I have bought from donner as Well, they make microphones and j have been working on uograding my streaming setup, again, i bought both dynamic and condenser xlr mics they have, and i swear i have never been more impressed with 50 dollar version an an sm7b. Donner truely knows what theyre doing
I bought these and within the first 6mo 1 failed on me. Donner hasnt responded to my emails about it. Any suggestions on how to do warranty with Donner?
Great video. Can i use this with professional lights like Martin Mac Viper, Robe, etc? Or professional controller like Grand MA, Avolites and ChamSys ?
A couple questions: 1. If they don't have the built in batteries do you have to plug each one in to an adapter? 2. Can these be combined with wired DMX? For instance, could you put the transmitter at the end of a daisy chain? Sometimes we might have more nearby lights than if we bought wireless for all.
Another question... if we want to put some stage "spots" on tripods, what figures do you recommend for a non profit organization? Since video will be made we want them white. The Chauvet 4 Bar we already have is way too blue and not bright enough.
Thanks! I only use one of the intimidator spot duo movers which are discontinued. And for software I use Dmxis… which unfortunately is also discontinued which is a huge bummer. That thing was awesome!
@@ScottUhlMusic Thank you for all your efforts to help others! Do you still program lighting? I have 6 movers, 4 scanners, , and 40 LED cans that I need to learn how to program and need as much help as possible. Would you recommend the MYDMX 3.0 software?
I need to look into other software. DMXIS was SO easy, I wish they still had it. But MyDmx is what I was planning on looking into. And yeah I still do program lighting. Both my own, and other people’s light shows as well as teach people how to 👍
What is the prefered wireless way to control DMX here in late2023 early 2024.. is it still these batteryfitted dongles with a powered transmitter or are there better more optimised approaches.?
I haven’t done that personally, so I’m not sure, but I believe that you would need multiple controllers/transmitters since you are receiving on multiple channels
My school uses an ECT Element lighting board. The currect set up for our LEDs uses a transmitter by the stage where we daisy chain. Would the transmitter work without being plugged directly into a board and more specifically a board that does not directly control LEDs?
Do you know, if one of the batteries goes out, if the light will still play it’s current scene? Or does the light turn off, once one of the batteries 🪫 goes out?
That’s a fair question. I’ve never had the batteries die during a performance, so I’m not sure. I’m willing to bet it just stays on the scene though, because it will just stay at whatever the last DMX signal it got
so i’d like to have this setup for my son’s marching drumline. is there a dmx module that i could plug the receiver side into that would control led tape or rope lights?
The light itself does not charge the wireless dongle if that’s what you are asking. But I use battery powered lights with these battery powered DMX dongles all the time 👍
Hey Scott, Scott here too, great name! Lol Thanks for the informative video. Question, I have the ADJ Airstream, could I plug these into that and my lights and run everything off that program on my iPad? Currently all my dance floor lighting is wired up and on a light stand. If this can work for me, I will save so much time not hooking up cables.
I'm a little late to the game here but do you know how many receivers you can use with 1 transmitter? I have 12 fixtures but don't want to spend the extra loot if I can only control 10 with a single transmitter. Thanks and I appreciate your videos!
Hi, there! Good video, I am planning to buy one of these. One question, if you tried: one transmitter and one receiver and after that DMX cables from the first device to others, is that possible. I mean, it's not about being cheap, but for my setup is more convenient, since I have all my lights on powercon plugs linked between, and DMX also linked, so only I will use one receiver for all setup. It will send all the 512 DMX channel on the same receiver and after that from the first device to the others? If you have tested that, I will appreciate an answer. Thanks! And thanks for this video too!
Do they operate with RGBW/Y lights? I mean I have equipments that includes white/yellor colors. I have noticed they just mention they can operate RGB equipments (red, green, blue and combination of them).
Do they just work with 5V power supply or are there spotlights that have phantom power? And if there is, can these be powered that way? (Much like when you use phantom power for microphones with the audio mixer)
@@ScottUhlMusic It should be a thing ;) I've actually been looking for power adapters that go from IEC C14 to USB sockets. It would have been really convenient because so many spotlights have an IEC Power Connector output. (That would have minimized cables and avoided a hanging power supply)
I just bought the pack with 1 transmitter and 3 battery powered dongles but the dongles (none of them) will not power off when I press the power button... they just remain on?
Looking to use these for a permanent install. What happens when the unit loses power and then regains power? Does it turn back on and go to the last known state or do you have to manually power them back on?
I believe you would have to manually turn these on. I would ask, if you are doing a permanent install, why not just use DMX cables? That would be my suggestion personally for a permanent install 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic Trying to keep everything clean and snaking thru the ceiling is going to be a nightmare. We have already tried to setup access panels for this purpose but it looks like the entire ceiling will need to be demo'ed due to multiple layers from past owners. I was also considering the same issue for audio.
Gotcha. That makes sense. I guess you could just always leave it plugged in since you can use these while they are already plugged in, but that might give you the same issue since you need to get power for every single unit. Best of luck man 🤘
@@ScottUhlMusic yeah, i would run all the light on 1 circuit so they can be powered off via a switch...which when turned off would also kill power to these transmitter....time will tell. TY.
So you want to go cable in with DMX and then the wireless out? If that’s what you mean, then no that wouldn’t work. I’m curious why you would need to run it that way? You could do the transmitter out of a DMX out I guess though. And then plug the wireless receivers into other lighting gear. That would work 👍
Cool. Thanks man. I’m just scared of getting expensive lights and someone just stealing my stuff. I feel that with the wire they would think about it a bit more. If that makes any sense.lol
Do I have to have the same color on every Wireless controller connected to the light? If so, I can't control the lights with a Dmx controller separately. If I have red on one light and blue on the other, how can I control it separately on Dmx, if it is even possible. I have an F2 Dmx.
@@ScottUhlMusic Yes, you understand correctly. I tried them with the same color and they can be controlled all at once, but only under the Manual button. If I save them under Scenes, they can only be turned on individually. I also have yet to figure out how the Chase button works. I am a beginner.
If you want every single one to be wireless then you would need 22 of them. But if you want to daisy chain them you can limit the number you need. So say you have 10 pars right next to each other... you could just get 1 wireless receiver to plug into the first one’s DMX in and then daisy chain to the other 9. But if you want them all to be wireless, you’ll need 22. Cheers!
@@ScottUhlMusic Hi Scott, thanks for the video! Have you ever tried to use two transmitters, while using more than seven donner recievers, within the same universe? If so, what where your results? Thanks.
@@matthewgarrison3816You can use multiple transmitters but they must NOT be on the same TX (transmit) channel. You can either use two transmitters on different TX channels (defined by the colour LED during setup) and they COULD be connected to the same DMX controller output XLR socket using an adapter, but to be honest there really is no point in doing that as the range is good for most work using a single TX . . .HOWEVER if you want to reach further afield to either increase range or get around a blind corner that the first TX device cannot reach, then it is possible to use TX No.1 out of the controller, then cable daisy chain your fixtures in the rigging, and then at the end you can use TX No.2 (on a different TX channel) that 'throws' the DMX signal onto the next rigging that may be out of view around a corner (just make sure the fixture receiver your are 'throwing' to is setup to the same channel as the second TX channel. One final point, you dont HAVE to plug the transmitter directly into your controller socket, you could run a DMX cable up to a point mounted higher and plug the transmitter into the end of the cable for an improved and more reliable signal transmisstion. Have fun.
Ok Scott it's getting weird... we have too much of the same gear. Like wayyyyy to similar. Im pretty pumped I can use more than the 7 receivers though! I always thought I was capped at 7 but damn.
@@ScottUhlMusic The other night at a load in I thought my DMX transmitter went out... and I had forgot my backup at home. I cursed myself for not double checking all of my backups! My mind raced thinking of doing a turnaround trip to home and starting the show late. I thought to myself: Scott is gigging somewhere right now with 1000 adapters and backups. Then I realized the DMX transmitter wasn't plugged in. 🤣
Hi Scott! please don't laugh at me but I am so new in the world of DMX. Question: do I need a splitter box if I go with wireless transmitter? neophyteinMichigan
What I am not seeing is the ability to set that "2nd fixture" (and 3rd and 4th) to a different color and control it *independently*. Currently, you have the transmitter's color matching a receiver's color. Fine, BUT, can those two (or more!!) fixtures operate *independently* when going down the Wireless DMX route using one (1) transmitter? Can anyone assist me with this? Thanks!!!
Hey@@ScottUhlMusic ! I appreciate your quick reply, thank you! I did since find the answer to my question; I still need to Address each fixture independently so as to operate them independently. I was mistaken in thinking that the Wireless DMX transmitter/receiver matching light did away with the need for DMX Addressing.
Pro tip use the charge port to change the setting that is how it was designed guess they thought it was ituitiv so they never explain, using a sharp object is the most intuitive thing to do. I AM LOOKING for a button hack, may have to I vent my own. I'll let ya know.
I just got some of these and didn't see anything specified if the receivers will auto power off after a certain period of time if they're not getting any commands or if you if you have to manually power them off. Just curious if they do they auto power off or not? Thanks. And nice information in the video.
@@ScottUhlMusic so if I have these in a permanent installation on the ceiling with some lights up there, would I just leave them on? Curious how much power they are using when idle / not receiving commands
You can leave them plugged into power and leave them on indefinitely I believe. I’m pretty sure they still have a version that is a little cheaper for that as well 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic I have It plugged in. The light is on but it won’t flash and sync. I have it Plugged into a DMxis as well. Does the batter need to be fully charged?
I have bought from donner as
Well, they make microphones and j have been working on uograding my streaming setup, again, i bought both dynamic and condenser xlr mics they have, and i swear i have never been more impressed with 50 dollar version an an sm7b. Donner truely knows what theyre doing
thank you, very clear review and tuto. I'll go with the 4 then more if i need so.
I bought these and within the first 6mo 1 failed on me. Donner hasnt responded to my emails about it. Any suggestions on how to do warranty with Donner?
Great video. Can i use this with professional lights like Martin Mac Viper, Robe, etc? Or professional controller like Grand MA, Avolites and ChamSys ?
Anything that accepts DMX 👍
A couple questions:
1. If they don't have the built in batteries do you have to plug each one in to an adapter?
2. Can these be combined with wired DMX? For instance, could you put the transmitter at the end of a daisy chain? Sometimes we might have more nearby lights than if we bought wireless for all.
1. I only have the ones with the battery so I’m not sure.
2. Yup I believe so 👍
Have u ever tried to DMx in with receiver then DMx cable out to next light
You can do that 👍
helpful. Is there a way to reset them? Mine stopped searching.
I haven’t had to, so I’m not sure on resetting them
Another question... if we want to put some stage "spots" on tripods, what figures do you recommend for a non profit organization? Since video will be made we want them white. The Chauvet 4 Bar we already have is way too blue and not bright enough.
I’m looking for upgrading some of my stage lights myself…. So I don’t have a suggestion for you right now
Very clear and concise demo. Thank you.
Any experience with these on moving head lights and what software do you use?
Thanks! I only use one of the intimidator spot duo movers which are discontinued. And for software I use Dmxis… which unfortunately is also discontinued which is a huge bummer. That thing was awesome!
@@ScottUhlMusic Thank you for all your efforts to help others! Do you still program lighting? I have 6 movers, 4 scanners, , and 40 LED cans that I need to learn how to program and need as much help as possible. Would you recommend the MYDMX 3.0 software?
I need to look into other software. DMXIS was SO easy, I wish they still had it. But MyDmx is what I was planning on looking into. And yeah I still do program lighting. Both my own, and other people’s light shows as well as teach people how to 👍
What is the prefered wireless way to control DMX here in late2023 early 2024.. is it still these batteryfitted dongles with a powered transmitter or are there better more optimised approaches.?
These work great if your lights don’t have wireless built into them 👍
I saw you can set the receivers on a color. Since there are multiple colors, can you program several different colors for a larger set up?
I haven’t done that personally, so I’m not sure, but I believe that you would need multiple controllers/transmitters since you are receiving on multiple channels
My school uses an ECT Element lighting board. The currect set up for our LEDs uses a transmitter by the stage where we daisy chain. Would the transmitter work without being plugged directly into a board and more specifically a board that does not directly control LEDs?
Is it DMX? This is for wireless DMX
@@ScottUhlMusic Yes, the lighting board has a DMX input and output, as well as the transmitter down by the stage.
have you had any issues with latency of the lights firing when using them in an automated light show?
No, it’s worked well 👍
Do you know, if one of the batteries goes out, if the light will still play it’s current scene? Or does the light turn off, once one of the batteries 🪫 goes out?
That’s a fair question. I’ve never had the batteries die during a performance, so I’m not sure. I’m willing to bet it just stays on the scene though, because it will just stay at whatever the last DMX signal it got
so i’d like to have this setup for my son’s marching drumline. is there a dmx module that i could plug the receiver side into that would control led tape or rope lights?
The lighting itself needs to have a DMX input on it
@@ScottUhlMusic cool. do you know of any modules that could be the input
for led tape lights ?
Thanks for the vid.
Do I need a Wi-Fi router for these to work?
Nope, no router needed 👍
Lmaoo hahahah
Awesome info Scott. Are you able to plug the Donner into the light itself to charge?
Yup can plug it into a light and then plug in the power and charge it while using, yes 👍
Awesome. But can you plug it into the battery powered light to charge it without having to plug the light into an outlet?
The light itself does not charge the wireless dongle if that’s what you are asking.
But I use battery powered lights with these battery powered DMX dongles all the time 👍
Yes. I was wondering if the dongle would charge up without the battery powered light being plugged into power while in use.
Does the batteries go bad if you leave them discharged completely for a while? If so, can the battery be changed?
I’m sure just like with any built in rechargeable battery the eventually will eventually die. I do not believe you can change it, but I’m not sure
Can the x32 control dmx lights? Or it has to be DMX specific controller?
You need a DMX controller
Hey Scott,
Scott here too, great name! Lol Thanks for the informative video. Question, I have the ADJ Airstream, could I plug these into that and my lights and run everything off that program on my iPad? Currently all my dance floor lighting is wired up and on a light stand. If this can work for me, I will save so much time not hooking up cables.
I haven’t used the Airstream, but if the way you use it is with standard DMX cables, this should work just fine 👍
I'm a little late to the game here but do you know how many receivers you can use with 1 transmitter? I have 12 fixtures but don't want to spend the extra loot if I can only control 10 with a single transmitter. Thanks and I appreciate your videos!
It definitely can handle 12 for sure 👍
Hi, there! Good video, I am planning to buy one of these.
One question, if you tried: one transmitter and one receiver and after that DMX cables from the first device to others, is that possible.
I mean, it's not about being cheap, but for my setup is more convenient, since I have all my lights on powercon plugs linked between, and DMX also linked, so only I will use one receiver for all setup.
It will send all the 512 DMX channel on the same receiver and after that from the first device to the others?
If you have tested that, I will appreciate an answer. Thanks!
And thanks for this video too!
Yup that will work too 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic thanks mate!
If I have 10 lights and I want to split the 5 and 5 can they run on the same Transmitter?
You can always daisy chain from one receiver with cables 👍
do you need a DMX terminator for the DMX outputs not used
I bought one and never used it.
Do they operate with RGBW/Y lights? I mean I have equipments that includes white/yellor colors. I have noticed they just mention they can operate RGB equipments (red, green, blue and combination of them).
You can use these with any lighting that accepts DMX. If it accepts a DMX cable, these will work with it
How can you control each light individually?
Absolutely
Assignment a dmx channel to each light
It seems the Donner ones aren't available. All I'm seeing are the "Chinny" brand ones. These work the same?
I haven’t used them, but they look basically the exact same. Donner might come back in stock, that happens sometimes on Amazon
Do they just work with 5V power supply
or are there spotlights that have phantom power?
And if there is, can these be powered that way?
(Much like when you use phantom power for microphones with the audio mixer)
Phantom power with DMX? I don’t believe that’s a thing
@@ScottUhlMusic It should be a thing ;)
I've actually been looking for power adapters that go from IEC C14 to USB sockets.
It would have been really convenient because so many spotlights have an IEC Power Connector output.
(That would have minimized cables and avoided a hanging power supply)
... or powercon to a USB socket :)
I just bought the pack with 1 transmitter and 3 battery powered dongles but the dongles (none of them) will not power off when I press the power button... they just remain on?
Push the button twice, or try holding the button a little longer. The ones I use do power off
Do you ever have issues with the transmitters power cable dropping out due to a loose fit?
Nope. These have worked great for me
Looking to use these for a permanent install. What happens when the unit loses power and then regains power? Does it turn back on and go to the last known state or do you have to manually power them back on?
I believe you would have to manually turn these on. I would ask, if you are doing a permanent install, why not just use DMX cables? That would be my suggestion personally for a permanent install 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic Trying to keep everything clean and snaking thru the ceiling is going to be a nightmare. We have already tried to setup access panels for this purpose but it looks like the entire ceiling will need to be demo'ed due to multiple layers from past owners. I was also considering the same issue for audio.
Gotcha. That makes sense. I guess you could just always leave it plugged in since you can use these while they are already plugged in, but that might give you the same issue since you need to get power for every single unit. Best of luck man 🤘
@@ScottUhlMusic yeah, i would run all the light on 1 circuit so they can be powered off via a switch...which when turned off would also kill power to these transmitter....time will tell. TY.
Nice vid!!! Do you know if you can run dmx out with a cable after coming in with a donner?
So you want to go cable in with DMX and then the wireless out? If that’s what you mean, then no that wouldn’t work. I’m curious why you would need to run it that way? You could do the transmitter out of a DMX out I guess though. And then plug the wireless receivers into other lighting gear. That would work 👍
I want to use a donner on the first light and then use dmx wire for another 4 or 5 lights.
Ahhhhhh. Yes you can do that 👍
I do that all the time
Cool. Thanks man. I’m just scared of getting expensive lights and someone just stealing my stuff. I feel that with the wire they would think about it a bit more. If that makes any sense.lol
Do I have to have the same color on every Wireless controller connected to the light? If so, I can't control the lights with a Dmx controller separately. If I have red on one light and blue on the other, how can I control it separately on Dmx, if it is even possible. I have an F2 Dmx.
I would recommend setting them to the same color if I understand your question correctly
@@ScottUhlMusic Yes, you understand correctly. I tried them with the same color and they can be controlled all at once, but only under the Manual button. If I save them under Scenes, they can only be turned on individually. I also have yet to figure out how the Chase button works. I am a beginner.
Hi Scott, i have 20 pars, and 2 moving heads. How many of the receivers do I need? Do I have to purchase a receiver for each light?
If you want every single one to be wireless then you would need 22 of them. But if you want to daisy chain them you can limit the number you need. So say you have 10 pars right next to each other... you could just get 1 wireless receiver to plug into the first one’s DMX in and then daisy chain to the other 9. But if you want them all to be wireless, you’ll need 22. Cheers!
@@ScottUhlMusic Hi Scott, thanks for the video! Have you ever tried to use two transmitters, while using more than seven donner recievers, within the same universe? If so, what where your results? Thanks.
I have not used this with more than one transmitter personally. But you are supposed to be able to do that 👍
@@matthewgarrison3816You can use multiple transmitters but they must NOT be on the same TX (transmit) channel. You can either use two transmitters on different TX channels (defined by the colour LED during setup) and they COULD be connected to the same DMX controller output XLR socket using an adapter, but to be honest there really is no point in doing that as the range is good for most work using a single TX . . .HOWEVER if you want to reach further afield to either increase range or get around a blind corner that the first TX device cannot reach, then it is possible to use TX No.1 out of the controller, then cable daisy chain your fixtures in the rigging, and then at the end you can use TX No.2 (on a different TX channel) that 'throws' the DMX signal onto the next rigging that may be out of view around a corner (just make sure the fixture receiver your are 'throwing' to is setup to the same channel as the second TX channel. One final point, you dont HAVE to plug the transmitter directly into your controller socket, you could run a DMX cable up to a point mounted higher and plug the transmitter into the end of the cable for an improved and more reliable signal transmisstion. Have fun.
Ok Scott it's getting weird... we have too much of the same gear. Like wayyyyy to similar. Im pretty pumped I can use more than the 7 receivers though! I always thought I was capped at 7 but damn.
Yeah man these things are awesome!!
@@ScottUhlMusic The other night at a load in I thought my DMX transmitter went out... and I had forgot my backup at home. I cursed myself for not double checking all of my backups! My mind raced thinking of doing a turnaround trip to home and starting the show late. I thought to myself: Scott is gigging somewhere right now with 1000 adapters and backups. Then I realized the DMX transmitter wasn't plugged in. 🤣
Hi Scott! please don't laugh at me but I am so new in the world of DMX. Question: do I need a splitter box if I go with wireless transmitter? neophyteinMichigan
Nope! You do not 👍
What I am not seeing is the ability to set that "2nd fixture" (and 3rd and 4th) to a different color and control it *independently*. Currently, you have the transmitter's color matching a receiver's color. Fine, BUT, can those two (or more!!) fixtures operate *independently* when going down the Wireless DMX route using one (1) transmitter? Can anyone assist me with this? Thanks!!!
Hmm that I don’t know
Hey@@ScottUhlMusic ! I appreciate your quick reply, thank you! I did since find the answer to my question; I still need to Address each fixture independently so as to operate them independently. I was mistaken in thinking that the Wireless DMX transmitter/receiver matching light did away with the need for DMX Addressing.
Pro tip use the charge port to change the setting that is how it was designed guess they thought it was ituitiv so they never explain, using a sharp object is the most intuitive thing to do. I AM LOOKING for a button hack, may have to I vent my own. I'll let ya know.
Yeah definitely let me know, I use a paper clip 👍
here is a update for the dmxis you show in your links Sorry, the ENTTEC DMXIS 512-Ch USB DMX Interface is no longer available.
Yup, I’m really sad they discontinued it
They still make usb dmx interfaces just discontinued the model
I just got some of these and didn't see anything specified if the receivers will auto power off after a certain period of time if they're not getting any commands or if you if you have to manually power them off. Just curious if they do they auto power off or not? Thanks. And nice information in the video.
They do not have an auto power off. You have to do it manually 👍
@@ScottUhlMusic I figured as much. Thanks for the reply. 🤘
@@ScottUhlMusic so if I have these in a permanent installation on the ceiling with some lights up there, would I just leave them on? Curious how much power they are using when idle / not receiving commands
You can leave them plugged into power and leave them on indefinitely I believe. I’m pretty sure they still have a version that is a little cheaper for that as well 👍
Can u use these for xlr mics so we can go wireless lol
Hahaha no, definitely not. But these can: ua-cam.com/video/gCgIhlSP6Oc/v-deo.html
@@ScottUhlMusic damn lol I tried 🤣🤣🤣 but good lookin out big brotha 💪❤
the real max length?
Real max length?
@@ScottUhlMusic range of wireless which meters?
Mine will not blink I do not understand 🫠
Is the battery dead?
@@ScottUhlMusic I have It plugged in. The light is on but it won’t flash and sync. I have it
Plugged into a DMxis as well. Does the batter need to be fully charged?