Phones ping all the time... when making a call, receiving a call, moving into the range of a tower and just intermittently on a timed basis... The Filth was asked at an early presser whether it had accessed Kiely's call log and they refused to answer. It would be useful to know why the phone pinged, for sure.
If le had a video/picture of Kiely at the party wearing Odd Future sweatshirt why didn't they put that out as last known image of her? Why didn't anyone from the campground area who were camping & not at the party where Kiely was last seen come forward in interview on News?
Hella nuggies from Twitter. Thank you Ara. It kills me with them saying the phone “Ping”. And no they didn’t ping it at 12:30. That had to have been the last known location by either Life 360 or Find my iPhone. And yes if a phone is turned off it can be pinged. Thanks again for finding these nuggets.
These deffently are wolfs hiding among the sheep and they are going to come to the light and I really think that they are definitely hiding in plan site and God bless you for always thinking out side of the box Ara and Army4Jesus, Skirrels on fire, Lala, and maybe way that Kielys Mom excepted Kielys disappearance and because she knows something about how the law works in Truckee California 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
If the aerial searches used LiDAR or IR, forget it. Those are not useful for finding submerged vehicles. IR can help if the car is still warm, obviously. To the best of my knowledge, if you want to find a car submerged you need a magnetometer, or sonar (fish finders use sonar). The 12:30 ping is pretty much useless, when you think about it. It tells us nothing. It could have been on land or in the water. It may not have been the last ping. Wow, what a revelation! Also, what about the other pings that the phone emitted up until 12:30? Do we have a list of those? No, of course we don't. BTW, why has nobody mentioned the fact that Kiely went to Twin Ridges Home Charter as well as Forest Charter? And do we have any photos of Kiely on stage? CNY Family did show some photos which were supposedly of Kiely but it wasn't her.
Yes, the idea that Kiely's (phone), movements prior to, during and after the party are a mystery is clearly nonsense. The public has been given nothing... a cropped cctv still, a vague story about a ping time (but not the precise location), and an autopsy report. The Filth won't confirm the firecams' authenticity, nor anything else, which allows maximum flexibility when constructing a narrative... no inconvenient facts to point in a different direction.
often people bring up Kiely's age for the secrecy but compare it to other cases like the secrecy with Gabby Petito... Gabby was 22 so why secrecy there!? Most Surveillance Footage never released to this day and only the Whole-Foods footage released about a year later... Millions spent trying to find Brian Laundrie but during that time while he was a Fugitive they never released all the Surveillance Footage obtained! All the Millions spent and they found Diddly Squat until his parents found him as quick as AWP found Kiely! Right where they told Authorities the whole time where he probably was!!
btw, many people mistakenly think lots of info was released but actually almost all of it was pulled off Gabby's 1 YT Video and her other social media accounts... they played the same footage over and over day after day!
Gabby's investigation was officially a homicide and manhunt. Subsequently, it became clear that while there wasn't enough for criminal charges, civil proceedings were a realistic prospect... So, to avoid prejudicing the outcome the Feds said very little. Compare that to this "accident" investigation that has been closed and still all we have in the public domain from official sources is a ping, a cropped cctv image and an autopsy report... I don't think her age has any bearing on the policy of secrecy... it's a pattern that's been pursued from Day 1.
That PCSO statement at 5:04 in your video is key to me... jibes with the very first missing person poster put out by Secret Witness (a Reno nonprofit, I understand) and it said (I paraphrase): "Kiely was last seen in Truckee driving a silver CRV". Hmm.
Ara, As I understand it out phones are constantly pinging off whatever tower is close to us at the time & that's how our GPS/maps apps work when we are driving. You don't have to be using your phone or maps at the time, it's just an automatic function. I'm not sure but there probably is a setting to turn that feature off. I also don't know if ur phone keeps pinging when it's turned off or dead from no charge.
@@WithAraR It's quite important... Angry Angela claimed that they had video, but had she seen it, or just been told they had it? Given the contrived language of the announcement on 14 August ("we have developed information," etc), one has to be sceptical, particularly as their source may have been Westfall's claims to have accessed Kiely's snapchat.
@@WithAraR I can't say I can recall, I think it was, but I can't confirm that. I was about to say we need a transcript from Ara of all the press releases - then realised I'm talking to you 😂
I could be wrong or missing something entirely but the phone ping in my opinion is irrelevant in knowing what happened to kiely and really only useful in the search of finding her or her phone and doesn’t give any evidence of what occurred or how it got there???? Like the phone could ping in New York at a specific adress or location at a certain time on a certain date but what does that provide to the investigation of how or why it pinged then and there or anything relating to actions of the phones owner? It can’t even provide proof that the owner was in possession of the phone during any of its pings, so I don’t even put any value on information pertaining to phone pings unless it is to locate the phone or a person associated with the phone which has already been done. We found her so what further information can a phone ping provide????🤷♀️
It depends on why the phone pinged... was a call made or received from Kiely's phone? If so, to or from whom? And what was said? Information that we aren't likely to be given, but pertinent all the same.
@@Radagast- ahh, I see said the blind man, thanks a ton cause I was really stumped as to what information can be obtained other than location from a phone ping, but that makes sense if we are talking theoretically and finding out who called or text who when and content of exchanges, although I don’t think that really falls under pings and maybe more under forensic data recovery but helpful all the same so I really appreciate it and thank you for making me use my brain. After years and years of substance abuse I often forget to do so ❤️
@@spun1that1girl Another issue concerns the firecams... If one has a ping time and location and two firecams pointing at the location at the pertinent time, then one might utilise this information to recover a vehicle that appears to have entered the Lake at that time. Especially if one was constantly complaining that one had no leads...
@@Radagast- if I’m recalling correct an expert spoke regarding the fire cams and said there is absolutely no way the cameras they have in place could generate an image sufficient to distinguish vehicles, people, etc. and we’re only used to detect heat(fire) but I cannot for the life of me remember where I heard it because I knew the second they released the so called “fire cam” video that it was bogus due to who released it and the timing…. Bug that’s just my opinion, I’m by no means qualified to speak about electronics or photography or any of that, I just have a hard time believing the FBI and home land security and all those highly skilled specialized people just somehow overlooked that kind of important evidence while searching for a girl on government land🤷♀️
@@spun1that1girl That's fair... I don't think much of Fischer, either. But the firecams pick up light and it's difficult to see that as anything other than a set of vehicle headlights going way out into the Lake, before disappearing... Note that The Filth has acknowledged the existence of the footage, but has remained silent as to whether it's authentic, much less have they commented on what it appears to show. For me, it gives me a massive stick with which to beat Smith, Pekarek and The Filth. For that reason I am inclined to think it's legit, because if you're going to fake it, then you do it in such a way as to leave everyone in the clear. PS Don't forget: PCSO was running the show at that time... the Feds were there by invitation. The FBI could've pulled rank, but didn't, which may explain things.
when a person accidentally butt dials 911 without knowing, dispatch can PING that phone back to get an EXACT location, if it was a real emergency !!
exactly
Phones ping all the time... when making a call, receiving a call, moving into the range of a tower and just intermittently on a timed basis...
The Filth was asked at an early presser whether it had accessed Kiely's call log and they refused to answer. It would be useful to know why the phone pinged, for sure.
If le had a video/picture of Kiely at the party wearing Odd Future sweatshirt why didn't they put that out as last known image of her? Why didn't anyone from the campground area who were camping & not at the party where Kiely was last seen come forward in interview on News?
Yup that's what I'm saying
@@WithAraR Wasn't the party at The Sanctuary? It is near the CG but not in the CG
Hella nuggies from Twitter. Thank you Ara.
It kills me with them saying the phone “Ping”. And no they didn’t ping it at 12:30. That had to have been the last known location by either Life 360 or Find my iPhone. And yes if a phone is turned off it can be pinged. Thanks again for finding these nuggets.
Phones can't be pinged AFAIK.
I hope this helps anyone with research
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These deffently are wolfs hiding among the sheep and they are going to come to the light and I really think that they are definitely hiding in plan site and God bless you for always thinking out side of the box Ara and Army4Jesus, Skirrels on fire, Lala, and maybe way that Kielys Mom excepted Kielys disappearance and because she knows something about how the law works in Truckee California 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
I think mom paid Sami to set up what happened to Kiely, but not sure if it may have gone further than plan or not.
Some great shorts and love te format, quick concise, questioning…… #justiceforkiely
Thank you I'm glad it was useful!
If the aerial searches used LiDAR or IR, forget it. Those are not useful for finding submerged vehicles. IR can help if the car is still warm, obviously. To the best of my knowledge, if you want to find a car submerged you need a magnetometer, or sonar (fish finders use sonar).
The 12:30 ping is pretty much useless, when you think about it. It tells us nothing. It could have been on land or in the water. It may not have been the last ping. Wow, what a revelation!
Also, what about the other pings that the phone emitted up until 12:30? Do we have a list of those? No, of course we don't.
BTW, why has nobody mentioned the fact that Kiely went to Twin Ridges Home Charter as well as Forest Charter? And do we have any photos of Kiely on stage? CNY Family did show some photos which were supposedly of Kiely but it wasn't her.
Yes, the idea that Kiely's (phone), movements prior to, during and after the party are a mystery is clearly nonsense.
The public has been given nothing... a cropped cctv still, a vague story about a ping time (but not the precise location), and an autopsy report.
The Filth won't confirm the firecams' authenticity, nor anything else, which allows maximum flexibility when constructing a narrative... no inconvenient facts to point in a different direction.
often people bring up Kiely's age for the secrecy but compare it to other cases like the secrecy with Gabby Petito... Gabby was 22 so why secrecy there!? Most Surveillance Footage never released to this day and only the Whole-Foods footage released about a year later... Millions spent trying to find Brian Laundrie but during that time while he was a Fugitive they never released all the Surveillance Footage obtained! All the Millions spent and they found Diddly Squat until his parents found him as quick as AWP found Kiely! Right where they told Authorities the whole time where he probably was!!
btw, many people mistakenly think lots of info was released but actually almost all of it was pulled off Gabby's 1 YT Video and her other social media accounts... they played the same footage over and over day after day!
Huforic do you know about numerology,if you look at the numbers this case becomes quite transparent
@@Crosshatch1212 Do you mean about the number 17?
Gabby's investigation was officially a homicide and manhunt. Subsequently, it became clear that while there wasn't enough for criminal charges, civil proceedings were a realistic prospect... So, to avoid prejudicing the outcome the Feds said very little.
Compare that to this "accident" investigation that has been closed and still all we have in the public domain from official sources is a ping, a cropped cctv image and an autopsy report...
I don't think her age has any bearing on the policy of secrecy... it's a pattern that's been pursued from Day 1.
@@Crosshatch1212 please elaborate because if you’re thinking like I’m thinking….
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That PCSO statement at 5:04 in your video is key to me... jibes with the very first missing person poster put out by Secret Witness (a Reno nonprofit, I understand) and it said (I paraphrase): "Kiely was last seen in Truckee driving a silver CRV". Hmm.
Yes it could have been a mistake but Idk
I believe the reason she wasn't located before AWP, is because she was not there.
that is a theory
Ara, As I understand it out phones are constantly pinging off whatever tower is close to us at the time & that's how our GPS/maps apps work when we are driving. You don't have to be using your phone or maps at the time, it's just an automatic function. I'm not sure but there probably is a setting to turn that feature off. I also don't know if ur phone keeps pinging when it's turned off or dead from no charge.
Flight mode turns it off.
Btw, when PCSO replied "yes," what was the precise wording of the question?
I am assuming someone asking if She was at the party. this is where I do say in the video i'm not exactly sure
@@WithAraR It's quite important... Angry Angela claimed that they had video, but had she seen it, or just been told they had it? Given the contrived language of the announcement on 14 August ("we have developed information," etc), one has to be sceptical, particularly as their source may have been Westfall's claims to have accessed Kiely's snapchat.
@@Radagast- exactly!!!
this would have to be in a police report, they would have to obtain kielys phone number for this !
right!
I thought I heard them say it was a Snapchat ping.
I heard that somewhere too. Do you remember if it was in the press conference?
@@WithAraR I can't say I can recall, I think it was, but I can't confirm that. I was about to say we need a transcript from Ara of all the press releases - then realised I'm talking to you 😂
@@papersongs3482 lol maybe I need to do more research
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@@WithAraR and Hi Ara and it is going on 4:00 o'clock in the morning here in Saginaw Michigan 😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀
What other phone pings from that area?
Definitely would be interesting to know but I bet that info is not coming out.
good question
@@WithAraR I bet ELON MUSK knows. And he OWNS the cloud. I bet he would believe in the cause. #JUSTICE FOR KIELY.
I could be wrong or missing something entirely but the phone ping in my opinion is irrelevant in knowing what happened to kiely and really only useful in the search of finding her or her phone and doesn’t give any evidence of what occurred or how it got there???? Like the phone could ping in New York at a specific adress or location at a certain time on a certain date but what does that provide to the investigation of how or why it pinged then and there or anything relating to actions of the phones owner? It can’t even provide proof that the owner was in possession of the phone during any of its pings, so I don’t even put any value on information pertaining to phone pings unless it is to locate the phone or a person associated with the phone which has already been done. We found her so what further information can a phone ping provide????🤷♀️
It depends on why the phone pinged... was a call made or received from Kiely's phone? If so, to or from whom? And what was said?
Information that we aren't likely to be given, but pertinent all the same.
@@Radagast- ahh, I see said the blind man, thanks a ton cause I was really stumped as to what information can be obtained other than location from a phone ping, but that makes sense if we are talking theoretically and finding out who called or text who when and content of exchanges, although I don’t think that really falls under pings and maybe more under forensic data recovery but helpful all the same so I really appreciate it and thank you for making me use my brain. After years and years of substance abuse I often forget to do so ❤️
@@spun1that1girl Another issue concerns the firecams... If one has a ping time and location and two firecams pointing at the location at the pertinent time, then one might utilise this information to recover a vehicle that appears to have entered the Lake at that time.
Especially if one was constantly complaining that one had no leads...
@@Radagast- if I’m recalling correct an expert spoke regarding the fire cams and said there is absolutely no way the cameras they have in place could generate an image sufficient to distinguish vehicles, people, etc. and we’re only used to detect heat(fire) but I cannot for the life of me remember where I heard it because I knew the second they released the so called “fire cam” video that it was bogus due to who released it and the timing…. Bug that’s just my opinion, I’m by no means qualified to speak about electronics or photography or any of that, I just have a hard time believing the FBI and home land security and all those highly skilled specialized people just somehow overlooked that kind of important evidence while searching for a girl on government land🤷♀️
@@spun1that1girl That's fair... I don't think much of Fischer, either. But the firecams pick up light and it's difficult to see that as anything other than a set of vehicle headlights going way out into the Lake, before disappearing...
Note that The Filth has acknowledged the existence of the footage, but has remained silent as to whether it's authentic, much less have they commented on what it appears to show. For me, it gives me a massive stick with which to beat Smith, Pekarek and The Filth. For that reason I am inclined to think it's legit, because if you're going to fake it, then you do it in such a way as to leave everyone in the clear.
PS Don't forget: PCSO was running the show at that time... the Feds were there by invitation. The FBI could've pulled rank, but didn't, which may explain things.