For those curious about the lack of urgency in this drill… This is the fire service playbook used for training and drills only. It emphasises control and efficiency, not speed. In a live operation, a hose reel (primarily used as a covering jet) would be deployed immediately as it already has a fed water supply, whilst the rest of the crew will run out a lay flat or two and find a water source (hydrant or open source). Generally 45s and 70s aren’t required as often as people think. Two hose reels will often do the job.
In Poland we have in my opinion better system for drills. We use water splitter and if we want to extend or short the line we just give command to each other without a words. i.e Nozzle operator when ready raises arm up and show "forward" . It means "Im ready, open water supply" we say ( water ahead) Arm waving from side to side means water STOP. Arm raises and fall like train whistle or horn motion (upwards), mean increase water pressure, the same but Downwards = decrease water pressure
We also use that system here, the arm signals are more used than shouting out this is just training, if we are at a point where the pump operator can't see but they can hear us shout then we would shout.
Hi, you guys deployed this hose "conventionally" (as I was taught in the armed services) yet in your other video, the "Dutch Roll" or "Roll on a Bight" was used. Why the difference? I did note the other hose was a smaller diameter... This method, with a layflat hose, we were taught was fastest, and subjected the hose to less abrasion during deployment. I know times change, but generally there's a reason for doing things a particular way, I just wondered... Keep up the good work, anyway, we can't do without you.
A Dutch roll is good for deployment in a more open space environment. These single rolls are more used for bowling and navigating tight spaces. However though this is pretty slow compared to a real fire ground.
It really is interesting the differences. The hose connections are very different from the US (no shock, but those are kind of cool quick connect things), my agency has never allowed running on the fire ground just walk with a mission/urgency (too easy to injure self accidentally), and nozzleman is holding the kickback of the hose with his arms instead of into his hip or the ground. Your arms will tire a LOT faster if you do it that way. Pressure on the line seems pretty low though, so maybe not a big deal... but then you wouldn't need backers either.
@@almerindaromeira8352 Until you are picking up someone who hurt themselves on scene because they were running and not only did you take time away to deal with them, you are down a guy.
@@seanmahoney2671don't join the fire service if you can't run. You can trip and fall by walking too, is not like jogging is going to exponentially increase the risk
Are there switches in the pump to switch when it switches from operates with water from the tank to from water connect from hydrant, can both be connected cocurrently?
The tank delivers to the pump casing from above via a tank valve & this is normally closed whilst connected to a pressure fed supply ( hydrant or another fire appliance)& always for an open water supply utilising suction lift ( lifting by vacuum from a river, etc.). If the hydrant is a adequate, it is possible to re-fill the tank whilst delivering to the fire-ground at the same time, by temporarily re-opening the tank valve. Hope this makes sense. If a primer fails during suction lift, then the tank may also be utilised to prime the system, but it's a one off chance, so it has to work. This is never official practice though.
It's not a salute, they're called 'pumping signals'. They are used when it's noisy on a fire and the pump operator can't hear the person on the hose. An arm straight up in the air is 'water on' so the pump operator gives water. The arm out to the side then down is 'knock off' so the pump operator turns that delivery off. An arm up and making a pulling down motion (like you'd signal to a truck driver to sound their horn) means increase pressure by one bar. One arm straight up and one out to the side in an 'L' shape means reduce pressure by one bar.
I would have thought fire hose drills would need to be carried out as fast as possible to ensure firefighters could do it under pressure since fires are not slow.
After the video released by this channel (How UK Fire Fighters put out a house fire) and turned the comments off. Truly shows the LUNACY of who ever is approving the training and tactics of this fire service. In the USA if I were to perform a Vent Enter Search then return to the window with or without a victim, and the ladder was moved outta reach. Someone would be going to hospital and fired. Completely LUNACY. I'm curious how many people die a year in UK house fires???
I am in the UK , but not in this Brigade and I watched the video you talked about and I understand what you mean . Using the harness and lowering the casualty down looked much safer than doing a carry down , but as you say it meant re positioning the ladder and extending it and pitching it higher up to in corporate the pulley system , BUT like you I also thought how the hell do the BA Team get out of the building quickly if something has gone wrong and their ladder isnt there .? I also noticed that comments were not allowed on that video . If possible I wonder if a second ladder could have been pitched at the side of the first so that at no point were the BA Team left without an escape route . It may be that as this was for demonstration purposes at a ' safe ' venue that the video was just to show us how they carry out the rescue .
Norfolk (county) is almost entirely retained, i.e. similar to US volunteers. Try visiting a mostly wholetime ( professional) British Fire service for a complete contrast.
These are drills from the fire service drill book and they do this "regimented" style right through training this gets the team going as each member has a number and a role, by the time they are graduating they will know each role and will be proficient in each of these. At the start its not about speed its about getting to know how to use the equiipment correctly, too much speed at the start of training can cause unnecessary injury and mistakes. When they get out the stations they will continue training with their colleagues, but the basics will all be there. If you observe fully trained FFs at a call the jump into action without "regimented drill" and this is because they have been trained using these long established well tried methods.
No they dont . When you learn you learn by drilling like this to get used to how you do it . When they were running the hose out one firefighter who has run out their hose kneels down to accept the next firefighter's hose ( as shown in the first drill ). At a real job you might be doing this task by yourself if the rest of the crew is busy .
The other day a fire truck took off for a fire after leaving the grocery store for food I presume and the hose flew out the truck and kept releasing as they were flying down the road. It laid stretched out on the road while they kept driving. I tried to catch and tell them but they couldn’t hear nor see me. Finally I turned off and said screw it… how dumb can they be. They need something updated to tell them their hose is not secure in those old ass trucks if they’re not going to make sure they check check and recheck things like that.
@@josephmalsom I just watched the video that has comments turned off, (How UK Fire Fighters put out house fire) Beyond scratching my head in disbelief, a confirmed victim, and nearly 5min before making entry, then place the ladder out of there reach for some silly contraption. Stand around and listen to some white hat to explain to you how he wants you to perform a Job, not any job but your own Job,,?!$#-+&()!!?!! WTF? STFU! you have a confirm entrapment!! Maybe he should train the pump operator during the fire. There isn't anything proper about any of this.
For those curious about the lack of urgency in this drill…
This is the fire service playbook used for training and drills only. It emphasises control and efficiency, not speed.
In a live operation, a hose reel (primarily used as a covering jet) would be deployed immediately as it already has a fed water supply, whilst the rest of the crew will run out a lay flat or two and find a water source (hydrant or open source). Generally 45s and 70s aren’t required as often as people think. Two hose reels will often do the job.
Never look down whilst connecting.. keep your head up.
@greigshearer5614 why?
I've just started as an On Call Firefighter and these are brilliant!
Thanks for this and thanks for knocking off the music eventually, wanted to know what they were shouting.
Hollow Hat for water
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Brings back memories when i did my recruit training at Reigate.. 38yrs ago.😱
In Poland we have in my opinion better system for drills. We use water splitter and if we want to extend or short the line we just give command to each other without a words. i.e
Nozzle operator when ready raises arm up and show "forward" . It means "Im ready, open water supply" we say ( water ahead)
Arm waving from side to side means water STOP.
Arm raises and fall like train whistle or horn motion (upwards), mean increase water pressure,
the same but Downwards = decrease water pressure
We also use that system here, the arm signals are more used than shouting out this is just training, if we are at a point where the pump operator can't see but they can hear us shout then we would shout.
You are correct Sir, these people are wrong. This is not how it is taught in the UK Fire Service Drill book. Be wary of their other videos too.
@@ashleyhoward8926isn't it ?
Respect to the fire women and men!
Hi, you guys deployed this hose "conventionally" (as I was taught in the armed services) yet in your other video, the "Dutch Roll" or "Roll on a Bight" was used. Why the difference? I did note the other hose was a smaller diameter... This method, with a layflat hose, we were taught was fastest, and subjected the hose to less abrasion during deployment. I know times change, but generally there's a reason for doing things a particular way, I just wondered...
Keep up the good work, anyway, we can't do without you.
A Dutch roll is good for deployment in a more open space environment. These single rolls are more used for bowling and navigating tight spaces. However though this is pretty slow compared to a real fire ground.
This is purely demonstration real life these guys would be flat out
Dutch roll is usually deployed as the last line of hose at the entrance of the building, and allows the FFs to have a "bight" of hose as they enter.
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@@scrappy673we tend to Dutch role the 45 mm hose.
British Standard FF, well executed
At 4:00 it should water off delivery 1 I think
It really is interesting the differences. The hose connections are very different from the US (no shock, but those are kind of cool quick connect things), my agency has never allowed running on the fire ground just walk with a mission/urgency (too easy to injure self accidentally), and nozzleman is holding the kickback of the hose with his arms instead of into his hip or the ground. Your arms will tire a LOT faster if you do it that way. Pressure on the line seems pretty low though, so maybe not a big deal... but then you wouldn't need backers either.
All fire service equipment uses instantaneous couplings
Yeah, they all say no running but when you are understaffed, have quite a big job at hands and the public is watching everything goes.
@@almerindaromeira8352 Until you are picking up someone who hurt themselves on scene because they were running and not only did you take time away to deal with them, you are down a guy.
@@seanmahoney2671don't join the fire service if you can't run.
You can trip and fall by walking too, is not like jogging is going to exponentially increase the risk
@@josh35639 No it doesn't. There are stortz & hosereel couplings, not to mention suction couplings, etc., etc.
Are there switches in the pump to switch when it switches from operates with water from the tank to from water connect from hydrant, can both be connected cocurrently?
As far as I know you can only use on or the other . You just close the tank valve if you want to use the pressure fed supply .
The tank delivers to the pump casing from above via a tank valve & this is normally closed whilst connected to a pressure fed supply ( hydrant or another fire appliance)& always for an open water supply utilising suction lift ( lifting by vacuum from a river, etc.). If the hydrant is a adequate, it is possible to re-fill the tank whilst delivering to the fire-ground at the same time, by temporarily re-opening the tank valve. Hope this makes sense. If a primer fails during suction lift, then the tank may also be utilised to prime the system, but it's a one off chance, so it has to work. This is never official practice though.
Do firefighters do this at real fires?
Nope
Nope... such wasted time pulling out the hose and sending runners.. just throw ur hand up and shout water on and bowl your hoses and they'd be set...
Never
We never do it like that
@@niksvab7148 is it just for the camera or are the drills actually carried out like this
Line 1 or is it delivery 1
Line one is the hose . Delivery one is the outlet you connect the hose to on the pump . Generally numbered from left to right .
Number one delivery, answer complete Sir!
One of the most funny drill i ever seen
On the races they’re so fast
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If 999 calls comes in about RTC you need get the in 2 miss ok
What’s with the extended arm “salute” thing? Seems too high a level of military style routine that chews up time.
It's not a salute, they're called 'pumping signals'. They are used when it's noisy on a fire and the pump operator can't hear the person on the hose. An arm straight up in the air is 'water on' so the pump operator gives water. The arm out to the side then down is 'knock off' so the pump operator turns that delivery off. An arm up and making a pulling down motion (like you'd signal to a truck driver to sound their horn) means increase pressure by one bar. One arm straight up and one out to the side in an 'L' shape means reduce pressure by one bar.
Im also the firefighter but they make me laugh
Same
I would have thought fire hose drills would need to be carried out as fast as possible to ensure firefighters could do it under pressure since fires are not slow.
It's done this way so you CAN do it fast. The more comfortable you are with breaking something down into steps the easier it is to do for real
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After the video released by this channel (How UK Fire Fighters put out a house fire) and turned the comments off. Truly shows the LUNACY of who ever is approving the training and tactics of this fire service. In the USA if I were to perform a Vent Enter Search then return to the window with or without a victim, and the ladder was moved outta reach. Someone would be going to hospital and fired. Completely LUNACY. I'm curious how many people die a year in UK house fires???
I am in the UK , but not in this Brigade and I watched the video you talked about and I understand what you mean . Using the harness and lowering the casualty down looked much safer than doing a carry down , but as you say it meant re positioning the ladder and extending it and pitching it higher up to in corporate the pulley system , BUT like you I also thought how the hell do the BA Team get out of the building quickly if something has gone wrong and their ladder isnt there .? I also noticed that comments were not allowed on that video . If possible I wonder if a second ladder could have been pitched at the side of the first so that at no point were the BA Team left without an escape route . It may be that as this was for demonstration purposes at a ' safe ' venue that the video was just to show us how they carry out the rescue .
Norfolk (county) is almost entirely retained, i.e. similar to US volunteers. Try visiting a mostly wholetime ( professional) British Fire service for a complete contrast.
@@ashleyhoward8926I have a sneaking suspicion you might have a problem with Retained Ashley ?
Your branck look hard to connect
Not how you should hold a fire hose
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Wow! That's really embarrassing. I hope our firefighters don't do any of this regimented textbook nonsense when fighting a real fire 🤦♂️
These are drills from the fire service drill book and they do this "regimented" style right through training this gets the team going as each member has a number and a role, by the time they are graduating they will know each role and will be proficient in each of these. At the start its not about speed its about getting to know how to use the equiipment correctly, too much speed at the start of training can cause unnecessary injury and mistakes. When they get out the stations they will continue training with their colleagues, but the basics will all be there. If you observe fully trained FFs at a call the jump into action without "regimented drill" and this is because they have been trained using these long established well tried methods.
TheDrummie1 couldn’t have said it better myself
You haven't a clue what you're even looking at.
@@yjwrangler7819 who me? Wrong.
No they dont . When you learn you learn by drilling like this to get used to how you do it . When they were running the hose out one firefighter who has run out their hose kneels down to accept the next firefighter's hose ( as shown in the first drill ). At a real job you might be doing this task by yourself if the rest of the crew is busy .
The other day a fire truck took off for a fire after leaving the grocery store for food I presume and the hose flew out the truck and kept releasing as they were flying down the road. It laid stretched out on the road while they kept driving. I tried to catch and tell them but they couldn’t hear nor see me. Finally I turned off and said screw it… how dumb can they be. They need something updated to tell them their hose is not secure in those old ass trucks if they’re not going to make sure they check check and recheck things like that.
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What kind of hekin hose rolling is that and that’s that fucking weak nozzle I am a firefighter in German and what’s that weak nozzle
You need to skit the fire hose
And they could just tucking scream
They are doing it slowly purely for demonstration purposes. If they did it fast, people wouldn't have a clue whats going on
I wasn't aware that an akron475l was a weak branch I mean it'll drain a pump in about 4mins, at 3 bar it won't be throwing far
YIKES LMAO lots things need to be changed in European firefighting and I mean LOTS
A year on and we're all still waiting for your suggestions kid
@@josephmalsom I just watched the video that has comments turned off, (How UK Fire Fighters put out house fire)
Beyond scratching my head in disbelief, a confirmed victim, and nearly 5min before making entry, then place the ladder out of there reach for some silly contraption. Stand around and listen to some white hat to explain to you how he wants you to perform a Job, not any job but your own Job,,?!$#-+&()!!?!! WTF? STFU! you have a confirm entrapment!! Maybe he should train the pump operator during the fire. There isn't anything proper about any of this.
Worng drill im Indian firefighters
Ba hahahahahahahah 🤣🤣🤣 only the Brit’s could do something so funny 🤣🤣🙄🙄