Files new sidebar design, Ft GNOME 45 | MR !1233
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
- Files port to Adwaita 1.4 widgets for GNOME 45 (hopefuly)
Draft: Split headerbars design (Files MR1233)
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Port to new Libadwaita Widgets for 45
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"Rethink Adaptivity" blog post
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ciki ciki bam bam bam :p
Despite the extreme amounts of cringe this looks like a cool set of changes, I am happy GNOME is getting ready for another polished release!
it's still just a foot, not a proper DE for doing actual work
@@youtubeenjoyer1743 producing all this "cringe" in a single PC (and not even fast), actually proves how good the foot is for getting the work done!!
@@mii_beta a foot is fine too
When you showed old desing I was shocked how much better new design looks :O
One cannot know how bad something is until it sees better solution.
Thank you for the news
That dance animation at the end looks great!
ua-cam.com/video/lYtX0mjyvws/v-deo.html
Mii dances it better ofc :p
Looks awesome!
I like this development in the GNOME 45 design, it will be great
Love it! But what us the idea behind making the inactive tabs not look like tabs and therefore seemingly non-clickable? I can promise some older or non tech savvy people will be confused by this
Cool, this looks much better. I wonder if changing hamburger menu placement was a good idea, since it breaks somewhat established standard on gnome apps have been following. Also at 0:04 is there a bug? ctrl + z is assgined to redo and undo
in many core apps the menu is on teh left (ie Settings), and thats the HIG for apps with double headerbars anyway; plus the community apps put it anywhere (ie Amberol which is written by a core GNOME dev)
obviously that s/c is a bug (on string), but how the hell you even noticed on a video!?
@@mii_betaI think that NOW is the moment to move the close button to the left and place the hamburger where close button is placed right now.
Close button to the left is by far more intuitive.
it looks fine, but I don't know if im a fan of the hamburger menu on the left
Ohhh looks great
I am only here for intro and outtro!! btw, no mention of kde in this video😂
I use window buttons on the left... that may look strange with those
Buttons on the left is not the default. Designers usually don't care about non-default customizations. Keep defaults, and have less problems.
@@tomaszgasior772bruh
Looks good, similar to Mac and Zorin theme.
Move the control buttons to the left and you've got current Finder.
now to put back system tray and icons on the desktop
The new OverlaySplitView looks amazing. Transition from full to small should be animated 0:14. Is there any reason to display back and forward buttons in disabled state before user has done any navigation?
the sidebar reveal animation has been lost with the drop of Flap (even before Overlay split), and i dont know if they put it back; about the buttons why should be active if they cant navigate anywhere (if i understood correctly)?
I didn't even notice that!
I recently moved back to Fedora 38. I'm unable to use drag and drop from file manager to browser. Left top corner doesn't open app overview any more. Am I missing something here ?
that left corner was previously a bug on Xorg, but it is supposed to be fixed; are you using Xorg? if so, give a try to Wayland (or vice versa)
@@mii_beta Yes I'm on Xorg. Will check with Wayland
Edit: Relised I've installed nvidia drivers. So Wayland is not supported on my old laptop due to nvidia. Without nvidia drivers, performance is not ideal for using the laptop. Thanks for helping me out ☺️
can you still put the close button and other window controls on the left?
yeah, at least for now (i just tried it)
I'd appreciate a setting to make `Ctrl`+`L` to enter a location the default. That is costing me 0.000001s every time 🤓Alas that was complained for already over and over again 😩
but plasma 6...
whats Plasma 6?
that desktop that bumps releases according to Qt versions? 😅🤣😂
When does 45 come out?
Sept 2023, and it had an alpha release 2 days ago
Yayy
Looks like Finder
While it looks gorgeous, the sidebar is still annoying. It insists on displaying "Books" together with the network shares rather than with the "Videos" and "Pictures" (yeah, yeah, I know, they're bookmarks, but it still doesn't make any sense), and the sidebar only hides on very narrow windows, not when I try to put two windows next to each other. I would need to buy a bigger monitor for that use case.
No matter how nice it looks, it's still a waste of space given how rarely I use it.
(That's me being negative again. Don't mind me. :) )
I think there should be a shortcut to hide the nav bar for sure.
I dont like the 2 different colour theme thing though. Makes it look like its not a whole window, but rather 2 seperate things stuck together. Not yet as horrible as with macOS though. There it makes even less sense because part of the window is transparent.
GNOME Developers think it is their job is to endlessly break the people's muscle memory and the grown sense of being accustomed to the UI in exchange for "improvements" which can't actually be quantified in any way. They move UI elements around, endlessly change behavior, remove settings both exposed and hidden in dconf, which people relied on for decades. It would have been fine if the product was rock solid. I'm prepared to tolarate the UX designer's sadism in exchange for a working system I can rely on, and yet there are numerous bugs that plague their releases. For example in the 44.1 (which is now "stable" in Gentoo) there are literally files that don't disappear after deleting them. Basic file manager functionality. And there are many more, including stuttering related, to the point that Windows 95 was more smooth than the modern Linux Desktop with CPU and GPU 100x faster. I only use Gnome because KDE is even more buggy, and follow this channel to gaze into the abyss of horror.
dude nobody's forcing you to update
@@raidev_ Umm what? The package dependency tree linking fresh gnome to to other needed packages, vulnerabilities, hardware and standard changes are forcing me to update. I literally had to update from Ubuntu 16.04 because chromium stopped working with the older versions of the libraries. And because the old kernel and the surrounding userspace won't even load on Zen4. And I would have to update to gnome 45 at least, because there are like 3-5 serious bugs, in hope that they wouldn't add something completely system breaking after fixing these.
More perplexing is that this constant shifting UX is payed for by Redhat, as if their customer base are novelty seeking teenagers, and not serious organisations that need stable workflows and predictability.
@@ultraveridical of course you have to update from an os from 2016, but like you don't have to bother with the changes every time they release a new gnome desktop
@@raidev_ I'm not opposed to software being updated, I'm opposed to frequent breaking changes in the UX (especially if they are pointless like they often are in GNOME) and API (if not warranted by something serious). I like it when say ffmpeg becomes faster at encoding or decoding, or supports a newer format. I'm on a rolling release distro now and I have to update everything at least once per 1-2 months. Holding back package versions is not an option due to the complexities and breakage involved, loss of automation. And even when I was on Ubuntu, it was still basically a rolling release distro, just a slower or more manual one, because even 2 years after the LTS release you begin to experience the various negative side effects of it being outdated. As a developer I had to build a whole separate tree of fresh libraries from source anyway for various reasons. It was tedious and uncomfortable. And I tried "not bothering with every release" before. Is there a big difference between updating once every 2 years like with Ubuntu LTS and updating more often? I don't think there is much. They put fresh gnome in the LTS releases (Gnome 42 released on 2022-03-18 in 22.04 LTS released on 2022-04-21, with all the fresh bugs for example) and half the bugs I found in Gentoo are on the launchpad too, with links to GNOME's gitlab. Even if they backport the fixes (which they often don't) it's half a year to a year living with the bugs. And due to the sudden software changes in the whole system updates you would still spend at least a week re-configuring, re-tuning everything anyway, applying workarounds, instead of doing it in a more spread out fashion. Is there difference between drinking the poison every month or drinking the same amount all at once? Would I avoid getting functionality broken in GNOME by doing less frequent updates? No. I would have to update eventually, and the changes would reach me this way. For example right now I no longer can see the actual names of books and articles due to undisablable "..." ellipsis in Files in list view. They put it in the middle of the filename, and books with the filenames that start with three authors and end with a publisher and a year only show that -- authors, publisher and a year, with the actual names being ellipsized. I wouldn't even dare to file a bug report due to the known arrogance and callousness of the core Gnome devs in regards to UX issues like these. The Gnome's target audience ever since the Gnome Shell release aren't the people who need to read books or articles with long names and lots of authors, but basically the author of this channel, salivating over the button moves and the fresh new look.
@@ultraveridical if you're having specific issues like that maybe go talk to the gnome developers... im not sure what do do with all that information
I wish the speaker, the "voice", would speak with a Japanese accent. You know, English with a Japanese accent. Is such a thing possible?
im not sure you can give a Japanese accent, but you can train a custom model (with a japanese speaker) that hopefully will be close to it; the main problem is that it currently costs $4000, otherwise i would had done already :)
those are Azure prices btw; it needs 90 hours training audio with $50 per computation hour; and it needs extra for adding two languages (both English and Japanese)
@@mii_betaif you input English into the Japanese voices, they'll speak English with a Japanese accent. And you don't even azure for that, there's clipchamp or whatever it's called
@@kuwandak did that with Chinese (kinda working ua-cam.com/video/aWruRsxMFtk/v-deo.html ) , but doesnt seem to work with Katana (jp)
Now if only they add back support for disks in the sidebar.. annoying af
Nah
The places label is bad. Me no likey.
Will Fedora survive the new Redhat hate mindset among the Linux community?
hear this. NOBODY WILL CARE AS LONG AS FEDORA DELIVERS GOOD SOFTWARE;
politics and ethics? pff..
Ewww
Agreed, hamburger menu on the right looks much better than this. The rest of the changes seem ok
KDE > GNOME
Snap > Flatpak
@@mii_beta I agree with both of these. Kubuntu best. And I'm looking forward to the Snap-based Ubuntu version.
+ Hoping that Canonical will turn LXD into something good, maybe hopefully even better than Podman & Docker somehow and not require the end users to download extra stuff like these & Distrobox etc to have easy to use containers.
@@ccelik97 someone still hoping for Canonical, is more fun than KDE > GNOME
@@mii_beta I'm still hoping good things for it because it's still getting better.