I like that they are trying to find ways to mitigate issues we face using these products. The points seem to be a good step in the right direction. However I doubt I will be swapping out my honeycomb any time soon for this. I use magnets to hold down workpieces that are more often then not, warped slightly. I also use workpieces much smaller than the normal 12"12 sheet and I do not think those supplied rails would be much help in holding them down. But, like I say, I think it is a step in the right direction and I am glad to see them thinking about things other than just stronger laser heads. Good review, thanks again, Steve.
It is good to see other accessories to improve the various issues that come up with lasers. I agree that this may limit the magnetic jigs but I also see opportunity with the T-slot side rails to both fix the panel to the laser and create jigs for alignment. It's a give and take with either option for support and airflow. Thanks for watching!
It's a 40" smart TV so I can keep up on UA-cam videos while letting the lasers do their thing! It's also great for referencing digital manuals when assembling new toys! I mean tools. :D
Clearly this is modeled after the 'big boy' fiber laser beds and plasma tables, but I think it is a solution in search of a problem. The reason those big tools use spikes is because the cutters on those tools are powerful enough to cut through not just the workpiece, but also the supporting surface. By reducing that surface to a series of points with lots of clearance between them, and then putting a pool of water beneath that to deal with the heat of the laser/plasma cutter, the cutting beam(s) avoid cutting through the support. (Well, for a while anyway, and then individual rows of points have to be replaced when they become too damaged to hold anything). That issue really doesn't exist with this kind of laser, as a diode laser just isn't going to cut through a ferric metal support. Given the clamping advantages of a honeycomb, and the fact that both allow for adequate ventilation, I don't really see the application for this.
My review of the Atomstack F3 "T" nuts too small for slots can pop out and do when tightening. Long screws and wingnuts hit my Creality Laser arm interfering with it. Every other "Toothed" arm is lower than the previous one, material does not even touch them, so what use are they? Teeth are slightly rounded so it makes the surface quite slippery for the material. Last the surface is not magnetic.
Not sure if was mentioned but I actually stumbled into a little flaw, I had a cutout I was doing, some square that had fallen into the slots and one side ended up actually sticking up to where the laser head would hit it and completely move the sheet seems like a possible fire waiting to happen. Might burn cleaner but other design is probably a little on the safer side.
You are right that smaller pieces could fall through and stick up. In those cases adding a few tabs to the design would keep them in place and if done right would pop out easily by hand or with a fine razor blade. There are always trade offs.
@@Vintauri Yeah guess never thought about using tabs, use to maybe using them on cnc due to high spinning bit, but I suppose might have to on smaller things with this.
The enclosure in this video is the Comgrow large enclosure. It works well for doing video as it give me more room for a camera and more light. Otherwise it might be a bit excessive. amzn.to/47hCaH1
That is the Comgrow Large laser enclosure. It works well for video but also lets some of the smoke rise to the top and then it does not always extract well. But if you have a camera and need a simple solution, this does work decently. amzn.to/3TjHHqf
I like that they are trying to find ways to mitigate issues we face using these products. The points seem to be a good step in the right direction. However I doubt I will be swapping out my honeycomb any time soon for this. I use magnets to hold down workpieces that are more often then not, warped slightly. I also use workpieces much smaller than the normal 12"12 sheet and I do not think those supplied rails would be much help in holding them down. But, like I say, I think it is a step in the right direction and I am glad to see them thinking about things other than just stronger laser heads. Good review, thanks again, Steve.
It is good to see other accessories to improve the various issues that come up with lasers. I agree that this may limit the magnetic jigs but I also see opportunity with the T-slot side rails to both fix the panel to the laser and create jigs for alignment. It's a give and take with either option for support and airflow. Thanks for watching!
Love the monitor over the workbench!! So handy!! Nice review!!
It's a 40" smart TV so I can keep up on UA-cam videos while letting the lasers do their thing! It's also great for referencing digital manuals when assembling new toys! I mean tools. :D
@@Vintauri I have a 17" monitor that I hope to use for that purpose too. Yours is premium!!
thanks
non magnetic is a show stopper for me
Clearly this is modeled after the 'big boy' fiber laser beds and plasma tables, but I think it is a solution in search of a problem. The reason those big tools use spikes is because the cutters on those tools are powerful enough to cut through not just the workpiece, but also the supporting surface. By reducing that surface to a series of points with lots of clearance between them, and then putting a pool of water beneath that to deal with the heat of the laser/plasma cutter, the cutting beam(s) avoid cutting through the support. (Well, for a while anyway, and then individual rows of points have to be replaced when they become too damaged to hold anything). That issue really doesn't exist with this kind of laser, as a diode laser just isn't going to cut through a ferric metal support. Given the clamping advantages of a honeycomb, and the fact that both allow for adequate ventilation, I don't really see the application for this.
My review of the Atomstack F3
"T" nuts too small for slots can pop out and do when tightening.
Long screws and wingnuts hit my Creality Laser arm interfering with it.
Every other "Toothed" arm is lower than the previous one, material does not even touch them, so what use are they?
Teeth are slightly rounded so it makes the surface quite slippery for the material.
Last the surface is not magnetic.
Not sure if was mentioned but I actually stumbled into a little flaw, I had a cutout I was doing, some square that had fallen into the slots and one side ended up actually sticking up to where the laser head would hit it and completely move the sheet seems like a possible fire waiting to happen. Might burn cleaner but other design is probably a little on the safer side.
You are right that smaller pieces could fall through and stick up. In those cases adding a few tabs to the design would keep them in place and if done right would pop out easily by hand or with a fine razor blade. There are always trade offs.
@@Vintauri Yeah guess never thought about using tabs, use to maybe using them on cnc due to high spinning bit, but I suppose might have to on smaller things with this.
Yeah man that's what I'm thinking could happen. I just got one of these today and I'm returning it. Not just for this reason either.
It nearly happened in this video as well. @10:20 that would be disaster.
Great video. What kind of enclosure did you use?
The enclosure in this video is the Comgrow large enclosure. It works well for doing video as it give me more room for a camera and more light. Otherwise it might be a bit excessive. amzn.to/47hCaH1
Good video. I do have a question but it is about your work area. What is it made out of?
If you are talking about the workbench I was assembling it on, that is a plywood base and then self healing cutting mats on top. amzn.to/40j59pw
@@Vintauri Yes, that is what I was refering too. Thank you .
what enclosure you use in this Video?
That is the Comgrow Large laser enclosure. It works well for video but also lets some of the smoke rise to the top and then it does not always extract well. But if you have a camera and need a simple solution, this does work decently. amzn.to/3TjHHqf
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