Mr. Black might be the guy who actually organized the initial ambush at the beginning of the game. The reason Mr. Black calls Tommy Mr. Teal, is not because he's using a "codename" linked to Tommy's shirt color, but rather because Mr. Black thinks he's still speaking to the phone's previous owner that Tommy killed - Leo Teal. Notice his first sentence when Tommy makes contact: "Mr. Teal, your help in eradicating those out-of-towners was invaluable to business." Those "out of towners" were actually Tommy and his crew, as well as Lance and his crew. It's likely that Cortez' right hand Gonzalez tipped Diaz about it, who informed Leo. Leo then contacted Mr. Black to hire hitmen to crash the deal, likely promising a juicy cut - hence why Mr. Black initially appreciates his 'help' mentioning it was invaluable to business, and proceeds to offer him more jobs that require 'hands on approach'. So Tommy in the twist of irony, ends up becoming a hitman for the person who organized hitmen to kill him and his crew. Perhaps Mr. Black realized this towards the end, and could not risk this information reaching to Tommy.
@@philipkandinski5233 It's also very possible that Tommy already knew (or realized eventualy) that the guy calling is responsible for the ambush. However, he always kept dead silent in all of their conversations, never uttering a single word. Reason being is likely because the first time someone called, thinking it was Leo, Tommy got busted the moment he spoke up, blowing his cover - so he made sure not to make this mistake again and expose his true identity to Mr. Black.
Mr Black was the most mysterious character in Vice City. Loved his strange voice and assassination missions hitting bizarre targets. Kinda reminded me of Keizer Soze from The Usual Suspects
What if in the mission "loose ends" mr black sent out tommy to kill some of his "emloyers" as he calls so he can dissapear without anyone other than tommy knowing of his various dealings in vice city, the mission is called loose ends after all and tommy is sent to tie mr black's loose ends
The patient wolf when he gives us these stories he gives the game so much more personality and emotion explaining the missions with much more understanding😅😅😅
I know it's never stated or anything, but I actually choose to believe Mr. Black DID know it was Tommy. What connection does Leo have with the color teal? But Tommy, his main shirt is literally Teal. The games main color is pretty much teal.
IIRC “Check out at the check-in” does not become available until you complete “VIP” for the Kaufman Cabs. That is the mission where you compete with a Rival taxi company to get an old wealthy man to the airport. He has the same model as the guy with the briefcase and the lady in “ check out at the check-in”. So it’s implied. It’s the same guy at least that’s the way I always took it.
"Mr. Teal, your help in eradicating those out-of-towners was invaluable to business." This was Mr. Black thinking he's talking to Mr. Teal (the Chef tommy kills to get his phone, the chef's name is actually Leo Teal, and a lot of people thought Mr.Black called Tommy mr. teal because of his shirt). It seems Teal was the one who helped eradicating some "out-of-towners". Those "out-of-towners" were likely Tommy and his crew, alongside Lance and his own. Seems Mr.Black was one of the persons who led and set up the initial ambush at the start of the game (those men in black were likely his hitmen, which were directed by Mr.Black thanks to the tip from Teal). This is likely why Tommy always kept quiet whenever he called, as to not give himself up, because he, himself was one of those "out-of-towners" that Mr.Black attempted to eradicate. Just a theory though.
I thought this too, but it's a really good red herring. Tommy is actually using a phone from "Leo Teal" - the guy he killed, and when Mr. Black called, he still thinks he's talking to Leo, hence why he calls him Mr. Teal.
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Hold it, Hold it - this is a stretch theory; BUT, could it be that this particular part of Vice City went on to inspire the setup in Hotline Miami, hm?
It’s ironic that Mr. Black calls Tommy, Mr. Teal. Though we know that it’s intended to be for Leo Teal, thus the irony is that Tommy default outfit os a Teal Hawaiian shirt 😂
Vicr City Missions that murders more innocent people are limited to at least some Mr Black's missions(outside "Messing with the Man" where Tommy Vercetti went Omnicidal Maniac there)
There's something confusing to me. So we know Tommy broke his phone and then stole Leo's phone. However, with Tommy's phone being broken, Mr.Black believes he calls Leo through Leo's number but how come other story characters call Tommy in the first place??
He gave It to Rosenberg,who told Cortez that told Diaz,the others Tommy was already using It for himself and only people related to Leo(Mr Black, Umberto Robina, unkown henchman) believed that It was Leo
@@ali99_82 the chef Tommy killed and took the phone of was named Leo Teal,who worked as a hitman for Mr Black, It's on his police file in the old Vice City website
If the last job was his retirement plan, it's not really a smart plan. There's nothing stopping Tommy from just escaping with the loot himself, instead of handing it over
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I like this video and it could very well be true but Mr. Black is very much a fixer so I doubt he would kill off his employers. That would paint a huge target on his back. I don’t believe that Tommy even cared about the innocent people that he killed for Mr. Black which shows a lot about his character and I doubt Tommy has morals or a conscience at all. Black didn’t have any leverage over him, didn’t blackmail him nor did he get Tommy the answers he sought. Tommy was greedy and all that mattered to him was getting his way. Yeah when Niko killed people for the Fixer, a mob associate, he did so without question but even then, these people had a weapon to defend themselves. Tommy brutally killed innocent, defenceless people for money. I guess you could say it’s true for CJ as well but CJ’s reasons for killing Madd Dogg’s manager and girlfriend were based on redeeming himself and getting respect from his friends and family rather than simple greed.
It's never said in game, but Rockstar's website used to have a "Vice City Crime Tree" wallpaper that called the character "Mr. Black." In universe, this is just an alias the police have assigned to Leo Teal's boss. In real life the names Mr. Black and Mr. Teal are probably references to the aliases in Reservoir Dogs.
Mr Black,Victor Vance, Pierre La Ponce(french guy from Cortez mission) and Pedro Garcia(leader of the mexican gang in Phil's First mission) all only got names in the Vice City Crime Tree website
Honestly man it kills me because I wanted a proper return to VICE CITY aka the greatest GTA game ever made. I'd like a proper remake or sequel. But instead we are getting some weird toned down crappy Bonnie and Clyde BS in modern Florida. Lame. Vice City belongs in the 70s and 80s! GTA 6 is what happens when all the talent who made GTA great, were fired or something
I don't think so.. its HD, runs fine. Think they did a good job after a few patches ironed out the bugs. Think most people just say that to join the neg bandwagon.
Premieres suck, nothing better than being told "hey, this video isn't available yet." Whatever, as long as the people who give you money were allowed to see it when you posted it instead of at an arbitrary date and time with a distracting chat feed off to the side.
@@dustindoylebrand Doesn't change the fact that a premiere is just a worse way of saying "this video will be available soon." You know what else does that without cluttering up screen space or making people think that it's something they can watch immediately? Saying "this video will be available soon" in a community post. Heck, if it's every Sunday and he sticks to the schedule, then premieres are even more useless because his audience already knows when it'll be available.
Mr. Black might be the guy who actually organized the initial ambush at the beginning of the game.
The reason Mr. Black calls Tommy Mr. Teal, is not because he's using a "codename" linked to Tommy's shirt color, but rather because Mr. Black thinks he's still speaking to the phone's previous owner that Tommy killed - Leo Teal.
Notice his first sentence when Tommy makes contact: "Mr. Teal, your help in eradicating those out-of-towners was invaluable to business."
Those "out of towners" were actually Tommy and his crew, as well as Lance and his crew. It's likely that Cortez' right hand Gonzalez tipped Diaz about it, who informed Leo. Leo then contacted Mr. Black to hire hitmen to crash the deal, likely promising a juicy cut - hence why Mr. Black initially appreciates his 'help' mentioning it was invaluable to business, and proceeds to offer him more jobs that require 'hands on approach'.
So Tommy in the twist of irony, ends up becoming a hitman for the person who organized hitmen to kill him and his crew. Perhaps Mr. Black realized this towards the end, and could not risk this information reaching to Tommy.
our storytelling master would have benefitted of that a lot if he touched it
@@philipkandinski5233 It's also very possible that Tommy already knew (or realized eventualy) that the guy calling is responsible for the ambush.
However, he always kept dead silent in all of their conversations, never uttering a single word.
Reason being is likely because the first time someone called, thinking it was Leo, Tommy got busted the moment he spoke up, blowing his cover - so he made sure not to make this mistake again and expose his true identity to Mr. Black.
Mr Black was the most mysterious character in Vice City. Loved his strange voice and assassination missions hitting bizarre targets. Kinda reminded me of Keizer Soze from The Usual Suspects
What if in the mission "loose ends" mr black sent out tommy to kill some of his "emloyers" as he calls so he can dissapear without anyone other than tommy knowing of his various dealings in vice city, the mission is called loose ends after all and tommy is sent to tie mr black's loose ends
Your storytelling gave this some kinda of boost, amazing job
Thank you! glad you enjoyed!
The patient wolf when he gives us these stories he gives the game so much more personality and emotion explaining the missions with much more understanding😅😅😅
He doesn’t allow me to access his paid content after I’ve paid for it. I need his emotion and personality to help explain what the fuck is going on
Thats so much effort put into these videos! I can understand it as a creator... Love your videos ❤
I love your way of story telling. Keep doing the good work ❤
3:05 these videos do such a good job of being funny without feeling comedic
Thank you!
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I'm glad!!!
Great, these GTA stories ❤
This guy was born to do this work!
Thank you!
I know it's never stated or anything, but I actually choose to believe Mr. Black DID know it was Tommy. What connection does Leo have with the color teal? But Tommy, his main shirt is literally Teal. The games main color is pretty much teal.
lol no, Leo's surname is literally Teal... Leo Teal
I just came across your channel, and your narration my brother is award worthy. The cognac I am sipping just adds to the situation 👏 good work
Hope you enjoyed your drink!
IIRC “Check out at the check-in” does not become available until you complete “VIP” for the Kaufman Cabs. That is the mission where you compete with a Rival taxi company to get an old wealthy man to the airport. He has the same model as the guy with the briefcase and the lady in “ check out at the check-in”. So it’s implied. It’s the same guy at least that’s the way I always took it.
You don't need to complete any Kaufman Cabs mission to unlock Check out at the check-in, but your theory is fun
Check Out at the Check-In is unlocked after Shakedown, check out gta wiki next time
ye but who is mr black?
"Mr. Teal, your help in eradicating those out-of-towners was invaluable to business."
This was Mr. Black thinking he's talking to Mr. Teal (the Chef tommy kills to get his phone, the chef's name is actually Leo Teal, and a lot of people thought Mr.Black called Tommy mr. teal because of his shirt). It seems Teal was the one who helped eradicating some "out-of-towners".
Those "out-of-towners" were likely Tommy and his crew, alongside Lance and his own.
Seems Mr.Black was one of the persons who led and set up the initial ambush at the start of the game (those men in black were likely his hitmen, which were directed by Mr.Black thanks to the tip from Teal).
This is likely why Tommy always kept quiet whenever he called, as to not give himself up, because he, himself was one of those "out-of-towners" that Mr.Black attempted to eradicate.
Just a theory though.
Best video by far ❤❤
Tommy is Mr.Teal because of his teal shirt bro
Yes
I thought this too, but it's a really good red herring. Tommy is actually using a phone from "Leo Teal" - the guy he killed, and when Mr. Black called, he still thinks he's talking to Leo, hence why he calls him Mr. Teal.
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People hating on these kind of content is so annoying like, jeez just get the f outta here if you don't enjoy it, it takes effort to create this videos
3:07 best ever 😂😂😂
Vice City Stories next!!
The Dr. Claw of Vice city
Hold it, Hold it - this is a stretch theory;
BUT, could it be that this particular part of Vice City went on to inspire the setup in Hotline Miami, hm?
It’s ironic that Mr. Black calls Tommy, Mr. Teal. Though we know that it’s intended to be for Leo Teal, thus the irony is that Tommy default outfit os a Teal Hawaiian shirt 😂
Vicr City Missions that murders more innocent people are limited to at least some Mr Black's missions(outside "Messing with the Man" where Tommy Vercetti went Omnicidal Maniac there)
Who is the next gta Guy ?
"Can we call you 'Uncle Blackey'?"
"... No."
There's something confusing to me.
So we know Tommy broke his phone and then stole Leo's phone.
However, with Tommy's phone being broken, Mr.Black believes he calls Leo through Leo's number but how come other story characters call Tommy in the first place??
He gave It to Rosenberg,who told Cortez that told Diaz,the others Tommy was already using It for himself and only people related to Leo(Mr Black, Umberto Robina, unkown henchman) believed that It was Leo
@@mr.andrew7820 That makes a lot of sense, thanks
Mr black knows it's tommy. He calls tommy Mr. Teal. The colour of his shirt
@@ali99_82 the chef Tommy killed and took the phone of was named Leo Teal,who worked as a hitman for Mr Black, It's on his police file in the old Vice City website
@@mr.andrew7820 ohh. I never know his full name was leo teal
Please dont ever forget about then psp gta games
Ye but who is Mr black?
A unkown Guy who operated a Hitmen ring
If the last job was his retirement plan, it's not really a smart plan. There's nothing stopping Tommy from just escaping with the loot himself, instead of handing it over
Need gta 4 story recap
I hope they update to next gen.... Ive got a 360 copy if not... i'll be doing SA first though
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😂 what was my mention again?
I like this video and it could very well be true but Mr. Black is very much a fixer so I doubt he would kill off his employers. That would paint a huge target on his back. I don’t believe that Tommy even cared about the innocent people that he killed for Mr. Black which shows a lot about his character and I doubt Tommy has morals or a conscience at all. Black didn’t have any leverage over him, didn’t blackmail him nor did he get Tommy the answers he sought. Tommy was greedy and all that mattered to him was getting his way. Yeah when Niko killed people for the Fixer, a mob associate, he did so without question but even then, these people had a weapon to defend themselves. Tommy brutally killed innocent, defenceless people for money. I guess you could say it’s true for CJ as well but CJ’s reasons for killing Madd Dogg’s manager and girlfriend were based on redeeming himself and getting respect from his friends and family rather than simple greed.
How do we know his name is mr black. It never says this
It's never said in game, but Rockstar's website used to have a "Vice City Crime Tree" wallpaper that called the character "Mr. Black."
In universe, this is just an alias the police have assigned to Leo Teal's boss. In real life the names Mr. Black and Mr. Teal are probably references to the aliases in Reservoir Dogs.
Mr Black,Victor Vance, Pierre La Ponce(french guy from Cortez mission) and Pedro Garcia(leader of the mexican gang in Phil's First mission) all only got names in the Vice City Crime Tree website
Honestly man it kills me because I wanted a proper return to VICE CITY aka the greatest GTA game ever made. I'd like a proper remake or sequel. But instead we are getting some weird toned down crappy Bonnie and Clyde BS in modern Florida. Lame. Vice City belongs in the 70s and 80s! GTA 6 is what happens when all the talent who made GTA great, were fired or something
I preferred the phone jobs from Gta iii because they felt like has more relevance to the story or the cities universe.
It's sad that you use the definitive edition, that looks awful
In terms of looks, this is much better than the classic edition sorry
@@palimelodies793but the character models look worse
It looks fine. Especially in vice
I don't think so.. its HD, runs fine. Think they did a good job after a few patches ironed out the bugs. Think most people just say that to join the neg bandwagon.
@@ThePatientWolf I agree
The secret clickbait
I guess you have to be patient, in order to generate your fake AI voice with a huge script.
I'm sorry, Dave.
@@ThePatientWolf no worries, Trigger.
Premieres suck, nothing better than being told "hey, this video isn't available yet." Whatever, as long as the people who give you money were allowed to see it when you posted it instead of at an arbitrary date and time with a distracting chat feed off to the side.
He's releasing these every Sunday.
@@dustindoylebrand Doesn't change the fact that a premiere is just a worse way of saying "this video will be available soon." You know what else does that without cluttering up screen space or making people think that it's something they can watch immediately? Saying "this video will be available soon" in a community post. Heck, if it's every Sunday and he sticks to the schedule, then premieres are even more useless because his audience already knows when it'll be available.
Cry about it
@@CoralCopperHead you just should come here by monday then ...😅
He’s crying more than a snake with a toothache