MikroTik CRS326-24G-2S+IN Review: More Speed for Less

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  • Опубліковано 12 гру 2024

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  • @leocelente
    @leocelente 3 роки тому +131

    Can't wait for the 1h supercut of just Patrick saying product names

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 роки тому +32

      Especially since I am so bad at it.

    • @Noughtta
      @Noughtta 3 роки тому +5

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo they really don’t make it easy though! Love the content, looking at something like this for my homelab. Thank you for all the great reviews!

    • @GatewayITTutorials
      @GatewayITTutorials 3 роки тому +3

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo no one is good at pronouncing these :D

    • @wmopp9100
      @wmopp9100 3 роки тому

      lets make rap battle between Patrick and Tim from Hardware Unboxed (Tim will be doing TFT product names)

  • @trebekanalbumcover
    @trebekanalbumcover 3 роки тому +25

    I purchased the RM version this week and have verified that it now has a heat sink on the chip behind the SFPs.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 роки тому +5

      Thank you for this. That is a challenge we have, updates over product lifecycles since reviews are usually a point in time.

  • @andljoy
    @andljoy 3 роки тому +12

    If they added PoE to that it would be the only home lab switch you would ever need. It can run router OS so it can be a baby top of rack or a layer 3 switch ..... so cool.
    "accidentally" tripping over a power cord is my favourite way of updating switch firmware if you cannot get planned downtime " oh no , i tripped over the power cable .... what a shame "

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 роки тому +4

      Are you thinking of something like the CRS328-24P-2S+RM ? ua-cam.com/video/XPzy7XOfp7M/v-deo.html

    • @andljoy
      @andljoy 3 роки тому +3

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo Do you know how much money you have cost me linking that. I was going to wait for my birthday and buy more ram for my dual 2660V2 system but noooo STH has to link a switch i cannot resist.

    • @deineroehre
      @deineroehre 3 роки тому

      @@andljoy CRS328-48P-4S+RM - if you need 24 more spare POE-Ports for your phones or Access Poins or a farm of RasPis with POE-Head. This Switch is more suitable for Serverrooms instead of normal home use, but who knows, perhaps you want to be future ready, 4 SFP+ Ports are enough for 2 Servers and Uplinks to another switch...

  • @agukasian
    @agukasian 3 роки тому +8

    If you are worried of the power brick failing, you can get a poe injector and an additional power brick and power it both with the power brick and the poe injector. I believe /system health would show both voltages and you would be able to monitor power failure for both power sources.

    • @Kregorius
      @Kregorius 3 роки тому

      I am not a network man, but wanted a good setup for my home. Got a preconfigured Mikrotik netPower 16p with lots of access points and stuff from local dealer. It has 24v and 48v power bricks.
      Run a short test before installing and... 24v brick was dead as a dodo. 48v brick run the netPower fine, but none of the 24v Poe lines got any power. Took a good moment to notice some lines in log that said low power etc. Again, I am not a networking man. This was annoying as F to figure out. I have bricks run into current protection and need to "reset". I have bricks failed when wires brake. It was first time in my life seeing a DOA brick. Luckily I had a good 24v 6,5A brick to replace it with. Will open the DOA one up when I get a moment. Actually want to know what failed.

  • @d00dEEE
    @d00dEEE 3 роки тому +30

    Be aware that the PoE-in is passive, and won't work with your active 802.3af/at output devices.

  • @St0ner1995
    @St0ner1995 3 роки тому +17

    i actually quite like the DC power port because i can easily hook it up to a 12 or 24v battery backed up system, meaning i don't need a (compared to DC/DC converters) inefficient AC inverter and AC power supply

    •  3 роки тому

      could atlso hook it directcly to a car's acessory port or even directly to a battery. dont know why you would but in an emergency it would do in a pintch.

    • @BenState
      @BenState 3 роки тому

      You think a platinum power supply would be less efficient than your battery setup? Pray tell.

    • @laszu7137
      @laszu7137 2 роки тому

      @@BenState Best case efficiency of 0.94 is still less than 1. But that is without the DC to AC stage that adds another around 0.85 efficiency into the chain.

    • @BenState
      @BenState 2 роки тому

      @@laszu7137 What nonsense. The loss is 6% total at around 50% load. Why would you convert DC and then back to AC?

    • @laszu7137
      @laszu7137 2 роки тому

      @@BenState I wouldn't, that's the point. You are the one advocating integrated power supply powered by a UPS. I am using batteries connected directly to my networking equipment.

  • @luma5756
    @luma5756 3 роки тому +5

    I just wanted to say the audio quality/microphone quality seems to be top notch. Sounds good. Keep it up.

  • @satamototo
    @satamototo 3 роки тому +9

    You didn't mention one little but very important feature that is common for MikroTik: wide power input on the DC jack :) You can use 12v power adapter easily if 24v one get lost...

  • @webluke
    @webluke 3 роки тому +2

    Still rocking my CRS125-24G-1S-2HnD that did work as a router when speeds were below 50Mbps. The RB4011iGS+ router now does a great job for my 100Mbps connection. I do have a CRS112-8P-4S for powering a few cameras and powering the RBwAPG-5HacT2HnD. I have thought to jump over to Ubiquiti Unifi after using them in a number of small businesses as a managed service, but the Mikrotik gear is so solid and lower cost its hard to make the jump. And yes I typed out all those crazy model numbers, they do have a meaning like 24G is 24 1 gig ports, 2S+ is 2 SFP+ ports, and so on. I found out about Mikrotik from my friend who ran a WISP I helped build in 2002, he ran all his backend off Mikrotik along with the CPEs and Tower radios, now Ubiquiti has some slick fast, and low-cost equipment to make that so much less frustrating.

    • @deineroehre
      @deineroehre 3 роки тому

      You are comparing professional stuff like Mikrotik or Cisco with this ubiquiti toys - this is simply another league.
      Ubiquiti is OK and suitable for home network with 3 or 4 Access Points, but complex setups like several SSIDs over multiple VLANs is absolutely unreliable and with every update ubiquiti damages another function. The GUI on a debian server or cloud key is neat and simple TBH, suitable for beginners, easy setup of networking indeed and they are cheap - but this does not count if it works roughly 24 hours and then the acess points have to be restartet in order to get them working again. For home use OK, nothing for businesses or other professional environment.
      A Mikrotik cAP AC is 68€, the same function as an Ubiquiti UAP Pro ac is 125€ - so there is no point in buying nonfunctional hardware like Ubiquiti just for the sake of the really nice GUI at the ubiquiti stuff.

    • @webluke
      @webluke 3 роки тому

      @@deineroehre Ya Ubiquiti has a slick interface and that makes it easy to use. The experience I have with them puts them on par with any Cisco business system. We were running a small WISP all on Unifi other than the edge Mikrotik router everything else was city area networking some fiber some fixed wireless and it was so easy to drop an Unifi switch on the network and just set the correct VLAN and ports were active for customer internet. We also had 50+ small-medium businesses on our controller with hundreds of APs, Switches, and Gateways. I could just get on the Unifi app on an iPad with LTE and do anything I needed. Some of the more complex sites were multi-tenant office buildings, fiber coming in, each suite has its own VLAN network with WiFi and hardlines and just a few taps on the iPad and we could set things up for new people. Did I mention you don't get bent over backward for licensing fees and you can run your own controllers, ya have fun when Cisco sticks out their hand each year or your network goes down.

  • @jasondicioccio880
    @jasondicioccio880 3 роки тому +5

    It is confusing, but that 'Upgrade firmware' / 'Current firmware' thing makes a little more sense when you get what it's referring to. It's not referring to your RouterOS OS version. Rather, it's referring to the RouterBoard firmware version, which is a separate thing. If you want to upgrade it, just press that upgrade button at the top and reboot.

  • @rfekztjpkrpd4988
    @rfekztjpkrpd4988 3 роки тому +25

    Outside engineering guess: The external power supply is just cheaper than an internal one. And in this price category, even 2$ saved on manufacturing will end up in maybe 10-20$ cost of the device with tax.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 роки тому

      This is totally the case. It is always hard to make these trade-offs.

    • @Birdulon
      @Birdulon 3 роки тому +12

      Mains inputs tend to have regulatory concerns (electrical safety, EMI emissions compliance etc.) that low voltage DC devices can sidestep. Getting a single plug pack tested+certified and using that for a range of your products (or even just bundling a plug pack someone else made) can make life a lot easier and cheaper, especially if you sell to a global market!
      Also tends to remove some of the heat generation from the chassis, which can be somewhat relevant for passively cooled equipment which likes to have as much surface area as possible.

    • @eldoradoboy
      @eldoradoboy 3 роки тому +3

      the number of enterprise grade appliances i have had fail simply because the internal power supply created extra heat, or had a fan fail has been fairly high.. we are Telecom.. most phone systems are not located in nice clean filtered server rooms.. Fanless gear lasts longer.. with Mirotik devices they all pretty much use the same power supply so i can stash one or 2 spares on every install and a failure is easily walking the customer through swapping the brick.. easy, done, and site back online in no time.. vs an internal supply failure requiring I overnight a whole never device to site

    • @kindanyume
      @kindanyume 3 роки тому

      no its not a simple cost issue
      its a serviceability issue not to mention with the poe option of having ac to dc internal is a potential waste and added complexity with no benefit,

  • @paolocanali3361
    @paolocanali3361 3 роки тому +5

    The DC input enables a cheap and easy way to have two independent power supplies to get advantage from A+B rack power rails. Just build a nice Y cable adapter to join the positive terminal of two DC power bricks trough two diodes, and you have a very good poor man ATS. This hardware hack saved my day at least once. By the way, we use better quality power supplies than the cheap one that came with the switch.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 роки тому

      Paolo - mind sharing what you use for PSUs? I usually swap them out for Mean Well power supplies if I install them in racks.

    • @paolocanali3361
      @paolocanali3361 3 роки тому

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo I use Mean Well: GST60A24-P1J , and another model with different barrel connector diameter for the few Mikrotik switches that need this alternate size.

  • @MirkWoot
    @MirkWoot 3 роки тому +2

    Interesting. I got a 309-1G-8S+IN, for the backbone of my homelab/home network, and I am pretty happy with it, so good a price, not all plastic, etc. but wow yeah.. its already said, the management is not the greatest.
    I'd love to see more videos about the management of it.
    Cisco switches were the first switches I learnt how to do VLANs on(older ones), and I didn't like it to begin with, but I started to love it, and after trying to make VLANs on a mikrotik, I love the Cisco way even more lol, even when all Commandline. ... Mikrotik VLANs: "mode enable.. strict.. optional or any.. + any, only untagged or only tagged".. what on earth?? the confusion was massive!. Correct me if wrong, but you can configure it so many ways that wouldn't make sense.
    Nowhere do you find the wording "Trunk" or "Access", which to me are like a standard.
    Now I have figured out most... somewhat... it's not leaving me confident.. I know, its not always easy when you learnt it one way, those who started with mikrotik might feel same about Cisco, or HP, etc. visa versa.
    Then had a whole other mystery issue where id loose access to the webgui, in SWOS, you can tick off which ports are trusted for managment, okay, I only want the dedicated RJ45 console port, and it was plugged directly into one network, on a access port on Cisco switch... but this was not enough, and I cannot explain, how or whats going on there. I haft to tick off my trunk ports, but its not comming directly from there, managment is not configured as on vlan.

    • @BattousaiHBr
      @BattousaiHBr 3 роки тому

      the switches have their limitations because they need yo work with the ASIC chip, but if you have one of their routers and run your VLANs from the CPU, i find it makes 100x more sense than other vendors because it's all setup just like you would on linux (since it runs on linux kernel).
      if you've ever done networking on linux before, there's no longer this contrived notion of trunking. just add the VLAN as an actual and dedicated virtual interface running inside the physical interface, create a bridge virtual interface, then assign the VLAN and an access port to the bridge. the elegance in this design is apparent when you want to do vlan stacking, just create a new VLAN inside another one, for however many layers you want, and you can add each VLAN to any different bridge.

  • @FinlayDaG33k
    @FinlayDaG33k 3 роки тому +4

    I own a CRS326-24G-2S+RM myself for two years now (using it as a router atm until I can afford one of their actual routers) and I love it quite a lot.
    It was really affordable, rarely has random issues and it has all the features I need + more.
    Only downside about it is that it's CPU is getting hammered severely when I use my full download speed (just 250mbit, nothing major) D:
    Well that and the MikroTik ecosystem (as in software) is kinda "meh"...
    Integration with other devices like APs is pretty loose :\

  • @Jon_Godfrey
    @Jon_Godfrey 3 роки тому +5

    Excellent review. Love the $ / performance of Mikrotik!!!

  • @pkvalsvik
    @pkvalsvik 3 роки тому +23

    Just admit it... You choose to review products that have the most complicated names 😂
    Great review, as always!!

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 роки тому +2

      Ha! Apparently that is the case.

    • @colinstu
      @colinstu 3 роки тому +6

      They're complicated but at least they're descriptive. I don't see how Cisco or HP's etc model names are any better. Like "Cisco 3750"... great, that could mean a lot of different things.

  • @youtubecommenter4069
    @youtubecommenter4069 3 роки тому +2

    Patrick; "You might think that I'm completely crazy and that's not necessarily incorrect", 9:33. Who else agrees with Patrick?

  • @colinstu
    @colinstu 3 роки тому +5

    New switch has a higher clocked CPU, so maybe that's why there's a heatsink. Max power consumption is the same between both generations however.

  • @satvisionsatvision
    @satvisionsatvision 3 роки тому +3

    You should do more Mikrotik router reviews, love the channel

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 роки тому +1

      We have a fairly decent set of MikroTik switch reviews now. Hopefully they come out with more models so we can.

  • @BattousaiHBr
    @BattousaiHBr 3 роки тому +1

    i think part of the reason they went ahead with this refresh is in preparation for RouterOS 7 (jokes aside, beta has been out for over a year now i think).
    their 300 series switches have newer ASICs that support a lot more features, one of which that is already enabled in the latest RouterOS 7 beta is L3 hardware offloading. this will effectively change these switches into extremely powerful routers and the only thing they wont be able to do is BGP at the edge (too many routes) or firewall (technically it does offload NAT but it looks quite limited). i don't think there are any other L3 switches in the market with this feature set and at this price point.

  • @kenzieduckmoo
    @kenzieduckmoo 3 роки тому +1

    I wish everything was like the mikrotik naming scheme. You can figure everything out by reading the name. CRS/CSS (routeros vs switchos) 326 (product name) 24G (24 1-gig) 2S+ (2 sfp+ ports) IN (Poe In) or RM (rack mount)

  • @okoeroo
    @okoeroo 3 роки тому +1

    I have this switch in my homelab. Very happy with it

  • @Airbag888
    @Airbag888 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks a ton for including power consumption

  • @noco-pf3vj
    @noco-pf3vj 3 роки тому +1

    It can load balancing and bandwidth manager, no competition, it is very cheap with a lot of function.

  • @qtenz
    @qtenz 3 роки тому +1

    Great video, just a heads up regarding the Packages/Firmware point
    On Mikrotik's it seems the installed "Packages" version can be different to the running/active "firmware" version.
    So, for example, you can be running Packages of 6.48.2 still with active Firmware 6.47.7
    Simply after every "Packages" update, via Winbox go into System -> RouterBOARD and click the UPGRADE button to update the "Firmware" to the latest version of which is included in the latest installed Packages version.
    Why the firmware isn't applied with the latest packages automagically, I have no idea.
    Cheers,
    Quenten

  • @kindanyume
    @kindanyume 3 роки тому +1

    external power adaptor is far superior due to the ease of service..
    yes a std power cord is handy and odds are most places have a spare but any real issue it NOT "user serviceable"
    However the external means even my grandmother could have been walked through a diag/swap the phone
    Notice mikrotik is being smart using the most common size barrel jack and its wired for wide input voltage range so many common wall warts can be good enough (The beauty of a simple inexpensive buck converter and autovoltage up/down conversion)
    So while i do like the std power cord used for so much PC world and others (even my moms kettle uses the same cord) the fact is their choice is the smarter one esp for a unit in this clsss
    no its not a simple cost issue
    its a serviceability issue not to mention with the poe option of having ac to dc internal is a potential waste and added complexity with no benefit,
    not to touch on worldwide grid types etc etc

  • @zactodd3144
    @zactodd3144 3 роки тому +1

    NGL, the RouterOS "Firmware" situation is an odd one. The package you get includes RouterOS software (for system) AND firmware (for hardware) in one package... As most do I guess.
    Upon reboot when the package is dropped onto the switch/Router/AP the system will install the latest Software to the device. After that is done, you must reboot to upgrade the firmware (and depending on your settings - if auto upgrade not selected - you must activate the upgrade prior to the reboot)
    Is odd, but the whole process takes about 2 mins for the system + 30 seconds for the firmware. Most Linux based switches I have worked with take about 5 mins just for the "one touch" upgrade, and any downtime is about the same if not longer in total.
    Use enough of them, it becomes a natural part of the process of a RouterOS upgrade.

  • @sagetechnology4913
    @sagetechnology4913 3 роки тому +1

    FINALLY, I own a css326 and the thing with a third of the space being empty sucked. the long rack ear is a much better solution, too bad they didn't include rack ears.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 роки тому +1

      The same is in the CRS326-24G-2S+RM. I am not sure why MikroTik did not just design these with the rack ears in the first place and standardize on a design.

  • @aetch77
    @aetch77 3 роки тому +1

    For a switch which comes with a non-standard console port I'm a little surprised an adaptor cable was not included.

  • @renardgrise
    @renardgrise 3 роки тому

    Also works for the ZP450 and ZP455 models. Thanks for the tip!

  • @Jerrec
    @Jerrec 3 роки тому

    After installing the firmware, you need to manually press "Upgrade" and then reboot. Then you have the latest version in "current" firmware. Reason: As long as this is not done, you can roll back easily, without reinstall the old version.

  • @eldoradoboy
    @eldoradoboy 3 роки тому +1

    every mikrotik product ive had with the LCD screen I ran into serious resource issues.. my first thing to do whan I buy any MT wit han LCD is turn it off and gain quite a bit of throughput

  • @harrisongilbert
    @harrisongilbert 3 роки тому +2

    Patrick, I think it would be really interesting if you would do reviews of some Cisco hardware. I feel like their networking hardware is really fascinating since it’s bleeding-edge data center gear and the golden standard but it seems to be so illustrious to the average non-data center networking person. The pricing isn’t very far off of many of the expensive servers you review.
    Just my two cents!

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 роки тому +2

      We did a 2U 4-node AMD EPYC-based Cisco UCS review www.servethehome.com/cisco-ucs-c4200-review-c125-m5-amd-epyc/
      The challenge is that Cisco tends to have lots of reorgs which makes it difficult to get reviews done.
      One of my first jobs in high school was working at a Cisco factory.

    • @harrisongilbert
      @harrisongilbert 3 роки тому +1

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo More of their networking I was referring to. Potentially a 24 or 48 port switch roundup of MicroTik vs Cisco Catalyst vs Arista vs some other enterprise brands to see what you get with the significantly higher price, or maybe looking at some of their neat core routers? Just some interesting things off the top of my head that you don’t typically see with online reviews.

  • @nonamesi
    @nonamesi 3 роки тому +1

    Regarding your comment about firmware version - there is a difference between RouterOS and firmware (RouterBOOT). Even though versioning is the same for both since some 6.xx release, they have completely different role. You probably shoud update firmware using the upgrade button or /system routerboard upgrade from CLI
    On a side note, RouterOS has some major bugs since 6.48 release, you might want to check the forum...

  • @shapelessed
    @shapelessed 3 роки тому +2

    The worst thing about Mikrotik's Winbox that I found is that doesn't like seeying other devises on the network if they're connected via, for example a cisco switch that was configured by DHCP...

  • @MoraFermi
    @MoraFermi 3 роки тому +2

    Very nice review! Speaking of faster-than-1GbE, can you do some review of what's available on the market in 8-16 ports of 2.5+ GbE?

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 роки тому

      There is some overt prodding for better options in this space later in the video and in Rohit's main site review.

  • @alphabanks
    @alphabanks 2 роки тому +1

    This was a great review I would like one of these to replace a 10 year old Dell Power Connect 2816. I currently use PFsense to perform routing so for me this would be used for routing between subnets.

  • @jeanmarcchartier6438
    @jeanmarcchartier6438 3 роки тому +1

    Hey Patrick, You do excellent reviews of these devices and they're literally second to none. But would you be able to speak more towards the support you get with these devices (or the lack thereof) and any pit falls you may encounter. As a person who is looking to buy these things for my home lab (and some of the things you talk about in my corporate environment) it would really be nice to know what we're stepping into if we ever do need support from these companies.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 роки тому +2

      We went into that specifically both in the video and in the main site review this time.

    • @jeanmarcchartier6438
      @jeanmarcchartier6438 3 роки тому

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo Thank you that is a very welcomed addition to your reviews.

  • @JasonLeaman
    @JasonLeaman 3 роки тому +2

    Can you do some videos of the new Aruba AIO stuff ?

  • @zenja42
    @zenja42 3 роки тому

    The intecators on the ports look nice, but I can't see them if the Switch is full and/or the device is mounted top of rack at 42/47u. So It have it's usecases...

  • @jackporteous
    @jackporteous 3 роки тому +12

    Definately enjoy your reviews but feel the 25 minute run time format is a bit on the long side. Generally I watch a video to get a summary quicker than an article. The information density is generally pretty sparse on this and the last few videos, especially compared to your earlier ones.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 роки тому +4

      I agree on this one. This video in straight review cut (without the CRS226) was closer to 18 minutes. Since Rohit's review on the main site focused a lot on the delta we left all of that content in. I think replacing the CRS226's in the field is one of, if not the biggest market for this model so we went with the cut leaving that in.
      Interesting on the summary side. Most folks tell me if they want fast content, they read/ skim the main site articles.

    • @tommihommi1
      @tommihommi1 3 роки тому +1

      I don't think there has ever been a video on this channel that was faster to watch than it would have been to skim the article

    • @jackporteous
      @jackporteous 3 роки тому

      @@tommihommi1 true, but i can do other stuff with the video on in the background

    • @ayrendraganas8686
      @ayrendraganas8686 3 роки тому

      @@jackporteous id recommend starting to whatch videos at 1.5-2x speed. with some practive you can make it to 2.5x, 3x and beyond (for those speeds you need to be in a browser and set the dpeed via the console there tho)!
      saves tons of time and can even make slow pace videos a lot more engaging

  • @chewylandlive
    @chewylandlive 3 роки тому

    I love this channel and my Microtik router (I got the smaller one) rocks!!!

  • @joealtona2532
    @joealtona2532 3 роки тому +1

    It would a killer switch if it had 4 SFP+ ports. Two ports? Hard to guess a use case imho.

    • @morosis82
      @morosis82 3 роки тому +2

      24 gigabit links, with 20gbit of uplinks. Not hard to see the use.
      They do have a version with 4 sfp+, which I might end up with if I get sick of my HP 5800, but the routing is generally slower vs the one I have.

  • @holycrap1986
    @holycrap1986 3 роки тому +1

    Not sure ServeTheHome audience is the proper one for this request, any interest in doing a review of some fs.com switches or current gen 10Gig switches? Looking for a quality ToR switch and, while I am a Cisco Nexus guy at heart, I want to make sure I'm not leaving $$$ on the table because of a badge on the switch.

  • @c123bthunderpig
    @c123bthunderpig 3 роки тому

    Your reviews are really great, very thourough. One question, By reviewing one individual piece or product, it is difficult to see it in a functioning environmrnt. Is it possible to show a fully configured system to get an idea on footprint and performance interface? Seeing the part reviewed "in place " would also give a better handle on total capability of what you are buying it for. Obviously this until is not going to support one computer.

  • @KuntalGhosh
    @KuntalGhosh Рік тому +1

    Can this switch be used as a router? Cus it has the full router os right? So i can just hook my wan up & setup it as a router & firewall?

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  Рік тому +1

      That is a, it *can* since it has RouterOS, but I probably would use one of the fanless mini PC's we have reviewed instead for the router side

  • @ArthursHD
    @ArthursHD 3 роки тому

    Edit: Three years later they still don't have a 2.5Gb version :(
    Why even have a case at all, Would prefer if the PCB would be held up by rack ears and heatsink. Even better if heatsink, rack ears can be used from previous generations and different products. So we end up with less waste :)
    Would prefer to order PCB without parts that I don't need. DC input is better for me, cause I can run it directly from off-grid solar.

  • @NincardeVideos
    @NincardeVideos 3 роки тому

    Thank you kindly for this video! I found it to be very helpful, as well as the article in the description.
    I help manage six 48 port HPE Aruba switches and one (outdated) 24 port HP switch onprem at work but only have wireless routers at home. How challenging is it to learn, become familiar, and troubleshoot MicroTik switches and routerOS in comparison to Aruba? My primary concern when when considering to purchase a MikroTik switch is possibly not having enough time to learn and become familiar with RouterOS and troubleshooting issues like SFP & DAC compatibility.

    • @laszu7137
      @laszu7137 2 роки тому

      If you understand networking already all you need to do is reference their wiki for what words mean in the GUI.

  • @pepeshopping
    @pepeshopping 3 роки тому +1

    Not surprised that most “pros” would not test the power supply output/voltage BEFORE deeming the device dead.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 роки тому +3

      When it failed, there were unhappy people at home wondering what was wrong. It would have taken longer to test/ find a new power adapter than just to install another switch that was on hand and get everyone back online. A dead switch/ PSU can put time pressure on a fix. We actually use that model a lot. If a hosting node fails, we just swap in a hot spare and then diagnose the failed node later.
      I do realize that is a luxury, but it is a nice one.

    • @jimporter
      @jimporter 3 роки тому

      @asdrubale bisanzio if swapping like for like I would have thought it would be obvious when you go to put in new switch and that didn’t light up that it was the power supply.

    • @jimporter
      @jimporter 3 роки тому

      @asdrubale bisanzio before using the “you are an idiot tone” I should point out that it was not obvious from what STH wrote that the two units (switch and PS) would always be treated as one and both swapped out. Having worked in production environments it has never ceased to amaze me of the idiotic decisions and actions made by experts, ie corporate laptop given to outsourced but onsite professionals to have new hard drive fitted only to have them introduce viruses onto the previously clean machine, others replacing faulty hardware with underpowered units (not like for like) because that is what was handy.

  • @devaindranit
    @devaindranit 9 місяців тому

    hi sir, I could use this for VLAN (ISP purpose)?

  • @pepeshopping
    @pepeshopping 3 роки тому +1

    They did the LEDs like that to make it as cheap as possible, and I do not like them like that.
    Have to wonder how cheap they went with other components.

  • @geogmz8277
    @geogmz8277 3 роки тому

    RouterOS Upgrade is devided in two you first upgrade packages.
    System > Packages it will automatically reboot if you choose to upgrade from the Internet as opposed to manually load the packages.
    Once the switch or router comes back ON you need to upgrade the Board Firmware.
    System > RouterBoard > Upgrade
    Is not going to reboot however for upgrade to complete you must reboot it.
    System > Reboot.
    Done whole process is like 3-5 mins..

  • @arekx
    @arekx 3 роки тому

    Weird, here someone reports that rack mount version is also very efficient and uses 7.8W in idle - forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=146624#p750135 . While you say it's 19ish. So which one is true idle consumption for CRS326-24G-2S+RM ?

  • @locusm
    @locusm 3 роки тому +1

    If these were the same price as Ubiquiti which would you choose?

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 роки тому +2

      That is hard. The USW-24 is $225 so around $40 more but is 2x SFP vs this with 2x SFP+. Even at $225 I would probably still prefer the MikroTik just because it is hard to have a 24-26 port switch with only 1GbE. The USW-Pro-24 has the dual SFP+ but is $399 or more than 2x the cost so there is a routing performance difference as well. The Ubiquiti also uses more power but has an internal power supply.
      To me, Ubiquiti does not have a switch in the same segment.

  • @ansible9340
    @ansible9340 3 роки тому +1

    Can we have some mikrotik router reviews?

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 роки тому +5

      We are working on that. Getting something that is decent in terms of a test setup has been a 9 month project and many thousands of dollars since we do not just want to do basic iperf3 for that. (We are using Cisco trex.) Hopefully Dmitrij will be done with the next revision soon.

  • @eldoradoboy
    @eldoradoboy 3 роки тому +1

    you never go that screen for firmware.. you go to system->packages and select your stream.. thats where you bhest check for firmware and not confuse others

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 роки тому

      That was more of the point to showing it. I wanted to show why it can be confusing.

    • @eldoradoboy
      @eldoradoboy 3 роки тому

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo no doubt RouterOS can be confusing for those who havent used it.. I guess im used to it i thinkl I built my first mikrotik back in 2002 or something liker that on a Soekris NET4801 board.. Been using MT in production environments ever since.. I do lock them down.. WinBox is a severe security hole so I turn the ports off and never use it. im running RouterOS beta 7 in my Mobile-office Bus (Mobile DEV lab) with an LTAP mini.. dual sims, Quectel EC25 modem.. RouterOS scripting is a Huge advantage over even the big-box stuff.. my scripots record Cell signal amnd noise.. and send it with GPS cooridinates to my NOC.. easy way to learn real-world where I have good coverage and not :) Hail to RouterOS!

  • @MisterRorschach90
    @MisterRorschach90 3 роки тому

    Would you recommend using a switch for a small network or just using direct connections? I kind of want to hook up 2.5g ethernet to all my stuff and build a nas. I have lost so much data over the course of my life. I lost the entire master to my old bands record. I’ve lost an 80,000 song library. Every digital picture I’ve ever taken that wasn’t uploaded to a social media platform still in existence today. Such a bummer. I kitted out an integrated pentium itx board with 3x4tb drives and a 1tb ssd. Hook up a 10gbe nic and stuff it inside a sff inwin case. Should be able to hook up to a cheap 2.5g switch and run 4 full speed connections right?
    Now if it were tb3/4? What do you think about thunderbolt nas?

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 роки тому +1

      I generally prefer switches. Direct attach is useful, but at some point the number of nodes you have increases and you need switches. The networking industry went through this many years ago, and switches are common today.

    • @MisterRorschach90
      @MisterRorschach90 3 роки тому

      @asdrubale bisanzio oh yes trust me, my history with data loss has nailed that in my skull. The raid is only for read speed and possible drive loss. I have a sff itx gaming pc for my main rig and the fastest ethernet connection I could use is 2.5 without getting a thunderbolt motherboard (though I am honestly considering the z590i vision for it’s all white and dual tb4 features). With 10gbe in the nas I could have at minimum 2.5 going to all my devices, or I could have 10gbe over tb4. However that would also require a nicer htpc motherboard or a tb3/additional 10gbe nic for each device. Starts to get expensive. Have you by chance used thunderbolt nas very much? Do you like it? I know the recording studio I grew up going to uses it. Let’s you connect directly like usb or run over the network. And the new fiber cables aren’t much more expensive unless you need massive lengths.

    • @MisterRorschach90
      @MisterRorschach90 3 роки тому

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo any recommendations for a good but cheap switch that has 10gbe in and 4x2.5 out? Also since thunderbolt 3/4 is 40gbit could you daisy chain 4x10gbe adapters to connect 4 devices with full 10gbit speeds?

  • @MrBobbybrady
    @MrBobbybrady 3 роки тому

    Where is the link you said you were going to link to the guy that reviewed all of the switches? Thanks.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 роки тому +1

      Rohit did the STH main site review, I just did the video to add some video content. Link is in the description.

    • @MrBobbybrady
      @MrBobbybrady 3 роки тому +1

      @@ServeTheHomeVideoThanks

  • @pepeshopping
    @pepeshopping 3 роки тому

    Wow so much for an “expert”…
    Recommending internal power supplies when they are EXACTLY the same as the external ones!!!
    It is cheaper to use external ones as those are STANDARD and made in the millions, where your internal PS may or may not be off the shelf, but even if it is, it is still more expensive to produce as it is not as common!

  • @guydurand6270
    @guydurand6270 3 роки тому

    The screen on my crs125 helped me reconfigure my switch when the command line tool in Linux wouldn't work. It allowed me to initially assign an IP address. So I did find that little LCD quite helpful.
    See: wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:LCD_TouchScreen

  • @pbrigham
    @pbrigham 3 роки тому

    If this guys could make a switch like this but with four 2.5G nics and four more POE+ and the rest 16 ports at it is, even for 300 USD it will be a world champ selling device.

    • @pbrigham
      @pbrigham 3 роки тому

      @@technicalthug we are on 1GB nics for 20 years, even the 100 EURs motherboards come with 2.5 nics, wifi6 is now faster than 1GB, no doubt that even a home/ lab switch with just a few ports with 2.5 will be a winner.

    • @jimporter
      @jimporter 3 роки тому

      @@technicalthug but doesn’t that thinking go against one of the points of this video that when this the original version of this switch hit the market there was nothing like it and now it has competitors and as you describe it “a market staple”. Someone has to be first. Isn’t being competitive also about spotting gaps that no-one else is exploiting.

  • @psycl0ptic
    @psycl0ptic 3 роки тому

    do they have a version of this with POE?

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 роки тому +1

      Not exactly. This is perhaps the closest: ua-cam.com/video/XPzy7XOfp7M/v-deo.html

  • @SERVICE_KARELIA
    @SERVICE_KARELIA 5 місяців тому

    1. Нужно охлаждение;
    2. Мощность процесса для малых нагрузок.

  • @studioviper3016
    @studioviper3016 3 роки тому +1

    Wish all those ports were 2.5g or 5g... 1gbe seems kinda pointless these days

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 роки тому

      That is basically the reason for calling out that we want a 24x 2.5GbE switch.

  • @enderst81
    @enderst81 3 роки тому +2

    If only it had 4 SFP+ :(

  • @MarkDeSouza78
    @MarkDeSouza78 3 роки тому +1

    So this is basically a new chassis for the CR326-24G-2S+RM that STH reviewed two years ago... given all they have done is change the the sheet metal, hardly worth a 25min review...

  • @mxmsound
    @mxmsound Рік тому

    Subtitles missing 😞

  • @just-a-waffle
    @just-a-waffle 3 роки тому +1

    I'm on the fence upgrading 10 port sg300 to something like this, if mikrotik came out with a 2.5GbE switch, I'd buy in a heartbeat

  • @ohheyalan123
    @ohheyalan123 2 роки тому

    The CIA loves the firmware in MicroTik

  • @navithefairy
    @navithefairy 3 роки тому +1

    Mikrotik makes great products with great features, but they need to work on the look and feel of their management GUI.

  • @rubengarcia573
    @rubengarcia573 3 роки тому

    Hello Patrick, I'm reviewing your new switching videos for a personal need and I really think you should have to revisit your ua-cam.com/video/nDiUuJ472yE/v-deo.html&ab_channel=ServeTheHome video, because at that time, while in the website article there is mentions to the multigigabit ports, the video itself only explains the ports are 10gb plus combo ports and I really think there's not a lot of 10gb sfp+ combination that also includes this multigigabit connection. In fact I really think that one is better than this for the intended use of the desk (if a newer version is quieter and have lower power consumption). Thanks a lot for your work, and if you have a better option than the CRS312-4C+8XG-RM for a homelab environment please let us all know.

  • @ryohnosuker
    @ryohnosuker Рік тому

    One of the worst manegeable switch I owned. TX drops everywhere even with super low traffic.

  • @TheTobyBrovst
    @TheTobyBrovst 3 роки тому +1

    GZ-STH-YT-48K-SUB

  • @cd1168
    @cd1168 3 роки тому

    I wish you talked about capabilities. You just babble on and on