work if they steal your money from ya 😊
There are no jobs even for college graduates it's tough out there. Lot's of employers say their hiring, post jobs and never fill them.
I rejected a tree service job because they pay 16 an hour, the livable wage in the city they operate in is 18.76, not even minimum wage for dangerous hard labor...
I left my great paying job almost 2 years ago in protest against the INSANITY going on in D.C. There was no way a penny of mine was going to pay the salaries of those corrupt bastards. Day trade the market and loving every minute of it. Might go back now that the adults are back as the stock market is running out of steam. We need a good 10-15% correction to lower stock prices!!
Every generation but the current generation, had to work during high school to have money to spend. You took whatever job you could, fast food, mowing yards, roofing houses, construction, etc. There were very few illegal immigrants because the borders were more secure and illegal immigrants were deported if caught. Jobs were available if you were willing to work. Now, most high school students don't work and rely on their parents for money. Many of the entry level jobs have gone to illegal and legal immigrants. Most construction jobs rely on illegals. Many of the retail jobs at malls and shopping centers have gone away due to Amazon and other online stores. My opinion is that if you start working before 16 you understand that you don't know what you don't know. You also learn to appreciate that with work comes money. Better work equals better money. Better work equals a feeling of accomplishment. Now you have parents paying kids for little to no work. They learn that they don't have to work to get money. They don't get to feel like they need to accomplish something because they don't. They think they know everything because they never experienced learning new things. In one generation we have gone from a competent and stable workforce to entitled new employees who think they know better than their bosses. They have little competitive drive and they don't understand that doing good work is rewarding and doing exceptional work is motivating. The problem is "how do you get back" to teenagers learning how to work and it's benefits. By the time they are in their 20s and have never worked, they will have a tough time in life. Working isn't punishment, it's an opportunity. Parents aren't helping their kids if they continue to support them after high school.
Not what’s going on. You still have a worsing 1% to 99% and now Trump has fast forwarded The Great Melt-Up. It’s like the Great Depression but much worse. Thanks boomers.
To me it often times come down to the environment where the person is working, most family businesses are a joke with family members that either aren’t qualified or willing to work hard getting advanced above the better people, and there is all the other types nepotism and narcissistic management that really love having their backsides kissed not to mention all the fear of someone claiming racism or sexism or whatever the the latest ism happens to be. It’s gotten to the point where legitimate concerns and complaints are falling on lazy ears. THE REAL PROBLEM THESE DAYS IS NOT THE PROBLEM ITSELF BUT THE PERSON THAT POINTS OUT THE PROBLEM, THAT IS THE REAL PROBLEM THESE DAYS.
Retired at 51, construction worker wages for 30 years. Maxed out 401ks and stayed debt free except a modest mortgage. Became a millionaire by 50. There’s more to my story but being disciplined was the main thing.
It's that easy. And to add to live below your means. 👍🏾
The company you work for owns you.....thats why.
Why can't a mom with three kids, with three different baby daddys, get a job? She just gets paid 1000s of dollars a month for free?
Is there someone out there like this? Probably... Would these people make up even one one millionth of our 4.1% unemployment. Doubtfully.
@FirstNameLastName-ib3cp There are tens of thousands of single mothers that do that, what are you talking about?
@@chrisc2535 Let's take what you said as true and it's tens of thousands. Let's round it way up to 50,000. That's still only a fraction of a percentage. On a per capita basis there are more Jan 6th rioters which have gotten into shootouts with police since being pardoned.
@FirstNameLastName-ib3cp If a per capita argument is what you’re using to falsely claim what you just did then I have nothing to add. Have a good day.
Why? I'm 46, I haven't worked since 2020. This system is so broken financially. The cost of living continues to skyrocket due to insane government policies. I moved back into my father's basement, now I just play video games, watch movies and sleep as much as possible. Working full time wouldn't even be enough to get my own 1 bedroom apartment where I am. What's the point anymore?
Thank you for being honest. You are not alone. Most other Maga commentators are in the same position.. fox your only lifeline 🤣🤣
@@tonybteacherYour side is the one that has not money. This is why all of your woke products fail
If you spend so much time on the computer and you're not even paying rent, why not try for a wfh data entry job, at least it would get you started again?
@@tonybteachereven in an issue with labor and pay it’s always maga with you dolts, you act like we didn’t just spend 4 years with hairsniffing p3do Biden, bruh, y’all leftists are worthless.
@radicalcartoons2766 that sounds like a great idea, then you have to buy a bunch of their equipment and pay them with apple gift cards.
They're wondering why guys don't want to do the jobs that suck and for little. My guess is the fields where people do mostly useless things and get paid well, like say economists and "journalists", well they have no shortages.
My grandson got tired of low paying jobs so he started his own business with $90 and makes over $200k and pays his manager $100k. USA is the land of opportunity. Negative thinking gets you nowhere. My AC guy went to trade school to learn the business. Worked for someone a short while then started his own company. He's doing great. Same with my pool guy. He got training then started his own business and lives in a mansion. If you have the will, there is always a way. My Dad always said, "There's no such word as 'can't. Just go do it." He was successful in his early 20s designing aircraft for Boeing. Success is between the ears. Start believing in yourselves, men.
Inspirational stories are great, and it's good to give recognition to those entrepreneurs. But it's important to also look at the reality of everyday life. In the 90s someone who works at a grocery store could support a family of 3. Now 2 hours of work wouldn't even be able to buy eggs and milk.
@FirstNameLastName-ib3cp We are living in the times the Bible speaks about. The Scriptures speak that in the Last Days knowledge will be greatly increased, cost of bread will be a days wages (referring to extreme inflation), evil will be called good and good called evil, people will be cold hearted and lovers of themselves and haters of God. Still, those who trust in God can overcome many of these things, but we do live in a much different world today. In 1965 my rent for a 2 bedroom nice apartment in the DC area was $75 month. Today that same apartment is $2500. In 1970 I bought a home on 7 acres for $42,000. Today that same home sold for over $700,000. McDonalds in the 60's a hamburger, fries and drink with free refills was $.45. A loaf of bread was $.20. Government spending and greed did this and a lack of following the 10 Commandments. There is hope because Jesus Christ promised to return in the Last Days. We don't know exactly when but the sign of the times is now. God bless.
Cause you still end up eating canned corn and fried potatoes for dinner.
I am tired of these young people who think any job is below them. You get a crappy job to gain experience.
With good work attendance and a positive attitude, you look for a better job and gain more experience. Sorry to give you the news your parents should have told you (you do not start off at the top)
Tell that to the goodwill that didn't employ me to unpack peoples donations from their car trunks and sorting items into bins.
tell that to target who rejected me when I applied to be a cart pusher