Brian... your videos are great and informative... My priest said something awesome this weekend when I was talking to him... Asked him what he thought of gay marriage and he said "two people of any sex, committed to each other can only strengthen marriage... divorce is the only thing that destroys it." I was so proud to hear someone within that institution say that. Maybe there is hope even there. Great Vid!
I feel you on the 2-hour commute. I also commute 2 hours every day to work. It's rough, but fortunately I take a train most of the way so I can sleep or read a book or whatever.
You were VERY informative in your explaination!!! You only "rambled" a little at the very end!! Thanks for posting and for your explaination. Love your videos!!!
Thanks for making this video. I used the information you provided as a starting point for conversations with my parents and siblings, who are all really supportive but sometimes don't understand where I am coming from.
I know but you explained in a way I would've never knew. You explain how the executive, legislative, and judicial branches work. Now i know I'll be able to score high on my American government class! Thank you Brian :)
I for sure hope that you are right about Florida. As I live here and it affects not only my life but the lives of many of my friends. I think that we need to get rid of a lot of our current government first.
In this scenario, the previous ruling on Prop 8 made by a lower federal court would be upheld, meaning Prop 8 is overturned. In any case, great video, Brian. Looking forward to more vlogs on interesting topics this month.
Hope and empathy from Canada. I've never fully understood (and still don't) how your government works. I find it conflicting how they claim to be the leaders of the civilized world and yet they fail to adopt basic human rights equally for everyone. Chin up though, it sucks you have to struggle, but you'll get there! Times keep changing and thanks to Vloggers like you, Dan, Davy, Russ & Matt, and all the others awareness and acceptance will keep growing for you guys :)
Thanks for making this video, Brian! So many people I've discussed this topic with have a misunderstanding of the basic facts and I'm glad you presented them unbiasedly. I live in California and I've found that the conversations I've had with people in the past few years about gay marriage have been more favorable than not, which reflects the bit you said about how the "tide is changing" (and thank God!). I think those who actively oppose gay marriage are fighting a battle that's already won! :)
The only thing I think you did not mention in your options for the rulings on Prop 8 is that the SCOTUS may rule that the people appealing the case lack standing to appeal the case, which brings all kinds of options into the mix that will be further down the road.
I think you succeeded in your intentions because I found the video very informative. I knew things were goin' down in the Supreme Court, but I really didn't know exactly what. Now I do :D
Well done for an informative video. Very interesting for those of us across the pond in the UK. The tide also seems to have turned for same sex marriage here as well after our MPs voted in favour of the change in the law. We should be able to get married at some point in 2014! Its interesting to see this trend emerging in the western world as a whole.
1) You didn't answer me, still waiting,,, 2) Like I said start thinking with your own head instead of following instructions. True courage doesn't come from that, it comes from realising something is not right and make a change for the better. 3) I'm so happy that you have spread your wisedom over two videos on UA-cam. Your parents should be so proud but not as much as i am cause at least you found a really good channel to post comments on :) hug from Portugal
The thing is, the Supreme Court would be upholding the decision of the Ninth Circuit Court in your predicted scenario-so it would potentially have an effect on the states which are under the ninth circuit's jurisdiction (if a state in the ninth circuit enacts civil unions).
You are amazing Brian! I want to marry too! I'm just glad get marriage has been passed in england! Best wishes for your votes! Hope gay marriage in the US is passed!
@mochatmh i agree with you on the most likely outcome plus this will allow justice Kennedy and possibly Roberts to toss the case without setting precedence. they can rule it unconstitutional with the only applying to California by rolling the proposition is unconstitutional for marriage issues and can only be enacted by state legislation and governors signature or though state constitutional amendment. this would only effect California and north Carolina.
I love how you broke down our government, I'm taking Political Science right now, and we talked about this, it was the 3rd question in our exam today, Prop 8 and DOMA hahaha
In Prop. 8, the scope of the case is just the proposition so it would only affect California. The constitutionality of the proposition would have implications for other states, but it would never make marriage equality the law of the land.
I live in a very conservative part of C.A and I'm the only one who supports gay marriage in my A.P U.S Gov. and Politics class, so my teacher during our debate let me play your video regarding it, and you saved my ass, so I thank you very much. I'll make sure to play this video as well
This past January, my now husband and I were married in Rochester, New York, however, we live in Ohio, which of course has its own DOMA law. Well, I am praying that I am praying, that if federal DOMA is lifted, that our legal NY marriage will still qualify us for Federal benefits. This is a possibility, but it is also dependent on how the Supreme Court rules. Despite DOMA, I was able to use our marriage certificate to have my last name legally changed as I took his name.
Yeah, you're probably right. I have a feeling the Court won't want to actually rule on marriage equality because then you'd have to assume they would have to enforce the ruling across all states which they're clearly hesitant to do. But if like you say, they'll both be struck down (the prop 8 case reaffirming the lower court's decision) it'll have the same effect as I predicted in the video. I was tired, I forgot the whole jurisdictional part of it.
You go, Brian. You're like the smarter one who actively confronts political issues, Dan's the more carefree one who wonders about everything and goes "I don't know" every 5 seconds. Cute couple!
I'm so glad we're finally getting somewhere with marriage equality in this country. I live in NJ and did Youth in Government my junior year and it was scary how many people my age opposed same-sex marriage. Most of the times for made up reasons. I kid you not "Rome fell out of power because of homosexuals". Yea real argument that was used by a otherwise intelligent person. Great seeing you doing VEDA! Your schedule sounds crazy, but live seeing that you're dedicated :)
The Supreme Court could still abstain from ruling on the Prop 8 case based on the fact the presenters had no standing to bring the case. They sure dwelled on that point during the arguments.
In Puerto Rico we have the same debate, as part of E.U.A. for many years, any decition made by the E.U. Supreme Court is gonna impact in us as well. The opinion from the people is not what really matters. Here we have exactly the same system. We also have our own Supreme Court, but let me said that our Supreme Court do not have more " power " than the E.U. Supreme Court. Is just like any state. NO MATTER WHAT OUR GOVERMENT OR HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVE OR SENATE RULES, The U.S.A. Supreme Court..
Very good info, my wife and I did an equality video (two parts due to a snafu with transferring video) and we're still new to youtube as well, it's all good. And with two kids, we totally get the lack of sleep thing, haha. Way good video and very informative, any chance of a future collab? I think a lot of our view point line up, you and Dan along with my wife and I? Love is love type thing?
There is actually 5 ways prop 8 can be decided not 3. The 3 you mentioned along with they can rule that the people bringing the case aka the pro prop 8 people have no standing to bring the case which would dismiss the case on grounds but not find it unconstitutional but would leave the appeals court ruling that it is so therefore allowing marriage.. but when California gets a republican governor they can take the case back with proper standing and prop 8 can be reinstated.
Hi Brian, i think i found a loophole in "marriage." Generally in America a marriage is conducted by a Christian officiant. But say someone was of a different religion and wanted to have their own officiant conduct their marriage. To put this in my situation: Buddhism views on gays is entirely up to how monks want to teach that subject. And to put that in a marriage situation: The thought of a gay wedding would have to be brought to the attention of a monk if he wanted to conduct it or not.
According to the full faith and credit clause, part of the US constitution, it is unconstitutional for our "legal marriage" from NY not to be honored in OH. If the US Supreme Court allows us to marry in a state where it is legal, and still gain access to the federal benefits regardless of which state we reside in, there will be countless gay Americans running to those states where marriage is legal....
Ultimately this is the most likely outcome. You only have to have 4 judges to accept the case but if the other 5 after arguments say the case should've never been granted on standing it will be tossed. This will allow marriage in only California without making a precedence for a future case. The last option is they can find the law unconditional for based on equal protection of separate not equal as California still allowed civil unions.
The word you are looking for, in regards to religion, and "unions" is Matrimony. Holy Matrimony is the religious joining of two people (generally a male and a female). Marriage, is the Civil contract joining two people (also, generally a male and female, but as is evident now, THAT is changing.)
All I can say about this is that the signs are being seen, the coming of Christ is getting closer and closer. We all need to be ready for when that time comes when the Lord will Judge us all by are acts and doing. God Bless
Be honest, but gentle. You love who you love, and you shouldn't be coerced into anything you don't feel. Explain that you care for him, as a friend, but just don't see him in that way. If he's a good friend, he'll understand, and it will make your friendship stronger. If not, you'll be better off w/o him in your life. Neither of you need that kind of drama. Peace and good luck to you. *hug*
Many are not lead by a church leader. A judge can marry, justice of the peace, even a ship captain at sea. Proponents of same sex marriage pretty much unanimously agree that religious leaders would never be forced to perform marriages that are against his or her faith. Christians and Buddhists would be free to continue their same practices uninterrupted. Besides, as an atheist, I didn't want a priest presiding over my marriage anyway.
I also could make the argument that NOT allowing marriage equality is a violation of a religion which accepts it, If Buddhists believe gas should be allowed the marry and the government says we can not, that is discrimination. The bottom line is, marriage is a CIVIL non secular contract, If a priest performs a ceremony it does NOT make it a legal marriage until they are licensed by the state.
The 1st amendment to the US Constitution specifically prohibits the government from passing any law respecting religion. In 1947 the Supreme Court ruled that this applied to States as well. So while the argument against same-sex marriage is largely driven by the religion right and their discomfort with the idea of two guys pounding each other, they can't legally argue that. Instead they use BS rhetoric like "marriage is an institution to create children" which is obviously nonsense.
Minority rights shouldn't be up to discussion by the general population. All these ballot questions about whether gays should be "allowed" to marry are appalling. It's like I wake up tomorrow and want to debate whether Jews should be allowed to use the same toilets as Gentiles. Let's have a referendum about that!
Brian... your videos are great and informative... My priest said something awesome this weekend when I was talking to him... Asked him what he thought of gay marriage and he said "two people of any sex, committed to each other can only strengthen marriage... divorce is the only thing that destroys it." I was so proud to hear someone within that institution say that. Maybe there is hope even there. Great Vid!
Excellent job Brian. I am cautiously hopeful that the ruling on Prop 8 will be struck down, and DOMA too.
I feel you on the 2-hour commute. I also commute 2 hours every day to work. It's rough, but fortunately I take a train most of the way so I can sleep or read a book or whatever.
Excellent summation of these cases and their importance. Glad you're doing VEDA, Brian. Keep up the great work!
You were VERY informative in your explaination!!! You only "rambled" a little at the very end!! Thanks for posting and for your explaination. Love your videos!!!
THE best explanation I have heard about this situation in the States at the moment- well done Brian !
Well articulated Brian! You did your homework on this one and presentation was very good. Thanks for sharing.
You summed that up quite brilliantly Brian.Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for making this video. I used the information you provided as a starting point for conversations with my parents and siblings, who are all really supportive but sometimes don't understand where I am coming from.
Brian.... who knew you could talk so much!! Very informative and interesting.... well said
I know but you explained in a way I would've never knew. You explain how the executive, legislative, and judicial branches work. Now i know I'll be able to score high on my American government class! Thank you Brian :)
I for sure hope that you are right about Florida. As I live here and it affects not only my life but the lives of many of my friends. I think that we need to get rid of a lot of our current government first.
Thank you so much for explaining the issue thoroughly and clearly!
Thank you for taking your time to film this!
Well said....as a Canadian I actually learned a lot from your vid....keep up the good work
In this scenario, the previous ruling on Prop 8 made by a lower federal court would be upheld, meaning Prop 8 is overturned.
In any case, great video, Brian. Looking forward to more vlogs on interesting topics this month.
I've learned so much from this vlog. I like these current event talks!
that was informative .......... the vlog is fast becomming my favourite ...... cant wait for tomorrow
Hope and empathy from Canada. I've never fully understood (and still don't) how your government works. I find it conflicting how they claim to be the leaders of the civilized world and yet they fail to adopt basic human rights equally for everyone. Chin up though, it sucks you have to struggle, but you'll get there! Times keep changing and thanks to Vloggers like you, Dan, Davy, Russ & Matt, and all the others awareness and acceptance will keep growing for you guys :)
Thanks for making this video, Brian! So many people I've discussed this topic with have a misunderstanding of the basic facts and I'm glad you presented them unbiasedly. I live in California and I've found that the conversations I've had with people in the past few years about gay marriage have been more favorable than not, which reflects the bit you said about how the "tide is changing" (and thank God!). I think those who actively oppose gay marriage are fighting a battle that's already won! :)
i could listen to you lecture all day!
All citizens of the U.S. should have the Constitutional right to marry one another regardless. Great video Brian..
Awesome job, Brian.
I really like this! Great job! I really wanted someone to inform me on all of the jazz. THANKS!
Well done Brian!
I freaking love you Brian!!!!!!
Nicely done - you hold yourself to such a high standard - know you can just make a 3 minute rant on the train and we will love you
Awwww maybe you and Dan getting married so cute! Great video! Look forward to seeing more VEDA action!
You actually did very well explaining it...well done!
The only thing I think you did not mention in your options for the rulings on Prop 8 is that the SCOTUS may rule that the people appealing the case lack standing to appeal the case, which brings all kinds of options into the mix that will be further down the road.
Cool vid Brian keep it up. Even in the UK we are watching the rulings outcome to. Whats the big yellow sign in the background?
good job on the explanation. You have come a long way from the first couple of video's. nice.
I got married to my husband in San Francisco in 2008 before Prop 8 was passed and was heartbroken when it came to be.
I have to agree with you, I have no clue how marrying someone is going to hurt anyone else or my neighbors.
GREAT clear and concise explanation!!
I think you succeeded in your intentions because I found the video very informative. I knew things were goin' down in the Supreme Court, but I really didn't know exactly what. Now I do :D
Well done for an informative video. Very interesting for those of us across the pond in the UK. The tide also seems to have turned for same sex marriage here as well after our MPs voted in favour of the change in the law. We should be able to get married at some point in 2014! Its interesting to see this trend emerging in the western world as a whole.
1) You didn't answer me, still waiting,,,
2) Like I said start thinking with your own head instead of following instructions. True courage doesn't come from that, it comes from realising something is not right and make a change for the better.
3) I'm so happy that you have spread your wisedom over two videos on UA-cam. Your parents should be so proud but not as much as i am cause at least you found a really good channel to post comments on :)
hug from Portugal
The thing is, the Supreme Court would be upholding the decision of the Ninth Circuit Court in your predicted scenario-so it would potentially have an effect on the states which are under the ninth circuit's jurisdiction (if a state in the ninth circuit enacts civil unions).
great explanation of everything!
thanks so much for braking it down it clears alot up
Brian..your AMAZING
I agree with your predictions Brian; I felt the same myself. Btw do you know what the significance of the color red is with the campaign?
You are amazing Brian! I want to marry too! I'm just glad get marriage has been passed in england! Best wishes for your votes! Hope gay marriage in the US is passed!
@mochatmh i agree with you on the most likely outcome plus this will allow justice Kennedy and possibly Roberts to toss the case without setting precedence. they can rule it unconstitutional with the only applying to California by rolling the proposition is unconstitutional for marriage issues and can only be enacted by state legislation and governors signature or though state constitutional amendment. this would only effect California and north Carolina.
I love how you broke down our government, I'm taking Political Science right now, and we talked about this, it was the 3rd question in our exam today, Prop 8 and DOMA hahaha
super informative!! Every time someone asks me about it i just send them the link to the video lol
In Prop. 8, the scope of the case is just the proposition so it would only affect California. The constitutionality of the proposition would have implications for other states, but it would never make marriage equality the law of the land.
I live in a very conservative part of C.A and I'm the only one who supports gay marriage in my A.P U.S Gov. and Politics class, so my teacher during our debate let me play your video regarding it, and you saved my ass, so I thank you very much. I'll make sure to play this video as well
This past January, my now husband and I were married in Rochester, New York, however, we live in Ohio, which of course has its own DOMA law. Well, I am praying that I am praying, that if federal DOMA is lifted, that our legal NY marriage will still qualify us for Federal benefits. This is a possibility, but it is also dependent on how the Supreme Court rules. Despite DOMA, I was able to use our marriage certificate to have my last name legally changed as I took his name.
Good job on this!
Yeah, you're probably right. I have a feeling the Court won't want to actually rule on marriage equality because then you'd have to assume they would have to enforce the ruling across all states which they're clearly hesitant to do. But if like you say, they'll both be struck down (the prop 8 case reaffirming the lower court's decision) it'll have the same effect as I predicted in the video. I was tired, I forgot the whole jurisdictional part of it.
You go, Brian. You're like the smarter one who actively confronts political issues, Dan's the more carefree one who wonders about everything and goes "I don't know" every 5 seconds. Cute couple!
Your icon for this video is amazeballs.
Wow. Great video man.
I'm so glad we're finally getting somewhere with marriage equality in this country. I live in NJ and did Youth in Government my junior year and it was scary how many people my age opposed same-sex marriage. Most of the times for made up reasons. I kid you not "Rome fell out of power because of homosexuals". Yea real argument that was used by a otherwise intelligent person. Great seeing you doing VEDA! Your schedule sounds crazy, but live seeing that you're dedicated :)
100% agree with everything said in this video and yes this was very informative and i think people really need to know.
It's April 4 now, and still no veda 3
The Supreme Court could still abstain from ruling on the Prop 8 case based on the fact the presenters had no standing to bring the case. They sure dwelled on that point during the arguments.
Have you popped the question to Dan? Same-sex marriage is legal in Connecticut and New York, so you two are in luck! Go for it!!!
That was really interesting, thank you :)
You explained better than my American Government teacher :)
In Puerto Rico we have the same debate, as part of E.U.A. for many years, any decition made by the E.U. Supreme Court is gonna impact in us as well. The opinion from the people is not what really matters. Here we have exactly the same system. We also have our own Supreme Court, but let me said that our Supreme Court do not have more " power " than the E.U. Supreme Court. Is just like any state. NO MATTER WHAT OUR GOVERMENT OR HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVE OR SENATE RULES, The U.S.A. Supreme Court..
Very good info, my wife and I did an equality video (two parts due to a snafu with transferring video) and we're still new to youtube as well, it's all good. And with two kids, we totally get the lack of sleep thing, haha. Way good video and very informative, any chance of a future collab? I think a lot of our view point line up, you and Dan along with my wife and I? Love is love type thing?
Oh...well now I just feel oblivious.
Love this vid!
You are smart...ANd a great guy
It just represents love.
That was very interesting to watch. Now I know more about that stuff :P
There is actually 5 ways prop 8 can be decided not 3. The 3 you mentioned along with they can rule that the people bringing the case aka the pro prop 8 people have no standing to bring the case which would dismiss the case on grounds but not find it unconstitutional but would leave the appeals court ruling that it is so therefore allowing marriage.. but when California gets a republican governor they can take the case back with proper standing and prop 8 can be reinstated.
A lot of people think the divorce rate for our country will go up to much.
Hi Brian, i think i found a loophole in "marriage." Generally in America a marriage is conducted by a Christian officiant. But say someone was of a different religion and wanted to have their own officiant conduct their marriage. To put this in my situation: Buddhism views on gays is entirely up to how monks want to teach that subject. And to put that in a marriage situation: The thought of a gay wedding would have to be brought to the attention of a monk if he wanted to conduct it or not.
You are one smart guy!
According to the full faith and credit clause, part of the US constitution, it is unconstitutional for our "legal marriage" from NY not to be honored in OH. If the US Supreme Court allows us to marry in a state where it is legal, and still gain access to the federal benefits regardless of which state we reside in, there will be countless gay Americans running to those states where marriage is legal....
Ultimately this is the most likely outcome. You only have to have 4 judges to accept the case but if the other 5 after arguments say the case should've never been granted on standing it will be tossed. This will allow marriage in only California without making a precedence for a future case. The last option is they can find the law unconditional for based on equal protection of separate not equal as California still allowed civil unions.
The word you are looking for, in regards to religion, and "unions" is Matrimony. Holy Matrimony is the religious joining of two people (generally a male and a female). Marriage, is the Civil contract joining two people (also, generally a male and female, but as is evident now, THAT is changing.)
bravo!
All I can say about this is that the signs are being seen, the coming of Christ is getting closer and closer. We all need to be ready for when that time comes when the Lord will Judge us all by are acts and doing.
God Bless
History lesson while learning about History in the making... hmmm so this is how my HIST teacher should have done it.
This would make it a nine state solution only moving the 9 states that allow civil unions to have marriage instead but not effect shiny others.
A 2 hour commute? is that normal?
Be honest, but gentle. You love who you love, and you shouldn't be coerced into anything you don't feel. Explain that you care for him, as a friend, but just don't see him in that way. If he's a good friend, he'll understand, and it will make your friendship stronger. If not, you'll be better off w/o him in your life. Neither of you need that kind of drama. Peace and good luck to you. *hug*
Good video.
Many are not lead by a church leader. A judge can marry, justice of the peace, even a ship captain at sea. Proponents of same sex marriage pretty much unanimously agree that religious leaders would never be forced to perform marriages that are against his or her faith. Christians and Buddhists would be free to continue their same practices uninterrupted. Besides, as an atheist, I didn't want a priest presiding over my marriage anyway.
I also could make the argument that NOT allowing marriage equality is a violation of a religion which accepts it, If Buddhists believe gas should be allowed the marry and the government says we can not, that is discrimination.
The bottom line is, marriage is a CIVIL non secular contract, If a priest performs a ceremony it does NOT make it a legal marriage until they are licensed by the state.
I totally agree. I would want my partner to have the right as any other spouse in a heterosexual marriage. Good job on vid even when tired.
The 1st amendment to the US Constitution specifically prohibits the government from passing any law respecting religion. In 1947 the Supreme Court ruled that this applied to States as well. So while the argument against same-sex marriage is largely driven by the religion right and their discomfort with the idea of two guys pounding each other, they can't legally argue that. Instead they use BS rhetoric like "marriage is an institution to create children" which is obviously nonsense.
@rlbrutt uh any not shiny. also dunno why it still uses my Google name instead of my UA-cam name depending on how i watch the movie.
But I didn't even use the word bicameral!
love you.
Who are the three people that's voted down?
btw nice video, wanted to ask u to make video about this subject and u look like if u re swimming all waving those hands XD
He is very smart and handsome. It be a shame if whoever he is with let him go.
I think u are so right, that u should have the same rights.
I heard what you said and you were concise but I could'nt past looking at your eyes........so cute
love is love...no matter what gender people are
I think they're just reflections, but I can't really tell.
Wow I thought the uk's law systems were complicated
Minority rights shouldn't be up to discussion by the general population. All these ballot questions about whether gays should be "allowed" to marry are appalling. It's like I wake up tomorrow and want to debate whether Jews should be allowed to use the same toilets as Gentiles. Let's have a referendum about that!
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