The Most Important Lift You Aren't Doing
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- One of my favorite lifts. Sadly, many people either don't know it exists or don't think it merits serious attention and effort. It's time to change that.
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I love push presses they help confidence as well in so many lifts
silatguy they're a lot of fun too.
Finally a video that explains Pushpress properly, it's definitely an underated exercise
Glad you enjoyed it man.
I do push press from the floor(cleaning it up) as my main upperbody lift, truly my favorite lift. I never bench since I chose to just do whats important to me as opposed to ”what you should”, even though i’m kind of naturally inclined towards benching.
Moving something from the floor to overhead is truly the best test of raw strength imo.
Far more functional than the bench press and when the overhead press was an Olympic lift it was heavily emphasised by lifters.
Shame it disappeared for awhile.
I agree. Plus it's a lot more fun too!
And it’s a probably mans lift XD
Anybody can hop under the bar, but stabilising and pressing heavyweight overhead is just hard in general.
It's my favorite exercise for shoulders.
Definitely feel the push press much more in my upper back and traps much more than the press. I think it’s due to stabilizing at the lock out.
I really don’t understand how you don’t at least have 100k subs. I literally just started doing this today and I think it’s my second favorite exercise. I think Jeff should take some notes for real.
It is what it is man. I don't put too much stock into UA-cam performance as an indicator of anything expect UA-cam performance.
Enkiri Elite Fitness fair enough, still waiting on that next installment of form check Friday. 🤓
Sadly too tall to press in my basement. I've been reduced to seated press and high incline.
Gotta set up that rack outside man! That's why garages are better than basements though haha You have the freedom to move outside and get fresh air when you want it.
I have the same problem in my gym.
If youre able to hold just tge bar at full extension, you can get either a cambered bar or cambered bar attachment.
@@bbqseitan7106 cambered bar push press oof. My abs hurt thinking about that
i did push presses tuesday and man my traps hurt even today.
Ladislaff kind of surprising isn't it?
Stalling on my ohp, will incorporate these.
Works wonders for me. I do a few very heavy sets for around three reps per set and as back off i lower the weight considerably and press till I cant get it up and then I crank out a few extra reps with the leg drive.
The lift that im doing is probably the one that will be the one that gives me happiness.😔
I love your videos and your knowledge my friend. Keep up the good work!
Inspirational Video Alec style.
Thanks!
Good video man!!! I might start doing the push press instead of the basic standing barbell shoulder press. Seems like the push press is more beneficial.
Thanks dude! I think the push press has more benefits overall, no reason you can't do both though!
They are completely two different exercices. The Press (always strict by definition) develops pure shoulder strength. The push press is mostly about hips and legs with use of momentum. The carryover is from the Press to the push press. Not the other way around. The Press is definitely more beneficial (the most difficult part of the press is to push the bar off the clavicles at deadstop. And when you push press, you avoid that part. Push press only overload the lockout muscles at the top. Not the shoulders primary).
what if your training is specific to powerlifting? Is there a place for push presses?
A lot of people would tell you that it's wasted time/energy when it comes to powerlifting, but in my opinion that's a bit shortsighted, especially when it comes to novice/intermediate lifters. I think that being overly specific with all of your work too early in the game is a mistake that will ultimately hinder your progress and shortchange your development as a lifter. And maybe even lead to injury down the road. If you're already benching elite numbers then obviously you have to be very specific to yield any training effect, but if you're still developing then I'm of the opinion that it's a good idea to incorporate a wide variety of different exercises and there's no better way to get more bang for your buck than with big compound lifts like the push press that allow you to use a lot of weight, stress a lot of big muscle groups, and increase coordination, athleticism, and power.
TL;DR - Beginners and intermediates should incorporate multiple different exercises rather than restricting themselves solely to the powerlifts in order to enhance long term strength/development.
You were a wrestler ?
If you happen to see this, whats your opinion on circus dumbbell pressing? The range of motion in my shoulders isn't great, and will never get better so I'm thinking of incorporating these instead
I think push presses have more utility overall, but if you have access to a circus DB that makes for a fun change of pace, imo.
Do you recommend push presses be done in a flat or heeled shoe?
Nino Rota I prefer the heel. It makes it easier to keep your heels planted firmly while still getting good leg drive. But it's not necessary, it's just what I'm used to.
@Eyre Borne You dirty dog!
Are there any advantages to strict barbell press or is this better in every way?
The push press is not going to build as much pure shoulder strength/hypertrophy as compared to the strict press.
Hello great video a new subscriber.
I had a question if you did Heavy Farmers walks 3 times a week would that be enough for leg growth?
Or would you still need to squat and possibly do some other form of deadlifting?
Thanks....!!!
Eric Hill it might make your legs grow a small amount initially if you're relatively untrained, but after a short period of time you would not see anymore increases in leg size. If you really want to get big legs you've got to include some form of deep knee flexion work. It doesn't necessarily have to be squatting per se, but definitely something of that ilk.
can i replace ohp with push press i have platues on ohp (
Just for general strength and power what are your thougths on doing push-presses from behind the neck? I don't have good enough mobility to do it from the front rack position.
Perfectly fine option.
@@EnkiriElite excellent,thanks for the quick anwser bro!
At the moment i was doing snatch-grip highpulls and power-cleans and wanted to add a pushing explosive move,this will get the job done i guess
ok I am getting better at the push press feel really good but I keep hitting my chin :( how do I stop that idk if I am press to much back instead of up elbows are high for me like front squat. I really don't want to hit my chin again I care about my jaw more than an physical goals should I practice behind the neck for sometime?
hadhad129 I can't judge your form only from your comment above, but you may be missing bringing back your head (as if you wanted to hide it inside your neck) on the initial phase of the ascent. The moment the bar goes beyond your head, then you can bring it again to its normal position. Practice with light weights first, and not to full speed till you grasp it. When you're sure about your form then you can start speeding it up and going heavy. Regarding your elbows being high like a front squat, in my opinion that's how you're supposed to push press. That's how olympic weightlifters do it. It makes sense, since that forces you to initiate the movement by exploding with your legs, and not with you arms, like most people will tend to do. Arms should come into play a bit later.
Could I do this after benching on my upper day so like, pullup>bench>row>push press>shrug>arms super set>abs/lower back super set. Or would u do it at the start since it's a power movement
Lewis Boys it depends on what you want to prioritize. If you care about benching more then bench first. If you care about push pressing more then push press first. Or just do them on separate days. You could still easily bench press 1-2x a week and push press 1-2x a week while having 3 upper body days.
Alec Enkiri I care more about benching tbh, I already do strict military press but it's like the only lift that I can't get up, probably cos I don't put it first in my routine. I do two upper and two lower days, one volume and one intensity of each day so I do bench twice a week, usually with one day being with bands or floor press or summat a bit different to standard bench, then I do my vertical presses around 4th/5th in the routine
Well, the strict press and the push press offer pretty distinct benefits. Doing one or the other vs. both would not be redundant, imo. Either way, you should put your priority first in the workout, so bench first. That said, there's no reason you can't move your overhead stuff earlier into the workout though before doing all that other work which I'm assuming is just more horizontal pressing.
Well I alternate my exercise so it's pull push pull push etc, that's why my ohp is my forth movement, thank you for the quick responses, I think I'll just replace strict press with push press for a few weeks anyway just to try it properly
Lewis Boys good luck! Let me know how it goes.
Would BTN Push Presses havw the same benefits?
They fuck up your shoulders
@@KING-kv6cv Lol no they don't. Just do them with a wider grip or eve snatch grip if you have shit mobility.
@@KING-kv6cv Olympic weightlifters do them a lot. They wouldn't be doing an accessory lift that could cause an injury. Of course, you need to have good shoulder mobility to do them. Otherwise, then yes, you can fuck them up badly.
I'm trying to improve my pressing...can't help but notice you move backwards like a foot each rep in some of your clips.
Seems like a lot of lost power.
Yeah wtf was that
Anyone got experience doing it w dumbbells ?
Robert G I think that would kind of defeat the purpose of what you get out of doing it
@@thatoneguy8493 I have done it and get quite a bit of leg drive to get the dumbbells moving up. Amabolic Please elaborate.
Robert G so I could be totally wrong here but it seems like the point is to use your body as 1 until to move something else heavy af as another (1) unit. Doing DBs would split that up, leaving opportunity for leakage of power in the chain. Sounds bro sciencey lol I know
@@thatoneguy8493 Thank you for your thoughts. Obviously it would be nice to get input from Alec Enkiri.
@@robert50173 Furthermore, there's more room for overloading with a barbell. Let's suppose you are a big guy. After some time of serious training you could be push pressing 120 kg or more. Not every gym has the equivalent weight dumbbells. In my gym the dumbbells go up to 40 kg (95 lb or so).
How much you want for that electric chainsaw
Strongman>
Are those 45lbs for real? 😂😂
lol