IROH THE TEAR-BENDER OF THE WEST IS BACK! And did Bumi not hit as well for you guys as it didn't for us? No shade to the actor, but the make up and looks was weird! Hit up Patreon.com/SeanTanktop to watch the UNCUT Full reaction to S1E5 & 6 of for $5 or $8 RIGHT NOW!!
I love how you can hear the Leaves on the Vine Motif. Fun fact apparently since Leaves on the Vine was the last thing Iroh's original VA Mako did Greg Baldwin the actor that replaced him refuses to ever sing Leaves on the Vine because it's not his song and it belongs to Mako. Also the portrait that they used for Lu Ten is actually a portrait of young Mako
I actually like the change on Bumi's character. People are saying "they changed Bumi" but when we want Ep 3 Jet's comment on the king being corrupt, then this wouldn't work. Plus it's good that we see both Bumi's childish nature and bitter side as well having to be in a century war. What makes this great now is that for the next seasons, we get to see Bumi change from what Aang reminds him of, his young self.
No issue with the angle on the character, the make up was just bizarre and he looked like shit. Good performance, interesting angle that fits with this specific iteration of the show, he just looks terrible when there’s a lot of folks that could have been better cast
I agree with what Sean says here. The perspective makes sense, he just looks bad man, like weird bad. I really back the argument of his attitude change though, this show is being more realistic, that’s the more realistic angle.
I wouldn't have minded, but it contributes to the repetitiveness of Aang's conversations with adults through the season - every past Avatar, every wise elder, all seem to have the same scolding message to impart on Aang. It ends up being rather tiring and stunts Aang's character growth.
It's the food scraps line that really sold me- I can't imagine making a decision like that even once, let alone over and over again for a century. As for how he looked- it's hard to do "centenarian who is also super jacked." I think they did alright with it.
19:40 In case it wasn't mentioned elsewhere, the family wearing white during funerals is a major Chinese tradition (along with other Asian cultures that have shared history and influence).
Iroh and Zuko (and to an extent Azula too) really are this whole, entire show. That scene with the earthbender soldier followed by the funeral scene are my favorite moments in this entire first season.
19:37 White is traditional dress for funerals in Korea… the show makes some ethnic winks in how the nationstates are characterized: Fire nation is vaguely chinese/korean, Kyoshi Island is okinawan/ainu, Omashu is heavily mughal I’m curious is Ba Sing Se will also resemble Omashu but richer 🤷♂️
So, the show featured a Bumi jaded and tired from all the impossible choices he's had to made through the 100 year war; SECRET TUNNEL!!!; and Leaves From The Vine.... all in one episode?!! Holy MOOD WHIPLASH, Batman!! 😁😁
It's when the series does its own thing instead of outright copying from the show that makes it shine. Little tidbits like Iroh's past that help make it shine.
3:58 Oh my God, I just had a heartbreaking eiphany: There has to be a deeper reason behind Aang and Katara naming their first child after King Bumi, and the animated movie about the adult Gaang coming out in October of next year HAS to have Aang & Katara either engaged or (already?) married to each other in it judging by their outfits in that one leaked concept art...what if the first Bumi fucking DIES in the movie?
Visually, Bumi was probably a hard sell for a lot, but he was really weird looking even by the standards of the cartoon. There really is never going to be a 100% accurate, faithful way to translate something so specific to an animated medium to live action, but that's just my thought
i guess I just wanted someone who didn't look 35 from the neck down. He did a good performance, the make up and physicality of their casting choice was odd tho
@SeanTanktop - you definitely aren't wrong there. I loved the whole, "Oooooooh, I bathe in milk every day but only from the neck dooown." bit you did on the uncut next episode intro, haha. Had me rolling.
I don't know if someone has said it before or if you guys' noticed it, but every time Iroh firebends, you can hear a sound similar to a dragon's roar. That's so genious given his title as dragon of the west.
It's really important to understand the difference between OG bumi and this bumi bumi. OG bumi was old and eccentric. That's all we know about him. He's wise and fun loving. There is no mention of war on his side. But this bumi has been actively put in situation of war and he made some choices that has burdened him and he felt betrayed because his friend and the avatar disappeared. The hundred years of war is considered responsibility of avatar, and bumi feels the same way. They showed that his choices and his age had toll on his mind and he was hopeless. Aang pulling him out of it brough the bumi back and he's close to OG show. There's something you need to understand about this show. They are not giving characters the naturally gifted stuff, but they want to actually bring their qualities by time. People are often complaining about katara. She was living in secluded tribe with constant fear. She has gone through a tragedy, but how does she perfectly articulate her pain and become perfect empath to everyone? OG portrayed her gifted with that, this show is trying to build it up for her that she learns through experiences like jet. You'll see them more in line with Og characters in next season.
Jacked older South Asian actors? You're gonna get different looks than animation when you decide to hire actual Asian actors. The only actor they could have hired for that role to fit the animation is Kumail Ali Nanjiani. They hired a fit younger South Asian actor who put on some weight for the role but didn't go full TRT. I think his take on Bumi both teaching Aang and being inspired by him was the more important part of the performance. And really everything was gonna pale in comparison to the Iro/Zuko flashback stuff.
Old man makeup never looks good. Maybe they should’ve cast an old actor and used a huge stunt man for the action scene. Long shots followed by the occasional closeup would’ve sold it.
I wonder if Zuko would do this? The removal of a stabbing object is not usually a good move because of the bleeding, he'd have to cauterize Iroh's wound.
I gotta ask did everyone tear up because of the song or because of the situation. Those are 2 different things, and most people say they cry or whatever because of the song and knowing the story behind it from the original. Take it out and replace it and does everyone still cry? Or say someone watches this for the first time no Avatar experience. They're not gonna know the song, so it won't even register nostalgicly.
Tears from our eyes, Come rolling down, Like little drops of rain, When we hear the sound, Avatar fans, have nothing to defend Against Uncle Iroh's, ability to tearbend. (-read/sing in Uncle Iroh's voice as in Leaves from the Vine for full effect)
You Guys are on CRACK the Bumie actor was on point and looked enough like the cartoon version to get a decent pass. You want A Jacked up Short under 5'6 ish that looked like the child actor and can act with no weird accent...yeah no
We are not that certain if Iroh is a war "criminal" as we don't know what international laws this universe has on what constitutes as a "war crime". Plus, we don't know what Iroh really did. He might have killed many innocents who were not even armed or soldiers. He may have done forms of torture to get information. But since we see him as he is now, we are biased to think that probably he didn't do such crimes. Maybe it's more on the length of his siege in Ba Sing Se and the amount of kills he has had.
Yes, this. I saw someone making this point elsewhere, and it brought me around about this scene. We know he was a successful general and a great soldier. He definitely killed a lot of enemy soldiers and led a hard siege, but he doesn't seem to be experiencing the sort of guilt you'd expect for the truly vile stuff.
20:18 gets people every time. They did a great job with this scene. 29:11 I didn’t like that part either. They should have aged him up on the body. Overall good episode. The Iroh Zuko stuff was excellent. Enjoyed your reaction to it.
Really glad you guys are enjoying this so far. So many haters just want the anime directly adapted and so many elements of the anime just wouldn’t work in live action
Anyone else think Oma was the first Earth Avatar? Learned from badger-moles, and in anger showed off incredible bending by building Omashu. Or she’s just a badass like Toph.
IROH THE TEAR-BENDER OF THE WEST IS BACK! And did Bumi not hit as well for you guys as it didn't for us? No shade to the actor, but the make up and looks was weird! Hit up Patreon.com/SeanTanktop to watch the UNCUT Full reaction to S1E5 & 6 of for $5 or $8 RIGHT NOW!!
26:30 Current “adult” me sick in bed watching X-Men 97🤯🤯
'Everything I need is on this Boat'
*Aggressively grabs tissues
Yes😢
They are MANIPULATING ME!
it literally felt like someone punched me in the chestv😭
For a mother who lost her son 17 years ago, that songs means a lot, Leaves from the vine.Congrats from Mexico
sorry for your loss dear.
May he rest in peace, my lady.
@@SeanTanktop thanks.
@@kira-dk2mx thanks, my lord.
Agree hun, I lost my daughter 5 years ago and understand how this song affects us.
I love how you can hear the Leaves on the Vine Motif. Fun fact apparently since Leaves on the Vine was the last thing Iroh's original VA Mako did Greg Baldwin the actor that replaced him refuses to ever sing Leaves on the Vine because it's not his song and it belongs to Mako. Also the portrait that they used for Lu Ten is actually a portrait of young Mako
I actually like the change on Bumi's character. People are saying "they changed Bumi" but when we want Ep 3 Jet's comment on the king being corrupt, then this wouldn't work. Plus it's good that we see both Bumi's childish nature and bitter side as well having to be in a century war. What makes this great now is that for the next seasons, we get to see Bumi change from what Aang reminds him of, his young self.
I really didn't like it at first, but after finishing the season and thinking about it... yeah, I like it. It makes a LOT of sense.
No issue with the angle on the character, the make up was just bizarre and he looked like shit. Good performance, interesting angle that fits with this specific iteration of the show, he just looks terrible when there’s a lot of folks that could have been better cast
I agree with what Sean says here. The perspective makes sense, he just looks bad man, like weird bad. I really back the argument of his attitude change though, this show is being more realistic, that’s the more realistic angle.
I wouldn't have minded, but it contributes to the repetitiveness of Aang's conversations with adults through the season - every past Avatar, every wise elder, all seem to have the same scolding message to impart on Aang. It ends up being rather tiring and stunts Aang's character growth.
It's the food scraps line that really sold me- I can't imagine making a decision like that even once, let alone over and over again for a century.
As for how he looked- it's hard to do "centenarian who is also super jacked." I think they did alright with it.
19:40 In case it wasn't mentioned elsewhere, the family wearing white during funerals is a major Chinese tradition (along with other Asian cultures that have shared history and influence).
Yeah, in hinduism as well. It didn't even occur to me that it might strike someone as unusual until Sean remarked on it.
Iroh and Zuko (and to an extent Azula too) really are this whole, entire show. That scene with the earthbender soldier followed by the funeral scene are my favorite moments in this entire first season.
19:37 White is traditional dress for funerals in Korea… the show makes some ethnic winks in how the nationstates are characterized: Fire nation is vaguely chinese/korean, Kyoshi Island is okinawan/ainu, Omashu is heavily mughal
I’m curious is Ba Sing Se will also resemble Omashu but richer 🤷♂️
I loved how Omashu had a bazaar. I'm looking forward to seeing Ba Sing Se brought to life
So, the show featured a Bumi jaded and tired from all the impossible choices he's had to made through the 100 year war; SECRET TUNNEL!!!; and Leaves From The Vine.... all in one episode?!! Holy MOOD WHIPLASH, Batman!! 😁😁
It's when the series does its own thing instead of outright copying from the show that makes it shine. Little tidbits like Iroh's past that help make it shine.
3:58 Oh my God, I just had a heartbreaking eiphany: There has to be a deeper reason behind Aang and Katara naming their first child after King Bumi, and the animated movie about the adult Gaang coming out in October of next year HAS to have Aang & Katara either engaged or (already?) married to each other in it judging by their outfits in that one leaked concept art...what if the first Bumi fucking DIES in the movie?
Leaves from the Vine will never not make me tear up.
BTW, the pictures are of Jackie Shroff & his ripped son. Jackie isn't ripped. :D
Visually, Bumi was probably a hard sell for a lot, but he was really weird looking even by the standards of the cartoon. There really is never going to be a 100% accurate, faithful way to translate something so specific to an animated medium to live action, but that's just my thought
i guess I just wanted someone who didn't look 35 from the neck down. He did a good performance, the make up and physicality of their casting choice was odd tho
@@SeanTanktopyou wanted RFK Jr. build 😉😆😉
@SeanTanktop - you definitely aren't wrong there. I loved the whole, "Oooooooh, I bathe in milk every day but only from the neck dooown." bit you did on the uncut next episode intro, haha. Had me rolling.
@SeanTanktop it's hard to pull off "centenarian who is also super jacked." It was either fully CGI him or put old-person make up on a younger actor.
I don't know if someone has said it before or if you guys' noticed it, but every time Iroh firebends, you can hear a sound similar to a dragon's roar. That's so genious given his title as dragon of the west.
It's really important to understand the difference between OG bumi and this bumi bumi. OG bumi was old and eccentric. That's all we know about him. He's wise and fun loving. There is no mention of war on his side. But this bumi has been actively put in situation of war and he made some choices that has burdened him and he felt betrayed because his friend and the avatar disappeared. The hundred years of war is considered responsibility of avatar, and bumi feels the same way. They showed that his choices and his age had toll on his mind and he was hopeless. Aang pulling him out of it brough the bumi back and he's close to OG show. There's something you need to understand about this show. They are not giving characters the naturally gifted stuff, but they want to actually bring their qualities by time. People are often complaining about katara. She was living in secluded tribe with constant fear. She has gone through a tragedy, but how does she perfectly articulate her pain and become perfect empath to everyone? OG portrayed her gifted with that, this show is trying to build it up for her that she learns through experiences like jet. You'll see them more in line with Og characters in next season.
Right, and we say that, it’s just the fact that he looked like shit
@@SeanTanktop there are more than one technical aspects of the show that they stumbled on, that I can agree on.
I adore the added Iroh scenes, and how both him and Zuko saved and pulled each other from the dark it really gives a new layer to their relationship
having a blast like katara's mom is WILDDDD
Uncle Iroh's actor, Paul Sun-Hyung Lee, refused to sing the song to honor the memory of Mako Iwamatsu.
I think this Bumi was genius
Y’all roasting Katara’s mom more than the Fire Nation did 😂
No one is immune to the power of Leaves From the Vine
Jacked older South Asian actors? You're gonna get different looks than animation when you decide to hire actual Asian actors. The only actor they could have hired for that role to fit the animation is Kumail Ali Nanjiani. They hired a fit younger South Asian actor who put on some weight for the role but didn't go full TRT. I think his take on Bumi both teaching Aang and being inspired by him was the more important part of the performance. And really everything was gonna pale in comparison to the Iro/Zuko flashback stuff.
the preformance is good. he just looks like shit and doesn't really sell the reveal of him.
Damn, who's cutting onions in here 😭😭😭
Old man makeup never looks good. Maybe they should’ve cast an old actor and used a huge stunt man for the action scene. Long shots followed by the occasional closeup would’ve sold it.
In a lot of East Asian and Southeast Asian cultures the colour of mourning is not black; the colour of mourning is white
I wonder if Zuko would do this? The removal of a stabbing object is not usually a good move because of the bleeding, he'd have to cauterize Iroh's wound.
you guys should pause the movie/video if u guys start talking
I gotta ask did everyone tear up because of the song or because of the situation. Those are 2 different things, and most people say they cry or whatever because of the song and knowing the story behind it from the original. Take it out and replace it and does everyone still cry? Or say someone watches this for the first time no Avatar experience. They're not gonna know the song, so it won't even register nostalgicly.
Personaly, it made me emotional because of Zucko, music or not wouldn't have change this.
Tears from our eyes,
Come rolling down,
Like little drops of rain,
When we hear the sound,
Avatar fans,
have nothing to defend
Against Uncle Iroh's,
ability to tearbend.
(-read/sing in Uncle Iroh's voice as in Leaves from the Vine for full effect)
You Guys are on CRACK the Bumie actor was on point and looked enough like the cartoon version to get a decent pass. You want A Jacked up Short under 5'6 ish that looked like the child actor and can act with no weird accent...yeah no
From Lu Ten's memorial theme and Iroh's song to his son to now as a theme that showcases Iroh's love for his nephew...
In Asian culture, you wear white for funerals.
We are not that certain if Iroh is a war "criminal" as we don't know what international laws this universe has on what constitutes as a "war crime". Plus, we don't know what Iroh really did. He might have killed many innocents who were not even armed or soldiers. He may have done forms of torture to get information. But since we see him as he is now, we are biased to think that probably he didn't do such crimes. Maybe it's more on the length of his siege in Ba Sing Se and the amount of kills he has had.
Yes, this. I saw someone making this point elsewhere, and it brought me around about this scene. We know he was a successful general and a great soldier. He definitely killed a lot of enemy soldiers and led a hard siege, but he doesn't seem to be experiencing the sort of guilt you'd expect for the truly vile stuff.
Those wooks were definitely all inside each other right before the Gaang showed up. 😂
Zuko and Iroh still the best part of this show 😭😭😭😭
20:18 gets people every time. They did a great job with this scene.
29:11 I didn’t like that part either. They should have aged him up on the body.
Overall good episode. The Iroh Zuko stuff was excellent. Enjoyed your reaction to it.
Really glad you guys are enjoying this so far. So many haters just want the anime directly adapted and so many elements of the anime just wouldn’t work in live action
I enjoyed it a lot! Way better than I expected. Can’t wait for Season 2! Thanks for your reactions!
24:01 What the FFF****CKK, SEAN?
I don’t think we’re getting Tales of BA Sing Se, so I think this reveal of his son’s death really works. They pulled it off excellently.
Not casting. That's hair and makeup
Naw. Physicality and Body type as well. So casting.
@@SeanTanktop I looked up the actor I see the body you want. :)
Thanks for the video! :)
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Hold the phone. He hasn't seen RRR. Solve that
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They should have gotten the dude from RRR to play Bumi
Beem's Dad!
Thanks!
No problem! You honor us!
Also, yeah, Bumi sucked. No shade to the actor either, he didn’t write or direct any of this. He performed what he was given extremely capably.
I thought it was fine and more than anything thus far in the netflix adaptation puts a button on Aang’s conflict
You can’t always judge someone for what happened in wartime. Unless they are enslaving and murdering millions of Jews.
Anyone else think Oma was the first Earth Avatar? Learned from badger-moles, and in anger showed off incredible bending by building Omashu. Or she’s just a badass like Toph.