I used to be like that. Some change, some don't. I'm still insecure about things but my critical analysis has helped me understand what my true grievances are. I just need money.
Random Guy: So you're telling me that people don't take SA seriously? Alina: Yeah look at the president, he sa'd people Random Guy: Well I don't take that case verry seriously
Peanut brain: Empathize with SA victims Standard brain: Justify SA Galaxy brain: Gaslight your opposition about SA in a way that is simultaneously incoherent and grossly insensitive
@@anothercub6958 and there are MANY applicants. I also would like to get paid to say that to misogynists, homophobes, racists, transphobes, ableists, etc. I WOULD love that job.
I never thought about it like that. Although, I never make that joke (anymore as an adult), I also never realized it would be directly related to rape culture. Thank you for exposing me to this 🙏🏻
@ No problem! I used to make those jokes when I was a kid, but now as an adult, I’m reflecting on how messed up it is that society encourages violence in prison.
These people group everything to do with gender and sexuality together so pronouns to them basically mean their sexuality... which is really stupid. When he said he/she I assume he means he's straight, which wasn't the question lol.
He never specified “right now” he just asked how the us isn’t protecting women. He cut her off and shifted the goal post when she was bringing up historical context. She answered 3 time “yes my husband is happy.” But more importantly, what does her husband’s happiness have to do with the untied states not protect women? Grandparents helping with child care should be something they choose to do, not something the government forces on them. Forcing people to do childcare that don’t want to do childcare is not a benefit for the person providing the care or the child receiving the care.
Also: the US has a huge problem with belittling pregnancy and childcare. They think having a child and taking care of it is like taking the trash out or doing the laundry. Childcare is a lifelong commitment. Not a punishment and not a chore. If a person doesn't want to care for children they shouldn't have to. Not every human is cut out for it. But like I said the US has a huge problem with acknowledging that not all people are cut out for childcare.
You know that you are a misogynist when you agree with all the points made but because the argument is being made by a woman you feel like you gotta argue and undermine. Smh
right! When they believe a man when they talk about misogyny, but they don't listen to women and are disrespectufl when women do it... like they're proving the point
Great points on how anti discrimination law doesn’t actually protect people from discrimination and how as discrimination gets outlawed, they find new ways to discriminate because of a thing called “loopholes” and the “limitations of language”
This dude sounds like the kinda guy to harass the drunkest woman at the bar into going home with him. Or lie about being a fire fighter or try to pass his parents house off as his own when they're on vacation!
Caller: "I don't think (g)rape culture is a thing." Also Caller: "I think the case with Eugene carroll was not believable, I think she was lying." Just wow bro...
Modern day like post-Dobbs? 65k women and girls being made to have permanent reminders of their attacks so far. Plenty of news of women being fatally turned away from medical care. It's like if heart surgery were illegal, I'm not planning on needing it but it needs to be available.
Bare minimum protection still isnt protection. Cool i get to work but bc i had a baby i had to use my sick and pto time to go have that baby and recover from adominal surgery and when i got sick a month or two from being back i got a warning bc i didnt have any sick time bc i used it all to go have a literal child. There's countries that have months to years of paid time off to be with their children but the "greatest country" somehow cant get it to work right?
Bring back public shaming, this world view is disgusting and should be called out as much. Also the "cut and dry" religious discrimination lawsuit seems as bullet proof as his title 9 arguments 🤣
"I have never heard of the rape case against DT, and I really don't hate women" * proceeds to accuse the woman in the rape case of lying even though he doesn't know the case at all *
12:23 his logic here would be like saying civil rights laws were only for black/hispanic/asian people because those groups happened to benefit from them
"How you can be anything in the world"... such an odd but repeated phrase I hear a lot from men when reading or listening to conversations like these. It's an observation I'm noticing. Is that phrasing/accusation used in some circles?
So I love Jovan Bradley… I’m a very consistent viewer of his content, the video is currently paused at 1:43. I just had to stop and make this comment, I don’t know who his female colleague is, but I think she’s incredibly disrespectful. I reside more on the left like Jovan, but sometimes I feel like the individuals that speak alongside him, make his platform look distasteful when they are profane. I agree with the individual who logged in and asked her if she was capable of having an intelligent conversation without being condescending. keep it cute.
I think that if you ask someone a question, only to talk over them immediately as they begin to answer, you deserve to get a "shut the fuck up" thrown your way.
W, L, and everything Or. These were the ingredients chosen to create the perfect comment. But theakkiqueen4655 accidentally added an extra ingredient to the concoction, Chemical Whatever. Thus, the perfect comment was born...
@@OdoluscofuscoW means win, L means loss. Basically just a comment saying "whatever, here's a comment for the algorithm." Legendary person used to comment "W,L, or whatever" shortly after a new video would upload. We miss them now lol.
@@bmanagement4657it isn't when said civility is disguised as attacks. When you've been civil and people don't listen and use that to walk all over you, you respond with direct confrontation and clarity and don't let that happen
@baristaz8834 but she undermined her credibility with attacks. She isnt appealing to those outside her group. That is the behavior of an insular fascist. It quickly became fascist v fascist and went NOWHERE. Thats why civility is important, so we can grow and find common ground.
@@bmanagement4657 and how do you think you address the people who refuse to listen with civility? It doesn't discredit you when nothing is done regardless of your civility. Civility alone didn't get women to this point bud
I’m going to say I disagree with him almost entirely, but he was right that you were circling his question with stuff that wasn’t relevant and were very condescending right out the gate and then you gaslit him about him being condescending, which he wasn’t he wanted a succinct answer to his question, and while he’s a dickhead that doesn’t make his question entirely invalid or his attempt to get an answer condescending, also this isn’t how you have a debate or conversation but I don’t think that’s really your goal anyways. Long story short you both come off enough as condescending narcissists that even when I disagree with the other side I can’t bring myself to agree with you
Nah, you just didn't make the connection like the caller didn't. And i don't thing anyone is gonna be fussed that you personally disagree with them for entirely superficial reasons.
@ never once said I disagreed with them. You made the same mistake your accusing me of, you didn’t like the content of the comment so you disregarded what the point even was
@ I said “ I can’t bring myself the agree with THEM” it doesn’t mean I don’t agree with their side of the argument, I thought the other guy was a dickhead and reeked of sexism. My point was that the way they were talking from the beginning of the conversation doesn’t promote debate or conversation much less leave room to change the other persons mind, bombarding someone with condescension and trying to talk from position of educating the ignorant without just answering questions and then explaining why they are wrong like your equals doesn’t ever lead anywhere. But like I said originally I don’t think that’s the point here and the content is probably just not for me I’m ignoring any childish attempts to just go after me as a human being like your trying to do instead of the context of my argument
how extrapolated the statement "trump literally just said he S.A'd women in that clip" is some of the shittiest attempt at mental gymnastics i have ever listened to anyone attempt. you obviously have listening comprehension issues. WOW @hoodservative you have to check this insanity out
what's the stream schedule? i'm so confused by the twitch calendar, it doesnt seem to show anything. also please let me on, trans d--e (ugh youtube lemme reclaim) anarchist here, i want to scare the chuds also if "donald trump is unfit to be usa president" is ever a topic agian, i want to debate that from the perspective of him being the most amerikkkan president since Washington edit: found the discords
Caller here's the answer to your disingenuous question: Me I pay her or more accurately people like me but I would gladly pay her if I had more people like you in my life, bonus fact I would LOVE to be married to a woman like Alina
Bare minimum protection still isnt protection. Cool i get to work but bc i had a baby i had to use my sick and pto time to go have that baby and recover from adominal surgery and when i got sick a month or two from being back i got a warning bc i didnt have any sick time bc i used it all to go have a literal child. There's countries that have months to years of paid time off to be with their children but the "greatest country" somehow cant get it to work right?
Dude thought he was going to debate a man and got upset when a woman started talking. Smh
These type of dudes absolutely make my blood boil
@@stevonwhite8933 simp
@@stevonwhite8933 these types live miserable lives
I used to be like that. Some change, some don't. I'm still insecure about things but my critical analysis has helped me understand what my true grievances are. I just need money.
Title is correct - guest IMMEDIATELY went misogynistic
Random Guy: So you're telling me that people don't take SA seriously?
Alina: Yeah look at the president, he sa'd people
Random Guy: Well I don't take that case verry seriously
Peanut brain: Empathize with SA victims
Standard brain: Justify SA
Galaxy brain: Gaslight your opposition about SA in a way that is simultaneously incoherent and grossly insensitive
Damn, she gets paid to tell ppl to STFU? Good on her!!
I mean, where there’s a demand there will be a market 😂
A true dream job.
My dream job
There are women who get paid to do the same in a very different context... the market is thriving😂
@@anothercub6958 and there are MANY applicants. I also would like to get paid to say that to misogynists, homophobes, racists, transphobes, ableists, etc. I WOULD love that job.
"I don't think that the USA perpetuates grape culture, but E Jean Carol was lying"
The lack of self awareness is terrifying.
15:49 have you ever made a joke about dropping the soap in prison? congratulations you have perpetuated rape culture.
When you’re a woman you don’t have to be in prison for rape culture to be relevant
I never thought about it like that. Although, I never make that joke (anymore as an adult), I also never realized it would be directly related to rape culture. Thank you for exposing me to this 🙏🏻
@ No problem! I used to make those jokes when I was a kid, but now as an adult, I’m reflecting on how messed up it is that society encourages violence in prison.
Person: *makes soap joke, or any prison sa joke for that matter*
Me: *uncomfortable transfeminine silence*
“As a man, I am obviously he/she.” -What?
He's Michael Jackson
These people group everything to do with gender and sexuality together so pronouns to them basically mean their sexuality... which is really stupid. When he said he/she I assume he means he's straight, which wasn't the question lol.
I think he heard “what pronouns do you use?” somehow and took SUPER literally
@@feverlillyno lmao. He’s obviously tryna troll. Idk how u came to that conclusion lmao.
@@jessed197 your guess is as good as mine so stfu
He never specified “right now” he just asked how the us isn’t protecting women. He cut her off and shifted the goal post when she was bringing up historical context.
She answered 3 time “yes my husband is happy.” But more importantly, what does her husband’s happiness have to do with the untied states not protect women?
Grandparents helping with child care should be something they choose to do, not something the government forces on them. Forcing people to do childcare that don’t want to do childcare is not a benefit for the person providing the care or the child receiving the care.
"I bet you make your husband hate everything, I bet you make your husband sad" women are always at fault for everything
Because he only gives a shit about her husband being happy and thinks its the worst thing in the world if a woman tells him to shut up
Also: the US has a huge problem with belittling pregnancy and childcare. They think having a child and taking care of it is like taking the trash out or doing the laundry.
Childcare is a lifelong commitment. Not a punishment and not a chore. If a person doesn't want to care for children they shouldn't have to. Not every human is cut out for it.
But like I said the US has a huge problem with acknowledging that not all people are cut out for childcare.
I'd bet $500 that if you asked the guest if he thinks america cares about men he would say "no"
Technically also true
@@BleedForTheWorldbut not for the same reasons that the us doesn't care about women
They almost instantly start thinking about something "clever" to say about pronouns...lol
“As a man, obviously my pronouns are he and she”
Sometimes the satire writes itself istg
Alina clocked him right off the bat
She's fierce af, and her wit is incredible. I'd hate to debate her, this poor guy didn't stand a chance.
Guest proved the point right before being kicked !
You know that you are a misogynist when you agree with all the points made but because the argument is being made by a woman you feel like you gotta argue and undermine. Smh
right! When they believe a man when they talk about misogyny, but they don't listen to women and are disrespectufl when women do it... like they're proving the point
Great points on how anti discrimination law doesn’t actually protect people from discrimination and how as discrimination gets outlawed, they find new ways to discriminate because of a thing called “loopholes” and the “limitations of language”
Dude says: "I'm not a fan of [the New Messiah of the white Christians]" then he proceeds to defend and excuse the serial sexual assaulter.
*proceeds to call a woman, whose name he doesn't even know, a liar*
This dude sounds like the kinda guy to harass the drunkest woman at the bar into going home with him. Or lie about being a fire fighter or try to pass his parents house off as his own when they're on vacation!
Bro needs to be on a watch list.
He takes issue with the statement that the USA does not protect women by arguing that the state should not protect women.
I'm at a loss.
And "women are always lying about rape"
Did the caller say their pronouns were he/she?
She sure did
She did sound very confused
I think she had a panic attack about the pronoun question. But good for her.
We stan a bigender icon!
she did
Caller: "I don't think (g)rape culture is a thing."
Also Caller: "I think the case with Eugene carroll was not believable, I think she was lying."
Just wow bro...
Modern day like post-Dobbs? 65k women and girls being made to have permanent reminders of their attacks so far. Plenty of news of women being fatally turned away from medical care. It's like if heart surgery were illegal, I'm not planning on needing it but it needs to be available.
BASED
The consequences of female actions must be felt
@@PietroRusso-s8iit's past your bedtime little buddy
@@PietroRusso-s8iLemme guess, unloved by everyone. Ignored by everyone. People suffering is your only bliss.
The title of this video was not wrong at all. As soon as Alina started answering this dude began to crash out. And it's the first 3 minutes, lol.
“Im a man an and I guess my pronouns are he/she” great start; great start.
This guy had SO much ego
Not him proving the point
God I love Alina she's my favorite panel member
Bare minimum protection still isnt protection. Cool i get to work but bc i had a baby i had to use my sick and pto time to go have that baby and recover from adominal surgery and when i got sick a month or two from being back i got a warning bc i didnt have any sick time bc i used it all to go have a literal child. There's countries that have months to years of paid time off to be with their children but the "greatest country" somehow cant get it to work right?
Bring back public shaming, this world view is disgusting and should be called out as much. Also the "cut and dry" religious discrimination lawsuit seems as bullet proof as his title 9 arguments 🤣
Seatbelt laws protects women and girls but it wasn’t made for them.
I was thinking the same thing.
"I have never heard of the rape case against DT, and I really don't hate women"
* proceeds to accuse the woman in the rape case of lying even though he doesn't know the case at all *
12:23 his logic here would be like saying civil rights laws were only for black/hispanic/asian people because those groups happened to benefit from them
the phrase ‘piece of work’ in that context should be considered a micro aggression. Good grief
Felt more macro lol
"I don't hate women"
* proceeds to call a woman, whose name he doesn't even know, a liar *
Woman : takes breath to talk
Guest : but actually *instinctively interrupts*
"I'm not one to say that he didn't do it... BUT"
Alright 👋
Jeeez that guy's therapist is going to need to book a two year overseas trip to decompress after his next session.
7:29 dude is debating whether or not women deserve protection, not if the protection exists.
You're doing good work out there man
Caller needs to take a long hard look in the mirror 😡
Minir detail but Title IX is schools; Title VII is workplace
I think you should have referred to this man with she/her pronouns. Clearly she is okay with that. And honestly I think she would prefer it
what do the numbers next to the blue icon in Alina's square mean?
It seems like he agreed with Alina but didn’t want to agree with her…?
He proved it 2 seconds in
"How you can be anything in the world"... such an odd but repeated phrase I hear a lot from men when reading or listening to conversations like these. It's an observation I'm noticing. Is that phrasing/accusation used in some circles?
So I love Jovan Bradley… I’m a very consistent viewer of his content, the video is currently paused at 1:43. I just had to stop and make this comment, I don’t know who his female colleague is, but I think she’s incredibly disrespectful. I reside more on the left like Jovan, but sometimes I feel like the individuals that speak alongside him, make his platform look distasteful when they are profane. I agree with the individual who logged in and asked her if she was capable of having an intelligent conversation without being condescending. keep it cute.
I think that if you ask someone a question, only to talk over them immediately as they begin to answer, you deserve to get a "shut the fuck up" thrown your way.
Just wanna say I love Alina
Holy shit 😂😂
W, L, and everything Or.
These were the ingredients chosen to create the perfect comment. But theakkiqueen4655 accidentally added an extra ingredient to the concoction, Chemical Whatever. Thus, the perfect comment was born...
Always remembered
Please! Im here since few months ago... Could you explain to me what it means? (Im spanish, and I want to understand the "W, L and everithing" thin)
@@OdoluscofuscoW means win, L means loss. Basically just a comment saying "whatever, here's a comment for the algorithm." Legendary person used to comment "W,L, or whatever" shortly after a new video would upload. We miss them now lol.
@@trashpanda3837 hahahahah so much thank you!! Finally I am able to understand why I cant translate it.... hahahahahahaha
@@Odoluscofusco You're very welcome haha :)
Holy shit
Damn Alina was rude af to the dude, I know he's dumb but this is borderline ableism
you got me in the first half xD
How?
I'm disabled by the way, autism and a chronic pain disorder
Lol
Caller dominated
She did no such thing.
Thats crazy, im still not protecting women during war time
Damn alina doesnt know how to have a civil convo
civility is bullshit used to silence oppressed peoples.
@@sapphicmoonwitchcivility is the tool used to protect oppressed people. Authoritarianism is the other option...
@@bmanagement4657it isn't when said civility is disguised as attacks. When you've been civil and people don't listen and use that to walk all over you, you respond with direct confrontation and clarity and don't let that happen
@baristaz8834 but she undermined her credibility with attacks. She isnt appealing to those outside her group. That is the behavior of an insular fascist. It quickly became fascist v fascist and went NOWHERE. Thats why civility is important, so we can grow and find common ground.
@@bmanagement4657 and how do you think you address the people who refuse to listen with civility? It doesn't discredit you when nothing is done regardless of your civility. Civility alone didn't get women to this point bud
I’m going to say I disagree with him almost entirely, but he was right that you were circling his question with stuff that wasn’t relevant and were very condescending right out the gate and then you gaslit him about him being condescending, which he wasn’t he wanted a succinct answer to his question, and while he’s a dickhead that doesn’t make his question entirely invalid or his attempt to get an answer condescending, also this isn’t how you have a debate or conversation but I don’t think that’s really your goal anyways.
Long story short you both come off enough as condescending narcissists that even when I disagree with the other side I can’t bring myself to agree with you
Nah, you just didn't make the connection like the caller didn't. And i don't thing anyone is gonna be fussed that you personally disagree with them for entirely superficial reasons.
@ never once said I disagreed with them. You made the same mistake your accusing me of, you didn’t like the content of the comment so you disregarded what the point even was
@evanmister literally said you can't bring yourself to agree. Whats the other option?
@@evanmister your point was tone policing and a demonstration of not being able to connect the dots. 😘
@ I said “ I can’t bring myself the agree with THEM” it doesn’t mean I don’t agree with their side of the argument, I thought the other guy was a dickhead and reeked of sexism. My point was that the way they were talking from the beginning of the conversation doesn’t promote debate or conversation much less leave room to change the other persons mind, bombarding someone with condescension and trying to talk from position of educating the ignorant without just answering questions and then explaining why they are wrong like your equals doesn’t ever lead anywhere. But like I said originally I don’t think that’s the point here and the content is probably just not for me
I’m ignoring any childish attempts to just go after me as a human being like your trying to do instead of the context of my argument
how extrapolated the statement "trump literally just said he S.A'd women in that clip" is some of the shittiest attempt at mental gymnastics i have ever listened to anyone attempt. you obviously have listening comprehension issues. WOW
@hoodservative you have to check this insanity out
He said he grabs them and kisses them, that's quite literally sexual assault
Literally says he “doesn’t even wait”. Men will do anything to excuse sexual assault it’s wild.
You are very good at projecting, well done bby ❤
I feel bad for the women around you
you should go see what ur mom thinks about that
Exactly , look who just got elected '
what's the stream schedule? i'm so confused by the twitch calendar, it doesnt seem to show anything. also please let me on, trans d--e (ugh youtube lemme reclaim) anarchist here, i want to scare the chuds
also if "donald trump is unfit to be usa president" is ever a topic agian, i want to debate that from the perspective of him being the most amerikkkan president since Washington
edit: found the discords
Caller here's the answer to your disingenuous question: Me I pay her or more accurately people like me but I would gladly pay her if I had more people like you in my life, bonus fact I would LOVE to be married to a woman like Alina
Bro needs to be on a watch list.
Bare minimum protection still isnt protection. Cool i get to work but bc i had a baby i had to use my sick and pto time to go have that baby and recover from adominal surgery and when i got sick a month or two from being back i got a warning bc i didnt have any sick time bc i used it all to go have a literal child. There's countries that have months to years of paid time off to be with their children but the "greatest country" somehow cant get it to work right?