DEBATE: Our TOP 10 ALL TIME Players To Never Win The BALLON D'OR! Ft. Iniesta, Henry etc
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Iniesta, Henry or Zlatan? Join us as we debate who was the best player to never win the Ballon D'or! Leave your comments below on what you think!
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The way star slowly walked faze into that hazard trap was as brilliant as OJ’s lawyers getting him off😂 stars you are a fucking legend!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH i’m crying 😭😭
Time stamp?
@@lamentspace around 1:14:00
@Itz Elytra yeah man xX-Faze_al-Xx pro waffler
Lyes ball knowledge is so astronomically clear of everyone on the table. He knows ball. Star player the worst when it comes to knowledge, but he’s a fun character
and fuizzy is the most annoying, get liban in
Fayz is a living mystery. One minute I praise him for his takes and the next I am baffled at how stupid it is. Nonetheless, I love the guy!
Also, starz had a howler there
Please make a top 10 greatest teams in football History
We haven’t seen that one yet
As much as I love this video, it is so much better when sharks has a list. Always good to hear his arguments and such and such.
yea cuz his very good a playing devils advocate
Not having Lampard anywhere in this list is atrocious, not even mentioned by a single persons list, ballon d'Or 2005 he was robbed, 04/05 Chelsea won the league and the league cup, Chelsea broke all sorts of records in doing so, Lampard was integral to the team, won FWA and PFA Premier league player of the season, won Chelseas player of the season, won Englands player of the season, top assister in the league, was in European team of the season. Put up 19 goals and 21 assists in all comps, compared with a Ronaldihno who won La liga and put up numbers of 13 goals and 16 assists all comps, Ronaldinho won it because of the eye test, but to not metion lampard at all in this list is a genuine travesty, awful takes by all round on this one.
Not to even mention other seasons he could have won it, his entire career as one of the best midfielders in the world, 09/10 winning the league and the FA cup, 27 goals and 18 assists in 51 games all comps, not even nominated int he top 23, another travesty, because he's british and his name is Frank.
You trying to tell me Ronaldinho robbed Lampard of a ballon d'or in 2005??? Come off it mate. Lampard had a stellar year but Ronaldinho was by far and away the best footballer in the world in 2005.
recency bias is real. how was there so much hate for hazard but then i hear sadio mane lmaooo
Cause he came 2nd in the balon dor
Big ups faisal for the hazard and suarez prop, bruddah knows ball.
Hazard extremely overrated he really rates hazard above dinho
Torres was a great shout, won his country their first major title, amazing domestic season and was the only player in the world 11 that didn’t win a trophy. Prime Torres was unplayable
Pirlo definitely in the modric , xavi , iniesta category 🐐
Fayz just has real Madrid bias
With Kroos too
No
Comparing sneijder with jorginho is crazy, sneijder was actually top 2 midfielders that year imo
@Itz Elytra in 2010 I rate Sneijder above Xavi slightly but Iniesta above Sneijder
@Itz Elytra I am also a dutch man so maybe a little bias but even if you look at what he achieved that year he was defo top 3 and for me top 2 midfielders
@Itz Elytra you put Xavi above Iniesta that year how??
@Itz Elytrahow old are you ? They weren't, they only finished higher because they won the worldcup..if it was the other way around he would've have won it
@Itz Elytra it isn't 50/50 xavi was better but iniesta got more credit because of that winner .....fact is xavi was Spain and barca moat important midfielder, the rest were replaceable
Lampard 2009/10
27 goals 22 assists in all comps
Fa cup and premier league double pivotal to both , chelsea broke the record for most goals scored in a season he gave 20% of them from central midfield while getting back and making tackles in a team with drogba,anelka,shevchenko,malouda etc , deserves a mention lamps never has and never will get the credit he deserves
Dennis Bergkamp was 2nd for ballon d'or in the year 1993 when he played for inter and 3rd for Ajax the year before , he isn't a bad shout. He was elite at 2 different clubs before joining Arsenal
he was an inter flop
The Pirlo shout is correct btw, if you're the best player on a champions league team and a world cup team, with a ridiculous career, you deserve at least a top 10 shout
Pirlo and modric are in the same category. Ppl haven’t watched young pirlo. He was a number 8 who dribbled past players and carried the ball. Very similar to modric . He became a 6 when he was old. Respect pirlo.
@@hazz2620 agreed, I think people's perception of him is actually skewed by his later Juve years where like you said he was more of a 6. He was called "the maestro" for a reason, he was a fully complete midfielder that pulled all the strings for a long, long time. He's Jorginho if Jorgi was 10x better technically and defensively and as a passer.
@@snoopraptor thank you. People forgetting how he used to dribble past players like they weren’t there and carry the ball from deep exactly like modric.
Actually love the Griezmann pick, he is so underrated🙌🏽
Still crazy how Milito wasn’t even nominated in 2010
The Torres Morata comparison was spot on. No lie I was thinking Morata before he said his name.
The fact that not a single person had wayne Rooney is criminal, deserves a shout over sneijder, van dijk, griezmann, hazard, ribery, suarez
seeing lyes in the lineup just fills me with joy
You odd
The mad thing about this is the fact that if Benz never won the ballon dor yesterday he wouldn’t be in the top 10 to never win it
Hazard for me shouldve won the season modric won it. He was the best player in the WC, just couldnt drag his team to the final. He put up elite numbers at Chelsea and carried that team to a Europa League scoring 2 in the final. Every pundit who watched him said he was arguably the best player in the world at the time. At the end everyone at the table agreed that Modric wouldn't have won if not for Croatia making it to the final, and that is the main crutch of Hazard. As a chelsea fan i feel bad for Eden cos we were so shit for so long but he carried us year after year
Only us chelsea fans knows how amazing he was for us not these delusional arsenal fans taking shit just because he destroyed arsenal so many times.
the hate on xavi as a manager is ridiculous, he's literally had no defenders for the first 2 weeks of october in the most important matches. its like arteta if he lost saliba and gabriel and had to play rob holding at CB.
very true indeed, judging his capabilities as a manager on one year is ridiculous
Read so many comments and watched the whole video and can’t believe Thomas muller hasn’t even had a sniff
I stopped watching at "Modric is closer to Zidane then Pirlo..." - What a ridiculous statement. Shame I couldn't finish the video after hearing that.
When Stars got Faze with the breakdown and trap I pissed myself laughing !! SDS moment of the month LOL
#Sensational Messi 2017 classico settings
new favorite podcast. listened to one before but could not find it. Have a good day yall
43:33 nah that was too funny when he said b fr and b serious LMFAO im in tearss
They got a Madrid fan and 3 prem fans to talk about Xavi and his tactics, but they didn't mention the injuries in defence that fucked us up. If we had all the players available rn we wouldn't lose the classico or draw/lose that inter game I guarantee you that
How quick people forget. Hazard tore up the prem for years with a below par supporting cast when you compare to the likes of Barca, City & Madrid.
full respect to Henry but 2004 Porto run Deco was crazy
Henry was better
We need that prem review bruv
Xavi has 3 times more numbers than iniesta .. if they were counting hockey assists , in the guardiola system , hed have a 60+ easy . Was instrumental to everything happening in the field offensively . Connected everything . Genius , was free of some defensive roles when Busquets arrived
It’s very difficult to have 10 players in your generation that had a year they could’ve won it. There’s only a handful like that bc of Messi & Ronaldo. So some names are based on overall career
This disrespect Pirlo gets is absolutely outrageous. He’s definitely in the same tier and in my opinion better than Modric
Theres no fucking way he said Ribery deserved 2013 but Sneijder/Iniesta didnt deserve 2010, its actually mad
1. Henry
2. Iniesta
3. Suarez
4. Neymar
5. Lewandowski
6. Xavi
7. Busquets
8. Maldini
9. Bale
10. Gerrard
Drogba is a world class Toney. Hold up & linkup play, freekick ability, good in the air etc. Torres and Toney are not similar at all
10. Griezmann
9. Ramos
8. Menuer
7. KDB
6. Lewandowski
5. Suarez
4. Neymar
3. Buffon
2. Lahm
1. Maldini
-That my list players that you should've come close
Saying ramos is not the best defender of all time is crazy he’s at leat top 2 and for me he ain’t the 2nd one
lyes won that spot he should be on every podcast
1. Maldini (top two defenders oat next to beckenbauer)
2. Xavi (sooo underrated. Best midfielder in the world from 2007-2011)
3. Henry (robbed in 2003. Best player in Prem)
4. Iniesta (same thing with Xavi I just prefer Xavi cos he’s genuinely the best passer of all time. Iniesta could dribble better but there’s no individual aspect of Iniesta which is the greatest ever while I find Xavi the best ever passer)
5. Neymar
6. Pirlo (I rate midfielders that highly y’all, second best passer ever, one of the highest footballing iqs ever)
7. Suarez (phenomenal, would’ve deserved it in 2016 if not for Messi and Ronaldo)
8. Lewandowski (genuinely robbed of one)
9. Ramos
10. Nesta (conveniently forgot about one of the greatest defenders to ever exist)
The disrespect to Sergio Ramos
Sneijder single handedly carrier that mediocre Dutch team. Won a treble. Iniesta and Xavi played in the greatest Spanish team arguably the greatest National team in history. Him or Forlan should’ve won best player in that WC. Milito also doesn’t hit those numbers without him. Leaving him off this list is criminal casual ball knowledge.
Neuer has been disrespected
1 lewandowski
2 suarez
3 henry
4 iniesta
5 sneijder
6 ribery
7 xavi
8 neymar
9 salah
10 van dijk
"Yeah l said pirlo🤣 what you going to be about it🤣🤣🤣" obrigado my guys🤣
The fact that the new guy says I don't put defenders in my top 10 says how biased the game is
The discussion is who are the best players who haven't won the ballon'd'or, not who would have had more chances of winning it if Messi and Cristiano didn't exist
video idea: TOP 10 PLAYERS TO NEVER WIN A UCL
I agree with the Pirlo shout, he's in that convo, tier 1....
Ramos has never had a single season peak as high as Van Dijk lol where do these clowns come from? he literally lost the award to the GOAT by 4 votes
Bergkamp was most definitely the best player at arsenal before Henry hit his peak. Just listen to how ex players speak of him
Faysal a madman for that Pirlo slander, respect the maestro. Greatest Italian Midfielder ever!
Actually can’t believe Bale didn’t get a point. Arguably at points, he was the third best player in the world behind Messi and Ronaldo. Won so much and didn’t coast those games either. Especially with some names shouted out here
Pirlo is in the same elite (___) as zidane, inesta, Modric, busquets
Pirlo was dissed bad, they put kante ahead of pirlo🤯
53:27 ”I did it of the top of my head” meanwhile he’s been talking about this list for about 50 minutes 😂😂😂😂 and stars compared Zlatan to immobile which is another madness hahahaha you need to be substituted bro bring in Liban
He even pulled out the article during the vid 😂😂😂
I think Ramos and Sneijder were far too disrespected in this list
The disrespect to Griezmann is crazyyyy
Do a top 10 teams of all time ..
lets be honest, the most dribbles is the stupidest argument, but that is literally a argument that a certain fanbase use basically in every argument and the ''most'' ballon dor argument even tho ballon d'or is the most corrupt award show in football history.
Ilyas is just BS when it comes to Sneijder, he just said about Ribery that he deserved the Ballon Dór cuz he won the treble, but when it comes to Sneijder it's not working like that. He is 100% a Barca fan 😂
Predict the World Cup team of the tournament
The best defender is baresi that doesn’t mean he is better then maldini
The best defenders ever are maldini,ramos top 2
The disrespect to Pirlo makes me sick
Faysal take on Ramos..........flippin hell
As an American, I was happy to see Lyles on the show showing us Americans know ball. But… my brother in Christ… Lyles, you’re ball knowledge this episode made me feel betrayed.
My Top 10 in no particular order before watching the video:
Maldini
Baresi
Henry
Iniesta
Lewandowski
Xavi
Vieira
Buffon
Pirlo
Maradona
Players just missing:
Suarez
Nesta
Gerrard
Cafú
Casillas
Lampard
Neuer
Ramos
Salah
Alves
EDIT: After watching the video I noticed I made the list completely different way than them. I just named the 10 best players in general for me that hasn´t won Ballon D'or. Their list more of a list of 10 players that got snubbed in for Ballon D'or voting or 10 players who should have won it. Another thing that drives me crazy is that the video title says ALL TIME and you just talk about the last 20 years. It´s completely fine that you just talk about players you have seen playing yourselves but please don't call it ALL TIME if nothing that happened before 2000 has any effect on these kinds of lista. Just name the videos like "Top 10 players to never win a Ballon D'or after 2000" or mention it in the beginning of a video that you're only going to talk about players you have seen playing yourselves and everything is good.
Just found out your channel couple of days ago and your videos are very entertaining. Waiting for some more quality content!
The immobile shout isn’t bad
Look at his numbers in serie A
Was about to say the same thing. He’s very underrated. You can’t be a bum and have a European golden shoe.
Van Dijk ahead of Ramos is criminal
I think Diego Costa in his Chelsea days is the closest to Liverpool Torres.
Lmao that brother who looks adin Ross is off his head
great video, anyone know what brand sharkys hoodie is?
The disrespect to hazard is crazy. He was the best player in the premier league for most of the times he was at Chelsea for
Nah man, claiming Ramos as the greatest defender is outta pocket
Pirlo literally was the only creative hub for Italy and they still haven’t replaced his creativity yet. Massive Lyes W, Faysal speaks like he’s never watched Pirlo play
he got agendas man. hazard ramos modric hmm what are the similarities..
He said Pirlo cant influence a game like Modric 😭 Pirlos career literally consisted out of of influencing every single game he ever played in
Haha just wrote that as well. Definitely didn’t watch him play
The guy is clueless, talking about Hazard like he’s Messi and talking about Pirlo like he’s Henderson
Hes got an agenda the same way he said neymar is better than r9 pele dinho but refuses to put him near cr7 is crazy.
You know Sharky is leveling up, when he gets Ferran Torres in an sds podcast right after scoring in a classico 👏👐🤣
Faysal is sick. Pirlo was the definition of controlling the game and he had a plethora of passes in him.
Takes everything so personally lol, Modric has a shout for being better but 0/10 take
Yep he is seriously ill
He honestly has the worst takes I’ve ever heard, man was talking about Pirlo like he’s Scott Mctominay
man was waxing on hazard but disrespect pirlo
He's right though. Pirlo is an all time great but he's overrated by people who are only old enough to have watched him towards the end of his career at Juventus. He's not in that Zidane, Xavi, Iniesta, Modric bracket. Genuinely, Lampard, Gerrard and Scholes were better. Not much better and I'd group them all in the same bracket but they were better.
Pirlo astronomically underrated
FFF got da Sickness
I used to think Faysal knew ball but in recent weeks he's had so many shit takes, this one is probably the worst.
I feel like Neur is so underrated. Should’ve been at least top 10
you guys need to do a Iconic Players draft challenge part 2 but by country, just before the world cup. Other video is so good
Funny how with Kante we now think about what he did at Chelsea and France, and we forget that he made on of the greatest runs to a title of all time with Leicester, while arguably being the best player on that team, ESPECIALLY when you realize his journey to the top and where he came from.
He probably wasnt the best, but he was the most important
@@limpan9999 Yeah I mean you could argue Vardy, maaybe Mahrez, but it's also skewed by those two being attackers and therefore having flashier stats. Kante dominated premier league midfielders with ease on a team where he really shouldn't have been able to.
@@limpan9999 Kante freed up Vardy and mahrez and allowed them to do their thing just like he does with pogba for France
Kante won PL player year in 2017 with Chelsea also, and Leicester went back to being midtable right after he left with same team
Bro when they said he was the best player in the UCL win I knew they don’t watch him, any Chelsea supporter knows he was great in the last 2 games, but mount was our best player
Faysal as of late usually doesn’t miss but that pirlo take was a howler
But it is true modric is better. He is 37 at his age iniesta was in japan xavi in qatar. Pirlo mls. And modric is from croatia a worse country and still got to his team far. He is much better. But faysal needs to give credit to pirlo he was amazing
@@abdullahiomar20 Pirlo is undoubtedly the better footballer.
@@abdullahiomar20 I think it's honestly debatable between Pirlo and Modric, Modric probably does get the nod overall but saying that Pirlo isn't on that level is kinda outrageous. And sure, Modric is better at his age than Pirlo was at the same age, but Pirlo was an absolute beast for a long, long time, and if you put Modric on any other team than Madrid it's probably no contest that Pirlo was as good if not better.
@@abdullahiomar20 ibra is better at 40 years old than Henry. So is ibra better? nice logic
@@abdullahiomar20 Pirlo completed football when he was 27, stop talking, Pirlo is a better player than Modric 100%
Hazard’s 2018/19 season was his best season imo. He finally got to play in a more possession based attacking system under Sarri and he flourished. 2018 as a whole he was outstanding (second half of 2017/18, World Cup, 2018/19) so that was the year I would’ve chose if he was to be in contention for balon d’or.
Van Dijk definitely winning that year if no Messi
@@jaredganesan1896 Hazard had the better year
@@waheezy you waffling. No he didn’t.
@@siyamabuza182 most influential player for their team so yes he did
@@waheezyMost influential for his team, sure but VVD was arguably the most important player for Liverpool that season and he won the UCL. He actually came second in the ballon d’or that season so it’s a fact he would have won it if Messi and Ronaldo didn’t exist. You have no case for Hazard.
Van dijk is clear of Ramos as a defender. And hazard is the most overrated player to play the sport
I love this cast so much, the chemistry between them the banter, the knowledge it’s got everything. All star line up
Liban >
starting xi imo
Faysel aint got no knowledge
I miss sugar shaun!! What’s happened to him?
@@davidkrapenshitz668 Got taken off for saying liverpool fans were responsible for hillsburough and multiple tweets when he was racist and said the N word
this 4 + Liban are the perfect SDS pod. That 5 man pod would be golden
Disrespectful to kante, people still talk about him like he’s makelele’s regen.
Kante is so much more than just a DM, he is also a world class box to box. underrated passing.
without kante, chelsea don’t win 16/17 premier league and 20/21 champions league.
Never seen a player like kante and I don’t think we’ll see a player like him for a very long time.
don't forget Leicester's title tooo
@@kevinparada7691 and PFA player of the year
It’s funny how busquet and Casemiro has had a better career . I have to say , Kante is overrated. Yes he won , but he’s not a top top player as you say
@@Enoch_fit maniacal comment
“They all eat at the same table, some of them might have more food on their plate but they all eat at the same table.”
This guy is amazing. Needs to be on every week.
18:00
Poetry one would say
Pains me how much the brudda in the Adidas hoodie has no clue about Pirlo 🤣
@@sinless4088 'brudda in the Adidas hoodie' is sooo disrespectful, uve clearly never watched before
@@Aditya_Jayaram I didn't, hence me calling him the brudda in the Adidas hoodie and not his name. His view on Pirlo is plain and utter idiocy.
The Bergkamp shout isn't crazy because he came 2nd in the Ballon d'or list in 1993. If it wasn't for Baggio, he was taking it. He was phenomenal for Ajax
Bergkamp is one of the greatest players of his generation. Put it this way, when he was at Ajax, he outperformed Marco Van Basten. Put that into context. Bergkamp is criminally underrated, possibly more so than Pirlo.
@@garymaidman625 Lol no
@@sib1930 yes
@@garymaidman625 one of the biggest shames of the modern era. The only player that can be compared to Bergkamp is Zidane
@@DustyFC exactly, I don't use this term lightly when it comes to footballers, but Bergkamp was majestic. A player who is very similar in technical ability and style who is perhaps even more criminally underrated is a player that R9 and Romario both named as the best forward they have ever played with, a Belgian player for PSV Eindhoven by the name of Luc Nilis. If you aren't familiar with him, do yourself a favour and look up a compilation of his goals. He could score every type of goal.
This is easily the best line up, faysal and lyes is prime xavi and iniesta
CONGRATS TO BIG BENZ!
Ronaldo hasn’t said that .
Henry never deserved the Ballon d'Or. I'll explain why. 1) Played in the third strongest (at best) league in the world at the time. Both Serie A and La Liga were far superior to the Prem in the early-to-mid 2000s, so his performances/ stats were never going to catch the eye ahead of players like R9 and Shevchenko. 2) Did absolutely jackshit in Europe in the 2001-02, 2002-03 and 2003-04 seasons. The ''Invincibles'' choked against pre-Mourinho Chelsea with guys like Damien Duff and Jasper Gronkjear (lol) and the season before they finished behind Valencia and Ajax in the group stages, going out in Matchday 6, the last day. In 01-02, lost away to Schalke, Panathinaikos and Mallorca. They then lost away at Juventus, who fielded their B team because they were already out of the second group stages and Arsenal STILL lost and went home despite only needing A POINT to qualify. They also lost home and away to Deportivo in the same campaign. The Inter team they beat 1-5 at San Siro (a team who had just lost their manager btw) also beat them 0-3 at Highbury, which people conveniently forget. That Inter team also reached the semi-final, whereas Arsenal couldn't even get to the knockouts. 3) He wasn't that impressive for France. Besides the fact that he was never the main man for the national team because of Zizou, who even at an advanced age was the daddy of world football, he never really did anything himself for the national team. People still had the failures of 2002 in their minds, and Euro 2004 was another failure for them (I am aware those tournaments were part of the seasons on either side). His international career was nothing to shout about, and he never stood out those years.
Finally, I know people will bring up the fact that Ballon d'Or is voted on by journalists and people like that, but we also had the FIFA World Player of the Year award going on concurrently, which was only voted on by players and managers, and he never won that, either, which means he wasn't rated as the best player in the world for any season even by his peers. In '02 it was R9, in '03 it was Zidane, and in '04 it was Ronaldinho.
Fact is, Henry never deserved any of these awards, and that's the proof right there.
You guys need to check your boy about that water carrier remark about kante. Kantè is a top tier talent his athleticism, stamina and his ability to read the game sets him apart from a lot of great dm’s of the past 20-30 years.
For example I personally think you can swap kantè for Casemiro and Madrid still do win what they win if not more domestic trophies. And I highly doubt Casemiro wins the prem with Leicester
Kante is the best defensive midfielder of all time imo, back to back motm in semi plus the finale + World Cup, prem with Leicester. UEFA best player. It’s a stretch saying it but he’s my goat
Sneijder in 2010 comes to mind for me immediately
Ribery 2013 comes to mind immediately
@@abusaeed5083 Lewandowski in 2021 comes to my mind immediately.
@@RB-bm7cl only thing lewa had more was goals
@@RB-bm7cl na that one wasn't bro 2020 lewa messi got 2021
This is THE starting lineup for SDS! Iyes and Faysal have very good ball knowledge, but also have different views on certain topics. Starplayer is pure vibes, that Hazard trap even got me lmao.Great episode boys!
Gotta respect squad depth though, Ilyas and Liban together is a better partnership than Son and Kane 😅
Star player is replaceable
can tell it's gonna be a good one just by seeing the lineup
Faisal is mad for that pirlo thought, pirlo is the one that started midfielders with that level of creativity. Not saying modric is bad but pirlo is up there
Yeah if you measure midfielders only in creativity. But You cant have Pirlo on his own dragging a team to anything like gerrard did liverpool in 05. He cant do what a Viera can do. fair enough he is the best player at doing what he can do. but he doesn't come close to players that can do more than one thing.
@@123kidxpac123pac Not sure this take is on point. Pirlo honestly didn't have any weak points, maybe pace as he got older but he was the best player on a world cup winning team, won multiple champions leagues, dominated at multiple positions in his career, and honestly might be one of the best passers of all time. He absolutely controlled games for over a decade, got older, and started a dynasty with Juve for another 6-7 years as a stellar DM. I'm not saying he's the best of all time, but he is absolutely in the top tier of midfielders over the last 25 years
Beckham deserves a shout for what he did in '99
nowhere near the best that year lol
@@asianwarrior2193 Apparently he was second best.
Beckham was elite that season one of the best player in that team
20min and one of the best episodes, the grizzzman pick 😭😭😭😭
Grizi finished 3rd twice and without messi and ronaldo would have won in 2016