I have always had a heart for Pogorelich. I always will have. I heard him play the Sydney Opera House - two solo recitals - during the mid 1980s. I have never forgotten. He walked on stage to sit at the piano and transform it into an Aladdin's Cave of hidden wonders. His stage presence was the equal of Nureyev. I like to think of Pogorelich as the Nureyev of the piano.
I also think he was trapped in a cave. The "cave" was his teacher/lover. And as far as I know, he was never able to go beyond this "cave" or her genius. Or....... I haven't heard it yet. His work seems so contrived. Too well thought out. I find it annoying... at times. I wonder if he's into composing music by now? Must be. Blessing... on us all.
Алексей Султанов придумал оучшую из лучших интерпретацию. Канaлы: саrevnarakuna, harmony 14447. И комменты. Особенно с симфоническим Оркестром г. Далласа, США.. Победитель конкурса пианистов им Вэна Клайберна в 1989г.
a great tremendous performance, his earlier days, when he was at his prime.a sensitive superb artist, wished he still played like this, can't have everything, extraordinary, history,
Responding to Mr castbreeder1 I have only one thing to say. The man who knows how to love is never lost. God does not abandon him either. The power of the artist to convey his feelings to the public and make us feel the fullness that only a charismatic person could offer is his peak at the moment.
Even if aliens, who have evolved millions tear longer than us, arrive here and here this tune, they surely would be impressed. This is music for the gods!
Beautiful! So nice to hear it sound lyrical and intimate, like a chamber work, not drowned in reverb and pedal. Listen with earphones (because mics are far away).
There is a kind of note by note clarity about his playing that sometimes obscures the language of the whole phrase; an intense concentration on each note individually that leaves the listener without the cue to the texture of the containing phrase; a portrait painting with technically perfect brush strokes, color choices, shaping of light and shadow....but where’s Mona? It’s not a criticism. I love his playing and I hear different things every time I listen because of the translucent clarity of his technique. Then I listen to Lipatti, who also had the perfection and control, but then the music can bring tears to my eyes. Example: Chopin Barcarolle. Zimmerman gets close but not there. Rubinstein gets there but technically not as good and that distracts. Pogorelich gets there with Scarlatti and almost there with the Liszt B mi sonata, and other pianists have their zeniths, but Lipatti gets there for me with everything he plays. It might be that his playing is not exposed to the rigors of modern precision sound technology. Who knows. But this Croatian genius was never properly recognized because he isn’t charismatic in the way that sways juries, even those comprising his greatest piers. Martha Argerich saw it in him and resigned in protest against the foggy-eyed mediocrity of her fellow judges. Go for a trip, Ivo, recapture some of that joie de vivre and wow me yet again.
David, I think you hit a right note here; a subtle and a very precise note. But I still like him; I still think he is capable or reaching depths unattainable to anyone else.
The orchestra was very good so I got curious about the orchestra and the conductor. And just before the 2nd movement began, the camera showed the face of the conductor and it was surprisingly Mikhail Pletnev. The orchestra must be the Russian National Orchestra.
.This concerto was tiring me from other pianist until I saw this one.See the way he pedals on EACH note.Best version yet is his studio recording with Abbado and the London Symphony orchestra here on YT.
Вже 30 років після дититнства думав, що Чайковський не зможе мене зачепити. Але Іво і давно всім відомому зумів знайти Своє Нове. Це як колись було з Й.С.Бах і А.Вівальді : що там грати - Скука! Браво, Погореліч!
Like the way he adjusted the stool to play the double octaves in first movement developement...he forgot to readjust it...😕!Truly wonderful playing.Sadly,he peaked early.Hey,who's complaining??He provided much excitement & pleasure in his early days.How many people can one say that about?😕
The man who knows how to love is never lost. God does not abandon him either. The power of the artist to convey his feelings to the public and make us feel the fullness that only a charismatic person could offer is his peak at the moment.
@@akanatsouli Your words resonate. I have loved Pogorelich since the first day I knew of him, as far back as the early 80s. And, however wayward at an interpretative level his playing might have become, I have always learned from him. he digs deep, very deep, to that region where eve the soul can sometimes be out of tune with itself. But as you say, he who knows of Love is never lost, for does Love return as to Love, the Truth of Who We Are. Bless you, Aleka!
Was his personal loss a transformative experience that changed him. I’m sure not entirely because one catches little oddities in his playing, although when not too obvious or numerous they can be interesting and even enhancing to the performance. He is still around and, my having just come from a joe rogan podcast with Michael pollan on psychedelics I’m wondering what a properly supervised psilocybin experience might do to Ivo. Something happened to him and there seems to me to have been an Asperger phenotype already there in him that let loose a different artist. He’s a genius and things can happen to disturb the delicate power and beauty of genius, sort of like drying out plant trichomes incorrectly and expecting to get the terpenes back by just rehydrating them. Ain’t going to happen. On the other hand, if one could add them back by reenergizing the DNA transcription from whence they came, perhaps one could restore the greatness. Maybe I’ll get lucky and receive a troll-free reply that means something.
There's probably nothing wrong with you, you believe, that a little Prozac and a polo-mallet wouldn't cure....and that this same règimen might help the Maestro as well.......
I love how after the orchestral intro he decided it wasn't fast enough and singlehandedly raised the tempo for the whole orchestra AND the conductor... poor conductor 😂😂 And not to mention the constant rubato xDDD
I think Pogorelich is very interesting here but I'm not sure Pletnev was ideal for this.. or maybe Pletnev did his best to go along with Pogorelich's own timing, or did Pletnev slowed him down too much I don't know... I'm so used to Horowitz/Walter that I can't help but find this a bit spineless. Maybe I shouldn't compare. They must have played it exactly the way they intended to.
Wonderful!It would be hard to imagine this in a better performance(including Richter and Martha Argerich).How does one go from being a truly great artist to becoming an oddity? Very sad.
Ivo was diagnosed with rheumatic fever when he was young, later hepatities that lingered for years. Check out both online and what they did to his body!!!! His wife passed away from liver cancer., it was horrific, as she was dying, he kissed her and black blood splattered all over his face!!! Everyone should listen to his performance of Chopin 4 scherzi 1994 in Napoli, also 1990 performance May 7, at Carnegie Hall!!!
very musical but honestly (don't judge) I miss the barnstorming in the famous octave passages. I mean, at some level people only listen to this concerto for those passages, *right* 🙂
Supone la renovación del pianismo ruso por la irrupción refulgente de una nueva lectura: es como el paso de la televisión en blanco y negro a la televisión en color.
what's with the crowd and their non-stop coughing? I've seen badly behaved audiences before but these guys take it to another level with their incessant coughing! and Ivo hates it when audiences cough during performance too.
Ivo Pogorelich should meditate what Alfred Brendel said about the interpreter : "All our talent and our sensibility are in the service of the composer, the real creator. It does not belong to us to tell him what he should have written, but to understand what he wrote - and to imagine what he would have been able to write but to which he preferred another fork." This is especially true for his very personal interpretation of this concerto.
That's why Brendel is so boring! May I recommend you read the article "We Are Playing Classical Music All Wrong" by Clive Brown, Professor of Applied Musicology at University of Leeds. Also some reading of accounts by and about musicians and composers of classical music, in their time would be useful. Pogorelich is doing what a great musician would do. He is " Interpreting" not just reading a score.
Each era has its artistic criteria for interpretation, and it is a very open debate as to how far an interpreter can take liberties with the text. We know the anecdote of Liszt who took great liberties in interpreting one of Chopin's works in his presence, and that Chopin disavowed telling him to play what he had written or otherwise not to play the work. Personally I am not a maniac for the absolute respect of the text, but when a composer indicates a tempo "Allegro" and that the interpreter plays "Adagio", I think that he betrays the composer's thought. Similarly when he makes huge "ritardandos" not written on the score. That's what Pogorelich does with this concerto.
Tempi are also rather relative unless there is a metronome tempo written, and even then... All music that was put on paper was meant to be re played by someone other than the composer therefore it will have the imprint of the interpreter, as it should be and composers knew that. As for taking liberties,, there are accounts of many musicians doing that, just think of Bach and his contemporaries where being able to improvise was a MUST! Today musicians don't do it mostly because they don't have the capacity to do it. As for tastes, indeed we live in the mass production age and music didn't escape. So most classical music you hear today is like out a a production line... all the same, boxed in, lifeless reproduction of a score, with no personality. Torture to listen to and not fall asleep! IMO Pogorelich does exactly the opposite. He keeps one very much focused and immersed in the music and makes on travel, all in good taste.
I agree that tempi are very relative. How fast must be an Allegro or how slow must be an Andante is often a question of personal feeling. But here this is not the problem. At bar 359 (12:36) the composer indicates on the score "a tempo", so he asks to return to the preceding tempo after a ritardando two bars earlier. And this tempo is "Allegro". But here Pogorelich after a massive ritardando goes on with a very slow tempo, obviously more an Adagio than an Allegro. Maybe this dreamy and meditative mood given by Pogorelich for this passage can be telling for some, but it is not what Tchaikovsky wanted. I would add that I rarely heard an introduction so ponderously played by the pianist, with a noticeable change of tempo at 1:00
Absolutely right.This concerto was tiring me from other pianist until I saw this one.See the way he pedals on EACH note.Best version yet is his studio recording with Abbado and the London Symphony orchestra here on YT.
I have always had a heart for Pogorelich. I always will have. I heard him play the Sydney Opera House - two solo recitals - during the mid 1980s. I have never forgotten. He walked on stage to sit at the piano and transform it into an Aladdin's Cave of hidden wonders. His stage presence was the equal of Nureyev. I like to think of Pogorelich as the Nureyev of the piano.
I also think he was trapped in a cave. The "cave" was his teacher/lover. And as far as I know, he was never able to go beyond this "cave" or her genius. Or....... I haven't heard it yet. His work seems so contrived. Too well thought out. I find it annoying... at times. I wonder if he's into composing music by now? Must be. Blessing... on us all.
@@charlesdavis7087 best way of screaming that your gey
After all that geniality he looks like a god too! OMG
Young Lion Pogorelich, so very good.
Woooaahhh - who else but Pogorelich could come up with such a distinctive interpretation of this concerto 🙏🙏🙏
Алексей Султанов придумал оучшую из лучших интерпретацию. Канaлы: саrevnarakuna, harmony 14447. И комменты. Особенно с симфоническим Оркестром г. Далласа, США.. Победитель конкурса пианистов им Вэна Клайберна в 1989г.
Алексей Султанов. 🌹
a great tremendous performance, his earlier days, when he was at his prime.a sensitive superb artist, wished he still played like this, can't have everything, extraordinary, history,
Responding to Mr castbreeder1 I have only one thing to say. The man who knows how to love is never lost. God does not abandon him either. The power of the artist to convey his feelings to the public and make us feel the fullness that only a charismatic person could offer is his peak at the moment.
I saw him again in 2016 and it still was magic!
SUBLIME MAESTRO INFINITO Y SU ALMA UNIDA A SU ESPOSA ALISSA KEZERADZE..CELESTIALES..GRAXIEEE MONSEÑOR..
Thank you very much for this video of Ivo Pogorelich who is an extraordinary pianist and remarkably intelligent musician.
И очень доброму интересному Человеку. ❤
Dragi dragi Pogorelic
Génialissime version !!!
Очень люблю Иво Погорелича ! Его слушать всегда интересно.
Не знаю почему, но это мое любимое исполнение первого концерта Чайковского. Спасибо огромное за видео!
Even if aliens, who have evolved millions tear longer than us, arrive here and here this tune, they surely would be impressed. This is music for the gods!
If aliens would be impressed with anything it would surely be Bach!
Wow Mikhail Pletnev como director e Ivo Pogorelich. Dos grandes Pianistas ;)
Очень тяжело играет, "печатными буквами"
👎
Merci pour cette belle prestation...déja 25 ans...mais il est revenu!...
Absolutely wonderful!
Браво, Иво, чудесно!
Браво, Алиса!
Bellissima essecuzione. Bravo, Maestro Pogorelich!
Чайковского трудно испортить!
Послушайте мацуева.
Иво Погорелич за роялем МАГ и ВОЛШЕБНИК. 🌹🔥❤️🥀💐🔥🌹🎵🎶🌼💐🌺🏵️
Любимый Иво!!!😍💥❤ Гениально!!!!👏👏👏
Perfection !!!!
Beautiful! So nice to hear it sound lyrical and intimate, like a chamber work, not drowned in reverb and pedal. Listen with earphones (because mics are far away).
ポトレリッチは若いころからファンでした。映像が残ってる事に感謝します。ありがとうございます。
포고렐리치는 천재
피아노의 정수를 꿰뚫는 진정한
예술가
I have heard the very same piece by several artists, Pogorelich's version has to be one of the best, briliant and rebellious.
Hvala Hvala pozdrav iz grada Paga
Браво, Погорелич !Очень нравится !
so beautiful!!!
omg...the conductor is Pletnev? no way... this performance is outstanding. grazie mille!
Pletnev turned to conducting like many others....Only Barenboim managed to manage the two directions.
Оркестр звучит вязко, замедленно...((
I believe that Pletnev and Pogorelich are close personal friends, having overlapped at the Moscow conservatory
38:30 that octave alone explains how good he is lmao
There is a kind of note by note clarity about his playing that sometimes obscures the language of the whole phrase; an intense concentration on each note individually that leaves the listener without the cue to the texture of the containing phrase; a portrait painting with technically perfect brush strokes, color choices, shaping of light and shadow....but where’s Mona?
It’s not a criticism. I love his playing and I hear different things every time I listen because of the translucent clarity of his technique. Then I listen to Lipatti, who also had the perfection and control, but then the music can bring tears to my eyes. Example: Chopin Barcarolle. Zimmerman gets close but not there. Rubinstein gets there but technically not as good and that distracts. Pogorelich gets there with Scarlatti and almost there with the Liszt B mi sonata, and other pianists have their zeniths, but Lipatti gets there for me with everything he plays. It might be that his playing is not exposed to the rigors of modern precision sound technology. Who knows.
But this Croatian genius was never properly recognized because he isn’t charismatic in the way that sways juries, even those comprising his greatest piers. Martha Argerich saw it in him and resigned in protest against the foggy-eyed mediocrity of her fellow judges.
Go for a trip, Ivo, recapture some of that joie de vivre and wow me yet again.
nice comment
Then you won't like Weissenberg either....but check out Pogo's colossal Brahms Intermezzi......Greetings from San Agustinillo, Oaxaca!
David, I think you hit a right note here; a subtle and a very precise note. But I still like him; I still think he is capable or reaching depths unattainable to anyone else.
Predrag-Peter Ilich he remains a wonderful and such intelligent pianist, a splendid great gift to us all.
Piano playing of the highest standard...😊He even had hair then...
This is THE Tchaikovsi to remember.Check his studio recording with Claudio Abbado and the London S O.Even more astonishing!
Fantastic recording - for a VHS especially!
Prelepo! 👌👏🥰
Bravo Amico !! Grazie !!
A truly great pianist in his early years...
Yes, a truely rare gem, recorded on video. A full concerto.
Perfect.
The orchestra was very good so I got curious about the orchestra and the conductor. And just before the 2nd movement began, the camera showed the face of the conductor and it was surprisingly Mikhail Pletnev. The orchestra must be the Russian National Orchestra.
.This concerto was tiring me from other pianist until I saw this one.See the way he pedals on EACH note.Best version yet is his studio recording with Abbado and the London Symphony orchestra here on YT.
wow thank you so so SO much sherlock wow i never would of known!!
👏👏👏🌹 Bravo
I like the way he change the height of the seat at 3:45 !
It's so remarkable!
.......that final movement!! Oh my God!
Tchaikovsky is my number one classical composer. Such a variety!
Wait til you hear "Cherevichki".....Start with just the last 6 minutes......
This guy is so good at interpretation
Como siempre este concierto me hace vibrar. Qué obra magnífica, pasan los años y suena cada vez mejor. Qué diafrute.😊❤
he's a genius☝️
THE BOSS
Вже 30 років після дититнства думав, що Чайковський не зможе мене зачепити. Але Іво і давно всім відомому зумів знайти Своє Нове. Це як колись було з Й.С.Бах і А.Вівальді : що там грати - Скука! Браво, Погореліч!
thank you!!
😍😍😍😍😍
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Like the way he adjusted the stool to play the double octaves in first movement developement...he forgot to readjust it...😕!Truly wonderful playing.Sadly,he peaked early.Hey,who's complaining??He provided much excitement & pleasure in his early days.How many people can one say that about?😕
andrew kennaugh
And what exactly have YOU contributed to music?
Everyone seems to forget that his peak was before his wife passed away
The man who knows how to love is never lost. God does not abandon him either. The power of the artist to convey his feelings to the public and make us feel the fullness that only a charismatic person could offer is his peak at the moment.
@@akanatsouli Your words resonate. I have loved Pogorelich since the first day I knew of him, as far back as the early 80s. And, however wayward at an interpretative level his playing might have become, I have always learned from him. he digs deep, very deep, to that region where eve the soul can sometimes be out of tune with itself. But as you say, he who knows of Love is never lost, for does Love return as to Love, the Truth of Who We Are. Bless you, Aleka!
Please, submit a complete information about the recording (such as What orchestra is playing).
revelatory
Was his personal loss a transformative experience that changed him. I’m sure not entirely because one catches little oddities in his playing, although when not too obvious or numerous they can be interesting and even enhancing to the performance.
He is still around and, my having just come from a joe rogan podcast with Michael pollan on psychedelics I’m wondering what a properly supervised psilocybin experience might do to Ivo. Something happened to him and there seems to me to have been an Asperger phenotype already there in him that let loose a different artist. He’s a genius and things can happen to disturb the delicate power and beauty of genius, sort of like drying out plant trichomes incorrectly and expecting to get the terpenes back by just rehydrating them. Ain’t going to happen. On the other hand, if one could add them back by reenergizing the DNA transcription from whence they came, perhaps one could restore the greatness.
Maybe I’ll get lucky and receive a troll-free reply that means something.
There's probably nothing wrong with you, you believe, that a little Prozac and a polo-mallet wouldn't cure....and that this same règimen might help the Maestro as well.......
O cemu vi to? Ne preterujte!!!
Mani fisicamente sovrumane
I love how after the orchestral intro he decided it wasn't fast enough and singlehandedly raised the tempo for the whole orchestra AND the conductor... poor conductor 😂😂
And not to mention the constant rubato xDDD
His hammers are made for this piece.
I think Pogorelich is very interesting here but I'm not sure Pletnev was ideal for this.. or maybe Pletnev did his best to go along with Pogorelich's own timing, or did Pletnev slowed him down too much I don't know... I'm so used to Horowitz/Walter that I can't help but find this a bit spineless. Maybe I shouldn't compare. They must have played it exactly the way they intended to.
Wonderful!It would be hard to imagine this in a better performance(including Richter and Martha Argerich).How does one go from being a truly great artist to becoming an oddity?
Very sad.
andrew kennaugh his wife passed away in 1996 that’s why
Ivo was diagnosed with rheumatic fever when he was young, later hepatities that lingered for years. Check out both online and what they did to his body!!!!
His wife passed away from liver cancer., it was horrific, as she was dying, he kissed her and black blood splattered all over his face!!!
Everyone should listen to his performance of Chopin 4 scherzi 1994 in Napoli, also 1990 performance May 7, at Carnegie Hall!!!
Please read comments on the May 7th, 1994 performance!!
Lena McGinnis black blood from where ? Her face ?
@@ciararespect4296 Her mouth.
very musical but honestly (don't judge) I miss the barnstorming in the famous octave passages. I mean, at some level people only listen to this concerto for those passages, *right* 🙂
Wrong
Is that a C. Bechstein?
最初のピアノの豪快な和音の連続。中村紘子とニコライエワは、「上半身の反動を使って演奏しなければならない。」生徒に向かって教えていたのだ。それは、単に、私には無理だと言っていたに過ぎない。
Come è successo che non suona più come da giovane?
Supone la renovación del pianismo ruso por la irrupción refulgente de una nueva lectura: es como el paso de la televisión en blanco y negro a la televisión en color.
Grazie! What conductor?
Mikahil Pletnev
40 minutes for Tschaikofsky 1??
you gay or what?
Pletnev ^^
what's with the crowd and their non-stop coughing? I've seen badly behaved audiences before but these guys take it to another level with their incessant coughing! and Ivo hates it when audiences cough during performance too.
it is so big sound ,He had the risk of cutting the piano strings
There’s a video wher he does that, in a live performance of Chopin scherzo n. 3.
Russian National Orchestra?
Ivo Pogorelich should meditate what Alfred Brendel said about the interpreter : "All our talent and our sensibility are in the service of the composer, the real creator. It does not belong to us to tell him what he should have written, but to understand what he wrote - and to imagine what he would have been able to write but to which he preferred another fork."
This is especially true for his very personal interpretation of this concerto.
That's why Brendel is so boring! May I recommend you read the article "We Are Playing Classical Music All Wrong" by Clive Brown, Professor of Applied Musicology at University of Leeds. Also some reading of accounts by and about musicians and composers of classical music, in their time would be useful. Pogorelich is doing what a great musician would do. He is " Interpreting" not just reading a score.
Each era has its artistic criteria for interpretation, and it is a very open debate as to how far an interpreter can take liberties with the text.
We know the anecdote of Liszt who took great liberties in interpreting one of Chopin's works in his presence, and that Chopin disavowed telling him to play what he had written or otherwise not to play the work.
Personally I am not a maniac for the absolute respect of the text, but when a composer indicates a tempo
"Allegro" and that the interpreter plays "Adagio", I think that he betrays the composer's thought. Similarly when he makes huge "ritardandos" not written on the score. That's what Pogorelich does with this concerto.
Tempi are also rather relative unless there is a metronome tempo written, and even then... All music that was put on paper was meant to be re played by someone other than the composer therefore it will have the imprint of the interpreter, as it should be and composers knew that. As for taking liberties,, there are accounts of many musicians doing that, just think of Bach and his contemporaries where being able to improvise was a MUST! Today musicians don't do it mostly because they don't have the capacity to do it. As for tastes, indeed we live in the mass production age and music didn't escape. So most classical music you hear today is like out a a production line... all the same, boxed in, lifeless reproduction of a score, with no personality. Torture to listen to and not fall asleep! IMO Pogorelich does exactly the opposite. He keeps one very much focused and immersed in the music and makes on travel, all in good taste.
I agree that tempi are very relative. How fast must be an Allegro or how slow must be an Andante is often a question of personal feeling. But here this is not the problem. At bar 359 (12:36) the composer indicates on the score "a tempo", so he asks to return to the preceding tempo after a ritardando two bars earlier. And this tempo is "Allegro". But here Pogorelich after a massive ritardando goes on with a very slow tempo, obviously more an Adagio than an Allegro. Maybe this dreamy and meditative mood given by Pogorelich for this passage can be telling for some, but it is not what Tchaikovsky wanted.
I would add that I rarely heard an introduction so ponderously played by the pianist, with a noticeable change of tempo at 1:00
You doughnut.Get a life...😕
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차이코프스키1번은 이보포고렐리치것이다
Ma è Pletnev a dirigere, corpo di mille balene!
中村紘子が、コンクール入賞歴のある連中に、冒頭部分の和音の強打に対して、「身体全体で、和音を叩いた反発力を使い、次のポジションに移動し、強打に持って行く。」のような事を、レッスンしていた。ニコラーエワは見事にやっていた。ポゴレリッチは反発力も移動も、配慮していない。技術が違い過ぎる。配慮しているのは、和音の縦構造が横に流れて行くと言う、常識的で低レヴェルの事だ。殆どのピアニストは、それがやれない。リヒテルやギレリスは、別。彼の弾く平均率が聴きたかった。
Yes, of course! But, what did you say? Please, speak in portuguese kkkkkkkk
What happened to this fabulous pianist... his playing today is eccentric and actually horrible!
Absolutely right.This concerto was tiring me from other pianist until I saw this one.See the way he pedals on EACH note.Best version yet is his studio recording with Abbado and the London Symphony orchestra here on YT.
you gay or what. you could be nothin but gay
Why does this sensitive and intense pianist waste his energy on this stupid concerto?
you gay?
Even Solomon played it. Can't be that bad.
I suppose it was a formality at the time.